Villar Perosa 1915
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The Villar Perosa, the first submachine gun, was named after the plant in Italy where it was made. It was invented by Captain Abiel Revelli and patented on 8 April 1914. It had unprecedented characteristics for the time, combining the frightening rate of fire of machine guns with the ability to be moved like a light weapon. It could be transported by a foot soldier, mounted on a bike and even on an aeroplane.
The VP consists of two independent guns bolted together. Each gun can fire at 1,500 rounds per minute, but as they were fitted with a 25-round magazine, all would be discharged in one second. The gun fired a 9mm Gliscenti round, - having the same dimensions of a Luger Parabellum but less power. The sights can be adjusted in 100m steps out to 500m, but I wonder if the bullet could reach that far!
The tactical use of this new type of weapon took some time to be developed. Initially it had a heavy steel shield, which was discarded in favour of a bipod or even a wooden stock. In this animation it is also mounted on a Voisin 3 light bomber. During the early days of the War, the 9mm round could be quite effective against the lightweight aircraft of the time. However as the War progressed it was outclassed and replaced by more powerful guns, such as the Fiat-Revelli rifle-calibre machine gun. The VP was phased out in 1917. Animation created using Cinema 4D. Music credits are shown at the end of the movie.
Reference:
PISTOLA MITRAGLIATRICE PER CARTUCCE REGOLAMENTARI DELLA PISTOLA MODELLO 1910
COSTRUITA DALLE OFFICINE DI VILLAR PEROSA
www.scribd.com/document/54140718/Pistola-Mitragliatrice-Per-Cartucce-Regolamentari-Della-Pistola-Modello-1910-Villar-Perosa-1916
A weapon quite ahead of its time. And the rate of fire was blisteringly fast
The mark of the Expert, take a complex situation and explain it clearly and simply. Thank you for your efforts. Always intresting and worth watching.
I'm glad the bois are wearing goggles for safety. Great as always.
In real life They are not wearing goggles for safety, they are wearing them because they are in a airplane! no windshield the wind in their eyes thus drying them out.
Dallas Stack isnt it the same that the bois are wearing goggles?
EKIP
why is that so funny:)
@@AceRichness yep thats called basicly safety but its good to be sayd
Italians created some very unique and original machine gun designs before WW2. Would be interesting to see a video on the Breda M30 light machine gun.
Forgotten weapons has a video on it, you may want to check it out!
0:16 Imagine you’re in a dogfight with that and your pilot makes a sharp turn.
A negative G turn, not much of a problem, but a positive G turn however...
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
This thing is nuts
WOW! Really smart design, and basically "self powering" by the recoil & spring, and few moving parts with low complexity. Great!
It seems that submachine guns really didn't change much in design until after WWII from their very beginning. At a glance I could easily mistake this gun's bolt for a KP 31 Suomi's.
I wouldn't exactly classify this as a submachine gun
Unfortunately in World War II the Italians tried to use this as a light machine gun
With predictable results
@@andrewmoore7022italian turn this in to smg later in the war, 1 of this become 2 smg. Check barretta 1918 and ovp 1918
Stunning work as usual. And thanks for having shown the shield. You can't really understand the role of the round spacer with the hole sight, if you don't see that the spacer was part of the shield, and the sight was the only hole in the shield.
Nicely done. I really appreciate the hours that went into these animations.
Much appreciated!
*War were declared*
great italian gun in alpine war against austria.
1200-1500 rounds/min per barrel. That's fast. Yes, it fired a pistol cartridge so it is a "submachine gun".
Simply & Clever mechanism
Couldn't get much simpler, tube, barrel and sear.
Open bolt elegance!!
Imagine the rate of fire if there wasn't the slight delay caused by the breach rotating bit.
Not exactly a lock, it's purpose was to make sure the firing pin would drop only with the bolt fully forward.
Awesome video! The "Minute of Mae" from today made me curious!
same I was amazed by it. plus mae helps
Such a delightfully simple fun. A good old spring needle in a tube.
Wow, how interesting! This is just great! I had never seen such a weapon before, although I am very fond of it. Where does the author of these videos get the drawings and the necessary information?
This is the firs mashinegun
Riccardo Avanzi no it’s not
@@riccardoavanzi6543 It isn't, but it can be considered one of the first Sub Machine Gun
Hopefully from hands on experience
I still remember that time when I was first seen how to change the barrel of Mg42 Machinegun,it is make me shocked ,I have read lot of millitary magazine and I thought I have already know some thing about it ,but the fact is ,lot of details knowledge are difficult to explain by picture and article,but by the 3d animation video that will super easy to understand that,how amazing work those weapon designer did ,and thanks for your amazing work Sir,really expecting to see more~
Nice video
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Interesting. It is more complicated than I thought. Separate firing pin and inclined surfaces in the lock.
Great stuff as always , thank you.
I just love your animations!
Exceptional stuff Rob, you outdid yourself yet again.
9 mm at 500 metres. Yes, very effective. And accurate...
Imagine flying around in WWI where .303 British, 30-06 American, and 8mm Mauser BELT fed machine gun armed planes are roaming the skies... and you're given a 9mm PISTOL round weapon with a pair of awkward 30 round clips to defend your aircraft from them.
Not the option I would have gone with... but God Bless those Italians for being "Special".
Very nice!
Thanks, it means a lot from you. Rob
@@vbbsmyt -- please, create model of "Mauser MG-213C / BK-27" -- this is best mono-barrel revolver mashine-gun
THANKS
Oh… i though they both went at once, now I see the safety prevents that.
Crazy to think that Air Forces used to be guys in wooden planes with spraying wildly using only iron sights.
very nice
Wow amazing O:
Great work, as always!
Interesting! There are two different magazine latches
Hi amazing video can i ask you some info about villar perosa?i want to built one for reenacting scene
That ONE time where a bulky, high capacity drum mag would be useful and they use normal mags...
yee, you're right
Superb!
interesting gun
italians realy know how to design iron sights :D
Why didn't they make it single gun, add a handle then issue it to troops as a sort of early SMG?
Que mecanismos fantástico.
I'm wondering if open bolt guns had low recoil
*A sentry kit is available near your location*
I love VILLAR PAROSA
Have you thought about making Spandau in Gotha G. IV?
if its bipod was more stable or if it had a grip, it probably would have had a bigger impact on small automatic arms
High rate of fire in a cost of reload speed
I love your videos
Your videos are so awesome. Did you can make a video for twins 5inch guns please? thay was secondarys to U.S battleships like USS IOWA USS MISSOURI and more
I will admit that I can't watch your videos anymore without hearing Othais from C&Rsenal narrating everything.
I can't watch any WWI videos without hearing his voice
Ah yes, the first smg.
It seems that the lock turns few degrees before the cartridge is fired. Is there a friction delayed blowback like the Blish lock in Thompson gun?
Futuristico
Hmmmm,how will I make it in airsoft mode ?
I'm still finding
I have a feeling this might have been partially made for C&Rsenal
Very good 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍
Holy shit , never thought I would stumble on a channel like this. What about ZB.26 , sir ? Quality , but not well known gun sadly
Can you make a video about the Hall carabine 1836?
Why wasn't the villar perosa used as a singular gun that could be handheld?
Chuck. The Villa-Pedrosa fired a 9mm parabellum cartridge. This was adequate during the early years of WW1, but soon became obsolete - it lacked penetration power. However, by July 1917, the gun was fitted with a wooden stock and used by infantrymen. It is arguably the first ‘submachine gun’ ever built. A large number fell into German hands and this prompted them to develop their own submachine gun - the MP18,1.
@@vbbsmyt do you have any links to videos about this as I find this topic very interesting
Beretta did. It's called the Beretta Model 1918.
The pilot be going, my ears, my fuc3*7@ ears!
Would this system be considered a locked breach?
Later on, individual guns would be fitted with a stock and issued as carbines.
That mount looks like it would shower the pilot in hot brass. How was that resolved? Was the ejection angle such that it wouldn't actually hit him?
Jack: Pilot had a leather flying helmet. Plus the 100 knot wind would help blow the empty cases to rear. Pure speculation of course.
the Italians almost had an SMG in 1915
It took us "only" 1 year to figure out that just one gun mounted on a stock could be more useful (called OVP) and another 1-2 to think of slowering the fire rate to 900 rpm and refining the all weapon in something less crude and presto you have the Beretta MAB-18, fielded before the MP-18
Ive seen slings for this gun so they could fire it from the hip so yeah very close to a submachinegun
@@XMarkxyz 1918 minus 1915 isn't 1 year...
@@pacman10182 I'm referring to the OVP (or Villar Perosa mod. 18) which designing started in 1916 by the same inventor of the Villar Perosa; don't know why the model has 18 in the name, I guess large scale production started later; two year later (1918) Beretta started working on the Mab 18
@@pacman10182
WWI was the first truly modern conflict, it was hard for armies to understand the capabilities of modern weapon systems, the italians initially fazed out the Villar-Perosa because it started loosing purpose when aircrafts started becoming more resilient and engagements happened higher in the sky and at higher speeds, rendering a pistol caliber impractical
Then a request for a light automatic weapon came up and Officine Villar-Perosa came up with repurposing their guns, Beretta as far as I know just started by zero with their MAB1918.
Impressively simple compared to Fiat-Revelli and Perino!
But I wonder why would they make firing pins THAT thick in their rear, woulnd't making the actual bolts massive be just as good and give and opportunity for an easier firing pins manufacturing?
Curious why was it made the way it was.
It looks to me like the firing pin had to be wide enough so the recoil spring would push it instead of pushing the bolt. That way, when the bolt reached the end of its travel, the firing pin could continue to move forward, acting as an out of battery safety. Additionally, the wedge on the back of the pin would make the bolt rotate into battery, so recoil would have to work against the friction of the angled surfaces of where the back of the charging handle touches the receiver (which is why the front part of the channel in the receiver is angled down slightly). That’s just my observation, it might be complete nonsense, and I could be completely wrong.
Watching the video again, it looks like the back of the wide part of the firing pin is hollow to allow space for the recoil spring guide. Edit: And the recoil spring itself.
@@egirlharasser49 Ah, this makes sense.
I was just remembering MP18,I which had similarly massive (albeit a differently shaped) bolt, in it the recoil spring also pushed onto the base of the firing ping and it would transfer the push onto the bolt body itself, but MP18,I's pin was much smaller.
But it as well lacked both delay mechanism and out-of-battery safety too, which Villar-Perosa does have in form of one simple part on the side of the bolt.
Due to the geometry of the bolt, in the few first mm of rearward travel of the bolt face, the firing pin travels rearward at double the speed. To accelerate something at double the speed in the same time, you need four time the energy, so every gram of weight in the firing pin saves four grams of weight in the bolt, to have the same delay in the opening of the action. Nowadays is called "radial delayed blowback" and, when CMMG revived it in 2017 it seemed like a great innovation. Really it's the system used by the first SMG in history.
cmmginc.com/9-arc/
wait there is no extra barrel for gas?
Откуда ты берешь чертежи?
Ciao, realizzi dei video molto istruttivi, poi fare il video del funzionamento e regolazioni della maxim 1911 italiana? Se hai un email ti giro foto
le distanze sull' alzo di puntamento sono messe in senso inverso : 500 m la più alta fino a 100 m la più bassa
I think you are confusing front and rear sights. The adjustable, notched, sight is the FRONT sight. The rear sight is at the rear of the gun. I suggest you read the manual to see that my animation is correct.
www.scribd.com/document/54140718/Pistola-Mitragliatrice-Per-Cartucce-Regolamentari-Della-Pistola-Modello-1910-Villar-Perosa-1916
where did u get the 3d model?
Can I get dimension? Sir
mg 42 vs Villar perosa hmm it's a semi tie mg 42 has more ammo but jams if it's hold too long Villar perosa is just bringing mg 42 in WW1 with less ammo
Do a video on interrupter gear
Binary: This video shows how the Constantinesco-Colley synchronsing gear works on a WW1 aircraft. ua-cam.com/video/8Oh1pLl1--Y/v-deo.html Check out my other vbbsmyt videos. Rob
How to goes Bbrrrrrrtttt Before A-10 warthog
コレを空の上で弾倉変えるんかー
大変やの
which tool do you use for creating this video?
Cinema 4D
I need this for my front door maybe in 22 magnum
Imagine if they designed it so it could take a belt
It's still a 9 mm
Too heavy for a submachine gun and too light to be effective as a light machine gun
@@jamesricker3997 still thought even if it was 9mm that would still be a giant scythe to anyone it happened to be pointed at
Rate of fire: 1500 rpm
Ammo supply: two 25 round magazines
It's like they built a Ferrari but the fuel tank only holds 1 quart of gas.
In the early days of the War, aircraft were flimsy and underpowered and mostly used for scouting/observation. To attack another aircraft that would be evading meant that the gunner had it in his sights for only a second or two, so a very high rate of fire was a distinct advantage, and the pilot could pull away to give the gunner time reload another magazine. Also, that was about all they had in 1914 and early 1915.
@@vbbsmyt I know. Same principle today with the Vulcan or the GAU-8.
Also back then manufacturers and inventors tried out a lot and not everything worked as planned. As far as I know, the Villar Perosa also was used by infantry in some cases.
Faster ww1 machine gun
Fastest*
@@xxxuselesspricksxxx1481 English hard speak
Great video's, but please balance the firing sound so I don't wake the wife up.
You Can make a erma EMP
review of villar Perosa: ua-cam.com/video/NAsH0fVAoxc/v-deo.html
shooting video: ua-cam.com/video/WLFA8VXVkRQ/v-deo.html
What piece of music did you use?
Music details are at the end of the video.
I still don't understand how the gun was so complexity to operate.
Also, how the gun can fire such a high rate of fire when fire 9mm Giliseni?
There's no complexity in either operation or the structure itself, it's a closed bolt system with somewhat of a locking mechanism, which allows for lighter prings and bolt, which in itself are the two reasons this gun fires at about 2000 RPM.
But I feel that's very sorry for using 25 rounds box magazines as such a high rate.
@@leekaijit36
Small caliber drum magazines are often unreliable and not exactly simple to either produce or design, the italians dealed with this using stick box mags, plus you have to think about the role of these guns as Observer weapons, you don't want drums cluddering your space in your aircraft, the last thing you want is slip on a drum while swapping mags while a couple of kilometres above the ground.
@@CaptainGrief66
I see...
@@leekaijit36
It makes sense if you use context, these guns and their fighters were meant for rapid hit and run attacks, get near the enemy plane, unload 50 rounds at the pilot and go away
Works pretty well
Semi-free bolt ？
Today it's called "radial delayed blowback".
SMG M1918
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What this animation doesn't show is the bloody awful kick back of the bipod making the gun so inaccurate as to be unusable.
Look at this. The first submachine gun ever. And us italians created it. YOU HEARD ME RIGHT GERMANS, *US ITALIANS MADE THE SMG, NOT YOU. SCREW YOUR MP18, THE SUBMACHINEGUN IS ITALIAN*
very bad gun, frog )
@@aboba5995 who you callin frog? I ain't a fr*nch
@@Momo_Kawashima Technically you're right, *macaroni* frog, it's not Italian stereotype, so big pardon from my brain ((
Anyway, the Italian flag is green (1/3), and the French are a relative of the Italians by Romance language group.
@@aboba5995 the french are kinda more of related just by language. They're basically half gauls and half romans. Basically they're the snotty cousins we smile with in front of others, but when alone we bash each other with a shoe
But the mp18 was the first mp that were build successfully in mass production
Fantastic design but useless outside of its intended role.
I'm pretty sure that other than piercing holes through human beings, it can be a pretty good bottle opener.
nice now i can make the airsoft version so i could get one of those rtx 4000 series
A-10 warthog of WW1