Suzuki V Strom 800 Comparison - Standard vs. DE - Cycle News

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • We ride both of the new Suzuki V Strom 800 models, the Standard and the DE, in a head-to-head comparison to find out which one is best for you. Stay tuned for pricing, specs, and to see which terrain is best for each bike.
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  • @CPUspeed
    @CPUspeed 3 місяці тому +17

    Great video. It’s fantastic when motorcycle manufacturers offer road and off-road models of their bikes. Ironically the road versions see little press but they’re the ones most people need. Thanks for showing some love to the street 800.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely! It's important to show off different models because everyone has different tastes and styles.

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому +9

    Only reason Suzuki didn't put cruise control on the 800 is because they put it on the 1050 V-Strom and for some reason Japan considers this a "premium feature" reserved to their top end models.

    • @SpeedingCop
      @SpeedingCop Місяць тому +3

      Unfortunately that kills the deal for me. I owned a BMW 1300 GS for 2 years, and I loved it. Only downside: It was too heavy, and I think it had too much power than necessary. Yes, power is always good, and I am not saying I did not enjoy it. But I did not really need it. Now, the same arguments are kind of valid for the 1050 V-Strom, hence I was eyeballing the V-Strom 800DE, because it seemed like a perfect fit for my desires. But as soon as I learned there is not cruise control, I lost all interest. Sorry, Suzuki. Not sure if I am willing cough up the money for a BMW F 900XR, which I also really liked when I drove it or not. If not, I will check back next year if Suzuki finally offers cruise control for the V-STrom 800. If so and I will have not bought the BMW yet, you can make a sale on me.

    • @FanOWater
      @FanOWater 11 днів тому +1

      A very bad decision in my view.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 11 днів тому

      Probably they'll add it after a few years, enough people crying out about it.

  • @jonwoodworker
    @jonwoodworker 3 місяці тому +6

    Suzuki hit a home run with the 800. Sadly people are led to believe the TAlp is better.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      That will make another great head-to-head test.

    • @sebbwebbo7557
      @sebbwebbo7557 3 місяці тому +2

      I test rode both and thought I would love the V-Strom 800 more - I nearly bought one without a test ride before.
      But honestly..I liked the Transalp way more.
      The motor of the TAlp sounds great with the stock exhaust - you can barely hear the Strom's Motor.
      The Strom has slightly more torque in low and mid range..but if you rev the Honda a bit, it works astonishing great.
      The TAlp feels better in the Twisties - just a bit nimbler.
      What I also liked more on my TA testride is the seating position. Both bikes are comfortable but on the TA you're sitting "in" the bike and not "on" the bike what I personally prefer.
      I don't really like the look of both bikes. The Strom is a bit ugly (that big exhaust does not make it better) and the TA looks boring with that CB500X headlight.
      The gear changes / transmission on the Honda worked a bit better for me than on the Strom.
      What also was a bit annoying on the Strom was the engine heat on the right leg.
      So..on paper (beside the weight), the Strom is the better bike for me.
      But after a testride, I would prefer the TA.
      I guess everyone is different - that's why testrides are so important.

    • @thodoris3790
      @thodoris3790 2 місяці тому

      I agree.also for an average high guy,transalp is better in handling.i am 5.10,i had many high bikes,but vstrom is too bulky,too wide to heavy.they say it has better suspention so its better off road,but,who will handle that mass off road?you must be over 6 feet.anyway,both bikes for their prices,are not something special.and vstrom is too ugly also

  • @robbarker1938
    @robbarker1938 13 днів тому +1

    A great review, very informative and professional approach, unlike some channels on UA-cam... thumbs-up to cycle news

  • @slavekkolman2622
    @slavekkolman2622 2 місяці тому +2

    Great comparism, but unlike as mentioned in titles 3:05 i guess that Standard version 800 has not 17in. wheels but 19" in front and tubeless. DE version has 21 + 17 with tubes.

  • @richard3803
    @richard3803 2 місяці тому +2

    The ONLY thing stopping me from buying the DE is the tubed tyres. At 70 years old the last thing I need is to be using tyre levers on a hard walled tyre in the Australian outback in summer. If tubeless tyres are good enough for Aprillia, BMW etc then should also be for Suzuki.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому +1

      Supermoto guys have been turning spoked wheels into tubeless with rim tape and sealant for a long time. I bet it could be done on this machine too.

  • @stoatsngroatsuk5012
    @stoatsngroatsuk5012 3 місяці тому +1

    I looked at the SE (RE in the UK), and bought the DE a week ago, and I love it, even though my off-road riding will be limited. The slightly larger height fitted me very well, and no cruise, minor vibes small screen and some heat makes zero difference to my riding needs - it’s just a fantastic bike.
    It’s no noticeably heavier than my old L4 650 Vstrom, it more power, more comfortable, and the QS is fun!
    Regarding the Vstrom/Pstrom concerns, c’mon, get over this, it makes no difference! Try it, I. Sure you’ll enjoy the ride! 😀🙏

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      Awesome! Enjoy the new ride.

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 3 місяці тому +1

    Just an FYI.
    There is a cruse control available. I put one on my KTM390ADV. A company that is putting out a quality kit.
    I would post the name but I am not trying to market stuff for them.
    Just help others.
    The name starts with the letter "V"
    It's up to you.
    I am thinking hard about the strom 800..
    Good vid.

    • @Xenogy1
      @Xenogy1 3 місяці тому +1

      Name also rhymes with “Veridian Cruise”.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому

      Blasted expensive too, and a slightly tacky switch pod.
      The V-Strom 1050 has cruise control standard, and Suzuki needs to migrate that to the 800. A switch pod and computer code. Done.

  • @emfl4437
    @emfl4437 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video, thanks for showing the comparison.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      No problem, thanks for the support! 👍

  • @gabrielkopp2036
    @gabrielkopp2036 3 місяці тому

    What the hell you talking about the de is no fun on the road???

    • @Sunesen
      @Sunesen 3 місяці тому +1

      I believe what he said was that the DE is not -as- fun as the standard version on the road. Huge difference.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      When comparing the two bikes the standard model is more geared for road riding, making it more fun to ride strictly on the road. The DE model is still a good time on the pavement, but it is obviously more off-road oriented.

    • @gabrielkopp2036
      @gabrielkopp2036 3 місяці тому

      @@cyclenews I have the de and it's a blast on the road. Also have the standard windscreen on my de and it makes a world of difference. Haven't taken of pavement much do to the stupid tire choice suzuki put on the de I do have 50/50 tire ready to go once the stockers are worn out

    • @ClemensSanta
      @ClemensSanta 2 місяці тому

      @@gabrielkopp2036 for me the standard windscreen is absolutely shit in every configuration.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому

      21 inch wheels and tires are going to slow turn-in and transition speed. Also with taller suspension, your CG is higher up which also makes transitions slower. If that translates to "fun" or not, that's entirely subjective and the reviewers should be skilled enough to nuance that when explaining the differences.

  • @murraytrimmer228
    @murraytrimmer228 3 місяці тому +2

    It is no longer a V twin, its a Parallel Twin. Should it not be a PT Strom?

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      Haha, that's good, Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

    • @Andreas_Cologne
      @Andreas_Cologne 2 місяці тому

      Suzuki didn't want to change the name. They say, V means Versatile.

    • @CGB65
      @CGB65 2 місяці тому

      I was thinking the same thing. P Strom. But I did take a RE version for a test drive. Fantastic motor and a very comfortable and capable motorcycle.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому

      Back in the years, "V" indeed represented the engine.
      Later models, Suzuki has changed that to "Versatile". There's a lot more to swapping model codes with international markets, corporate naming conventions, and brand history than you can imagine.

    • @suprlite
      @suprlite 17 днів тому

      Because Pee-strom sounds wierd 😅 like a stream of pee.

  • @quicksilv3r469
    @quicksilv3r469 3 місяці тому +2

    I sat on the 800 standard. Im about 6'1-6'2 and 200lbs. I never felt such an uncomfortable adv bike stock. It is made as a very budget adv for new riders. I have almost 120k miles on my 02 vstrom 1k.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  3 місяці тому

      What did you not like about it?

    • @quicksilv3r469
      @quicksilv3r469 3 місяці тому +1

      @@cyclenews suspension was too soft in the front and rear (adj preload also) egros has me more than cramped, bike would need risers/maybe even rearsets speaking for my personal comfort. The de in comparison feels solid in every fault that I mentioned.

    • @thodoris3790
      @thodoris3790 2 місяці тому +4

      dude,buy the de with the high seat.you ll be fine.or even better ,for a tall lad like you ,buy the 1050de,a bike for basketball players.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Місяць тому

      @@quicksilv3r469 What's your inseam? You're very much on the big-n-tall spectrum of most riders.

  • @jobyEN
    @jobyEN 3 місяці тому +1

    No cruise control, no dice! Sorry, Suzuki!

    • @stephenbarabas6286
      @stephenbarabas6286 3 місяці тому +7

      Time to strengthen up that limp wrist 😂

    • @john0270
      @john0270 3 місяці тому +1

      I disagree.... pick different roads if your using/wanting cruise contoll with this bike... or a different bike cause your riding roads dominated by cruiser/gold wing crowd.
      I own a 2024 800de unit and it's mint!

    • @emfl4437
      @emfl4437 3 місяці тому +3

      Veridian Cruise makes an aftermarket cruise control for the V-strom. Ordered mine and the company is making great install videos too.

    • @suprlite
      @suprlite 17 днів тому

      Its easy to get cruise control on it. The dealership might even throw it in to close the sale.

  • @F3udF1st
    @F3udF1st 3 місяці тому +2

    The non-DE's geometry looks wrong, this bike needs 21 inch wheels.

    • @mickleblade
      @mickleblade 2 місяці тому +3

      Why? It's a road bike. Road handling will be better, tubeless tyres, more tyre options etc

    • @ProphetAndLoss
      @ProphetAndLoss Місяць тому +1

      Lol, no. Road edition is fine with 19" front. I own one. I would not go off-road on it aside from sensible /easy gravel. It's a decent road adv.