Some comments that i have about some of the changes: The VAL and LAPA buffs were nice, but it still doesn't solve the problems those guns have; the low bullet velocity for both guns and the harsh recoil magnitude change on the full auto VAL. It's honestly ridiculous that faster firing ARs and SMGs like the FFAR and CX9 could have better bullet velocity than these two, and easier recoil in the case of the full auto VAL. The M13s reload buff wasn't really necessary but I'm fine with it. Though they should've given it to other guns such as Type 25 which has more penalising magazines than the M13 The 47 headshot multiplier buff should've gone to the Man-O-War. Right now the MOW is on a tight spot where it's simply too slow compared to the other 3 shot ARs, while having damage potentials that aren't that much better. A 1.5x headshot multiplier buff would have allowed the MOW to 3 shot in it's second range with just 1 headshot, while it's not that consistent it still is something. The Grau nerf is lacking but it's expected, with it having a mythic skin now and replacing the CBR as the favourite gun for people who wants to win fights with barely any effort. The AGR, J3, and Renetti buff felt like it was there just so they could say "Hey don't worry we didn't forget about this gun". Also when talking about guns that have ammo conversions, should've probably displayed builds for both versions of the gun.
Everything you said is spot on. I would add that this is the first time the agr gets a buff without selling a legendary or battle pass model, so it's meant to be meaningless and to show people it's not necessary to look after it, I'm not sure why the devs hate some guns soo much. They spent like four seasons straight giving the 3 tap rifles massive buffs, but they didn't touch the man o war, maybe they really hate certain guns. The type is meant to suck because it has been "mythic obsoleted" by the m13, just like the bk57 with kilo 141 and m4lmg with holger.
AR meta is actually goood not thst broken. All AR almost perform the same with just a little difference just like how grau, m13, ffar, kilo, kn44, lk24. Plus it's not that annoying unlike a shotgun and smg broken meta which is OP.
@@tycharius gotcha, by the way, did you guys manage to gather any data before you decided to cancel the idea of making the video about said LMG? If that is the case, I'd appreciate any BR-related info like ttk and how it compares to other LMGs there. I believe cat guy (I don't know what his/her Discord username is so I always refer to him/her that way) stated it is an upper tier LMG in BR but I'd like to know why besides what I know (better than average bullet speed, maximum spread, mag size capacity and bullet impact). I am looking forward to hearing from you guys :)
I consider the j358 SP to be an assassin weapon. Shooting someone headon wont reward you as often with a 1 shot kill, meanwhile a sneak attack from behind will make some funny clips since nothing stops you from getting those 1 shots now that chest is available.
M13 >> grau Grau only has better ttk , hipfire and walking speed M13 has better everything else Personally speaking grau is not really amazing. Its 4 shot being 19 m - 25 m depending on your range boost is frankly abysmal And near 280 ms ttk after 20 m due to bv isnt much help to it. M13 has the bonus of fire rate compensating missed shots better as well
@@ferdinandotitoju9486 Grau is also easier to use than kilo 141 But kilo is better than every way and by far So I don't get how recoil outweighs m13's 6-8 stats in which it's better And heavy long m13 is even easier to use than grau with lower recoil,flinch and first damage range being 34 meters Grau's is 21 m
Grau has much better handling than m13. M13 kicks much harder and may need an attachment to keep in in check. Grau simply has a brain dead recoil pattern that anyone can learn and people tend to lean to simple recoil. The point is to not miss at all (or as little as possible) and it doesnt matter if you have high fire rate if you cant even land any of the shots. Its something to consider on a broad spectrum of weapons that actual see popular use
Semi auto AS VAL has the mobility of an smg, literally 6.6 sprint and 4.0 strafe. i tested it and i felt like headshots were slightly easier to get (in most fps projectile speed weapons have large balls for hitboxes instead of little bullets). but performance at crossmapping moving targets was harder. i was getting 30+ kill games with it so Id say its very good, much better than expected.
@@ArgusXII I mean, aim shake does make recoil control harder, which is quite harmful for a gun that is supossed to specialize in long range. I hope this buff makes it more viable for BR and mp.
1:26 That Teabag tho😂
yeah that guy was farming kills in that area. i thought about giving a taste of lead.
Some comments that i have about some of the changes:
The VAL and LAPA buffs were nice, but it still doesn't solve the problems those guns have; the low bullet velocity for both guns and the harsh recoil magnitude change on the full auto VAL. It's honestly ridiculous that faster firing ARs and SMGs like the FFAR and CX9 could have better bullet velocity than these two, and easier recoil in the case of the full auto VAL.
The M13s reload buff wasn't really necessary but I'm fine with it. Though they should've given it to other guns such as Type 25 which has more penalising magazines than the M13
The 47 headshot multiplier buff should've gone to the Man-O-War. Right now the MOW is on a tight spot where it's simply too slow compared to the other 3 shot ARs, while having damage potentials that aren't that much better. A 1.5x headshot multiplier buff would have allowed the MOW to 3 shot in it's second range with just 1 headshot, while it's not that consistent it still is something.
The Grau nerf is lacking but it's expected, with it having a mythic skin now and replacing the CBR as the favourite gun for people who wants to win fights with barely any effort.
The AGR, J3, and Renetti buff felt like it was there just so they could say "Hey don't worry we didn't forget about this gun".
Also when talking about guns that have ammo conversions, should've probably displayed builds for both versions of the gun.
Everything you said is spot on. I would add that this is the first time the agr gets a buff without selling a legendary or battle pass model, so it's meant to be meaningless and to show people it's not necessary to look after it, I'm not sure why the devs hate some guns soo much. They spent like four seasons straight giving the 3 tap rifles massive buffs, but they didn't touch the man o war, maybe they really hate certain guns. The type is meant to suck because it has been "mythic obsoleted" by the m13, just like the bk57 with kilo 141 and m4lmg with holger.
🧐 big brain
AR meta is actually goood not thst broken. All AR almost perform the same with just a little difference just like how grau, m13, ffar, kilo, kn44, lk24. Plus it's not that annoying unlike a shotgun and smg broken meta which is OP.
Off topic but weren't you guys gonna make a Bruen MK9 analysis video?
we did initially plan on making one, but we aren't going to anymore
@@tycharius gotcha, by the way, did you guys manage to gather any data before you decided to cancel the idea of making the video about said LMG? If that is the case, I'd appreciate any BR-related info like ttk and how it compares to other LMGs there. I believe cat guy (I don't know what his/her Discord username is so I always refer to him/her that way) stated it is an upper tier LMG in BR but I'd like to know why besides what I know (better than average bullet speed, maximum spread, mag size capacity and bullet impact). I am looking forward to hearing from you guys :)
Quick Strike BR class also got buffed, with an increase in recharging speed. However, there are no details on how much it got increased.
Why suggest an arctic 50 loadout without stopping power tho, even after making the argument for it? 😂
Are you going to cover BR meta this season?
we do plan on making a top br weapons video in the future, so stay tuned for that
@@tycharius Thanks for your work guys. Hope to see it soon haha.
J358 with stopping power can 1 shot to chest up to 8m
Omg i used to use it as a pocket sniper just hitting headshots back when the deagle wasn't around this is badass!
I consider the j358 SP to be an assassin weapon. Shooting someone headon wont reward you as often with a 1 shot kill, meanwhile a sneak attack from behind will make some funny clips since nothing stops you from getting those 1 shots now that chest is available.
Why everytime is a different guy presenting, there's nothing more comforting than Paths monotone voice 😂
lmao what happend to path ??
ZRG buff was needed.
That movement speed buff paired with lightweight can make it a really underrated aggressive sniper
M13 >> grau
Grau only has better ttk , hipfire and walking speed
M13 has better everything else
Personally speaking grau is not really amazing.
Its 4 shot being 19 m - 25 m depending on your range boost is frankly abysmal
And near 280 ms ttk after 20 m due to bv isnt much help to it.
M13 has the bonus of fire rate compensating missed shots better as well
Grau is easier to use hence its better
@@ferdinandotitoju9486 Grau is also easier to use than kilo 141
But kilo is better than every way and by far
So I don't get how recoil outweighs m13's 6-8 stats in which it's better
And heavy long m13 is even easier to use than grau with lower recoil,flinch and first damage range being 34 meters
Grau's is 21 m
@@michi7410 grau is still better than it tho that's the problem
M13 is highly overrated
Grau has much better handling than m13. M13 kicks much harder and may need an attachment to keep in in check. Grau simply has a brain dead recoil pattern that anyone can learn and people tend to lean to simple recoil. The point is to not miss at all (or as little as possible) and it doesnt matter if you have high fire rate if you cant even land any of the shots. Its something to consider on a broad spectrum of weapons that actual see popular use
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0:32 I have my own build for the AS VAL (i’m writing on my ipad i’ll type it later)
where is it?
@@HISSINGTHOUGHTSGAMING sorry i had school,
Barrel - MIP Quick Response Barrel
stock - OWC Skeleton Stock
Laser- OWC tac laser
Mag- Fast reload
grip- granulated grip
Make video on sensitivity settings, as there are to many changes happening all sensitivity video are old..
2:45 wallbang suck because you are not using armor piercer mag
i dont believe in ar n shoty in mp.. i rather believe in smg n sniper
Semi auto AS VAL has the mobility of an smg, literally 6.6 sprint and 4.0 strafe. i tested it and i felt like headshots were slightly easier to get (in most fps projectile speed weapons have large balls for hitboxes instead of little bullets). but performance at crossmapping moving targets was harder. i was getting 30+ kill games with it so Id say its very good, much better than expected.
gunsmith?
5:27 its still 30%
No mention about the pkm?
Only reduced aim shake . but it doesn't effect anything much . Just better ads view when firing for those who have motion sickness
@@ArgusXIInah. It was really shaky after all of the aim shake buffs until this one. It was needed.
@@ArgusXII I mean, aim shake does make recoil control harder, which is quite harmful for a gun that is supossed to specialize in long range. I hope this buff makes it more viable for BR and mp.
🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏 waiting for top 10 this season for multiplayer and battle royal 👀🫡
Martyrdom + Demo Expert .... Anyone?
Go crazy in objective gamemodes.
Im sorry but its not the same like when path does voiceover...
his voice overs are prioritized over anyone elses if he isnt too busy to do it.
@@QraixSaikoyou’re doing great imo m8
@@blac_isothanks. Ill be doing the next one as well. Ill just continue to be myself. So when Path does make an appearance itll be appreciated.
grau needs a fire rate buff
No it doesn't