I keep coming back to the idea that the civilisation that is dying is driven by fear - which feeds competition, at the expense of cooperation, and war, at the expense of peace - and that the most necessary change is in that chain. The UN was founded on belief in the necessity of moving from competition to cooperation, in every sphere, but we need to rebuild faith in that approach, local to global.
If as predicted we are seven meals away from societal breakdown, we need to grow food whilst sequestering carbon and avoiding bare soil that re-radiates the heat that unbalances our planet
Transformation for me lies beyond the idea of nations, states, borders and ownership of land. Technological localisation. I thought on this a lot and see a future if we're smart we'll individually and collectively evolve our consciousness along with AI before it runs ahead. Kurzweils singularity is probably closer than we think, on the other side of that may be the answer. Symbiosis with advanced technology and the biosphere is what I'm thinking and beyond that we have exciting things like microgrids, small scale power, advances in PV, wind and materials science that underpins it. Why we don't already have tech like vertical farms in cities, maglev monorail to out of town parking. Half the problem I feel with consumerism is that we insulate ourselves from the real world inside our homes and spend our money there. We should really be spending more money outside and gathering there. The other half of the problem is greed and the acquisition of wealth. ASI governance would save a mountain of money and energy and from there we can enforce individual taxation to degrow the economy out of existence and replace it with a barter trade system. In a word - neoshamanism. Good chat, thanks for posting. We might not be on the same page with some things, others we might.
The artist is Tygermylk. They are just about to release a debut album. You’ll find some music on Spotify and a UA-cam channel too. We are eagerly waiting for this song, the Meadow, to be released in full 🔥❤️
Thank you for inspiring thought🙏🏻I’m writing a book in Norwegian with fokus on the holistic planning vs landscape architecture design😊How we are planning for the future!Can you put me in contact with permaculture designers like me?I need someone to talk with and help me with som questions in my prossess.
Yes. Those of us who survive climate change will adapt to climate change. The question is; who will be the adapter and who will be the adaptee to climate change? If your net worth is a billion or more dollars, congratulations. You are likely going to be an adaptee.
Oh them British garden types already planting palm trees LOL! Im in Pacific NW USA and was going to shed some heavy blankets and stopped! We might need tapestries on the walls. Confucius say, The wise thing is to prepare for the unexpected. I am sad that some people don't see what is happening. Gardeners know. Ornithologists know. species are adapting or dying. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen when folks least expect it
How on earth do people even put a roof over their heads these days. We have to do that first. Safe and secure housing is a fundamental must do …. Clearly not a problem for you guys 🤔😢
Drop your expectations and spend less and save more. The problem is most are not willing to do these simple things. My friends daughter worked at McDonalds from age 15, saved everything she earned, and bought a unit last year, with no help from her parents. She is only 22 and the unit is a one bedroom, but suits her. So it can be done. I am now helping her get off grid to be more resilient. Sacrifice and hard work, along with planning gets you there.
@ well done for your daughter , mine are also very fortunate. Problem is that not everyone is that blessed and we cannot leave them behind. Housing is a systemic problem across many nations and one that we need to reimagine as part any future adaptations. Massive migration will soon impact cooler countries and we can’t even house our own. Thinking out of the box sooner rather than later. Read Gaia Vince’s Nomad Century for some good ideas 🤷♀️
You are absolutely correct, but the fact that many people cannot even afford to live at the moment does not change the impending/current climate crisis. Climate breakdown is not going to wait while we sort out other problems. But no-one is trying to guilt trip anyone who cannot contribute. We must all do what we can, no more, no less. But those of us who can must also be aware that all problems are symptoms of a bigger problem. The fact that billionaires and climate change denial are intricately linked is no coincidence, which is why we must be intersectional about the solution. We can’t work on carbon reduction and mitigation while we are fighting among ourselves. Councils can decarbonise their housing stock with insulation, add heat pumps and solar, put small fruit trees in the gardens and all of this will also reduce people’s costs. Any savings made by that council can then be ploughed into buying more council houses, housing more homeless people, and getting people off the streets and able to contribute to climate change mitigation and their communities, be it litter picking, volunteering with a tree planting group or retraining as an engineer or climate scientist, and anything in between. When we promote a Green New Deal, which, Trump is correct, will “cost” billions, that’s where those billions will go: in ordinary peoples pockets!
Not suddenly, very slowly. and not losing, just dropping the important bit.....O2 is slowly falling as more is locked into CO2. There is a quote I cant quite remember....along the lines of..."the last generation to starve, will be the first to suffocate". But at the current rate, not a problem. But as more and more forests burn, the rate will increase.
Oh no. just moment by moment except for the 5 or 6 currently erupting volcanoes and if Twaites Glacier goes we won't have more seaside property, as tRump junior said. (He must never have taken geometry. Cones get smaller on top and all that) You'll just lose all the shipping ports.And when the water gets warm and takes up more room. . . Not in my time but probably before anyone wakes up.
Thanks Maddy for putting out this thought provoking and hopeful content.
Thank you so much Maddy for putting this amazing content out for all of us. Love this.
Thank you, Todd. Manda and Rupert are very inspriing to work with. Genuine visionaries. Always encouraging to receive positive feedback.
Wonderful information. Great conversation.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
Well, that's a call to arms if ever I heard one... thank you!
Pre-ordered the book.
I keep coming back to the idea that the civilisation that is dying is driven by fear - which feeds competition, at the expense of cooperation, and war, at the expense of peace - and that the most necessary change is in that chain. The UN was founded on belief in the necessity of moving from competition to cooperation, in every sphere, but we need to rebuild faith in that approach, local to global.
Can’t wait to read the book
If as predicted we are seven meals away from societal breakdown, we need to grow food whilst sequestering carbon and avoiding bare soil that re-radiates the heat that unbalances our planet
Transformation for me lies beyond the idea of nations, states, borders and ownership of land. Technological localisation. I thought on this a lot and see a future if we're smart we'll individually and collectively evolve our consciousness along with AI before it runs ahead. Kurzweils singularity is probably closer than we think, on the other side of that may be the answer.
Symbiosis with advanced technology and the biosphere is what I'm thinking and beyond that we have exciting things like microgrids, small scale power, advances in PV, wind and materials science that underpins it. Why we don't already have tech like vertical farms in cities, maglev monorail to out of town parking.
Half the problem I feel with consumerism is that we insulate ourselves from the real world inside our homes and spend our money there. We should really be spending more money outside and gathering there. The other half of the problem is greed and the acquisition of wealth. ASI governance would save a mountain of money and energy and from there we can enforce individual taxation to degrow the economy out of existence and replace it with a barter trade system. In a word - neoshamanism.
Good chat, thanks for posting. We might not be on the same page with some things, others we might.
Whats the name of that amazing song on the outro? I need to upgrade my tunes to be aligned with permaculture🤯🤩
The artist is Tygermylk. They are just about to release a debut album. You’ll find some music on Spotify and a UA-cam channel too. We are eagerly waiting for this song, the Meadow, to be released in full 🔥❤️
28:10 the sell-by date of this civilisation was ~8000BC when we took up farming. The best-before date was c1750AD, and the expiration date is ~2035AD.
Please look at Water Jehne's research about the H2O cycle and you might change your mind
Thank you for inspiring thought🙏🏻I’m writing a book in Norwegian with fokus on the holistic planning vs landscape architecture design😊How we are planning for the future!Can you put me in contact with permaculture designers like me?I need someone to talk with and help me with som questions in my prossess.
Please could you contact the Permaculture Association (Britain) who will know who is working on climate adaptation designs.
Level 7 of Spiral Dynamics?
Ignore the Canalblicity. That is the essence of fear without agency. Let it flow through but has no power
Yes. Those of us who survive climate change will adapt to climate change. The question is; who will be the adapter and who will be the adaptee to climate change? If your net worth is a billion or more dollars, congratulations. You are likely going to be an adaptee.
You should all look into the Solarpunk genre
Believe me, we have :)
Why?
Whip out your elevator speech
Oh them British garden types already planting palm trees LOL! Im in Pacific NW USA and was going to shed some heavy blankets and stopped! We might need tapestries on the walls. Confucius say, The wise thing is to prepare for the unexpected.
I am sad that some people don't see what is happening. Gardeners know. Ornithologists know. species are adapting or dying. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen when folks least expect it
How on earth do people even put a roof over their heads these days. We have to do that first. Safe and secure housing is a fundamental must do …. Clearly not a problem for you guys 🤔😢
Drop your expectations and spend less and save more. The problem is most are not willing to do these simple things. My friends daughter worked at McDonalds from age 15, saved everything she earned, and bought a unit last year, with no help from her parents. She is only 22 and the unit is a one bedroom, but suits her. So it can be done. I am now helping her get off grid to be more resilient. Sacrifice and hard work, along with planning gets you there.
@ well done for your daughter , mine are also very fortunate. Problem is that not everyone is that blessed and we cannot leave them behind. Housing is a systemic problem across many nations and one that we need to reimagine as part any future adaptations. Massive migration will soon impact cooler countries and we can’t even house our own. Thinking out of the box sooner rather than later. Read Gaia Vince’s Nomad Century for some good ideas 🤷♀️
Can't you multitask? Because that's what's generally happening.
There are buildings everywhere in the UK that are unused. Just a crowbar away.
You are absolutely correct, but the fact that many people cannot even afford to live at the moment does not change the impending/current climate crisis. Climate breakdown is not going to wait while we sort out other problems.
But no-one is trying to guilt trip anyone who cannot contribute. We must all do what we can, no more, no less.
But those of us who can must also be aware that all problems are symptoms of a bigger problem. The fact that billionaires and climate change denial are intricately linked is no coincidence, which is why we must be intersectional about the solution. We can’t work on carbon reduction and mitigation while we are fighting among ourselves.
Councils can decarbonise their housing stock with insulation, add heat pumps and solar, put small fruit trees in the gardens and all of this will also reduce people’s costs. Any savings made by that council can then be ploughed into buying more council houses, housing more homeless people, and getting people off the streets and able to contribute to climate change mitigation and their communities, be it litter picking, volunteering with a tree planting group or retraining as an engineer or climate scientist, and anything in between.
When we promote a Green New Deal, which, Trump is correct, will “cost” billions, that’s where those billions will go: in ordinary peoples pockets!
Maybe we shouldn’t…
Forget adapting...think canalblisticly. 😂
Yes, we should be building more canals!!! …oh, you meant CANNIBALISTIC?
WTF middle class bullshit!
WTT? (what the tRump?)
Climate...climate collapse? Are we going to suddenly lose all of our atmosphere?
No....did Lord Monckton tell you that?
Not suddenly, very slowly. and not losing, just dropping the important bit.....O2 is slowly falling as more is locked into CO2.
There is a quote I cant quite remember....along the lines of..."the last generation to starve, will be the first to suffocate".
But at the current rate, not a problem. But as more and more forests burn, the rate will increase.
@jonovens7974
One question. Where does our planet get its oxygen? (And yes, I know the answer. Just wondering if you do.)
Civilisation collapse, gradually, some suddenly, already started
Oh no. just moment by moment except for the 5 or 6 currently erupting volcanoes and if Twaites Glacier goes we won't have more seaside property, as tRump junior said. (He must never have taken geometry. Cones get smaller on top and all that) You'll just lose all the shipping ports.And when the water gets warm and takes up more room. . . Not in my time but probably before anyone wakes up.
Yawn again B/S.