Struggling With Homosexuality?

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  • @joshuakampamba9061
    @joshuakampamba9061 10 місяців тому +50

    When you said " you may struggle with this for your entire life until you free in heaven" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @spencerhinds2803
      @spencerhinds2803 6 місяців тому +6

      Its equal parts funny and sad the number of deeply closeted people in this comment section that think theyre going to hell if they have sex with another dude. Like, why would god care about that 😭

    • @josecastellanos9713
      @josecastellanos9713 5 місяців тому

      ​@@spencerhinds2803Are you gay?

    • @spencerhinds2803
      @spencerhinds2803 5 місяців тому +6

      @@josecastellanos9713 no actually, im a straight guy. If i was gay i would be accepting of it because i love myself and dont hate based on someones romantic or sexual preferences. But if i was gay, how would that change your opinion on what i said? You said it as if you were accusing me of something

    • @jonsamxav
      @jonsamxav 5 місяців тому

      If you believe in God then ask Him to show you why. God hates all sin, many of which seem unimportant to us but He just knows more than we do. He's God. I'm a former athiest and lgbtq....but after coming to Christ, I can confidently say God freely reveals His ways and gives understanding. I'm being fr bro not trolling. He's real and alive. @@spencerhinds2803

    • @andresgalindo7682
      @andresgalindo7682 4 місяці тому +8

      THIS IS WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT , we are not here to "be happy" as the pagan world wants us to believe, we are here to GAIN HEAVEN, that´s the only purpose of life.

  • @SillyDillyVlogs
    @SillyDillyVlogs Рік тому +54

    I live in depression almost everyday thinking about how I’m gay. I don’t want to be. I love Jesus and I don’t understand why I’m this way i seriously can’t help it. I think about suicide from it. I won’t actually do it. And I don’t want anyone to think i want attention by saying that. I’m just being honest and I don’t want my depression/thoughts get stronger. I don’t love myself. I’m insecure about everything. And I wish Jesus would just show up out of no where and show me how much he loves me. I just want a hug from him that will take all my worries away and change me with delivering me out of this cage I’m in.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 11 місяців тому +9

      Love is not a sin.
      You aren’t broken just because other people think they know you better than God.

    • @Fabian7227
      @Fabian7227 10 місяців тому +6

      I feel like i could have written that myself. I just go day in and day out with this weight on my shoulders, and as a result i turn to drugs and alcohol to alíviate the pain. It doesn’t work but i just hate having these feelings towards other men.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 8 місяців тому +5

      Too f***ing relatable. It hurts so much.

    • @daniel-nc8tf
      @daniel-nc8tf 7 місяців тому +2

      Same what the fuck

    • @Bruuuuu21
      @Bruuuuu21 4 місяці тому +2

      I love you all 🥹, not in a sexual way but just as human beings

  • @deanphillips6239
    @deanphillips6239 3 роки тому +267

    I struggle with these feelings. However through my Father Jesus Christ I have denounced the lifestyle. SATAN had me believe I was "born Gay"....my Saviour JESUS says I am "Born Again".

    • @loganmcdonald7422
      @loganmcdonald7422 3 роки тому +42

      Don't do that to yourself. Satan didn't make you gay; nothing did. To struggle with your own feelings about who you love is unnatural and it's going to eat you up. If you don't learn to accept that, you're never going to be truly happy. I'm truly sorry this is happening to you :)

    • @jamesbrandow1703
      @jamesbrandow1703 3 роки тому +24

      Hi Dean, I struggle with them too, and I know right where you are. The previous comment got it all wrong. I’ve “fallen” a couple of times, but God has always protected me and brought me back. He reminds me daily of the rewards of the overcomer. He wants me to be that pillar in His temple. He wants me to receive the crowns He has waiting for me so I can cast them at his feet in the most profound state of worship I could imagine. I want them too, and that’s the motivation, it’s just so hard to really believe that it’s all true. That one day each of us will stand before Him and be rewarded for denouncing our flesh and walking with Him. How do I not look back like Lots wife? I yearn for a male friend who understands. But my walk is my own, my struggles belong to me, and no one else. I encourage you to keep the faith, to finish the race and to win the prize. Blessings on you and your walk through this life. May Jesus be your courage and strength brother.

    • @deanphillips6239
      @deanphillips6239 3 роки тому +13

      @@jamesbrandow1703 Thank you so much James for understanding. You nailed it. God Bless.

    • @theredalpha7290
      @theredalpha7290 3 роки тому +6

      @@loganmcdonald7422
      Bisexual with Christian parents. 🙂
      It’s fun. Very stressful.

    • @wokery
      @wokery 3 роки тому +10

      as a lesbian, know that your feelings aren’t at all sinful and you should be able to accept yourself. don’t listen to a community that tells you your natural feelings will send you to hell. sending much love !

  • @notofworld2513
    @notofworld2513 2 роки тому +65

    I repented for my lesbianism and now my desire is gone....❤️....I was married and I got a divorce from my ex wife. Now I love Jesus........before Christianity used to make me angry but now I love Jesus......I will remain single unless god send me a handsome kind hearted man.

    • @willwowxdrice642
      @willwowxdrice642 Рік тому +1

      You were likely going through a phase as most young adults do or your just hiding from yourself to this day 😢

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +3

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @BigMythicLizard
      @BigMythicLizard Рік тому +2

      @@Grokford I’m am definitely going to look in to this later. I’ve pushed away from Christianity because of all the hate I have to deal with from my school, church, and family, just for being a lesbian. Christians are supposed to love one another, but all the hate filled Christians around me pushed me more towards atheism. Thank you so much for sharing your verses, kind internet stranger

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +2

      @@BigMythicLizard
      I’m so glad to be of help,
      I’d also recommend finding a Queer congregation if you can find one, even online; I’d thought I’d gotten over my discomfort with being a Queer Christian until I found an entire group of people in the same situation and I felt the relief wash over me.
      I hope things can become clear and I pray that God guide you to your next step.

    • @TonySkeelz
      @TonySkeelz Рік тому +1

      I pray you continue in the love of Christ Jesus and not stray away from the gospel. There are so many false doctrines out there that perverts the gospel and the idea of love and try to get you to stray away from the love God has for you and they want you to go back to your old ways. Keep on pressing on. God loves you.

  • @PeterJohnJnb
    @PeterJohnJnb 3 роки тому +65

    "Struggle is actually a good thing" - Ps. You cannot know what that just meant and did for me.
    I'm starting to accept that my struggle with same sex attraction is going to be part of whatever plans God has for me in the future to reach more people, who - like me...have this struggle.
    If I didn't have it - they wouldn't relate, and neither would I.
    Thank you for posting this video.

    • @deanphillips6239
      @deanphillips6239 3 роки тому +4

      Thank you . Id like to belive my struggles are going to be a blessing I yet cant see. God bless

    • @homosexualitywithgod8473
      @homosexualitywithgod8473 3 роки тому

      homosexualitywithgod.com/f/chapter-5-gay-conversion-therapy Gay conversion therapy works for some people. For others like myself, it didn't work.

    • @PeterJohnJnb
      @PeterJohnJnb 3 роки тому +4

      @@homosexualitywithgod8473 Hi there,
      Thanks for sharing. Personally, I don't believe in "gay conversion therapy". The title in and of itself I find incredibly spurious and highly misleading. It means that there is on some level a "fault" that needs repairing. By that logic there should be a "judger conversion therapy", or "liar conversion therapy".
      I also ABHOR the term "same-sex attracted". I'm gay. Nothing more, nothing less - BUT, I do believe that for some, theirs is to experience this part of the human condition and then, through conviction, faith and belief, reconcile with God by marrying someone of the opposite sex and living in the fullness of that life.
      For me though, mine is the path of celibacy and I'm learning every day how it is actually, a beautiful, wonderful thing - HARD AS ALL HECK, DON'T GET ME WRONG! :-)
      And I will never mean to tell another gay person what their path is meant to be - that's something we all have to arrive with "with fear and trembling", and for all the sins in the world - there is grace enough.

    • @homosexualitywithgod8473
      @homosexualitywithgod8473 3 роки тому

      @@PeterJohnJnb Hey... We all got our paths in life. God wants you to be happy, joyous, and free. Before they were pushing conversion, and now they are pushing celibacy until God presents to you the right person. If that's your path, then follow it. God will reward you for your decision either way.

    • @homosexualitywithgod8473
      @homosexualitywithgod8473 3 роки тому

      Whatever you do... God will always have you covered!

  • @marcusstephenomara884
    @marcusstephenomara884 3 роки тому +47

    Hello from England here. Some people can struggle with their sexuality very much I've had a very negative experience of this. I was raised as a Catholic and still carry this faith in my heart. I've always wanted to be a parent and settle with someone. I've gone from one relationship to another with men and nothing positive to look back on, I've turned 40 and still struggling. I was outed to my family in a very cruel way and it's never been the same since. All I've ever wanted was an ordinary happy life but it's proving to be an impossible task. I've pulled myself away from LGBT the scene doesn't help only makes you feel worse as it's all revolved around alcohol. Most people I feel in this country are happy to go round in circles in their life only to realise later nothing has been achieved. My family have never really accepted me being gay and when I compare myself to other gay people there are big differences. I do feel I would prefer to have a woman in my life but it's probably too late and I don't think I would have much to offer so feel like my destiny is to continue with my life the way it is. Most people in England have a positive journey and feel proud being gay with me it's the opposite even though I know this is who I am and don't have much say or choice on the matter it causes me undesired pain. This is something the church couldn't support me with because being gay or bi isn't recognised as a Catholic but I won't just throw away my faith so where do I go from here. I feel my life is like a maze platform I'm never able to find a way out of. If anyone feels like this as well please comment. I must support the pastor also by saying there is no hate on his part some people are simply misinterpreting the message and reading it in their own way and that can cause friction during communication quite often when we aren't considerate towards the good nature of others

    • @adrianf.9957
      @adrianf.9957 3 роки тому +9

      We share the same struggle of same sex attraction and though ive not yet experienced discrimination in my Church, i feel the fear of being rejected within the members of the Church. All i can say is youre not alone in this journey, Though Jesus said that its takes the greatest cost to follow him, he didnt say we have to do it alone. I pray for you brother.

    • @isidroguevara4120
      @isidroguevara4120 3 роки тому +8

      I have homosexual inclinations as well and feel the same way. I may not be made straight in this system of things (ruled by Satan) but I await God's kingdom.

    • @wokery
      @wokery 3 роки тому +4

      i’m so sorry you haven’t felt accepted, you are so loved and valid no matter your identity.

    • @theaceofdaves4121
      @theaceofdaves4121 3 роки тому +1

      Oh man, you and me both Marcus. I may not be Catholic, or religious in any way. But I'm the last of my line, I must father a son, and these passions endanger that.
      You're not alone man. Sadly, your not alone.

    • @all_art9350
      @all_art9350 2 роки тому +7

      Marcus, I'm with you. Born and raised in a Christian home, gave my life to Christ at 14. I'm 49 now and single, have struggled with same sex attraction since maybe 10 or 11 years old. It's there, it's me, and I want so desperately to be with someone and feel intimacy, yet I believe that path is wrong. It's extremely painful. I appreciate this ministry as they point out sin, yet point out God's grace and mercy. I will pray for you, Marcus, and appreciate all prayers as well. God is faithful. I KNOW there's a reason for this pain. God bless you.

  • @mym8330
    @mym8330 2 роки тому +12

    You don't have to struggle all your life on earth, God delivers.

  • @Frostbunny13
    @Frostbunny13 Рік тому +34

    Thank you for this message.
    As of late the devil has really been attacking me with thoughts of homosexuality. Not sexual feelings but emotional ones.
    I feel so much pain in my heart because I've never had a friend like her. I know it's wrong that I have feeling of romantic love for her. The world isn't helping either. Friends and coworkers try to push us together. I know she has feelings for me. I vented to mutual friend about my struggle. They are a Christan and they suggested going for it which was not what I was looking for.
    I'm terrified she will act on her feelings. We work together, we have the same friends, and see each almost everyday. I will deny they connection if she confess and it will break her heart but I just can't.
    I just can't. I'm crying and struggling so much over this.
    I feel like I can't tell my parents, church members, or pastor because I'm scared they will look at me differently.
    I've done this to myself. I made friends and socialized with people I shouldn't have. I've keep quiet when I shouldn't have. I accepted all my students when they identified as a part of the LGBTQ. I made people believe that I was okay with it and didn't care instead of witnessing to them.
    I deserve the suffering but I can't handle it. I just want God to make it all go away.
    It apart of God's plan.
    I never thought I would struggle with homosexuality growing up. It was an unbelievable and ridiculous idea in my mind. But know I'm 25 and struggling with a sin that I never concerned myself with worrying about.

    • @maricathrynblakeslee8656
      @maricathrynblakeslee8656 Рік тому +3

      Hello. I’ve never struggled with your specific situation but I have struggled with sins I’ve committed in my life which have caused me to feel the same emotions- alone, despair, fear, etc. I know exactly how you feel and am moved in empathy towards you.
      I have overcome these emotions. It took me 2 years but I’ve mastered the ability to focus on the goodness and love of Christ. When you pursue him completely (which is far easier than we make it out to be) these inadequate feelings will drop and you will find yourself fulfilled. Just persevere. You’re gonna make it ❤️

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +3

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @CyborgNinja7
      @CyborgNinja7 Рік тому +2

      @@maricathrynblakeslee8656 This is a wonderful reply. I hope Mad Max is doing better.

    • @maricathrynblakeslee8656
      @maricathrynblakeslee8656 Рік тому

      @@CyborgNinja7 I hope he is doing well too, and you too hopefully ❤️

    • @tchikuya
      @tchikuya Рік тому +5

      It sounds like you're really in love with her. You shouldn't bottle up these feelings just because it's against something you grew up with. There's always this huge dilemma about "following your heart", but I do believe you should.
      What you are experiencing is different from other "sins". It's not something you can just "get over" by. It is who you are, it's not a struggle, or a hurdle.
      Don't ever blame yourself for being gay or regret accepting your students. There is nothing wrong with that. Learn to accept yourself, love yourself, be okay with yourself. You guys sound cute together, and I'm sure you will be happy with your choice. Don't lose the love of your life. God loves you!

  • @gifttshabalala4346
    @gifttshabalala4346 2 роки тому +73

    To my fellow brothers and sisters in christ...i personally know how hard it is to battle with same sex attractions, its a constant war between body and spirit it might take years to win but you will get through this...just try not to focus too much on the matter coz you might lose yourself or even worse hate yourself...jesus has your back put your faith in him...pray,pray and pray always

    • @asanteroyal1431
      @asanteroyal1431 2 роки тому +6

      wow, thank you so much i’m glad to know i’m not the only one struggling and other people understand. i’m praying and turning my life around slowly but surely🙏🏾

    • @gifttshabalala4346
      @gifttshabalala4346 2 роки тому +2

      @@asanteroyal1431 i wish you all the best 🙏.

    • @smikkles3651
      @smikkles3651 2 роки тому +2

      What about your fellow non-binary people in Christ?

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +2

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @tiddlywinks15
      @tiddlywinks15 Рік тому

      Amen🙏

  • @davidjones8330
    @davidjones8330 2 роки тому +28

    I separated myself from organized religion. So, I pretty much struggled on my own. Never did I come to a position, though, where I believed homosexuality wasn't a sin. (God preserved me). And God still made changes....slowly....patiently.....as I was ready to receive them. Took decades, but I think more and more like a heterosexual man. Somebody shout.."Amen!"

    • @mattmarchese5141
      @mattmarchese5141 2 роки тому +3

      You don’t have to hate yourself because of who you are, love who you love, you are human, and you are trying to accomplish the inevitable. I know it’s difficult, but the only way to make it stop and finally be happy is to accept yourself.

    • @jesusiscoming4180
      @jesusiscoming4180 2 роки тому +7

      @@mattmarchese5141 And Live in Guilt all his life? In Depression? Look how happy this guy sounds. No he wont. He has escapes his guilt, depression, and eternal sadness. God is merciful.

    • @rupertholmes5828
      @rupertholmes5828 2 роки тому +1

      Amen!

    • @willwowxdrice642
      @willwowxdrice642 Рік тому +3

      @@jesusiscoming4180 y’all are really brain washed 😢

    • @DaemionThade
      @DaemionThade Рік тому

      Amen!

  • @inquestorraven7288
    @inquestorraven7288 3 роки тому +59

    Its more a struggle to pretend to be straight

    • @black_onyx._6816
      @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому +3

      YES

    • @loganmcdonald7422
      @loganmcdonald7422 3 роки тому +13

      It's absolutely soul crushing to see so many people gleefully taking on this burden. "I'm weak for giving to homosexual feelings," no, bestie, you're just normal. What isn't normal is trying to go against it. They're probably gonna call me Satan for saying that 😩

    • @wokery
      @wokery 3 роки тому +2

      true!!

    • @loganmcdonald7422
      @loganmcdonald7422 2 роки тому +3

      @Victor Bonnah seeing people hurt themselves, especially when you've done it before too, is not something a person should allow to happen. Basic human empathy and decency is why.

    • @lionofjudahlambofgod9132
      @lionofjudahlambofgod9132 2 роки тому

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  • @joshuakampamba9061
    @joshuakampamba9061 10 місяців тому +8

    Poor souls didn't ever ask to feel that way😭😭😭 it breaks my heart

  • @pregamilitisto288
    @pregamilitisto288 3 роки тому +65

    For all people who struggle with homosexuality, I pray for you for more strength. Amen | Preğa Militisto

    • @katedwyer6077
      @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому +2

      It’s not a struggle though!!

    • @jpl4136
      @jpl4136 2 роки тому +1

      I appreciate your prayers!

    • @baileygregory9192
      @baileygregory9192 2 роки тому +2

      I'm agnostic and can't get my sf to believe in God, but I still struggle with unwanted feelings, and am eternally thankful for your prayers

    • @jpl4136
      @jpl4136 2 роки тому +1

      @@baileygregory9192 you and I are in this together!

    • @baileygregory9192
      @baileygregory9192 2 роки тому

      @@jpl4136 thanks. I hope you succeed too.

  • @shanilamulungi2829
    @shanilamulungi2829 3 роки тому +32

    I have been struggling for 7 yrs and i gave up... But today i have learnt dat i shud not give up.. Thanks so much i have jst found this channel its mekng meaning to me

    • @nathanpenick959
      @nathanpenick959 3 роки тому +1

      @@pastorbri You're relentless to find these random videos about gay people aren't you

    • @nathanpenick959
      @nathanpenick959 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@pastorbrithe bible does imply homosexual acts are not something that is fruitful or good, if you have a problem with it then I would reject the bible if i were you.

    • @gracebyrne8785
      @gracebyrne8785 3 роки тому +3

      Jesus deeply feels the pain you feel in your temptations. His love for you is so huge, and even if you still struggle your whole life, as long as you hold on to him, you will win. God knows you heart. You are his beloved child, who he gave everything up for. He sees your every moment and thought. Even though you may sometimes feel overwhelmed with romantic and sexual desire and emotion for those of your same sex, there is hope. As long as you seek God, one day you will stand before him face to face, and all you will see in his eyes will be love for you. No anger. This is how he always looks at his children.

    • @fatherramen475
      @fatherramen475 3 роки тому +8

      Dude there’s nothing with being gay. You always will be gay. Instead of suppressing it be yoursel.

    • @archieryan9015
      @archieryan9015 3 роки тому +4

      Stop fighting it man just be yourself and embrace it. You can't change who you are, please just enjoy your life :)

  • @autenasamani9912
    @autenasamani9912 2 роки тому +10

    Bring Gay is NOT a sin. Period. The God I serve doesn't care if you're tall or short. Or if you were born black, or Asian, or gay. How can some people be so ignorant.

    • @jenifferrodriguez3048
      @jenifferrodriguez3048 Рік тому +5

      Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men.
      1 Corinthians 6:9
      Idk what God you follow or what bible you read but the Word of God clearly states homosexuality is NOT okay.

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому

      @@jenifferrodriguez3048 The wrongdoer is you here.
      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому

      I hope you find soon a loving same-sex partner, marry and raise kids, as many gays do nowadays.
      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.

    • @user-jz4mo6kf8h
      @user-jz4mo6kf8h 7 днів тому

      ​@@jenifferrodriguez3048 Cool we don't inherit the Kingdom not like we really give a shit... And he may say being gay is wrong in the wise words of Nick Fury: "I understand that the council has made a decision. But as it's a stupid decision I've elected to ignore it!" So he can say it's wrong all he wants won't change how we live!

  • @ernestlam5632
    @ernestlam5632 2 роки тому +7

    Amen I I agree 100% with what you say about someone struggling and having hope. When dealing with people with mental illnesses which truly are more spiritual illnesses I consider depression more of a spiritual illness because it's a lack of Hope. And no amount of medication or therapy will ever fix the problem if you never get hope again

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      Perhaps in some cases but much of the time depression is lethargy and lack of emotional response despite hope.

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому

      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.
      I hope you find soon a loving same-sex partner, marry and raise kids, as many gays do nowadays.

  • @MalibuKen
    @MalibuKen 8 місяців тому +12

    Thank you for your message. I've always questioned Gods will because he decided to put my G-Spot in my ass, and wondered why he was tormenting me with thoughts of shirtless men. Now I know its because he wants me to struggle and overcome my sin-ladled urges to be a better Christian. Bless this man and everyone else struggling to face Gods light with a pure heart.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      Love is not a sin.
      Sex however.. is also not a sin.

    • @GiggityCrabbityGiggity
      @GiggityCrabbityGiggity 6 місяців тому

      Adultery,
      Romans 1:20-24@@Grokford

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 6 місяців тому

      @@GiggityCrabbityGiggity
      Adultery is not Love, it is in fact immoral because it is a violation of Love, that being the violation of a commitment to a partner.

    • @GiggityCrabbityGiggity
      @GiggityCrabbityGiggity 6 місяців тому

      You said sex in general wasn't a sin, but sex outside of marriage is a sin.@@Grokford

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 6 місяців тому +1

      @@GiggityCrabbityGiggity
      Sex in general isn't a sin.
      Sex involved in adultery is, but that's not because of the sex, it's because of the adultery.
      Though I will also point out that the Bible never prohibits pre-marital sex; despite popular conception.

  • @reykokenosha8690
    @reykokenosha8690 2 роки тому +12

    I am 20 years old 4 years ago I understood that gay and Christianity don't mix the first thing that came to my mind was what's the cure..I read endless bible passages and scriptures and it all pointed to just don't be gay I am not struggling with homosexual acts but homosexual thoughts I don't want to see a guy the same way I am supposed to see girls but it's a struggle my heart stopped when you said some people might leave with this there entire life because it sucks 😞 and to know that I will keep struggling also sucks but I love Jesus more than anything in the world because I have faith and I trust him I just pray I never give in to my homosexual thoughts

    • @dorisuhlman6358
      @dorisuhlman6358 2 роки тому +1

      Hey Jesus loves you if you act on it or not. He's got your back. If you need to talk I'm a young Christian who isn't straight as well. I know how you feel.

    • @themadisonjt9108
      @themadisonjt9108 Рік тому

      how are you doing?

    • @reykokenosha8690
      @reykokenosha8690 Рік тому

      @@themadisonjt9108 not good

    • @themadisonjt9108
      @themadisonjt9108 Рік тому +1

      @@reykokenosha8690 i’m sorry to hear that. do you need to talk? and have you heard of living hope ministries? they cater to people that struggle with sexual identity issues and same sex attraction. they have an online forum that has been a big help to me.

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

  • @thechristianpt
    @thechristianpt 2 роки тому +18

    I'm in tears, The Lord spoke through you. Thank you so much.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +3

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @flatouttruthpodcast
      @flatouttruthpodcast 10 місяців тому

      @@Grokford Both your Galatians argument are incorrect. The first one was saying that we are all one under god, we are all children of god no matter what race or gender. The third one was saying the fruits of the spirit-which has nothing to do with gender. Your john argument is bad too. The verse says nothing about gender. Don’t be a fool, child. Did you even read the Bible? Lol 😂

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 10 місяців тому +1

      @@flatouttruthpodcast
      "The first one was saying that we are all one under god, we are all children of god no matter what race or gender."
      And this we are morally equal, which was my point.
      "The third one was saying the fruits of the spirit-which has nothing to do with gender."
      This was a part of my point, morality is not gendered.
      "Your john argument is bad too. The verse says nothing about gender."
      Correct, it's almost as if I've been explicitly arguing that Love is a genderless moral good.
      "Don’t be a fool, child. Did you even read the Bible? Lol 😂"
      I have a degree in biblical studies.
      You seem to be struggling to interpret the explicit messages of my comment.

    • @flatouttruthpodcast
      @flatouttruthpodcast 10 місяців тому

      @@Grokford just because love is genderless doesn’t mean the there is no separation of gender. I still don’t understand your point.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 10 місяців тому +1

      @@flatouttruthpodcast
      I was never suggesting that gender doesn’t exist, I was only saying that it was morally irrelevant, just like race, just like social status.

  • @stephenyoung8603
    @stephenyoung8603 3 роки тому +12

    Great word Pastor Jeremy, Needed to hear that. God bless you.

  • @HannesA-my3xp
    @HannesA-my3xp 8 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for your message. I'm now at this point in my life where im asking God to take this away from me. im lonely and dont want to be alone any longer but i still feel no attraction to women. Why doesnt God change this? I don't want to disappoint God. You've given me some hope, i can go on

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      You should not let religion ruin your life. There's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality and having gay sex.

    • @HannesA-my3xp
      @HannesA-my3xp 8 місяців тому +4

      @@bobby1970 Both religion and homosexuality destroyed my life. I was born and raised as one of Jehovah's witnesses. After I came out as gay most of my family disowned me. I was kicked out of the kingdom hall and labelled as an apostate. Before I came out I was clinically depressed. after I came out even more. I met Jesus and decided to follow Jesus and I found that true Christianity isn't a religion, it's relationship with God. I threw of all the labels that held me back. My identity isn't in my sexuality or anything that I do. I'm not a human doing. I'm a human being and I'm a child of God. My identity is in Christ. I also get lonely sometimes and feel down sometimes but I always go to Jesus to find my identity. I don't identify as gay or straight or anything else. I identify as a child of God. This is my choice that I made and I respect your choices you make for yourself. I hope the best for you.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 8 місяців тому +3

      Who knows... It is a long way, and a hard one, but all we can do is to get up again and again. At least as long as we can. And never get delusional. Even if you stumble, fall, backslide or anything, stay convinced that this is the right way and keep the goal in your eyes.

    • @HannesA-my3xp
      @HannesA-my3xp 8 місяців тому +1

      @@m.f.5739 I'm filled with new hope. When we fall and call out to God He always picks us up and restores us.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому +1

      Love is not a sin, and these gendered prejudices are human creations.
      Love is the very nature of God, it can not be evil.

  • @deanphillips6239
    @deanphillips6239 2 роки тому +33

    35 years ive lived with the Lie..."Im Gay" I allowed myself through temptation, lack of faith, lack of asking Jesus for help. Im 2 years into my struggle. And I struggle!! I dont always win..but I always continue the battle. When Satan keeps reminding you of your past...remind him of his future. I know the Lord is with me. He purchased my sins. I chose a life of homosexuality..not "Born" into it. until God revealed I just had to be born again.😊🙏

    • @timeofgrace
      @timeofgrace  2 роки тому +6

      Thank you for sharing your story with us, Dean. We appreciate your openness and honesty. God bless you in your journey!

    • @christopherscheiber1439
      @christopherscheiber1439 2 роки тому +1

      One may indeed choose their behavior, but the inward desire, or fundamental orientation itsself is not chosen. It is important for people to believe that homosexuality is chosen because, before something can be seen as being wrong it first must be seen as being chosen and therefore worthy of contempt and hatred through the stone of subjective comparison. I have known gay men with families who could only function sexually with their wives by thinking of the male anatomy. They are still gay. And did the serial killers with families miss the memo that their heterosexuality automatically conferred morality?

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @haintedhouse2990
      @haintedhouse2990 Рік тому

      i did NOT choose a life of homosexuality. after years of lying to everyone and failing repeatedly at being the "straight dude" i finally owned up to avoid ending up in a padded cell.
      it's called survival.

  • @COVIDpanic
    @COVIDpanic 4 роки тому +5

    thanks. note: Islam [aslama] means 'submit' (to God), whereas Israel means 'to struggle with God'.

    • @joshuastevens232
      @joshuastevens232 3 роки тому +9

      Islam was almost made 600 years after Jesus walked this earth and does not match with the Torah or the Bible. Israel was the name God gave Jacob after he wrestled with Him, so the meaning of the name makes sense. Islam meaning “submission to God” means nothing when the entire Islam faith is founded on a twisted version of the gospel. For a religion that is submitting to God I don’t understand why it distorts Christ

    • @americancommunist7633
      @americancommunist7633 2 роки тому

      @@joshuastevens232 islam is like the Bible and Torah, but based and true🙏🏾💪🏾

  • @breadtv6044
    @breadtv6044 Рік тому +3

    Thank you and the lord. This is pushing me to keep struggling 👍

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @flatouttruthpodcast
      @flatouttruthpodcast 10 місяців тому

      @@Grokford false preaching. Shut the hell up

    • @kill3rclown690
      @kill3rclown690 Місяць тому

      Struggling for no reason

  • @BigMythicLizard
    @BigMythicLizard 2 роки тому +7

    I feel so bad for the people in these comments :( Being gay is not a sin, I can try and find this really good article I read about it if you want. It doesn't talk about the fact that the word homosexuality or anything mentioning such was in the bible until 1946. Not to mention that the Bible says nothing about Lesbians. I just want you all to know as a Panromantic asexual Christian, from the bottom of my heart, love who you want, no one can tell you love is wrong, because it is what God wants us to do.
    Edit: inaccurate now, still struggling with labels. Now Identify as bisexual, maybe lesbian

    • @TenNineD
      @TenNineD 2 роки тому

      I’m looking for answers discovered this video my faith is a whole another thing I come very confused in anyway I’m by definition “bi” but I want to be normal is really good?

    • @BigMythicLizard
      @BigMythicLizard 2 роки тому +1

      @TenNine D I’m bi too (possibly lesbian, I haven’t liked a man in ages and feel like I’m just in denial), and I’ve tried really hard to be “normal”. No matter what I do, I can’t change it. There have been many nights where I’ve cried over not being straight. If you want to try, go ahead, but it’s best to love and accept yourself no matter who you love, and not to go try “fixing” yourself! Trying to change who you are never ends up good. Hope this helped!

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

    • @ForWhomTheBellTolls16
      @ForWhomTheBellTolls16 Рік тому

      I’m interested in the article you mentioned

  • @jamie123b
    @jamie123b 4 роки тому +31

    Why should they struggle their entire lives? Why can’t they be happy with who they are, but still live in accordance with the bible?

    • @terethusak
      @terethusak 4 роки тому +29

      God has no intention of us struggling for our entire lives, but if we are struggling against homosexuality it means we dont want to be that way, when I was a teenager I was gay, had boyfriends, and planned my life in terms of having a partner and a good job, but I didnt want to be that way, not because of homophobia, or because people my reject me, I just didnt want to be that way. so why shouldnt people hold out hope for me, why should I be told to be happy with something I dont want to be. years forward I met Christ and He restored me according to his blueprint. It is for freedom that Christ has set us free therefore be not entangled again. and if the son sets us free we shall be truly free, free indeed. so as believers we dont mistreat or discriminate again lgbtq people but we offer out hope for those who are desperate to be free. thankfully a brave pastor held out hope for me.

    • @jamie123b
      @jamie123b 4 роки тому +3

      Impact you changed from gay to straight?

    • @terethusak
      @terethusak 4 роки тому +3

      @@jamie123b yes,

    • @terethusak
      @terethusak 4 роки тому +26

      now the problem is if a formerly gay man dares to say that they are no longer gay they get insulted by members of the lgbt community who say they are in denial or that they werent really gay. when I came out to my parents my mum told me if any of her sons were gay they would be burnt in hell and she would disown them, that night at twelve years old with tear in my eyes I took a huge overdose of a drug called propanolol, then I went to sleep, I woke up in the morning with a headache. several years later I met Jesus, His love is so great it shakes every chain loose. for me being attracted to guys, was my normal but also felt to me like chains, I wanted freedom and he gave it. one day I found myself falling in love with my best friend who was female, and yesterday we celebrated our 16th anniversary surrounded by our kids .

    • @jamie123b
      @jamie123b 4 роки тому +7

      Impact Wow your mum is disgusting how could she say that to her kid. Just because you managed to 'change' not all gay people can or will. And why should they? Bible says gay sex is wrong not being gay.

  • @Prolificidoc
    @Prolificidoc Рік тому +12

    I am in tears watching this video. I pray God helps me😭

    • @joseph880
      @joseph880 Рік тому +1

      Only Grace can Save,...re-train your brain toward the Opposite sex, get a harlot..., Whatever it takes , Victory in Jesus.Jesus Saves.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      I speak from experience when I say that God will wait for you, but his help probably won’t be what you want.
      Love is not something to be ashamed of.

  • @mr.masterbuilderofgreatnes5080
    @mr.masterbuilderofgreatnes5080 11 місяців тому +4

    If there is a church out there who deals with homosexuality. I m sick of being at churches where no one claims to struggle with these feelings or wants to be open about it

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 11 місяців тому

      Love is not a sin.
      But if you want to find out her Queer people in church you might have to look for Queer churches specifically or find a large international congregation.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 6 місяців тому

      I recommend you to check out the testimonies/channels of people like Becket Cook, Samuel Perez, Jim Domen or Jacky Hill Perry. They all had struggles with same sex attraction and also acted on them in the past, but managed to leave all of this behind. I'm sure you'll find recommendations for ministries and churches there.

    • @Faithtalk4bros
      @Faithtalk4bros 5 місяців тому

      I'll be covering these topics on Same Attraction and Homosexuality and how Christians live with them

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому

      I hope you find soon a loving same-sex partner, marry and raise kids, as many gays do nowadays.
      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.

  • @lalaishappyyy
    @lalaishappyyy Рік тому +7

    the struggle makes me feel so sad and hopeless sometimes :(

    • @YourMom-ug1ni
      @YourMom-ug1ni Рік тому +2

      Me to

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      Then stop, God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28) so why should you? Love is not a sin in fact it is a virtue(Galatians 5:22-23).
      We have limited energy in this world and I would hate to see you waste yours fighting the way that God made you to love.

    • @markwhite5926
      @markwhite5926 Рік тому +1

      @@Grokford wow, you definitely know how to twist Scripture! Agent of Satan

    • @nightshade1732
      @nightshade1732 Рік тому +6

      @@markwhite5926 I would love to believe them and live a homosexuality lifestyle as I please, but we don't get to do what we want, we do as our Lord commanded. May the Lord guide these people, that they may see the true interpretation and meaning of scripture and not twist it to their wants. Amen

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      @@nightshade1732
      Anyone trying to stop you from doing good is doing you no favors.

  • @youngandinchristwithtee3365
    @youngandinchristwithtee3365 3 роки тому +4

    wow... thank you for the word Pastor Jeremy.... I'm don't have this same struggle but i know the pain of the straggle...
    So thank you... may God use you to touch others as he used you to touch my life...

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому

      I hope you find soon a loving same-sex partner, marry and raise kids, as many gays do nowadays.
      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.

  • @andresgalindo7682
    @andresgalindo7682 4 місяці тому +2

    I´m not a Protestant i´m an Orthodox Christian and there are Orthodox Saints whom were Homosexual and we can learn a lot from them

  • @corymodzeleski8392
    @corymodzeleski8392 Рік тому +13

    I'm a former homosexual myself and I can tell you even though it's very difficult it is possible to overcome this through the power of the Lord.

    • @jefaljone
      @jefaljone Рік тому +2

      Are you heterosexual now? What is your secret to success?

    • @corymodzeleski8392
      @corymodzeleski8392 Рік тому +1

      @@jefaljone being right with the Lord!

    • @lolhighlights2628
      @lolhighlights2628 Рік тому +2

      Please can i somehow contact with you? I’m struggling really really hard . I’m crying right now while typing this comment

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      @@lolhighlights2628
      Darling, what’s worrying you?

  • @ja-ti2ub
    @ja-ti2ub 3 роки тому +7

    Hello - just a intersex/gay person popping in. I don't share your beliefs - but - I really do wish you the best. There is so much animosity between people who believe differently - and that makes me so sad.
    So thank you for all the many ways you make the world a better place. I really do mean that.

    • @georgie3528
      @georgie3528 3 роки тому +1

      ...me confused on why you have so many subscribers with no videos😅

    • @katedwyer6077
      @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому

      What he is saying are not beliefs. He is promoting conversation therapy, which is self harm, pseudoscience and can lead to suicide!!

  • @dumbthings7639
    @dumbthings7639 2 роки тому +7

    The fact that you are calling homosexuality a sin is very sad. People can’t choose who they have an attraction to. Think of it this way let’s say that the Bible sad that heterosexuality is a sin. How would you feel if you had to be gay because if you weren’t you could not get into heaven. The fact that I live in a world where people like you exist and that so many people agree with you makes me really sad. I don’t want to live. People are so hateful. You can’t control who you are attracted to. That’s what god does. I will pray for you and the people who agree with you.

  • @Dancersgelprint
    @Dancersgelprint 4 роки тому +10

    Thank you this really blessed me this morning!

  • @spencerhinds2803
    @spencerhinds2803 6 місяців тому +3

    To anybody watching this, i promise you the more you push down your feelings of homosexuality the more anguish you will feel. If there is an all seeing god, he would understand that homosexuality is not wrong and hurts nobody. The notion that it is a sin, is a misinterpretation of his word. Don’t believe me? Keep pushing them down and see what happens. You will come to learn that if you are gay? You were born that way for a reason. Be yourself people. Please.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 6 місяців тому

      This is a common statement I hear, but I think it's based on a misunderstanding. A person is more than his/her sexuality. In fact, this only makes a small part of a true identity. So "being yourself" doesn't necessarily mean giving in to ones attraction. It can also, or even moreso, mean staying true to ones values and conviction and therefore resist these urges. I couldn't imagine a thing that's less "myself" than giving in to same sex attraction. This would mean rejecting almost everything I stand for and want to achieve in my life. And all of that for only a small part of my being. Does this really sound like being yourself?

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 6 місяців тому

      @@m.f.5739
      "This is a common statement I hear, but I think it's based on a misunderstanding."
      I get the impression that your understanding of Queerness is limited.
      "A person is more than his/her sexuality."
      Indeed, so why then should it be so dominant in moral conversation?
      It is not Queer people who reduce themselves to their sexuality, that is done to them by prejudiced outsiders.
      "So "being yourself" doesn't necessarily mean giving in to ones attraction."
      Being an American is a small part of my identity, but that doesn't change the fact that no matter how small it is I'd still be lying if I pretended that it wasn't a part of me.
      "It can also, or even moreso, mean staying true to ones values and conviction and therefore resist these urges."
      I feel no conviction or impetus to do such a thing.
      In what way is Love(the cornerstone of all Christian morality) something that I should resist?
      "I couldn't imagine a thing that's less "myself" than giving in to same sex attraction."
      Well if you're heterosexual that would make sense.
      "This would mean rejecting almost everything I stand for and want to achieve in my life."
      That's your business.
      "And all of that for only a small part of my being."
      No. Not all that for a small part of you; more of an equal tradeoff.
      If all your life plans are dependent on you being heterosexual.. then you are the one who has overemphasized your sexuality; and to an extreme degree no less.
      "Does this really sound like being yourself?"
      You're the one who has tied "almost everything I stand for and want to achieve in my life."" to being heterosexual.
      So you tell me.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 6 місяців тому

      @@Grokford I get the impression that my original comment probably was unclear, because I didn't meant many things the way you understood them.
      First, I never intended to lie about my same sex attraction. I know that this is a part of me, it probably will always stay that way, even though I would like it to be differently. It's nothing I deny. But having these thoughts and knowing it still doesn't mean you have to give in to them. That's where I see myself right now.
      Then, your understanding of morality is strange for me. So, as long as something is just a small part of you, it can't be that wrong. So a bit of lying is ok? Or a bit of stealing? Or a bit of cheating? Just as long as these are not the main focus of the person doing them?
      The most important misunderstanding in my opinion: Where did I say anything about heterosexuality? I don't require heterosexuality. I just said I don't want to give in to my same sex attraction. I might probably take this to my grave, it might never go away, but this doesn't mean I have to give it any power over my life and my decisions. This is what I strive for, a different thing than just being heterosexual.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 6 місяців тому

      @@m.f.5739
      "First, I never intended to lie about my same sex attraction."
      So you would rather suppress it.
      " It's nothing I deny. But having these thoughts and knowing it still doesn't mean you have to give in to them."
      So you want to ignore it?
      Listen, you can set whatever arbitrary rules that you want for yourself, but it sounds to me like you're trying to force yourself into a mold that doesn't fit you.
      "Then, your understanding of morality is strange for me. So, as long as something is just a small part of you, it can't be that wrong."
      It's probably strange because you've misunderstood me.
      The smallness of homosexuality is not the relevant factor here.
      It's the unobjectionability of sexuality that matters here.
      "The most important misunderstanding in my opinion: Where did I say anything about heterosexuality? I don't require heterosexuality."
      True you didn't say heterosexuality but you did say this:
      "I couldn't imagine a thing that's less "myself" than giving in to same sex attraction. This would mean rejecting almost everything I stand for and want to achieve in my life."
      Which means that a large part of your life is dependent on your sexuality, and in this case it is dependent on being in like with the orthodoxy of compulsive heterosexuality.
      I can't think of any other reason why homosexual sexuality would be the only objectionable one.
      "I just said I don't want to give in to my same sex attraction."
      "Give in"?
      I don't care for that phrasing.
      We all have feelings and desires, it's not "giving in" to want something and then pursue it.
      The only reason that this would be a problem is if you already had some assumption that being attracted to the same sex is some sort of temptation.
      It's not, it's just an attraction, it's not some trick to weaken you.
      "it might never go away, but this doesn't mean I have to give it any power over my life and my decisions."
      It does not and can not have power over your decisions, *you're* the one making the decisions. If anything your compulsive need to avoid it is affecting you far more than anything else.
      You're acting as if wanting something is some rude request on your attention.
      When in reality you are the one who wants it; sure there are things we can't have but you're acting like what you want is getting in the way of what you want.
      It doesn't make sense.
      You are the one making the conscious decision to prioritize some other goal over this.
      And frankly, if you current aim involves you living in secrecy or permanent suppression.. then you might need to think about why you want that so much.
      Most people don't benefit from living under conditional support.
      Anyone who tells you that they'll protect you or that you're worth something so long as you follow their arbitrary rules is hurting you already.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 6 місяців тому

      @@Grokford This seems a lot more clear now. But I still have to disagree with some points. Your arguments make sense, if you either reagard the issue free from any moral scale, or your morality is in line with your same sex attraction. Neither is the case for me, so most of it falls flat. I mean, I could right now start pursuing this, and it might even give me instant gratification. But this is not what I think is right for myself.
      You came pretty close to the truth by stating that "what I "want" is in the way of what I want". The quotation marks for the want are intentional because it's a different wanting. I don't consciously want to give in to my SSA. But I still have the urge to do it sometimes. But you have to see it rather as the kind of wanting an alcoholic experiences while drinking, not for example the kind of wanting one has for a nice house or a good job. In contrast, there's the life I really, consciously want. Alongside many other things (career, living situation, friendships etc), not acting on my same sex attraction is a part of this. Now, the decision itself, either choosing what I want or what I "want", is very easy and makes perfect sense. The only problem is sometimes the "wanting" gets quite strong, but I think as time comes I will be able to handle it better. My hope is that some years in the future, I will have enough experience, discipline and mental calmness that this doesn't bother me anymore. While giving in seems easier in the short term and gives me instant gratification, I imagine it is nothing against the peace and joy I will have when I know that I'm in complete control and this issue won't cause me any pain or lead me to stumble again. Like with the "wanting" - wanting comparison: In the short term, what gives an alcoholic the most pleasure is a bottle of booze. But in the long term it's not drinking anymore. So who do I want to be? A puppet to my desires and lusts, searching for instant gratification? Or a free and pure man with a strong will and a clean conscience?
      PS: You implied that I just do this to please somebody else. I don't. The only person I do this for is myself. Nobody even knows about what I'm going through. So how could they push me to go a certain way? It was and still is my own free choice.

  • @091860able
    @091860able 2 роки тому +9

    What a great sermon; i really needed it. Thanks so much.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

  • @Alex-ye7mm
    @Alex-ye7mm 2 роки тому +13

    For you people questioning your sexuality, if you see this comment, know that you are valid and you are you and you CANT CHANGE THAT. Please do not consider trying to be who you arent.

    • @endofaneraoutnow3473
      @endofaneraoutnow3473 2 роки тому +1

      Period

    • @turangaleela1982
      @turangaleela1982 2 роки тому +1

      Let’s gooooo

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      Exactly, I agree with you 100%. Even if I could change my homosexuality, I wouldn't want to. I enjoy having gay sex so much. I love it.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 5 місяців тому

      "Oh you're an alcoholic and you can't change that because self control doesn't exist, so stop trying to be someone you aren't and continue drinking".
      Would anyone ever say that? No, of course not. So why spread this lie on homosexuality? From someone struggling with this: There IS hope if you want it to be there, and as long as there is hope you haven't lost the battle. You might not be miraculously freed from your desires and temptations. But you can learn to control them, and they will get weaker and easier to control with time.

  • @idkstudios3768
    @idkstudios3768 11 місяців тому +2

    have you ever heard the saying live on my feet rather then die on my knees. I've finally decided who I am and I can't allow anyone to control it any longer. I may not be the perfect believer and I would still like to keep some level of faith. I'm going to keep struggling, every day, not from insecurity and worry for my "sin" but from those who shout scripture and act as if I'm lower. With any amount of luck they will be forgiven for there own sins. But as for me I will struggle and struggle to make people understand me and millions of others that simply want to live.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 11 місяців тому

      Love is not a sin.
      Calling out sanctimonious hypocrisy on the other hand is practically a moral obligation.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      Run away from religion as fast as you possibly can. Don't let it ruin and destroy your life. Religion is a dangerous cult. There's nothing wrong with homosexuality and having gay sex.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 7 місяців тому

      How can you say you're living on your feet while your lifestyle is defined by giving in to your urges? Not meant disrespecting in any way, but a genuine question. Wouldn't it be living on your feet if you decide to resist and let values and morals decide over your actions instead of temptations and desires?

    • @idkstudios3768
      @idkstudios3768 7 місяців тому

      @m.f.5739 not really urges. You could call it that it you want. But it's effectively the same as any "straight urges." Also, I'm going to he'll already, so throw me with the king of pride bb 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈!!!

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 7 місяців тому

      @@idkstudios3768 There probably would have been a more fitting word than 'urges', but since English isn't my first language I just chose the closest description I knew.
      Anyway, I actually don't think you're going to hell. I don't think anybody will go there, I don't believe hell exists. But if you want to live in freedom on this world, I doubt that this is the right way. Freedom means being in control over what you do, not letting something else guide your thoughts and action. You didn't get up from your knees, you only changed the idol you worship.

  • @samfoster4898
    @samfoster4898 2 роки тому +1

    does anyone know where i can access online bible-focused support for these kinds of feelings? i dont want to bring shame on my family

    • @katedwyer6077
      @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому

      *your,love,is

    • @katedwyer6077
      @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому

      Your*

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 3 місяці тому

      I'm searching for this, too. If you've found out yet, please share it.

  • @toocoolgames5700
    @toocoolgames5700 Рік тому +3

    I can’t deal with this. I’d rather die then to continue life like this

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      Love is difficult, it is hard it is incomprehensible.
      But most people say that it’s worth it.

    • @Lurotimi
      @Lurotimi Рік тому +1

      Exactly how I feel right now😭

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      @@Lurotimi
      I’m sorry love,
      Things probably won’t make perfect sense but they’ll make enough sense.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      That's why you must free yourself and break away from religion. There's nothing wrong with homosexuality and having gay sex. You're missing out on life because of religion..

    • @toocoolgames5700
      @toocoolgames5700 8 місяців тому +3

      @@bobby1970 nah bruh, you do you on that. But I’m not gonna act like God don’t exist to pleasure myself for a short time.

  • @bearfeet57spirit45
    @bearfeet57spirit45 9 місяців тому +4

    This was posted 3 years ago, so don't know if you still read comments, but this message is just as important and relevant today than ever. Thank you for your reassurance and support in our struggles while we walk (stumble?) in our faith. Shalom.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      This message is a desperate plead for validation of bigotry.

  • @MrSteniorod
    @MrSteniorod 2 роки тому +7

    It is beautiful hearing Pastor Jeremy`s Testemony. It is very encouraging to see that even feminine men can find the grace of Jesus, start families and procreate.

  • @ah4760
    @ah4760 4 роки тому +10

    Needed to hear this more than ever this week. Thank you. I was sitting on the proverbial fence - no longer. I embrace the struggle and forsake the practice. Can't thank you enough Pastor Jeremy.

    • @ProtoGlenn
      @ProtoGlenn 4 роки тому

      Why call it a struggle? Are you implying it is a “sin”?

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому

      @@ProtoGlenn yes

    • @ProtoGlenn
      @ProtoGlenn 2 роки тому

      @@justuravergekpopluvinfeminist Where is the God given law that deems it a sin?

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому

      @@ProtoGlenn Leviticus 18:22. Go read it

    • @ProtoGlenn
      @ProtoGlenn 2 роки тому

      @@justuravergekpopluvinfeminist I said God given law, meaning God made it. Those aren't even His laws, read the chapter.

  • @mattmarchese5141
    @mattmarchese5141 2 роки тому +10

    For the people that seek to change themselves because their religion or family etc, please stop, you are fighting the inevitable, accept yourself for who you are that’s the only way the self hatred and mental torture will ever end. You are loved.

    • @TenNineD
      @TenNineD 2 роки тому +2

      Why…

    • @kentclark9616
      @kentclark9616 Рік тому +1

      Why not allow them to accept that they don’t want to accept it? If you all for acceptance why you pushing your agenda?

    • @frichickenishabrown6344
      @frichickenishabrown6344 10 місяців тому

      That’s exactly what Satan wants 🥱

    • @HannahsCats-zp6rb
      @HannahsCats-zp6rb 10 місяців тому +1

      Well said. You can't "overcome" homosexuality, just you can't overcome heterosexuality. Don't ever let anyone tell you that your sex is wrong. You are who you are. Just accept it and live your best life!

    • @frichickenishabrown6344
      @frichickenishabrown6344 10 місяців тому

      @@HannahsCats-zp6rb maybe you can’t fully „overcome“‘ it but you shouldn’t act upon your desires when you feel it’s wrong af. That just makes you weak.

  • @Grokford
    @Grokford 11 місяців тому +3

    You’re making things up,
    Love is not a sin.

    • @tord3871
      @tord3871 9 місяців тому

      It's in the bible

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 9 місяців тому

      @@tord3871
      Actually the Bible explicitly calls Love a virtue.

    • @Well.idc.anymore
      @Well.idc.anymore 3 місяці тому

      Yes love is not a sin but it is in bible that a man and man can’t do lustful things, that’s written as something shameful. And when I say this, I doubt why it’s a sin for loving a person as a human but then I still believe it’s sin to have a sexual relation with them.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 3 місяці тому

      @@Well.idc.anymore
      "but it is in bible that a man and man can’t do lustful things, that’s written as something shameful."
      Doesn't the Bible says the same thing about having your period, or cutting your hair?
      Christians regularly ignore the old Hebrew law, Paul even said that we should.
      Galatians says that male or female we are all one in Christ, if God treats all the same regardless of gender, why should we treat people based on gender?

    • @Well.idc.anymore
      @Well.idc.anymore 3 місяці тому

      @@Grokford yes, it does talk about cutting hair, im not sure about periods. But when Jesus said everyone’s equal in front of him, I don’t think that was also referring to this. I believe that was about salvation and their path towards him. If he never wanted two different genders why even he created us like that?
      Old Hebrew law, there’s a lot laws that written in New Testament that also hinted towards it, I believe.
      When we want something, we’ll clearly read scriptures in that sense. That’s what I think. But if bible says one thing I mostly thinks that’s the literal thing he wants to say, otherwise he wouldn’t write it like that. Sorry if I’m saying something illogical, I’m kinda struggling to find proper English words.

  • @AcTheMace
    @AcTheMace 2 роки тому +5

    sometimes I feel like I should not struggle with this. it has been a mindset that has dragged me down into self-hate, and suicidal ideation.
    but if i believe in a traditional sexual ethic, what place is there left for me?
    the church often seems like it just wants me to keep going to conversation therapy even if no "progress" is being made.
    the queer community at least accepts me even if my theology doesn't line up with the majority in our community.

    • @kennychan6006
      @kennychan6006 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for your candid sharing. I am of the same journey. I have strong same-sex attraction feelings, but at the same time, I have strong religious conviction and strong traditional values. Please know that you’re not alone in this journey. We can continue to pray for one another and the community. I trust that with faith Jesus can heal, but it may not be a form of healing that we think or expect. Keep the faith

    • @AcTheMace
      @AcTheMace 2 роки тому +2

      @@kennychan6006 thanks. yeah.
      i feel like I have been able to heal so much mentally over the past 4 years, but same-sex attraction is still here. it hurts more now that all my friends are getting married and I feel like I can't.
      i don't feel hatred for myself anymore for being gay though. i usually think of that as a good thing, but sometimes i doubt that too. what do you think?

    • @kennychan6006
      @kennychan6006 2 роки тому +2

      @@AcTheMace I have been on a similar journey. Most of what you said resonates with me. The majority of my friends are married and often wonder why I’m still single. The embarrassing thing is, I still fall short. I recently “allowed” myself to see a guy, only to break off after a few dates because of my strong religious conviction… and to be honest, I could feel God not wanting me to do this, because of many “coincidental” incidences that I couldn’t explain the reasons for. It is hard, I know that. But I also pray hard to Him to give me a renewed heart and mind. I still have those feelings, but I know God doesn’t want me to act out on them

    • @AcTheMace
      @AcTheMace 2 роки тому +1

      @@kennychan6006 Hmmm, i see. I empathize, that sounds suuuper difficult. That's part of why I haven't yet been in a romantic relationship yet, because i am afraid I'd have to break someone's heart, and maybe my own, because I'll feel convicted that what I'm doing is bad.
      I'm kinda interested in talking more away from this thread. If you're down, I'd like to hear more of your story.

    • @kennychan6006
      @kennychan6006 2 роки тому +2

      @@AcTheMace speaking of breaking others’ hearts, I think you nailed it. That’s exactly how I felt happened to the other person recently. Sure, I’ll be glad to share my story and hear you out. I think it’s good to know that there are other Christians out there who encounter similar situations.

  • @jacobn8396
    @jacobn8396 2 роки тому +1

    God bless you, Your words are very kind Paster, I do think you should go over the book of acts.

  • @craigd9896
    @craigd9896 2 роки тому +4

    I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
    1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
    A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
    The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
    4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
    The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
    5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
    Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
    I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
    Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому +1

      Slavery isn't mentioned but once in the Bible and it's not in the way we like to think it is.
      This talks about servitude. That's what the Bible means when it says that you can have servants. But God also put laws in place on how those servants should be treated. You can go and read that if you'd like.
      As for the daughter part, back then, that's how people made their money. You have to understand that society was not as developed as now and so they lived off of buying and selling people to gain a profit. If you don't have people to work the land and help you sell crops, you more than likely didn't eat.
      The slavery that you're thinking about is not the slavery that Jews had in that day. They had servants that were paid, fed, housed and more. Those servants were taken care of. Now, if the master had been a cruel man, he would face some serious consequences that some times ended in death.

    • @angeliqueo9674
      @angeliqueo9674 2 роки тому +1

      the problem is, you read the bible to find "flaws" and things you can pick at and sarcastically mock it so you may not have bothered to read and understand the new testament; example Galatians 4:21-31. If you read the bible without the Holy Spirit, you will end up creating false ideas, doctrines and perspectives. Out of love, I want you to remember that God cannot be mocked (gal 6:7)

    • @craigd9896
      @craigd9896 2 роки тому +1

      @@angeliqueo9674 How dare you tell me how I read the Bible. I have 6, one very old, line them up and they do not say or mean the same thing. I study the Bible, unlike you its seems who can look up and post verses totally out of context. Not what Jesus Christ taught, and who I follow.
      Maybe try to read several Bibles, and study, read with an open heart and mind, not a locked into what you what it to say, which you seem to do.
      No matter - homosexuality is not a sin, Jesus Christ, who I follow, said not one word about it.
      Out of love is it not me who mocks God who created all, loves all equally; it it you.

    • @angeliqueo9674
      @angeliqueo9674 2 роки тому

      @@craigd9896 its not just about reading the bible; everyone can do that, its about reading it with an open mind as you said, with the help of the Holy Spirit. Leviticus 18:22(kjv) says that (men) should not lie with another man as they lie with women because it is an abomination. And revelation 21:8 says "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” What is considered as being sexually immoral is what is outlined in leviticus 18. Jesus may not have mentioned homosexuality per se, but he definitely talked about sexual immorality. As you said, God is unchanging and things considered as abominations to him back then are still abominations to him now and Jesus said that he did not come to condemn the law but to fulfill it. People have been freed from the spirit of homosexuality, thus its not "natural"...

    • @craigd9896
      @craigd9896 2 роки тому

      @@angeliqueo9674 Do you not knowJesus Christ came in part to put to rest the Old Testament, you still site verses.
      Homosexual are no more immoral than heterosexuals.
      Again - Lev was put to rest by Jesus Christ, yet you keep going to that, and it not what Jesus Christ Taught. You may need to consider some Bible lessons and learn.
      You are flat out wrong, and you seem to speak for God. That is really a grave error. Let me know you with Lev and Abomination - you will find neither have anything to do with homosexuality - its not a sin.
      Homosexuality is seeming barred by Mosaic Law, much of which, such as divorce, was contested by Christ leaving parts of the Law He didn't mention in question. Paul seems to condemn it in 1 Cor. but it is in reference to prostitution. Neither this nor the pagan orgy he mentioned in Rom. is reflective of all homosexual relations any more than the prostitute who bathed Christ's feet with her tears or David and Bathsheba's affair is of all heterosexuals unions.
      Abomination=Tow'ebah in Hebrew-a disgusting thing, abominable in ritual sense of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages, wickedness.
      Abomination-appears a total of 8 times in the NIV translation, and 143 time in the KJV. Which Bible is correct?
      Abomination-appears 6 times in the NT KJV, each time the Greek word 'Bdelugam' i
      Greek 'bdevlugma'= a foul thing, detestable thing, idols, things pertaining to idolatry.
      Where is the homosexuality it that?
      The word Abomination does not have any specific connection to sexuality or sexual conduct. Fact is abomination speaks of idolatry and idolatrous behavior. Conduct directly related to false gods, not homosexuality. The Lord never condemned people for their sexual conduct.He condemned those who engaged in idolatry and worship of false gods.
      I hope that helps. It really good to know before you argue falsehoods in the name of God.

  • @danielgrumbine5255
    @danielgrumbine5255 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you Pastor Jeremy.....I have struggled my entire life....I am that sheep who is caught and losing hope.....wish your church was closer.....I have been beat enough by the church over the years

    • @sunsetstormx
      @sunsetstormx 3 роки тому

      Jesus is for you! He is not against you!

    • @elliotsuh3939
      @elliotsuh3939 3 роки тому

      @@sunsetstormx Yes exactly Jesus will save you brother don't give up 🙏💕

    • @danielgrumbine5255
      @danielgrumbine5255 3 роки тому

      @@pastorbri God didn't make anyone to be gay

    • @smikkles3651
      @smikkles3651 2 роки тому

      @@danielgrumbine5255 Probably because he doesn't exist

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving

  • @xolove3435
    @xolove3435 3 роки тому +1

    Romans 1: 16 and down.
    Deuteronomy 22 5
    The word of God is Blessed!

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

  • @merrytaylor28m-t39
    @merrytaylor28m-t39 4 місяці тому

    I struggle so much and have made huge mistakes, all i want is to stop feeling this way and just be normal. Im not a Christian but i think i should go to church. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, i can keep struggling with the help of God 🙏

    • @user-vm5yk2js6w
      @user-vm5yk2js6w 3 місяці тому +2

      I hope you find soon a loving same-sex partner, marry and raise kids, as many gays do nowadays.
      Homosexuality is a healthy natural sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
      If it was caused by psychological influences, it could be changed to heterosexual in a therapy, but it cant.
      Thats what we know for sure.
      So its innate. Why did it come up in evolution?
      There is a permanent share of 90-96% heterosexuals and 4-10% share of homosexuals in all living beings with sexuality since 385 million years. The reason is the evolutionary advance through several factors, for example: Same-sex sexuality evolved by natural selection because it created or strengthened male-male alliances and female-female alliances and mutual social benefit to all the animals in the tribe, better survive better defense, better social interaction.
      There are interesting studies about it.

    • @TheGreatDetectiveKnows
      @TheGreatDetectiveKnows 3 місяці тому

      There are plenty of genetic mutations in nature, that doesn't automatically make engaging in those inclinations ethical.
      Just because psychopaths have defective genes, and serve an evolutionary purpose, does not mean we should be encouraging psychopaths to take action. Listing off 'beneficial consequences' of said activity is not a metric to determine morality.@@user-vm5yk2js6w

  • @ExistingSmiles
    @ExistingSmiles Рік тому +7

    “you mat struggle all your life, but thats ok, you will be set free in heaven” made me cry

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      It’s a cruel thing to tell people that there suffering is unimportant.
      Struggle is a constant in life, that is true.
      But no one has any right to pick what you suffer for, let alone dismiss the pain of it.
      And of all the things to struggle with, Love should be the one thing we allow in excess.

  • @Peace-uj7jb
    @Peace-uj7jb 3 роки тому +3

    Matthew 19 keep reading eunuchs still are loved

  • @hidafluffminer
    @hidafluffminer 5 місяців тому +1

    I struggle with homosexuality so badly.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 4 місяці тому +1

      Love is not a sin dearest, scripture makes that explicit(Galatians 5:22-23).

    • @Quint-ib4nf
      @Quint-ib4nf 3 місяці тому +1

      What is to struggle with?

    • @kill3rclown690
      @kill3rclown690 Місяць тому +3

      I'm so sorry sweetheart I hope u can accept who u r❤

  • @adriand6883
    @adriand6883 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know, man. This just sounds like making a problem where there isn't one and then saying the negative feelings from pretending it's a problem are somehow good.
    Say someone goes up to an artist and says "My god can help you overcome your sinful desire to draw. You might struggle with the desire to put the pencil to the paper, but don't give in!"
    I see no flames, I smell no smoke, I hear no alarm, I feel no heat. It's the same old story. I'll listen when the flames of hell are demonstrated to be anything more than words on paper.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      *tongue pop*

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 Рік тому

      So sad to hear this....by then it'll be way toooo late. Repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He loves YOU so much, regardless of anything you've done!

  • @Maksie0
    @Maksie0 5 місяців тому +4

    If you're reading this and you're struggling with being gay, stop listening to people who tell you that being gay is something you need to "struggle with". There's nothing wrong with being gay whatsoever. Be yourself!

  • @fuckyoutubengoogle2
    @fuckyoutubengoogle2 3 роки тому +6

    Really important message. I didn't know that Jesus struggled with homosexuality. There is hope for all of us.

    • @fuckyoutubengoogle2
      @fuckyoutubengoogle2 2 роки тому +1

      But Jesus never got married to a woman. There is no hope for any of us.

    • @trifectum3504
      @trifectum3504 2 роки тому +1

      @@fuckyoutubengoogle2 He chose not to lol
      Why would Him not marrying someone equate to no hope?
      Or is this a joke I'm too stupid to get lol

    • @fuckyoutubengoogle2
      @fuckyoutubengoogle2 2 роки тому +1

      @@trifectum3504 I'm not sure. Not having a healthy heterosexual relationship suggests (but is not conclusive) that Jesus never really overcame his homosexual proclivities.

    • @Well.idc.anymore
      @Well.idc.anymore 3 місяці тому

      Wait whatttttt?

  • @jael7505
    @jael7505 Рік тому +2

    I struggle with these thoughts about it, and I listen to gospel everyday bit I still get them idk how to stop thinking about it

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      Love is a fruit of the spirit, against which there is no law(Galatians 5:22-23).
      Why would you resent love?

    • @mercedesm.6254
      @mercedesm.6254 Рік тому +1

      Make sure to fast and pray as well do it often.Fasting helps but don’t give up

  • @nategraham6946
    @nategraham6946 Рік тому +2

    Yep, I've given up hope on that, and most things.

  • @luzramos1775
    @luzramos1775 4 роки тому +9

    Amen Pastor 🙌 ☝️ thank you for those words. As church we needed to hear this .

    • @Peace-uj7jb
      @Peace-uj7jb 3 роки тому

      Read on to Matthew 19 some are born that way. Eunuchs still exist

  • @robertrobbob3384
    @robertrobbob3384 Рік тому +3

    I've been struggling with Homosexuality for 43 years. I was recently saved and baptized. I pray everyday, read the Bible, and STILL struggle with it. I'm losing this battle. I've prayed God take it away, and it continues to drown me.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      Scripture calls Love a fruit of the spirit and states "...against such things there is no law" (Galatians 5:22-23).
      The Anti-gay interpretation of scripture is a fantasy propped up my modern people who are scared.
      I'm happy to hear that you've recently accepted Christ, but I would be wary of believing in the authority of other human beings who claim to speak for God.
      It might be worth looking into Queer congregations if you can.

    • @wololeiro2364
      @wololeiro2364 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Grokforddelusional

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      @@wololeiro2364
      A stunning retort, you would say that wouldn't you.
      Love isn't a sin, if you're more attached to your cultural baggage than scripture that's between you and God but don't pretend that you can't see the words.

    • @wololeiro2364
      @wololeiro2364 Рік тому +2

      @gayandprouds no

    • @wololeiro2364
      @wololeiro2364 Рік тому +2

      @@Grokford wrong

  • @KH97UK
    @KH97UK Місяць тому

    I’ve been suffering from homosexual desires from a very young age. Jesus has come to me as of late and I pray that he can give me the strength to struggle onwards to a life that is deserving of his Kingdom

  • @wallacepullin2534
    @wallacepullin2534 2 роки тому +1

    I recommend going to the Episcopal church if you're lgbtq instead of beating up on yourself and hating yourself as this man suggests you do.

  • @KennetthBurroughs
    @KennetthBurroughs 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm struggling close to no hope believing in Jesus. Keep falling short. Than you for this message...to keep going deeper in faith

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 9 місяців тому +1

      Darling, Love is not a sin.

  • @TonySkeelz
    @TonySkeelz Рік тому +5

    I'm not even gay nor do I have homosexual desires but this message touched my heart. This isn't just about homosexuality it's about sin in general and being delivered by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God bless you for this.

    • @jc6781
      @jc6781 Рік тому +1

      NO NO !!! this message was pure hate

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      No, it was about demonizing love, because some people haven’t understood Several passages of Galatians.

    • @victorbonnah70
      @victorbonnah70 Рік тому

      @@jc6781 u being here tells me that u know what your doing is wrong, but you’re trying to justify your sin

    • @jc6781
      @jc6781 Рік тому

      @@victorbonnah70 ...... reverse psychology ? really ?!?! (well, a poor attempt at reverse psychology) ..... and if that is truly your interpretation ..... it demonstrates how putrid and toxic this rhetoric is. It shows how dangerous religion can be when vulgarly misinterpreted.

  • @ernestlam5632
    @ernestlam5632 2 роки тому +1

    1:00 another interesting nature fact is that the storm bushes you speak of that have the reverse curved thorns have evolved to kill animals to eat them. And domestic sheep with their wool are the most susceptible to this type of predation by brambles. But yes basically they're one of nature's carnivorous plants.

  • @wadestewart1007
    @wadestewart1007 2 роки тому +1

    Hey everybody. Really struggling with a couple of things tonight.

    • @ForWhomTheBellTolls16
      @ForWhomTheBellTolls16 Рік тому

      same here:/

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

  • @soulace843
    @soulace843 3 роки тому +11

    I struggle with this everyday and this is a good word for me. I want a wife tho and i also am attracted to women as woerd as it sounds. I trust Jesus with my struggles and i pray to him and everyday

    • @robertathespider5311
      @robertathespider5311 3 роки тому +3

      My mother knew a man who was like that. He was a pastor. He tried so hard, married a woman, had kids,prayed. He died unable to accept who he was. Don’t make that mistake. You were made to love women and don’t believe those who tell you it is wrong. If God loves all his children then surely you will be accepted. If you want a wife, get out there!! Have the most beautiful wedding!! Love God or whoever you believe in and you will be just fine

    • @fatherramen475
      @fatherramen475 3 роки тому +9

      That’s called being bi dude

    • @wokery
      @wokery 3 роки тому +1

      maybe you’re bisexual!

    • @baileygregory9192
      @baileygregory9192 2 роки тому +1

      @Anglo having feelings of attraction to men and women doesn't make some one a deviant, it can be extremely hard and impossible for some to control how they feel. They are only deviants if they act on these feelings.

  • @black_onyx._6816
    @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому +13

    HAPPY PRIDE MONTH EVERYONE

    • @kayleesmith1268
      @kayleesmith1268 3 роки тому +1

      🌈I stole another rainbow! I also threw away my gender a while ago!

    • @black_onyx._6816
      @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому

      @@kayleesmith1268 idk if you're homosexual or homophobic

    • @uramutt
      @uramutt 2 роки тому +2

      Why post this on a Christan vddo

    • @katedwyer6077
      @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому +2

      @@uramutt cause it’s funny

    • @jpl4136
      @jpl4136 2 роки тому

      @@katedwyer6077 only you think it’s funny because you’re not a Christ-follower.

  • @Ashplaysgamess
    @Ashplaysgamess 2 місяці тому +1

    i hate every little part about myself, and i hate that im out of control with this

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 2 місяці тому

      One way to think about orientation, or ay other likes and dislikes, is like hair.
      bleach your hair, straighten it, dye it, put it in a bow.
      No matter what your hair is, there is a lot that you can do with it.
      If you have kinky hair, it doesn't mean that you have to have an afro,
      Just because your hair is straight, doesn't mean that it always have to be.
      But through all the possible manipulations, decorations and changes, your hair is still what it is.
      Of course you can't control it, that color, texture and shape were decided before you had any input into the matter.
      And you can absolutely cover it up, change it in every conceivable way, but that's a lot of work. Maybe it's worth it to you, maybe it's only worth it for a little while.
      There's no one way to be gay, or trans, or Queer.
      You don't _have_ to do or be anything.
      How you choose to style yourself is your decision.

    • @MrCoolh20
      @MrCoolh20 2 місяці тому

      Please don't hate yourself. I also struggle with these feelings. You're not alone. God will help us. He says so at Psalm 55:22 . Turn to God for help.

    • @kill3rclown690
      @kill3rclown690 Місяць тому

      It's who u r buddy there's nothing wrong with being gay or bi or whatever.

  • @radixreuel7631
    @radixreuel7631 Рік тому +1

    It’s a challenge when someone who is bringing to light a specific sin doesn’t confess there own struggle with it personally. Why would an alcoholic place credibility on someone who never staggered, madly through it themselves?
    Instead of helpful it just comes off as pious & fraudulent. Those of us who’ve have an authentic battle with this need more courageous X’rs (courageous & Jesus loving people who are specifically on the front lines).
    Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
    -Isaiah 41:10

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      You’re right of course, but have you asked yourself why you’re struggling in the first place?
      Are your thoughts and feelings really that different from everyone else?

  • @cxperkins216
    @cxperkins216 2 роки тому +6

    Pray for me! I have committed homosexuality! I need prayer and deliverance.

    • @dorisuhlman6358
      @dorisuhlman6358 2 роки тому +2

      If you need to talk I'm here ♥️

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @Lurotimi
      @Lurotimi Рік тому

      @@dorisuhlman6358 please I need deliverance. I need someone to talk to🙏🏾🥹

    • @jenifferrodriguez3048
      @jenifferrodriguez3048 Рік тому

      @@Grokford “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”Leviticus 18:22

  • @harrisrosenberg7992
    @harrisrosenberg7992 8 місяців тому +6

    This is actual born-again truth. Im one but i love Jesus so i keep struggling. Never wanted to be gay. This message was very encouraging.

    • @maximarosen777
      @maximarosen777 7 місяців тому +1

      I was delivered 100% from these struggles after many years... 37 years old and finally truly seeking Jesus finally one night it was gone. Never came back! Praying for same freedom, keep wrestling with God. He rejoices over you

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      This is ignorant bigotry.
      Love is not a sin.

    • @DemiLot
      @DemiLot 2 місяці тому

      This is not love queen. Its Lust

  • @blaiddfumbler
    @blaiddfumbler Місяць тому

    I'm a 16-year-old dude, I've been struggling with this, I've been having thoughts about other boys and I'm just hating myself, I don't want to think like this, it's against the Bible to be like this, I'm just seeking help rn.
    Like I'm not sure what happened, everything seemed normal until I turned 12, I started getting crushes for boys n all that, I've been suppressing my thoughts for a very long time but now I'm just unhappy with myself, I just want to eliminate that part of me.
    Every time I open up the Bible, I'm just reminded of myself, I feel a lot of guilt reading the Bible, like I'm betraying God because of my attractions.
    I've been praying to God about it as well, but this attraction never subsided and it's just prevalent constantly.

    • @MrCoolh20
      @MrCoolh20 28 днів тому +1

      Hey. I struggle with these feelings just like you. God continues to help me and he will help you too. Please read Psalms 55:22. Don't give up. You're not alone.

  • @nh721
    @nh721 Рік тому +2

    Theres nothing wrong with a same sex relationship as long as the Lord is included.
    Read Matthew Vines book ' God and the Gay Christian. The 6 clobber verses must be studied in context. I think you will be pleasantly surprised

  • @phcnh
    @phcnh 3 роки тому +10

    I’m not struggling. I’m embracing myself.

    • @queencoco3481
      @queencoco3481 2 роки тому

      You are lying to yourself

    • @cedriceddy205
      @cedriceddy205 2 роки тому +1

      So proud of you

    • @jesusiscoming4180
      @jesusiscoming4180 2 роки тому +3

      @@cedriceddy205 Don't condem sin. Would you reward a rapist for his crimes? Would you reward a liar for being a common liar? Would you reward a thief for stealing? No. No pride in rebbeling against God.

    • @chris-jp3le
      @chris-jp3le 11 місяців тому

      @@jesusiscoming4180
      comparing homosexuality to rape or stealing is not an accurate or fair comparison, as those are behaviors that are harmful to others and are illegal, whereas homosexuality is a harmless and consensual expression of love and attraction.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 5 місяців тому

      Sad but understandable to hear that you have given up. It truly does seem easier sometimes, and I can't blame anyone for it. I still hope that you will one day find new strength and continue to struggle. It is hard, but in the long run it's worth it.

  • @aguywhoplaysstuff2107
    @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 Рік тому +7

    I just came out as bi and trans to my family!

  • @Kingkong-hz3nt
    @Kingkong-hz3nt Місяць тому

    The line keep struggling until u set free from heaven 😭😭😭…What wrong have i done in my previous life that I carry heavy loaded upon my shoulders 😭😭..Lord if u willing clean me n make me live in your will

  • @Quint-ib4nf
    @Quint-ib4nf 7 місяців тому +1

    Whats to struggle with?

  • @nickgagnon3626
    @nickgagnon3626 3 роки тому +13

    Nothing to struggle with. Nothing wrong with being homosexual.

    • @black_onyx._6816
      @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому

      @@stoned_at_the_nail_salon EXACTLY

    • @theaceofdaves4121
      @theaceofdaves4121 3 роки тому +2

      There may not be anything wrong with Homosexuality, but that doesn't mean you can't struggle with it when it is unwanted in your life.
      Try to be more understanding.

    • @nickgagnon3626
      @nickgagnon3626 3 роки тому

      @@theaceofdaves4121 I was saying they shouldnt feel ashamed by it.

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому +1

      There is something to struggle with if you don't want it

    • @senorsoup8790
      @senorsoup8790 2 роки тому

      he he gay

  • @aguywhoplaysstuff2107
    @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 10 місяців тому +3

    Be happy if you’re homosexual, now you get to laugh at conservatives

    • @tord3871
      @tord3871 9 місяців тому

      Repent

    • @aguywhoplaysstuff2107
      @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 9 місяців тому +1

      @@tord3871 We’re both trans and homosexual though

    • @tord3871
      @tord3871 9 місяців тому

      @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 no I'm not trans or homosexual anymore cuz I repented unlike u

    • @aguywhoplaysstuff2107
      @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 9 місяців тому +1

      @@tord3871I’d rather grab a gun and shoot myself in the head

    • @aguywhoplaysstuff2107
      @aguywhoplaysstuff2107 9 місяців тому +1

      @@tord3871you also switched sides real quick, on gender, sexuality, and religion, I think you were faking it for clout

  • @shark1957
    @shark1957 2 місяці тому

    I got convicted recently and became born again but i struggle so much with my feelings cause Of the girl i loved that left me
    I think about how happy i was with her , she didn’t feel the same she just used me but i still think about the memories seems like those were the happiest times of my life
    I know its a sin and i can never go back to being a lesbian I genuinely cant but the feelings are just too much to bare sometimes
    To everyone struggling with them too i hope the Lord has mercy and delivers as for me i dont know if ill ever be set free

  • @KevinCurtisBarr
    @KevinCurtisBarr 2 роки тому +1

    Amen

  • @chasityh5206
    @chasityh5206 3 роки тому +7

    God dont make mistakes, I love god,he loves me,anyone who is gay,its ok .... if u love one,and dont go around having sex with all people,its ok!!! Love is love...

    • @In_time
      @In_time 3 роки тому +3

      How many is “all” people?
      How do you define what is acceptable? Or unacceptable?
      What makes you the authority?
      I don’t ask to be rude or in an attitude but only to make the point that we do not have the authority to define right/wrong.
      We cannot. But He can. We have to try to live as the Lord has called us to live.. to strive for holiness as He is holy.
      His standards are what He will measure us by. Not the ones we set for ourselves.
      Repent...Seek Him while He may be found. The hour is very late.
      Time is running out.

  • @robertathespider5311
    @robertathespider5311 3 роки тому +10

    Homophobia is a sin

    • @nathanpenick959
      @nathanpenick959 3 роки тому +3

      Maybe, but define homophobia. One doesn't have to hate or be afraid of gay people to not accept that as fruitful or good lifestyle to stay in

    • @black_onyx._6816
      @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому +1

      yasss btw happy pride month

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому +2

      I hate that term because it's being used so wrongly. It's not a sin to be scared of gay people. If you hate them that's just prejudice.

    • @jenifferrodriguez3048
      @jenifferrodriguez3048 Рік тому

      There’s no such thing of people having a “phobia of gays”. What a weird thing to say

  • @nategraham6946
    @nategraham6946 2 роки тому +1

    I have quit trying to think or believe that Jesus actually did die for that or me, so there is no point in me even trying to think/believe that.

  • @orandmontgomery1677
    @orandmontgomery1677 Місяць тому +2

    Pray for me I'm a struggling homosexual

    • @MrCoolh20
      @MrCoolh20 Місяць тому +1

      Hey. I struggle with this same as you. God will help us. It says so at Psalms 55: 22. You're in my prayers

    • @Lurotimi
      @Lurotimi 24 дні тому

      @@MrCoolh20how are you coping please?😢

    • @MrCoolh20
      @MrCoolh20 24 дні тому

      ​@Lurotimi Some days are easier than others. But I pray to Jehovah God constantly for his help. The bible gives me hope like the scripture at 1 Corthinthians 10: 13. God promises to help us. What about you?

    • @Lurotimi
      @Lurotimi 24 дні тому

      @@MrCoolh20 I have been trying to abstain and pray to God for a pure and clear mind, it’s been working but I don’t know how to avoid friends I’ve had from that lifestyle. They keep coming to me

    • @MrCoolh20
      @MrCoolh20 23 дні тому +1

      ​@Lurotimi I understand. Most of my friends moved on once I told them about my decision to leave the lifestyle. I try to talk about God and the bible to the few that remain. It helps to keep me on track. Pray to God about it. He will help you with this as well.

  • @m.f.5739
    @m.f.5739 8 місяців тому +3

    These words are like a healing balm for my soul. I'm going through this currently, and have only little hope left sometimes. This is exactly the message I need now. I don't know if it will be enough to get me out, but it helps me to stand up and struggle again and again. Thank you so much.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому +1

      Love is not a sin.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 7 місяців тому

      ​@@GrokfordWow, two very vaguely defined terms in one attemp to explain something.
      What do you mean by "love"? A loving family? Love you have towards a good friend? Love in a sexual context? Then, who defines what sin is? You? Society? The government? Every individual subjectively?
      It's very unclear what this statement is supposed to tell me.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      @@m.f.5739
      If you want to be pedantic you can look at 1 Corinthians 13, that's a popular definition.
      But if I'm speaking frankly, I think you know what Love is, even if you can't match the word to the concept.
      Love is a moral good, arguably the primary good.
      Demonizing it because of a prejudiced view of gender is immoral.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 7 місяців тому

      @@Grokford Sure I was a bit provocative with my questions, but I think there is still a problem that we don't differentiate between different kinds of love and their appropriateness. I think, for example, having the same kind of love to a familiy member than one has to a partner would be considered wrong or immoral by most. This doesn't mean you shouldn't love your family, but that the love for them is a different one, a non-sexual. So why shouldn't it be possibke to make a differentiation between the kind of love one should have to the opposite sex and to the same sex?
      My second point is that these morals aren't universal, therefore the question "What is sin". Sure there are some core morals that about 95% of society agree on, like that one shouldn't murder somebody else, but a lot of morals are subjective. For some, sex before marriage is immoral, for some it's not. For some, drinking alcohol is immoral, for some it's just a fun activitey on weekends. For some, cursing is immoral, for some it is completely normal. I think same sex attraction falls into this category. It's not universally immoral, but it is subjectively immoral for some people, and I would count myself to these people. But I, contrary to you, don't claim that this moral is true for everyone. If someone can bring his same sex attraction in accordance with his conscience and act on it without having to remove every mirror from his house, fine. If someone can't or doesn't want to, fine.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      @@m.f.5739
      " but I think there is still a problem that we don't differentiate between different kinds of love and their appropriateness. "
      I was talking about Love proper, though most types of love are also morally acceptable.
      "This doesn't mean you shouldn't love your family, but that the love for them is a different one, a non-sexual."
      Sex isn't Love and Love isn't sex, there's no need to conflate them or to classify the presence of sex as a new variety of Love.
      You don't say that people love eachother culinarily because they cook for one another.
      "So why shouldn't it be possibke to make a differentiation between the kind of love one should have to the opposite sex and to the same sex?"
      Well obviously it's very possible for people to make differentiations of that kind, they're just universally baseless, sexist or both.
      There is no moral distinction between Loving a son and Loving a daughter, there is no moral distinction between a man Loving his wife and a wife Loving her husband.
      So what is the moral distinction between someone Loving a same sex partner or an opposite sex partner:
      None that I have ever found.
      " For some, cursing is immoral, for some it is completely normal. I think same sex attraction falls into this category."
      Well then you already agree that homosexuality is is morally acceptable in some circumstances and it follows that you should agree that universal condemnation are incorrect.
      "If someone can bring his same sex attraction in accordance with his conscience"
      I would agree that the primacy of conscience is valuable, but many time a conscience can be wrong.
      Many people suffer from needless guilt for things that are not their faul or else were unavoidable.
      This is even more so the case when Queer people are born into homophobic societies.
      Shame is a powerful weapon wielded on the most vulnerable.
      I dare say that most Queer people are only able to be Queer because they had to unlearn the shame that someone else put onto them
      Though while we're on the subject, do you have the same standard for interracial couples?
      Is interracial marriage immoral if one or both partners feel guilty about it?

  • @stxrrjoy
    @stxrrjoy 3 роки тому +13

    being gay or being any part of the lgbtq+ community is not a "struggle."

    • @black_onyx._6816
      @black_onyx._6816 3 роки тому +1

      YES

    • @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      @justuravergekpopluvinfeminist 2 роки тому +1

      Maybe not for you but, for those of us who don't want it, it is. Don't watch the video if you can't relate

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      @@justuravergekpopluvinfeminist
      Why don't you want it?

    • @jenifferrodriguez3048
      @jenifferrodriguez3048 Рік тому

      Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men. 1 Corinthians 6:9
      The God I serve doesn’t accept it so therefore as followers of him we shouldn’t as well.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      @@jenifferrodriguez3048
      I don’t accept human-additions from the 1940s as gospel.
      That passage is a well-known mistranslation.
      _”ἀρσενοκοῖται”_ has no implications of same sex anything. The word itself is a plural noun with no definite gender.
      The original Greek says nothing about homoeroticism or homosexuality.
      Furthermore scripture is very clear in its stance on love “against such things there is no law” (Galatians 5:22-23).
      In future I would recommend being a bit more diplomatic when entering into these discussions.
      Because we can always be wrong and even if I were wrong in this case it does not give you the right to decide what I should believe for me.
      “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.”
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭4‬-‭6‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      So respectfully, that passage does not say what you think it says and even so it’s not your place to tell me or anyone else what we should be believing.

  • @lewisedwards4058
    @lewisedwards4058 Рік тому +1

    I believe Christ has come to save us, and I believe He has saved me- but how long until He frees me from the thorns of same sex attraction? Am I simply supposed to live the rest of my life in abject misery and only hope for peace and joy in Heaven? It’s affecting to much of my life to wait much longer without resorting to drastic and harmful actions.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.

    • @CyborgNinja7
      @CyborgNinja7 Рік тому

      Lord, please comfort Lewis and take care of his needs. Give him joy, peace, fulfillment - things only you can give and nothing in the world can come close to fulfilling.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, you have already let religion ruin your life. You need to break free of this and be yourself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having gay sex.

  • @Matias22134
    @Matias22134 4 місяці тому +2

    CAN'T BELIEVE THIS KIND OF VIDEOOOOOS

  • @katedwyer6077
    @katedwyer6077 2 роки тому +3

    Lmao it’s not a struggle. I’m thriving as a homosexual!!

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml Рік тому

      "Apostle to the homosexual": ua-cam.com/video/shjhBL-T8r0/v-deo.html

    • @tiddlywinks15
      @tiddlywinks15 Рік тому +2

      Why are you here then?

    • @jenifferrodriguez3048
      @jenifferrodriguez3048 Рік тому +3

      Good for you. You don’t speak for everyone else tho. Others are actually here for change

    • @Hrd4
      @Hrd4 Рік тому

      ​@@tiddlywinks15 my question exactly....thriver needs to go to the "thriving as a homosexual " video and put those commenters down!

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      ​@@tiddlywinks15He's here to make his point, and it's very valid. I'm gay also, and I agree with him.

  • @bobby1970
    @bobby1970 8 місяців тому +3

    Homosexuality is not a struggle, unless you let it be so. All of you gay and bisexual men need to realize that religion is causing your struggles.

    • @m.f.5739
      @m.f.5739 8 місяців тому +1

      Everything can be a struggle or not. Smoking isn't a struggle either unless you try to quit. But this shouldn't discourage us, in contrary.

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 місяців тому

      It's not an either or choice.
      God is Love, so why would Love be a sin.

    • @kill3rclown690
      @kill3rclown690 Місяць тому

      It's not a struggle these people r just in denial of who they r

  • @demaryiuswhite1243
    @demaryiuswhite1243 Рік тому +1

    I been struggling with it for years now I pray and nothing happened

    • @robleeg
      @robleeg Рік тому +1

      Keep praying. I have as well. I still have same sex attraction. However, God has given me self control to be able to resist the devil

    • @demaryiuswhite1243
      @demaryiuswhite1243 Рік тому

      @@robleeg amen

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      Love is a fruit of the spirit, God is infinite so why would all Love all be the same⸮

    • @Death_itself223
      @Death_itself223 9 місяців тому +2

      @@robleegit’s messing with your head I’m telling you.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 8 місяців тому

      Please don't let religion ruin your life. You should have and enjoy gay sex. I know I do. Homosexuality is awesome.

  • @sammylee5683
    @sammylee5683 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this message, it was a great encouragement for me

  • @TacticalTrucker
    @TacticalTrucker 2 роки тому +8

    _H•m•s•xuality and feminism in men are symptoms of low testosterone; higher testosterone men showed greater increases on masculine attitudes like support for Competitiveness, getting the job done, taking care of business, working out and negative views of H•m•s•xuality, eat foods rich in _*_Zinc_*_ and get plenty of rest_

    • @patrickeason7239
      @patrickeason7239 2 роки тому

      That is very wrong. Men trying to increase testosterone to get rid of homosexuality does great damage over time and it doesn't get rid of homosexuality. Sorry. Negative views are negative.

  • @tiddlywinks15
    @tiddlywinks15 Рік тому +4

    I will not stop struggling to try to get myself normal🙏

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +4

      You are normal.
      The love isn’t any different because of someone’s gender.

    • @tiddlywinks15
      @tiddlywinks15 Рік тому +1

      Thank you guys for being so nice it means a lot

    • @victorbonnah70
      @victorbonnah70 Рік тому

      Your normal, we all are it’s just that some people deal with different kinds of sin. Trust me u are normal. We’re just natural born sinners but we have to try our best to live the standards we’re thought by Christ

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому +1

      @@victorbonnah70
      Love isn’t a sin Victoria.

    • @victorbonnah70
      @victorbonnah70 Рік тому +2

      @@Grokford I never said love is a sin. There’s nothing wrong with love at all but it’s how we act on em. I love my friends but doesn’t mean I want to be intimate with them. There are boundaries people aren’t supposed to cross. But hey, I’m not telling u how to live ur life, u can do absolutely whatever u want. I choose to live my life the way I want so I don’t u should have a problem with that.🩶

  • @johanneshendrikslabbert8185
    @johanneshendrikslabbert8185 2 місяці тому

    I struggled with being homosexual since I was still a teenager, yet I tried to accept that I had to deal with it. As for me it was not a life style, more of a identity, just as being hetrosexual. It was not a choice, as some believe.

  • @dennisr3738
    @dennisr3738 2 роки тому +2

    🔥THE STRUGGLE IS REAL🔥

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford Рік тому

      God does not care about gender (Galatians 3:28), Love is the nature of God (1 John 4:8) and love is a fruit of the spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).
      Struggling against the passions that God has instilled in you is counterproductive (1 Corinthians 7:9).
      Love is our noblest calling, it is the greatest commandment, _no one_ should _ever_ feel shame for loving.