Be Sub-10 With 5 TPS

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  • @BrinaSun
    @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +43

    Honestly people are wrong.
    Move count for CFOP in 2022 is sub50 for me and it should be for you, you only need 3-4 tps for sub50 movecounts.
    Even then, there’s no one that can’t turn at 5 TPS anyway so why bother arguing about that?

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +6

      Also, TUL ZBLL is something you should definitely learn which will make your move count go down

    • @khairur_rachim
      @khairur_rachim 2 роки тому +4

      That 3 tps is a total lie. That's why people is arguing that, u can changing it to 5tps at least

    • @hat9071
      @hat9071 2 роки тому

      I can't turn with 5 tps but all my sub 10 solves are like around 35 moves with 3-4 tps

    • @rax1899
      @rax1899 Рік тому

      No, ur wrong

    • @benjaminstacks644
      @benjaminstacks644 9 місяців тому

      My grandpa

  • @BoldSolver
    @BoldSolver 2 роки тому +34

    THIS IS actually really Helpful. I am a cuber who averages like 15 seconds ONLY and I think you are right, I pause during F2L (MY GREATEST ENEMY?) so I need to be efficient and Lookahead very good. Nice video Tho!!

    • @ajaj-yq6re
      @ajaj-yq6re 5 місяців тому

      the reality is you need 5-6 tps with efficient solutions. Here is some basic math. if you want a sub 10 with 3 tps you need less than 30 moves which is basically world record level efficiency and super easy scrambles. If you want a sub 10 solve with 4 tps your solve would be less than 40 moves which is high unlikely. For your solves to be sub 10 with 5 tps your solves with need to have less than 50 moves which makes sense. For most people who aren't super efficient and don't know every single possible f2l 6 tps is more realistic. Aim for 6 or higher which is when you'll start to actually get good.
      Almost every pro has 10+ tps so with an inefficient solve so around 60-65 moves you'll still average around 7 secs or faster with some pauses

    • @welmscott3246
      @welmscott3246 4 місяці тому

      You should learn pseudslotting

  • @Feverstockphoto
    @Feverstockphoto 2 роки тому +14

    Excellent! I'm in the process of learning Full OLL and hope to be done by end of next month. I'll give them a couple of months to sink into my muscle memory then I'll start to learn all the F2L cases 👍

    • @Feverstockphoto
      @Feverstockphoto 2 роки тому

      I'm just looking to get to sub 25 seconds by end of the year, so if 3tps can get me there I'll be happy. I just need to shave 4 seconds off my solves 👍

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder 2 роки тому +1

      @@Feverstockphoto it’ll happen

    • @Feverstockphoto
      @Feverstockphoto 2 роки тому

      @@OneDerscoreOneder Thanks, I hope it will 👍

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +4

      Yep you will
      Learning F2L first is a better idea but as long as you learn both it’s fine

    • @Feverstockphoto
      @Feverstockphoto 2 роки тому +3

      @@BrinaSun Yep I'm realizing now how important F2L is and how important it is to get it good early on to prevent bad habits sinking in to deep. They can become like a stubborn stain, a lot harder to get out! 👍.

  • @spacevspitch4028
    @spacevspitch4028 2 роки тому +8

    Great video, really. I usually do a handful of solves on cubeast with the ganicarry (cuz Gan's app seems to still be trash at this point 🤦‍♂️) and my TPS is in the 3-4s range with my most recent ao1000 around 21s. But I'm well aware it's my efficiency more than anything that's the time killer. Cuz I can pull 16tps with 4 x Sexy, E-perm in a second, T-perm in a second, etc. Though a few of my slower OLL and PLL algs could probably be upgraded.
    So, really it's just the pauses for recognition and inefficient F2L shenanigans. Like, I realize I don't actually have a full solution for all 41 F2L cases. I have like, maybe half (generally, the ones where corner and edge are already in the top layer) and the rest I'm always haphazardly fenagling them into one of those cases. Some of those fenagling solutions have become more or less standardized from solving so much but I don't know if they're the most efficient. It's just most efficient that *I* could see. Might be something better.
    But also, even though I can run many of those solutions blind, I still have a lot of situations where I simply don't see shit when I look around the cube as I'm running them 😐
    Anyway, yeah, TPS is probably not the #1, or even #2 time killer.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +1

      Learn all cases using my video

    • @spacevspitch4028
      @spacevspitch4028 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun Word. I was just checking that out actually. Just haven't got too far into it yet. Pog tho.

    • @ajaj-yq6re
      @ajaj-yq6re 5 місяців тому

      that's nuts, the fastest I can do t perm which is my best alg next to j perm is around 6 tps and peak 7 tps and average around 5 tps. For brina, 5 tps is super slow but that's fast for me lol. I can't fathom 10 tps. Since I improved a lot recently, I'm around 11-14 secs now with some 16-17 sec solves

  • @bryantf1147
    @bryantf1147 2 роки тому +21

    3 turns / second = 30 turns / 10 second.
    Average cfop solution = 50 turns.
    50 turns / 10 seconds is more than 3 tps.

    • @tiagogouveia3647
      @tiagogouveia3647 2 роки тому +1

      just try to do 5-7 tps

    • @HdbokNguyen
      @HdbokNguyen 2 роки тому +2

      I think the Cfop avg cfop solution is 55-60 moves

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +7

      That’s the thing bro “average” is outdated
      Be like me and average sub50 moves which is 4 tps

    • @gustavopinedaxd
      @gustavopinedaxd Рік тому

      @@BrinaSun how do you average less moves

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  Рік тому +2

      @@gustavopinedaxd because im more efficient?

  • @Miiloh
    @Miiloh 6 місяців тому +1

    Can you make a video explaining how to solve f2l with only the 41 algs? Like converting it for lefty and back slot. Or would you recommend just learning new algs for that?

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  6 місяців тому +2

      Simply use the same ones for the back slots as the front slots
      ua-cam.com/video/D2dbX7Uta7g/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @joshriker4173
    @joshriker4173 6 місяців тому

    This also helps with your LL recognition to reduce that pausing that would normally occur, especially if you get familiar with how your F2L cases influence EO

  • @Miiloh
    @Miiloh 6 місяців тому

    Thanks, now I have some direction for what to work on next.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  6 місяців тому +1

      Excellent!

  • @thf1933
    @thf1933 6 місяців тому +2

    Well yeah, you can do 15 wec with 3 tps and a good scramble. With 5 tps that will be sub 10 sec or 12 sec for not so good scramble.
    I myself want to work at lookahead a bit but Im still lazy ) For this as I know you need to learn the corner pieces to recognize them with unseen colors. Second you need to learn how the simple moves like RUR' affect other pieces to know what happening with the cube when you turning. And third practice slowturning with different tempo to have a time for thinking but doing it nonstop.

  • @pokefan05
    @pokefan05 2 місяці тому

    From my expierience, more efficient=faster even if you have to turn slower to do so. It's how I got my first sub 10 solve

  • @curiousNic
    @curiousNic 2 роки тому +9

    An average TPS of 5 - 6 is more realistic for sub 10 but I get your point. With better efficiency and lookahead (which leads to less pauses) you don‘t need super high TPS. Pauses and unnecessary rotations are big TPS killers.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +1

      4 tps is enough

    • @curiousNic
      @curiousNic 2 роки тому +1

      @@BrinaSun Yes, but only if your solve is very efficient with good lookahead, no pauses and no lockups. Which is probably not the case with the majority of solves for most cubers.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +3

      Bruh it’s the goal
      It’s implied that you need to gitgud first

    • @curiousNic
      @curiousNic 2 роки тому +2

      @@BrinaSun Lol, I understand that and I love the message of the video. Still think it’s a bit exaggerated but that shouldn’t stop us all from trying.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому +1

      @@curiousNic exaggerated but possible
      more like 3-4 tps but there’s no one that can’t turn at 5 tps so

  • @aaronrattanachaipipat
    @aaronrattanachaipipat 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for reminding me Brian! I know I’m dumb and it’s pointless to say this but I’m desperately trying to get sub 10!

  • @Bangaudaala
    @Bangaudaala 6 місяців тому

    i mean, its simple math, 50 move solve, 5tps, no pauses means 50/5=10 seconds, but I doubt people do OLL and PLL at a max of 5tps, there are some that with practice and the right fingertricks a lot of people should be able to do at at least 8tps like Tperm or Jperm

  • @Kirigamine21
    @Kirigamine21 10 місяців тому

    What cube is that please, I kinda like it

  • @btrhieu_ir
    @btrhieu_ir 16 днів тому

    what's cube do u use?

  • @Blendershick
    @Blendershick 10 місяців тому

    I'm constantly getting TPS around 4.5-5 and I've had sub10 solves. But the problem is that the number of rotations should be less than 50.

  • @undedude4272
    @undedude4272 2 роки тому

    Pog

  • @ReubenBBX
    @ReubenBBX Місяць тому

    my tps is around 4.9-6 and i average 12-13 but i get the occatinall 9. i hope this video can help

  • @MatthewGray817
    @MatthewGray817 2 роки тому

    Duplex moment

  • @fearfarees6415
    @fearfarees6415 7 місяців тому

    How do i become more consistent sometimes i get a sub 10 the next one i get a 16

  • @coconutcubes5750
    @coconutcubes5750 Рік тому

    How could one average sub-50 moves on crop without ZBLL? I average around 60-70 moves per cfop solve, solves with under 55 moves are considered "lucky" for me, solves under 50 or even 45 moves are super easy solves

  • @malikadraws
    @malikadraws Місяць тому

    me: getting sub 40 with 6-8 tps My recommendations:

    • @thomb.9013
      @thomb.9013 11 днів тому

      yeah.. you're not turning 6-8 tps or you are somehow having a 240 to 320 movecount solution. beginners method averages 120 moves or so. that is already way more efficient so I doubt you're turning that fast.

  • @amitadeshpande8474
    @amitadeshpande8474 Рік тому

    but 3 tps means 30 moves which is almost completely eaten up by last layer

  • @muchengliu
    @muchengliu 2 роки тому

    so im sure that all the f2l is in my muscle memory but I still want to look at them when I solve

  • @CfopCubing
    @CfopCubing 2 роки тому +1

    I caught it in 57 seconds!!

  • @SchSlendy
    @SchSlendy Місяць тому

    good video again proving im trash at f2l

  • @JamesonJamestackSwick
    @JamesonJamestackSwick 2 роки тому

    😳

  • @ViswathKumaraa
    @ViswathKumaraa 2 роки тому +6

    bro 3 tps sub 10 = less than 30 moves a solve gives a sub 10.
    i think you need atleast 5 tps

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      No 40 turns is what I average (sub50) and 4 tps is enough
      I say 3-4 in the video

    • @rax1899
      @rax1899 Рік тому +6

      @@BrinaSun bros more efficient than Tymon

    • @skellq4385
      @skellq4385 2 місяці тому

      @@BrinaSunNot here to argue, but 40 turns average is completely unrealistic unless you know zbll and zbls. This is not to be expected of someone simply wanting to be sub 10. Even tymon struggles with 40 turns, as this dude said. Anyways, I agree with your point still.

    • @skellq4385
      @skellq4385 2 місяці тому

      @@BrinaSunif im being generous. Cross on average takes six moves.. If im being generous, (very generous) F2l on average takes 20 moves. There is absolutely no way your last layer would be 14 moves without zbll, and you have to remember that a 20 move f2l is rare even with maximum efficiency and a 6 move cross is just kind of lucky. EDIT: if we take the average moves of f2l, which is around 25-30, that means ur last layer would average 9 moves. Once again, completely unrealistic

  • @PJ_Geek
    @PJ_Geek 5 місяців тому

    you likes a j perm 😂

  • @amitadeshpande8474
    @amitadeshpande8474 Рік тому

    you might feel like you average sub 50 moves but you probably average 55 as your algs dont really affect movecount and u use oll pll

  • @hat9071
    @hat9071 2 роки тому +1

    0:10 you can also be sub 10 with like no efficiency but 15 tps

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      lol

    • @egyptiancuber
      @egyptiancuber Рік тому +1

      If you're Ruihang xu

    • @asr2009
      @asr2009 Рік тому

      @@egyptiancuber well u can even be sub 5 that way

  • @khairur_rachim
    @khairur_rachim 2 роки тому

    U need to be efficient like sub 40 moves on every solve if u want to get sub 10 on 3 tps

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      sub50 is enough i said 3-4 in the video

    • @khairur_rachim
      @khairur_rachim 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun 49 moves with 4.9 gets 10 flat

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      As if that matters
      4.899999999999999 then jeez

    • @khairur_rachim
      @khairur_rachim 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun ok

  • @Sickened-Youtube
    @Sickened-Youtube 10 місяців тому

    nah, turn faster, solve faster.

  • @cariyaputta
    @cariyaputta 3 місяці тому

    I counted the moves and your solve is at 6.8 TPS (53/7.74).

  • @JosephBurnett937
    @JosephBurnett937 7 місяців тому +1

    Me who's only sub 11 and has a 0.56 Jb Perm 💀

  • @cubeforslo9333
    @cubeforslo9333 2 роки тому +2

    There's an event for this exactly. It's called fewest moves lol!

  • @caspase9893
    @caspase9893 2 роки тому +44

    DAY 81 OF ASKING BRIAN TO LEARN 3x3 BLINDFOLDED

  • @DwaynejohnZZon-uj9tj
    @DwaynejohnZZon-uj9tj 7 місяців тому

    3 TPs means a 29 move solution wtf

  • @selcouthdood4622
    @selcouthdood4622 2 роки тому +3

    (Commenting before watching the video) don’t get the title. If you turn 3 tps and you’re sub 10 then your solves are less than 30 moves long. Pog
    But you’re probably gonna say be more efficient and stuff 🐽🐽🐽🐽👍👍👍🐽👍

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      lol more like 3-4 tps

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      is an exaggeration, theres no cuber that actually cant do 4-5 tps so yeah (40-50 moves is average if youre efficient like me)

    • @hat9071
      @hat9071 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun I can’t do 4-5 tps

    • @hat9071
      @hat9071 2 роки тому

      My pb single is 9.22 with 3.6 tps

    • @guroux
      @guroux 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun you actually average under 50 moves?!

  • @krystofbasl
    @krystofbasl 4 місяці тому +1

    bro the solve you showed was 6.5 tps and i avg 9 tps but this is jast a lie

  • @AndersBarhaugen
    @AndersBarhaugen Рік тому

    Bruh, your solve was almost 7 tps

  • @hongsoonkang9789
    @hongsoonkang9789 9 місяців тому

    thank you i got like 2 sec faster from watching this vid:)

  • @112B25
    @112B25 5 місяців тому

    my move count avg 100+ ( dont know full oll ) i m sub 18

  • @olie567
    @olie567 2 роки тому +1

    ratio lil bro

  • @Goo_Gle.
    @Goo_Gle. 2 роки тому

    Dude. Being efficient at cfop gives u 50 move solutions on average. Consistently below 50 moves is sus if you aren’t Tymon.
    (And why would you want to get as good as Tymon efficiency-wise and not work on your tps? That’s just trading one form of training for another. None of them is easier)
    That means u definitely need more than 3-4 tps to be sub 10. Use a metronome and framecount an ao100. If u can pull off sub 10 ao100 at 3.5tps( U said 3tps in the vid but I’ll give u an extra 0.5tps coz why not ) If u can pull that off, I’ll switch to cfop, no cap😆. It’s just not possible - doesn’t matter if you can go pauseless

    • @sean4551
      @sean4551 2 роки тому

      He can do math kid. People are just bad at counting and say their max tps is 3. He’s just saying 3 tps so those people get it

    • @Goo_Gle.
      @Goo_Gle. 2 роки тому

      @@sean4551 The thing is, 5tps is decently fast, no matter how you look at it. No need to get people’s hopes up if in the end they’re still gonna have to turn somewhat fast

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      Sub50 is 3-4.9 tps

    • @Goo_Gle.
      @Goo_Gle. 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun 4.9 is basically 5😂. Also, you are not sub 50 moves on cfop. Close, yeah. But definitely not sub 50🤝

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      @@Goo_Gle. bet I’ll do ao12 because I don’t have time to do an entire ao100

  • @twandullemond6800
    @twandullemond6800 2 роки тому +2

    This is lik 5 tps bro

  • @pesudion4149
    @pesudion4149 2 роки тому

    Ain no. Way u can got sub 10 with 3 tips cut move count would be like 30 moves

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      I average sub50 moves so it’s 3-4 tps

    • @pesudion4149
      @pesudion4149 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun tbh that doesn't make any sense

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      What? If you average under 50 moves then the highest it could be is 4.9 tps

    • @pesudion4149
      @pesudion4149 2 роки тому

      @@BrinaSun so if you have average 50 moves with 3 tps 50÷3=its 16sec

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  2 роки тому

      @@pesudion4149 but you’re not supposed to average 50 if it’s 2022
      Be like me and average less than 50

  • @flounder9175
    @flounder9175 2 роки тому

    Stop flexing

  • @JohnAJ-07
    @JohnAJ-07 2 місяці тому

    You are a total lie , you dont average sub 50 in move count

  • @Keule2
    @Keule2 Рік тому

    It's been said often enough that 3 tps to be sub is bullshit since no one averages 30 moves in an speedsolve. However you peaked my interest with your video title. So you got your view and even a comment on your video. Congrats. Gonna unsubscribe because I don't like that kind of click bait. Reminds me too much of Brody the Cuber.. Plus your other content doesn't interest me enough to stay. Have a nice day.

    • @BrinaSun
      @BrinaSun  Рік тому

      title should be 5 tps honestly
      well theres no reason to like me if you dont like brodythecuber so peace out