This engine is awesome, but it doesn't last very long before needing to be rebuilt. I'm sure they can solve some of those problems and improve it. The genius is really in it's simplicity and the promise is in it's power & torque to weight ratio. Very cool indeed.
@AWAGKnives , So how long (hours), have You supposedly found , these engines to last ? What was the map setting during the supposed testing process that You supposedly witnessed? What are their supposed problem areas? What , supposedly, has to be rebuilt after You found it to be worn out? How did you supposedly check for wear?
@@michaelmartinez1345 This comment reads like somebody that is clueless pretending that they know a lot. Even if he did give you that information, you'd have no fucking clue what to do with it.
Note, not a single word on emissions. If it's not clean burning its applications are severely limited so automotive, motorcycle, and marine use may be limited.
@goldcountryruss7035, just as I already mentioned , of the variable factors of how the emissions that this engine design will produce, depends on what type of fuel, that will be used to power it , of which in this engine design, could be several different types of fuel... I feel that natural gas would work extremely well with this engine... And the U.S. happens to have huge amounts of CNG in the Eastern states.... When mixed with known readily available gass's that can act as catalytists during the combustion cycles, it could influence a complete fuel burn and drastically reduce emissions, add efficiency and increase power, thus reducing the amount of fuel needed to do the work...
I loved the rotory motors we would welcome them back with open arms. Another one outboard marine engines just fit a heat exchange on it .that would be interesting to see ?
@bullykuldo6233 , The outboard boat engines are genuine works of art... I love all of them... Especially the older 2-strokes. They would need a thermostat and a water pump that is driven directly off of the engine, instead of being mounted inside of the lower prop drive unit... They already have liquid cooling jackets to possibly support this fish - swimming out of the water ... Plenty of power to drive the wheels, or a generator... But they tend to create a fair amount of emissions, because they are usually running so cool... And to bring the operating temperature of them to a higher level could possibly create new problems, because of the necessary clearances being lost .. These fish , need to be kept in the water...
Power to weight ratio is nice, the military will buy them just because of that, but for any commercial, particulaly on road application what really matters, apart from durability, are emissions and fuel economy. Those are the points where the rotary engine failed. Bad emissions as well as bad fuel economy.
How much does the 70 hp turbo version weigh and at what rpm does it produce that power? And what are the fuel consumption in liters per hour vs power and RPM?
@Goldcountryruss7035, The emissions (or lack thereof) that this engine will produce, will probably be one of it's major selling points... It will probably run very well on a variety of alternative fuels, and the issues of high emissions that were generated by the Wankel engines, have largely been solved with this design, mainly because of vastly improved SEALING of the 3 combustion chambers it has, as compared to the poor sealing of the single combustion chamber each rotor had on Wankel type engines... The power numbers show that much, 4.0-7.5 H.P. for a single rotor prototype machine displacing 210 c.c.'s of air... From what I have heard about these, they also run very smooth...
that wont work you need lots of compression for a diesel motor and that dont have it unless you try to make a jet engine out of it and usint 500 times more fuel
@jacktheripper-hoax , It was originally designed as a spark ignition engine... So , do you have information of what the OEM compression ratio is? It appears that the OEM compression ratio could be raised fairly easily by making the quench dome contain a slightly lower volume... That would raise the compression ratio...But why make it a diesel? That might give it a slightly higher torque rating , but at the cost of much greater engine stress And Diesel fuel is another petrolium product, which is what we are trying to get away from for energy creation.. .. A gas turbine engine is a completely different design that accelerates a much larger volume of air than any type of a reciprocating internal combustion engine is capable of doing for comparative reaction thrust when using a prop. So what is the BMEP and BSFC of the 210cc Liquid Piston engine, while set at cruise power? You mentioned that it would take 500 times more fuel than a gas turbine engine creating the same amount of power... How did you arrive at that number?
@@michaelmartinez1345 " It was originally designed as a spark ignition engine..." No it was not. Do your homework before making a fool out of yourself.
@@The_Conservative_Latino Mazda used the basic design that Mr. Felix Wankel invented in 1919, when he was just 17 years old... An absolutely brilliant individual he was... Mazda made it work very well... In fact, it was Mazda that won the 1991 Lemans race in a 787B racecar with a 4 rotor Wankel engine... It literrally left the competing cars in the dust in that race... None of the other cars should have even been racing on that track.... They were SLAUGHTERED by the Mazda 787B's in that race.. The following year (1992) The Wankel engines were banned by the governing body (ACO) of those races... To spare the competition a repeat performance of the same embarassment of being waxed by the previously underestimated competitor, Mazda... The Wankel was an ingenious design, that the Japanese people were able to bring to the public to enjoy.... Now, this improved design called the 'Fluid Piston' engine was re-designed to eliminate the inherent problems that were associated with the original Wankel engines.... It was made better , by improving the efficiency, power, reliability and lowering the emissions.... The next step would enable it to burn alternative fuels.... This would greatly help the problems of runaway pricing of petrolium energy products, by presenting the practical use of competing alternative fuels and other forms of energy...
So when can I expect one to be available to replace the 1150 pound 5.9 Cummins engine in my Dodge pickup? It wouldn't have to be very big, but would need to be geared down before input to the transmission so that it's output speed would be a good match for my gearing. I could put a lot of other things where the huge engine currently takes up space that would not be needed for the new engine. It might even be profitable to put in a much smaller one to operate the alternator and hydraulic systems of the truck. That would be very cool. I could park and run the generator to power my ham radios while at an event such as Field Day or Jamboree on the Air or Parks on the air. That would be great fun. And with the 35 gallon fuel tank it should extend the range of my pickup to maybe twice what it is now, 600 miles if I drive no faster than 70 so 1200 miles before refueling... Woo HOO!!!
@@milwaukeegregg Your point is a valid one.... The electric motor depends on readily available electrical current, and for vehicles, Large amounts of it ... Storing the electrical energy in batteries is easier said than done, and when the batteries start to wear out, the performance and range of electric vehicles and equipment is greatly reduced.... They have to be charged regularly when not being used which requires a very large powerplant to supply readily available large quantities of electrical power, they are expen$ive and tend to be extremely heavy.... They are best when relatively short distances are traveled on level ground in moderate temperatures and dry weather... I can't tell you how many times I have seen electric vehicles stranded in rainstorms and trying to travel up into the mountains, or in the middle of the deserts on dirt roads, nowhere close to any kind of cell phone reception... One of the ways vehicles with electric motors could become practical, is if another source of electric power is generated, besides a ton (or more) of storage batteries are onboard the vehicle... And it is being done with alternative sources of stored energy and ways that energy can be converted into large amounts of electrical power.... So, at this time , much of the type of equipment like this in it's research & development stages, and progress along with new discoveries are being made with it... The Liquid piston engine could be one such candidate, to help create an onboard lightweight , powerful & smooth source of mechanical power that could operate on alternative fuels , to power an electrical generator which could power an electric traction motor or send the mechanical power directly to the driven wheels... The options to use alternative energy sources, now become possible with equipment like this...
@@wacio There was a time, when cars had engines that started with a crank powered by hand... Several motorcycles and lawn equipment are currently started with hand and leg powered levers and pull-ropes... Not every engine needs an electric starter motor...
@Clintvosloo7694 Somewhat similar to a Wankel type, but with several significant differences... What is one of the very advantageous things about this design versus reciprocating engines is the power to weight ratio, and it's far less complicated. When comparing it to a Wankel, one of the several advantages it has is the absence of sealing issues, when the rotor pass's by the spark plug port... The Liquid piston engine has a fixed position combustion chamber and the spark plug port is NOT located on or anywhere near the sealing surfaces of the rotor or the rotor chamber sealing walls... The Wankel type has apex seals located at the 3 tips of the rotor , that travel across both spark plug ports, which causes a significant compression and power loss, and a case of somewhat dirty/carbon ridden exhaust emissions, inherent heating and lubrication issues, and fairly rapid wear of the rotor apex seals because of consistently passing over both openings of the spark plug ports that are necessary with that design..... The liquid piston engine can also be smaller and lighter because of these and several other design changes... Like 3 active combustion chambers per rotor chamber, instead of just 1 active combustion for the Wankel.... The Liquid Piston engine will Probably be less expen$ive to manufacture than several other types of engines as well, because of it's light weight and inherent simplicity ...... Like so many things, the simple things are often the compilation of many years of learning and research.... This Liquid Piston engine appears to be one such design... Simpler, Lighter, More Powerful, Better.....
@@nin1ten1do The changes and differences between this Liquid Piston Engine and the Wankel, are Probably several times more significant , meaningful, and useful than Pong, compared to the most advanced gaming devices available.. These machines actually do things that are necessary for our daily routines, and are far more useful & necessary than devices built strictly for entertaining those who are suffering from boredom ..
Time will tell, but I predict failure. You can't make a quality piston ring equivalent in a rotary motor design. Diesel usually requires high compression cylinders and that requires good rings. Square things don't survive high heat & cooling was a lesson learned by the pot belly stove people. But here is a thought for you. Using a swinging door style piston on both sides of a waste veggie oil burner in a Stirling type motor I could power my house as it heats my house and hot water, while cooking my large stew pot using gravity to do all the work. No pumps, no filters, no tech, no cost, no sh*t. Of course the Peltier/Seebeck effect electrical generation between the cold and hot water sides of the riser is optional. Yep, you heard it here first. Well that's the spiel anyway. I invented, built, & used the burner for 10 years, but never invented/install/used the Stirling motor design. But a swing door type would be very large pistons equal to about 4 square feet of piston top & that's a WOW. Even though Stirling isn't big power output per cubic inch, massive inches adds up to big power 4free. With a door on one side going out the same time the other side does, they counter balance each other. It's a heat difference engine so a cooling side could be installed on the outside of cylinder & the valve between inside/outside can be at the hinge. That would preheat my cold water tank also. The cylinder looking down is a 2 slice pizza pie shape. An outside arm from the hinge pushes on connecting rod to crank where the 90 degree valve arm or second piston door is attached, and the valve is just a vertical door also, & it's arm comes off it's hinge also. Any form of piston rings can be real sloppy, loose fitting, low friction. I give my Stirling motor design to the world, anybody who wants to make it and sell it, but not own it, cuz it's my intellectual property always. A big thanks to Oliver J. Loveit my power mechanics teacher & 2 doors per Sterling side may be required. Also, in the process of inventing a controllable veggie burner, I made a veggie burner out of a 3 gallon propane tank than ran like the WW2 V1 BUZZ BOMB plane pulse motor at a very powerful high rpm, but it had no moving parts. Any way, good luck to you guys on your rotary diesel.
The research started that long ago... Certain things take a long time to research and develop... Engine R&D has always been challenging, especially when such radically different designs are created from anything that is out in everyday use, at this time... People said much the same thing about powered planes that were beginning to become developed back about 125 years ago... It would take far too long to begin to tell you of the advancements in aviation and space exploration during the last 125 years...
@@danhard8440 I don't even want to begin guessing your age Amigo. Age is just a number as far as I'm concerned... Felix Wankel came up with a preliminary design of this engine when he was 17 years old, He was a Genious.... Joe Biden is going to be 81 years old in 8 days, and he is having trouble, figuring out how to tie his shoe laces.... Age is just a reference point, of when we were born, NOT necessarily an automatic assumption of wisdom or health...
@@michaelmartinez1345 ya i agree on all that and defiantly the Biden one🤣 my point was if there was really that much potential company's would be throwing money at it so that tells me there is a bigger problem that is not specified in the clip
@@danhard8440 If that company hasn't gone public yet (stock market), nobody can just "throw money at it" as you suggested... Unless the 'investors' would like to see the gardener of that place, instantly become rich (nice, end of the year bonus!) ... Besides, there is already a good sized client , for these products that you might have already heard of: The U.S. Department of Defence...
It is heavier than Wankel of corresponding power, not much more efficient, and uses 3 times more injectors and spark plugs. Very hard to stack in more powerful multi-rotor configurations. Mazda, having all the required know-how and technology is totally uninterested in this engine.
Insane because it does work. This is the "liquid piston" engine which was invented a couple years ago. It's basically an inverted rotary engine. So, it's nothing super new is but it's power to weight ratio is really all that's cool about it.
@akbarshoed and lukekolodziej9631 1) It does work, and dyno tests have already confirmed the 4.0-7.5 h.p. this very light and simple 210c.c. displacement (0.21 Litre) prototype engine design has achieved... 2) There are major differences between the Wankel and this design. One of several improvements made with this design is the much better method of SEALING the vacuum, compression and combustion EVENTS when this engine is operating... Several other things are inherently better as well... A complete re-design of the Wankel engine... The Wankel was Good, but this is so much better , in so many ways...
@@akbarshoed You Tube has it... Do a search, at the top of the comments/notifications/ replies page. First click the magnifying glass at the upper R/H side of that page to make the search bar appear. Then, enter what You want to search in the (word /phrase) search bar . In this case , enter 'Liquid Piston video'. Then press the L/H mouse clicker button while the cursor is atop of the magnifying glass symbol in the upper R/H corner in the top of that page, to activate the video search function.. Several videos of the Liquid Piston engine will appear on that video blog page... Choose the one that You want to watch, then maybe another one, or two.. Now, the time has come, to Do Your homework assignment, and studies, before presenting Your findings report to the board of directors (us), that You're going to be presenting it to... In this way, you can present your efforts of valid reliable information to the various people who are curious of this subject.. You possably could eventually be regarded as a 'Man in the loop'... Good info. hunting Amigo... Tally Ho!!!
I don't know much about technics but it sounds promissing. Less weight, space and consumption: the chassis should follow. Our ego likes big cars in 2023 but our bodies don't need suv's! Listen to the needs of our planet > make small cars with modest and nice characters. We have the knowledge already to do so. Make it possible to use our cars as personal powerplants. Japanese carmakers can make this happen.
PThe military has contracts with the company to make the motors for power generators, I've seen this used in go,karts and it is really impressive. I have been watching this company for a few years and I too said the same thing originally but now they have signed multi million dollar defense contracts I doubt they will be going anywhere anytime soon.
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 I watched that video. It was a hybrid go cart. It just needs to be bigger and I’d like to see some stats, horsepower and fuel efficiency when ran on pump gas. For now it is just a science experiment which is cool sure. Good for generators too maybe. Reliability is the big factor it if they can pull it off then I’d love to see it. I’m already a big fan of the wankle rotary.
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526and theredwedge9446, Those DOD contracts will enable them (Fluid Piston) to re-invest that money into more research & development of larger, more viable designs... Ones that can effectively be used to power full sized vehicles, using alternative sources of fuels / energy... That type of re-investment could likely grow that company very rapidly, as the similar types of funding brought several American companies and their vendors out of the Red and into the Black ...
@user-jo2yr9of8s- Not necessarily is the world going to be "taken over" by electric powered only vehicles... The vast majority of electric vehicles are using large groupings of batteries to store the massive amounts of electrical energy, to make a normal road trip, not far from a known charging station... That is proving to be very ineffective... Ok for golf courses , factories, apartment complex's, etc. that don't need to travel far from a charging station in their 800 pound vehicles, that travel on paved level ground... Not so good for long distances, mountains, rainy weather, headwinds, soft dirt roads... That is where vehicles with some gusto and extended range are going to be much more reliable... This Liquid Piston engine design could provide a smooth, efficient, lightweight source of mechanical power, that could possibly be shafted into a drivetrane, or power a relatively lightweight electric generator, to charge less expen$ive batteries that are smaller & lighter, than what the all electric battery powered vehicles have... A hybrid... The thing that makes this engine different, and a good candidate for a hybrid power source, is it's capability for it to burn various alternative fuels, and it's lightweight/ air-cooled design , extreme simplicity (2-moving parts) and it's very high power to weight ratio... Couple this engine to an efficient - relatively lightweight electrical generator, and You've got a WINNER to run a hybrid set-up!!!
No current , Har har, battery or fuel cell has the power density of diesel fuel. Military wants one fuel for everything it uses, Small HP diesels suck. If they can produce an engine that was governed down to 3600rpm, they would conquer the portable generator mkt
Where is the multi-rotary version? Do they plan to produce any for automobiles? I hate EVs! They didn't think them through. They are dangerously explosive and pollution causing via sourcing the lithium for replacing and disposal of old batteries. They still require electricity which still requires powerplants. Also, who can afford them?! Hydrogen fuel for the win, and the XTS rotary engine can burn it!
@RedRider76 , That would be like saying the Ford Model 'T' engine is literally the same as a modern inline 4-cylinder , DOHC, VVT,, electronically timed and controlled COP ignition, electronically controlled turbo-charging , electronically controlled variable flow-path intake manifolds , electronically controlled intake throttles and fuel injection timing/quantity controls, electronically controlled engine cooling system air circulation fans on the radiators.... . This 'Fluid Piston' engine, is Vastly different than a Wankel, and with only 2 moving parts per rotor case assembly. Several of the inherent problems that the Wankell engines always had, but could not get rid of, were effectively addressed with this complete re-design... Like the old Ford Model 'T' cars, people are now starting to really appreciate simple designs... The 'Fluid Piston' engines are great performers, with extreme simplicity, light weight, reliability, smoothness , are compact sized , quite efficient and very powerful...
This engine is awesome, but it doesn't last very long before needing to be rebuilt. I'm sure they can solve some of those problems and improve it. The genius is really in it's simplicity and the promise is in it's power & torque to weight ratio. Very cool indeed.
@AWAGKnives , So how long (hours), have You supposedly found , these engines to last ? What was the map setting during the supposed testing process that You supposedly witnessed? What are their supposed problem areas? What , supposedly, has to be rebuilt after You found it to be worn out? How did you supposedly check for wear?
@@michaelmartinez1345 This comment reads like somebody that is clueless pretending that they know a lot.
Even if he did give you that information, you'd have no fucking clue what to do with it.
Allegedly @@TheLairyLemur
Note, not a single word on emissions. If it's not clean burning its applications are severely limited so automotive, motorcycle, and marine use may be limited.
@goldcountryruss7035, just as I already mentioned , of the variable factors of how the emissions that this engine design will produce, depends on what type of fuel, that will be used to power it , of which in this engine design, could be several different types of fuel... I feel that natural gas would work extremely well with this engine... And the U.S. happens to have huge amounts of CNG in the Eastern states.... When mixed with known readily available gass's that can act as catalytists during the combustion cycles, it could influence a complete fuel burn and drastically reduce emissions, add efficiency and increase power, thus reducing the amount of fuel needed to do the work...
I loved the rotory motors we would welcome them back with open arms. Another one outboard marine engines just fit a heat exchange on it .that would be interesting to see ?
@bullykuldo6233 , The outboard boat engines are genuine works of art... I love all of them... Especially the older 2-strokes. They would need a thermostat and a water pump that is driven directly off of the engine, instead of being mounted inside of the lower prop drive unit... They already have liquid cooling jackets to possibly support this fish - swimming out of the water ... Plenty of power to drive the wheels, or a generator... But they tend to create a fair amount of emissions, because they are usually running so cool... And to bring the operating temperature of them to a higher level could possibly create new problems, because of the necessary clearances being lost .. These fish , need to be kept in the water...
Instead of a balancing weight, add more rotors.
Power to weight ratio is nice, the military will buy them just because of that, but for any commercial, particulaly on road application what really matters, apart from durability, are emissions and fuel economy. Those are the points where the rotary engine failed. Bad emissions as well as bad fuel economy.
How much does the 70 hp turbo version weigh and at what
rpm does it produce that power? And what are the fuel consumption in liters per hour vs power and RPM?
LOOKS SUPERB, LETS SEE THÉ NEXT STEP WITH THÉ MILITAIRY
@Goldcountryruss7035, The emissions (or lack thereof) that this engine will produce, will probably be one of it's major selling points... It will probably run very well on a variety of alternative fuels, and the issues of high emissions that were generated by the Wankel engines, have largely been solved with this design, mainly because of vastly improved SEALING of the 3 combustion chambers it has, as compared to the poor sealing of the single combustion chamber each rotor had on Wankel type engines... The power numbers show that much, 4.0-7.5 H.P. for a single rotor prototype machine displacing 210 c.c.'s of air... From what I have heard about these, they also run very smooth...
Very cool!!!
Master piece
very good explanation of how it differs from wankel.
i'm very interested. i wish you had expressed mpg and maintainance costs
I want 5 of these liquor engines for my home on the water, yes house boat
If this engine can be easily removed from the vehicle as a serviceable part it would allow inexpensive engine overhaul/replacement?
Not if any US auto manufacturers get their hands on it. They'll place it behind 10 to 15 other components that need to be removed first.
I want a few of these
When can I buy one?
that wont work
you need lots of compression for a diesel motor and that dont have it
unless you try to make a jet engine out of it
and usint 500 times more fuel
@jacktheripper-hoax , It was originally designed as a spark ignition engine... So , do you have information of what the OEM compression ratio is? It appears that the OEM compression ratio could be raised fairly easily by making the quench dome contain a slightly lower volume... That would raise the compression ratio...But why make it a diesel? That might give it a slightly higher torque rating , but at the cost of much greater engine stress And Diesel fuel is another petrolium product, which is what we are trying to get away from for energy creation.. ..
A gas turbine engine is a completely different design that accelerates a much larger volume of air than any type of a reciprocating internal combustion engine is capable of doing for comparative reaction thrust when using a prop. So what is the BMEP and BSFC of the 210cc Liquid Piston engine, while set at cruise power? You mentioned that it would take 500 times more fuel than a gas turbine engine creating the same amount of power... How did you arrive at that number?
@@michaelmartinez1345 " It was originally designed as a spark ignition engine..." No it was not. Do your homework before making a fool out of yourself.
Where's the production? Until there's actual availability, it's a pie in the sky.
Combined with a uniwheel is my interest.
Why??? Its best as a range extender, power generator
Can it be modified to take hydrogen as fuel? And make it totally a green engine.
Seems interesting. Need mote info tho.
Its nice and all...but does it make the brab brab brab sound....🤔
A diesel / HHO version looks like the way to go for marine , motorcycle , & ultralight aircraft .
No. In aviation it's fuel cells used only as converters for gaseous hydrogen. Already decided.
Give me a 500 HP diesel water cooled version that can be mated to a bell housing and transmission, and I'd be happy to do a long term road test......
I WANT IT LETS GO
Updated Wankel. . nothing new. .just improved
It’s a huge improvement. Something Mazda couldn’t do obviously. That’s why it was discontinued.
@@The_Conservative_Latino Mazda used the basic design that Mr. Felix Wankel invented in 1919, when he was just 17 years old... An absolutely brilliant individual he was... Mazda made it work very well... In fact, it was Mazda that won the 1991 Lemans race in a 787B racecar with a 4 rotor Wankel engine... It literrally left the competing cars in the dust in that race... None of the other cars should have even been racing on that track.... They were SLAUGHTERED by the Mazda 787B's in that race.. The following year (1992) The Wankel engines were banned by the governing body (ACO) of those races... To spare the competition a repeat performance of the same embarassment of being waxed by the previously underestimated competitor, Mazda... The Wankel was an ingenious design, that the Japanese people were able to bring to the public to enjoy....
Now, this improved design called the 'Fluid Piston' engine was re-designed to eliminate the inherent problems that were associated with the original Wankel engines.... It was made better , by improving the efficiency, power, reliability and lowering the emissions.... The next step would enable it to burn alternative fuels.... This would greatly help the problems of runaway pricing of petrolium energy products, by presenting the practical use of competing alternative fuels and other forms of energy...
The real question is "does it brap?"
Would like to see one in a drag car to see how high horsepower and torque it can make
"piston rings in the wankel engine" lol
This is far more likely to reach production than the fictitious "Water engine" and Hydrogen power..
wow!
So when can I expect one to be available to replace the 1150 pound 5.9 Cummins engine in my Dodge pickup? It wouldn't have to be very big, but would need to be geared down before input to the transmission so that it's output speed would be a good match for my gearing. I could put a lot of other things where the huge engine currently takes up space that would not be needed for the new engine. It might even be profitable to put in a much smaller one to operate the alternator and hydraulic systems of the truck. That would be very cool. I could park and run the generator to power my ham radios while at an event such as Field Day or Jamboree on the Air or Parks on the air. That would be great fun. And with the 35 gallon fuel tank it should extend the range of my pickup to maybe twice what it is now, 600 miles if I drive no faster than 70 so 1200 miles before refueling... Woo HOO!!!
Your cummins will outlast an equivalent engine by 10x
Please put this in a damn car!! You listening Mazda?
AS LONG AS ITS NOT ELECTRIC IM GOOD WITH IT............
Anything wrong with electric motors? What are you running your vacuum cleaner on, or washing machine? Diesel?
No they all have their place..But a toaster with tires isnt my idea of that place...@@wacio
@@milwaukeegregg Your point is a valid one.... The electric motor depends on readily available electrical current, and for vehicles, Large amounts of it ... Storing the electrical energy in batteries is easier said than done, and when the batteries start to wear out, the performance and range of electric vehicles and equipment is greatly reduced.... They have to be charged regularly when not being used which requires a very large powerplant to supply readily available large quantities of electrical power, they are expen$ive and tend to be extremely heavy.... They are best when relatively short distances are traveled on level ground in moderate temperatures and dry weather... I can't tell you how many times I have seen electric vehicles stranded in rainstorms and trying to travel up into the mountains, or in the middle of the deserts on dirt roads, nowhere close to any kind of cell phone reception... One of the ways vehicles with electric motors could become practical, is if another source of electric power is generated, besides a ton (or more) of storage batteries are onboard the vehicle... And it is being done with alternative sources of stored energy and ways that energy can be converted into large amounts of electrical power.... So, at this time , much of the type of equipment like this in it's research & development stages, and progress along with new discoveries are being made with it...
The Liquid piston engine could be one such candidate, to help create an onboard lightweight , powerful & smooth source of mechanical power that could operate on alternative fuels , to power an electrical generator which could power an electric traction motor or send the mechanical power directly to the driven wheels... The options to use alternative energy sources, now become possible with equipment like this...
@@milwaukeegregg Your car requires electric motor to get going already.
@@wacio There was a time, when cars had engines that started with a crank powered by hand... Several motorcycles and lawn equipment are currently started with hand and leg powered levers and pull-ropes... Not every engine needs an electric starter motor...
How does it fly 🪰
@Clintvosloo7694 Somewhat similar to a Wankel type, but with several significant differences... What is one of the very advantageous things about this design versus reciprocating engines is the power to weight ratio, and it's far less complicated. When comparing it to a Wankel, one of the several advantages it has is the absence of sealing issues, when the rotor pass's by the spark plug port... The Liquid piston engine has a fixed position combustion chamber and the spark plug port is NOT located on or anywhere near the sealing surfaces of the rotor or the rotor chamber sealing walls...
The Wankel type has apex seals located at the 3 tips of the rotor , that travel across both spark plug ports, which causes a significant compression and power loss, and a case of somewhat dirty/carbon ridden exhaust emissions, inherent heating and lubrication issues, and fairly rapid wear of the rotor apex seals because of consistently passing over both openings of the spark plug ports that are necessary with that design.....
The liquid piston engine can also be smaller and lighter because of these and several other design changes... Like 3 active combustion chambers per rotor chamber, instead of just 1 active combustion for the Wankel.... The Liquid Piston engine will Probably be less expen$ive to manufacture than several other types of engines as well, because of it's light weight and inherent simplicity ...... Like so many things, the simple things are often the compilation of many years of learning and research.... This Liquid Piston engine appears to be one such design... Simpler, Lighter, More Powerful, Better.....
Evolutionary change. . .hope it has a future
significant diff my es..
@@nin1ten1do The changes and differences between this Liquid Piston Engine and the Wankel, are Probably several times more significant , meaningful, and useful than Pong, compared to the most advanced gaming devices available.. These machines actually do things that are necessary for our daily routines, and are far more useful & necessary than devices built strictly for entertaining those who are suffering from boredom ..
Time will tell, but I predict failure. You can't make a quality piston ring equivalent in a rotary motor design. Diesel usually requires high compression cylinders and that requires good rings. Square things don't survive high heat & cooling was a lesson learned by the pot belly stove people. But here is a thought for you. Using a swinging door style piston on both sides of a waste veggie oil burner in a Stirling type motor I could power my house as it heats my house and hot water, while cooking my large stew pot using gravity to do all the work. No pumps, no filters, no tech, no cost, no sh*t. Of course the Peltier/Seebeck effect electrical generation between the cold and hot water sides of the riser is optional. Yep, you heard it here first. Well that's the spiel anyway. I invented, built, & used the burner for 10 years, but never invented/install/used the Stirling motor design. But a swing door type would be very large pistons equal to about 4 square feet of piston top & that's a WOW. Even though Stirling isn't big power output per cubic inch, massive inches adds up to big power 4free. With a door on one side going out the same time the other side does, they counter balance each other. It's a heat difference engine so a cooling side could be installed on the outside of cylinder & the valve between inside/outside can be at the hinge. That would preheat my cold water tank also. The cylinder looking down is a 2 slice pizza pie shape. An outside arm from the hinge pushes on connecting rod to crank where the 90 degree valve arm or second piston door is attached, and the valve is just a vertical door also, & it's arm comes off it's hinge also. Any form of piston rings can be real sloppy, loose fitting, low friction. I give my Stirling motor design to the world, anybody who wants to make it and sell it, but not own it, cuz it's my intellectual property always. A big thanks to Oliver J. Loveit my power mechanics teacher & 2 doors per Sterling side may be required. Also, in the process of inventing a controllable veggie burner, I made a veggie burner out of a 3 gallon propane tank than ran like the WW2 V1 BUZZ BOMB plane pulse motor at a very powerful high rpm, but it had no moving parts. Any way, good luck to you guys on your rotary diesel.
unfortunatelly its only exists in this video and on some paper specs
Power is Useless without Torque.
So, 175% the power output of an equivalent size conventional diesel?
@boatbeard7767, Size, meaning displacement? Or size, meaning the massive dimensions and serious weight of the vast majority of diesel engines????
they run too hot....they produce too much heat compacted into too small space that's difficult to cool
My bullshit alarm just went off big time when I saw the clickbait
will never be main stream
if this was really all that good it would be everywhere after 20+ years
so there is obviously a BIG issue with it
The research started that long ago... Certain things take a long time to research and develop... Engine R&D has always been challenging, especially when such radically different designs are created from anything that is out in everyday use, at this time... People said much the same thing about powered planes that were beginning to become developed back about 125 years ago... It would take far too long to begin to tell you of the advancements in aviation and space exploration during the last 125 years...
@@michaelmartinez1345 how old are you assuming i am🤣
@@danhard8440 I don't even want to begin guessing your age Amigo. Age is just a number as far as I'm concerned... Felix Wankel came up with a preliminary design of this engine when he was 17 years old, He was a Genious.... Joe Biden is going to be 81 years old in 8 days, and he is having trouble, figuring out how to tie his shoe laces.... Age is just a reference point, of when we were born, NOT necessarily an automatic assumption of wisdom or health...
@@michaelmartinez1345 ya i agree on all that and defiantly the Biden one🤣
my point was if there was really that much potential company's would be throwing money at it so that tells me there is a bigger problem that is not specified in the clip
@@danhard8440 If that company hasn't gone public yet (stock market), nobody can just "throw money at it" as you suggested... Unless the 'investors' would like to see the gardener of that place, instantly become rich (nice, end of the year bonus!) ...
Besides, there is already a good sized client , for these products that you might have already heard of: The U.S. Department of Defence...
Would make for a sweet paramotor engine. Just saying.
*Kind of late to the Electric Engine game.*
Ill buy that for a dollar
Good Morning sir.Toyata has come with Hydrogen
Nitrous oxides? CO2? Particulates? All else is baloney
? is it called the ‘xts 210’ ? or am I being brainwashed by the commentary ?
It is heavier than Wankel of corresponding power, not much more efficient, and uses 3 times more injectors and spark plugs. Very hard to stack in more powerful multi-rotor configurations. Mazda, having all the required know-how and technology is totally uninterested in this engine.
Insane because it doesn't even work
Insane because it does work. This is the "liquid piston" engine which was invented a couple years ago. It's basically an inverted rotary engine. So, it's nothing super new is but it's power to weight ratio is really all that's cool about it.
@akbarshoed and lukekolodziej9631 1) It does work, and dyno tests have already confirmed the 4.0-7.5 h.p. this very light and simple 210c.c. displacement (0.21 Litre) prototype engine design has achieved...
2) There are major differences between the Wankel and this design. One of several improvements made with this design is the much better method of SEALING the vacuum, compression and combustion EVENTS when this engine is operating... Several other things are inherently better as well... A complete re-design of the Wankel engine... The Wankel was Good, but this is so much better , in so many ways...
@@michaelmartinez1345 why? What's with you? Why are you a believer? Show me the running engine.
@@akbarshoed You Tube has it... Do a search, at the top of the comments/notifications/ replies page. First click the magnifying glass at the upper R/H side of that page to make the search bar appear. Then, enter what You want to search in the (word /phrase) search bar . In this case , enter 'Liquid Piston video'. Then press the L/H mouse clicker button while the cursor is atop of the magnifying glass symbol in the upper R/H corner in the top of that page, to activate the video search function.. Several videos of the Liquid Piston engine will appear on that video blog page... Choose the one that You want to watch, then maybe another one, or two.. Now, the time has come, to Do Your homework assignment, and studies, before presenting Your findings report to the board of directors (us), that You're going to be presenting it to... In this way, you can present your efforts of valid reliable information to the various people who are curious of this subject.. You possably could eventually be regarded as a 'Man in the loop'... Good info. hunting Amigo... Tally Ho!!!
@@michaelmartinez1345 I literally said it works... why did you @ me lol
Where is elon musk in the thumbnail
Its 25hp..
I don't know much about technics but it sounds promissing. Less weight, space and consumption: the chassis should follow. Our ego likes big cars in 2023 but our bodies don't need suv's! Listen to the needs of our planet > make small cars with modest and nice characters. We have the knowledge already to do so. Make it possible to use our cars as personal powerplants. Japanese carmakers can make this happen.
Still waiting.
Its powerful for its size. Ok. I dont think itll really get anywhere.
PThe military has contracts with the company to make the motors for power generators, I've seen this used in go,karts and it is really impressive. I have been watching this company for a few years and I too said the same thing originally but now they have signed multi million dollar defense contracts I doubt they will be going anywhere anytime soon.
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 I watched that video. It was a hybrid go cart. It just needs to be bigger and I’d like to see some stats, horsepower and fuel efficiency when ran on pump gas. For now it is just a science experiment which is cool sure. Good for generators too maybe. Reliability is the big factor it if they can pull it off then I’d love to see it. I’m already a big fan of the wankle rotary.
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526and theredwedge9446, Those DOD contracts will enable them (Fluid Piston) to re-invest that money into more research & development of larger, more viable designs... Ones that can effectively be used to power full sized vehicles, using alternative sources of fuels / energy... That type of re-investment could likely grow that company very rapidly, as the similar types of funding brought several American companies and their vendors out of the Red and into the Black ...
They are developing a new engine in a world where electric is taking over. May have been a good idea 20 years ago...
@user-jo2yr9of8s- Not necessarily is the world going to be "taken over" by electric powered only vehicles... The vast majority of electric vehicles are using large groupings of batteries to store the massive amounts of electrical energy, to make a normal road trip, not far from a known charging station... That is proving to be very ineffective... Ok for golf courses , factories, apartment complex's, etc. that don't need to travel far from a charging station in their 800 pound vehicles, that travel on paved level ground... Not so good for long distances, mountains, rainy weather, headwinds, soft dirt roads... That is where vehicles with some gusto and extended range are going to be much more reliable... This Liquid Piston engine design could provide a smooth, efficient, lightweight source of mechanical power, that could possibly be shafted into a drivetrane, or power a relatively lightweight electric generator, to charge less expen$ive batteries that are smaller & lighter, than what the all electric battery powered vehicles have... A hybrid... The thing that makes this engine different, and a good candidate for a hybrid power source, is it's capability for it to burn various alternative fuels, and it's lightweight/ air-cooled design , extreme simplicity (2-moving parts) and it's very high power to weight ratio... Couple this engine to an efficient - relatively lightweight electrical generator, and You've got a WINNER to run a hybrid set-up!!!
No current , Har har, battery or fuel cell has the power density of diesel fuel. Military wants one fuel for everything it uses, Small HP diesels suck. If they can produce an engine that was governed down to 3600rpm, they would conquer the portable generator mkt
SFA torque, also unreliable. Sweet idea and implimentation... just very niche.
Where is the multi-rotary version? Do they plan to produce any for automobiles? I hate EVs! They didn't think them through. They are dangerously explosive and pollution causing via sourcing the lithium for replacing and disposal of old batteries. They still require electricity which still requires powerplants. Also, who can afford them?! Hydrogen fuel for the win, and the XTS rotary engine can burn it!
Literally a Wankel engine
@RedRider76 , That would be like saying the Ford Model 'T' engine is literally the same as a modern inline 4-cylinder , DOHC, VVT,, electronically timed and controlled COP ignition, electronically controlled turbo-charging , electronically controlled variable flow-path intake manifolds , electronically controlled intake throttles and fuel injection timing/quantity controls, electronically controlled engine cooling system air circulation fans on the radiators.... .
This 'Fluid Piston' engine, is Vastly different than a Wankel, and with only 2 moving parts per rotor case assembly. Several of the inherent problems that the Wankell engines always had, but could not get rid of, were effectively addressed with this complete re-design...
Like the old Ford Model 'T' cars, people are now starting to really appreciate simple designs... The 'Fluid Piston' engines are great performers, with extreme simplicity, light weight, reliability, smoothness , are compact sized , quite efficient and very powerful...
It holds the same fundamentals as a wankel.@@michaelmartinez1345
I want one!!
just ROBBED wankel..