Secret Strategy to Beat Aventurine with Free Characters | MoC 2.1 Floor 12 | Honkai: Star Rail

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  • Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
  • For this challenge, I will be using free characters (With Eidolons) + 4 star/Herta shop light cone
    The strategy is to use Dr.Ratio's huge c... , just kidding
    Retry: 261-105=156 (I was trying to brute forced the gamble, and I am glad I didn't win with RNG)
    Eidolons are not free, this is for entertainment purposes
    - Sushang - free from v1.3 event
    - Pela - free from v1.4 selector
    - Dr.Ratio - free from v1.6 to v2.1
    - Guinaifen - free from v2.0 selector
    - Hanya - free from v2.1 selector
    - Lynx - from completing the pure fiction mode
    E5 Lynx - Quid Pro Quo S5
    E2 Yukong - Past and Future S5 (normally I don't use YK with QQ)
    E6 Asta - Dance Dance Dance S4
    E6 Qingque - Cosmos Fell S4
    E6 Sushang - River Flows in Spring S4
    E6 March 7th - Texture of Memories S5
    E5 Pela - Resolution S5
    E0 Dr.Ratio - Only Silent Remains S3
    #honkaistarrail
    #memoryofchaos
    #崩坏星穹铁道
    #drratio
    #qingque
    #danheng
    #hanya
    #march7th
    #firemc
    #herta
    #asta
    #lynx
    #pela
    #serval
    #yukong
    #guinaifen
    #sushang
    00:00 First half - Phase 1
    02:30 First half - Phase 2
    06:05 Second half - Phase 1
    09:26 Second half - Phase 2
    16:48 Boss guide/builds
    BGM:
    Fair Play · Penacony Battle Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.0 OST
    • Fair Play · Penacony B...
    Frozen March · Cocolia Boss Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 1.0 OST
    • Frozen March · Cocolia...
    Challenge to the Reader · Penacony Battle Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.0 OST
    • Challenge to the Reade...
    Aventurine of Stratagems · Boss Theme (Extended) - Honkai: Star Rail 2.1 OST
    • Into the Yawning Chasm...
    Recorded with game bar
    Made with Microsoft Clipchamp
    All free software
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 139

  • @Helperishere
    @Helperishere 16 днів тому +242

    I wanna take this moment to wish everyone a great relic farm tomorrow. I hope you all get 2 rolls into crit rate and 3 rolls into crit dmg on every piece for your Acheron while also getting high rolls for SPD on every single piece of gear for you supports.

    • @monothecamel
      @monothecamel 16 днів тому +8

      I got defence percentage

    • @azure8433
      @azure8433 16 днів тому +5

      @@monothecamelRELATABLE 300% RATE UP

    • @asimplefanofmlp5234
      @asimplefanofmlp5234 15 днів тому

      good luck you too

    • @Idk_My_Name
      @Idk_My_Name 15 днів тому +1

      Thx u i might need it as i spent all my luck on thelema in HI3

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 15 днів тому

      @@Idk_My_Name I'll send some extra luck your way. I'll sacrifice an Aurumaton in your name.

  • @Mag_ott
    @Mag_ott 16 днів тому +142

    3:12 its yukong A1 passive, when her buff is active and a character acts she gains 2 energy, didn't know quinque rerolls counted but thinking about it, it makes sense since they are an extra action

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +38

      Thanks! I see, very interesting synergy

    • @RuriGoko
      @RuriGoko 11 днів тому +3

      @@WeiForeverconfirmed on this, qq draw counted as 1 action. So every draw is 2 energy for Yukong

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  10 днів тому +1

      @@RuriGoko Thanks mate for checking! 🥰

    • @maxdekudess3354
      @maxdekudess3354 10 днів тому +2

      ​@@RuriGokooh that's actually really nice to know

  • @Ronin8300
    @Ronin8300 15 днів тому +65

    Lol, maybe I'm an overgrown child. But I still can't help laughing at the "Doctor!, you're huugge!" reference.😂

  • @blueberrycrepes
    @blueberrycrepes 16 днів тому +21

    Huge Doctor. Hope this video gives me the relic luck I need for the 300% event
    They’re narrating aww I love that

  • @charastar_
    @charastar_ 16 днів тому +56

    THE DESCRIPTION 💀💀💀

    • @mememan7997
      @mememan7997 9 днів тому

      “Dr.Ratio’s huge c..” im dead 💀💀💀

  • @mukegumiim2837
    @mukegumiim2837 15 днів тому +15

    This is genuinely one of the best HSR channels and I thank youtube for recommending your videos to me every time you post. You're also the reason I keep trying MoC despite not having many characters in my account so kudos!

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +2

      Thanks for the kind words! We learn and get better as a community 😉

  • @antonteo4063
    @antonteo4063 16 днів тому +20

    love the editing with qq and ratio narrating!! great showcase

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +1

      Thank! Try to make my showcase more enjoyable

  • @richardariate3036
    @richardariate3036 16 днів тому +26

    Your luck is insane on QQ's follow up attacks

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +4

      Truly

    • @latenter1428571
      @latenter1428571 15 днів тому +7

      And March's freezes too! I tried her couple of times with 70% EHR, she didn't freeze once so I gave up

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      @@latenter1428571 the first freeze in phase 1 is good to have, but the second freeze is not needed as you can see Aventurine still frozen at the end

    • @VDTT5
      @VDTT5 12 днів тому

      @@latenter1428571 How´s that so, I have almost (less than you) EHR and mine freezes much.

    • @primarina
      @primarina 12 годин тому

      her freeze is fixed at 65% ​@@latenter1428571

  • @WeiForever
    @WeiForever  16 днів тому +12

    The strategy may apply to other two-phase bosses, but more testing need to be done to draw a conclusion. Lost so many times just to realize that we already had the answer. Hopefully this explains any question you may have when fighting Aventurine
    Succeeded case:
    - WyattSkyy
    ua-cam.com/video/yd2KOvabnP0/v-deo.htmlsi=zFk-WEsrUZKrRVkf
    - Ruri Goko
    ua-cam.com/video/Qa5DoRvhV0E/v-deo.htmlsi=wBe9-seTK2dDYt8G
    - MVI
    ua-cam.com/video/37DJES7985c/v-deo.htmlsi=akLv64LYb7A7om1I
    Failed case:
    - Wei (what a shame to do showcase like that)
    ua-cam.com/video/ktu1Al-w7SM/v-deo.htmlsi=dVHpB4tSF67opgvD
    - Mocchi
    ua-cam.com/video/1FpaAXZ3p-M/v-deo.htmlsi=8wdQAwxmBTGKa84O

  • @paradozx
    @paradozx 16 днів тому +27

    Those follow ups from the gremlin, I swear I see one per battle if lucky.

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +8

      The power of gremlin, I would say I can get a 3 cycles within 30 mins retry. I have done it 3 times, the problem was the second half

    • @oussamaalaoui9121
      @oussamaalaoui9121 13 днів тому

      You need to use her skill many times

  • @TheGeekyRedMage
    @TheGeekyRedMage 15 днів тому +3

    Some very smart plays and strategies here. This was a lot of fun to watch!
    Honestly, this shows why I enjoy the turn order mechanic this game has because of how you can deceptively manipulate it.

  • @lanadelteenstan3639
    @lanadelteenstan3639 16 днів тому

    Ah lovely showcase as always 🥰

  • @charcoalmilk
    @charcoalmilk 14 днів тому +3

    ended him with the power of HUGE C--halk

  • @Phiro00
    @Phiro00 15 днів тому

    Amazing showcase!

  • @thinhngoc3341
    @thinhngoc3341 16 днів тому

    so useful and informative, lovit

  • @NewMega252
    @NewMega252 12 днів тому

    Every time I see Yukong and March on teams it makes me wanna start working on them lol been trying to plan out a 2nd team with them and think I found a setup for it but it's hella cursed lol. Always great to watch your showcases to see unique ways of beating stages and also get to see units that not many others actually use

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  12 днів тому

      Anytime! 😉I learned new things as well from the community

  • @lol-ot7ng
    @lol-ot7ng 16 днів тому +30

    babe wake up weiforever just posted

  • @SifuEdward
    @SifuEdward 15 днів тому

    God damn it. How impressive!

  • @yiyunzhuo5991
    @yiyunzhuo5991 13 днів тому

    Havent finished this video yet, but I used a similar team on first half and when Im watching you I thought, this is 100 percent a lucky run haha and because I had to reset a couple times to get 4 turns on first half. First few times i tried, qq just wouldn't get her FUA!
    Also happy to see the 'Day the cosmos fell' in use! i just upgraded it recently for Herta in PF and I used it on my QQ. Pretty solid 🎉

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  12 днів тому

      Day the cosmos fell is a good investment! And for the first half, yes I had to do some retries on the FUA, at least for the first wave. The second half isn't matter that much because of MoC damage (45%, that's half of Cocolia's hp)

  • @harudesu2402
    @harudesu2402 9 днів тому

    dahek.. your lightcones are insane

  • @rikito99
    @rikito99 4 дні тому

    What a power move to end battle with Dr Ratio huge C-
    chalk

  • @Mocchi-
    @Mocchi- 16 днів тому

    Uh oh! Upon watching this I learned I was one of the ones who didn't break Aventurine between his actions :O! I think it was because I was one cycle down so I didn't want to waste turbulence. this is very good knowledge to have though Mr. Wei, It's nice to see how much actions can change from pushing phases at different times 🤯

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      Yes, same for my 4 star clear, we had a harder time and I didn't know why, I am sure we can do better with this concept in mind 😉

  • @faeliya1423
    @faeliya1423 15 днів тому

    remembering his high Imaginary res, this is impressive

  • @RPGWaldorf
    @RPGWaldorf 15 днів тому +1

    Incredible trick with phase 2 Aventurine! I hope I can pull it off eventually...

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому

      Good luck! Practices make perfect 😉

  • @crerperv20
    @crerperv20 15 днів тому +1

    That is insane! But I have a question, on the last bet, wouldn't it be better to use pela's ult before ratio's skill to maximize the probability of getting a follow up and making it possible to win the vet with ratio?. In the end it didn't make any difference, but just to know if there is a specific reason to do that way

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +2

      you are right... I should do that for sure, but even losing the gamba is ok. And for some reason the dice would still show 60% when Dr.Ratio attacks, I am not sure if it's bug or what

    • @jurajojo2543
      @jurajojo2543 15 днів тому

      I don't think you can apply debuffs to the dice, unfortunately. (Albeit channel owner says 60% when I'd expect 40% but I still haven't learnt Dr. Ratio's kit very well as a Daniel haver.)

  • @mateomontali3876
    @mateomontali3876 15 днів тому

    Both clears were clean af

  • @ctran1955
    @ctran1955 15 днів тому +2

    i feel so smooth brain. i have decent teams and builds but i cant get 12 cleared in under 10 cycles. i cannot find any guides for moc, like there are for genshin abysses. i just want to even make sure im understanding the turbulence (i dont think i do, sometimes the stacks sits at 6 and does nothing? unless im misreading it) i think this video is interesting but entirely not feasible for me to follow personally.

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      This video may help: ua-cam.com/video/sJVjHSWN3Tk/v-deo.htmlsi=zx1Aw7lvOE3dbYWF

    • @ctran1955
      @ctran1955 15 днів тому

      @@WeiForever thank you for the rec! I didn’t find it that helpful since it just gives a broad overview and I think I need more help than that unfortunately. I’ve just been bashing my head against the wall hoping I’ll get lucky. I’ve been able to get to 19 cycles left and I’m so close but so far

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +2

      ​@@ctran1955 me too when I did my run praying I get lucky on the gamble, but I was wrong. You will need to breakdown the moc to 4 parts (first half wave one/two, second half wave one/two), then you would need to think which part can be improved on. For example, I forced my first half wave one to finish in 1 cycle.

  • @nonnonnon120
    @nonnonnon120 16 днів тому

    Thank you very much. I will try it. Another 30 days should pass.😂

  • @maxdekudess3354
    @maxdekudess3354 10 днів тому +1

    The emotional support sushang is real 😂😂

  • @DiogoVKersting
    @DiogoVKersting 14 днів тому +1

    This MoC is kicking my ass. I've spent many hours on it, and the best I've done is 18 cycles.

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  14 днів тому +1

      Good luck! Make sure to stack 6 times per cycle for 15% dmg

  • @crullydebtch1042
    @crullydebtch1042 16 днів тому

    I was a bit surprised that we almost have the same line up in second half. Pela, march, luka, dr. Ratio was my team, my luka is built as a BE unit so he deals good dmg to enemies with phys weakness, my only problem is i cant clear the first half fast enough

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому

      I would say Luka break on the ascended one would be key, and make sure to trigger MoC buff, I used 2 cycles there as well with my team

  • @kouseigi3448
    @kouseigi3448 15 днів тому

    This just proves that I suck at the game lmao, even with 5 stars and sig lightcone I'm not able to 20 cycle it
    Great video!

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      Thanks! Practices make perfect 😉Hope it can help you clear it!

    • @kouseigi3448
      @kouseigi3448 15 днів тому

      @@WeiForever Ok, lemme correct, I can 20 cycle, but My Fu Xuan always dies on first half lmao

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      @@kouseigi3448 That's good! Guard set on Fuxuan maybe? 😅

    • @kouseigi3448
      @kouseigi3448 15 днів тому

      @@WeiForever already on it, 2 guard and 2 HP, thinking of maybe get her traces higher, she's on 8 but it seems I'll have to 10 them

    • @zubaedhossain4015
      @zubaedhossain4015 10 днів тому

      ​@@kouseigi3448 since you already 20cycled it just focus on having your characters survive. Maybe two sustainers? Just chip away and dont worry about anything bit surviving.

  • @georgebeard2337
    @georgebeard2337 5 днів тому

    Qingque survived dino with 69 hp. Sasuga Gamba girl

  • @DerillPlays
    @DerillPlays День тому

    A video that I thought I don't need.

  • @throwaway4533
    @throwaway4533 16 днів тому +1

    Nice, to actually put to practice what you see👍

  • @MinatozakiMiyawaki
    @MinatozakiMiyawaki 14 днів тому

    Consistent E4… how I wish my qq would😍

  • @danha3107
    @danha3107 16 днів тому

    just making sure i understand the guide, we need to finish phase 1 aventurine while he’s in the middle of his double action to delay the phase 2 gamble?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +2

      Correct, you have to do a killing blow between his actions, 15% from MoC is the most reliable one for me, you can plan ahead and activate it by using ult/counter attack

  • @Freakattaker
    @Freakattaker 15 днів тому

    Can I do this with hybrid or crit DPS Sushang? Or would you recommend I do break if I have relics for it?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  14 днів тому +1

      Break for sure, she is extremely good with Silver wolf, Ryan Mei/Pela. Crit build would work too and she needs Tingyun, and it costs more to get the relics and traces up

    • @Freakattaker
      @Freakattaker 14 днів тому

      @@WeiForever I'm thinking of playing JY hyper on the First Half and Blade, Sushang, Pela, M7 on Second Half; I have a hybrid build on my Sushang rn so I should switch to any break pieces I can get right? I have Bronya, Sparkle, RM and dunno how to slot them so that I can clear this MoC rn
      Thanks for replying!

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  14 днів тому +1

      @@Freakattaker for first half, I would try JY, Sparkle/Tingyun, Ruan Mei, and Lynx. Second half may need some practices on breaking due to March’s counter

  • @Falcon36957
    @Falcon36957 14 днів тому +1

    New player here already beaten him on second try 🤩

  • @wobblestone3148
    @wobblestone3148 13 днів тому

    God damn how is your QQ getting so many double throws
    Also at the end why is Lynx with break effect rope

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  13 днів тому +1

      It did take some retries to get 2-3 double throws for the shield breaking, break with Lynx can delay enemy even longer, it does seems like Lynx doesn't need energy rope so BE works too but not needed

    • @wobblestone3148
      @wobblestone3148 12 днів тому

      @@WeiForever got it, I think er rope is better to keep team alive

  • @DrakeKT
    @DrakeKT 11 годин тому

    I need some explanation here, we have the same builds on every single character with very similar stats, there's only 2 differences. My Sushang build it's an hybrid BE, 54 - 126 with 128 BE and my Dr. Ratio has 60 - 171 but with the quantum set.
    Now, this moc 12 it's pretty impossible for me, I ended up with 12-15 cycle and I tried with Ruan Mei, Kafka and black swan nothing.
    I really need help here because I can't figure it out wtf is happening to my dmg lol

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  9 годин тому +1

      For Sushang, mine has high spd which is easier for her to break. For Dr.Ratio, I would suggest 70+ crit without a crit rate lc.
      For first half, you would try not to get hit by the trash mobs, they push you back in the cycle.
      For second half, you need character that can win gamble
      Important thing is to hit at least 6 times per cycle, you can save your ult to the next cycle sometimes
      Team1: Dr.Ratio, Lynx/Gallagher, HMC, Guinaifen (4 cycle)
      Team2: Kafka, March7, B swan, Ruan Mei (5-6 cycle)
      Key would be Guinaifen ult on the trash mobs, March7 shield Kafka

    • @DrakeKT
      @DrakeKT 3 години тому

      @@WeiForever Sounds good man I'll try, because I even made an attempt with your set up and the difference was insane.
      As I said, I can't even win with 15 cycle remain, I used Misha with Ruan Mei, Pela and March but it was useless and I don't understand why I don't deal dmg.
      Anyway, thanks for your tips!
      Oh and I have everyone with more than 140 spd just a couple of characters have 136 or 138

  • @jurajojo2543
    @jurajojo2543 15 днів тому

    Idk if this matters or helps anyone, but I personally always tried to break the purple dino after it took its action. (Believing that it stays broken the longest that way)

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  14 днів тому

      Yes, thanks for sharing! The purple Dino is quite hard to deal with

  • @dubstepgs9784
    @dubstepgs9784 15 днів тому

    Does 4p Pioneer amount to more damage instead of 2p FUA with 2p Musketeer/DoT ?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      Good question, I don't know either. It depends on the team, I would say Pioneer set is better by ~5%, not worth if you already have good 2+2

  • @whatdadogdoin8417
    @whatdadogdoin8417 13 днів тому

    Guys i need help.
    Which eidolon should i get e1 welt, e2 bronya, e1 himeko, or e1 clara?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  12 днів тому

      I think the best option is to wait, the only thing I know about them is e2 welt is good

  • @slothion
    @slothion 12 днів тому

    question, is there a reason why you dont use sushang skill on weakness broken enemies?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  12 днів тому +1

      During my retries, I noticed that Sushang will have her ult up by wave 2 with just basic atk. You are right, normally I would skill with Sushang for more energy

  • @chessterstone
    @chessterstone 15 днів тому

    Wei, you’re huge!

  • @cangkudugaming3977
    @cangkudugaming3977 11 днів тому

    The hack dude e4 QQ always active 😂😂

  • @kepalakutu
    @kepalakutu 15 днів тому

    The number of retry must be around ............
    ............

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому +1

      I added to the description 😉

  • @Weji514
    @Weji514 15 днів тому

    i gonna kms repetfully (i cleared in 8 cycles with full 5 star team) (only aventurin)

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому

      I cleared it barely, it can go to 8 cycles easily

  • @arigatiu
    @arigatiu 15 днів тому

    Why is Qingque so 😄

  • @reincarnatedtobuildaharem
    @reincarnatedtobuildaharem 14 днів тому

    So sushang was just there for the emergency phys break?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  14 днів тому

      Yes, it's planned break with Sushang (Break damage + Bleed DoTs), it's great for enemy with a lot of HP

    • @reincarnatedtobuildaharem
      @reincarnatedtobuildaharem 14 днів тому

      @@WeiForever smart actually, I just overpowered him with yanqing.

  • @itooruturosaki4834
    @itooruturosaki4834 11 днів тому

    Wtf QQ 6 times win 40℅, bro so lucky 😂

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  11 днів тому

      I got blessed by the aeon of gamble

  • @ForeverHobbit
    @ForeverHobbit 15 днів тому

    i don't understand why he only took 1 action tho

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому

      Short answer would be the game thinks he already went once and should only move 1 more time there

    • @kennethyoung7457
      @kennethyoung7457 15 днів тому +1

      He was interuptted by MOC dmg that took the first health bar to 0. March 7th followup attack activated MOC buff.

    • @ForeverHobbit
      @ForeverHobbit 15 днів тому

      @@kennethyoung7457 i see

  • @lonewolf1928
    @lonewolf1928 16 днів тому +2

    ...why not just use Herta?

    • @blueberrycrepes
      @blueberrycrepes 16 днів тому

      Against a single target boss like Aventurine?

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +1

      I tried, she performed similar to Dr. Ratio for Aventurine because no follow-up. Also Dr.Ratio is way faster for the IPC leader

    • @lonewolf1928
      @lonewolf1928 16 днів тому

      why not just do Sus hypercarry then? i think Hanya was also free, but i might be trippin lmao

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  16 днів тому +1

      @@lonewolf1928 Sushang is more of a single target physical focused character, I would say it’s possible to work with the help of the turbulence dmg on the IPC. But my traces are lvl2 and lvl4

  • @smole6562
    @smole6562 6 днів тому

    3k shield???????????????

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  3 дні тому

      4 piece def set gives extra shield 😉

  • @JR_Zart
    @JR_Zart 15 днів тому

    Skill issue on my behalf😂

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  15 днів тому

      play more is the key 😉

  • @wenbodou
    @wenbodou 11 днів тому

    i accidentally pulled off the sekrit strat using march's followup attack lol ua-cam.com/video/RQuLDmqJioA/v-deo.html

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  11 днів тому

      that 1695 counter dmg is insane 😍

  • @Yeetuz.Deletuz
    @Yeetuz.Deletuz 15 днів тому

    Mf sushang break effect

  • @omaewamoshindeiru9208
    @omaewamoshindeiru9208 13 днів тому

    Is qingque and yukong worth to build at e0 I don’t have a lot of Character 🥹

    • @WeiForever
      @WeiForever  12 днів тому

      For Qingque, probably wait until e4 and play her with Sparkle/Hanya. Yukong no unless she is e6, Tingyun, Pela, Asta, Hanya are better 4 stars

    • @omaewamoshindeiru9208
      @omaewamoshindeiru9208 11 днів тому

      @@WeiForever Thank you 🙏🏻