Imagine having to fly to Afganistan, surviving the whole war with your comarade, coming home and after a few years, you have to face your brother-in-arms as an enemy.
@@kak42 you didn't even get it did you ?? whatever choice he made he would die anyways if he disobeyed the orders they would find him and kill him so welp he'd rather die fighting
@@kak42 You think a soldier has the right to choose what orders he follows and what orders he disobeys? A real soldier follows every order word for word, even when he knows these orders will get him killed. Yes, Jelcin was a drunkard and an idiot, just like the rest of the high command of the Russian army, but that doesn't change the fact that this is what soldiers do, they follow orders.
@@milanvondrich9749 Tools, lackeys, servants. That's who "follow orders". Soldiers fight for something they believe in. Aushwitz guards were "just following orders" too then. How neat!
@@cheekibreeki9818 And they will die like soldiers. Just as the Russians in Ukraine fertilize the gold fields of wheat now. Surrender is the only way to survive when your commanders use you as Cannon fodder.
Yeah it broke me how much he was begging for them to not waste their life, but what could they do. If they retreated they'd probably be punished severely.
I think we don't understand how important this "meme" is. It actually give remembrance of terrible events and it help future generations to discover them so that we'll never forget what happened
@@RealNotallGaming It has the potential to, but we always think the slight differences outweigh the immense similarities. "Well yeah, that happened then and it was awful, but our situation is different because (blah blah)." It's not different, and we're never going to truly realize that, so the lessons of our histories are moot.
I have translated it in full. Chechen -- "Alik, come on, maybe somehow before it's too late, turn your guys back. Don't do this. Don't do it, it is not needed. In any case understand that you will perish and I will perish. What will be the point of that? Understand for yourself, who would win from this? Neither of us will win, understand? If I see you, it will be in battle... and then whether it is excellent for you or not excellent for you, I will not show you pity just as you would not to me, understand? It's better you come to me as a guest. Turn back your guys. There is no need. Have pity on their mothers. Have pity on them. Turn back your guys. Give the command." Russian -- "I'm not such a big commander to give such orders." Chechen -- "Alik, please understand correctly.. I, for example... to you from my heart, purely wish that you stayed alive of course but... you better get away." Russian -- "And I don't have that choice. I have an order and I will fulfill it in any case." 1:37 - Borya! Borya! ... Borya stop, fuck! 1:40 - So stop it fuck, eleventh, over. 1:43 - Lyosha, I'm on the edge of life... BMPs burned out of action. 1:47 -Squad 11, this is squad 10. 1:51 - Squad 11, fuck, listen to me, this is not bullshit, we're all gonna die. We need a concrete decision made to evacuate. 1:59 - Artillery is too close.. it's too close! Fuuck... close... under my ear! Under my ear you guys are firing! [own artillery landing him on] 2:06 - [unintelligible] 2:10- [unintelligible] how are you [unintelligible] 2:14- Two cars [BMP]. Two cars made it though. Need to platform, fuck, to the platform! 2:18 - [unintelligible] Between 1:51-1:58 I had to fill in a few words that I assume or think were being said. That was the hardest part to translate. The other sections I marked as "unintelligible" so maybe someone else can help me out with those. The music in the video makes it hard to hear what is being said in those sections.
Alik (Ivan Savin) Died while trying to evacuate the few remaining survivors of his 1000 men. While Turpal Atgeriyev, the man begging was seized from a Russian airport, falsely accused for the 2nd Chechen war which he had no involvement and suspected to have died from torture at the age of 33. May these men rest in peace and may the men that brought them to this tragedy suffer their rightful judgement.
@@deusexaethera They were never friends to begin with, otherwise they wouldn't have turned guns against each other. Maybe the other side considered another a friend but it obviously was never truly mutual. I'm not surprised by stories like this at all since I don't see any of my friends as life long friends anymore. They stop being my friends and I start despising them the moment they start bullshitting over the land of my ancestors, my nation, and my language! Such people are nobody's friends! They are their own enemies!
@@Lipanj92 what the fuck are you saying mate? Being friends doesn’t mean your willing to give up your duty or job for them. Your taking the meaning of friends way too far 😂😂.
According to an article, Alik was Ivan Savin, a Russian Colonel who sent 1,000 of his men to what I think would have been the Central railway station to capture it. As heard in this clip a Chechen commander Turpal Ali Atgeriyev tries to console with Alik in an attempt to stop the attack. Alik refused because he was under orders and the attack went underway. While the battalion secured the perimeter with vehicles, a radioman heard the words 'Welcome to hell' on his headset before the battalion was attacked with automatic and RPG weapons fire. Alik called for support multiple times with his friends on the line inside the station building but nothing came. With most of the 1,000 he died fighting. copied from original video.
That's pretty fucking brutal, but you can't say he wasn't warned. War never ceases to be the worst thing imaginable, no matter who's fighting it or why.
@@c4ns3r53 our military is so 4ucking corrupted and our people is so zombie, that If tomorrow Putin will say that he is a furer and we are nazi russia, I'm 4ucking sure the half of the country will support this.
@@c4ns3r53 to tell you more - federals was attacke all the way to Grozny, because someone in HQ just sold planned path of the army units. And they was ordered to not change it. Only general Rochlin was not obey this order
My russian dad was in the Chechen war. He was a minesweeper. They were climbing up a ladder, he was in front and he stepped with his left foot, but the guy behind him stepped with his right foot, he stepped on a mine and his leg blew up. They drove with him to the emergency room, but he died of the blood loss. My dad said, like some higher force or God himself saved him for the future. He has a medal from that war, he is still alive and well.
You can hear the pain in chechen commander's voice, he knew Alik and his men will be wiped out if they attacked. Talking to your friend before killing him is so heartbreaking
During the American Civil War, a naval commander bombarded a Confederate (Rebel) coastal fortification. After a very long fight, the fort lowered it flag and signaled that the flotilla commander should come ashore to accept the surrender of the garrison. The Admiral came ashore, to find that that the commander of the garrison had been mortally wounded. The commander of the garrison turned out to be his own son, and he gave his sword to his father and then died in his arms.
@@c1n1kdtm50 Deceived about the Chechnya war? It didn't even involve the west! All of this information comes from Russia, and was part of their appeal for healing between the Chechnyan and Russian people after two bloody Civil Wars and a forced reannexation of the province. What part of this do you think is deception?
This is the most emotional, dramatic and saddest thing I have seen in a while. It hits so hard, especially after 1:35, where with beginning of hard rock starts the plea of Russians for help; "Borya, Borya stop!!!" , "I'm wounded, the vehicle is destroyed", "We are all gonna fucking die, it's not a joke you understand? We need quick help". That part should have been transtaled too, but it hits in different way when you understand all that without subtitles
man i am Indian so i cant understand it , but even i could dissect the feeling from this video . what do think about the , i have my order and i will follow them line
I don't think much of anything could compare to the heartbreak of a situation like this. You're willingly going to your death because you are duty-bound to your nation, but the ones you will be fighting to the death are men you know, who you've served with, laughed with, suffered with. What a horrible, ugly, heart wrenching situation.
@@totallylegitenergy2559 Idk what you refer to, 70s wasn't the year discrimination magically ended against visible minorities. The narrative of this video is exploiting the tragic fate of the Chechen and conflating it with the ignoble decision by the Russian to continue following his empire's orders ...The reverse would have NOT been possible. But you guys don't want to go there, either out of lack of insight or honesty.
@@BoqPrecision do you really insist on bringing political correction to everything? I mean this has absolutely nothing to do with the way black people are treated in america. Racism isnt just in america you know
@@eddiestevens8193 You're not even making sense, just throwing around buzz words and contradicting (and making my point) in the end. Chechens were and are not treated equally in Russia with ethnic Russians. They're even called blacks as a derogatory remark. If you have something to contribute by all means I'm ready to have dialogue...buy otherwise keep your emotional outbursts and not thought out sentiments to yourself.
@@nokokusovai4415 Lambada is his nickname and his real name is ali adaev. If you understand russian this video is about him: ua-cam.com/video/CNRNbBf5yp8/v-deo.html
The complete story is here : Mid-afternoon, the first battalion of the 131st MRB occupied the train station. Because of the radio black-out, they were unaware of the 81st MRR's situation. They separated from the second battalion from the freight station to the west, and from the third battalion on the outskirts of the city. The unit parked their tanks and armored personnel carriers around the station to wait for orders, around which time Chechen security minister Turpal-Ali Atgeriyev, who had served alongside Russian commanding officer Colonel Ivan Alekseevich Savin prior to the encounter and was worried about bloodshed on both sides (likely concerned for the safety of his old friend), extended a desperate plea to Savin (nicknamed Alik by Atgeriyev in the brief communication), proposing a negotiation for Savin to "withdraw his men and come to him as a guest", an offer which the latter had no choice but to reject due to having insufficient permission to call a ceasefire. Sometime after, a Russian communications officer heard the words "Welcome to Hell" on his headset. Shortly after, Chechen defenders in the depot buildings, the post office, and the five-story building surrounding the station opened devastating automatic and anti-tank fire. The surviving Russian troopers took cover inside the station, then the Chechens completed their ambush by setting it on fire. Colonel Savin radioed for help and artillery fire, but help never arrived Most distress calls from the 131st went unanswered. The second and third battalions of the brigade responded to the call for help, but were caught in layered ambushes before reaching the station. Both battalions were ordered to stay away from the Presidential Palace; this added to the trouble as the armored columns turned into alleyways, only to be destroyed by more of the layered ambushes.[7] After a small element of the 503rd Motor Rifle Regiment received orders to move during the early hours of the day, they immediately received friendly fire from the other Russian forces bogged down under heavy fire; they fought each other for six hours (there were many more such incidents, some of them organized by the Chechens). The 8th Corps reached the city center from the north, but were unable to save the units fallen into the ambush. No Russian reinforcements reached the railway station. At sundown, Colonel Savin decided to evacuate the wounded via the only working armored personnel carrier. After loading forty wounded troopers, the APC moved in the wrong direction (toward the center of the city). It eventually turned around to retreat along the same route, but was ambushed by Chechen anti-tank gunners; thirteen of the crew and passengers survived to be taken prisoner. On 2 January, Colonel Savin and his remaining officers abandoned the railway station. They found some abandoned Russian armored personnel-carriers. They attempted to escape, but were attacked by Chechen fighters. Savin died on the street from air-burst shrapnel beside his wrecked vehicle.[7] By 3 January, the 131st Brigade lost nearly 789 men killed (another 75 were captured, and only 160 reached safety), including almost all of their officers. In addition, twenty of twenty-six tanks and 102 of 120 other armored vehicles were lost. The entire Maikop Brigade of over 1,000 men was wiped out in sixty hours.[7] During this debacle, General Grachev proclaimed "the entire city centre and several districts of the city and its outskirts are under complete control of Russian forces". Source: Wikipedia, Battle of Grozny (1994-1995), Central Railway Station.
Goddamn, Russians really are animals. Any other western country that would have led to massive reforms and stripped down of ranks and even massive protests against whoever dumbass led to that conflict. But no in Russia, government sees people as meat to be grinded to further whatever their imperialistic aim is…. Chechens weren’t safe, Georgians weren’t safe, Ukrainians weren’t safe, Russian citizens aren’t also safe. Yet people just stay quiet obediently - waiting for their sons to be drafted while they watch Channel 1 - the best channel - which is also a government channel lol
On the part of the militants, the famous field commander Ali Adayev negotiated. Shamil Basayev's right-hand man and henchman, the chief of staff of the notorious Abkhazian battalion, who went through the Abkhazian war together with Shamil II. Ali Gadaev was known in Chechnya by the nickname Lambada - according to one version, when he was traveling to Abkhazia, in Stavropol in the KMV area, his car was stopped for inspection by traffic cops. However, an armed Ali pointed a machine gun at them and forced them to dance a lambada at gunpoint... Basayev considered Adayev one of the most promising and knowledgeable of his henchmen. Together they fought against the opposition of Umar Avturkhanov and Beslan Gantamirov in the autumn of 1994. The question of establishing Alik's identity is quite complicated. Who he was exactly, meant only "Lambada", who took this secret with him to the grave. The main version says that this is someone from the officers of the legendary 131st Motorized Rifle Brigade, who stormed Grozny on New Year's Eve-1995. But it was definitely not her commander - the commander who fell to the death of the brave was called Ivan Savin. And his call sign was "Caliber-9". It is assumed that Alik is the commander of the reconnaissance company of the Maykop brigade Oleg Tyrtyshny. Alas, he also fell in that New Year's assault on Grozny. But it has not yet been possible to prove one hundred percent that it is Oleg Petrovich's voice. By the way, I advise you to take less information from Wikipedia. A thoroughly hypocritical website that introduces misinformation and is edited for the benefit of its owners.
I’m obsessed with this video. The desperate pleading in the Chechnyan man’s voice. The knowledge that Alik likely knew he was not going to make it out but had to obey orders. The desperate pleas over the radio when they’re inevitably ambushed. The thought of these men dying in a cramped APC. It’s unreal.
Had to? This is why I don't like soldiers...this hollow sense of duty that doesn't equate to defending the countrymen but instead means following your superior's orders is what causes the most misery throughout history
@@alexandrualex1085 пролистай ниже, там есть комментарий почти со всеми сообщениями после диалога, в основном они сообщают что попали в засаду и подбиты, матерятся и просят подкрепления
Alik was executing orders, he was not "obeying" them. The subtitles make him sound like a victim, but he is actually quite assertive. He is a commander after all.
Holy shit, I was not expecting to be hit that hard. Even though I don't know their language, you can just tell the pain and desperation in the first man's voice. Pleading with his friend not to throw away his life or the lives of his men. And to have "Alik" respond with a quiet resignation...knowing he has no choice. Knowing that his and his men's lives were already forfeit...
"Have pity for their mothers". Little did they know that soon enough some of those mothers would be receiving VHS tapes of their sons being castrated, using addresses they found on letters home. The sheer cruelty that both sides inflicted on each other in Chechnya was unimaginable.
In last moments of "Alik's" speech, he is calmly saying "Squad eleven, this is squad ten, listen to me this is not some bulshit, we all gonna die here - so think , think, we need concrete decision to be made to evacuate us". As person who can speak 3 languages, I feel sad for people as you wont be able to understand emotion in his words...
Despite nonsense comments to this video, his opponent Ali Adaev (" Lambada" his nickname) died in the same fight... Through radio recordings you can hear how Alik is begging for immediate help, in response he received "we got you, we doing all we can" - unfortunatly this is just a response to calm and lift moral of soldiers - nobody was coming.
The sad thing is, his fate was pretty much sealed. It was either follow orders and walk into death's doors, or retreat and face the harsh consequences. We need a new leadership standards worldwide.
@@manofculture8666 won’t happen until the old gens (or boomers as we say) all die off and the current “young generation” get into power. But the future is blurry atm because most young people are against politicians so don’t want to get into politics for this exact reason (how crazy the current leaders are)
@@LoserKidMusic believe me. The ruling class is unaffected by generations, generational differences between plebs has no effect on them, they will stay the same
I hate how little modern history is discussed in public school it’s crazy how there are earth shaking conflicts that we don’t talk about there consequences and what happens to each side
because it does not happen in the West, that's why. The Chechen war and the invasion in Georgia in 2008 should both be discussed more. Sadly, it is only when something happens at our doorstep that we will be taught about it.
Speak for yourself, I had a history class about the Chechen war. But it's true that a lot of modern conflicts aren't discussed too much simply because they are not really over yet, or it would be a history class from which you don't extract principles but just the story itself. It's not just simply because it doesn't happen in the West, because you can bet your ass that the Western richer countries have something to do with most wars around the globe.
Imagine being forced to fight against who you consider to be your friends, your family, who you shared and had many memories. You don't know what to do, give up on your humanity or your duty as a soldier for your nation
my uncle told me a story about his experience with having a friend on the other side. "A friend of mine was in New york some 20 years ago. it was 1999. I was a street cop, on my last patrol. my partner and I were called to respond to a break in. we hurried to the address and get out of the car just in time to see the perp in a mask, holding a gun on the home owner and his girlfriend. I hollered for him to stop and turn. he turned to me and my heart dropped. 'John?' I knew that voice. I served with him in The Gulf War. it was my old squad mate, Marco. My partner saw me hesitate and put 2 and 2 together. 'you know this guy?' I could only nod. my partner hollered once more for him to stop, and drop the gun. Marco.. he turned to shoot my partner, and I reacted. before I could process what happened, my sidearm was up and firing. one in the neck, one in the chest. It took a moment to sit and realize what I'd just done.. and when I did, I crumpled to the ground, numb. my partner tried to understand why I was so broke up over it after the fact, and didn't get it until I showed him a photo of Marco and I with our platoon. he knew then. I spent the next few years agonizing over it. Marco's wife and son... never looked at me the same way again. who could blame them? I took away a husband, and a father. to this day.. I almost wish I hadn't pulled the trigger. but if I hadn't, my partner might have died... in the end, I retired from the force after just 6 years. I find myself wondering every now and then, 'what made him turn to crime?'.. I suppose I'll never know." he died days after my 19th birthday. This reminded me of him, and what he once told me. thanks for reading one man's post. we'll never see each other in person, dear reader, but I hope you have a wonderful life. - o7
Despite the badsituation, I think and feel you did the right thing, however painful. I hope that you found inner peace over this and if not, that you will find it soon. To serve and protect and you protected as your duty required. I wish you a lot of great days ahead in a fruitful long life.
So to explain what happened in this clip is that: The person who is begging Alik, who is a Russian Liteunent Colonel, to not attack is Lambada, a Chechen General from the Chechen war, now why is that? Well because these two men were actually brother in arms in the war of Afghanistan of 1979, they both fought together and survived the war and returned home to Russia, or in that time, the USSR, and then 3 years after the collapse of the USSR in 1991, the Chechen war began, and these 2 very close friends who spent years fighting with each other, suffered together, laughed together and joked together were now suddenly enemies, and Lambada is begging Alik to not attack as he doesn't want to fight and kill his friend, so, Alik, was in a tough decision, he really wanted to stop the attack, but he couldn't bare to think about disobeying his countries orders, and he attacked, with 1000 men, he died in the battle of Grozny, his 1000 men died as well, only a few men lived to tell the story of these 2 men.
@@keithsimpson2150 yep it's funny how a slave army will obey its new conquer without question. After they have killed its leaders and obliterated it's home.
@@william6072 they literally bombed the cities flat and rebuilt them with stolen money and put in their own government in charge of everything, just getting richer and richer. The people who opposed them were killed and classed as terrorists. These were just regular civilians who wanted to live in peace just like today's Ukrainians. Millions escaped south. The rest sadly died and got there land taken and all army and such were taken over by Russia. The checnyans land was extremely rich just like Ukraine is.
The dialogue is between colonel Ivan Savin of the 131st motor brigade (nicknamed Alik by his father-name Aleksey, a lot of Chechens knew russian commanders personally because they used to serve together few years earlier in the Caucasus district) and unidentified Chechen commander (most probably Turpal-Ali Atgeriyev) just after Colonel Savin with his brigade took Railway Station. Chechens ask him to leave and come back as a guest and to show mercy to his troops' mothers. Later you can hear Savin asking for artillery support, reinforcements and later agony and cry for help after the station was stormed by Chechens from nearby buildings with grenade launchers and mortars. Savin and almost 90% of his brigade dies with all the equipment and armored vehicles (also due to friendly artillery fire). By mid-afternoon, the first battalion of the 131st MRB occupied the train station, unaware of the 81st MRR's situation and separated from the second battalion which reached the freight station further to the west, and from the third battalion on the outskirts of the city. The unit parked its tanks and armored personnel carriers around the station and awaited further orders. Somewhere within that period of time, a Russian communications officer heard the words "Welcome to Hell," on his headset. Shortly after, Chechen fighters, hiding in the depot buildings, the post office, and the five-story building surrounding the station, opened devastating automatic and anti-tank fire. The surviving Russian soldiers took cover inside the station, which the Chechens soon set ablaze. Russian commanding officer Colonel Ivan Savin radioed for help and artillery fire, which never came. Most distress calls from the 131st went unanswered. The second and third battalions of the brigade responded to the call for help, but were blasted at close quarters before even reaching the station. Both battalions were ordered to stay away from the Presidential Palace; this only added more to the trouble as the armored columns tried cutting down alleyways, only to be further cut down by ambushes.[6] When a small element of the 503rd Motor Rifle Regiment finally received their orders to move in during the early hours of the day, they immediately came under friendly fire from the other Russian forces already bogged down under heavy fire; they fought each other for six hours (there were more such incidents reported, some of them actually prepared by the Chechens). The 8th Corps reached the city center from the north but was unable to save the units that had fallen into the trap because of stiff resistance. No reinforcements ever reached the railway station. At nightfall, Colonel Savin decided to evacuate the wounded via the only working armored personnel carrier available. After loading 40 wounded soldiers on board, the APC moved in the wrong direction (toward the center of the city). It turned around and was ambushed by Chechen anti-tank gunners; only 13 soldiers survived to be taken prisoner. On January 2, Colonel Savin and his remaining officers abandoned the railway station. They found some abandoned armored personnel carriers and attempted to escape the area, but were attacked by Chechen fighters and Savin died on the street from shrapnel wounds beside his wrecked vehicle.[6] By January 3, the 131st Brigade had lost nearly 789 men killed (another 75 were captured, and only 160 reached safety), including almost all of its officers. In addition, 20 of 26 tanks and 102 of 120 other armored vehicles were lost as well. The entire Maikop Brigade of over 1,000 men had been wiped out in sixty hours.[6] At the same time, General Grachev announced that "the entire city centre and several districts of the city and its outskirts are under complete control of Russian forces". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994-95)
*"I don't have any choice.I have orders and I'll have to obey them"* Maaan,that sucks😢 It has become a habbit of mine to randomly return to this video now 😢
Möge Allah Azzawajal deine Familie mit dem Paradies belohnen. Möge Allah Azzawajal die Sünden deiner Familie vergeben. Möge Allah Azzawajal dich mit deiner Familie in Jannah Vereinen. Ameen Ya Rabb.
Согласен ❤ Всем, кто припоминает войну или гордиться этим, лучшего точно не желаю Очень много у меня друзей чеченцев, все дружелюбные и здравые парни, от которых 0 негатива
@@ilikedoggos2771 It's happening now and it will happen again if Putin decides he wants to shrink his population again by a few million by attacking Nato.
The Chechen commander was very charismatic. "its better if you come to me as a guest" "have pity for your guys (and their mothers)" "from my heart I wish that you survive this"
So many of you have issues even with reading comprehension... The Chechen and the Russian who talked on the radio were both veterans of Soviet army from Afghanistan war, they were brothers in arms and friends and now found themselves on opposing sides.
It is just false Chechens are warlike or radical people, they are actually very hospitable and friendly similar to Turkic people around them who heavily influenced them for centuries. But similar as those Turkic people if you invade their country and threaten their people you can expect the worst as they will literally do everything to defend them. It was Russians who made a deal with the worst/most radical Chechens out there aka kadyrov faction to suppress an independence movement and kadyrov faction is actually more hated than Russia by most Chechens...
@@x4n0n10 that is what 12 million ukrainians will be experiencing once we defeat them. For god sakes don't give civilians weapons, conscript and train them for god sakes! Zelensky is a fool for doing such foolish move. You don't arm untrained civilians.
@@romanianturk2101 Tell this to your glorious shit stain of a leader Putin. Because he is sending young boys who are not trained and are working as teachers and such.
as a chechen i come back to this video often, watched the views increase from like 10k to 5 million almost 6 million now wow. many of my mothers brothers and my fathers family members have died in this war, may allah grant them jannah
I also come back to this video every few months since war in Ukraine has started. Everytime I see it, it breaks my heart more and more and more. I'm sorry for your lost.
same, so many casualties in this war almost every Chechen now got close relatives that were martyred. makes it hard to be forgiving and forgetting even tho it's not rational..
@@Viper4ever05 they didn't know it was a lost cause, troops on the ground basically had 0 intel, commanders in HQ lied to them and gave unreasonable orders. There were many different divisions, brigades and regiments, so if he refused to comply with orders he would risk the whole operation and the lives of everyone else. His brigade wasn't even supposed to attack anything, they didn't have any tasks, they were just a support, but for some reason they were given an order to attack the railway station...
There is a terrible sadness in such scenes. You cannot look away; you REFUSE to look away...because somewhere in your heart it feels disrespectful to the dead to avert your gaze.
the video really hits me hard when you hear the story of how those young boys charred to a crisp in compact IFV's. it just really gets me more than anything else
I’m a guy who surfs a lot in the internet and I saw a lot of messed up things out there, but these lines between these two men(I’m able to speak russian) hitting me so hard and putting me out of my current situation. Maybe because I’m able to understand them without subtitles.
“Please, I want us both to survive.” “Have mercy for their mothers.” “I don’t have a choice, I have orders.” This brings a tear to the eye. War creates something that is beautiful at times, human union. Even though what happens during it is the complete opposite. Some of these gems will be remembered for years or decades to come. Maybe not centuries but it will leave a mark for the future. And maybe that mark will help change it.
@@BigBoss1R Don't say this as if they went there with red in their eyes. You may serve the military, but you don't have to follow their ideas. But you do have to follow their orders and kill when it comes to your survival. The enemy fights to survive, you and your brothers-in-arms fight to survive. It's a cycle of violence that ends with "peace treaties" made by people that were far and safe from the war. But not until innocent people and soldiers have lost their lives. I would kill people if I was on the battlefield. My survival, the survival of my brothers-in-arms and the wellbeing of my friends is more important than the guy in my crosshairs. And it would be the same for him.
You will definitely put it on your forehead and arm, rape lover, adorators of the antichrist and his red lens flare eye, alongside your others satan's sleeves. Especially your friends who loves to imply that "this is human nature" and therefore people's that are not like this are "non human".
Absolutely annoying that you try to find romantic situations in war! It ain't the slightest part romantic be that assured! My adoptive mother only spoke one time over the time she had to flee in WW II. No detail at all! Just too personal. 1989 I have seen a family leaving their Skoda, on the side of the road, and running with two little kids. Second Prague Spring. And you can't imagine how fast they ran... Military soon behind roaring. Maybe not shooting because of German pupils. The look of fear on the face of the Mother, is really best described with our German wird Angst. I guess you are quite young. But pls leave the romantic BS aside out of any war. Speak English to some of the Ukraine refugees in Germany, or Kurds, Afghan people, Syria, Jemen, Ugandans... or any language you get along with. Human unite is the ultimate goal, we can't achieve if the leaders don't let us. And a leader who doesn't give a Fog about your life, is nobody to follow at all.
@@horscanigunger5098 говоришь правду, война у людей должна ассоциироваться с кучей горящих трупов, расчленёнкой, военными преступлениями, мёртвыми детьми. Поражаюсь дегенератам, которые хотят войны, при этом они не рвутся на фронт, а ведут интернет-войны вскликами о томчто Россия или Украина проигрывает в войне. С анархией у школьников должны быть такие же ассоциации как с войной, а то всё насилие почему-то у школьников романтизировано, даже стрельба в школе
They lived for 70 years happily exsept for 1939-45 but no one had any problems people had free jobs free housing then yeltsin came and runied everything people were trapped in different countries they weren't supposed to be in ridiculous
@@someguy2744 I think the comment was more talking about art as in relation to the montage of the video: the choice of music, footages, cuts, arrangement ect... Everyone knows that this is a real event.
This is so sad because I think Alik knew he wasn't gonna go back home, but he didn't have a choice. Those brave men died with no support from anyone, though they begged for artillery, helos, ANYTHING all night... The last words that you hear after the conversation between Alik and the Chechen were his and his men's last calls for help, and their agonized screams as the Chechens stormed the railway station...
@@simmerke1111 Knowing russian history? Like Poland got rid of russia by the peaceful solidarity movement? Czechia with the peaceful velvet revolution jingling keys over their head? Latvia, estonia, lithuania by the peaceful balkans way, just holding hands? If the russian people sit down and stop till their army returns then putin is done. If ukraine stops fighting and says they will just sit on the roads, russia fails. Everything in their history says that just saying NO to them causes them collapse. Fighting causes misery for years. He and russia have choices.
@@geroutathat why are you making it seem like these countries stopped a Russia Invasion through peace?!? The Velvet Revolution had nothing to do with an invasion. As for them guys not obeying orders and everything would be fine, wtf are you smoking? There would be major consequences. I mean you are smart enough to know that right? Maybe not tho. You did just try saying if Ukrainians sat in the street Russia would go home. No buddy, Ukrainian e would be Russia now if they just put down their guns. I mean Putins been shelling civilian areas from the start. I do agree with peace but sometimes you gotta let the bully know you aren’t taking their shit no more. Plain and simple
"Who will win this" in this line i finally now understand why in the times of war there is no winners, there's no victory, there's no price only suffering
I feel that this is one of the most heartbreaking videos I've ever seen. This is one of those videos that just hits you like a baseball bat. I showed my dad this, and I actually ended up shedding a few tears reading out the subtitles. I wish the US school system would teach about this and the Soviet Afghan war. I'm in the US military, and I can't imagine the horror of being obligated or forced to fight and kill people and friends I deployed with a few years before.
Alik (the Russian) and Lambada (the Chechnan) were actually old friends. they had served together as comrades in Afghanistan before the USSR broke up. Neither of them survived this war.
As someone who was deployed in a combat zone this hits hard. Everyone is cold and emotionless until it’s time to fight then that’s when you began to question everything. Like “why am I here” “do the enemy even want to fight or are they just following orders” but you still don’t hesitate because one thing you learn in basic training hesitation can be the difference between going home and being shot and killed
The weird part is captives, especially if you're culturally close. Like the war is half over, but there's still the question of violence is lingering. One of my weirdest moments was bringing a 20 pack of Pepsi for some Narco captives and they were afraid I was about to kill them after the conciliatory gift. I wasn't, I was just making sure they had proper rations. A lot of them were like us militiamen -- teens to thirties, looking for action, down for a good time.
@@Mortablunt well captives are used to being treated like shit so when they come across someone that actually treats them like a person they are afraid that it might be a ploy and I can’t say that I blame them I can understand where they’re coming from you’re a captive, and you’re alive one day, and they might decide to execute you the next day so there’s always going to be that fear of am I going to die
Грустно всё это слышать, когда всё понимаешь без перевода. Так же, как и: Мы просили всего 2 танка и сегодня, мы бы не отправляли 23 гроба, их было бы намного меньше. Мы сегодня отправили парня у которого 2 грудных ребенка и теперь они сироты...
@@deusexaethera if he had disobeyed a direct order there's a good chance he could've been beaten disappeared or even put at the front. He had no choice if he had attempted to do anything a superior would've made the executive decision for him. As stated they were dead once they reached the railway station if this isn't proof that the Russian military sees there troops as cannon fodder more than anything.
That's a powerful video. I can put myself in each man's shoes. It's easy to talk tough and say what you would or wouldn't do. Even though I detest my current govt and despise what they're doing I would still fight for my people. There are times when no easy choice can be made and running away isn't an option. I hope both men found peace at the end.
@Arte Floe problem is as the saying goes, the best defense is a good offence. That's why nuclear weapons worked (and still do) The Russian government doest not consider their war and offensive one, they consider it a defensive war, acting while they still can before it's too late and vassalisation is their only option. That may o not be true but its not like it matters. Some times I think conscience is a curse.
@Arte Floe you clearly haven't been in the army during war, that's why you say this. And before you ask. Yes. I've been. No fighting means you get executed on the spot for disobeying direct orders during war-time
“When they needed us most, we sat there, when others needed us, we sat there, and we are still sitting here, while people are dying and they need our help, but we just sit here, they will not take Ukraine, they will not take peoples homes, even if it get to the last city, the last house, the last room, the last man, the last Clip, the last bullet, TO THE END!”
@@UnknownSoulGuy okey what I don’t know were u are from but you won’t get endid for not following orders yeh in Rus but seeing from your text u are not because you say you have been stop talking like you know stuff because you don’t and this video for men being stupid no it’s what we do I won’t let any Country take us over I will be the first to register and defend it I’m from the Nederlands and proud of it
чеченская война была очень страшной, а от этой записи все время мурашки по коже, очень душераздирающий диалог ещё из этого же разряда было видео, где солдат просил 2 танка, но начальство отклонило просьбу и погибло очень много солдат
I am of Chechen origin. My family lived there during the war. They told me everything that happened there, and it's just sad, because they didn't have choice but to listen the orders and actually happy as a Chechen to see people notice the Chechen war.
@@terrorgaming459 Could have avoided if Russian governement wouldn't try to conquiert and genocide Caucasians and remains in their steppes. It's 100% Russian's fault, and I believe God will not be so merciful to the war criminals who ruined an entire people life: nothing in there had even worth the massacre of civilans
@@chingis1154 If USSR lived, there would have been not a single war on the territory of post-soviet countries. If the USSR have not collapsed, people (including people from Warsaw pact) would have been ~40 % more richer, given constant 5-8 % GDP growths. Given that average and median salaries were basically the same, the differences between rich and poor would have been minimal. That been said, not a single country from the USSR or the Warsaw pact had reached this quality of life. Millions died in the bloody wars on the post-Soviet territories. Millions died due to drugs, alcohol, gang wars and bad quality of life. It is estimated that due to this events Russian alone has lost more people than in the WW2 ( or at least the numbers are comparable). But yeah, believe in the anti-Soviet propaganda all you want.
I remember a similar story from I guess the India Pakistan war in 1965. After the partition, two Muslim brothers in the then British Indian Army decided to opt for different countries. By 1965, the older was a Colonel or Brigadier in a tank regiment in the Pakistan Army, while the younger was a newly promoted Major in the Indian Army in a tank regiment. As the 1965 war progressed, the units of both brothers were on the opposite side to one another. The Pakistani Brother ordered a small team of men to go behind enemy lines and probe the Indian unit for their strength, plans and if possible sabotage their equipment. This small team went out in the dark hours of the morning and finally reached the Indian unit. As the Indians were preparing to attack and warming up and starting their tanks, among the smoke and noise, the small Pakistani unit was able to do its job and assess their strength. The small Pakistani team, in search of Indian plans tried to look into the tank of the Indian commanding officer probably thinking it was empty. But as they opened up the hatch, they saw a man sitting inside. Before the man was able to shoot back, the Pakistani team shot him, gathered his map and notes and took his epaulettes as a proof of their action to report back to their commander. When they briefed the Pakistani commander after coming back from their mission, the commander was concerned that they had to shoot an Indian officer, but was glad that they were able to do their mission and come back with valuable intelligence. But when the commander asked for who the officer was and if they had any proof, they gave him his notes and epaulettes. The Pakistani commander broke down, as he recognized the epaulettes of an Indian major in the same unit as his brother was serving in. The Pakistani probing team, perplexed to their commander's reaction would later learn that their commander broke down overridden with guilt and sadness, as he had inadvertently killed his own brother.
You guys could have Greater India Country. But the blindness cause by the Religion people extrimist, not the religion itself destroyed your long everlasting Bond
@@whatintheworld6413 look at the religious extremism in present day South-Asia. Look at today's India and add to that 40 million more Muslims and half a dozen more ethnicities.
@@whatintheworld6413 Muslims were being eradicated and exterminated, we had to strive for a separate homeland but what people dont understand is that it wasn't their people that caused this but their government. They hunted my great grand mother and her family. They narrowly escaped with my great grand father having been shot in his shoulder and almost losing his arm to infection. And now, well... As a pakistani muslim, I have nothing against anyone who doesnt have anything against me but I also have everything against the current Indian government and what they stand for. I do hope that those who manipulate the religious convictions and patriotism of our people are punished and I hope all can see the true meaning of the word and way of Islam.
0:38 Alik said "Я не такой большой начальник, чтоб давать такие команды." Means "I am not such a big boss (higher rank) to give such orders", not "I can't give this orders", sounds similar but actually has a different meaning. If Alik retreated, he might get dishonorably dismissed or even arrested for treason, and someone will simply take his place (delay of his troops might also treaten the other safety). So he didn't have choices. Total 1000+ troops only 160 able to escape and 75 were captured. If Alik didn't command his own troops, there might be barely any survivors spared by enemy's well coordinated ambushes, even though his friend (in this video) warned him that them both will show no mercy in battle.
@@arthurkarapetyan6246 yeah I noticed that too, it’s a shame for those who don’t understand the language. I bet they get a whole different perspective…
@@arthurkarapetyan6246 Cooome on, do a full translation please. I understand the best language in the world, Arabic. But not Russian, help me out please.
@@AbdoZaInsert Turpal (The man trying to console Alik) -Alik, maybe somehow before it’s too late pull back your troops.( he says ребята, but it's more so generalization for troops). -Alik don’t do this, you dont have to do this. -Either way Alik, you will die and i will die, what will be the point of that? Try to understand who will win this? We won’t win this with you, don't you understand? -If you will survive this battle, for better or worse( is how i understood it) i won’t see you the way you see me anymore, do you understand. -Its better if we meet as guests( he says гости, gocti but its more so friends, than rivals on the battlefield) -Please, pull back your troops. Dont do this. -Have pity on their mothers. Pity them for me. -Give the order. Alik: -I am not in such a position to make that order. Turpal -Alik you have to understand that, from my heart i wish that you come out of this alive. It would be better if you left. Alik -Well i don’t have a choice, i have orders and i will fulfill them in any case
Radio exchange from 1:40 1:40 Boria(name-Boris)! Btr is gone, bliat! 1:42 give us a cover (suppressive fire), f*ck...illegible 1:44 Number 4, I'm wounded, bmp is disabled (he one of the crew members) 1:48 -im number 10, number 11 over -number 11, (illegible cursing), we are all gonna die, and it is not bulshit (cursing) need immediate solid help 2:00 -artillery is way too close (means its fires way too close), way too f*cking close! On depot, on depot!! Should working(firing) on depot, FFS! -i understand, going (firing) depot! 2:10 illegible... 70...illegible 2:12 two cars(bmp)...illegible cursing...need to go in a platform (railway station) illegible...and to look on the other side of railway, bliat, and make wet everyone (means kill everyone)...
@@tonyrantony3640 He's wounded, from shrapnel or the pressure of the explosion who knows He was dying pretty much, at least knowing he was about to succomb to his wounds or the "enemy" coming to sweep up I guess crying could have part of the reason behind such a sad tone..
More complete version: On December 31, 1994, the 131st Maikop Brigade and 81st Motorized Rifle Regiment entered Grozny, promising to capture Grozny in 4 hours as a New Year present to President Yeltsin. But they were trapped: they entered the center of the city unhindered, and then they were surrounded. On the morning of January 1, 250 of the 700 federal troops and 100 armored vehicles that had entered Grozny left alive, among whom there were also wounded people and 7 armored vehicles. 450 people were left lying on the streets of Grozny forever. It took four hours to capture Grozny, but the operation itself lasted a long three months and was the beginning of a year and a half of the First Chechen War. Here is, in fact, the dialogue itself: [Chechen] Alik, come on, maybe sometime, before it's too late, take the guys away. Alik, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. In any case, Alik, understand, you will die, and I will die. What good will it do? Understand correctly yourself! Who will benefit from it? You and I won't benefit from it, you know! If someone is not happy in Russia, then it must be solved at the government level, but not by force of arms. Politicians... - [Russian officer] Wait, I... What's your name again? - [Chechen] Come on, do it. Give the command. Tell your command. Before it's too late, that you've got men left, come on... Take them out of the city. Go away, Alik! Come on, you'd better come later, you and me... You'll visit me. We will... It's all right. But this, the fact that you came now, Alik... Now I see you - you're a great guy, and... If I see you in battle, you know, you're great, not great, already I will not spare you, as well as you me, understand? You'd better come to me as a guest, Alik! Take the guys away! Don't do that. Have pity on their mothers, have pity on them. Take the boys, Alik. Give the command! - [Russian officer] Well, I'm not so big a boss as to give such commands! - [Chechen] Alik, understand correctly... I, for example, just from my heart... and... purely, I wish that you stay alive, of course, but... go away better! If others do not leave - go away yourself! Take those who listen to you. Pull back the troops... [Interference] ...in a week... [Interference] ...done... [Interference] [Russian officer] I have no such choice. I have my orders and I'll carry them out anyway.
I understood not everything they said, that wasn't subtitled, but hearing the desperation and sincerity of their speech still worked its way to my soul.
"Alik, from my heart i wish you survive this, but you better leave" "I don't have much of a choice" you can tell he doesn't want to do this, but he has to
I'm imagining this with my friends in the service after getting out of the service myself. Talking to those who I'd made a stronger bond with than my own family, begging them, "please, don't throw your life away, and the lives of your men. If you remember the bond we once had, just go. Live another day so maybe after this is all over, we can sit together once again over a meal." It absolutely breaks my heart.
What these women dont understand is. The moment men do cry. They will be attacked viciously, often by the same type of person who put the article about its okay for men to cry. You wanna know why men always bottle up their emotion?. We cant afford to show weakness. Not a even for a split second.
the boys vs girls meme where girls cry during titanic is so basicass since its 2022 and girls don't cry at titanic no more, no one cries watching titanic at all actually, "these women" you are talking about is fictional meme characters and you act like as if they violated you into depression lol the thing about those type of sentences people say like "why men always bottle up their emotion? cause we can't afford to show weaknesses" makes it cringe because sometimes its true and sometimes its false, women also bottle up their emotions, and not all men bottle up their emotion, what you did was take 50/50 out of both genders and talk as if those 50/50 was 100/100
As someone born in a military family, whose family did see more than their share of war and I did see someone very close to me make some backbreaking and crippling choices, I know how deep this conversation hits. A strong enemy is something you pray not to have but once you do and if you are after living far more beyond your life, then that enemy is something to cherish. It will, most probably kill you, but then again you shall never die.
According to one of the top comments (maybe it's unreliable information), these two served together before this engagement (Battle of Grozny, Chechen War). (Turpal Ali-Atgeriyev and Ivan Alikssevich Savin)
The saddest thing is that the same thing is and will be happening in the current Russia-Ukraine situation, given the fact that Russian soldiers have friends/relatives in Ukraine and vice versa.
Nah u can't compare these two Ukraine is nothing compared to The chechen war it was basically hell on Earth over 10.000 Russians and 30.000 chechen died maybe even more
@@yp.7440 From which source the media? Reddit? Lmaoo nobody's knows what's going on there don't believe everything u here Ukraine and Russian probaganda are the same I don't believe any shit from both sides
Another sad thing is that they both died in the first days of battle in Grozny. The man who said the words "Alik, retreat your men" is Ali Adaev "Lambada", he died the next day after the death of russian commander Ivan Savin "Alik".
"Kropp on the other hand is a thinker. He proposes that a declaration of war should be a kind of popular festival with entrance-tickets and bands, like a bull fight. Then in the arena the ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves. Whoever survives, his country wins. That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting." - All Quiet on the Western Front
This. the solution if there was no options to war , instead the people that now want this war is the one who fight while the higher ups are behind them
Not enough people know about the Chechen Wars. If they did, they would see the current invasion of Ukraine in a much darker light. This will be an ever escalating horror show.
People, especially younger men and women from the west, who are now expressing any level of pro-russia sentiments in an effort to be edgy or contrarian, are woefully and tragically unaware of the horrifying and bone-chilling disregard for human life and suffering and the true cruelty of the meat grinder that is Russian imperialism. People get lost in political narratives and forget to be human and have human responses to things
In an effort to hide Russia's losses and its tactics in this conflict, the legacy war machine that Russia inherited from USSR is refusing as we speak, to even acknowledge and retrieve the corpses of fresh conscripts it sent into Ukraine. Full information blackout and zero regard for your own people first of all. Much like the USSR that fed its own children to the German war machine like coals to fire, suffering catastrophic avoidable casualties. It's just the nature of the beast. Dehumanize, deny, destroy
@UwU i dont see a single point in these wars. If it wasnt for nationalistic low iq pawns there wouldnt be no wars. If it is such an honor to die for your country why do we never see the rich or powerfull going for it? They sit in safety while these knobheads try to kill each other for their "leaders"meanwhile their lifes wont even improve after they win. Absolute cringe fighting for anyone besides yourself
"My struggle is easier as it expels the invaders, but your struggle will be more difficult as it will be against your own countrymen" Ir soekarno (first president of Republic of Indonesia)
@@vasiliantonov7484 Can you really blame Russia here though. Chechnya is in the Caucasus, which is essentially Russia's life blood both resource and financial wise. It'd be like if Texas seceded from the US... the US government wouldn't just stand by and let that happen.
This video damn near brought a tear to my eye. Two men who were once brothers in arms facing an ultimatum of having to fight and kill one another or disobey orders and having to face dire consequences of nations that give extreme punishments for those decisions. Absolutely heartbreaking.
the fact that this happened within living memory is utterly insane.... it's horrible to know that people who survived the Chechen war are now fighting and dying again in yet another war
Why? Chechens lost the second war. Russia integrated them as rurals and turned them into cannon fodder. That is how Russia has worked for centuries. Countless nations and tribes have been destroyed this way.
@@zcrib3 Chechens appear to actually be fighting for both sides from what I've seen, but yeah the way Russia conducts itself is straight out of the 1800s when it comes to this sort of thing. The human life isn't quite as valuable over t here.
"А я такого выбора не имею. У меня есть приказ и я его выполню в любом случае!" Коротко и емко. Понимать такое, а главное действовать по такому принципу - черта любого НАСТОЯЩЕГО офицера любой страны, национальности и веры.
удивлен что иностранцы пропускают мимо ушей эти самые важные слова плевать что ты хочешь, плевать что ты можешь, главное - то что ты ДОЛЖЕН только после второй мировой именно этот принцип отразился в бою за высоту 3234 в Афгане, штурме Грозного, обороне высоты 776, в Беслане, в Пятидневной войне, в Крыму в 2014, в подвиге Олега Пешкова, Романа Филиппова, Александра Прохоренко в САР, подвиг жителей Донецка, выдержавших блокаду и обстрелы со стороны украины, во множестве подвигов в СВО - небесная тысяча, повторение подвига Гастелло, бой 2-й отдельной бригады спецназа в Харькове и многие другие случаи, когда был приказ, и плевать что требовалось, плевать получится ли, задача должна быть выполнена любой ценой, ведь хоть сколько-то отобьем, дадим возможность нашим, заберем с собой как можно больше врагов или в замен своих спасем тысячи жизней, чтобы весь мир помнил и знал - Не воюйте с Русскими, ведь каждый русский стоит сотню, каждый русский офицер тысячу, а вся армия, если поступит приказ, весь мир превратит в труху.
The line that got me:
"If I see you in action, I won't show mercy, just like you won't. Retreat your men. It is better if you come as a guest."
Sadge
@@UkraineJames2000 why?
@@Alperen_07950 he's saying that it's sad or depressing
Because they were friends
@@kloa4219 its sad
Imagine having to fly to Afganistan, surviving the whole war with your comarade, coming home and after a few years, you have to face your brother-in-arms as an enemy.
Imagine coming back and a few years later your country collapses
I mean, to be fair, it's Alik who decided to fight for the drunkard president that shot the white house (the soviet one) with a tank.
@@kak42 you didn't even get it did you ?? whatever choice he made he would die anyways if he disobeyed the orders they would find him and kill him so welp he'd rather die fighting
@@kak42 You think a soldier has the right to choose what orders he follows and what orders he disobeys? A real soldier follows every order word for word, even when he knows these orders will get him killed. Yes, Jelcin was a drunkard and an idiot, just like the rest of the high command of the Russian army, but that doesn't change the fact that this is what soldiers do, they follow orders.
@@milanvondrich9749 Tools, lackeys, servants. That's who "follow orders". Soldiers fight for something they believe in. Aushwitz guards were "just following orders" too then. How neat!
_"I don't have a choice... I have orders and I will obey them in any case."_
gave me goosebumps all over my body.
Brainwashing is a powerful tool of the elites
@@fried1537 It is not brainwashing, he was just doing what every soldier is expected to do, follow orders.
@@fried1537 he coudn't have done it. Even if they did retreat, he would bee punished and another commander would replace him
@@cheekibreeki9818 And they will die like soldiers. Just as the Russians in Ukraine fertilize the gold fields of wheat now. Surrender is the only way to survive when your commanders use you as Cannon fodder.
@@DaleDixieMafia ah do they actually? What do you know?
“Have pitty on their mothers” gave me chills cause no matter what country you’re from, no mother wants to lose her son in an armed conflict
I can think of one place, although it's contested whether it's a country or not.
@@TawaraboshiGenba for gods sake they are fucking human.
@@TawaraboshiGenbaWhat place are you referring to?
@@TawaraboshiGenbaIf ur referring to Gaza trust me ur wrong.
Not even fathers oh wait they already died in war😔.
"Have pity for their mothers"
That line hits so hard i actually couldn't stop thinking about for days
Yeah it broke me how much he was begging for them to not waste their life, but what could they do. If they retreated they'd probably be punished severely.
@@Truck-kun_01 omg
@@asbestosfibers1325 yea bro being shut off and emotionless is so cool
@@asbestosfibers1325 You're either 12yo or 12IQ
@@asbestosfibers1325
What in the actual fuck are you talking about
this fucking broke my heart, he's literally begging him not to do it because he doesn't want to fight him
A good method of torture
Alik is is brother ?
@@barittos5585 no but i think they were former comrades in arms
@@AgieSebie i dont understand they were formar comrades in Afghanistan fighting against who ?
@@barittos5585 afghanis i assume
I think we don't understand how important this "meme" is. It actually give remembrance of terrible events and it help future generations to discover them so that we'll never forget what happened
I don't know. From where I stand, it looks like every generation thinks they have to try it for themselves and see.
history teaches nothing
@@RealNotallGaming It has the potential to, but we always think the slight differences outweigh the immense similarities.
"Well yeah, that happened then and it was awful, but our situation is different because (blah blah)."
It's not different, and we're never going to truly realize that, so the lessons of our histories are moot.
@@ossiehalvorson7702 and it’s always one person deciding war, how can anyone with so much power think clearly?
@@RealNotallGaming you cant learn from what going to happen next, you only can learn from the past
I'm not Chechen nor Russian, but I am a soldier.
This hits hard.
Thank you for your service regardless of what nation you're from.
Honor to soldiers.
But A BULLET hits "harder".
"Dudes" should have made their "moves" more wise/earlier.
No it's AKHMAT-land.
huge respect to you!
Меня много родни в Чечне погибло
I have translated it in full.
Chechen -- "Alik, come on, maybe somehow before it's too late, turn your guys back. Don't do this. Don't do it, it is not needed. In any case understand that you will perish and I will perish. What will be the point of that? Understand for yourself, who would win from this? Neither of us will win, understand? If I see you, it will be in battle... and then whether it is excellent for you or not excellent for you, I will not show you pity just as you would not to me, understand? It's better you come to me as a guest. Turn back your guys. There is no need. Have pity on their mothers. Have pity on them. Turn back your guys. Give the command."
Russian -- "I'm not such a big commander to give such orders."
Chechen -- "Alik, please understand correctly.. I, for example... to you from my heart, purely wish that you stayed alive of course but... you better get away."
Russian -- "And I don't have that choice. I have an order and I will fulfill it in any case."
1:37 - Borya! Borya! ... Borya stop, fuck!
1:40 - So stop it fuck, eleventh, over.
1:43 - Lyosha, I'm on the edge of life... BMPs burned out of action.
1:47 -Squad 11, this is squad 10.
1:51 - Squad 11, fuck, listen to me, this is not bullshit, we're all gonna die. We need a concrete decision made to evacuate.
1:59 - Artillery is too close.. it's too close! Fuuck... close... under my ear! Under my ear you guys are firing! [own artillery landing him on]
2:06 - [unintelligible]
2:10- [unintelligible] how are you [unintelligible]
2:14- Two cars [BMP]. Two cars made it though. Need to platform, fuck, to the platform!
2:18 - [unintelligible]
Between 1:51-1:58 I had to fill in a few words that I assume or think were being said. That was the hardest part to translate. The other sections I marked as "unintelligible" so maybe someone else can help me out with those. The music in the video makes it hard to hear what is being said in those sections.
@@crispy682 No problem and thanks.
2:14. He said: "Need to platform (perron), fuck, to the platform!"
They were in railroad station and defend it
@@reload7522 Thanks. I updated my post with your translation.
thanks bro
Thank you for good job
Alik (Ivan Savin) Died while trying to evacuate the few remaining survivors of his 1000 men. While Turpal Atgeriyev, the man begging was seized from a Russian airport, falsely accused for the 2nd Chechen war which he had no involvement and suspected to have died from torture at the age of 33.
May these men rest in peace and may the men that brought them to this tragedy suffer their rightful judgement.
😞
That moment when you're ordered to attack your friend, and you're too indoctrinated in the ways of nationalist warfare to say "fuck this, I'm out."
@@deusexaethera They were never friends to begin with, otherwise they wouldn't have turned guns against each other. Maybe the other side considered another a friend but it obviously was never truly mutual.
I'm not surprised by stories like this at all since I don't see any of my friends as life long friends anymore. They stop being my friends and I start despising them the moment they start bullshitting over the land of my ancestors, my nation, and my language! Such people are nobody's friends! They are their own enemies!
@@Lipanj92 what the fuck are you saying mate? Being friends doesn’t mean your willing to give up your duty or job for them. Your taking the meaning of friends way too far 😂😂.
@@deusexaethera it is more that people are too afraid if the consequences of disobeying orders. Being shot or called a cheating coward
According to an article, Alik was Ivan Savin, a Russian Colonel who sent 1,000 of his men to what I think would have been the Central railway station to capture it. As heard in this clip a Chechen commander Turpal Ali Atgeriyev tries to console with Alik in an attempt to stop the attack. Alik refused because he was under orders and the attack went underway. While the battalion secured the perimeter with vehicles, a radioman heard the words 'Welcome to hell' on his headset before the battalion was attacked with automatic and RPG weapons fire. Alik called for support multiple times with his friends on the line inside the station building but nothing came. With most of the 1,000 he died fighting.
copied from original video.
That's pretty fucking brutal, but you can't say he wasn't warned. War never ceases to be the worst thing imaginable, no matter who's fighting it or why.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen also russian military have a tendency to just throw people to the meatgrinder
@@c4ns3r53 our military is so 4ucking corrupted and our people is so zombie, that If tomorrow Putin will say that he is a furer and we are nazi russia, I'm 4ucking sure the half of the country will support this.
@@yakutza3922 Holy shiet, 1000 men last stand? Why this gave me 40k vibe.
@@c4ns3r53 to tell you more - federals was attacke all the way to Grozny, because someone in HQ just sold planned path of the army units. And they was ordered to not change it. Only general Rochlin was not obey this order
My russian dad was in the Chechen war. He was a minesweeper. They were climbing up a ladder, he was in front and he stepped with his left foot, but the guy behind him stepped with his right foot, he stepped on a mine and his leg blew up. They drove with him to the emergency room, but he died of the blood loss. My dad said, like some higher force or God himself saved him for the future. He has a medal from that war, he is still alive and well.
Я не хочу тебя обидеть… но ты понимаешь что твой папа занимался терроризмом?
Очень жаль что жив
@@ВинсентВега-ч3ь спокойной, главное что укров скоро не останется))
@@ВинсентВега-ч3ь с такой гнилью вместо мозгов, лучше себя пожалей
@@ВинсентВега-ч3ь твои отчимы?
You can hear the pain in chechen commander's voice, he knew Alik and his men will be wiped out if they attacked. Talking to your friend before killing him is so heartbreaking
During the American Civil War, a naval commander bombarded a Confederate (Rebel) coastal fortification. After a very long fight, the fort lowered it flag and signaled that the flotilla commander should come ashore to accept the surrender of the garrison. The Admiral came ashore, to find that that the commander of the garrison had been mortally wounded. The commander of the garrison turned out to be his own son, and he gave his sword to his father and then died in his arms.
@@celebrim1 source
@@ajaysidhu471 yo mama
stop fucking believe everything. i dunno, you are some alternative at the west. CHECK INFO! you are so easily decieved there.
@@c1n1kdtm50 Deceived about the Chechnya war? It didn't even involve the west! All of this information comes from Russia, and was part of their appeal for healing between the Chechnyan and Russian people after two bloody Civil Wars and a forced reannexation of the province. What part of this do you think is deception?
Now imagine all the stories like this not recorded in history
I always think about those people who's lives and deaths will never be known.
History is written by the victors after all
This story reminds me of the Christmas Truce of WW1.
Because there are almost none to tell then
You only truly die if you’re forgotten
This is the most emotional, dramatic and saddest thing I have seen in a while. It hits so hard, especially after 1:35, where with beginning of hard rock starts the plea of Russians for help; "Borya, Borya stop!!!" , "I'm wounded, the vehicle is destroyed", "We are all gonna fucking die, it's not a joke you understand? We need quick help". That part should have been transtaled too, but it hits in different way when you understand all that without subtitles
Its actually post rock I think
And the reinforcements never came, shit is sad af
@@jonolas1626 yeah, From Roots to Needles - If These Trees Could Talk
Funny hearing this song here
@@halosnova1604 appropriate also
I really wished they subbed that part cause I literally had no clue what they're saying until I found you... God bless them
Nothing gets me close to tears like hearing the final words of a man say, “I’m on the edge of life. BMPs burned out of action.”
man i am Indian so i cant understand it , but even i could dissect the feeling from this video . what do think about the , i have my order and i will follow them line
I don't think much of anything could compare to the heartbreak of a situation like this. You're willingly going to your death because you are duty-bound to your nation, but the ones you will be fighting to the death are men you know, who you've served with, laughed with, suffered with.
What a horrible, ugly, heart wrenching situation.
Even when they served together, the Chechen was not seen as an equal anymore than African Americans are seen as equals in USA.
@@BoqPrecision if it was the 70's still, sure.
@@totallylegitenergy2559 Idk what you refer to, 70s wasn't the year discrimination magically ended against visible minorities.
The narrative of this video is exploiting the tragic fate of the Chechen and conflating it with the ignoble decision by the Russian to continue following his empire's orders ...The reverse would have NOT been possible. But you guys don't want to go there, either out of lack of insight or honesty.
@@BoqPrecision do you really insist on bringing political correction to everything? I mean this has absolutely nothing to do with the way black people are treated in america. Racism isnt just in america you know
@@eddiestevens8193 You're not even making sense, just throwing around buzz words and contradicting (and making my point) in the end.
Chechens were and are not treated equally in Russia with ethnic Russians. They're even called blacks as a derogatory remark.
If you have something to contribute by all means I'm ready to have dialogue...buy otherwise keep your emotional outbursts and not thought out sentiments to yourself.
I am not an emotional person but this is heartbreaking to hear.
@@kirbyalamri4928
Hold up, isn't that scene from a film?
@@alefmagnum207
Was it a film? I didn't know can you show me the film?
Bruh, this is from Russo-Chechen war not Ukraine.
@@kirbyalamri4928 this is radio talks from first Chechen war, that's real and it is terrible
@@kirbyalamri4928 ua-cam.com/video/pUh1icKbP8Y/v-deo.html
Found it. Quite a ride to search The Search)))
Both died in this war. Alik(Russian) and Lambada (Chechen)
Edit: Lol when i saw this Video there were less than 1000 views now above million.
That's interesting, I wasn't aware that the identity of the a Chechen commander was known.
@@nokokusovai4415 Lambada is his nickname and his real name is ali adaev.
If you understand russian this video is about him: ua-cam.com/video/CNRNbBf5yp8/v-deo.html
AbuEnte TM may allah give him jannah
@@youtubeboxing719 amin
@@HingalshDealer amin 🇹🇳❤💎
The complete story is here :
Mid-afternoon, the first battalion of the 131st MRB occupied the train station. Because of the radio black-out, they were unaware of the 81st MRR's situation. They separated from the second battalion from the freight station to the west, and from the third battalion on the outskirts of the city. The unit parked their tanks and armored personnel carriers around the station to wait for orders, around which time Chechen security minister Turpal-Ali Atgeriyev, who had served alongside Russian commanding officer Colonel Ivan Alekseevich Savin prior to the encounter and was worried about bloodshed on both sides (likely concerned for the safety of his old friend), extended a desperate plea to Savin (nicknamed Alik by Atgeriyev in the brief communication), proposing a negotiation for Savin to "withdraw his men and come to him as a guest", an offer which the latter had no choice but to reject due to having insufficient permission to call a ceasefire. Sometime after, a Russian communications officer heard the words "Welcome to Hell" on his headset. Shortly after, Chechen defenders in the depot buildings, the post office, and the five-story building surrounding the station opened devastating automatic and anti-tank fire. The surviving Russian troopers took cover inside the station, then the Chechens completed their ambush by setting it on fire. Colonel Savin radioed for help and artillery fire, but help never arrived
Most distress calls from the 131st went unanswered. The second and third battalions of the brigade responded to the call for help, but were caught in layered ambushes before reaching the station. Both battalions were ordered to stay away from the Presidential Palace; this added to the trouble as the armored columns turned into alleyways, only to be destroyed by more of the layered ambushes.[7] After a small element of the 503rd Motor Rifle Regiment received orders to move during the early hours of the day, they immediately received friendly fire from the other Russian forces bogged down under heavy fire; they fought each other for six hours (there were many more such incidents, some of them organized by the Chechens). The 8th Corps reached the city center from the north, but were unable to save the units fallen into the ambush. No Russian reinforcements reached the railway station.
At sundown, Colonel Savin decided to evacuate the wounded via the only working armored personnel carrier. After loading forty wounded troopers, the APC moved in the wrong direction (toward the center of the city). It eventually turned around to retreat along the same route, but was ambushed by Chechen anti-tank gunners; thirteen of the crew and passengers survived to be taken prisoner. On 2 January, Colonel Savin and his remaining officers abandoned the railway station. They found some abandoned Russian armored personnel-carriers. They attempted to escape, but were attacked by Chechen fighters. Savin died on the street from air-burst shrapnel beside his wrecked vehicle.[7] By 3 January, the 131st Brigade lost nearly 789 men killed (another 75 were captured, and only 160 reached safety), including almost all of their officers. In addition, twenty of twenty-six tanks and 102 of 120 other armored vehicles were lost. The entire Maikop Brigade of over 1,000 men was wiped out in sixty hours.[7]
During this debacle, General Grachev proclaimed "the entire city centre and several districts of the city and its outskirts are under complete control of Russian forces".
Source: Wikipedia, Battle of Grozny (1994-1995), Central Railway Station.
Goddamn, Russians really are animals.
Any other western country that would have led to massive reforms and stripped down of ranks and even massive protests against whoever dumbass led to that conflict.
But no in Russia, government sees people as meat to be grinded to further whatever their imperialistic aim is…. Chechens weren’t safe, Georgians weren’t safe, Ukrainians weren’t safe, Russian citizens aren’t also safe. Yet people just stay quiet obediently - waiting for their sons to be drafted while they watch Channel 1 - the best channel - which is also a government channel lol
Thanks bro
Ok
There's not enough characters to write the "the complete story"
On the part of the militants, the famous field commander Ali Adayev negotiated. Shamil Basayev's right-hand man and henchman, the chief of staff of the notorious Abkhazian battalion, who went through the Abkhazian war together with Shamil II.
Ali Gadaev was known in Chechnya by the nickname Lambada - according to one version, when he was traveling to Abkhazia, in Stavropol in the KMV area, his car was stopped for inspection by traffic cops. However, an armed Ali pointed a machine gun at them and forced them to dance a lambada at gunpoint...
Basayev considered Adayev one of the most promising and knowledgeable of his henchmen. Together they fought against the opposition of Umar Avturkhanov and Beslan Gantamirov in the autumn of 1994.
The question of establishing Alik's identity is quite complicated. Who he was exactly, meant only "Lambada", who took this secret with him to the grave.
The main version says that this is someone from the officers of the legendary 131st Motorized Rifle Brigade, who stormed Grozny on New Year's Eve-1995. But it was definitely not her commander - the commander who fell to the death of the brave was called Ivan Savin. And his call sign was "Caliber-9".
It is assumed that Alik is the commander of the reconnaissance company of the Maykop brigade Oleg Tyrtyshny. Alas, he also fell in that New Year's assault on Grozny. But it has not yet been possible to prove one hundred percent that it is Oleg Petrovich's voice.
By the way, I advise you to take less information from Wikipedia. A thoroughly hypocritical website that introduces misinformation and is edited for the benefit of its owners.
I’m obsessed with this video. The desperate pleading in the Chechnyan man’s voice. The knowledge that Alik likely knew he was not going to make it out but had to obey orders. The desperate pleas over the radio when they’re inevitably ambushed. The thought of these men dying in a cramped APC. It’s unreal.
What they are saying after the dialogue of both commanders ?
Russians
Had to?
This is why I don't like soldiers...this hollow sense of duty that doesn't equate to defending the countrymen but instead means following your superior's orders is what causes the most misery throughout history
@@alexandrualex1085 пролистай ниже, там есть комментарий почти со всеми сообщениями после диалога, в основном они сообщают что попали в засаду и подбиты, матерятся и просят подкрепления
Alik was executing orders, he was not "obeying" them. The subtitles make him sound like a victim, but he is actually quite assertive. He is a commander after all.
Unpopular opinion: Titanic is one of the least cryable among crying worthy movies
Edit: now pls stop replying which movies made u cry😭😭
*Correction: Popular
True
Try Graveyard of the fireflies
Keep your unpopular opinion to yourself next time
@@saveusm1saki726 no
Holy shit, I was not expecting to be hit that hard. Even though I don't know their language, you can just tell the pain and desperation in the first man's voice. Pleading with his friend not to throw away his life or the lives of his men. And to have "Alik" respond with a quiet resignation...knowing he has no choice. Knowing that his and his men's lives were already forfeit...
Its russian.
@@60kai_57 thank you, captain obvious. I said I didn't understand it, not that I didn't know what it was.
@@Duskraven67 you said you dont know their language, this can be seen both ways tbh.
@@Duskraven67 wtf you typed you dont know their language😂
@@60kai_57 By context, you can he meant he didn't understand the language
"Have pity for their mothers".
Little did they know that soon enough some of those mothers would be receiving VHS tapes of their sons being castrated, using addresses they found on letters home. The sheer cruelty that both sides inflicted on each other in Chechnya was unimaginable.
nah, one side was pretty brutal (wahhabi chechens) and the other was justifiably angry over what they chechens had done during the first war.
In last moments of "Alik's" speech, he is calmly saying "Squad eleven, this is squad ten, listen to me this is not some bulshit, we all gonna die here - so think , think, we need concrete decision to be made to evacuate us". As person who can speak 3 languages, I feel sad for people as you wont be able to understand emotion in his words...
Despite nonsense comments to this video, his opponent Ali Adaev (" Lambada" his nickname) died in the same fight... Through radio recordings you can hear how Alik is begging for immediate help, in response he received "we got you, we doing all we can" - unfortunatly this is just a response to calm and lift moral of soldiers - nobody was coming.
The sad thing is, his fate was pretty much sealed.
It was either follow orders and walk into death's doors, or retreat and face the harsh consequences.
We need a new leadership standards worldwide.
Thank you for translating. I really helps to humanize the people and events in the video.
@@manofculture8666 won’t happen until the old gens (or boomers as we say) all die off and the current “young generation” get into power. But the future is blurry atm because most young people are against politicians so don’t want to get into politics for this exact reason (how crazy the current leaders are)
@@LoserKidMusic believe me. The ruling class is unaffected by generations, generational differences between plebs has no effect on them, they will stay the same
I hate how little modern history is discussed in public school it’s crazy how there are earth shaking conflicts that we don’t talk about there consequences and what happens to each side
God knows we have to talk about the "3/5ths compromise" every fucking year in school!
@@SamBrickell naw that’s important stuff too we just don’t take the time to discuss what’s happening currently
because it does not happen in the West, that's why. The Chechen war and the invasion in Georgia in 2008 should both be discussed more. Sadly, it is only when something happens at our doorstep that we will be taught about it.
Speak for yourself, I had a history class about the Chechen war. But it's true that a lot of modern conflicts aren't discussed too much simply because they are not really over yet, or it would be a history class from which you don't extract principles but just the story itself. It's not just simply because it doesn't happen in the West, because you can bet your ass that the Western richer countries have something to do with most wars around the globe.
Most people don't even know that Chechnya exists.
Imagine being forced to fight against who you consider to be your friends, your family, who you shared and had many memories. You don't know what to do, give up on your humanity or your duty as a soldier for your nation
This is what happens when you attack brother countries
Если приказ преступный, то солдат обязан его не выполнить. Для этого есть конституция.
@@AituSpatay номер статьи
@@goodboi101 погугли, найдёшь.
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Holy shit man that hit the depths of my heart "have pity for their mothers" "have pity for your guys, retreat them"😭😭
my uncle told me a story about his experience with having a friend on the other side. "A friend of mine was in New york some 20 years ago. it was 1999. I was a street cop, on my last patrol. my partner and I were called to respond to a break in. we hurried to the address and get out of the car just in time to see the perp in a mask, holding a gun on the home owner and his girlfriend. I hollered for him to stop and turn. he turned to me and my heart dropped. 'John?' I knew that voice. I served with him in The Gulf War. it was my old squad mate, Marco. My partner saw me hesitate and put 2 and 2 together. 'you know this guy?' I could only nod. my partner hollered once more for him to stop, and drop the gun. Marco.. he turned to shoot my partner, and I reacted. before I could process what happened, my sidearm was up and firing. one in the neck, one in the chest. It took a moment to sit and realize what I'd just done.. and when I did, I crumpled to the ground, numb. my partner tried to understand why I was so broke up over it after the fact, and didn't get it until I showed him a photo of Marco and I with our platoon. he knew then. I spent the next few years agonizing over it. Marco's wife and son... never looked at me the same way again. who could blame them? I took away a husband, and a father. to this day.. I almost wish I hadn't pulled the trigger. but if I hadn't, my partner might have died... in the end, I retired from the force after just 6 years. I find myself wondering every now and then, 'what made him turn to crime?'.. I suppose I'll never know." he died days after my 19th birthday. This reminded me of him, and what he once told me. thanks for reading one man's post. we'll never see each other in person, dear reader, but I hope you have a wonderful life.
- o7
I’m sorry for your loss
I'm sorry for your loss. May you find peace.
Despite the badsituation, I think and feel you did the right thing, however painful. I hope that you found inner peace over this and if not, that you will find it soon. To serve and protect and you protected as your duty required. I wish you a lot of great days ahead in a fruitful long life.
Bruh this is a copypasta
U 2
So to explain what happened in this clip is that:
The person who is begging Alik, who is a Russian Liteunent Colonel, to not attack is Lambada, a Chechen General from the Chechen war, now why is that? Well because these two men were actually brother in arms in the war of Afghanistan of 1979, they both fought together and survived the war and returned home to Russia, or in that time, the USSR, and then 3 years after the collapse of the USSR in 1991, the Chechen war began, and these 2 very close friends who spent years fighting with each other, suffered together, laughed together and joked together were now suddenly enemies, and Lambada is begging Alik to not attack as he doesn't want to fight and kill his friend, so, Alik, was in a tough decision, he really wanted to stop the attack, but he couldn't bare to think about disobeying his countries orders, and he attacked, with 1000 men, he died in the battle of Grozny, his 1000 men died as well, only a few men lived to tell the story of these 2 men.
Alik's unit suffered losses but survived.
@@faunt07 Yes, most of his men died, but some lived
Now Russia uses Chechen fighter squads for dirty work, like the CIA used Cuban American's in the 60's.
@@keithsimpson2150 yep it's funny how a slave army will obey its new conquer without question. After they have killed its leaders and obliterated it's home.
@@william6072 they literally bombed the cities flat and rebuilt them with stolen money and put in their own government in charge of everything, just getting richer and richer. The people who opposed them were killed and classed as terrorists. These were just regular civilians who wanted to live in peace just like today's Ukrainians. Millions escaped south. The rest sadly died and got there land taken and all army and such were taken over by Russia. The checnyans land was extremely rich just like Ukraine is.
The dialogue is between colonel Ivan Savin of the 131st motor brigade (nicknamed Alik by his father-name Aleksey, a lot of Chechens knew russian commanders personally because they used to serve together few years earlier in the Caucasus district) and unidentified Chechen commander (most probably Turpal-Ali Atgeriyev) just after Colonel Savin with his brigade took Railway Station. Chechens ask him to leave and come back as a guest and to show mercy to his troops' mothers. Later you can hear Savin asking for artillery support, reinforcements and later agony and cry for help after the station was stormed by Chechens from nearby buildings with grenade launchers and mortars. Savin and almost 90% of his brigade dies with all the equipment and armored vehicles (also due to friendly artillery fire).
By mid-afternoon, the first battalion of the 131st MRB occupied the train station, unaware of the 81st MRR's situation and separated from the second battalion which reached the freight station further to the west, and from the third battalion on the outskirts of the city. The unit parked its tanks and armored personnel carriers around the station and awaited further orders. Somewhere within that period of time, a Russian communications officer heard the words "Welcome to Hell," on his headset. Shortly after, Chechen fighters, hiding in the depot buildings, the post office, and the five-story building surrounding the station, opened devastating automatic and anti-tank fire. The surviving Russian soldiers took cover inside the station, which the Chechens soon set ablaze. Russian commanding officer Colonel Ivan Savin radioed for help and artillery fire, which never came.
Most distress calls from the 131st went unanswered. The second and third battalions of the brigade responded to the call for help, but were blasted at close quarters before even reaching the station. Both battalions were ordered to stay away from the Presidential Palace; this only added more to the trouble as the armored columns tried cutting down alleyways, only to be further cut down by ambushes.[6] When a small element of the 503rd Motor Rifle Regiment finally received their orders to move in during the early hours of the day, they immediately came under friendly fire from the other Russian forces already bogged down under heavy fire; they fought each other for six hours (there were more such incidents reported, some of them actually prepared by the Chechens). The 8th Corps reached the city center from the north but was unable to save the units that had fallen into the trap because of stiff resistance. No reinforcements ever reached the railway station.
At nightfall, Colonel Savin decided to evacuate the wounded via the only working armored personnel carrier available. After loading 40 wounded soldiers on board, the APC moved in the wrong direction (toward the center of the city). It turned around and was ambushed by Chechen anti-tank gunners; only 13 soldiers survived to be taken prisoner. On January 2, Colonel Savin and his remaining officers abandoned the railway station. They found some abandoned armored personnel carriers and attempted to escape the area, but were attacked by Chechen fighters and Savin died on the street from shrapnel wounds beside his wrecked vehicle.[6] By January 3, the 131st Brigade had lost nearly 789 men killed (another 75 were captured, and only 160 reached safety), including almost all of its officers. In addition, 20 of 26 tanks and 102 of 120 other armored vehicles were lost as well. The entire Maikop Brigade of over 1,000 men had been wiped out in sixty hours.[6]
At the same time, General Grachev announced that "the entire city centre and several districts of the city and its outskirts are under complete control of Russian forces".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994-95)
Now we understand how corrupt russia is
Thank you so much for this comment
@@alexandrualex1085 Always has been.
@@alexandrualex1085, все страны коррумпированны, просто у нас это даже не скрывают...
Thank you
*"I don't have any choice.I have orders and I'll have to obey them"*
Maaan,that sucks😢
It has become a habbit of mine to randomly return to this video now 😢
As a chechen who lost family in the war and now lives in Germany I'm crying very hard
Möge Allah Azzawajal deine Familie mit dem Paradies belohnen. Möge Allah Azzawajal die Sünden deiner Familie vergeben. Möge Allah Azzawajal dich mit deiner Familie in Jannah Vereinen. Ameen Ya Rabb.
Bleib stark, Kamerad!
@@Yaennn000 danke das werde ich
Damn :(
Remember Allah.
This is not a meme, this sadness
Meme's are harsh reality
Memes are a coping mechanism
"It is better if you come to me as a guest."
This line broke my heart.
then invite me in and dont fight me.
@@geroutathat i guess you didn't pay attention to the video then
Перевод не совсем правильный, там говориться : ты лучше ко мне как гость приедь.....
@@osobov4726 но смысл тот же
As a chechen I can confirm the chechen war was hell on earth
As a russian, I hope something like this would never happen again
Any war is hell on earth. It doesn't matter where this war is going!
@@ilikedoggos2771 me too. There's no winner in a war. We should live as friends and the,,brothers"
Согласен ❤
Всем, кто припоминает войну или гордиться этим, лучшего точно не желаю
Очень много у меня друзей чеченцев, все дружелюбные и здравые парни, от которых 0 негатива
@@ilikedoggos2771 It's happening now and it will happen again if Putin decides he wants to shrink his population again by a few million by attacking Nato.
The Chechen commander was very charismatic.
"its better if you come to me as a guest"
"have pity for your guys (and their mothers)"
"from my heart I wish that you survive this"
Kind man
Because him and Alik was brother in arms during the Afghan war
So many of you have issues even with reading comprehension... The Chechen and the Russian who talked on the radio were both veterans of Soviet army from Afghanistan war, they were brothers in arms and friends and now found themselves on opposing sides.
It said that he died from torture at the age of 33 after the war .
It is just false Chechens are warlike or radical people, they are actually very hospitable and friendly similar to Turkic people around them who heavily influenced them for centuries. But similar as those Turkic people if you invade their country and threaten their people you can expect the worst as they will literally do everything to defend them. It was Russians who made a deal with the worst/most radical Chechens out there aka kadyrov faction to suppress an independence movement and kadyrov faction is actually more hated than Russia by most Chechens...
I don’t know what is more heartwrenching. Being killed by your best friend or killing your best friend and regretting it your whole life.
They both didn't make it out of this war alive
"A kill is a preventive suicide"
(like a preventive strike)
killing your best friend and regretting it your whole life.
atleast my best friend doesnt feel the regret I have to endure every day.
The latter.
My uncle is one of the "handful of men that survived"
How is he doing these days?
@@hayro252 ptsd
@@x4n0n10 that is what 12 million ukrainians will be experiencing once we defeat them. For god sakes don't give civilians weapons, conscript and train them for god sakes! Zelensky is a fool for doing such foolish move. You don't arm untrained civilians.
@@romanianturk2101 you usually don't invade another country. They might be arming civilians because of that but what do I know.
@@romanianturk2101 Tell this to your glorious shit stain of a leader Putin. Because he is sending young boys who are not trained and are working as teachers and such.
as a chechen i come back to this video often, watched the views increase from like 10k to 5 million almost 6 million now wow. many of my mothers brothers and my fathers family members have died in this war, may allah grant them jannah
Ameen
I also come back to this video every few months since war in Ukraine has started. Everytime I see it, it breaks my heart more and more and more. I'm sorry for your lost.
same, so many casualties in this war almost every Chechen now got close relatives that were martyred. makes it hard to be forgiving and forgetting even tho it's not rational..
Actual translate 0:39
"Я не такой большой начальник, чтоб давать такие команды"
"I do not have such a high rank to give such commands"
what do you think would have happened to him if he didn't go in?
@@Viper4ever05 Why, he would get incarcerated of course
@@WhooshWh0sh seems like bullshit if It’s clearly a lost cause
@@Viper4ever05 they didn't know it was a lost cause, troops on the ground basically had 0 intel, commanders in HQ lied to them and gave unreasonable orders. There were many different divisions, brigades and regiments, so if he refused to comply with orders he would risk the whole operation and the lives of everyone else. His brigade wasn't even supposed to attack anything, they didn't have any tasks, they were just a support, but for some reason they were given an order to attack the railway station...
@@helgenlane what a waste of life.
The fact they call each other by their names just gives me more goosebumps
They called each other with their nicknames, they were friends
@@arctifire5709 only best friends have nickname toward each other 😢
There is a terrible sadness in such scenes. You cannot look away; you REFUSE to look away...because somewhere in your heart it feels disrespectful to the dead to avert your gaze.
i'm from caucasian origin, I'm not normally a very tearful person, but this made me cry. I am currently living in Turkey
the video really hits me hard when you hear the story of how those young boys charred to a crisp in compact IFV's.
it just really gets me more than anything else
They all thought they were pretty fucking cool before their IFV's got rocked.
nice pfp
@@blaisevillaume9051 like Americans in there humvees before the IED blows them away.
@@fren2327 *their
@@blaisevillaume9051 dark humor at its finest
I’m a guy who surfs a lot in the internet and I saw a lot of messed up things out there, but these lines between these two men(I’m able to speak russian) hitting me so hard and putting me out of my current situation. Maybe because I’m able to understand them without subtitles.
You can understand emotions in there conversation
не думаю, что знание русского добавляет этому что-то вроде new layer смвсла
Can you tell me what is being said at 1:37?
even with just subtitles it's heartbreaking my dude.
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Full video
“Please, I want us both to survive.”
“Have mercy for their mothers.”
“I don’t have a choice, I have orders.”
This brings a tear to the eye. War creates something that is beautiful at times, human union. Even though what happens during it is the complete opposite. Some of these gems will be remembered for years or decades to come. Maybe not centuries but it will leave a mark for the future. And maybe that mark will help change it.
@@BigBoss1R Don't say this as if they went there with red in their eyes. You may serve the military, but you don't have to follow their ideas. But you do have to follow their orders and kill when it comes to your survival. The enemy fights to survive, you and your brothers-in-arms fight to survive. It's a cycle of violence that ends with "peace treaties" made by people that were far and safe from the war. But not until innocent people and soldiers have lost their lives. I would kill people if I was on the battlefield. My survival, the survival of my brothers-in-arms and the wellbeing of my friends is more important than the guy in my crosshairs. And it would be the same for him.
You will definitely put it on your forehead and arm, rape lover, adorators of the antichrist and his red lens flare eye, alongside your others satan's sleeves. Especially your friends who loves to imply that "this is human nature" and therefore people's that are not like this are "non human".
Absolutely annoying that you try to find romantic situations in war! It ain't the slightest part romantic be that assured!
My adoptive mother only spoke one time over the time she had to flee in WW II. No detail at all! Just too personal.
1989 I have seen a family leaving their Skoda, on the side of the road, and running with two little kids. Second Prague Spring. And you can't imagine how fast they ran... Military soon behind roaring. Maybe not shooting because of German pupils.
The look of fear on the face of the Mother, is really best described with our German wird Angst.
I guess you are quite young.
But pls leave the romantic BS aside out of any war.
Speak English to some of the Ukraine refugees in Germany, or Kurds, Afghan people,
Syria, Jemen, Ugandans... or any language you get along with.
Human unite is the ultimate goal, we can't achieve if the leaders don't let us.
And a leader who doesn't give a Fog about your life, is nobody to follow at all.
@@horscanigunger5098 говоришь правду, война у людей должна ассоциироваться с кучей горящих трупов, расчленёнкой, военными преступлениями, мёртвыми детьми. Поражаюсь дегенератам, которые хотят войны, при этом они не рвутся на фронт, а ведут интернет-войны вскликами о томчто Россия или Украина проигрывает в войне. С анархией у школьников должны быть такие же ассоциации как с войной, а то всё насилие почему-то у школьников романтизировано, даже стрельба в школе
They lived for 70 years happily exsept for 1939-45 but no one had any problems people had free jobs free housing then yeltsin came and runied everything people were trapped in different countries they weren't supposed to be in ridiculous
Why do I keep coming back when this rips me apart everytime? This really is a work of art man.
It's not (artificial) art, it's real.
One of the top comments explains the context.
@@someguy2744 I think the comment was more talking about art as in relation to the montage of the video: the choice of music, footages, cuts, arrangement ect...
Everyone knows that this is a real event.
This is so sad because I think Alik knew he wasn't gonna go back home, but he didn't have a choice. Those brave men died with no support from anyone, though they begged for artillery, helos, ANYTHING all night... The last words that you hear after the conversation between Alik and the Chechen were his and his men's last calls for help, and their agonized screams as the Chechens stormed the railway station...
come on man he had a choice
@@2dcree426 imprisonment was probably the choice
@@thatbasedfeliscatus577 Knowing the Russians history, imprisonment would've been the easy way out.
@@simmerke1111 Knowing russian history? Like Poland got rid of russia by the peaceful solidarity movement? Czechia with the peaceful velvet revolution jingling keys over their head? Latvia, estonia, lithuania by the peaceful balkans way, just holding hands? If the russian people sit down and stop till their army returns then putin is done. If ukraine stops fighting and says they will just sit on the roads, russia fails. Everything in their history says that just saying NO to them causes them collapse. Fighting causes misery for years. He and russia have choices.
@@geroutathat why are you making it seem like these countries stopped a Russia Invasion through peace?!? The Velvet Revolution had nothing to do with an invasion. As for them guys not obeying orders and everything would be fine, wtf are you smoking? There would be major consequences. I mean you are smart enough to know that right? Maybe not tho. You did just try saying if Ukrainians sat in the street Russia would go home. No buddy, Ukrainian e would be Russia now if they just put down their guns. I mean Putins been shelling civilian areas from the start. I do agree with peace but sometimes you gotta let the bully know you aren’t taking their shit no more. Plain and simple
1:44 you can hear someone dying saying "I'm injured, BMP has been knocked out"
I fucking hate humanity
That's heartbreaking
Saddest shit I've ever heard... You can literally hear him struggling to even speak
"Who will win this" in this line i finally now understand why in the times of war there is no winners, there's no victory, there's no price only suffering
no.
agony.
I feel that this is one of the most heartbreaking videos I've ever seen. This is one of those videos that just hits you like a baseball bat. I showed my dad this, and I actually ended up shedding a few tears reading out the subtitles. I wish the US school system would teach about this and the Soviet Afghan war.
I'm in the US military, and I can't imagine the horror of being obligated or forced to fight and kill people and friends I deployed with a few years before.
I was there in the second chechen war. I was a kid so didnt know what was happening. I heard war stories from my relatives who where older
”Only the dead have seen the end of wars.”
-Plato
Alik (the Russian) and Lambada (the Chechnan) were actually old friends. they had served together as comrades in Afghanistan before the USSR broke up.
Neither of them survived this war.
The breakup of USSR was a disaster to human kind
As someone who was deployed in a combat zone this hits hard. Everyone is cold and emotionless until it’s time to fight then that’s when you began to question everything. Like “why am I here” “do the enemy even want to fight or are they just following orders” but you still don’t hesitate because one thing you learn in basic training hesitation can be the difference between going home and being shot and killed
The weird part is captives, especially if you're culturally close. Like the war is half over, but there's still the question of violence is lingering. One of my weirdest moments was bringing a 20 pack of Pepsi for some Narco captives and they were afraid I was about to kill them after the conciliatory gift. I wasn't, I was just making sure they had proper rations. A lot of them were like us militiamen -- teens to thirties, looking for action, down for a good time.
where were you deployed in if you don’t mind mine me asking
@@nahfriu2205 Afghanistan
@@Mortablunt well captives are used to being treated like shit so when they come across someone that actually treats them like a person they are afraid that it might be a ploy and I can’t say that I blame them I can understand where they’re coming from you’re a captive, and you’re alive one day, and they might decide to execute you the next day so there’s always going to be that fear of am I going to die
so sad to be a professional assassin of civilians
Грустно всё это слышать, когда всё понимаешь без перевода. Так же, как и: Мы просили всего 2 танка и сегодня, мы бы не отправляли 23 гроба, их было бы намного меньше. Мы сегодня отправили парня у которого 2 грудных ребенка и теперь они сироты...
Покуй на собак
Нєхуй було їхати сюди.
This brought an actual tear to my eye. I cant imagine having to face someone you care about in a war. May their souls rest in piece.
That moment when you're ordered to attack your friend, and you're too indoctrinated in the ways of nationalist warfare to say "fuck this, I'm out."
@@deusexaethera if he had disobeyed a direct order there's a good chance he could've been beaten disappeared or even put at the front. He had no choice if he had attempted to do anything a superior would've made the executive decision for him. As stated they were dead once they reached the railway station if this isn't proof that the Russian military sees there troops as cannon fodder more than anything.
@@deusexaethera Stupid oversimplification of reality
For anyone curious - both these men were killed within 3 days after this conversation
That's a powerful video. I can put myself in each man's shoes. It's easy to talk tough and say what you would or wouldn't do. Even though I detest my current govt and despise what they're doing I would still fight for my people. There are times when no easy choice can be made and running away isn't an option. I hope both men found peace at the end.
They both died in the conflict. Alik died in the very attack he was warned not to follow through with, and the other, Turpal, died in a later action.
@Arte Floe problem is as the saying goes, the best defense is a good offence. That's why nuclear weapons worked (and still do)
The Russian government doest not consider their war and offensive one, they consider it a defensive war, acting while they still can before it's too late and vassalisation is their only option. That may o not be true but its not like it matters. Some times I think conscience is a curse.
@Arte Floe you clearly haven't been in the army during war, that's why you say this. And before you ask. Yes. I've been. No fighting means you get executed on the spot for disobeying direct orders during war-time
“When they needed us most, we sat there, when others needed us, we sat there, and we are still sitting here, while people are dying and they need our help, but we just sit here, they will not take Ukraine, they will not take peoples homes, even if it get to the last city, the last house, the last room, the last man, the last Clip, the last bullet, TO THE END!”
@@UnknownSoulGuy okey what
I don’t know were u are from but you won’t get endid for not following orders yeh in Rus but seeing from your text u are not because you say you have been stop talking like you know stuff because you don’t and this video for men being stupid no it’s what we do I won’t let any Country take us over I will be the first to register and defend it I’m from the Nederlands and proud of it
This short clip on this war has been stuck with me for weeks, it just hits so hard
чеченская война была очень страшной, а от этой записи все время мурашки по коже, очень душераздирающий диалог
ещё из этого же разряда было видео, где солдат просил 2 танка, но начальство отклонило просьбу и погибло очень много солдат
И еще журналист(вроде), в которого попала пуля, и он такой он убил меня.
@@yomuria куда попала?
@@yomuria what do you mean?
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This had me closer to tears than anything Hollywood has ever put out.
Hollywood releases American propaganda
@@Anonymous-qj3sf 🗿
Because this is real and hollywood is just bullshit fake people
@nightdweller2902
Bcs you are a woman.
ROFL.
This is reality you clown, it's obviously sure that it would be more emotional than any fictional piece. Wake up.
I just learned about Chechen war and this gave me Goosebumps
In der Schule?
I....
@@xaxrxex111x8 speak English
@@wernerheisenberg6806 have your learned about it in school?
@@xaxrxex111x8 no UA-cam
“Have pity for their mothers”
That hurts
This genuinely hit me in the feels bro
Yeah I cant get this video out of my head man
We are all here bro.
Bro this is just too sad
bussin fr lowkey af in the feels bro
@@vaahtobileet stop making fun of him bro
I am of Chechen origin. My family lived there during the war. They told me everything that happened there, and it's just sad, because they didn't have choice but to listen the orders and actually happy as a Chechen to see people notice the Chechen war.
Could have been avoided if yeltsin didn't destroy the union
@@terrorgaming459 if ussr lived it would be worse
@@terrorgaming459 Could have avoided if Russian governement wouldn't try to conquiert and genocide Caucasians and remains in their steppes.
It's 100% Russian's fault, and I believe God will not be so merciful to the war criminals who ruined an entire people life: nothing in there had even worth the massacre of civilans
@@djkajkddopso It's just better if you stop right here.
@@chingis1154 If USSR lived, there would have been not a single war on the territory of post-soviet countries. If the USSR have not collapsed, people (including people from Warsaw pact) would have been ~40 % more richer, given constant 5-8 % GDP growths. Given that average and median salaries were basically the same, the differences between rich and poor would have been minimal. That been said, not a single country from the USSR or the Warsaw pact had reached this quality of life. Millions died in the bloody wars on the post-Soviet territories. Millions died due to drugs, alcohol, gang wars and bad quality of life. It is estimated that due to this events Russian alone has lost more people than in the WW2 ( or at least the numbers are comparable).
But yeah, believe in the anti-Soviet propaganda all you want.
I remember a similar story from I guess the India Pakistan war in 1965. After the partition, two Muslim brothers in the then British Indian Army decided to opt for different countries. By 1965, the older was a Colonel or Brigadier in a tank regiment in the Pakistan Army, while the younger was a newly promoted Major in the Indian Army in a tank regiment.
As the 1965 war progressed, the units of both brothers were on the opposite side to one another. The Pakistani Brother ordered a small team of men to go behind enemy lines and probe the Indian unit for their strength, plans and if possible sabotage their equipment. This small team went out in the dark hours of the morning and finally reached the Indian unit. As the Indians were preparing to attack and warming up and starting their tanks, among the smoke and noise, the small Pakistani unit was able to do its job and assess their strength.
The small Pakistani team, in search of Indian plans tried to look into the tank of the Indian commanding officer probably thinking it was empty. But as they opened up the hatch, they saw a man sitting inside. Before the man was able to shoot back, the Pakistani team shot him, gathered his map and notes and took his epaulettes as a proof of their action to report back to their commander.
When they briefed the Pakistani commander after coming back from their mission, the commander was concerned that they had to shoot an Indian officer, but was glad that they were able to do their mission and come back with valuable intelligence. But when the commander asked for who the officer was and if they had any proof, they gave him his notes and epaulettes. The Pakistani commander broke down, as he recognized the epaulettes of an Indian major in the same unit as his brother was serving in. The Pakistani probing team, perplexed to their commander's reaction would later learn that their commander broke down overridden with guilt and sadness, as he had inadvertently killed his own brother.
You guys could have Greater India Country. But the blindness cause by the Religion people extrimist, not the religion itself destroyed your long everlasting Bond
@@whatintheworld6413 look at the religious extremism in present day South-Asia. Look at today's India and add to that 40 million more Muslims and half a dozen more ethnicities.
Some valid source ?
@@whatintheworld6413 Muslims were being eradicated and exterminated, we had to strive for a separate homeland but what people dont understand is that it wasn't their people that caused this but their government. They hunted my great grand mother and her family. They narrowly escaped with my great grand father having been shot in his shoulder and almost losing his arm to infection. And now, well... As a pakistani muslim, I have nothing against anyone who doesnt have anything against me but I also have everything against the current Indian government and what they stand for. I do hope that those who manipulate the religious convictions and patriotism of our people are punished and I hope all can see the true meaning of the word and way of Islam.
@Bot Master you love spices ?
Wow, that’s one of the most depressing short conversations between to sides in a war that I ever heard. 🥺
"Have pity for their mother" this word can make any guy cry
0:38 Alik said "Я не такой большой начальник, чтоб давать такие команды."
Means "I am not such a big boss (higher rank) to give such orders", not "I can't give this orders", sounds similar but actually has a different meaning.
If Alik retreated, he might get dishonorably dismissed or even arrested for treason, and someone will simply take his place (delay of his troops might also treaten the other safety). So he didn't have choices.
Total 1000+ troops only 160 able to escape and 75 were captured. If Alik didn't command his own troops, there might be barely any survivors spared by enemy's well coordinated ambushes, even though his friend (in this video) warned him that them both will show no mercy in battle.
alot of the translation was very poor and wasn't close to what he was actually saying.
@@arthurkarapetyan6246 yeah I noticed that too, it’s a shame for those who don’t understand the language. I bet they get a whole different perspective…
@@arthurkarapetyan6246 Cooome on, do a full translation please.
I understand the best language in the world, Arabic.
But not Russian, help me out please.
@@AbdoZaInsert
Turpal (The man trying to console Alik)
-Alik, maybe somehow before it’s too late pull back your troops.( he says ребята, but it's more so generalization for troops).
-Alik don’t do this, you dont have to do this.
-Either way Alik, you will die and i will die, what will be the point of that? Try to understand who will win this? We won’t win this with you, don't you understand?
-If you will survive this battle, for better or worse( is how i understood it) i won’t see you the way you see me anymore, do you understand.
-Its better if we meet as guests( he says гости, gocti but its more so friends, than rivals on the battlefield)
-Please, pull back your troops. Dont do this.
-Have pity on their mothers. Pity them for me.
-Give the order.
Alik:
-I am not in such a position to make that order.
Turpal
-Alik you have to understand that, from my heart i wish that you come out of this alive. It would be better if you left.
Alik
-Well i don’t have a choice, i have orders and i will fulfill them in any case
@@AbdoZaInsert there is no such thing as "the best language in the world".
Radio exchange from 1:40
1:40 Boria(name-Boris)! Btr is gone, bliat!
1:42 give us a cover (suppressive fire), f*ck...illegible
1:44 Number 4, I'm wounded, bmp is disabled (he one of the crew members)
1:48 -im number 10, number 11 over
-number 11, (illegible cursing), we are all gonna die, and it is not bulshit (cursing) need immediate solid help
2:00 -artillery is way too close (means its fires way too close), way too f*cking close! On depot, on depot!! Should working(firing) on depot, FFS!
-i understand, going (firing) depot!
2:10 illegible... 70...illegible
2:12 two cars(bmp)...illegible cursing...need to go in a platform (railway station) illegible...and to look on the other side of railway, bliat, and make wet everyone (means kill everyone)...
Thanks for translations
The 1:42 part is scary af
this made my skin crawl, i was at the edge of my seat while reading this.
Idk whether it’s just me but 1:44 sounds like he’s crying
@@tonyrantony3640 He's wounded, from shrapnel or the pressure of the explosion who knows
He was dying pretty much, at least knowing he was about to succomb to his wounds or the "enemy" coming to sweep up
I guess crying could have part of the reason behind such a sad tone..
This makes you feel more than any tv show ever can.
watched this clip many times over the years. still gives me the chills
Context ?
@@rohith2714 this incident is years old
@@jotarodio9801 yall Mfs time travellers or something? It hasn't hasn't been a month.
@@ranianour9282 did you forget these audio logs are more then 50 years old
@@ranianour9282 it all happened back in 1994
the hell are you talking about
More complete version:
On December 31, 1994, the 131st Maikop Brigade and 81st Motorized Rifle Regiment entered Grozny, promising to capture Grozny in 4 hours as a New Year present to President Yeltsin. But they were trapped: they entered the center of the city unhindered, and then they were surrounded. On the morning of January 1, 250 of the 700 federal troops and 100 armored vehicles that had entered Grozny left alive, among whom there were also wounded people and 7 armored vehicles. 450 people were left lying on the streets of Grozny forever. It took four hours to capture Grozny, but the operation itself lasted a long three months and was the beginning of a year and a half of the First Chechen War.
Here is, in fact, the dialogue itself:
[Chechen] Alik, come on, maybe sometime, before it's too late, take the guys away. Alik, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. In any case, Alik, understand, you will die, and I will die. What good will it do? Understand correctly yourself! Who will benefit from it? You and I won't benefit from it, you know! If someone is not happy in Russia, then it must be solved at the government level, but not by force of arms. Politicians...
- [Russian officer] Wait, I... What's your name again?
- [Chechen] Come on, do it. Give the command. Tell your command. Before it's too late, that you've got men left, come on... Take them out of the city. Go away, Alik! Come on, you'd better come later, you and me... You'll visit me. We will... It's all right. But this, the fact that you came now, Alik... Now I see you - you're a great guy, and... If I see you in battle, you know, you're great, not great, already I will not spare you, as well as you me, understand? You'd better come to me as a guest, Alik! Take the guys away! Don't do that. Have pity on their mothers, have pity on them. Take the boys, Alik. Give the command!
- [Russian officer] Well, I'm not so big a boss as to give such commands!
- [Chechen] Alik, understand correctly... I, for example, just from my heart... and... purely, I wish that you stay alive, of course, but... go away better! If others do not leave - go away yourself! Take those who listen to you. Pull back the troops... [Interference] ...in a week... [Interference] ...done... [Interference]
[Russian officer] I have no such choice. I have my orders and I'll carry them out anyway.
Good job bro
Thanks for deeper understanding of this video, you're the best
oh so there are missing parts of the dialogue in the video, interesting.
GJ all correct
You are welcome bros. War is hell.
I understood not everything they said, that wasn't subtitled, but hearing the desperation and sincerity of their speech still worked its way to my soul.
Every time I see this. Tears come out of my eyes.
The bond of men as warriors. The brotherhood.
Very little, if not nothing, can break that.
"Alik, from my heart i wish you survive this, but you better leave"
"I don't have much of a choice"
you can tell he doesn't want to do this, but he has to
Worst part is, they weren't enemies. They were still friends. All that had changed was what bitter old man gave the orders.
One minute for the comrades that died in the war
Chechens heart and balls bigger than whole Russia.
@@kostas149, because of cancer.
@@-_Hatred_- of your fear
@@kostas149 The chechens that BEGGED Putin for permission to invade Ukraine? Lmfao
I'm imagining this with my friends in the service after getting out of the service myself. Talking to those who I'd made a stronger bond with than my own family, begging them, "please, don't throw your life away, and the lives of your men. If you remember the bond we once had, just go. Live another day so maybe after this is all over, we can sit together once again over a meal." It absolutely breaks my heart.
"All we have are orders and our legacy."
-Every male
What these women dont understand is. The moment men do cry. They will be attacked viciously, often by the same type of person who put the article about its okay for men to cry. You wanna know why men always bottle up their emotion?. We cant afford to show weakness. Not a even for a split second.
the boys vs girls meme where girls cry during titanic is so basicass since its 2022 and girls don't cry at titanic no more, no one cries watching titanic at all actually, "these women" you are talking about is fictional meme characters and you act like as if they violated you into depression lol
the thing about those type of sentences people say like "why men always bottle up their emotion? cause we can't afford to show weaknesses" makes it cringe because sometimes its true and sometimes its false, women also bottle up their emotions, and not all men bottle up their emotion, what you did was take 50/50 out of both genders and talk as if those 50/50 was 100/100
@@sofaezez6608 you wrong lul
@@sofaezez6608 Men > women. It's that simple.
@@sofaezez6608 Cringe take
@@saitamanation2147 incel.
As someone born in a military family, whose family did see more than their share of war and I did see someone very close to me make some backbreaking and crippling choices, I know how deep this conversation hits. A strong enemy is something you pray not to have but once you do and if you are after living far more beyond your life, then that enemy is something to cherish. It will, most probably kill you, but then again you shall never die.
According to one of the top comments (maybe it's unreliable information), these two served together before this engagement (Battle of Grozny, Chechen War).
(Turpal Ali-Atgeriyev and Ivan Alikssevich Savin)
The saddest thing is that the same thing is and will be happening in the current Russia-Ukraine situation, given the fact that Russian soldiers have friends/relatives in Ukraine and vice versa.
Nah u can't compare these two Ukraine is nothing compared to The chechen war it was basically hell on Earth over 10.000 Russians and 30.000 chechen died maybe even more
@@gutssk7428 I'm not talking about numbers and comparing the intensities.
Yes sad truth
@@gutssk7428 as of march 23rd, 7.000 to 15.000 russian troops are estimated to be dead already so we are certainly getting there lol
@@yp.7440 From which source the media? Reddit? Lmaoo nobody's knows what's going on there don't believe everything u here Ukraine and Russian probaganda are the same I don't believe any shit from both sides
the way he said the last line and the fact that i am Serbian and can understand half of this makes it so chilling and cool at the same time
Another sad thing is that they both died in the first days of battle in Grozny. The man who said the words "Alik, retreat your men" is Ali Adaev "Lambada", he died the next day after the death of russian commander Ivan Savin "Alik".
"Kropp on the other hand is a thinker.
He proposes that a declaration of war should be a kind of popular festival with entrance-tickets and bands, like a bull fight.
Then in the arena the ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves.
Whoever survives, his country wins.
That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting."
- All Quiet on the Western Front
This. the solution if there was no options to war , instead the people that now want this war is the one who fight while the higher ups are behind them
Champion fighting is so bronze age, man. People today want to use their technological toys.
@@anon2034 also the country that loses can just say fuck it and invade anywayn lol
@@anon2034 a match of CS:GO then, or maybe StarCraft II
I can imagine there would be a lot less wars if the politicians had to fight it out, seems like none of them really want to get their hands dirty
Just don't tell mom I'm in Chechnya
Better , tell mom , that im at Ukraine xd
bro your in cuba
10/10 video bro, Chechen war is some brutal stuff, RIP to all involved.
Hell to all occupators!!
"Alik, from my heart, I wish that you survive this, but you better leave" - I felt that.
And I don't have this option, I have a command and I'm gonna execute it in any case.
@@User-dc6sm it's tough choice, both of the choice he pick isn't worth it.
Not enough people know about the Chechen Wars. If they did, they would see the current invasion of Ukraine in a much darker light. This will be an ever escalating horror show.
People, especially younger men and women from the west, who are now expressing any level of pro-russia sentiments in an effort to be edgy or contrarian, are woefully and tragically unaware of the horrifying and bone-chilling disregard for human life and suffering and the true cruelty of the meat grinder that is Russian imperialism. People get lost in political narratives and forget to be human and have human responses to things
In an effort to hide Russia's losses and its tactics in this conflict, the legacy war machine that Russia inherited from USSR is refusing as we speak, to even acknowledge and retrieve the corpses of fresh conscripts it sent into Ukraine. Full information blackout and zero regard for your own people first of all. Much like the USSR that fed its own children to the German war machine like coals to fire, suffering catastrophic avoidable casualties. It's just the nature of the beast. Dehumanize, deny, destroy
Why didnt they just surrender then?
@UwU i dont see a single point in these wars. If it wasnt for nationalistic low iq pawns there wouldnt be no wars. If it is such an honor to die for your country why do we never see the rich or powerfull going for it? They sit in safety while these knobheads try to kill each other for their "leaders"meanwhile their lifes wont even improve after they win. Absolute cringe fighting for anyone besides yourself
@@npill2403 you absolute degenerate, if you genuinely need to ask a question like that you're a lost cause beyond helping
"..its better if you come to me as a guest.."
"I will remember your bravery and the day that you decided not to surrender but the day i will be dead no one will remember your courage."
"My struggle is easier as it expels the invaders, but your struggle will be more difficult as it will be against your own countrymen"
Ir soekarno (first president of Republic of Indonesia)
Good one bro, cheers from your brother-in-arms, Malaysia.
"Even enemies can have respect for each other"
- General Katsumoto
They aren’t enemies, they were friends who were in opposing sides because Russia didn’t want Chechen independence
@@vasiliantonov7484 Can you really blame Russia here though. Chechnya is in the Caucasus, which is essentially Russia's life blood both resource and financial wise. It'd be like if Texas seceded from the US... the US government wouldn't just stand by and let that happen.
@@vasiliantonov7484 Yes, they are.
This video damn near brought a tear to my eye. Two men who were once brothers in arms facing an ultimatum of having to fight and kill one another or disobey orders and having to face dire consequences of nations that give extreme punishments for those decisions. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Да не умер он в конце тизера
the fact that this happened within living memory is utterly insane.... it's horrible to know that people who survived the Chechen war are now fighting and dying again in yet another war
Why? Chechens lost the second war. Russia integrated them as rurals and turned them into cannon fodder. That is how Russia has worked for centuries. Countless nations and tribes have been destroyed this way.
@@zcrib3 Chechens appear to actually be fighting for both sides from what I've seen, but yeah the way Russia conducts itself is straight out of the 1800s when it comes to this sort of thing. The human life isn't quite as valuable over t here.
This audio record is heart break, but if sabaton make a song about them, i swear i will totally cry in tears uncontrollably
Pois é. Também espero
Stfu about sabaton
@@necrodzentelmenel8702 no
sabaton more like sabacringe
@@thishandleistaken1011 you smell like the local garbage man
"Have pity on their mothers" it tells you what you need to know about that man
I only speak English and Spanish, I can still hear the anger, sadness and resolve in both of them. just a heart break.
"А я такого выбора не имею. У меня есть приказ и я его выполню в любом случае!"
Коротко и емко. Понимать такое, а главное действовать по такому принципу - черта любого НАСТОЯЩЕГО офицера любой страны, национальности и веры.
удивлен что иностранцы пропускают мимо ушей эти самые важные слова
плевать что ты хочешь, плевать что ты можешь, главное - то что ты ДОЛЖЕН
только после второй мировой именно этот принцип отразился в бою за высоту 3234 в Афгане, штурме Грозного, обороне высоты 776, в Беслане, в Пятидневной войне, в Крыму в 2014, в подвиге Олега Пешкова, Романа Филиппова, Александра Прохоренко в САР, подвиг жителей Донецка, выдержавших блокаду и обстрелы со стороны украины, во множестве подвигов в СВО - небесная тысяча, повторение подвига Гастелло, бой 2-й отдельной бригады спецназа в Харькове и многие другие случаи, когда был приказ, и плевать что требовалось, плевать получится ли, задача должна быть выполнена любой ценой, ведь хоть сколько-то отобьем, дадим возможность нашим, заберем с собой как можно больше врагов или в замен своих спасем тысячи жизней, чтобы весь мир помнил и знал - Не воюйте с Русскими, ведь каждый русский стоит сотню, каждый русский офицер тысячу, а вся армия, если поступит приказ, весь мир превратит в труху.
Да