Possibly the most information on Waterproof Running Jackets everyone needs this time of year..... Great well packed video Loyd I'm already on Harrier and SaySKY (But there goes Christmas dinner)
Thanks Stephen that's very kind, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 The Harrier jacket is actually really good value so you might still be able to have a Christmas dinner as well 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏
Excellent information. Here in Western Canada, we don’t get enough rain usually to need one, but with races requiring 10K or 15K min, this is very helpful. Thanks Loyd. Stay DRY!!!
I just ordered the exmoore rainproof jacket, it is my very first rain jacket i have ever purchased. I was very impressed with your review and look forward to it arriving and wearing it!
That's great to hear G Watson! Really glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I haven't tried the Rab Phantom Cairn. Rab make some great kit though so I'm sure it's impressive! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Loyd, another great buying guide. From my experience I can recommend the WAA Ultra 3.0 waterproof jacket; effective, lightweight and very packable, and for something heavier and less breathable, but really bulletproof the Columbia OutDry range will always keep you dry and warm. Definitely looking out for the new Harrier jacket and packs with eager anticipation, cheers :)
Cheers David I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I've never actually tried any of the WAA kit I'll have to take a look? Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Loyd! I've been waiting for this and to buy a waterproof jacket. Thanks for the tips, would definitely check out the Harrier as soon as it's out.
Thanks Naim, really glad you found the buying guide helpful 😊 The Harrier jacket is definitely worth a look at that price! Harrier make really we thought out kit at affordable prices 😊 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏
Great content as always! I’m looking forward to the harrier review, I have their 5L vest and they have some of the best customer service I’ve come across.
Cheers Ellie, really glad you enjoyed the video. The Harrier jacket is a very impressive jacket for the price and hopefully it will be available soon. You are so right about their customer service, amazing! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks James 👍 The Ronhill jacket is an awesome piece of kit that's for sure! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏 Hope you're fit and well!
Thanks Stuart I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Both really good Jackets, the Buff jacket is a bit lighter and more packable. Where as the Harrier Exmoor would offer you more protection and breathability but it is a bit heavier and bulkier 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
You do make some nice kit Borut. I've used a lot of their calf guards, socks over the years and I love their Free Belt Pro 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great level of insight on the hydrostatic test Loyd, I had often wondered what the test compromised of. There will be lots of well educated jacket shopping on the back of this video
A great guide Loyd with excellent info, will definitely check out the Harrier, Sasky & Ron Hill jackets…. Never know I may get tempted away from my Inov-8!! Lol … Christmas is coming after all 😜
Thanks very much, I'm really glad you thought so 👍 Inov-8 make a pretty good jacket but if you're anything like me then one jacket is never enough 😂 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great information that even I could understand lot of reviews give jargon I can't understand . Waiting for harrier jacket I'm on mailing list think you get good value for money off these guys and you just confirmed it with this review
Thanks Martin that's really appreciated 👍 The Harrier kit is such good value I don't think you'll be disappointed. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Excellent vid. I’ve never really understood a lot of the marketing jargon around water proofing, but I think I do now… sort of. I think Harrier may be the way forward for me on this one.
Thanks Adrian I'm glad the video was helpful 😊 The Harrier kit is really well thought out and super affordable! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Lloyd, this is the video I've been waiting for. Need to take the plunge and buy a jacket but it's a total mine field. That harrier jacket looks great so I think I will wait for that to be available. Have been looking at a decathlon own brand one but harrier one is only £20 more for 15,000 instead of 10,000.
That's great I'm glad you found it helpful. Some of the decathlon kit is actually pretty good but I'm not sure it would be up to the standard of the Harrier jacket 👍 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏😊
I've got the decathlon waterproof and really don't like it. It's not let water through but it's bulky and makes me feel like I'm in a sauna. I bought it last year as I didn't have the money to properly replace my old waterproof but wish I had spent more on something better. I only use it for dog walking now and am in the market for a new one.
@@kerstinpalmer9632 I tend to find breathability is always the problem with the cheaper waterproof jackets unfortunately Kerstin 😔 Sorry you haven't got on with your jacket but thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Hi loyd, I think the information you share is second before none and is immensely appreciated. However I have been trying to get my hands on the shakedry by ronhill and it turns out it has been discontinued ant the closest thing to it is the Tech Gore-Tex Mercurial Jacket. It would be great if you could do a review on this one to compare it to the shakedry.
Great video Lloyd; not sure how I missed it last year! Any specific recommendation for a jacket to wear for CCC this year? I know you've run both UTMB and TDS, so figure you will have an opinion.
Great video as ever Loyd, my HigherState jacket was £45 and like a bin liner 😂 my inov8 Stormshell was 3 times the price but definitely worth every penny 👌🏻
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Yeap any waterproof jacket that under £50 is going to struggle when it comes to breathability! 🤔 I think you do get what you pay for in the running waterproof jacket world. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure good enough for short winter runs to keep the heat in 😂😂 The inov8 was definitely worth the extra cost, it’s my pleasure Loyd, your content is always top notch 👌🏻
Very helpful video! I wish more companies would list their actual water resistance and breath ability numbers. Any specific recommendations for jackets suitable for running in warm humid rainy weather?
I'm really glad you thought so, thanks for watching 😊 Hot and humid conditions are pretty tough when it comes to waterproof running jackets. Obviously you want to look for jacket with a high breathability rating but even then it's tricky. Some times in those conditions you're better off without a jacket. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Good summary Loyd, IMO you covered all the main elements (boom boom!). I have two w/p jackets, both from OMM. I have the Halo 2 and the Kamelika. They both function very well but now I've come to realise that they lack some features that I would definitely look for in my next jackets, namely: Press studs (as per your Ron Hill example) I can't emphasis enough what a great feature this is (and would be if I had it!). Stowaway hood would also be high on the list. I'm considering if it's possible to glue some velcro dots on mine, so that I can roll the hood up. Packing in its own pouch is very useful. Lots of YT demos will show how small a jacket can be squashed down but as soon as you let it go, it springs back. I utilise the elastic adjusting straps for this but you have to roll it a certain way. Which is fine at home but a pain mid trail. A bit of colour/reflective detailing doesn't go amiss either. I'd be interested to see a w/p trouser review, lots of winter races have that as mandatory kit.
The press stud feature is really good Ian, all jackets should have it! Having the ability to pack the hood away is a feature were seeing less and less of nowadays. For me it's not essential, I just tuck the hood in the jacket when I'm not using it. I like the sound of the velcro idea though 😊 I'll have a think about waterproof trousers. I have hot a pair put I think I've only ever used them once and that was in the AoA in some pretty bad conditions 🏃♂️ Thanks for watching and supporting as always Ian 🙏
Thx for great info just love the Harrier jacket and so much cheaper than the Ronhill but how does the size compare to say the Gore R7 GTX Shakedry Trail Hooded Jacket as they seem to be quit small in size. Thx
Great guide, thanks! I'll have to check if harrier have found a way of shipping to the EU, Brexit was very much in the way the last time you made me aware of the brand 😟
Thanks Arjan, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I think Brexit is still causing problems unfortunately 😔 I'm sure it'll get sorted out soon and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Top video once more, I have similar experiences (good and not so good). I use a gore shakedry but mostly the all weather from ON which is 10'000 but comes with lots airflow... it is perfect for 2-3 hours... or may more... but both quite an investment... 🙉
Thanks Roland 😊 The Shakedry fabric is pretty impressive when it comes to protection and breathability! I haven't used any On apparel yet, I'd be interested to try some out 🤔 Thanks for watching mate 🙏
Hi Loyd, another great review. Just a quick question after watching, I'm entered into the ARC 50 and was planning on wearing the Scott RC WP jacket. Now the specifications of the jacket state that it matches the requirements of Skyrunner World Series and Ultra Trail World Tour, waterproof to 20,000 mm, taped seams, etc, but is this jacket going to meet ARC requirements and in your opinion would it be a safe bet for the event? I've run in the jacket in varying conditions and it seems to hold up well. Many thanks, Tony
Thanks Tony, that's really appreciated 😊 Yeap the Scott jacket will definitely pass kit checkbat the Arc 50. A waterproof rating of 20,000 is pretty good so it should hold up to winter conditions just fine! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel. see you at the AoA hopefully 😊
It's amazing value for money Stuart. Packed full of features and a good level of protection from the elements. Thanks for your continued support of the channel 🙏😊
I have a Arcteryx shake dry running jacket that I really love, but I’m also concerned about the durability of jacket when it comes to wearing a pack on top of it. What is you experience when it comes to shake dry durability?
Thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed the video. I've had my jacket for around a year now. I've used it several times now with a pack and it looks fine. I haven't done any super long efforts with a pack but I have done quite a few 3 to 4 hours runs and it's holding up well. I think some of the original Shakedry was a bit sketchy but I'm sure they've improved durability over the years 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks Anonimowy 👍 Really glad you enjoyed the video and I've just up graded to a Coros Apex Pro. I'll be doing a full in-depth review soon. Thanks for watching 🙏
Excellent coverage of problems associated with a weather-proof jacket. But you didn't cover the technical issue of breathability, the MVRT rating. And just a side note regarding hoods - the majority of hoods merely cover up to the chin or a bit above depending on your neck and head length as well as whether or not you're wearing headwear. I make heat reflective, breathable, wind and water resistant/proof anoraks. My hoods cover just above the tip of my nose or adjusted lower. When above the tip of my noise, the warm moist "air" exiting my nostrils warms my face as well eliminates cold wind, rain and snow penetrating my face. So why don't manufacturers of quality jackets, anoraks and cagoules make hoods that perform in all weather? A fabric covering such as a balaclava allows wind, rain and snow to penetrate it when worn to protect the face. A properly designed jacket hood for example should protect the face.
I always wondered what the differences were between 2L, 2.5L, and 3L jackets were. The Harrier jacket sounds nice! Wonder if they'll sell in the US? Great job on this video!!!
Thanks Chad, I'm glad you found the video helpful 😊 I'm not sure you'll be able to get the Harrier Exmoor Jacket in the US? They will only be available from the Harrier website and I don't know if they ship to America? 🤔 Thanks for watching and I hope you're fit and well 🙏
Hey Lloyd, great video as always....quick question. I have been eyeing up the Ronhill Tech Gore Tex jacket but i noticed that on their website they say that it was not designed to work with a pack and the material could be damaged. I heard you say you have done a fair few hours with the jacket on. I was wondering if you noticed any issues? Thanks!
Hi Wesley It says that on all the brands websites that make a Gore-Tex Shakedry Waterproof jacket. I think it's just to cover there backs if something does happen 🤔 I've had my Ronhill jacket for about a year now and I've used it several times with a pack on. I haven't done any long races in the jacket but a few of those runs I had it on for 4 - 5hrs and the Jacket looks fine, no signs of wear at all 👍 I'm sure eventually it might have an effect on the jacket if you run it with a pack all the time but it has to be retty bad weather wise for me to even put a jacket on 😊 Hope this helps Wesley and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
Is using a hard shell goretex pro advisable for a 100miler max weight of 450g, packable and highly breathable ( with the new goretex pro) , examples like RAB Muztag or acryetex beta ar
I personally wouldn't use one because they are pretty heavy and bulky to carry. They can also run quite warm when your moving at a good pace. It really depends on the time of year the race is and what the weather conditions are going to be? I'd always go for a run specific waterproof jacket 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Could you easily roll the Harrier up and stuff it in the side pocket of the Salomon 12 like you demonstrated in your Arc of Attrition packing video? Also would you rate it higher than the Bonnati or Inov8 Race Ultra?
You could definitely roll up the Harrier jacket and put it in the big stuff pocket on the Advance Skin 12 Rich. The biggest difference between the Salomon and Inov-8 jackets compared to the Harrier jacket is weight. Both the Inov-8 and Salomon jackets are lighter and they pack down smaller 👍 Hope this helps Rich 😊
Hi Tommy Sorry I've not run in the North Face Futurelight jacket so I'm not sure? It's definitely going to be 10,000 or more on the Hydrostatic rating 👍 Thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Hi Loyd ...i watched the intro 10 times with my daughter who asked me who were moaning like this 🤣🤣...for my experience with the waterproof jacket ...what i just know is that i m allways wetter inside than outside when i am wearing it 🤣....great buying guide 🙏👍😉🇨🇵
She'll be traumatised for life! 😂 Some jackets definitely breath a lot better than others and it can make a massive difference what you wear underneath the jacket as well 👍 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel as always 🙏😊
Hi, Little concerned that the Shakedry might be a little too delicate, but the Harrier might be a little heavy. Any suggestions for a middle ground between the two? Heavy sweater....so needs to be as breathable as possible. Thanks!
Hi James I've had my Ronhill Shakedry nearly 2 years now and it's still going strong, no issues with durability! The Harrier is definitely a lot heavier and less breathable. If it's breathability your after you won't beat the Shakedry jacket, the most breathable waterproof jacket I've ever run in. I'd also recommend watching our review on the Uglow apparel because the jacket I tested was really good 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Just watched the review. Looks like a good alternative. Any concerns with using either if using a running pack? Seem to be mixed feeling on the Ronhill regarding this.
I am sure that as Loyd’s channel grows he will begin to review US products. For me, it is actually refreshing to hear reviews of British & European products (which I might be able to buy). We all want to find the best running gear & I am sure Loyd will bring it to us, no matter where it is made. I also applaud all attempts to use recycled materials where possible. Happy running 😀
Surely that's good then Tommy because I'm introducing you to new brands that you haven't heard of before 😊 Thanks for watching and I'll see what I can do 🙏
Heh Loyd, serious review of 👏. I'm I the market for running jacket. I have one from decathlon but not breathable. I like to keep warm on runs and wound usually wear under armour, 1/2 zip long sleeve top and my jacket......what would u recommend for use all yr round even during summer if raining. I dont mind layering if needs b during winter........ in west of ireland alot of rain all yr round really ? Tks...Gerry
Thanks Gary, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Unfortunately breathability is the hardest thing to achieve in a waterproof jacket and you tend to find the cheaper the jacket the less breathable you'll get 👍 I'd always recommend wearing a long sleeve base layer under your jacket but something a bit more technical than your Under armour top would definitely help. Maybe have a look at the SAYSKY mesh base layer or their Merino base layers are brilliant as well 👍 You do have to pay for breathability unfortunately, the Ronhill Shakedry Gore-Tex and the Raidlight Ultralight 2.0 MP jackets are two of the most breathable waterproof jackets I've ever run in but they do both cost over £230! so not cheap 🤔 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
The Exmoor isn't out until mid/end of November get this video is 11 mo the old. What's the craic there? Also how has it got so many positive reviews if it still hasn't been released?
This video was made last year before the Exmoor Jacket was released. The jacket has been released andHarrier sold out of the them and they are waiting for new stock I think 👍 So that's why there's lots of positive reviews, because lots of people bought them! Thanks for watching Kaka 🙏
I know Rich, it isn't cheap but it's a great jacket! 👌 You have to treat yourself now and again, especially at Christmas! Thanks for watching and supporting as always 🙏😊
Do you personally where your waterproof under or over your vest? Under, I'm worried about rubbing off the DWR layer and over, even with adjustments, I'm worried it will be too baggy. The Harrier looks like a tent unfortunately
I pretty much always wear my jacket under my vest Rich 😊 There has been a few times when it's been a quick heavy shower that I've put it on over but not very often. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
I haven't tried any Soar brand before. Their kit always looks great but they do come across as being a bit elitest and they don't seem to have a lot of stock available 🤔
So confused with the word water proof! Are they really good in heavy rain? Looking for a strong waterproof light jacket that doesn't block wind or cold.
The jackets are definitely waterproof up to a certain degree. The fabric is a waterproof with a water repellent treatment and all the seems will be taped to stop water getting through. However all waterproof jackets will also be windproof, you don't want the wind getting through 👍 Hope this helps Kurapika, thanks for watching 🙏
I've been eyeing up the Montane Minimus Stretch Ultra, but having seen that Harrier jacket and heard the price, I may hold on a bit. It looks really good and is about half the price... come on, what's the catch?! Looking at all their gear in fact... it all looks fantastic, yet is unsettling cheap.
Hey Tom, we just don't sell through distributors or retailers. Or have physical premises. So everything is direct to customers and online which cuts out a huge chunk of costs. The whole company is run by 2.5 people - myself (Kate) my partner Matt and Mary who does our social and comms. Because of that we have the margins to make the items less expensive for people. There is no catch, or anything underhand behind the scenes. I use freelancers for design, photography, accounts etc. So again we only pay for exactly what we need to keep costs down and pass on savings. Happy to answer any questions :)
@@harrier_trail_running Thanks for the reply! That all makes sense, and I didn't for one minute think there was anything underhand here. It's just that I've always liked to invest in good kit, even if it means paying a few quid more, and the concept of paying half the price for something just as good (or maybe better?) takes a bit of sinking in! Your whole range looks fantastic though. I'll definitely be trying some bits out.
@@TomLarkin_ thank you! I do think I could explain better about our company model and why we are cheaper. I'll have a think and get it on the website because I think it can be almost a barrier when people aren't used to it. Thanks a lot for checking us out and these ideas :)
There you go Tom, straight from the horses mouth! (I not calling you a horse Kate 😂) Harrier have a very different business model and that's how they keep they products so affordable. Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@harrier_trail_running 100% that is worth doing! I am preording your jacket on the 26th but even though it looks great I had concerns about price. I was willing to take the gamble. However if it's as good as it seems , once word gets out those concerns should be allayed. In the meantime it would be worth explaining company structure and distribution. Finally, when you have the final version I would re-film your youtube showcase video and delete the old one. Only because the arms are long and some , like myself initially, may miss the blurb explaining it's a prototype. Good luck and all the best!
@@derekrossiter5047 I'm not a lover of knee straps if I'm honest Derek. I think it's a much better idea to get to the bottom of the problem. I'd going and see a good sports physio and see what they recommend 👍
I went inside Harrier's site to check the very promising jacket and was disappointed to see that due to issues caused by Brexit they are not currently offering shipping to Europe. That's politics interfering with Trail running...🙄
I know sorry :( we tried to continue just after Jan but customers were being handed massive import charges, or we would get them and surprise ones further down the line. We will start again when things are more settled and transparent for both us and our customers :)
It is a real shame Dimitris 😔 Hopefully things will settle down soon and we can get back to a bit of normality. Awesome customer service as always Kate 👌 Thanks for watching the channel Dimitris it's appreciated 🙏
I know! It's hard to do a waterproof jacket buying guide without saying it lots of times! 😂 Sorry if it was a bit repetitive, thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure haha I just assumed you were doing it intentionally to game the UA-cam algorithm ! The more times u say a term the higher u move up in the rankings for those key words.
Possibly the most information on Waterproof Running Jackets everyone needs this time of year..... Great well packed video Loyd I'm already on Harrier and SaySKY (But there goes Christmas dinner)
Thanks Stephen that's very kind, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
The Harrier jacket is actually really good value so you might still be able to have a Christmas dinner as well 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏
I’ve got the Ronhill shake dry jacket. One of my best purchases! Worth every penny 👌👌
It's a great jacket Christina 👌
Really glad you're enjoying yours and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
Excellent information. Here in Western Canada, we don’t get enough rain usually to need one, but with races requiring 10K or 15K min, this is very helpful. Thanks Loyd. Stay DRY!!!
Glad you found the buying guide helpful Dave. Thanks for your continued support of the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Loyd, love the the trick bits.Just in time for me as I'm in the lookout for a new jacket. 👍👍
Thanks Mark, really glad you enjoyed the video and the transitions 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I just ordered the exmoore rainproof jacket, it is my very first rain jacket i have ever purchased. I was very impressed with your review and look forward to it arriving and wearing it!
It just arrived today! Love it, looking forward to some rain to go for a run!
@@oneanotherrunner9390it still good?
This is best guide to waterproof running jackets I've watched. Very helpful. Thanks R4A.
That's great to hear G Watson! Really glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I love the Rab Phantom for weight, waterproofing, & breathability. Unbeatable.
I haven't tried the Rab Phantom Cairn. Rab make some great kit though so I'm sure it's impressive! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Love the video. Thanks for explaining the tech stuff. Nice and clear content. Thanks
No problem Roland, I'm glad you found the video helpful 😊
Thanks for your continued support of the channel 🙏
amazing video ❤️
all I needed in my life atm 😀
thank you so much
That's great Ivan 👍
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video and you found it helpful, thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks Loyd, another great buying guide. From my experience I can recommend the WAA Ultra 3.0 waterproof jacket; effective, lightweight and very packable, and for something heavier and less breathable, but really bulletproof the Columbia OutDry range will always keep you dry and warm. Definitely looking out for the new Harrier jacket and packs with eager anticipation, cheers :)
Cheers David I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I've never actually tried any of the WAA kit I'll have to take a look? Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks for your answer on saysky. Keep running mate. take care
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed the video 🙏😊
Great review Loyd! I've been waiting for this and to buy a waterproof jacket. Thanks for the tips, would definitely check out the Harrier as soon as it's out.
Thanks Naim, really glad you found the buying guide helpful 😊
The Harrier jacket is definitely worth a look at that price! Harrier make really we thought out kit at affordable prices 😊
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏
Great content as always! I’m looking forward to the harrier review, I have their 5L vest and they have some of the best customer service I’ve come across.
Cheers Ellie, really glad you enjoyed the video. The Harrier jacket is a very impressive jacket for the price and hopefully it will be available soon. You are so right about their customer service, amazing! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
Great guide as usual 👍🏻🏃♂️
Thanks Mark, really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great guide, many thanks
Awesome Ben, I'm really glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great info as per usual… still loving my Ronhill shake dry goretex. Brilliant jacket
Thanks James 👍
The Ronhill jacket is an awesome piece of kit that's for sure! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Hope you're fit and well!
Can't wait to see your Exmoor and kinder reviews!
Should be along soon Anna 😊
Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Gonna have to get either the harrier or buff jacket great spec and look good, another class video 👌🏻
Thanks Stuart I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Both really good Jackets, the Buff jacket is a bit lighter and more packable. Where as the Harrier Exmoor would offer you more protection and breathability but it is a bit heavier and bulkier 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
I'm a huge fan of Compressport gear! Expensive yes, but well worth it!
You do make some nice kit Borut. I've used a lot of their calf guards, socks over the years and I love their Free Belt Pro 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the informations!!! Great video!!!!
No worries Alexandre 👍
Really glad you found it helpful and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Very useful video. Thank you!
I'm glad the video was useful and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Great level of insight on the hydrostatic test Loyd, I had often wondered what the test compromised of. There will be lots of well educated jacket shopping on the back of this video
Cheers Dean that's very kind 😊
Thanks for all your continued support of the channel 🙏
Just discovered your channel Loyd, great content and new sub
A great guide Loyd with excellent info, will definitely check out the Harrier, Sasky & Ron Hill jackets…. Never know I may get tempted away from my Inov-8!! Lol … Christmas is coming after all 😜
Thanks very much, I'm really glad you thought so 👍
Inov-8 make a pretty good jacket but if you're anything like me then one jacket is never enough 😂
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great information that even I could understand lot of reviews give jargon I can't understand . Waiting for harrier jacket I'm on mailing list think you get good value for money off these guys and you just confirmed it with this review
Thanks Martin that's really appreciated 👍
The Harrier kit is such good value I don't think you'll be disappointed. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Excellent vid. I’ve never really understood a lot of the marketing jargon around water proofing, but I think I do now… sort of. I think Harrier may be the way forward for me on this one.
Thanks Adrian I'm glad the video was helpful 😊
The Harrier kit is really well thought out and super affordable! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Lloyd, this is the video I've been waiting for. Need to take the plunge and buy a jacket but it's a total mine field. That harrier jacket looks great so I think I will wait for that to be available. Have been looking at a decathlon own brand one but harrier one is only £20 more for 15,000 instead of 10,000.
That's great I'm glad you found it helpful. Some of the decathlon kit is actually pretty good but I'm not sure it would be up to the standard of the Harrier jacket 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏😊
I've got the decathlon waterproof and really don't like it. It's not let water through but it's bulky and makes me feel like I'm in a sauna. I bought it last year as I didn't have the money to properly replace my old waterproof but wish I had spent more on something better. I only use it for dog walking now and am in the market for a new one.
@@kerstinpalmer9632 I tend to find breathability is always the problem with the cheaper waterproof jackets unfortunately Kerstin 😔
Sorry you haven't got on with your jacket but thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Great video. I just want Ronhill to offer their shakedry in some bright colours! Red, orange or yellow would be great!
Hi loyd, I think the information you share is second before none and is immensely appreciated. However I have been trying to get my hands on the shakedry by ronhill and it turns out it has been discontinued ant the closest thing to it is the Tech Gore-Tex Mercurial Jacket. It would be great if you could do a review on this one to compare it to the shakedry.
Great video Lloyd; not sure how I missed it last year! Any specific recommendation for a jacket to wear for CCC this year? I know you've run both UTMB and TDS, so figure you will have an opinion.
Great video as ever Loyd, my HigherState jacket was £45 and like a bin liner 😂 my inov8 Stormshell was 3 times the price but definitely worth every penny 👌🏻
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Yeap any waterproof jacket that under £50 is going to struggle when it comes to breathability! 🤔
I think you do get what you pay for in the running waterproof jacket world. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure good enough for short winter runs to keep the heat in 😂😂 The inov8 was definitely worth the extra cost, it’s my pleasure Loyd, your content is always top notch 👌🏻
@@soupyruns9709 You're very kind 🙏
Very helpful video! I wish more companies would list their actual water resistance and breath ability numbers. Any specific recommendations for jackets suitable for running in warm humid rainy weather?
I'm really glad you thought so, thanks for watching 😊
Hot and humid conditions are pretty tough when it comes to waterproof running jackets. Obviously you want to look for jacket with a high breathability rating but even then it's tricky. Some times in those conditions you're better off without a jacket. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Good summary Loyd, IMO you covered all the main elements (boom boom!). I have two w/p jackets, both from OMM. I have the Halo 2 and the Kamelika. They both function very well but now I've come to realise that they lack some features that I would definitely look for in my next jackets, namely:
Press studs (as per your Ron Hill example) I can't emphasis enough what a great feature this is (and would be if I had it!).
Stowaway hood would also be high on the list. I'm considering if it's possible to glue some velcro dots on mine, so that I can roll the hood up.
Packing in its own pouch is very useful. Lots of YT demos will show how small a jacket can be squashed down but as soon as you let it go, it springs back. I utilise the elastic adjusting straps for this but you have to roll it a certain way. Which is fine at home but a pain mid trail.
A bit of colour/reflective detailing doesn't go amiss either.
I'd be interested to see a w/p trouser review, lots of winter races have that as mandatory kit.
Second the w/p trousers from a mandatory kit perspective
The press stud feature is really good Ian, all jackets should have it! Having the ability to pack the hood away is a feature were seeing less and less of nowadays. For me it's not essential, I just tuck the hood in the jacket when I'm not using it. I like the sound of the velcro idea though 😊
I'll have a think about waterproof trousers. I have hot a pair put I think I've only ever used them once and that was in the AoA in some pretty bad conditions 🏃♂️
Thanks for watching and supporting as always Ian 🙏
Thx for great info just love the Harrier jacket and so much cheaper than the Ronhill but how does the size compare to say the Gore R7 GTX Shakedry Trail Hooded Jacket as they seem to be quit small in size. Thx
Great video. Thank you for the intel! At 10:23, what was that blue bag you were packing your mandatory items in?
Glad you enjoyed the video Paul 😊
It was just a 3L dry bag, I tend to use when for my mandatory kit so it stays nice and dry. Thanks for watching 🙏
Great guide, thanks! I'll have to check if harrier have found a way of shipping to the EU, Brexit was very much in the way the last time you made me aware of the brand 😟
Thanks Arjan, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I think Brexit is still causing problems unfortunately 😔
I'm sure it'll get sorted out soon and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Top video once more, I have similar experiences (good and not so good). I use a gore shakedry but mostly the all weather from ON which is 10'000 but comes with lots airflow... it is perfect for 2-3 hours... or may more... but both quite an investment... 🙉
Thanks Roland 😊
The Shakedry fabric is pretty impressive when it comes to protection and breathability! I haven't used any On apparel yet, I'd be interested to try some out 🤔
Thanks for watching mate 🙏
Thanks Loyd. Have you ever happened to try the premium running kit from Soar?
No worries Bilal 👍
I have contacted them a couple of times but they've never got back to me unfortunately 😕
Hi Loyd, another great review. Just a quick question after watching, I'm entered into the ARC 50 and was planning on wearing the Scott RC WP jacket. Now the specifications of the jacket state that it matches the requirements of Skyrunner World Series and Ultra Trail World Tour, waterproof to 20,000 mm, taped seams, etc, but is this jacket going to meet ARC requirements and in your opinion would it be a safe bet for the event? I've run in the jacket in varying conditions and it seems to hold up well.
Many thanks, Tony
Thanks Tony, that's really appreciated 😊
Yeap the Scott jacket will definitely pass kit checkbat the Arc 50. A waterproof rating of 20,000 is pretty good so it should hold up to winter conditions just fine! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel. see you at the AoA hopefully 😊
Would love an update to this Loyd now they have stopped making shakedry
Have to say, that Harrier jacket looks like it could be an absolute bargain. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. 👍
It's amazing value for money Stuart. Packed full of features and a good level of protection from the elements. Thanks for your continued support of the channel 🙏😊
Can't wait for your review!
Great review again. How have you found the wear on the shake dry? I heard the waterproof can wear off if you wear a pack over it.
I have a Arcteryx shake dry running jacket that I really love, but I’m also concerned about the durability of jacket when it comes to wearing a pack on top of it. What is you experience when it comes to shake dry durability?
Thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed the video. I've had my jacket for around a year now. I've used it several times now with a pack and it looks fine. I haven't done any super long efforts with a pack but I have done quite a few 3 to 4 hours runs and it's holding up well. I think some of the original Shakedry was a bit sketchy but I'm sure they've improved durability over the years 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Great video. I am curious what COROS will be tested 🙃. Greetings form Poland
Thanks Anonimowy 👍
Really glad you enjoyed the video and I've just up graded to a Coros Apex Pro. I'll be doing a full in-depth review soon. Thanks for watching 🙏
Excellent coverage of problems associated with a weather-proof jacket. But you didn't cover the technical issue of breathability, the MVRT rating. And just a side note regarding hoods - the majority of hoods merely cover up to the chin or a bit above depending on your neck and head length as well as whether or not you're wearing headwear. I make heat reflective, breathable, wind and water resistant/proof anoraks. My hoods cover just above the tip of my nose or adjusted lower. When above the tip of my noise, the warm moist "air" exiting my nostrils warms my face as well eliminates cold wind, rain and snow penetrating my face. So why don't manufacturers of quality jackets, anoraks and cagoules make hoods that perform in all weather? A fabric covering such as a balaclava allows wind, rain and snow to penetrate it when worn to protect the face. A properly designed jacket hood for example should protect the face.
I always wondered what the differences were between 2L, 2.5L, and 3L jackets were. The Harrier jacket sounds nice! Wonder if they'll sell in the US? Great job on this video!!!
Thanks Chad, I'm glad you found the video helpful 😊
I'm not sure you'll be able to get the Harrier Exmoor Jacket in the US? They will only be available from the Harrier website and I don't know if they ship to America? 🤔
Thanks for watching and I hope you're fit and well 🙏
Will let you know, i just ordered one.
Shipping was $39, order placed 2-28-22, now i wait for it to arrive…
It arrived today. Looks fantastic! Shipping time wasn’t too bad, arrived relatively quick, 15 days. Now i’m actually looking forward to the rain!
Hey Lloyd, great video as always....quick question. I have been eyeing up the Ronhill Tech Gore Tex jacket but i noticed that on their website they say that it was not designed to work with a pack and the material could be damaged. I heard you say you have done a fair few hours with the jacket on. I was wondering if you noticed any issues? Thanks!
Hi Wesley
It says that on all the brands websites that make a Gore-Tex Shakedry Waterproof jacket. I think it's just to cover there backs if something does happen 🤔
I've had my Ronhill jacket for about a year now and I've used it several times with a pack on. I haven't done any long races in the jacket but a few of those runs I had it on for 4 - 5hrs and the Jacket looks fine, no signs of wear at all 👍
I'm sure eventually it might have an effect on the jacket if you run it with a pack all the time but it has to be retty bad weather wise for me to even put a jacket on 😊
Hope this helps Wesley and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thanks Lloyd. That is a great help!
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No problem Wesley 👍
Is using a hard shell goretex pro advisable for a 100miler max weight of 450g, packable and highly breathable ( with the new goretex pro) , examples like RAB Muztag or acryetex beta ar
I personally wouldn't use one because they are pretty heavy and bulky to carry. They can also run quite warm when your moving at a good pace. It really depends on the time of year the race is and what the weather conditions are going to be? I'd always go for a run specific waterproof jacket 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Could you easily roll the Harrier up and stuff it in the side pocket of the Salomon 12 like you demonstrated in your Arc of Attrition packing video?
Also would you rate it higher than the Bonnati or Inov8 Race Ultra?
You could definitely roll up the Harrier jacket and put it in the big stuff pocket on the Advance Skin 12 Rich. The biggest difference between the Salomon and Inov-8 jackets compared to the Harrier jacket is weight. Both the Inov-8 and Salomon jackets are lighter and they pack down smaller 👍
Hope this helps Rich 😊
@@Run4Adventure Very helpful, cheers!
North face Men's Flight Series FUTURELIGHT™ Packable Jacket ( can you tell me the hydro static rating for this jacket please ? ) Thank you in advance
Hi Tommy
Sorry I've not run in the North Face Futurelight jacket so I'm not sure? It's definitely going to be 10,000 or more on the Hydrostatic rating 👍
Thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Hi Loyd ...i watched the intro 10 times with my daughter who asked me who were moaning like this 🤣🤣...for my experience with the waterproof jacket ...what i just know is that i m allways wetter inside than outside when i am wearing it 🤣....great buying guide 🙏👍😉🇨🇵
She'll be traumatised for life! 😂
Some jackets definitely breath a lot better than others and it can make a massive difference what you wear underneath the jacket as well 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel as always 🙏😊
Hi,
Little concerned that the Shakedry might be a little too delicate, but the Harrier might be a little heavy. Any suggestions for a middle ground between the two?
Heavy sweater....so needs to be as breathable as possible.
Thanks!
Hi James
I've had my Ronhill Shakedry nearly 2 years now and it's still going strong, no issues with durability! The Harrier is definitely a lot heavier and less breathable. If it's breathability your after you won't beat the Shakedry jacket, the most breathable waterproof jacket I've ever run in. I'd also recommend watching our review on the Uglow apparel because the jacket I tested was really good 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thank you!
@@Run4Adventure Just watched the review. Looks like a good alternative.
Any concerns with using either if using a running pack? Seem to be mixed feeling on the Ronhill regarding this.
@@nosamsemaj I've used mine with my Salomon Advance Skin 12 vest lots of times and it's been fine Jason 👍
Give us some American brands to consider. I am not familiar with the brands that you mentioned. Thank you so much for your help.
I am sure that as Loyd’s channel grows he will begin to review US products. For me, it is actually refreshing to hear reviews of British & European products (which I might be able to buy). We all want to find the best running gear & I am sure Loyd will bring it to us, no matter where it is made. I also applaud all attempts to use recycled materials where possible. Happy running 😀
Surely that's good then Tommy because I'm introducing you to new brands that you haven't heard of before 😊
Thanks for watching and I'll see what I can do 🙏
Did you find some good waterproof jacket for running in the US that you can recommend me?
Heh Loyd, serious review of 👏. I'm I the market for running jacket. I have one from decathlon but not breathable. I like to keep warm on runs and wound usually wear under armour, 1/2 zip long sleeve top and my jacket......what would u recommend for use all yr round even during summer if raining. I dont mind layering if needs b during winter........ in west of ireland alot of rain all yr round really ? Tks...Gerry
Thanks Gary, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Unfortunately breathability is the hardest thing to achieve in a waterproof jacket and you tend to find the cheaper the jacket the less breathable you'll get 👍
I'd always recommend wearing a long sleeve base layer under your jacket but something a bit more technical than your Under armour top would definitely help. Maybe have a look at the SAYSKY mesh base layer or their Merino base layers are brilliant as well 👍
You do have to pay for breathability unfortunately, the Ronhill Shakedry Gore-Tex and the Raidlight Ultralight 2.0 MP jackets are two of the most breathable waterproof jackets I've ever run in but they do both cost over £230! so not cheap 🤔
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Tks Loyd for your early reply. Those shakedry jackets u refer to etc do u need to layer up a good bit underneath during winter.
@@gerrylee5405 No not really, I just wear a long sleeve base layer and that's it 👍
The Exmoor isn't out until mid/end of November get this video is 11 mo the old. What's the craic there? Also how has it got so many positive reviews if it still hasn't been released?
This video was made last year before the Exmoor Jacket was released. The jacket has been released andHarrier sold out of the them and they are waiting for new stock I think 👍
So that's why there's lots of positive reviews, because lots of people bought them! Thanks for watching Kaka 🙏
5:02 Oh man I want that jacket sooo much but I really cant justify 235 quid.
Although Xmas IS around the corner....
I know Rich, it isn't cheap but it's a great jacket! 👌
You have to treat yourself now and again, especially at Christmas! Thanks for watching and supporting as always 🙏😊
Do you personally where your waterproof under or over your vest?
Under, I'm worried about rubbing off the DWR layer and over, even with adjustments, I'm worried it will be too baggy.
The Harrier looks like a tent unfortunately
I pretty much always wear my jacket under my vest Rich 😊
There has been a few times when it's been a quick heavy shower that I've put it on over but not very often. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Cheers Loyd
Have you tried any of Soar Running's gear? Everything looks great but I barely see any product reviews.
I haven't tried any Soar brand before.
Their kit always looks great but they do come across as being a bit elitest and they don't seem to have a lot of stock available 🤔
@@Run4Adventure Similar to Satisfy in that both are style with function oriented and both use proprietary fabrics.
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Satisfy make Soar look cheap! I look at Satisfy as the Gucci of the running scene, it's definitely all about the look 😂😂😂
Wouldn't running jackets be great for hiking as well?
Is Columbia's waterproof jackets a water resistant and not fully water proof?
I don't know, I've never used a Columbia jacket before 🤔
So confused with the word water proof! Are they really good in heavy rain?
Looking for a strong waterproof light jacket that doesn't block wind or cold.
The jackets are definitely waterproof up to a certain degree. The fabric is a waterproof with a water repellent treatment and all the seems will be taped to stop water getting through. However all waterproof jackets will also be windproof, you don't want the wind getting through 👍
Hope this helps Kurapika, thanks for watching 🙏
I've been eyeing up the Montane Minimus Stretch Ultra, but having seen that Harrier jacket and heard the price, I may hold on a bit. It looks really good and is about half the price... come on, what's the catch?! Looking at all their gear in fact... it all looks fantastic, yet is unsettling cheap.
Hey Tom, we just don't sell through distributors or retailers. Or have physical premises. So everything is direct to customers and online which cuts out a huge chunk of costs. The whole company is run by 2.5 people - myself (Kate) my partner Matt and Mary who does our social and comms. Because of that we have the margins to make the items less expensive for people. There is no catch, or anything underhand behind the scenes. I use freelancers for design, photography, accounts etc. So again we only pay for exactly what we need to keep costs down and pass on savings. Happy to answer any questions :)
@@harrier_trail_running Thanks for the reply! That all makes sense, and I didn't for one minute think there was anything underhand here. It's just that I've always liked to invest in good kit, even if it means paying a few quid more, and the concept of paying half the price for something just as good (or maybe better?) takes a bit of sinking in! Your whole range looks fantastic though. I'll definitely be trying some bits out.
@@TomLarkin_ thank you! I do think I could explain better about our company model and why we are cheaper. I'll have a think and get it on the website because I think it can be almost a barrier when people aren't used to it. Thanks a lot for checking us out and these ideas :)
There you go Tom, straight from the horses mouth! (I not calling you a horse Kate 😂) Harrier have a very different business model and that's how they keep they products so affordable. Thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@harrier_trail_running 100% that is worth doing!
I am preording your jacket on the 26th but even though it looks great I had concerns about price. I was willing to take the gamble.
However if it's as good as it seems , once word gets out those concerns should be allayed. In the meantime it would be worth explaining company structure and distribution.
Finally, when you have the final version I would re-film your youtube showcase video and delete the old one. Only because the arms are long and some , like myself initially, may miss the blurb explaining it's a prototype.
Good luck and all the best!
Most informative jacket review ever seen keep up the good work
I'm glad you thought so Derek! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure hi any ideas on knee straps etc for patella tendonitis just can't shake this thanks all
@@derekrossiter5047 I'm not a lover of knee straps if I'm honest Derek. I think it's a much better idea to get to the bottom of the problem. I'd going and see a good sports physio and see what they recommend 👍
Please add chapters next time! Would be supwr helpful to direct to the section i wanted to refer back to when i rewatch!
We put chapters on all our videos now Micheal 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏
I went inside Harrier's site to check the very promising jacket and was disappointed to see that due to issues caused by Brexit they are not currently offering shipping to Europe. That's politics interfering with Trail running...🙄
I know sorry :( we tried to continue just after Jan but customers were being handed massive import charges, or we would get them and surprise ones further down the line. We will start again when things are more settled and transparent for both us and our customers :)
@@harrier_trail_running thank you for your honest and immediate response.
It is a real shame Dimitris 😔
Hopefully things will settle down soon and we can get back to a bit of normality. Awesome customer service as always Kate 👌
Thanks for watching the channel Dimitris it's appreciated 🙏
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Gore are stopping making shake dry fabric
I know, I saw that! 😔
It's a shame because the Gore-Tex Shakedry Ronhill jacket is brilliant. Thanks for watching 🙏
New drinking game: drink upon mention of “running waterproof jacket”
I know! It's hard to do a waterproof jacket buying guide without saying it lots of times! 😂
Sorry if it was a bit repetitive, thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure haha I just assumed you were doing it intentionally to game the UA-cam algorithm ! The more times u say a term the higher u move up in the rankings for those key words.
Pun not excused. That was a Dad level joke.
You can't beat a good Dad joke Kevin, I've got lots more where that came from! 😉
Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure I’ll watching for them sir!
skip to 2:45 to avoid a lot of waffle
Great comment 👍
All this thing you want to buy you need is money bro😢.
Money makes the world go round unfortunately Ajit 😕
@@Run4Adventure right sir.
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Your special effects make you closer to a magician now/ lol lol / Well, I enjoy watching your review as always. Thank you.
Thanks Apiyut, your kind words are definitely appreciated. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊