This is the Hardest SNK Boss of all Time...
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2023
- With the advent of the Boss Challenge mode in KOF XV, a lot of people were excited to get bosses on the same level as the classic Neo Geo quarter pinchers. Rugal was criticized for being too easy, but how does Goenitz fare?
Well, in short I never want to play a video game ever again.
#goenitz #kof #snk #kingoffighters
"How does he deal with the zoner?"
*gets in immediately
😂😂
I’m sorry is whip not a zoner?
Iirc I think he was talking about King
Proceeds to Grab super
Goenitz: "THATS how."
I had him down 3/4 of his life on my last character. Bastard hit me with a 22 hit chain for 90% life. My kid looks at me like, "I thought you knew how to play this game?"
💀💀💀
I'd tell your son that the AI cheats
oof your son hit you with that tag team combo
Tell him that this boss was made for the best players. He can be beaten without exploits but, he is brutal.
Oof your kid hit you with a combo you can’t comeback from
I just realized, a taunt earns him a whole bar
He also can do supers with no bars just like 96
@@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543 yep. Also can open up with his command grab super just because
Igual Las barras son peligrosas por las posibilidades de combos
he's a DMC character wtf 💀💀💀💀
@@jgnu right and those jojo posing he do
Rugal was at least honest in some moments. This dude? Completely insane
This IS LEOPOLD GEONITZ
Y'all wanted hard bosses.. here you go lol
@@pank3245 i never asked for this
Rugal was boring asf. I beat him with Ryo before he became really good. It took me 3 tries to beat him. But at least he matched his strength like he did in the lore.
they had to make a boss that made rugal look easy
It makes sense Goenitz is harder than Mr. SNK Boss Syndrome "Rugal"
In-lore, he's the one who gave Rugal the Orochi power and why he only has one eye, and keep in mind, Goenitz was just a young adult then.
It was Goenitz who plucked out Rugal's eyes.
He was a fresh 18 year old I believe...
it took me 240 minutes to cheese this....bastard with Isla and Clark. They definitely said something like: "So, Rugal was too easy for you? Now try this"
AND THERE'S NO CHIN TO TRIVIALIZE HIM!
Hey, it's just faithful to the original Goenitz fight; nigh-impossible legitimately, but you can cheese him with a character!
You can also win legitimately, but you have to react really fast.
My win was like that.
@@minimilianoacts I have seen it done
The original Goenitz wasn't so hard, at least in my experience. The trick was surprisingly easy: take characters with good movility and air strong kick and sweep of good reach both (Leona, Kim...) and keep jumping with kick and sweeping him, trying not to fall behind him if he dashes forward, because then he would Yamidoukoku you (grab you with the DM).
@@minimiliano Yeah, I beat him normally too, but he definitely had that oldschool 90's challenge I've wanted again for years.
I’m actually glad this is harder. Makes players feel like they’re in the fight of their life
Koku desu ka jokes are not a meme they're a trauma response.
Hahaha
Facts
Finally a boss that hits harder then my dad on a saturday morning..
Tbh, to beat classic Goenitz in KoF 96, you also had to cheese him with Chin
or spam Kaiser Wave until the end of time
Or with short jump C+D and a D sweep
@@Chadfill8348 I go with this one.
The bad news, Chin isn't in this game
Players: Dude Rugal is easy AF, SNK bosses are not hard anymore.
SNK :hmm well see about that :)
He builds meter fast and he can do meterless supers.
Yep, that's classic coin-eating SNK Boss Syndrom alright!
And he also spamming his supers like it ain’t shit like a motherfucker even when he doesn’t have any meters
No. That's classic coin-eatig Goenitz Boss Syndrom. Right in KoF'96, his first appearance he could do the Yamidoukoku (the grab DM) without any meter. And nowaday SNK decided to keep it to its roots to our despair.
@@davidnoimporta7668 you just repeated what I already stated.
I was able to beat him in just 8 attempts, you just suck, bro,
Let’s not forget the fact that he has a boss exclusive taunt that grants him meter.
Good gawd, this game made me hate him, in a good way. I eventually beat him. SNK did good
9:03 Goenitz does a super with 0 Meter. I'm cutting off the game
Yes, but that's how he was in KOF 96 xD
@@xGunbladeKnightx and 98 UM
I actually ended up getting luck with my initial team of Heidern/Shingo/Vanessa, and then again with Ash/Leona/Rock. There were some key things that I noticed where it makes it easier to get hits on him.
-His level ones, command grab included, are beatable with charge reversals on reaction. Leona, Heidern, and Ash can turtle and get consistent damage against those, his overhead, and jump-ins.
-He gets hit with projectiles about 50% of the time, and faster ones can punish his turning multislash.
-At the end of blocking his rekka, you can punish with most characters' standing HP, leading to a pretty standard combo. I was able to get pretty consistent HP => f.LP => Special => Lvl 1 => Lvl 3 with Rock and Vanessa.
-Raw level 3 will actually work a lot of the times if you input it during the screen freeze. You can anticipate it because he goes for his command grab super after his command dash most of the time.
-That unblockable super eats your health, but you can get out of his range for it most of the time if you roll backwards as soon as it starts. The projectile afterwards can always be rolled through, just make sure you roll forwards. It goes fast enough to where you actually have a pretty good sized window.
He's definitely a hard boss, but I don't think he's quite as insurmountable as a lot of people initially thought. In the event that you change your mind and come back to him, I hope you have fun!
In Japanese his name is indeed pronounced Geh-nitz, but the "oe" spelling suggests that the dev might have intended for that part to represent the German "oe" (or ö), which is also always transliterated as an "eh" sound in Japanese
From what I have seen in my poor attempts against him:
He has unlimited meter like he does in KOF96.
He uses less projectiles attacks like he did in KOF98 UM.
His special moves have some priority or are invincible.
Has a vaccum super that is unblockable and can be dodge when it is thrown.
His AI is more of a combo rushdown fiend.
THANK YOU SNK!
The vacuum super being his "Boss super" obviously and if you avoid the vacuum but block the followup... youre eating a guaranteed guard break
My theory is that rugal being released in XV was *merely* the warning for what was coming up
*goenitz*
Finally GONUTZ TIME
"What a lame boss, Rugal it's very easy, please make a real boss rage fight" and the Devs took that comments personally xD
SNK: Be careful what you wish for :)
You can tell that with the outcry that Rugal didnt feel as unfair as he normally is in KoF that SNK were like, "Very well then we'll make the next boss challenge like how we used to do it back in the old days! As hard and unfair as you want it!"
This guy took rugals eye out like candy 🍬
People needed a reminder who the fuck SNK IS! 😂
SNK reminding people what it is like to fight a god!God!
13:20 is what I'm here for 🤣🤣🤣
Goenitz in the kof story smashed Rugal easily so its just normal to feel he's this hard
Rugal matches his own skill level in this game since he is the weakest boss in the lore
Snk: oh you think rugal was easy( open the gate of snk boss syndrome that was seal in kof xi) you want a hard boss i give you a hard boss
5:12 A 40 hit combo & over 60% damage
SNK boss syndrome
"Be careful what you asked for" ~ Yasuyuki Oda (I'm assuming 😂)
Forcing people to resort to cheese strats gotta be the most satisfying resolution SNK expected from this LMAO
I eventually beat him after like 50 tries with Shermie, Clark, and Rugal. I basically figured out that he doesn't like command grabs, and then Rugal full-screen punishes all of his ranged attacks with his Level 1 super. Took a while, but it felt REALLY good when I finally beat him.
3:00 "This is King of Fighters. Not Street Fighter"
Comparing the two games just makes me want Capcom vs SNK 3 even more.😁😁😁
KoF players: Rugal's too easy! Why is the wind picking up
Flawless... Kof96 style
He ended up earning 50 cents in ad revenue
Looks like SNK heard complains about bosses difficulty
I know your name is John Sex but Goenitz was the one doing the F*****G here 😂
Hahaha
meanwhile you got him in 7 tries lmao. maybe i should pass the torch
@@JohnSexDD lol don’t feel so bad it took EVO world Champion Xiaohai 17 times. i just got lucky
It makes perfect sense that Goenitz is harder than Omega Rugal. Goenitz was the one who took Rugal's eye
Now he took Rugal Ai
It took me 40+ tries to win legitimately
Congrats
First off.... Sorry you had to suffer through that.
Also, I have to admit that this is great. It would seem that SNK was insulted when people complained that O.Rugal was too easy, and took that as a challenge.
I used Heidern, Leona and Shermie...and cheesed the fact he loves to use jump ins so I could score free hits with their V Slasher specials...but sometimes he won't do that and do other things that I won by the skin of my teeth with Shermie had a magic pixel of life and he jsut knock me down...luckily he tried to approach me on wake up to try and poke me...luckily he can't win against a command grab, so one Ex Command Grab into a low kick follow up and I won...yeah never playing that again
That character it’s beyond broken ! Snk fix that it’s extremely hardest 😂😂 I can’t even bread or see where to start 😂😂😂
A huge THANK YOU dude for this vidéo . I was Raging at this boss and i dis it like you ton beat it
Goenitz: *GIVE ME YOUR QUARTERS*
8:35 and the funny thing is that even if you actually drive impact him, you would lose because of your remaining health
O
M
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XD
27 years ago, he effortlessly destroyed me & my friends and PTSD remains to this day!
Don't feel bad man, I had to cheese him too. But it was no where near as easy at that. I learned he doesn't move when you charge Kyo s punch. So I had to somehow get his health low enough with just enough gauge to do five charge punches
I'm impressed how you didn't said anything about Goenitz doing his speciais with 0 bars.
Seriously, this mode is brilliant, best boss ever
Geonitz is a pretty powerful character lore wise so its definitely making sense
If the game will bring Bosses in order the next one will be Orochi, and he should be easier. Although if they are gonna follow the story, the next one will be Krizalid(hopefully).
Orochi should be harder, not easier.
Krizalid is the start of the NEST saga so orochi will come first but definitely will be the next one
What if they give Orochi Magaki's AI?
@@blastmole299😐
Bring Krizalid, Orochi is boring.
"This is the Hardest SNK Boss of all Time..."
Not even close.
I managed to beat him in around 2 hours worth of tries , I couldnt beat magaki at all
Now all they have to do is make the trials harder and we are back in business boys!
SNK Boss team, "They're beating Goenitz? Looks like we gotta try harder."
he's just being a bit silly 😔
As someone who probably contributed 10 cents worth of views to your channel, here is my 10 cents worth of opinion: the fact that Iori & Leona don't have their riot forms in boss challenge yet is a missed opportunity. Also they should buff Rugal's AI to match this energy.
Also don't jump in, use your hops man.
I beat him with Haohmaru, Terry and Rugal and again with Haoh, Terry and King. I played defense the entire time. Wasn't foolproof but he hates DP's and Supers that hit low.
I guess I'll try again sometime using lots of DPs. He did seem to fall for power geyser a few times
@@JohnSexDD did ya beat him yet?
I couldnt find a way to win for awhile but eventually found iori/rugal/rock could win for me. If you space him out about one jump lengths away and use light fireball he jumps at you about 90% of the time and you can dp it for free damage. I just would loop it for as long as i could until he died
Absolutely loved the commentary while fighting Goenitz😂😂😂Exactly my reactions when trying to beat him. Finally won with K’, Kim, Maxima.
Thank you snk for content for me to enjoy 😊
When i booted it up and saw his intro and he hit me with that "The time for confession has passed". I knew i was in trouble. 5 hours later, still havent beaten him🤣
To be honest, I did find a way to "cheese" him, but it was an honest cheese, armored command grabs on react/read will help a ton (any grappler with armored grabs, personally really liked Clarks), being defensive and knowing when/how to slip a sweep, some crouching jabs or a dp (almost any character can do this one), and leaving a character with fullscreen supers in last while saving the 5 bars for them (both Maxima and Rugal work fine, one is mid risk mid reward, the other is high risk high reward, personally went for Rugal), and well, just use them to counter his moves in order to get as much "free" (you still need to make the reads and react) damage, took me about 1 hour and a half to get to this after trying with around 15 different characters and strats, once I got the right team, knew what and how to do it, it was a first try with a perfect with the last character and one extra bar of super, it is definitely "fair" if you invest the time and know enough about the roster, so yeah... I loved it, hope the next one (If there's a next one) has a similar difficulty, ALSO almost forgot to mention, he has an "alternative" version of himself when he wears the red outfit, where... he's kind of even harder to beat and is a lot more rushdown focused, how much he uses his zoner tools depend completely on the character you choose, he will most likely zone you if you pick a zoner, because he can easily outzone you, you can try this using Athena or Ash, they get kokudeska to death (sometimes hitting triple tornados at once)
The big invincible jumping slash can be punished if you block it, as well as the 2nd hit of his rekka on block
7:14 Instant Guard Crush
After Goenitz, Orochi himself will be the next boss challenge.
We have the Orochi team Yashiro, Shermie & Chris. We have Omega Rugal, & know Goenitz the four heavenly Kings of Orochi
0:36 Go Nuts?
OH
*HE WILL!*
To escape the big succ super backdash 1-2 times depending on distance, 3 if you are close but its dangerous then roll through the tornado, be careful tho, he can mix the speed of the final tornado from delay start to immediately just flying out the gate, so you have to react to that
man, i just noticed how hot this version of goenitz is compared to the previous versions, this has to be fan service, why the hell is he so... majestic... pretty... detailed...
it took an entire evening, but i manage to beat him with Geese only. For Xst sake... he's insane..
"Man, i won, but i ddin't beat him!"
I'm glad that SNK did justice to Goenitz. I hope they do the same if they include Krizalid or Igniz in the future.
I think Igniz is good where he is
I loved it lol I hope the rest are like this especially orochi
As he should be.
For the whirlwind super, if you are far away from him, just wait for him to launch the tornado at you, and dodge. But if you're like sweep distance..... good luck.
People complain about how easy boss rugal is. Now they make this shit to satisfy buyer. What a good brand they are 😂😂
HE IS BACK. MR. KOKO DESUKA
I won without that cheese.
I used Three Sacred Treasures Team.
I just developed counterplay to everyone of his moves.
I passed Geonitz! How much joy and pleasure! Two days of sweating and swearing.
I chose Terry first and beat ←↙↓ HK + ↓↘→HK. If the first part of the bundle was successful, it is better to retreat. If the first part went to the block, the second part will just get a counter strike, since the boss will want to hit you.
The second one I chose was Isla. Did a jump ←← ↓↘→ HK. Against this technique, the bos fell, and then started a whirlwind. Then I struck again, continuing the same way (but the boss can start virtuoso, then as lucky).
The third is Omega Scolded, finished off with a super ↓↘→ ↓↘→ HP+HK.
Man, I´ve always been a casual Fighting Games player, and O. Rugal was a Challenge for me (like 8 or 10 times to defeat him), but this is just ridiculous.
I understand that the FGC thought that Rugal was easier than before, they are more competitive and have more experience, but this take the level of 1 to 10 between them.
This time Goetniz is more hardest than I play kof 96 Boss Goetniz when i play that year
I love what they did with the man xD
I'd love them them to make even cheaper version, because he is acttually manageable once you learn him. I want a super cheap cheesie version xD
Now I want them to update Rugal up to that level of unfair.
P.S. 96' Goenitz wasn't really a zoning monster people for some reason remember him to be. He was zoning you and was able to combo you with his windshields, but his cheapness came from ridiculous range super grab that he would use on you all the time from rolls, dashes, teleports, on wake and even as you close in to hit him.
I don't understand why people keep jumping on this game, it's KOF, there's no guard when you jump
I beat Omega Rugal and this guy back to back... haven't played much of 15 since it came out, but have some extensive experience with older KoF games at a mid player level... had not played the game since the Rugal update but never attempted the actual Boss Challenge. Rugal took me about less than 10 fights with B.Jenet, Yamazaki & Sylvie... the team I want to play with long term since Sylvie's release & the cross play patch dropping.
Goenitz tho... took me like 2 hours of malding. My saving grace was Yamazaki's counter, you can sort of get him on a counter hitting loop if you time it right on every single one of his wake ups, don't do it too early because Goenitz will input read you and sit in front of you until the end of your animation to destroy you... also the tornado from a far super you can partially block it and guard cancel roll past it for almost no damage, or just time react roll through it when he sends it out which can vary the timing when Goenitz CPU decides to throw it at you... or I noticed just 2-3 different timings. Well... did it, and never went back. I was thinking of switching teams or look up a strat but stuck to it because of stubbornness and because I started noticing the Yamazaki counter strat working.
The definition of Boss Syndrome😂
Interesting Name Sire
I somehow managed to cheese him using Terry, Ryo last night. (in my youtube) That was super lucky though
Gay nits, Happy pride
Thank you John Sex, very cool.
After losing 50 times straight, I gave up lol.
Command grab characters work in the corner
Divine Punishment 😂
"I'M FUCKING FOCUSING NOW"
*a few moments later*
"...Did I say I was focusing?"
Just wait til they bring back Orochi/Murochi I know he’s a pain in the ass with his ranged attacks
"Coco des car....😮coco des car"😮
7:15 This is when you know things are going to be bs when a single attack is a guaranteed guard break
94' Rugal has joined the chat.
Welcoming the modern era to the bosses the older generation dealt with.
you cheesed..... and then cried
I beat him in a little over 10 tries using grapplers, I lucked out, dealt most damage with Maxima and O.Yashiro, he has a couple of gaps on the AI against them, didn't know or try the Isla method it's much more effective than what I did.
oh look guys it level 8 Goenitz from KOF96 in KOFXV. remember when Rugal was easily beaten in KOF94, 95 and 98 with Ralf's back hand those were the days.
Saa... Kami ni inori nasai!!!
The only time you can hit him with a combo mostly is during his over head.😅 but I cheese him with kyo and rugal