Rapid and inexpensive COVID-19 tests are available that would remove the restrictions that are placed upon us. Michael Mina, MD, PhD is on faculty at Harvard and has a website the provides the details about these tests (rapidtests.org). This type of testing is what we need to allow businesses and schools to open. The ineffectiveness of lockdowns and masks are demonstrated very clearly in California.
I am moved to express my immense gratitude for the CDHD's deliberate actions to protect the lives of the community they serve. My sincere condolences to Commissioner Lachiondo and her recent loss and my admiration for her strength to persevere through very difficult times. The thoroughness and granular level of detail that this board applies to the decisions necessary to save lives during this unprecedented time is a tribute to the pedigree of those that serve on it. If the world only took this pandemic as seriously as you all do we could come together that much faster and with far less loss of life and suffering. Excellent job!
1:30:20 - 1:31:20 Thank you, Dr. Epperly. Great advice. Great reminders. Thank you for working to keep our gyms open and mentioning the importance of exercise, but ALSO the responsibility we all have to keep each other safe while doing so. Thank you, as well, to the others who recognized the data and statistics showing that CURRENTLY, gyms are not showing high numbers of community spread. Thank you for recognizing the importance of exercise for mental, physical and emotional well-being and working to responsibly keep the gyms open. Also, sincere condolences to Commissioner Lachiondo and her family during this time with the death of her family member.
I have a question (which I doubt will get answered). The CDC says that the covid19 amd sars family incubation period is 2-14 days, with that being the case HOW can you know where anyone got covid19? How can you base it off of, say family gatherings, when unless for 14 days everyone who went to a family gathering, didnt go anywhere else, be with anyone else and then tested positive, how do you know it was due to a family gathering?
@@thoms829 Seems to be the case. They seem to take some but not all of the information. For example, if I were to ask why they say masks work they'd most likely point to studies like the one from the WHO. However i can show RCT's that show that N95 masks are either ineffect or inconslusive against aresolized viruals. The studies showing any efficacy of masks in positive are all non-rct which means they are biased. This is doing something for the sake of doing something.
So, while I appreciate a metric being developed with, finally, an effort at data analysis, I wonder why the base lines of less than 25 per day and/or less than 175 per week were chosen. These seem random, optimistic for sure for where we seem to be--presuming we can trust the positive numbers, the accuracy of tests (a huge question not ever addressed, that being false negatives and false positives inherent in testing)--but. in proportion to the overall population and the presumed recovered numbers in the statistical gap, are levels we will not see until the virus has eventually run its course. This metric is set up to give this Board a level of authority I don't' believe it should have, which wouldn't be a problem if this Board also exercised appropriate discretion, which they don't seem to be doing. I am also struck by the several discussions of "clusters" centered around the prison and the Ada County jail--the only set of numbers provided for clusters. Surely, in terms of community transmission, these are not also the largest source of community sources identified by this Board in backyard barbeques and private gatherings; that data has yet been shared with the public. The separate set of graphs demonstrating the contribution of the prison cluster helps, but the Ada County Jail cluster was not included as well. Also, the prison cluster that is exploding the positives, is beyond the community to control, even wearing masks, eye protection, and social distancing. It isn't like swarms of inmates are released into the community every day, is it? So, then, why are all of the rest of the county being subjected to another restriction that can''t/won't be enforced? The statement that less than 10 encompasses only immediate family makes assumptions that every family is small; many are not. I wish Representative Blanksma represented me in Ada County, and that someone else in Ada County did represent me better. Dr. Epperly seems like he's trying very hard, which I appreciate, however, he is not my father, I did not ask him or anyone else on this Board to think for me, to try to force me to behave in a manner they feel necessary. Thank you for not closing gyms. Data is showing that mortality is most prevalent in comorbid populations (The Lancet (www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext#seccesectitle0013), obesity being the largest single group within that comorbidity, even high glucose levels make people vulnerable without being obese (www.nature.com/articles/s42255-020-0237-2#Sec12), and "There may come a point at which the number of lives lost from economic, social, and psychological consequences of different policy decisions will outweigh the number of lives lost from infection." (JAMA, August 4, 2020, Tyler J. VanderWeele, PhD, "Challenges Estimating Total Lives Lost in COVID-19 Decision"), so not shutting down gyms gives people a means to combat hypoglycemia and up their resistance, offers an outing and activities that prevent depression, thereby offering another avenue of prevention less inured in fear and more practical, though I recognize a little more nebulous to measure since it is impossible to measure a negative number of people clogging hospitals and ERs. If chip and soda manufacturers were shutdown, we might see a better long-term resistance to this and other viruses and pandemics we are sure to see in the future, which is about as ridiculous as holding me responsible for a cluster in the prison.
Rapid and inexpensive COVID-19 tests are available that would remove the restrictions that are placed upon us. Michael Mina, MD, PhD is on faculty at Harvard and has a website the provides the details about these tests (rapidtests.org). This type of testing is what we need to allow businesses and schools to open. The ineffectiveness of lockdowns and masks are demonstrated very clearly in California.
Please for the future could you have everyone turn on their camera so we can see who they are please? I like to see who's taking my rights.
I am moved to express my immense gratitude for the CDHD's deliberate actions to protect the lives of the community they serve. My sincere condolences to Commissioner Lachiondo and her recent loss and my admiration for her strength to persevere through very difficult times.
The thoroughness and granular level of detail that this board applies to the decisions necessary to save lives during this unprecedented time is a tribute to the pedigree of those that serve on it.
If the world only took this pandemic as seriously as you all do we could come together that much faster and with far less loss of life and suffering.
Excellent job!
1:30:20 - 1:31:20 Thank you, Dr. Epperly. Great advice. Great reminders. Thank you for working to keep our gyms open and mentioning the importance of exercise, but ALSO the responsibility we all have to keep each other safe while doing so. Thank you, as well, to the others who recognized the data and statistics showing that CURRENTLY, gyms are not showing high numbers of community spread. Thank you for recognizing the importance of exercise for mental, physical and emotional well-being and working to responsibly keep the gyms open. Also, sincere condolences to Commissioner Lachiondo and her family during this time with the death of her family member.
I have a question (which I doubt will get answered). The CDC says that the covid19 amd sars family incubation period is 2-14 days, with that being the case HOW can you know where anyone got covid19? How can you base it off of, say family gatherings, when unless for 14 days everyone who went to a family gathering, didnt go anywhere else, be with anyone else and then tested positive, how do you know it was due to a family gathering?
Feelings don't care about your science
@@thoms829 Seems to be the case. They seem to take some but not all of the information. For example, if I were to ask why they say masks work they'd most likely point to studies like the one from the WHO. However i can show RCT's that show that N95 masks are either ineffect or inconslusive against aresolized viruals. The studies showing any efficacy of masks in positive are all non-rct which means they are biased. This is doing something for the sake of doing something.
So, while I appreciate a metric being developed with, finally, an effort at data analysis, I wonder why the base lines of less than 25 per day and/or less than 175 per week were chosen. These seem random, optimistic for sure for where we seem to be--presuming we can trust the positive numbers, the accuracy of tests (a huge question not ever addressed, that being false negatives and false positives inherent in testing)--but. in proportion to the overall population and the presumed recovered numbers in the statistical gap, are levels we will not see until the virus has eventually run its course. This metric is set up to give this Board a level of authority I don't' believe it should have, which wouldn't be a problem if this Board also exercised appropriate discretion, which they don't seem to be doing. I am also struck by the several discussions of "clusters" centered around the prison and the Ada County jail--the only set of numbers provided for clusters. Surely, in terms of community transmission, these are not also the largest source of community sources identified by this Board in backyard barbeques and private gatherings; that data has yet been shared with the public. The separate set of graphs demonstrating the contribution of the prison cluster helps, but the Ada County Jail cluster was not included as well. Also, the prison cluster that is exploding the positives, is beyond the community to control, even wearing masks, eye protection, and social distancing. It isn't like swarms of inmates are released into the community every day, is it? So, then, why are all of the rest of the county being subjected to another restriction that can''t/won't be enforced? The statement that less than 10 encompasses only immediate family makes assumptions that every family is small; many are not. I wish Representative Blanksma represented me in Ada County, and that someone else in Ada County did represent me better. Dr. Epperly seems like he's trying very hard, which I appreciate, however, he is not my father, I did not ask him or anyone else on this Board to think for me, to try to force me to behave in a manner they feel necessary. Thank you for not closing gyms. Data is showing that mortality is most prevalent in comorbid populations (The Lancet (www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext#seccesectitle0013), obesity being the largest single group within that comorbidity, even high glucose levels make people vulnerable without being obese (www.nature.com/articles/s42255-020-0237-2#Sec12), and "There may come a point at which the number of lives lost from economic, social, and psychological consequences of different policy decisions will outweigh the number of lives lost from infection." (JAMA, August 4, 2020, Tyler J. VanderWeele, PhD, "Challenges Estimating Total Lives Lost in COVID-19 Decision"), so not shutting down gyms gives people a means to combat hypoglycemia and up their resistance, offers an outing and activities that prevent depression, thereby offering another avenue of prevention less inured in fear and more practical, though I recognize a little more nebulous to measure since it is impossible to measure a negative number of people clogging hospitals and ERs. If chip and soda manufacturers were shutdown, we might see a better long-term resistance to this and other viruses and pandemics we are sure to see in the future, which is about as ridiculous as holding me responsible for a cluster in the prison.
Using the word safety as a hammer pounding Nails into the coffin of freedom.
That dude with the stache needs to be fired pronto
Russ needs to be fired too. All freaking stupid bs