Rare Chord: Nem7add4‡9‡11‡13 (harmony in 31-edo)
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2023
- a dense piano etude exploring the Nem7add4 in 31-equal (R - 2 - ⇂3 - 4 - 5 - b7) in it's various formations and extensions. i spent a lot of time considering the treatment of vertical structure in neutral harmony.
there are a lot of very useful neutral qualities. here are some of my general thoughts at the moment:
1) neutral structures voice better with a P4 and b7.
2) ‡2 right next to ⇂3 above an open octave is a very nice quality
3) omitting the fifth from the bass often makes the vertical structure more concordant for neutral structures - neutral makes this a tempting trap inviting people to treat it like major which is where people often get dissatisfied with neutral sound.
4) 17-tone mohajirian set continued to pop up and tempt me but i continue to be drawn to the P4 and b7 variation of neutral structure which isn't in the mos or 2nd level modmos. I also don't prefer the neH7 combination. I guess in some ways mixolydian ⇂3 might be the best way to describe what i'm drawn to in 31's neutral but that system closes at the octave and this base quality ultimate connects back to the 17 note mohajirian chain. the 17-note mohajira chain is amazing though except the 15th extension
5) Nem7add4 is essentially 9:11:12:16 frame. 31 offers a nice take on this. 63:72:77:84:103 is also very notable.
5) found a great voicing for a deep superjira motherchord will post later. superjira is what i call the 12-17 note, well spaced, 5 octave tonality generated by the neutral temperament in 31edo (mohajira). there are many subvariations of superjira explored here as well but since it's a deep 12-15 note structure. i'll eventually make a vid specifically on the nuances of neutral. :)
6) ‡19 on top again to close structures in 31 seems to remain effective in the neutral spaces
check out: • Rare Chord: Maj7‡11‡15...
please note there a variety of "description" formats occurring this video such as interval function, just ratio approximations, modal descriptions, etc.
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abstract functions in theory (on piano) ...or on guitar where as well prctical use of abstract patterns are possible....are just nice for atonality .
since the basic function of music is actually just 1 or 5 ..., the more u use atonality , the basic function of modulations is not heared anymore...becouse all sounds atonal.
so its nice to know the way to do this for a quick atonal lick on guitar , i never used it to write something like this.... i stick closer to the basics to make at least something that sound nice to the ear ...
this is what sheet music looks like when you first start learning it
i felt similarly when starting to notate 31. it’s intuitive if you play with it!
@@ZheannaErose What do you make your music with?
How can something sounds so chromatic and so harmonic at the same time
Edit: microtones
mmmmmmicrotones
Rhythm.
@@Paby39 i don’t think the tones have to do with rhythm
The chromatic stuff is the most harmonic in my opinion.
Harmony and rhythm
you know, sometimes I'm glad 31TET is a thing mostly because you get to bring the joy of listening to it to us!
What's that
@@catsupempire3920 octave is divided into 31 notes instead of 12
@@gp3874 ”octave” 😂
@@HafJaf Is there a problem with what they said?
@@annearborr octa means 8, which is based off of the 12TET system
This G dorian db7 chord at 0:22-0:24 is unironically sick asf, even with the microtones it’s super pleasant and listenable
Yesss, this was my favorite part. There and 0:41
"Even with the microtones"
*no, because of the microtones*
sounds like something out of zelda
@@pluspenguin bro I was literally thinking that
It just sounds like a dorian arp with a fat chorus effect on one note tbh
I don't know NEARLY enough about music theory to understand what the heck is going on here, but this is a beautiful piece of music.
this sounds so goofy, is just llike overcomplicating music for the sake of doing it 💀
@@aa-nh4gg it’s not a song, it’s more like a study of tones, just showing off chords based around quarter tones and stuff
@@aa-nh4gg music is all preference there is no good or bad music please grow as a person
@@uplay8796 yup, it´s a study not a song, the guy below me is actually right lmao
@@smurphas6119 i am actually writing pieces i find musically fulfilling and using them to exemplify harmony to share beauty i find with others. this is a study but that doesnt mean its not a serious composition or consideration.
Aw yeah starting my day off with some Unhinged Mega-Jazz, as the gods surely intended
Super cool. Between the stuff you have been putting out and the stuff that mannfish has been doing, this style of video is starting to feel more like microtonal research, spending time honing in on a small corner of the microtonal universe and seeing what its about. Love mannfishs interval studies. I hope more people jump on this style, myself included.
Thank you! I think we are both microtonal-pilling a lot of people at the moment. His work is awesome and I hope to see more sound and music focused creators sharing microtonal beauty.
I will not stop micmaxxing
This is my first introduction to your channel and what a blast it is, never heard anything outside of 12-tet sound so good
literally same here, sooooo enchantingly pleasant!!!!!
x3
as a whole, it's incredible, but some parts of this really really make my heart sing 😊
this is the first microtonal song ive heard that is actually pleasing to the ears i love this so much
genuinely beautiful harmonies what the fuckk
thank you!
I am shocked at how easy to grasp this sounds. (Sounds, mind you, lol. Doubt it's easy to grasp conceptually)
Despite being so experimental and alien, there is a real musicality to it. Kinda showcases how far our brains can go in identifying and resonating with patterns I guess.
Sethares describes a period of time in his book where he just kept stretching the octave and got used to it quickly, much to the dismay of a close friend upon hearing his experiments.
my lord. so beautiful unhappy right now. glad this relieved some of my stress
This is some of the most fresh stuff I’ve heard in a long time. Thank you for sharing with us!
the cadence at 0:39 through 0:45 is so pretty. Tf even is that
I cant stop replaying it
Reminds me of Nahre Sol’s playing ❤
Absolutely luscious! You're reawakening a fire in this long-lapsed composer. Going to listen to more of your work. With joy and thanks!
Can't stop listening to it, amazing work
The quick movements surrounding the strikingly clear bell like chords are simply gorgeous. Good stuff!
Man I go crazy thinking about the studies you are coming up with, magnificent!
Gado dms
not often do i hear something that takes my mind to a new place
I love finding stuff like this due to the sheer absurdity of the sounds. When you listen to more mainstream music, chances are you can pinpoint who they take inspiration from because their music shares similarities. but when it comes to pieces like this, it's so beautifully unique to the artist, expressing what they wish through their knowledge of music theory and unrestrained by what others may think. I'll definitely give your other stuff a look, just maybe not while I'm supposed to be working lmao
Stunning! This is the kind of music where it feels so right you feel like it was simply discovered
I really like this. The expanded palette of notes and intervals seems to beckon me from a preoccupation with the past, and instead point me toward the uncharted future where self expression and creativity are all you have to go on.
this tickles a veeeery specific itch in my brain. Love it!
your knack for finding such beautiful microtonal chords and showing people like me just what’s possible in different tunings is so lovely. thank you so much for sharing it
Thanks for the genera thoughts in the description, very helpful 🐬
Whoa-this was awesome!!
Holy crap! I had no idea you were the same person from transvoicelessons! This makes me so happy because I love experimenting with microtonal music. This is such a great coincidence that the two channels you have have stuff I love!
@@mikesmith6422 shush
Gross
The work of this lady is something really unique. Amazing.
Gorgeous! I love it!
peculiar harmonies made captivating composition 👌
what the holy frigging hamburders, how does one become as amazing at this as you are?
So beautiful !
idk how to put it but this sounds like what a giant isopod thinks of
👍👍
I like giant isopod I agree
31 TET is so sparkling and beautiful. I'm glad it's a thing and I'm glad I know about it! 🙂
This was mesmerizing
A truly intellectual exercise. I always put this one on to get in the right headspace for my babysitting gig.
Beautiful and mind bending!
I have perfect pitch, and I understand 12 tone at an extremely deep level. I can always just understand what's going on musically in many ways, whether by hearing it and understanding chord progression, interesting voicing, etc etc.
There's something absolutely wonderful about the feeling of hearing something entirely new to the way I process music. I've been obsessed with your content for the last couple days, and I don't see this obsession going away very soon.
so many ideas in one minute that i cant stop replaying
I love this because no one would ever know you played a bum note. Perfect for me…
i would know
@@ZheannaErose if that’s true then I’m never playing in-front of you as I’m a rubbish musician.
sounds amazing
pure inspiration for microtonal music
How is this actually being played? Can't imagine being able to read such music quickly enough and having enough fingers and brain power to process it all in real time. Or being able to memorise it all. Interesting for me as an experiment using computers and pre programming though, but imho half or more of the beauty of music is in the real-time playing of a person plus instrument and their input to it. My personal enjoyment of sitting down at the piano and playing something that really moves and transports me, as well as listening to others play. For me it's what sends shivers down my spine and puts tears in my eyes. But each to their own. I do admire the skill of being able to produce this sort of music and the dedication of people who do it and work out all the harmony though. But I think 12 edo became popular for good and practical reasons as well as being able to produce truely beautiful music. As a piano tuner, I am also thinking of the nightmare of how to tune such an instument if it were an acoustic one!
I think this one is played back through the notation software, but Zhea plays the Lumatone in many of her videos. This would be revelatory to hear played by a human, it would lose a lot of rhythmic precision which might be something it needs as an etude to convey intent strongly (considering the wildly xenharmonic upper structures!). Like you, I also prefer a human touch to songwriter-type music, and find this to be a fundamentally different type (which I enjoy for other reasons)
This is so amazing!
It's completely different system but it sounds so beautiful. It's obvious you've put many effort in this and found the intervals thats fits nicely. I hope more people would jump into this music because it can open so many ways to how we perceive music.
I needed to hear this so much
It reminds of those certain aphex twin tracks that are precious to me
Thank you for blessing my ears…
0:12 This chord sounds SO NICE
This is beautiful
Microcromatocal wonder. Love it. A lot of interesting ideas in one video.
This thing is weirdly beautiful
Love the microtonal notes!
Thanks! Every pitch in this piece is technically microtonal. This is written in 31-notes per octave. ♥️
This was a unique experience
Absolutely enthralling! Evocative of Wurtz.
31 holy cow very impressive sounds nice
its not even that like bad sounding, I kinda like it, its mysterious
how does this sound so incredibly awesome and consonant
I find the harmony fascinating though I imagine the dimwits who dislike this are probably thrown off by the impressionistic rhythms. I think a genuine composition composed like a ballad with consistent rhythms, ostinatos and a lyrical melody using the 32 edo would be awesome and more accessable, even mind expanding, to the average listener.
Instantly subscribed!
beautiful
I thought I knew most music theory... now I'm not sure)
Really cool stuff. Sounds 🤯-ing. Espetially if you have perfect pitch
perfect for some tense-chill time.
I have no idea what’s going on but this is so cool
truly a rare chord
This is great. You’re great.
One day i'll come back to this and understand the harmony, for me right now it's just some weird random piano smashing, many people are saying it sounds aqesome but i don't understand.
If one day I come back and am able to understand it, it would be so magical
I know this is not 12 tone music, but Arnold Schoenberg would be delighted. I certainly am! Astonishing work. Bravo!
Rare chord keep it rare 🔥🔥🔥
This is why I absolutely love Microtonal music. I would totally love to hear this kind of music used in a game soundtrack or something, it would be very interesting
This is so beautiful i wish all music sounded like this
The last chord aligned my chakras
Super cool!
excellent
that last chord is insane
Good lord this HIT
im not quite at the point that i can unironically listen to this yet. hoping to get there soon.
what. :DDD this is mindblowing. like opening a secret door to another dimension
Methinks I'll be showcasing your videos during one or two of my music theory classes in the future 🤭
that's one way to get my attention
This is an alien type of beauty
I love jazz!
Amazing.
I am so tempted to sample this
so true
this is cool asl
this westside gunn track goes crazy
microtonal madness, love it!
Impressive!
Finally! I found the Sheet of that Spongebo Episode in which Squidward wakes up in chrome Bikini Bottom. Awesome!
this last chord OMG
I thought I had a grasp of music theory until I read your description for this video lol.
I'm so confused but so fascinated
ABSOLUTELY BEATIFUL!!! To me it sounds like a fusion of ahmad jamal and cecil taylor
Superjiras chords is so Beautiful! Atmosphere like some pop songs)
Love it!
Souds amazing
I always believed the Future(today) would be full of wild microtonals and more, that was 30 years ago, just finding you today, thanks!
Brilliant... instant subscribe