On a serious note, thank you! Been agonizing over whether to build something with kroxa or klothys. Really hoping to see your take on klothys gruul sometime. Keep up the great work!
Respect the grind lvd. You put out consistent, thorough magic content like 5 days a week. Thats a looooooot of work and i super appreciate it! Ty!!!!!! 🖤
I happen to only have 2x kroxa and 2x rix, so I've pulled in 4x spawn. I think I'd go to 3x rix, 3x kroxa, 3x vicious rumour to slot in 3x spawn. 22 lands should still support the more expensive curve.
My favorite card from Eldraine(Stormfist Crusader) with my favorite from Theros(Kroxa!), I'll have to try this out for sure. Maybe slot in a few Spawn Of Mayhems since i don't have all the cards in the deck, unfortunately. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! This video was a pleasure to watch! What deck do you find the most satisfying to play in current standard? What deck do you play in a ladder of arena?
Ha nice! Made a Jund deck yesterday with the same principle but a lot more direct damage spells. Experimental Frenzy+Dryad is sweet, Kroxa is the icing on the cake:) Nice games man!
@@uucue Hey, yeah there it is Deck 4 Experimental Frenzy (GRN) 99 2 Forest (M20) 277 4 Shock (M20) 160 4 Chandra's Pyrohelix (WAR) 120 4 Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (THB) 169 4 Omen of the Forge (THB) 145 4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115 4 Skewer the Critics (RNA) 115 4 Mountain (THB) 285 4 Electrostatic Field (GRN) 97 4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259 2 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244 2 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244 4 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245 4 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger (THB) 221 4 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253 2 Swamp (THB) 283 Please note it is not highly polished deck so you lose a lot against top tier decks but when it gets going it is a lot of fun!
Super newb here! When trying to trigger a "Spectacle" do you have to target your opponent specifically or will it trigger if you target anything he or she controls as well? Like a creature. Thanks!
I tried out a very similar burn deck when the set first came out. What do you think of using Fruit of Tizerus in place of Vicious Rumors? It's a repeatable black shock. Escape rate isn't great but the graveyard is usually pretty full to give you that late game reach
Why are you not activating Spear Spewer at the end of opponent's turn each time? It just goes unused for that round, right? BTW love everything else! Oops..just saw EACH player, that probably has something to do with it.
Love Vicious Rumors, my fav bad card. Used it a lot on the past, against better judgement (and better cards) It works nicely against scry top, sadly all the graveyard interacitons right now made it worse. Still,, as a Spectable enabler does its job.
I crafted this deck since I only needed to use 3 wildcards for Kroxa (and I didn't mind since I think it's a neat creature), but I'm having problems since I loose almost every game. One thing I did notice tho, it's for some really extrange reason I keep drawing lands (and it shouldn't be a problem since the deck is running only 22 of those). Any golden rule I should follow? (I'm guessing on using the revelers only with spectacle enabled, otherwise you run out of steam really fast).
Opening hand should really have a Reveler, Crusader or Light Up. Keep Shock and Rumors in hand if you need them for Spectacle. If Reveler is your only card draw, try to Spectacle it. Wait as long as possible on Light Up. Spear Spewer is your 1-drop of choice, Crusader is your 2-drop of choice. These are just a few guidelines.
Elspeth's Nightmare? It's a sweet deck but it has 8 weak cards (weak as in "not played in anything else"): Rumors and Spewer. How can they be replaced?
When you are the aggro and ahead on board, why not activate Spear Skewer EOT? Is there something besides the life loss for you that I am missing? Thinking of the situations in the first Heliod game
Mono white usually have a lot of evasive creature, and don't have a lot of removal. Having the health total high makes it harder for the white deck to steal the game.
The lifegain deck can potentially gain a lot of life, so the value of 1 damage is changed somewhat. Once I felt like we were far enough ahead it seemed fine, the threshold was just a bit further in the matchup.
@LegenVD can u make a Discard/Hand Disruption deck with "The Haunt of Hightower" ? I tried lot of thing and doesnt work very well but i love that card ♥
Just curious....do you always show us the good or near to perfection games you have with the decks? some decks of yours I tested I got crushed which I never see in your videos. No offense at all you are a amazing Player and channel is amazing since Years....Just curious and YES i know legen is the way better Player then myself but i am not that bad and well experiemced in MTG so not all losses can be argued with my misplays 😁
I feel like thats often the case also with other lets players. Like rarely playin against mono red cavalcade, simic flash and other often seen decks in standard. Still i feel like this rakdos deck can work great
Watch his stream for the complete experience. And you could also try following MTG Jeff and Merchant, who get crushed quite often (particularly poor Jeff) and dont have any qualms about uploading the footage.
“Who didn’t discard a nonland card”. Is there any reason to print it like this instead of just saying “who discarded a land card”? Like it just seems unnecessarily wordy
The way you suggested the opponent only takes damage when they actually discard a land. As written, they also take damage when they fail to discard at all due to having an empty hand or being unable to discard for whatever reason, like them having a WAR Tamiyo out.
The deck looks interesting but for me it did pretty bad. Getting a 20% win rate at best. The problem is that with all the graveyard shenanigans nowadays you generally don't wanna make your opponent discard anything. Most of matches I was just feeding my opponent's escape mechanics. I also had to mulligan most of the time because of 1 or 0 land opening hands. Maybe 1 card could be cut to add a 23rd land? Anyway thanks for making all these videos.
Uro is the only escape card that is seeing heavy play, although it is quit good vs our deck as it pretty much cancels out Kroxa. About the opening hands it's probably just a small sample and some bad variance.
It's a somewhat competitive deck. I don't get why you never take these decks of YT to standard ranked. Don't be afraid man, most of them got potential!
I somewhat disagree with using the temples. No double devotion on any cards, so the mana base should mostly be consistent, and tap lands on such a cheap deck seem more of a disadvantage.
Not only is Kroxa double black double red to escape, you want to be casting multiple spells per turn as seen in the video. Needing 2 or 3 of a colour one turn and 2 or 3 of the other the next doesn't seem uncommon. Temples are pretty handy.
What do you think is being whispered in the art of Vicious Rumors?
"This is what will happen to magic lore in a few years' time."
"Simic Ascendancy is jaaaaank."
"Ashiok isn't gonna show up in the WAR novelization"
"you going blind every time you are shocked makes everyone super uncomfortable"
"looking for magickards?"
On a serious note, thank you! Been agonizing over whether to build something with kroxa or klothys. Really hoping to see your take on klothys gruul sometime. Keep up the great work!
Do I hear Gruul burn?
This deck reminds of the Grixis burn you played back in Duels. Amazing brew, Luca!
I still have his Blue/Black cycling deck built in duels! 'LegenVD Cycle'
"For science." made me laugh out loud
i usualy hate burn decks but this one is just awesome. tried it and won 8/10 games...thx for your content mate
I dont play anymore, but you videos help me scratch that itch. Love them, thanks for the constant, quality uploads.
Also dont play, but I can not deny myself the pleasure of watching this channel - sometimes its pure art :)
Respect the grind lvd. You put out consistent, thorough magic content like 5 days a week. Thats a looooooot of work and i super appreciate it! Ty!!!!!! 🖤
Thanks LVD! You're amazing for a new player to watch and learn
One of the SMARTEST mtg players! I love your content
Burn is always my favorite archetype, but this Burn + Discard combo looks extra satisfying against control decks.Thanks again LVD.
FINALLY I knew this would be an archetype
Looks fun! My favourite two colour combination in magic doing something refreshing, with all the lifegain in the format. Cheers!
Your content has helped my game a lot. May have to hit you up on Patreon. Also MTG has really helped my son's chess game. Go figure.
Problem solving skills are general!
"For science"
I cracked up so hard
Great job man. Cool deck. Not what I expected
Hi LegenVD.
Can you make some options for the sideboard in the next videos?
Thanks for sharing!! Really enjoy playing this deck!
Your commentary is superb!
More awesome games! Thanks for the entertainment you make work much more enjoyable
This deck is really damn cool! Gonna have to steal it.
How do you feel about Spawn of Mayhem. While it's 4cmc, it'll usually be 3 here, and serves well as a 4/4 flyer and spectacle enabler
Waseem Quraishi what would you drop from this deck in favor of it?
I think it could be a good additional but it would make it less control-ish
I happen to only have 2x kroxa and 2x rix, so I've pulled in 4x spawn. I think I'd go to 3x rix, 3x kroxa, 3x vicious rumour to slot in 3x spawn. 22 lands should still support the more expensive curve.
Yeah, I'm going Spawn while I don't have all Kroxas too. Maybe not the best, but synergistic enough and blocks pesky flyers.
My favorite card from Eldraine(Stormfist Crusader) with my favorite from Theros(Kroxa!), I'll have to try this out for sure.
Maybe slot in a few Spawn Of Mayhems since i don't have all the cards in the deck, unfortunately.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks! This video was a pleasure to watch! What deck do you find the most satisfying to play in current standard? What deck do you play in a ladder of arena?
YEsS! That's what i was trying to make this patch! Thank you very much
Ha nice! Made a Jund deck yesterday with the same principle but a lot more direct damage spells. Experimental Frenzy+Dryad is sweet, Kroxa is the icing on the cake:) Nice games man!
Oo, that sounds sweet. Would you mind sharing your list?
@@uucue Hey, yeah there it is
Deck
4 Experimental Frenzy (GRN) 99
2 Forest (M20) 277
4 Shock (M20) 160
4 Chandra's Pyrohelix (WAR) 120
4 Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (THB) 169
4 Omen of the Forge (THB) 145
4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
4 Skewer the Critics (RNA) 115
4 Mountain (THB) 285
4 Electrostatic Field (GRN) 97
4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
2 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244
2 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
4 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245
4 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger (THB) 221
4 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
2 Swamp (THB) 283
Please note it is not highly polished deck so you lose a lot against top tier decks but when it gets going it is a lot of fun!
Very nice Kroxa deck! Of course the first time I tried it I ran into someone with T3 Klothys who ate my Kroxas.
Super newb here! When trying to trigger a "Spectacle" do you have to target your opponent specifically or will it trigger if you target anything he or she controls as well? Like a creature. Thanks!
It has to be your opponent because spectacle only works when you damage your opponent
@@lincolntitus5528 Thanks!!
Pharikas libation could be a good replacement for rampage to deal with the gods
Any good ideas for a side on this one?
I tried out a very similar burn deck when the set first came out. What do you think of using Fruit of Tizerus in place of Vicious Rumors? It's a repeatable black shock. Escape rate isn't great but the graveyard is usually pretty full to give you that late game reach
I talk about it in the video.
@@LegenVD Not sure how I missed that. thanks!
Why are you not activating Spear Spewer at the end of opponent's turn each time? It just goes unused for that round, right? BTW love everything else!
Oops..just saw EACH player, that probably has something to do with it.
28:30 "trigger Kroxa..." well opponent was kinda triggered there too
Love Vicious Rumors, my fav bad card. Used it a lot on the past, against better judgement (and better cards) It works nicely against scry top, sadly all the graveyard interacitons right now made it worse. Still,, as a Spectable enabler does its job.
Wow this deck is a tempo deck. Nice brew!
I crafted this deck since I only needed to use 3 wildcards for Kroxa (and I didn't mind since I think it's a neat creature), but I'm having problems since I loose almost every game. One thing I did notice tho, it's for some really extrange reason I keep drawing lands (and it shouldn't be a problem since the deck is running only 22 of those). Any golden rule I should follow? (I'm guessing on using the revelers only with spectacle enabled, otherwise you run out of steam really fast).
Opening hand should really have a Reveler, Crusader or Light Up. Keep Shock and Rumors in hand if you need them for Spectacle. If Reveler is your only card draw, try to Spectacle it. Wait as long as possible on Light Up. Spear Spewer is your 1-drop of choice, Crusader is your 2-drop of choice. These are just a few guidelines.
Thats an amazing deck ill try it , thank you !!!
Great video!
Elspeth's Nightmare?
It's a sweet deck but it has 8 weak cards (weak as in "not played in anything else"): Rumors and Spewer. How can they be replaced?
34:15 they scryd 2 to the top maybe vicious rumours would've been worth it but who knows
thank mr lvd
38:36 what in the world would make the auto tapper tap the blood crypt before the mountain? this doesnt make ANY sense...
Yeah, it caught me by surprise.
Realized something nice about this deck, Lurrus slots right in as companion.
Nice with raveler :D
tho put in omen of forge for lurrus :D
And dreadhorde butcher :D oooh i love it
I think Carnage/Carnival could be a great addition to this deck :)
I would like it a lot more if it killed Gilded Goose, but it's definitely a consideration.
I found it to be quite useful against monored and monowhite, both have a lot of x/1s :) Great Deck, I love it!
Could see put in it Torbrand in some way, since all the damage sources are red.
This is the good stuff, i hope you can give this a Bo3 shake
When you are the aggro and ahead on board, why not activate Spear Skewer EOT? Is there something besides the life loss for you that I am missing? Thinking of the situations in the first Heliod game
Mono white usually have a lot of evasive creature, and don't have a lot of removal. Having the health total high makes it harder for the white deck to steal the game.
The lifegain deck can potentially gain a lot of life, so the value of 1 damage is changed somewhat. Once I felt like we were far enough ahead it seemed fine, the threshold was just a bit further in the matchup.
1:25 "looking at the curve it may not seem cheap..." nah this deck curves out at 2; welcome to standard
@LegenVD can u make a Discard/Hand Disruption deck with "The Haunt of Hightower" ? I tried lot of thing and doesnt work very well but i love that card ♥
I knew staying up till 4 am would be worth it
what about a Risk Factor? and 2 less lands?
I played Risk Factor originally but it ended up being cut.
I wish to see this deck perform in ranked play or standard event before I craft it.
Pretty bad for me, but it's quite fun when it performs well, thats not the case most of times anyway
Just curious....do you always show us the good or near to perfection games you have with the decks? some decks of yours I tested I got crushed which I never see in your videos. No offense at all you are a amazing Player and channel is amazing since Years....Just curious and YES i know legen is the way better Player then myself but i am not that bad and well experiemced in MTG so not all losses can be argued with my misplays 😁
I feel like thats often the case also with other lets players. Like rarely playin against mono red cavalcade, simic flash and other often seen decks in standard.
Still i feel like this rakdos deck can work great
He streams plenty where you can catch all his games and he generally does very well with his decks.
Watch his stream for the complete experience. And you could also try following MTG Jeff and Merchant, who get crushed quite often (particularly poor Jeff) and dont have any qualms about uploading the footage.
@@Teukro Jep no fan of merchant, But Jeff is great, thats why I like him because he shows the fails as well
How about a BO3 version of this sweet deck. Tried it last night quick and went 9/9, sweet brew
You should play spawn of mayhem in this deck
You never encounter a mono red, very weird
Ill-gotten inheritance enables spectacle every turn
Badass deck ;)
Cant wait to play this if I only had 4 kroxas
“Who didn’t discard a nonland card”. Is there any reason to print it like this instead of just saying “who discarded a land card”? Like it just seems unnecessarily wordy
In case of no discard cause of empty hand i assume.
The way you suggested the opponent only takes damage when they actually discard a land. As written, they also take damage when they fail to discard at all due to having an empty hand or being unable to discard for whatever reason, like them having a WAR Tamiyo out.
This was so confusing for my magic group today. After reading it out loud a few times we finally figured it out.
The deck looks interesting but for me it did pretty bad. Getting a 20% win rate at best. The problem is that with all the graveyard shenanigans nowadays you generally don't wanna make your opponent discard anything. Most of matches I was just feeding my opponent's escape mechanics.
I also had to mulligan most of the time because of 1 or 0 land opening hands. Maybe 1 card could be cut to add a 23rd land? Anyway thanks for making all these videos.
Uro is the only escape card that is seeing heavy play, although it is quit good vs our deck as it pretty much cancels out Kroxa. About the opening hands it's probably just a small sample and some bad variance.
It's a somewhat competitive deck. I don't get why you never take these decks of YT to standard ranked. Don't be afraid man, most of them got potential!
Why dont you play ranked? :O
For science!
I somewhat disagree with using the temples. No double devotion on any cards, so the mana base should mostly be consistent, and tap lands on such a cheap deck seem more of a disadvantage.
Kroxa disagrees.
Not only is Kroxa double black double red to escape, you want to be casting multiple spells per turn as seen in the video. Needing 2 or 3 of a colour one turn and 2 or 3 of the other the next doesn't seem uncommon. Temples are pretty handy.
For SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
first
10 minutes talking about the deck seems excessive imo
yea, discard-deck. tru pro deck. to ruin the match of every player. this shit decks gets an extra long rope from me lol