Ok, as a guy who's been around for a while in the BOB community, ever since 2020, I believe it is the game's core systems that created this mess. Disclaimer: This is my opinion and is long. The way the game was supposed to be played, as mentioned by a moderator on the BOB discord server is to grow to a reasonable growth like 1.0-1.2, go have fun, get into lots of fights, die, repeat. The game's mechanics *fundamentally oppose this idea* and instead turn it into a grinding simulator. Infinite growth, friendship grade, inherits, nesting. All ways to gain power, and all ways the playerbase has taken the game into their own hands. All these systems heavily punish you for dying, and as such a dinosaur who keeps grinding forever and ever never dies since they are so above a person doing the "intended" gameplay loop that they can easily slay them without skill or effort just by sheer stats alone. And thus servers are controlled by a conglomerate, several clans of people who communicate in discord, establish dino politics (they literally establish blacklists for people to kill and whitelists for people not to kill), and oftentimes serve to control entire servers, it's the reason why Forest exists. This chases away the players not willing to join them or make their own clans. And makes servers that aren't willing to bend to them fall, as they withdraw support from them, and make them unable to gain support. The worst part is that these mechanics have the tendency to make people get "attached". They spent a lot of time getting to where they are now (regardless of the amount of skill it took), and as such it makes them unnegotiable in terms of adding benefits for those who don't want to put absurd amounts of time or having their tools nerfed. Thus why what you call the AFK grow community is so attached. They spent a lot of time, and I can see why they would feel that way. And those tools the devs later added on like revival only served to make everything worse or didn't address the core problem at all. Revival, while made to tackle the pain of losing a dino and made infinite growth less powerful, made it so that if some guy managed to get a dinosaur with a ton of inherits, it never died. This basically made it so that people never lost their power, and what did it amount to? These conglomerates could fully dominate a server. Even if you killed them, they'd come back a few days later with their +2 in everything dino since they were guarded all the time by their teammates. Any attempts made by the common player to resist were responded to with swift spawn camping, blacklisting, and cyber bullying. As of now, I think the current BOB is unsalvageable, many things would have to change in order for the more "hardcore" playstyle to be reinforced, and not simply sink into the grinding routine like it already has.
This! This is exactly my opinion as well. As far as I know, The Isle had a similar problem before BoB was a thing, mostly on either sandbox servers or very clan-friendly servers like Asura and Nublar. These clans would sit on certain spots of the map and kill anyone else attempting to even pass through, and most mods and admins enabled that kind of behaviour. The official servers were, thank god, not as bad because they were regulated very well. There were strict rules and anyone who didn't abide to them got their dino slain over and over again, mostly by H-type dinos the devs spawned in, and at some point it became boring for clans to continue mixpacking or mass-packing due to the fact that they lost more than they gained. With BoB, that's just not the case. In my opinion ESPECIALLY the infinite growth system is a huge problem that generates and attracts toxic clans who aim to rule over certain parts of the map or even entire servers. I've seen such groups killing an entire server's population, and the official servers are currently infested with these sort of clans as well. While it is clearly a dinosaur simulator that is intended to simulate survival and somewhat (!) realistic behaviour, I feel like most people do not take into account that it's still humans playing this game. And humans will do anything to exploit every last drop of the mechanics they are given to work with. In this case, the overpowered nesting system, the infinite growth system, and many beneficial buffs to go with it. The Restless Debuff was a good start, but by far only a single drop of water in a huge desert full of toxicity and exploitation. And the very standard rules of not meshing or mixpacking are either not enforced well enough or don't do anything against the core problem to begin with. I had a lot of fun in BoB, but sadly I was usually playing solo. And, unfortunately enough, you cannot play this game if you're playing solo, whether on the official servers or on the community founded ones. It's currently in the same state Day of Dragons is in playerbase-wise, and personally I find that really sad. I don't really see any way to tackle the mentioned problems if they don't work on the core mechanics that cause these, either. If they continue to enable infinite growth (obviously with a cap, but that cap really is not worth mentioning), they're always going to enable AFK growing that is protected by their team mates. If they keep up the nesting system as it is right now (inheriting rather than gaining stats by gameplay, for example), there are always going to be clans who seek to dominate the servers like they are right now. It's a mess... A mess that drives away many loyal players because it's literally destroying your mental health as it is and it's not at all the fun experience it is meant to be.
i honestly wish i could just grab this entire comment and send it directly to the devs , it is such a perfectly put one that says exactly what this game needs to get better , the rotten standard that it has become really needs to go if the game ever wants to grow as big as its competitors , rn it is by far the most unfriendly to new players out of the 3 , where if you pick a big server with actual enemy gamers you either are forced to suck up to clans of dumb children or you get killed by them on repeat , none of those sound good to me lol
100% agree whit your opinion, most of the servers are not even populated or failed, a few server got these clan ppl, they basically afk grow, all the time or when they bored they will go against the 1.0-1.2s and when they kill them whit a 2.0+ rex, they just say skill issue if you die.......... In my opinion bob is a big growth biased game, nothing more
Yeah, its definitely dying. People play only on server with autorevives, deathmatches, chill or mixpack servers. Main reason for me i think, is just big dinos. Imagine u do dinosaur and u play and know that u will be killed by 3.0 meg or 2.0 rex or other overgrowed huge unrealistic dino in close future.
What I like about BOB is it doesn't overwhelm the roster with 3-5 species that function basically the same, it's one (At most 2) species per type... But from what I've seen, POT is shaping up to overtake both The Isle & BOB...
@@iwillhaveyourorder5174 in terms of development timeline PoT has been on the market the least compared to both the isle and bob, yet it is leagues ahead with cross platform, modding and developer support. agree that PoT still has a lot of work to do but with the wealth of flexibility available to community servers i feel it is only a matter of time before PoT shines well above both bob and the isle
@@butchersblock For me whats holding it back is the combat. Its just so slow and buggy for me. Evirma (when it works) has this really great high risk high reward combat thats quick but shows off player skill really well most of the time with most playables. Carno, teno, pachy and utah are really really good and fun for fights. BoBs is the middle ground but its still really rewarding once you figure out the game.
About 3 years ago I bought this game and it friggin sucked so I refunded quickly XD Then in the second half of 2020 I bought it to try it again and I was like "okay I don't wanna get ganked right off the bat while I'm trying this so I'll go to a low pop server or something that looks chill". I was pleasantly surprised and I really enjoyed the chill server I joined. I loved the idea of growing dinos with a bunch of other people, seeing their skins, nesting and having fun events. I understand that's not what the devs really wanted but it was so cool that the community sculpted something like that. I was sad when they made it so dinos didn't scale in size with their growth as much. While that's fine for actual PVP servers to make shelter and stuff more viable, it really took away all the hard work some people put into their dinos. I wouldn't mind it as much if community servers could have the option of whether or not they want reduced growth scaling but that's not even an option ): I am glad they are taking steps towards actually getting the game into more fast paced pvp in the form of their new map: Titania. I have tried many times to get into official servers but there are just too many mixpackers and giant clans that hunt you down just so your soul gets crushed and you don't want to grow or fight anymore XD That's why I'm so excited for Titania. It's fast paced and there won't be any giant dinos. It'll be a fair, fresh start for everyone. I'll finally dip my toe into pvp again once it's out. I hope they leave it up to community servers what they want to do instead of being forced to play a certain way. It does suck that so many servers are riddled with rules and auto res but if that's what the server owner wants, it's their choice. Sometimes I wanna pvp and other times I just wanna chill and look at kaiju dinosaurs that glow
Bob needs to cap growth. It’s as simple as that. Make it 2.0, the average player that this game needs to survive, does not get that big anyways. I’d guess many that buy this, are looking for a wholesome pvp survival game that contains an ecosystem that we can find a nich we enjoy. Bob has the variety, it’s got the weather and the ability to tune your creature with talents. It’s looking better and better, there’s some creatures coming in so excited for. The new map is looking great, bob can easily become THE be the creature survival game. This constant grind to be competitive is not it though.
The thing is that beasts of bermuda devs are creating broken ass dinos...last update destroyed apa viability,made sais unkillable,gave mosas a broken ass hitbox during dartstrafe...allowing birds to once again kill apas was the dumbest idea predatoria had the last 5years
Idk how the birds have adapted to the matchup but apas literally 2nd best Dino in game right when it comes to fair growth fights. People were just too used to 1.2 apas being able to fight off 3.0s and such. Ultimately boils down to a game design issue rather than an apa issue.
When they added the cave debuff that helped a lot but a lot of the private servers uncheck options like that. It shouldn't be an option tho, It should just be always on no matter what
I’ve played a lot of isle evirma and some legacy and once you experience it once, you’ve experienced it a hundred times as the game play loop feels similar (especially in legacy) and I’ve been wanting to get into BoB cause it seems “fresh” and unique with all the dinos having different abilities and what not. evirma is slowly getting to that same stage but using slowly as the context here is an understatement as the updates are a few and thin but idk I would just like a second opinion on wether to play beast of Bermuda or not :v
I would definitely try it if you have never played it. There's fun to be had for sure. If official servers get populated or you can find a good community server, it's great. Unfortunately neither is the case at this time.
@@Yur_oe I do recommend the game as well. I played on survival servers for a while and kinda got put off by the huge players. But, I like a chill server that I found a few years ago. I find it a good server to start out on as everyone is willing to help you learn controls, be nested in, test out your strength and learn a bit about other game stuff. Its called Warless, we have events pretty often, and were always welcoming to new players and teaching others how to play :)
For all it’s problems, if you like this genre it’s definitely worth a try. You should get 20 bucks of fun out of it at least. If your unlucky, you will fall in love with it and find yourself in an abusive relationship going on 1000 hours now.(save me)
I just hate how many hours you have to put into the game to have a chance. Yes, infinite growth isn't AS much of a problem anymore, but still too much. Very frustrating to die over and over, because you don't wanna afk grow 24/7. I mostly don't have that time or don't wanna no life this game. So sadly that's very off putting for me. Plus the community
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 Oh yeah inherhits are also very unfair... you can't do anything against a big group of big good inherit dinos. Iheriting is great when you get it, but it makes spawns just be pure luck... wich is awful, cause you'd have to respawn over and over
I feel like the devs choose favorite dinos (the ones they main) and just refuse to debuff them. Megalo is super unbalanced and so is Acro. Most servers make Megalo packs 8-10 adults and that's not really fun because there's 8 3.0-4.0+ megalos in a pack. Unbreakable on Megalo as well is super OP and they can run away even with max inj. Pachy got unbreakable taken away because of this but Megalo doesn't? Yikes. I also feel like EB should be debuffed because I've had dinos take 45 stam per bite and it's just game over at that point. Acro healing is so OP as well. 1 sit and they're basically full health again. It feels unbalanced. Devs won't listen to us and that makes us hate the game more. Plus there aren't many servers anymore that are actually normal pvp play. They either all got shut down or admins had too much power, abused it and ran off their player count.
Cap growth! You can’t balance a Meg pack who is on average, comparable in size to my “fully” grown 1.2-1.5 acro. Most of bobs roadblocks involve science fiction sized members of the various playable species.
I guess I just don't believe the game is that unbalanced. Megalo may be able to pack but it has a lot of weaknesses as well. A group of same amount of Paras can destroy the same amount of meg's quite easily and they're also very susceptible to Rex charge. Nearly everything has a counter in the game. Across healing is taken away completely with bleed of a mega raptor and also easily tail ridden by them. If you can't beat them as current dino, try switching it up!!😁
@@butchersblock Not really tbh, I've seen Megalos even smaller ones bunny hop through Rexes and not get hit a single time, same with Acros and Apas. Most meg players are in clans and don't give out eggs to others so they're all god nested Megalos that can bunny hop through herds and come out fine.
The simple solution is to place a growth caps, but since the community is gOnNa be butt hurt if that happens, stats should not be scaling past 1.2. Simple as that. The inherits and the extra talent points you receive when you get larger should be the only thing that individuals receive as a bonus for growing past 1.2
There won't be a cap with titania. It's pretty cool tho the get hungrier as you age. This will essentially leave a cap for those dinos since it will eventually become so difficult to feed. The gauntlet brings such a cool system to the game!
@@butchersblock I still think the growth cap should be 1.2 or the stats need to stop scaling at that point. The trials themselves is enough of a grind as it is
@@butchersblock best part is...this map is already bigger than the others and its less then half its full size...once the rest gets released its going to make flying through the skies as a pterosaur that much more fun. my only critisizm now is it lacks a minimap..if they add that when titania is finnished...and flesh out the underwater biom just a bit more then it will be perfect.
i agree on u that sometimes is so shit to play in a server with rules and some ppl dont care about rules and make a rb on u and is like ok then why does this have rules if a lot ppl dont care about it, but some times servers with body down, and have to contest for the pg are more funny that official and other servers without these rules and i can say that becuase i have played official, i played as lurd on ur server ( it was rlly funny) and i have played a lot servers with rules, and i offer to you to play with me in a server with rules ( only if you want) for show to you how it is if any one do a rulebreak
I appreciate it! I've played plenty on ruled servers and it's just not for me. I have a hard time finding excitement in waiting for gore to be gone just to be able to hunt again. I love the hunt and want to do it as much as possible. This is where Bob gameplay is the best! I just don't see any appeal to waiting. I'll be curious to see how the gauntlet impacts ruled servers with the hunger.
@@butchersblock yes i agree on that i hate to stay afk with gores as dinos like, velo, elasmo, when u hunt rex or mosa and hunt is the best thing of bob but some times play on official with no rules is stressful, u maybe are idk 1.8 acro and do 1vs2 coah 1.3 u play it so well and win with 100hp then a velo come and kill u is like ok i spend 3k hours on an acro for do a nice play and velo kill me
It’s also entirely unbalanced. Ichthy and Lurdu has been underpowered for several updates, and even got further nerfed whilst 5 roar 5 serrated acros bully entire servers
I absolutely agree. I see a lot of these issues specifically on revive servers like life finds a way. thunder kingdom whispering tomb the list goes on.
Thanks dude! Just wanted to share publicly to see if they actually do anything about it. When people are publicly held accountable sometimes something happens. Won't hold my breath tho lol
I doubt it, one thing I thought about and I actually disagree with tho; I think the majority of people interested in dinosaur games actually do enjoy combat more than chilling/growing/e-rp’ing, it’s just that they’re not vocal about it. In terms of bobs current community sure, but there really aren’t that many people playing bob anymore, lol. It’s just so saturated with rules and drama and admin abuse that it’s just not worth playing, like you said.
I stop playing Offical servers purely becouse a large amount of player was saying kill on sight was a Rule, i generally try and talk with new people ingames and even ask for help or be helpful in someway, but when Playing carnovore and need food i am still going to kill if i have to. played a fair amount of tropeognathus but then a large Bird war happen and it was tropeo VS Ptera, so Kinda had to fight back.
The this is BoB isn't dying due to any of the devs fault its hte community. Its either toxic 14 year old edge lords who clan up and rule a server with an iron fist because they do nothing but afk grow or hyper sensitive people who play on servers that will get you banned for saying one slightly offensive thing. I'm not saying the game is perfect but the community being toxic and hyper sensitive makes no one wanna play the game as the both sides clashing makes this giant shit storm hell them existing turns me off. Officals dying was the last hope left for this game. The asian clans didn't help and honestly there is nothing you can do. Like you said you fight them they win get them banned they win. They just keep coming back. I've lost almost all my dinos on officals trying to bring them down. Hours of my life and hours of my friends life wasted on something that shouldn't even be a problem to begin with.
@@mojolmao1752 if they want perma death they need to get rid of ridiculous growth times/ nesting/ inherits. because the inherit system had such toxic clan mentality behind it and if you didn't have a group you were dead. so it was very unfriendly to beginners/ solo players seeing as the established players would kill anyone and everyone under those categories. that or you would be targeted if people knew your group, and you also had to keep your inherits under tight wraps etc; it was fucked back then.
I like dinosaurs a lot, but this game has nothing to do or offer but walk around and make noises. Some aspects are very beautiful, but that's just it. A pretty dinosaur game. The community is actually tolerable with very nice people. But they're all suffering from the same obsession. They're all completely FIXATED on the growth, breeding, and stats system. I've seen individuals on for 15+ hours just afk-growing and breeding to have the best, prettiest and biggest dinosaur of their species on one specific server. Because of its addictive attributes this game condones.
Yep, sadly this is the truth. I myself find I only play for these reasons nowadays and I wish this game wasn't built in such a way that that had to be the case. Even in the early days of the game, which a lot of people claim to miss, the growth system and perma death was a big issue. The endless growth is unique but it ultimately is what causes all these problems with this game.
Spitting straight facts. Chill server players not only cry and complain when they get killed (Usually because they have no real combat experience) They're also a big enough percentage of the community that they _Heavily_ influence polls. This is an issue because they come in with the same cloned opinions tend to negatively impact the way the game is balanced. Especially since they outnumber the people who play the game as intended.
Gm Great vid, what are your thoughts on the upcoming official Titania server? I expect a majority of o2 to flock to it, Forest clan included, for that big arms race to who can be the next big group. I personally don’t have any interest yet, but at least players will have more options to choose from in terms of servers and stop whining about being killed and always found on O2’s tiny ass map
Any new map has potential to be great. Personally I feel rival shores was perfect for pvp engagements based around 100-150 people. Any larger and I feel it's very difficult to find people.
Content is content but I don't believe it will solve their major issues. I think it would be interesting having a server that wipes every few months so people can reset and have excitement of being the biggest.
@@butchersblock regular resets is something that is sorely needed in bob, but until the playerbase matures and relinquishes its attachment to individual dinos it will never happen...servers will just continue to birth, grow, stagnate and decline with none of the core issues getting sorted
@@cubey_doo players attachment to their dinos will never go away unless they shorten the growth span drastically. Which would also allow people to fill out trees faster etc
@@Jorbinkles Or they could implement a hard cap to force players to make dinos in a certain build and that build alone, instead of allowing a single one to have everything eventually- that way the gameplay niche is still there
I adorded this game originally. Used to play it as much as I could. Now I do not touch it whatsoever. I started to play it when had a leader board in it back then. I agree I miss perma death, it made it all the more exciting. I feel like it ruined the game once they implemented auto revives and resurrections. I also agree with your point how people like to be catered to the point of making the game abysmally boring. All I see now is chill, and auto revive servers left which is no fun. I just hope this new update with Titania brings back the core game play of survival.
Having played 2 tests now, I really believe it will! Titania is amazing. I just believe it will be boring on private servers do to the overabundance of rules
the only 3 reasons i havent tried and i am tempted to try is 1) the weird colors dinos can have aka neon green and stuff and kind of also the Graphic. 2) i saw some major unbalance where a tiny tiney micro raptor can kill a rex cause tailriding and Rex unable to bite the mini dino 3) eating crystals and bullshit which makes zero sense i want to try tho but im really turned of from the super unrealistic colors
I always say if BoB had the same graphics look like isle or path then it would just destroy the others. One thing I always see people talk about is that BoB doesn't look as good as the others. For the most part it doesn't but at some points the game is just gorgeous
whats funny is mixpacking happens in both the other games official servers, and no one is getting banned. the dumb enforcement for something that naturally happens in these types of games is prob why its dying. you want rules play in a community server. thats how it is in the other games idk why this one is so special
if they want to get pop on it again they will have to give us back our old bob old size and good shit cause the communty is kinda shit now alot of ppl became toxic before there was 1 alpha of ocean 1 alpha of earth 1 alpha of sky Well #Backoldbob
honestly i love how you can revive your dinosaur, BoB wasnt suppose to be realistic in the first place. They just need to IP ban hackers, problem solved.
i can see why kids or whatever were threatening to kill themselves or hurt themselves, back on old growth it took maybe 200-400 hours dedication to get 2.0+ on the dino you liked.. let alone probably 100-300 hours renesting. I think the game is better over all, way more fun, enjoyable, still a huge timesink and waster. I find reincarns and autorevives helped encourage people to play their dinos more and even people like me (who prefered chill/revive servers before fast growth and reincarnate patch) People literally wanted to lynch the devs over small changes like size or apato being more accurate to real life fossils. I feel like what kills the game is the incredibly painful and slow release of updates. It's gonna take them 2 fucking years just to rework and reanimate saichainia and pteradon, meanwhile pachy and acro still need it. and mosa and elasmo needs remodel and reanimation as well. With the pace they work at that would take fucking 3-4 years. its so slow good god. I know paying for good modelers and animators, coders, etc might not be within reason though.
also pointing out why most of these 2x servers die they just give out free growth, constant fucking safezones, 24/7 growth storms, buyable playergores and growth storms. and then the server dies in 1 month after everyones hit 2.0 and got bored. like tf did they expect?? holy fuck sorna celestial thundering having a 48 hr event every fucking weekend dude. my god. people would literally grow to 2.0 during those events then be too scared to get on when there wasn't an event. plus 2x means you dont need to invest as much time to a server just to find out the server owners a fucking pedophile or somehtin smh so needing to stick to a server isnt really a thing anymore so if servers treat their community like shit they just die
The last problem that should be on their list is the visuals. Visuals have NEVER been a strong point of BoB, but that's okay, because what matters most is the gameplay and they had a good formula going for them originally. It's only once terrible timesink mechanics that skew the community and solo players while overshadowing the rest of the game were added, and other gameplay hiccups, that the game completely fell to the wayside for most people. I've never had a problem with the graphics. If anything it's performance. I could care less how presentable the dinosaur models are as long as the game is enjoyable.
Tbh at this point the only servers that have a good pop is chill servers, so many people have made pvp servers that never get popular, not like how servers used to be. It is true that clans and hackers have kinda been controlling servers for a while now. The more people on your side the more likely you'll live. I've been killed countless times and found myself really hating the pvp side of this game, due to most people being better at pvp then me or staff members of private servers admin abusing or not upholding the rules they made for thier server, along with having bias towards people they dont like or are friends with.
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If thats true about the killing themselves stuff, giving in to them did that oerson no favours in fixing their mental health issue, if anything it reinforced it.
I mean so tbh I know a handful of people are swapping over the old BoB 2020 version lol legit was showed it the other day an saw the TAB menu an saw sooo many people i use to know
I suggest trying to join the life finda a way server, its the best server ive found it does have auto revives but i think most do now sense the whole new appeal is getting cool skins, glinding, nesting ect theres still battle gameplay like purge day with no rules (these days are fun) but yea its an overall more chill game tbh
I really despise auto revive haha. It takes nearly all survival aspect away from the game. Death and life means nothing with auto revive. Engagements don't feel meaningful anymore at that point. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Auto revive makes the game way too easy imo
all auto revive servers are terrible, its just either holding hands and singing kumbaya, or you slaughtered killed by a 10.0 rex that was ultra nested for the best inherits. the only way to become competitive in an auto revive server is when you afk, and that replaces the entire point of the game
Well with there only being 2 severs (Karma and LFAW) basically running the game there will most likely be no change in the way it’s played and no change in the way the community is… been about 4-5 months since I’ve played that game so I could be wrong but when I did play it was very toxic to play.
I also think that the game is dying. When I first started a few years ago I was very put off by Official servers, I didnt like having to contest as it took away any chance of ambushing something to push it off of its food without having to contest. The large players also put me off, I didnt like constantly running into huge dinos constantly when I kinda expected to be able to have a balance of decently sized dinos and fresh spawns running around. Currently I am playing a Chill server called Warless and have been in their community for a few years now, people spend so long growing their dinosaurs and are very proud of their growth, myself included. We have events constantly, alot of Hunts where people learn how to fight and test out their strength, we also have just some funny events like a Soccer event with dinos who do knockback and Basketball with fliers which is tons of fun. All in all ive fallen more for a community I found in the game more than the game itself, I love the idea of the game but I feel it needs a few overhauls in fixing the bugs and also making the game look better in general.
Yeah no the community is a complete mess, they don't care about improving the game, they just want things to change to be in their favor or to maintain their silly status on the game or server. The game is also completely suffering from extreme sunken cost fallacy, to the point where it leads to crazy demands and suicide threats like you mentioned in the video. The fact that the game has infinite growth and growth is still time-based, ontop of inherits and how much these factor into your viability to play the game (ESPECIALLY SOLO), completely screwed the game and enabled such a dysfunctional community. People like to argue that infinite growth is what makes BoB unique, but I disagree, because before infinite growth and inherits existed the game still had a very unique identity. I used to be a tester for the game from pre-alpha to steam EA release, and it's crazy seeing how the community changed and strangled the devs, especially because of some of these mechanics that enable them. The game used to have more of an emphasis on Player vs Environment, making it stand out as a PvPvE game compared to the likes of isle. But now it just seems to be the afk grow and grind inherit with a megaclan simulator, and it completely overshadowed anything else valuable about the game. I hope Predatoria can one day just say he's satisfied with what he's gotten out of catering to this deranged community and just make some drastic changes that bring the game back to the original or at least a better vision, and not be worried about the community backlash. I know there are a lot of people that would probably come back and play it, or play it for the first time, if the game could be taken seriously. Right now it just can't be.
i really hope its not dying. its my favorite of the dino games, and the isle feels like pulling nails to me. EDIT: okay i personally am someone who plays on ruled servers because, yes, im more of a casual player and i think its not bad to want a possibility to play the way it is fun to me. but i also think people who want to do a lot of pvp and dont like rules a lot should have a place to play where its fun for them. that said, im fairly dissappointed with how official are run these days.
Yeah it's definitely cool to play the way you want although I just feel like most of the private servers tend to turn people away with obsessive rules and put a bad taste in people's mouths that may be new or just regular players. The official servers seem to be overrun with rule breakers who can't seem to understand or follow a simple ruleset. This is why the game needs to get away from rules in general.
@@butchersblock im not sure if i agree with the rules being abolished in general. I prefer play on body down rule servers mainly bc it prevents KOS which has always turned me away from playing.
I use to love the game. Played it since it's release on steam up untill a couple months ago. They are running the game into the ground for sure. Now I'm just waiting for bob to get better or for the new dino game "isle of yore" to release more content.
I honestly don't see what's wrong with them. They accurately display everything and looks fine. Btw Mario has 8 bit graphics yet is one of the best games of all time.
@@butchersblock agreed but i like the extra realistic graphics of path of titans to be honest put any of the three path of titans isle or beasts of bermuda ill play them ive only played path of titans cause i only have console and neither islr or beasts of bermuda is on console i still prefer path of titans because i like the mechanics and the way a dino will attack you and you overpower it and chase it down.
@@fanofwolves pot definitely has some realism. I actually thought paths graphics werent as good when it came down to the micro scale. Their new map gonda will blow everything out of the water tho. UE5 is so powerful
@@butchersblock ik right gondwa looks amazing and the adding of aquatics and water creatures will definitely increase the game’s potential. and the fact that the new map is named after the ancient landmass makes a dinosaur nerd like me happy most things involving dinosaurs do.
Besides server rules and the aotorevive BS etc. I personally think it's the hardcore unballanced dinos and this patch rn probably being the worst one yet. Acros are gods, apatos rework made it a mess, megars 100% percent inj backjumping away from rexes, ichty being fodder and the list goes on. And I personally DESPISE the revive mechanic, the temples, the challenges, the secret eggs ALL OF IT, players get so hardcore encouraged to max trials - reincarnate - get op broken dino - keep reviving nothing is accomplished ppl grow dinos they don't wanna play, to revive a dino they don't wanna touch BeCaUsE they might die again, it just encourages the most PlayItSafe wait for friends, steam friends etc to play X dino, it's depressing, and the secret eggs just suck, something which used to be an easy way to get into a group, socialize get to know players, with the benefits of the parents growing faster/you getting good dino is now officially getting discouraged. Devs just need to play the game, the game dies the moment the original devs stop playing their own game, they don't know what's wrong and try and fix things that didn't need fixing, nobody said they want revive mechanic, whenever someone died they usually say "it's part of the game" etc. But this is enough, good video
Well you see laddie The bob mod/admin team is absolute dogshit the devs are ok, its mostly bad choice in moderation but mix that with incredibly childish community that wants a chill server as an entire game and you get what we have Any and all actual critisism is claimed as "Disrespecting the mods" so you cannot even suggest they get new ones, due to being muted or banned from the disc for being "Disrespectful"
i used to enjoy official servers but the community killed the server themselves by making large disgusting mixpack groups. they nolife the server and afk grow till they're 2.0 and run around wiping other players. this is the reason I moved to ruled servers and many other aswell (I'm looking at you snowy mountain players on official server #2)
I personally think that you got a lot of your reasoning wrong in this video. The core problems are right, but servers catering to people who just don't want to challenge themselves and get everything handed to them? I think you should ask yourself where that stems from. If you're constantly faced with super-nested 3.0-4.0 dinos that instantly kill your dinos, no matter how hard you work and try and grow, would you really still want to invest 200 hours to grow to 1.5 and then still get your ass handed to you on a silver plate by yet another clan doing super-nesting? The Isle doesn't have that problem with "soft server rules catering to people who don't want to work for it", because you essentially don't have the problem of absolutely overpowered dinos slaughtering you the second they see you. You know exactly what you're going to fight and if two adult Gigas fight, it actually comes down to turning and skill rather than "My Rex is 3.0 and has 5/3 in all talent trees so your 1.2 spawn Rex is going to be my fodder." I think you need a wider view...
@@butchersblock I agree, but you're not the average player. The player base currently consists of toxic clans or casual players, and casual players usually aren't able to do that due to the aforementioned reasons. Which basically kills the fun for them.
@@choraki I love that the skill ceiling is high though. It makes me feel accomplished as a veteran player and when I was new, the challenge to get closer to the top felt awesome! There are enough games that aren't challenging out there. I really appreciate a game that can challenge your movements and your strategy.
@@butchersblock That is true! The skill gap between average players, clans, and veterans is quite huge, and reaching the point where you achieved such coordination and strategic planning is wonderful. For that, I actually envy you. Keep up the great work!
Personally I agree that most servers are the same sorta gameplay loop, with anything new kinda not getting touched nor supported. It's okay to be a casual, competitive, or chill player. The game is honestly the best for chill players, as you actually gain something for growing on that dino. It's rewarding to see that ''3.0'' growth, and to be that big dino just walkin' around. New servers on BoB are immediately at a disadvantage, even moreso than TI or PoT, the problem of not wanting to move servers. Just as an example, why play on Primal when O2 is right there, a server (as a competitive player) you'd probably already have something on, as well as a more stable pop. Regardless of better staff and removal of hackers, the dinos you have and player interaction make the game. I think these are all mostly the base game's fault, and that removing some of a server owner's power wouldn't really fix it. You can't turn off mix species invites because you need them for events, you can't convice BoB to remove the inherit system, or infinite growth. However, to me the solution would be to give server owners way more control. The ability to turn off reincarnations and revives, change how many inherits you can have, change the amount those inherits impact, etc. The server I'm currently on doesn't allow revives or reincarnations, so it keeps that intense feeling during combat. Sadly though, these niche communities don't get much attention, even though it could really work if people just consistently played them.
Its the community thats the problem the game is not the issue. Good game shit communities everywhere. Theres no point in playing becuase the servers that are avalible are stricken with admin abuse.
Most servers are "chill" or "autorevive" servers now. Absolute fucking bullshit. Community has always got to ruin everything. First TI with pay2win bullshit and now autorevive LOL. It's like buying CoD but you you're not allowed to shoot..?
I've also stopped but the future of b.o.b. is grim I don't wanna spend hours playing the game growing just to die to nonsense in my book the isle evrima is becoming way better than Bob it's movement system is way better than Bob an tbh Bob is dying there's like 2 servers that are left dying game in my book
Yes it is. the devs don't Do anything helpful they dont release regular updates they don't do dev blogs and they don't listen to the community, someone i know made a suggestion which got 600+ upvotes and they took one look at it and said No without considering it. they removed one off the main features people played BoB for which was growing to huge sizes and they nerfed size/models so much.
Pls say that’s a joke about it being the best Dino game path of titans and the isle is much better with graphics and this game ur playing looks trash 😂
It's really not that complicated, most game have to cater to a core and hardcore audience to properly thrive. And people are core for many different reason within life it's not some weak mindset shit lmao. If you barely have time in your life and you try raising a dino to a decent size and aren't a lurd good luck with that. Generational thought process within gaming has been the same since the get go as well, nothing has changed and it's not that deep.
I can't tell you how many overgrown dinos I've killed with just a 1.2 adult. Every dino has a weakness. I definitely disagree about the generational thought process. People are far more entitled than they used to be. I mean sure some games can pick certain audiences but the problem is starting out hardcore survival and switching to soft dino hangout. Why make the switch? Maybe more people will join the game? That thought is ok if it actually draws a crowd but fact is that the games been on a steady decline since the Rex update and isn't exactly getting any better.
"If you barely have time in your life and you try raising a dino to a decent size and aren't a lurd good luck with that." - and this is what will kill BoB in the long run because why would anyone want to buy and invest in this game with no balance vs. the hardcore base? monthly average users is declining steadily despite regular updates because other games offer the PvP experience with a lower time investment. it will just result in $$$$ loss for the devs
@@butchersblock the reason is because people are forced to put thousands of minutes on a dino. Even if you can kill big dinos as a 1.2, that is not always the case and its just a suicidal playstyle. So ofc people play it safe until they're big. The growth system is what kills this game. If it wasn't so drawn out, you wouldn't have people so attached to their dinos. People being so attached to their dinos is why some of these community problems exist anyways.
only reason why its the best dino game out there is because has flyers and aquatic the isle roaster isnt even finished so with other mechanics path of titans just trash but the game is dying indeed
Games meant to be play for display of skill? If only you started your video with this sentence... you would spare a solid 15 minutes for me :D Ofc games requer a set of skills and you can imrpouve said skills but they are meant to be play for having fun. :D You definetly can having fun buy improuving your gameplay, but maaaaaaaaaybe you can having fun by other ways too. Probably most of the players can't take seriously that tryharding thing in a game about dinos [especially about rainbow colored dinos... :D ] it's kinda like tryharding in a fishing game. Actually you have all the informations you needed to didn't make a ridicoulus statment like this.: U had a server, it faild cuz wast majority of the playerbase won't share your thoughts of "having fun" in BoB, and those who are want to play like you simply don't had anyone to play with in the end. So... nope games in general not meant to be play for "display of skill" [asd...], and as you can see BoB also not meant to be for this, or at least the playerbase doesn't want to play the game in that way.
I stopped playing the game to, to much toxicity among the players and server owners always going on power trips.
Ok, as a guy who's been around for a while in the BOB community, ever since 2020, I believe it is the game's core systems that created this mess.
Disclaimer: This is my opinion and is long.
The way the game was supposed to be played, as mentioned by a moderator on the BOB discord server is to grow to a reasonable growth like 1.0-1.2, go have fun, get into lots of fights, die, repeat.
The game's mechanics *fundamentally oppose this idea* and instead turn it into a grinding simulator.
Infinite growth, friendship grade, inherits, nesting. All ways to gain power, and all ways the playerbase has taken the game into their own hands.
All these systems heavily punish you for dying, and as such a dinosaur who keeps grinding forever and ever never dies since they are so above a person doing the "intended" gameplay loop that they can easily slay them without skill or effort just by sheer stats alone. And thus servers are controlled by a conglomerate, several clans of people who communicate in discord, establish dino politics (they literally establish blacklists for people to kill and whitelists for people not to kill), and oftentimes serve to control entire servers, it's the reason why Forest exists.
This chases away the players not willing to join them or make their own clans. And makes servers that aren't willing to bend to them fall, as they withdraw support from them, and make them unable to gain support.
The worst part is that these mechanics have the tendency to make people get "attached". They spent a lot of time getting to where they are now (regardless of the amount of skill it took), and as such it makes them unnegotiable in terms of adding benefits for those who don't want to put absurd amounts of time or having their tools nerfed. Thus why what you call the AFK grow community is so attached. They spent a lot of time, and I can see why they would feel that way.
And those tools the devs later added on like revival only served to make everything worse or didn't address the core problem at all. Revival, while made to tackle the pain of losing a dino and made infinite growth less powerful, made it so that if some guy managed to get a dinosaur with a ton of inherits, it never died. This basically made it so that people never lost their power, and what did it amount to?
These conglomerates could fully dominate a server.
Even if you killed them, they'd come back a few days later with their +2 in everything dino since they were guarded all the time by their teammates. Any attempts made by the common player to resist were responded to with swift spawn camping, blacklisting, and cyber bullying.
As of now, I think the current BOB is unsalvageable, many things would have to change in order for the more "hardcore" playstyle to be reinforced, and not simply sink into the grinding routine like it already has.
This! This is exactly my opinion as well. As far as I know, The Isle had a similar problem before BoB was a thing, mostly on either sandbox servers or very clan-friendly servers like Asura and Nublar. These clans would sit on certain spots of the map and kill anyone else attempting to even pass through, and most mods and admins enabled that kind of behaviour. The official servers were, thank god, not as bad because they were regulated very well. There were strict rules and anyone who didn't abide to them got their dino slain over and over again, mostly by H-type dinos the devs spawned in, and at some point it became boring for clans to continue mixpacking or mass-packing due to the fact that they lost more than they gained.
With BoB, that's just not the case. In my opinion ESPECIALLY the infinite growth system is a huge problem that generates and attracts toxic clans who aim to rule over certain parts of the map or even entire servers. I've seen such groups killing an entire server's population, and the official servers are currently infested with these sort of clans as well. While it is clearly a dinosaur simulator that is intended to simulate survival and somewhat (!) realistic behaviour, I feel like most people do not take into account that it's still humans playing this game. And humans will do anything to exploit every last drop of the mechanics they are given to work with. In this case, the overpowered nesting system, the infinite growth system, and many beneficial buffs to go with it. The Restless Debuff was a good start, but by far only a single drop of water in a huge desert full of toxicity and exploitation. And the very standard rules of not meshing or mixpacking are either not enforced well enough or don't do anything against the core problem to begin with.
I had a lot of fun in BoB, but sadly I was usually playing solo. And, unfortunately enough, you cannot play this game if you're playing solo, whether on the official servers or on the community founded ones. It's currently in the same state Day of Dragons is in playerbase-wise, and personally I find that really sad.
I don't really see any way to tackle the mentioned problems if they don't work on the core mechanics that cause these, either. If they continue to enable infinite growth (obviously with a cap, but that cap really is not worth mentioning), they're always going to enable AFK growing that is protected by their team mates. If they keep up the nesting system as it is right now (inheriting rather than gaining stats by gameplay, for example), there are always going to be clans who seek to dominate the servers like they are right now. It's a mess... A mess that drives away many loyal players because it's literally destroying your mental health as it is and it's not at all the fun experience it is meant to be.
yup this right here the perfect way to put it
And now… gauntlet.
i honestly wish i could just grab this entire comment and send it directly to the devs , it is such a perfectly put one that says exactly what this game needs to get better , the rotten standard that it has become really needs to go if the game ever wants to grow as big as its competitors , rn it is by far the most unfriendly to new players out of the 3 , where if you pick a big server with actual enemy gamers you either are forced to suck up to clans of dumb children or you get killed by them on repeat , none of those sound good to me lol
100% agree whit your opinion, most of the servers are not even populated or failed, a few server got these clan ppl, they basically afk grow, all the time or when they bored they will go against the 1.0-1.2s and when they kill them whit a 2.0+ rex, they just say skill issue if you die.......... In my opinion bob is a big growth biased game, nothing more
Yeah, its definitely dying. People play only on server with autorevives, deathmatches, chill or mixpack servers. Main reason for me i think, is just big dinos. Imagine u do dinosaur and u play and know that u will be killed by 3.0 meg or 2.0 rex or other overgrowed huge unrealistic dino in close future.
What I like about BOB is it doesn't overwhelm the roster with 3-5 species that function basically the same, it's one (At most 2) species per type... But from what I've seen, POT is shaping up to overtake both The Isle & BOB...
Agreed. Bob is the most unique and creative but POT has a better base laid for future content.
ngl i find POT the worst of the 3 dino games.
@@iwillhaveyourorder5174 their foundation is undeniably solid though. Hopefully it becomes just as feature rich like Bob
@@iwillhaveyourorder5174 in terms of development timeline PoT has been on the market the least compared to both the isle and bob, yet it is leagues ahead with cross platform, modding and developer support. agree that PoT still has a lot of work to do but with the wealth of flexibility available to community servers i feel it is only a matter of time before PoT shines well above both bob and the isle
@@butchersblock For me whats holding it back is the combat. Its just so slow and buggy for me. Evirma (when it works) has this really great high risk high reward combat thats quick but shows off player skill really well most of the time with most playables. Carno, teno, pachy and utah are really really good and fun for fights. BoBs is the middle ground but its still really rewarding once you figure out the game.
About 3 years ago I bought this game and it friggin sucked so I refunded quickly XD Then in the second half of 2020 I bought it to try it again and I was like "okay I don't wanna get ganked right off the bat while I'm trying this so I'll go to a low pop server or something that looks chill". I was pleasantly surprised and I really enjoyed the chill server I joined. I loved the idea of growing dinos with a bunch of other people, seeing their skins, nesting and having fun events.
I understand that's not what the devs really wanted but it was so cool that the community sculpted something like that. I was sad when they made it so dinos didn't scale in size with their growth as much. While that's fine for actual PVP servers to make shelter and stuff more viable, it really took away all the hard work some people put into their dinos. I wouldn't mind it as much if community servers could have the option of whether or not they want reduced growth scaling but that's not even an option ):
I am glad they are taking steps towards actually getting the game into more fast paced pvp in the form of their new map: Titania. I have tried many times to get into official servers but there are just too many mixpackers and giant clans that hunt you down just so your soul gets crushed and you don't want to grow or fight anymore XD That's why I'm so excited for Titania. It's fast paced and there won't be any giant dinos. It'll be a fair, fresh start for everyone. I'll finally dip my toe into pvp again once it's out.
I hope they leave it up to community servers what they want to do instead of being forced to play a certain way. It does suck that so many servers are riddled with rules and auto res but if that's what the server owner wants, it's their choice. Sometimes I wanna pvp and other times I just wanna chill and look at kaiju dinosaurs that glow
Bob needs to cap growth. It’s as simple as that. Make it 2.0, the average player that this game needs to survive, does not get that big anyways. I’d guess many that buy this, are looking for a wholesome pvp survival game that contains an ecosystem that we can find a nich we enjoy. Bob has the variety, it’s got the weather and the ability to tune your creature with talents. It’s looking better and better, there’s some creatures coming in so excited for. The new map is looking great, bob can easily become THE be the creature survival game. This constant grind to be competitive is not it though.
I could get behind a 2.0 growth cap for sure. I like that it's still challenging to get to but still something everyone can achieve.
I feel like this would fix so many problems. I used to looooove to play this game.
The thing is that beasts of bermuda devs are creating broken ass dinos...last update destroyed apa viability,made sais unkillable,gave mosas a broken ass hitbox during dartstrafe...allowing birds to once again kill apas was the dumbest idea predatoria had the last 5years
Idk how the birds have adapted to the matchup but apas literally 2nd best Dino in game right when it comes to fair growth fights. People were just too used to 1.2 apas being able to fight off 3.0s and such. Ultimately boils down to a game design issue rather than an apa issue.
I hope some day BoB success and become a better game
I really hope so too
another great vid Butcher! I miss playin bob with ya but yea im done with it too
thanks dude! it would be great to re live the glory days
I agree, cause rn the game encourages afk growing and doing absolutely nothing in most servers and the players that do that are always the most toxic
When they added the cave debuff that helped a lot but a lot of the private servers uncheck options like that. It shouldn't be an option tho, It should just be always on no matter what
I’ve played a lot of isle evirma and some legacy and once you experience it once, you’ve experienced it a hundred times as the game play loop feels similar (especially in legacy) and I’ve been wanting to get into BoB cause it seems “fresh” and unique with all the dinos having different abilities and what not. evirma is slowly getting to that same stage but using slowly as the context here is an understatement as the updates are a few and thin but idk I would just like a second opinion on wether to play beast of Bermuda or not :v
I would definitely try it if you have never played it. There's fun to be had for sure. If official servers get populated or you can find a good community server, it's great. Unfortunately neither is the case at this time.
@@butchersblock understood, thx for your input on it
@@Yur_oe I do recommend the game as well. I played on survival servers for a while and kinda got put off by the huge players. But, I like a chill server that I found a few years ago. I find it a good server to start out on as everyone is willing to help you learn controls, be nested in, test out your strength and learn a bit about other game stuff. Its called Warless, we have events pretty often, and were always welcoming to new players and teaching others how to play :)
For all it’s problems, if you like this genre it’s definitely worth a try. You should get 20 bucks of fun out of it at least. If your unlucky, you will fall in love with it and find yourself in an abusive relationship going on 1000 hours now.(save me)
5000 hours? Damn that's more than my top 17 games on steam combined. Some real dedication for a single game!
It's taken some time to gather lol
I just hate how many hours you have to put into the game to have a chance. Yes, infinite growth isn't AS much of a problem anymore, but still too much. Very frustrating to die over and over, because you don't wanna afk grow 24/7. I mostly don't have that time or don't wanna no life this game. So sadly that's very off putting for me. Plus the community
It ain't infinite growth anymore my guy, it's inherit spamming and groups that rose to dominance.
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 Oh yeah inherhits are also very unfair... you can't do anything against a big group of big good inherit dinos. Iheriting is great when you get it, but it makes spawns just be pure luck... wich is awful, cause you'd have to respawn over and over
honestly just need regular content updates, like jesus christ these updates are few and far between.
I feel like the devs choose favorite dinos (the ones they main) and just refuse to debuff them. Megalo is super unbalanced and so is Acro. Most servers make Megalo packs 8-10 adults and that's not really fun because there's 8 3.0-4.0+ megalos in a pack. Unbreakable on Megalo as well is super OP and they can run away even with max inj. Pachy got unbreakable taken away because of this but Megalo doesn't? Yikes. I also feel like EB should be debuffed because I've had dinos take 45 stam per bite and it's just game over at that point. Acro healing is so OP as well. 1 sit and they're basically full health again. It feels unbalanced. Devs won't listen to us and that makes us hate the game more. Plus there aren't many servers anymore that are actually normal pvp play. They either all got shut down or admins had too much power, abused it and ran off their player count.
Cap growth! You can’t balance a Meg pack who is on average, comparable in size to my “fully” grown 1.2-1.5 acro. Most of bobs roadblocks involve science fiction sized members of the various playable species.
I guess I just don't believe the game is that unbalanced. Megalo may be able to pack but it has a lot of weaknesses as well. A group of same amount of Paras can destroy the same amount of meg's quite easily and they're also very susceptible to Rex charge. Nearly everything has a counter in the game. Across healing is taken away completely with bleed of a mega raptor and also easily tail ridden by them. If you can't beat them as current dino, try switching it up!!😁
@@butchersblock Not really tbh, I've seen Megalos even smaller ones bunny hop through Rexes and not get hit a single time, same with Acros and Apas. Most meg players are in clans and don't give out eggs to others so they're all god nested Megalos that can bunny hop through herds and come out fine.
The simple solution is to place a growth caps, but since the community is gOnNa be butt hurt if that happens, stats should not be scaling past 1.2. Simple as that. The inherits and the extra talent points you receive when you get larger should be the only thing that individuals receive as a bonus for growing past 1.2
There won't be a cap with titania. It's pretty cool tho the get hungrier as you age. This will essentially leave a cap for those dinos since it will eventually become so difficult to feed. The gauntlet brings such a cool system to the game!
@@butchersblock Hasn’t that always been the case? Getting hungrier as you grow bigger I mean
@@Lethal_Giggles no not until titania. They say it's nearly impossible to survive at 4.0 due to the hunger drain
@@butchersblock I still think the growth cap should be 1.2 or the stats need to stop scaling at that point. The trials themselves is enough of a grind as it is
@@Lethal_Giggles let's see how it plays out. This is Bob 2.0 so much has changed
with Titania's release,an update to lurd and underwater bioms,and the possibility of archelon on the way BoB is slowly making a comeback.
Absolutely!!
@@butchersblock best part is...this map is already bigger than the others and its less then half its full size...once the rest gets released its going to make flying through the skies as a pterosaur that much more fun.
my only critisizm now is it lacks a minimap..if they add that when titania is finnished...and flesh out the underwater biom just a bit more then it will be perfect.
The Devs have Kill this game !
i agree on u that sometimes is so shit to play in a server with rules and some ppl dont care about rules and make a rb on u and is like ok then why does this have rules if a lot ppl dont care about it, but some times servers with body down, and have to contest for the pg are more funny that official and other servers without these rules and i can say that becuase i have played official, i played as lurd on ur server ( it was rlly funny) and i have played a lot servers with rules, and i offer to you to play with me in a server with rules ( only if you want) for show to you how it is if any one do a rulebreak
I appreciate it! I've played plenty on ruled servers and it's just not for me. I have a hard time finding excitement in waiting for gore to be gone just to be able to hunt again. I love the hunt and want to do it as much as possible. This is where Bob gameplay is the best! I just don't see any appeal to waiting. I'll be curious to see how the gauntlet impacts ruled servers with the hunger.
@@butchersblock yes i agree on that i hate to stay afk with gores as dinos like, velo, elasmo, when u hunt rex or mosa and hunt is the best thing of bob but some times play on official with no rules is stressful, u maybe are idk 1.8 acro and do 1vs2 coah 1.3 u play it so well and win with 100hp then a velo come and kill u is like ok i spend 3k hours on an acro for do a nice play and velo kill me
@@butchersblock as soon as one server dont have A TONS of rules it still can be good for new players but i also hate servers with too much rules
It’s also entirely unbalanced. Ichthy and Lurdu has been underpowered for several updates, and even got further nerfed whilst 5 roar 5 serrated acros bully entire servers
I e always seen icthy and lurds to be quite powerful. Perhaps not as a solo dino but as a group are very dangerous
bro lurd is extremely strong
@@pineapple8034 lurds annihilate for sure and they're very safe to play as well
lurdu is literally a better aquatic than the actual aquatics in the game 💀
@@butchersblock yea plus lurd is getting a remodel soon
I absolutely agree. I see a lot of these issues specifically on revive servers like
life finds a way.
thunder kingdom
whispering tomb
the list goes on.
This was made before titania but they brought back auto revive lol take one step forward to take 2 steps back>
1. Spawn
2. Spend 5 hours growing a 1.2 creature
3. Die to 3.0 ultra nested megapack clan in an unfair fight
4. Respawn, losing all progress.
5. Leave
Hey there's a server that's not on a version right after the tropeo patch with old scaling etc. Have u heard about it?
Whole video is nothing but facts bro, couldn’t have said it better myaelf
Thanks dude! Just wanted to share publicly to see if they actually do anything about it. When people are publicly held accountable sometimes something happens. Won't hold my breath tho lol
I doubt it, one thing I thought about and I actually disagree with tho; I think the majority of people interested in dinosaur games actually do enjoy combat more than chilling/growing/e-rp’ing, it’s just that they’re not vocal about it. In terms of bobs current community sure, but there really aren’t that many people playing bob anymore, lol. It’s just so saturated with rules and drama and admin abuse that it’s just not worth playing, like you said.
@@anomalocarisgaming8205 I can definitely agree with that. Squeaky wheels get grease and so far, only the sissy fluff cakes are getting the grease
Beyond the game review i remember that fight with the sai and apa. I was the Sai chasing ya down xD
Hahaha awesome! That was a great fight!
I stop playing Offical servers purely becouse a large amount of player was saying kill on sight was a Rule, i generally try and talk with new people ingames and even ask for help or be helpful in someway, but when Playing carnovore and need food i am still going to kill if i have to.
played a fair amount of tropeognathus but then a large Bird war happen and it was tropeo VS Ptera, so Kinda had to fight back.
I got 2 moble game ads form this
Lol wtf it's not monetized
The this is BoB isn't dying due to any of the devs fault its hte community. Its either toxic 14 year old edge lords who clan up and rule a server with an iron fist because they do nothing but afk grow or hyper sensitive people who play on servers that will get you banned for saying one slightly offensive thing. I'm not saying the game is perfect but the community being toxic and hyper sensitive makes no one wanna play the game as the both sides clashing makes this giant shit storm hell them existing turns me off. Officals dying was the last hope left for this game. The asian clans didn't help and honestly there is nothing you can do. Like you said you fight them they win get them banned they win. They just keep coming back. I've lost almost all my dinos on officals trying to bring them down. Hours of my life and hours of my friends life wasted on something that shouldn't even be a problem to begin with.
Honestly the game started dying when revives came and when big dinosaurs stopped looking big. Those are the 2 biggest mistakes they have done
I can't even tell if a dinosaur is 1.2 or 2.0 anymore. It's so stupid
If you mean auto revives I can understand, however perma death in this game specifically should never exist again.
@@Jorbinkles 🧠 💀
@@mojolmao1752 if they want perma death they need to get rid of ridiculous growth times/ nesting/ inherits. because the inherit system had such toxic clan mentality behind it and if you didn't have a group you were dead. so it was very unfriendly to beginners/ solo players seeing as the established players would kill anyone and everyone under those categories. that or you would be targeted if people knew your group, and you also had to keep your inherits under tight wraps etc; it was fucked back then.
@@Jorbinkles inherits werent nearly as strong in 2020
I like dinosaurs a lot, but this game has nothing to do or offer but walk around and make noises. Some aspects are very beautiful, but that's just it. A pretty dinosaur game.
The community is actually tolerable with very nice people. But they're all suffering from the same obsession. They're all completely FIXATED on the growth, breeding, and stats system.
I've seen individuals on for 15+ hours just afk-growing and breeding to have the best, prettiest and biggest dinosaur of their species on one specific server.
Because of its addictive attributes this game condones.
Yep, sadly this is the truth. I myself find I only play for these reasons nowadays and I wish this game wasn't built in such a way that that had to be the case. Even in the early days of the game, which a lot of people claim to miss, the growth system and perma death was a big issue. The endless growth is unique but it ultimately is what causes all these problems with this game.
Spitting straight facts.
Chill server players not only cry and complain when they get killed (Usually because they have no real combat experience) They're also a big enough percentage of the community that they _Heavily_ influence polls. This is an issue because they come in with the same cloned opinions tend to negatively impact the way the game is balanced. Especially since they outnumber the people who play the game as intended.
Gm
Great vid, what are your thoughts on the upcoming official Titania server?
I expect a majority of o2 to flock to it, Forest clan included, for that big arms race to who can be the next big group. I personally don’t have any interest yet, but at least players will have more options to choose from in terms of servers and stop whining about being killed and always found on O2’s tiny ass map
Any new map has potential to be great. Personally I feel rival shores was perfect for pvp engagements based around 100-150 people. Any larger and I feel it's very difficult to find people.
Content is content but I don't believe it will solve their major issues. I think it would be interesting having a server that wipes every few months so people can reset and have excitement of being the biggest.
@@butchersblock regular resets is something that is sorely needed in bob, but until the playerbase matures and relinquishes its attachment to individual dinos it will never happen...servers will just continue to birth, grow, stagnate and decline with none of the core issues getting sorted
@@cubey_doo players attachment to their dinos will never go away unless they shorten the growth span drastically. Which would also allow people to fill out trees faster etc
@@Jorbinkles Or they could implement a hard cap to force players to make dinos in a certain build and that build alone, instead of allowing a single one to have everything eventually- that way the gameplay niche is still there
I adorded this game originally. Used to play it as much as I could. Now I do not touch it whatsoever. I started to play it when had a leader board in it back then. I agree I miss perma death, it made it all the more exciting. I feel like it ruined the game once they implemented auto revives and resurrections. I also agree with your point how people like to be catered to the point of making the game abysmally boring. All I see now is chill, and auto revive servers left which is no fun. I just hope this new update with Titania brings back the core game play of survival.
Having played 2 tests now, I really believe it will! Titania is amazing. I just believe it will be boring on private servers do to the overabundance of rules
the only 3 reasons i havent tried and i am tempted to try is
1) the weird colors dinos can have aka neon green and stuff and kind of also the Graphic.
2) i saw some major unbalance where a tiny tiney micro raptor can kill a rex cause tailriding and Rex unable to bite the mini dino
3) eating crystals and bullshit which makes zero sense
i want to try tho but im really turned of from the super unrealistic colors
if you go into settings you can turn on a skin filter to make everyone's skins look natural..
@@ff0066spooky what the. really ? thats cool. how they do this ? Convert custom skins to some random realistic ones?
I always say if BoB had the same graphics look like isle or path then it would just destroy the others. One thing I always see people talk about is that BoB doesn't look as good as the others. For the most part it doesn't but at some points the game is just gorgeous
Yea plus the new map and upcoming remodels will put it on a whole new pedestal
Tbh I could never get into bob properly when I tried to play it long ago. Idk how people play it for hours upon hours.
whats funny is mixpacking happens in both the other games official servers, and no one is getting banned. the dumb enforcement for something that naturally happens in these types of games is prob why its dying. you want rules play in a community server. thats how it is in the other games idk why this one is so special
I love this game and i will play it until i am the last one to have it installed. I hope though that it dosen't come to that.
It's a hard game to let go
if they want to get pop on it again they will have to give us back our old bob old size and good shit cause the communty is kinda shit now alot of ppl became toxic before there was 1 alpha of ocean 1 alpha of earth 1 alpha of sky
Well #Backoldbob
There should not be a hierarchy in Bob, no "im the biggest" that stuff is toxic. The game was toxic back then, probably moreso back then than now.
honestly i love how you can revive your dinosaur, BoB wasnt suppose to be realistic in the first place. They just need to IP ban hackers, problem solved.
Steam won't allow ip bans so Bob can't do that unfortunately.
i can see why kids or whatever were threatening to kill themselves or hurt themselves, back on old growth it took maybe 200-400 hours dedication to get 2.0+ on the dino you liked.. let alone probably 100-300 hours renesting.
I think the game is better over all, way more fun, enjoyable, still a huge timesink and waster.
I find reincarns and autorevives helped encourage people to play their dinos more and even people like me (who prefered chill/revive servers before fast growth and reincarnate patch) People literally wanted to lynch the devs over small changes like size or apato being more accurate to real life fossils.
I feel like what kills the game is the incredibly painful and slow release of updates. It's gonna take them 2 fucking years just to rework and reanimate saichainia and pteradon, meanwhile pachy and acro still need it. and mosa and elasmo needs remodel and reanimation as well. With the pace they work at that would take fucking 3-4 years. its so slow good god. I know paying for good modelers and animators, coders, etc might not be within reason though.
also pointing out why most of these 2x servers die
they just give out free growth, constant fucking safezones, 24/7 growth storms, buyable playergores and growth storms.
and then the server dies in 1 month after everyones hit 2.0 and got bored.
like tf did they expect?? holy fuck sorna celestial thundering having a 48 hr event every fucking weekend dude. my god. people would literally grow to 2.0 during those events then be too scared to get on when there wasn't an event.
plus 2x means you dont need to invest as much time to a server just to find out the server owners a fucking pedophile or somehtin smh so needing to stick to a server isnt really a thing anymore so if servers treat their community like shit they just die
The last problem that should be on their list is the visuals. Visuals have NEVER been a strong point of BoB, but that's okay, because what matters most is the gameplay and they had a good formula going for them originally. It's only once terrible timesink mechanics that skew the community and solo players while overshadowing the rest of the game were added, and other gameplay hiccups, that the game completely fell to the wayside for most people.
I've never had a problem with the graphics. If anything it's performance. I could care less how presentable the dinosaur models are as long as the game is enjoyable.
Tbh at this point the only servers that have a good pop is chill servers, so many people have made pvp servers that never get popular, not like how servers used to be. It is true that clans and hackers have kinda been controlling servers for a while now. The more people on your side the more likely you'll live. I've been killed countless times and found myself really hating the pvp side of this game, due to most people being better at pvp then me or staff members of private servers admin abusing or not upholding the rules they made for thier server, along with having bias towards people they dont like or are friends with.
I've found myself playing on chill servers only now. I refuse to play official.
I'm actually going to make a whole series of tips and tricks to learn how to compete and get better at pvp! Check out the newest vid. Lots of info here for ya! It's not impossible!! Don't give up! ua-cam.com/video/e7KQBy5we1c/v-deo.html
If thats true about the killing themselves stuff, giving in to them did that oerson no favours in fixing their mental health issue, if anything it reinforced it.
Agreed and yes very true
game was funner the more unbalanced it used to be, the more they balance it the less fun it is lmao, no one plays bob for realism or balance
I think balance is great but I do think it's more fun when abilities are exaggerated. They should just nerf stats rather than fun abilities
I mean so tbh I know a handful of people are swapping over the old BoB 2020 version lol legit was showed it the other day an saw the TAB menu an saw sooo many people i use to know
Oh really? Is this a different steam version you can switch in the beta menu?
I suggest trying to join the life finda a way server, its the best server ive found it does have auto revives but i think most do now sense the whole new appeal is getting cool skins, glinding, nesting ect theres still battle gameplay like purge day with no rules (these days are fun) but yea its an overall more chill game tbh
I really despise auto revive haha. It takes nearly all survival aspect away from the game. Death and life means nothing with auto revive. Engagements don't feel meaningful anymore at that point. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Auto revive makes the game way too easy imo
all auto revive servers are terrible, its just either holding hands and singing kumbaya, or you slaughtered killed by a 10.0 rex that was ultra nested for the best inherits. the only way to become competitive in an auto revive server is when you afk, and that replaces the entire point of the game
Well with there only being 2 severs (Karma and LFAW) basically running the game there will most likely be no change in the way it’s played and no change in the way the community is… been about 4-5 months since I’ve played that game so I could be wrong but when I did play it was very toxic to play.
Things can definitely change if we voice our opinions! Leaving constructive criticism here is a great way to voice your opinion.
There’s only 2 problems with this game the soft community and massive Dinos which will always hold this game back
Heck Hastur never played on official at all
I also think that the game is dying. When I first started a few years ago I was very put off by Official servers, I didnt like having to contest as it took away any chance of ambushing something to push it off of its food without having to contest. The large players also put me off, I didnt like constantly running into huge dinos constantly when I kinda expected to be able to have a balance of decently sized dinos and fresh spawns running around. Currently I am playing a Chill server called Warless and have been in their community for a few years now, people spend so long growing their dinosaurs and are very proud of their growth, myself included. We have events constantly, alot of Hunts where people learn how to fight and test out their strength, we also have just some funny events like a Soccer event with dinos who do knockback and Basketball with fliers which is tons of fun.
All in all ive fallen more for a community I found in the game more than the game itself, I love the idea of the game but I feel it needs a few overhauls in fixing the bugs and also making the game look better in general.
Yeah no the community is a complete mess, they don't care about improving the game, they just want things to change to be in their favor or to maintain their silly status on the game or server. The game is also completely suffering from extreme sunken cost fallacy, to the point where it leads to crazy demands and suicide threats like you mentioned in the video. The fact that the game has infinite growth and growth is still time-based, ontop of inherits and how much these factor into your viability to play the game (ESPECIALLY SOLO), completely screwed the game and enabled such a dysfunctional community.
People like to argue that infinite growth is what makes BoB unique, but I disagree, because before infinite growth and inherits existed the game still had a very unique identity. I used to be a tester for the game from pre-alpha to steam EA release, and it's crazy seeing how the community changed and strangled the devs, especially because of some of these mechanics that enable them. The game used to have more of an emphasis on Player vs Environment, making it stand out as a PvPvE game compared to the likes of isle. But now it just seems to be the afk grow and grind inherit with a megaclan simulator, and it completely overshadowed anything else valuable about the game.
I hope Predatoria can one day just say he's satisfied with what he's gotten out of catering to this deranged community and just make some drastic changes that bring the game back to the original or at least a better vision, and not be worried about the community backlash. I know there are a lot of people that would probably come back and play it, or play it for the first time, if the game could be taken seriously. Right now it just can't be.
i really hope its not dying. its my favorite of the dino games, and the isle feels like pulling nails to me.
EDIT: okay i personally am someone who plays on ruled servers because, yes, im more of a casual player and i think its not bad to want a possibility to play the way it is fun to me. but i also think people who want to do a lot of pvp and dont like rules a lot should have a place to play where its fun for them. that said, im fairly dissappointed with how official are run these days.
Yeah it's definitely cool to play the way you want although I just feel like most of the private servers tend to turn people away with obsessive rules and put a bad taste in people's mouths that may be new or just regular players. The official servers seem to be overrun with rule breakers who can't seem to understand or follow a simple ruleset. This is why the game needs to get away from rules in general.
@@butchersblock im not sure if i agree with the rules being abolished in general. I prefer play on body down rule servers mainly bc it prevents KOS which has always turned me away from playing.
Peak Playercount this month has fallen below 2000 now, hasn’t gotten this low since 2020. The game is rotting, slowly but surely.
I use to love the game. Played it since it's release on steam up untill a couple months ago. They are running the game into the ground for sure. Now I'm just waiting for bob to get better or for the new dino game "isle of yore" to release more content.
did he say good graphics not sure about that
I honestly don't see what's wrong with them. They accurately display everything and looks fine. Btw Mario has 8 bit graphics yet is one of the best games of all time.
@@butchersblock agreed but i like the extra realistic graphics of path of titans to be honest put any of the three path of titans isle or beasts of bermuda ill play them ive only played path of titans cause i only have console and neither islr or beasts of bermuda is on console i still prefer path of titans because i like the mechanics and the way a dino will attack you and you overpower it and chase it down.
@@fanofwolves pot definitely has some realism. I actually thought paths graphics werent as good when it came down to the micro scale. Their new map gonda will blow everything out of the water tho. UE5 is so powerful
@@butchersblock ik right gondwa looks amazing and the adding of aquatics and water creatures will definitely increase the game’s potential. and the fact that the new map is named after the ancient landmass makes a dinosaur nerd like me happy most things involving dinosaurs do.
Besides server rules and the aotorevive BS etc. I personally think it's the hardcore unballanced dinos and this patch rn probably being the worst one yet. Acros are gods, apatos rework made it a mess, megars 100% percent inj backjumping away from rexes, ichty being fodder and the list goes on.
And I personally DESPISE the revive mechanic, the temples, the challenges, the secret eggs ALL OF IT, players get so hardcore encouraged to
max trials - reincarnate - get op broken dino - keep reviving
nothing is accomplished ppl grow dinos they don't wanna play, to revive a dino they don't wanna touch BeCaUsE they might die again, it just encourages the most PlayItSafe wait for friends, steam friends etc to play X dino, it's depressing, and the secret eggs just suck, something which used to be an easy way to get into a group, socialize get to know players, with the benefits of the parents growing faster/you getting good dino is now officially getting discouraged.
Devs just need to play the game, the game dies the moment the original devs stop playing their own game, they don't know what's wrong and try and fix things that didn't need fixing, nobody said they want revive mechanic, whenever someone died they usually say "it's part of the game" etc.
But this is enough, good video
Well you see laddie
The bob mod/admin team is absolute dogshit
the devs are ok, its mostly bad choice in moderation but
mix that with incredibly childish community that wants a chill server as an entire game and you get what we have
Any and all actual critisism is claimed as "Disrespecting the mods" so you cannot even suggest they get new ones, due to being muted or banned from the disc for being "Disrespectful"
Yeah disrespect should be removed from chat rules everywhere because it's entirely subjective.
i used to enjoy official servers but the community killed the server themselves by making large disgusting mixpack groups. they nolife the server and afk grow till they're 2.0 and run around wiping other players. this is the reason I moved to ruled servers and many other aswell (I'm looking at you snowy mountain players on official server #2)
I just take them out solo😜
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will you be playing the isle
I may if they deliver more content. I've played a little and enjoyed it.
Do you happen to own a PoT server called primal?
Nope that's not us
I personally think that you got a lot of your reasoning wrong in this video. The core problems are right, but servers catering to people who just don't want to challenge themselves and get everything handed to them? I think you should ask yourself where that stems from. If you're constantly faced with super-nested 3.0-4.0 dinos that instantly kill your dinos, no matter how hard you work and try and grow, would you really still want to invest 200 hours to grow to 1.5 and then still get your ass handed to you on a silver plate by yet another clan doing super-nesting? The Isle doesn't have that problem with "soft server rules catering to people who don't want to work for it", because you essentially don't have the problem of absolutely overpowered dinos slaughtering you the second they see you. You know exactly what you're going to fight and if two adult Gigas fight, it actually comes down to turning and skill rather than "My Rex is 3.0 and has 5/3 in all talent trees so your 1.2 spawn Rex is going to be my fodder." I think you need a wider view...
I've killed so many over sized dinos with 1.2s. it takes patience and skill but it can happen often
@@butchersblock I agree, but you're not the average player. The player base currently consists of toxic clans or casual players, and casual players usually aren't able to do that due to the aforementioned reasons. Which basically kills the fun for them.
@@choraki I love that the skill ceiling is high though. It makes me feel accomplished as a veteran player and when I was new, the challenge to get closer to the top felt awesome! There are enough games that aren't challenging out there. I really appreciate a game that can challenge your movements and your strategy.
@@butchersblock That is true! The skill gap between average players, clans, and veterans is quite huge, and reaching the point where you achieved such coordination and strategic planning is wonderful. For that, I actually envy you. Keep up the great work!
Personally I agree that most servers are the same sorta gameplay loop, with anything new kinda not getting touched nor supported. It's okay to be a casual, competitive, or chill player. The game is honestly the best for chill players, as you actually gain something for growing on that dino. It's rewarding to see that ''3.0'' growth, and to be that big dino just walkin' around.
New servers on BoB are immediately at a disadvantage, even moreso than TI or PoT, the problem of not wanting to move servers. Just as an example, why play on Primal when O2 is right there, a server (as a competitive player) you'd probably already have something on, as well as a more stable pop. Regardless of better staff and removal of hackers, the dinos you have and player interaction make the game.
I think these are all mostly the base game's fault, and that removing some of a server owner's power wouldn't really fix it. You can't turn off mix species invites because you need them for events, you can't convice BoB to remove the inherit system, or infinite growth.
However, to me the solution would be to give server owners way more control. The ability to turn off reincarnations and revives, change how many inherits you can have, change the amount those inherits impact, etc.
The server I'm currently on doesn't allow revives or reincarnations, so it keeps that intense feeling during combat.
Sadly though, these niche communities don't get much attention, even though it could really work if people just consistently played them.
Its the community thats the problem the game is not the issue. Good game shit communities everywhere. Theres no point in playing becuase the servers that are avalible are stricken with admin abuse.
Absolutely! I agree 100%
You still play bob right?
unfortunately i do not anymore.
@@butchersblock Oh
Your server was fucking amazing dude but we never died and the people that are less pvp focused did so ig that turns people away
i really appreciate that!
Most servers are "chill" or "autorevive" servers now. Absolute fucking bullshit. Community has always got to ruin everything. First TI with pay2win bullshit and now autorevive LOL. It's like buying CoD but you you're not allowed to shoot..?
Yeah auto revive encourages pvp but the engagements are MUCH less meaningful. I wish perma death would come back
@@butchersblock No adrenaline at all when you're fighting on autorevive
@@mojolmao1752 oh man I miss the adrenaline rush!! Bob was the first game that has happened to me. Amazing that a game can do that to you.
@@butchersblock The devs will do whatever will bring in the most money. You can't blame them for that but it sure is a shame
@@mojolmao1752 I think it's just turns people away TBH.
I've also stopped but the future of b.o.b. is grim I don't wanna spend hours playing the game growing just to die to nonsense in my book the isle evrima is becoming way better than Bob it's movement system is way better than Bob an tbh Bob is dying there's like 2 servers that are left dying game in my book
Yes it is. the devs don't Do anything helpful they dont release regular updates they don't do dev blogs and they don't listen to the community, someone i know made a suggestion which got 600+ upvotes and they took one look at it and said No without considering it. they removed one off the main features people played BoB for which was growing to huge sizes and they nerfed size/models so much.
Pls say that’s a joke about it being the best Dino game path of titans and the isle is much better with graphics and this game ur playing looks trash 😂
I disagree. It's merely a different style of graphics. They are all great!
It's really not that complicated, most game have to cater to a core and hardcore audience to properly thrive.
And people are core for many different reason within life it's not some weak mindset shit lmao.
If you barely have time in your life and you try raising a dino to a decent size and aren't a lurd good luck with that.
Generational thought process within gaming has been the same since the get go as well, nothing has changed and it's not that deep.
I can't tell you how many overgrown dinos I've killed with just a 1.2 adult. Every dino has a weakness. I definitely disagree about the generational thought process. People are far more entitled than they used to be. I mean sure some games can pick certain audiences but the problem is starting out hardcore survival and switching to soft dino hangout. Why make the switch? Maybe more people will join the game? That thought is ok if it actually draws a crowd but fact is that the games been on a steady decline since the Rex update and isn't exactly getting any better.
"If you barely have time in your life and you try raising a dino to a decent size and aren't a lurd good luck with that." - and this is what will kill BoB in the long run because why would anyone want to buy and invest in this game with no balance vs. the hardcore base? monthly average users is declining steadily despite regular updates because other games offer the PvP experience with a lower time investment. it will just result in $$$$ loss for the devs
@@butchersblock the reason is because people are forced to put thousands of minutes on a dino. Even if you can kill big dinos as a 1.2, that is not always the case and its just a suicidal playstyle. So ofc people play it safe until they're big. The growth system is what kills this game. If it wasn't so drawn out, you wouldn't have people so attached to their dinos. People being so attached to their dinos is why some of these community problems exist anyways.
only reason why its the best dino game out there is because has flyers and aquatic the isle roaster isnt even finished so with other mechanics path of titans just trash but the game is dying indeed
This game is no where near evrima lol
Games meant to be play for display of skill? If only you started your video with this sentence... you would spare a solid 15 minutes for me :D
Ofc games requer a set of skills and you can imrpouve said skills but they are meant to be play for having fun. :D You definetly can having fun buy improuving your gameplay, but maaaaaaaaaybe you can having fun by other ways too.
Probably most of the players can't take seriously that tryharding thing in a game about dinos [especially about rainbow colored dinos... :D ] it's kinda like tryharding in a fishing game.
Actually you have all the informations you needed to didn't make a ridicoulus statment like this.: U had a server, it faild cuz wast majority of the playerbase won't share your thoughts of "having fun" in BoB, and those who are want to play like you simply don't had anyone to play with in the end.
So... nope games in general not meant to be play for "display of skill" [asd...], and as you can see BoB also not meant to be for this, or at least the playerbase doesn't want to play the game in that way.
can someone give me a tldr
The education system has failed again
@@butchersblock what
@@speedmixcb tldr: The community's decision bent the game to its will.
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 oh, thanks
i thought it gonna be another typical for these videos ''i got into personal drama so the game is dying''
@@speedmixcb mixed with personal opinion
Yeah BOB is def dead for now