I played Motocross Championship on 32X a week before playing Supercross 3D on Atari Jaguar. I enjoyed Motocross Championship on 32X. Not saying it's the greatest game ever, but I really enjoyed it and played it for a very long time just having a fun time. But Supercross 3D on Jaguar? The first time I saw it's 10 frames per second I seriously said aloud "What the "BLEEP" is this?!?" and this is coming from someone who is very, VERY lenient on graphics and frame rate. The gameplay was horrible as well (go off the track just a tiny bit, you plummet to the floor). The worst part is that Supercross 3D for Jaguar was released some months AFTER Motocross Championship on 32X (which is a MUCH better Motorcross game running on the inferior 32X hardware, yet it plays and looks so much better) and Supercross 3D was released during very late holiday season of 1995... up against the Playstation and Saturn's first holiday season in the U.S. and was up against Playstation launch titles like Ridge Racer. From what I read about Atari behind the scenes (and it was absolute CHAOS during the Atari Jaguar years. To give one example: Allegedly, some Jaguar game testers were doing drugs on the job in the offices. If true, that might explain a lot of things), they knew they were going under by early 1996, so a lot of games were rushed out and they didn't care if they weren't fully functional / polished / finished. Supercross 3D definitely fits that since that game needs at least several months more of development.
Love your bad game review vids. Awesome dude 👌👌👍 BTW I reckon a jaguar cart for the evercade would be AMAZING!!! With the ones from your good game reviews rather than these.... Okay, maybe one of these for comedic reasoning 👍👍
You said it perfectly toward the end, “game was finished and rushed out the door.” That’s the formula that brought down Atari during the 2600 era, games that were finished within a few weeks and pushed out into the market. It’s why we never got to see what the Atari could really do until homebrew developers started making games. I’ll bet the Jaguar could do so much more than what we saw in the released library of games.
The same can be said of any console really, a lot of homebrew developers have the benefit of time and better understanding of hardware plus programing techniques that programers couldn't even dream of back then. Plus with cart based systems larger ROM chips being cheaper to get than back then.
It can also be said for the development of the 32X and 3DO versions of Doom, since both ports of that game were rushed pretty badly too. But that one is a whole different story.
@@LeoDoesAllThis You might have squoze another few frames a second or maybe a slightly bigger screen on the 32x but a real effort would required a rewite for the 32 from the ground up. No one was going to put in that kind of effort. From scratch, I think you could do even better for sure. The fact is the 32x version is hardly the worst version and is really quite good considering. It like most console ports of the time used the Jaguar version of the code was used(since it was the official and first console source from id themselves)if not ported directly, certainly for reference. It's really not that bad and hey.... it even has the music....not that this ever concerned me that the Jag did'nt...I was well sick of hearing the music from the PC version and turned music off even on the PC after a while.
I debated about buying a Jaguar when it came out. I instead decided to expand my Genesis and SNES libraries. After watching this video, I believe I made the right choice.
Overall, I'd say that was probably the right choice. I did by one as soon as they were out. It's unfortunate that there were so few games being release because for the first year and a half, it was kind of mind blowing. People scoff at it now, but Cybermorph, a free flying open world game in 1993 was a pretty big deal. And until the Saturn and Playstation came out, I couldn't keep people out of my dorm room because of Doom, Tempest 2000 and AvP. Heck, some of my friends even liked Trevor McFur.
Atariage is slowly building up the jaguar library. The jag can push pixels better than most any console. That should be focused on, imo. The polygon pushing is lacking.
You had both Genesis and SNES? Congratulations, it was one of the best console combinations ever, you probably spent the Console Wars laughing at the fans of each system while you played great games.
@@Hektols I wouldn't say that I laughed at them. I was a big Nintendo fanboy in the early 90s and bought a SNES as soon as it came out. But the Genesis had so many great games, and I really wanted to play a lot of them, so I caved in and bought one. I definitely supported both companies and got away from the "which system is better" nonsense that the fans got carried away with back then.
The Power Balls in Club Drive always reminded me of the everlasting gobstoppers from Willy Wonka :D But I swear it's a tech demo or unfinished game they shoved out the door. Atari did do that with, Fight for Life was another.
@@johnhancockretro Oh yeah, Atari released an unfinished build as the creator refused to give Atari the finished game until they paid him! So they thought "screw it" and released it anyway! He released the final build a few years ago, it is a much better game!
@@Larry I do wish you'd post both sides of a story when you give accounts like this Larry, you did it with Zero 5,going off a quote from Matthew Gosling, rather than getting Caspain Software bosses account and that of Darryl Still, Atari UK. Here's Atari Corps side of things: Statement from Don Thomas : FIGHT for LIFE To me, it seems like a decade since the Fight for Life project began. For a long time, Mr. Francois Yves Bertrand, it’s creator, worked in a cubicle next to mine at 1196 on Borregas Avenue. Every once in a while, Francois would invite to peer over the wall at his latest revisions and little by little I saw Fight for Life come together as if I were watching time lapse photography. Francois is an extremely talented individual. He initiated the project virtually on a single handed basis. As he developed the project, he solicited the talents of other wizards to help with some of the bit maps, texture maps and sound effects used in the game. By the time Francois was finished and submitted the final copy, the Fight for Life team was numerous, exhausted and proud… and they should be proud. Atari Corporation has always prioritized the famous “fun factor” over almost any other element in a game. The reason for this is because eye candy is only appealing in the store or when you show off a game to a friend for the first time. If the game isn’t fun, then consumers look for ways to return or sell it as soon as they decided it is boring to play. Bill Rehbock, the executive producer, and J Patton, the producer of Fight for Life believed very much in the “fun factor” formula and asked Francois to work on those parts of the game engine first. As he did, news began to leak out that Atari was working on a polygonal fighter and before long, Atari was pressed into providing work-in-progress demos to the gaming press. Unfortunately, the gaming magazines decided to evaluate the game by terms other than how it was being developed. While Francois was spending relatively little time making it look good and a lot of time at making it play well, the magazines insisted on evaluations based on how well the screen shots appeared in their glossy magazine pages. By the end of the third quarter of 1995, Atari felt compelled to announce that Fight for Life was “indefinitely postponed” while, behind the scenes, Francois and his team accelerated final development with a focus on the graphic elements of the game. On Friday, April 19, 1996, Atari released Fight for Life to the Jaguar community. As you will see below by unsolicited Internet feedback, the game is being touted as an excellent new addition to the Jaguar library. I finally got a chance to look at it this morning. Please let me say first, that I am not pretending to be a polygonal fighter expert. I’ve seen the Virtual Fighter clones, but I have not played them any more than maybe a quarter’s worth each. That being established, Fight for Life definitely has the fun factor elements I’d expect from an Atari product. Not only does the game look GREAT!, but the mechanism to “earn” new moves as I win bouts is a challenging motivation. I also like the fact that each bout feels like a real time fight. Even in instances where I found a particular one move that seems to defeat my opponent, I have to work hard using it to win. I’ll let the comments that follow speak for themselves, but overall, I’d say Fight for Life kicks BUTTered buns! And another: Ted Hoff: I would like to also share with you that Francois Bertrand has been asked back to complete work on Fight for Life. It’s important that I also tell you that our official position is the same as it has been for months…. that FFL will be released IF and WHEN it meets Atari standards. As you may have heard, the latest test reports have been favorable and I’m delighted to review it, but if Atari personnel answer your inquiries that the title remains on hold, then they are answering your question accurately. Atari remains faithful to publishing software under strict guidelines so that the product Atari customers buy meets or exceeds their expectations. You've also got: Bill Rehbock in his interview with Arcade Attack,talks of Atari playing with the big boys with regard F.F.L… Since Sega’s Virtual Fighter was not fully texture mapped,Atari wanted to do a fully texture mapped game on the Jaguar and Bill himself admits the system wasn’t geared up to do this. He also talked of Sam Tramiel focus group testing the game,knew it would review badly,ecen though some in the group thought the game was pretty cool,but Jaguar badly needed a game in this genre so it was green lit to be shipped,where as other companies would of simply pulled the plug on it. Bill went onto say the game needed another 3 artists for art and animation and entire thing needed a bigger budget. And further still from the Arcade Attack interview : Silvio Porretta There are strong rumors that the released Fight for Life was not fully completed and rushed to meet the release deadline. Is this true, and if, so how much pressure did you feel while working on this title? Not so much. All I had to do is learn the new tools and adapt quickly. I always delivered and the president of Atari was very satisfied with my work. I think the pressure was mostly on FYB. It is also rumored that a fabled more complete version of the game was completed by FYB but never released. Do you know if he or anyone else has the complete version of the game anywhere, and if so, how different was this version to the released game? It’s possible that FYB has a more complete, unreleased version of the game. He would be the only person to have such version. I would think that the difference would only be in the performance and maybe a few improved animations. You can't go off single source quotes, they never present the full story and it's straightforward to find others talking about the games development.
Atari Jaguar: How you want your racing games? Literally No one: Ones that look like they were made in MS Paint with slideshow framerate. Atari Jaguar: I gotchu.
I had about 30 or more of the games and when my sister came to visit, her son only wanted to play Club Drive. It was funny how much he liked that game. He was somewhere under 10 years old at the time.
I remember trying the Jag at an older neighbor's when I was a kid and being like "??? what IS this system, what are these games??" lol the controller and games struck me as so weird compared to what I was used to - Nintendo/Sega
I almost bought a Jaguar back in the day for Tempest 2000, then I kept talking myself out of it because there weren’t enough other games that interested me/looked decent. Tempest X3 eventually showed up on PSX and I got that instead and loved it.
Good video! Unfortunately, I do have all of these bad Jaguar games in this video! They are bad. I remember getting some of these on the cheap, when Atari was getting rid of them.
I was trying to remember when I played Club Drive then I remembered it was one of the games on Atari 50. You're correct the game is terrible I have no idea how to play or even what the object of the game is. You are usually right on the mark when it comes to bad games.
I still have my original copy of club Drive CIB and yes I know it’s not a good game but when I was 11 years old and it was one of the first polygon based games, it was pretty fun. But it definitely deserves a place on this list. I really can’t think of anything else to put on this list but if the creator of club Drive is watching and reading comments, I enjoyed it, and I still have my original copy. Jerome’s pad rocks!
The Atari Jaguar was a missed opportunity it had decent calculating power.But unfortunately a lacklustre SDK based around the Atari TT, most games developers were not used to the hybrid system that the Atari Jaguar used.
The Jag is an example of backwards hurting a current gen console. So many developers just converted their current 68000 CPU games to use the control chip.
not sure if it's an emulator bug yet to be ironed out, but when I tried Supercross 3D on Virtual Jaguar, I found it hilarious that sometimes the bike just refuses to turn any direction, and you can drive straight through the walls into a brown void
Emu bug probably. I never came across it on the real deal but I also did not play the game much after a while when I realized what an inexcusably piss poor ( hardly an)effort it was.
Let's talk about the graphic design of the box for trevor mcfur, what would possess them to put huge lettering for the first part of the title, then make the location it's set in small, offset to the side and looking like a nintendo seal of quality?
You forgot Checkered Flag. It was impossible to control the car. I bought the Jag the first week it came out and kept telling myself it wasn't that bad....lol.
Every one says or thinks its the frame rate. It's not... it is definitely the controls. I do have the source to it. I should try to see if I can fix the control and sway out the joy pad for a rotary encoder. I already have encoder code for the DSP and it works well with an adapter to allow use of Atari driving controllers..up to 8 per console.
I like Kasumi NInja, Mc Fur and Cybermorph. But my favorite driving game of all time is : Drive Club. It had real physics that was way ahead of it’s time.
Trevor Mcfur is more bearable if you have a controller modded for Rapid Fire. You can check out cross face gaming who custom makes them. Most of the homebrew shooters in the system are great today. Making up for lost time.
Those Club Drive graphics are awful, but for the era they would've been acceptable to people who were still wowed by the novelty of early 3D polygonal graphics. I mean, think about it - Hard Drivin' was a hit at the time even though it looked and played like utter garbage, and I remember renting it on Genesis back then and being blown away that I could drive around this 3D "virtual reality" environment and experiment with the physics by driving off ramps and stuff. So as a kid, I would've probably gotten a huge kick out of being able to drive around in VR versions of a giant house or whatever in Club Drive. It was a really creative, novel idea for a driving game. If more developers had put in the work to create games on par with Rayman, the console would've looked like a substantial upgrade from the 16 bit consoles. Instead, Atari seemingly went out of their way to port unimpressive games with tiny sprites - Sensible Soccer, Cannon Fodder, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Theme Park, Attack of the Mutant Penguins, Syndicate, etc. That isn't to say that those are all bad games, but it's odd that they'd prioritize so many graphically unimpressive titles (even by the current 16 bit standards) when their marketing revolved around how "powerful" the Jaguar supposedly was.
I actually owned a Jag for a short while and can't remember enjoying a single game that I played. The truth about the console came out years later and confirmed what we all suspected; it was never a truly 64bit system. It simply had a 64bit bus but was ultimately a 16bit system (and a bad one at that) where it counted.
Atari's biggest problem has always been hype. They allowed some awful crap on the 2600,sunk gaming but then decided to revive that business model. Over promised on the Jaguar's 64 bit capability. They completely ignored the consumer recommendation factor, most people spending that amount of money on a console do some homework. They sunk way too much money on advertising, money which could have made a good console that was actually true 64 bit. Card edge connectors for peripherals, how many ways did they cheapen out on the design, early home computer tech from the late 70's used card edge connectors to keep prices low, Atari in the mid 90's used them to keep profits high. There were a handful of good games on the Jaguar on top of a pile of crap but none of them could hold a candle to most 16 bit games. They could have still been a huge company had they not used their conman ethics. They had gaming in the palm of their hands in the late 70's and threw it away with naked greed only to repeat that catastrophe in the 90's. They failed to look at the competition against the Jaguar, consoles people owned and knew were really good and understood that the leap forward to 64 bit should look and play amazingly good as with the N64. 32 bit Playstation 1 was streets ahead of Jaguar at only half the power. When I think of Atari, I just think grubby company with very bad ethics.
There are just too many other factors that affect performance. Consider that the Fairchild Channel F, the Atari 2600 and the NES are all 8-bit systems. The Jaguar is the Channel F of 64-bit.
I usually buy all the systems, but the Jaguars was one system I skipped during the mid 90s. I had the 3D0, Saturn, PS1, 32X, and N64. I should have skipped the 32X as it was just as bad.
I wish Atari used their vast stores of wealth and relationships with companies like Sega to make a console that was truly next-gen. They really could have catapulted the market forward. Instead, they acted like a start-up out of someone's garage.
Ah yes, Trevor McFur, with such exciting enemies as "cube", "sphere", and "rock". No seriously, let the game play, and it shows you those as the enemies to fight. The lion in the military uniform is the best part of this game.
Confucius say: Even though some games may be perceived as "bad" by a multitude of people, I'm sure even the worst are loved by someone, just like people😂
LOL! John! I’m laughing that you can make a bad games video on the Jaguar. I had a Jaguar, and as far as I’m concerned…the only GOOD game on that console was Alien vs Predator. AvsP was actually a superb game!! It was the launch title that I got with the console. Every other game was 💩. When the Jaguar came out, I was seduced by Alien vs Predator so I bought one while my best friend bought a PS1. Yup! I was a chump. He was a champ.
One of the reasons so many games looked no better than the 16 bit systems was lazy and greedy developers. The Jaguar used the same CPU was the Sega Genisis but had 2 64bit chips for graphics. Instead of programming the games for the two high powered (for the time) GPU chips, they just ported the Genisis version over because it was easy. ,
where did you learn to fly? Edit: as an idea... you have and I mean HAVE access to the best games but also the worst! keep it going as a sub series! worst games (in your opinion) and then you can run poles on what we (your viewers) think. have a video recording of game play to justify it. I'd watch it happily. The difference is that you can literally bring out the original crap games... and there must be 100's in the megadrive collection and super nes, etc
Then again most of those commenting never actually owned the Atari Jaguar.It was a machine that could have done much better than it often showed.But a lacklustre SDK and many games developers just really using the 68000 instead of the custom chips that had most of the Atari Jaguar calculating power held it back on games performance.And Atari even told games developers that the 68000 was not to be used for running main game code as it was just for use as a general controller.Yet many games developers did so anyway instead of running game code around the custom chips Tom and Jerry.So some of the blame must fall on these games developers and Atari themselves for a SDK that was based around an Atari TT rather than the more usual Windows PC that games developers were a lot more familiar with.
You know, back in the day, in the mid to late 90s I wanted a Jaguar. I am so glad I never bought one. From what I can see, there really aren't any games that are worth getting the console for.
IMHO, the Jaguar was all hype... I took one look on the pictures of the games and they looked WORST play station or saturn, yet it was supposed to be more powerful. It was an obvious pass.
please PLEASE tell me where you got the awesome cap you're wearing. I've asked you this multiple times on tons of your videos but I don't think I've ever had a reply. I just wanna buy the hat man
I think the majority of the Jag games could have been on this list. When the Jag was released I was really pulling for Atari but it was a huge disappointment. I ended up getting one in 2005 to complete my Atari console collection.
Atari tried to usher in a new era but they were so far behind from nintendo and sega that it was too little too late and the atari brand name had been damaged beyond repair
EVERY console has bad games but those bad games on other consoles don't get highlighted, instead everyone likes to crap on the Jaguar and all people talk about are the bad games instead of showing the good ones. And Trevor McFur is not a bad game, I finished it back in the day and I enjoyed playing it. The only bad thing about Trevor McFur is there is no music.
1:28 Terrible graphics? or no graphics? That game has just solid colors 🤣
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We all must agree that if John doesn't like a video game it is bad! I mean, John has probably played more video games than anyone else in history, and, even in all his ranking videos he so rarely gives an F to a title. He always manages to find something good and usually gives the minimum of a D. So, take head to the game guru. If he says it's bad, it's terrible!
Without any real life experience with the Jaguar, I can say that your choice of turds seems pretty excellent to me 👍🏻 Especially the basketball "game" at the end... Oh man, what is going on with these huge Word arts that are ugly as fuck and pop up every single second right in the middle of the screen???
Man I still love my Jaguar! Alien vs Predator, Doom, Raiden and Wolfenstein are some of my favorites. I can’t believe what the console and games are going for these days! I bought mine at Kay B toys back in 97 for $20 for the console and $5 per game.
I sort of regret selling my Jaguar. Tempest 2K was an all time classic for ANY system (as evidenced by the fact it got ported to everything) and it had a lot of other underrated games (Power Drive Rally and Iron Soldier among them).
I actually legitimately loved Club Drive for all it's faults. It was glitchy as hell and definitely not a racing game, but the exploration was fun. It was definitely a bad game, but I enjoyed it.
@@dad7275 I think, if they used Club Drive engine on Checkered Flag, then the CF game would be better. Frame rate on Club Drive is smooth compared to CF.
I am absolutely love Club Drive! Every time I hear that corny music, it puts a hugh smile on my face! Club Drive falls in the category of "so bad, it's good"!
Me too. I also vividly recall around that exact same time KB Toys was also liquidating the last of their NES stock, which seemed to take quite a few years for them to fully drain. In particular I can remember them having Punch-Out!! w/Mr. Dream, Final Fantasy, Mega Man 6, Metroid (yellow rerelease), Kirby's Adventure, Wario's Woods, Yoshi, and Yoshi's Cookie, all for $4.99!!!! Could you imagine nowadays?! A SEALED Mega Man game for $4.99?!!
Honestly, that's how I felt about the whole 5th generation. And not just looking back in horror, even at the time I wasn't a big fan. I had an Atari Jaguar, so that system is where the novelty of 3D graphics wore off. When I realize I bet on the wrong horse, I considered buying a Saturn just because that was really the only system getting many 2D games at the time. But in the end, I didn't buy any of those consoles and just made due with my Jag and SNES while I waited for 3D mature in the next generation. I hear people crying about how they want an N64 mini, and I feel ill just thinking about it.
I loved my Saturn. But other than Clockwork Knight, it’s best games were 3D, but stylized 3D (Nights into Dreams, Virtua Fighter, Panzer Dragoon Series)
@@provisionalhypothesis Well, no. I wouldn't buy another console until the Wii. Again, one thing that made me want a Saturn was it more 2D games than PS and N64. Although looking back, I think some of the games I thought I would have been able to get were actually Japan only Saturn games. I remember the game magazines back then used to preview games from Japan but something like 75% of Saturn games in Japan never got a North American release.
Atari Jaguar SDK was based around the Atari TT and that was not as familiar to many developers.And many developers ran the game code around the 68000 because it was familiar to them unlike the custom chips inside the Atari Jaguar.And Atari had told developers that the 68000 was to be used as a controller chip, and the Tom and Jerry custom chips should be used to push the main game code.So not surprising that the machine produced less than impressive versions of some games titles.When it was coded well it could produce some good versions of games titles.Syndicate was a good example comparable to the Windows PC version and much better than the 16 bit versions.I personally bought an Atari Jaguar for games titles like Syndicate, Alien Vs Predator, Theme Park and was quite happy with the machine and the entertainment it gave me at the time.And it was a lot less expensive than buying a Windows PC to play Syndicate on that's for sure.
You hit the nail on the head with all of them except for WMCJ. I was a teen during the time that game came out and sure, it wasn't NBA Jam T.E. but for the sake of perspective of when not only development for this game started (in 1994 before the PSX release), it was a decent game and allowed you to play with all your friends. Easily far more playable than the other 4 you mentioned combined. The Jaguar isn't a bad console, the programmers who made the games are or were. SuperCross 3D? Not even finished. Cherry on the top? That was the programmer's first 3D game. Pay close attention to the title screen and you soon realize it doesn't even say SuperCross 3D. That's because Atari rushed the unfinished game out the door, like they did with many of their games sadly. Did you hear the Nirvna rip-off soundtrack in SuperCross? Surely a placeholder but shipped cause who cares!? Talk about a sore thumb indeed. (those who remember the thumb ad ;-) ) With that said, playing WMCJ in 2021 is painful as hell and is not something to waste a good Saturday night doing lol
One day, me and a couple friends got together to get drunk and browse through my game collection. It quickly went to finding and playing the bad ones. This one was that one game we all got the most enjoyment out of. The bad gameplay, the bad audio, the windows 95 1000-in-1 CDs full of klik-n-play games kind of feel.... A lasting memory, for sure.
You forgot to mention one of the worst parts of Trevor McFur - it had no music! But Club Drive had to be the worst Jaguar game I played, hands down. I had a bunch of other games before I sold my system, but I don't really remember many of them being bad. A lot of them were just... boring.
I don't know, the title music was so bad on Trevor McFur, I think they did us a favor by not having any in game. I'd agree with your comment that most Jag games weren't awful. But too many of them felt like they were just trying to be average Genesis games with fancier graphics.
I like that Jaguar games tried to use the whole color palate - they resembled what an an acid trip would be like in video game form - a must own for Tempest 2000 though.
I played the Jaguar at my friends house when I was a kid and I didn’t even know it existed. We played a couple of shooters and I was like meh 😑… my brother and I just vastly preferred the SNES and Genisus at the time. The games for those consoles were just far more superior.
Love videos like this because it takes me back to the 90’s where they took nothing but risks. Most failed but it was fun to see them try. Sometimes it’s fun to play a horrible game and laugh at it. I didn’t know that the Jaguar was this bad. All those games look like a plug n play.🤣
A good system plagued by really sloppy programming due to horrid coding tools. the power is there but only a few games show it. Even those could have been better with a decent dev kit. When you have the other systems of the time allowing for C/C++ dev kits, Jaguar devs were old Amiga and ST 68k based coders with assembler.
I am a big fan of the Jaguar, one of my favorite systems. Before watching this video I would guess the 5 games are Aircars, Checkered Flag, White Men Can't Jump, Trevor McFur, and Bubsy in Fractured Furry Tales.
Well I got two of them right. The Jaguar had several bad games on it, but it has excellent games like Doom, Tempest 2000, Rayman, AvP, Missile Command 3D, NBA Jam TE, Worms, Ultra Vortek, etc.
@@cooladee Man... Ultra Vortek is such an overlooked sleeper and is truly a beautiful game. The developers at Beyond Games really poured their hearts and soul into and it shows. It's not Mortal Kombat and that's perfectly fine but the game is awesome, even if a tad slower on the action side than MK. However, Atari should have dropped every single Time Warner license they were bothering with for MK3 in the end, period. Keep the FMV CDs and give everyone MK3 instead. That's what should have happened.
Aircars is horrendous, but I'm guessing it wouldn't make this list because it was released after Atari shut down. Apart from Double Dragon 5, which I never played, I can honestly say Aircars is much worse than anything on this list.
@@ressljs The funny thing about AirCars is they got the networking right, so at least you could play with a few friends networked. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too huh? ( in fairness the game wasn't finished....another songbird unfinished 'finished' release if memory serves.)
@@GORF_EMPIRE If I had multiple Jaguars and could invite friends over to play multiplayer AirCars... I'm guessing I'd no longer have friends. It wasn't a Songbird release. I can't remember who originally released it, but it wasn't Songbird. It got a second run from Wave 1 Games/Good Deal Games. As far as it being unfinished, that's not hard to believe. But there's nothing that is blatantly unfinished. No levels without enemies, pick ups that don't do anything, etc.
Having played Trevor McFur, White Men Can't Jump, and Supercross 3D, I totally agree with your analysis. I've also played Double Dragon V, but on SNES and it was terrible on there. I would also add Cybermorph to my personal list of worst Jaguar games.
This period where we got the Jaguar, Jaguar CD, 3DO, CD-i and other varying attempts at alternative gaming consoles really shows that you have to be so much better than what these companies put out to be competitive. Club Drive is dumpster Fire, wait, no, Nuclear Dumpster Fire bad from the looks of it. The whole "64 bit" push was an obvious lie and the Jaguar constantly suffered due to Atari's efforts. YIKES with these titles, I'm thankful you showed us these John. I hope to see more!
The Atari Jaguar definitely had 64bit power but it was not a truly fully 64bit machine.Rather a hybrid that had 16bit, 32bit and 64bit features to it which complicated things for Atari Jaguar games developers at the time.At a time when most games developers were more familiar with the 16bit machines of the same era.
The graphics on Crescent Galaxy lack depth, plus no parallax scrolling on a 64-bit architecture machine, yet your 16-bit rivals do it in their sleep? Epic fail.
What part of an unfinished port from an unreleased console doesn't everyone get? It was another lazy rush job out the door. The only redeeming quality of this 'game' was the incredible high color depth it used. Nothing of it's time would have pushed colors that deep around that fast without spending serious graphics card money on a PC. No console at the time was capable in hardware other than the 3DO. Then you got the PS1 and others after.
I’ve heard a lot of bad things about Double Dragon V before, especially the Jaguar version. Not just that it suffered from graphics that tried to be better than its 16-bit ports, but ended up being worse and awkward music, but it also had much worse controls which would lead to the player losing in almost every single battle, thanks to how surprisingly cheap their opponents were.
Yeah I made the mistake of buying Double Dragon 5 with my system. It sucked, especially as I was expecting a scrolling brawler in the style of DD1 and DD2. Iron Solider was another game I got when I bought the console and it was actually one of if not the best Mech game I think I've ever played. Light years ahead of what it had to compete with in 1994. There was a PS1 version, Iron Solider 3. It improves on the original Jag games in a lot of ways (you can use analog sticks for a start), but something about Iron Solider 1 will for me always be the best.
In the Trevor McFur case, it doesn't help that the damned game has NO BACKGROUND MUSIC!!!! Music could make a bad game tolerable. But they didn't even TRY with this game, lol.
Good Jaguar games here:
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I played Motocross Championship on 32X a week before playing Supercross 3D on Atari Jaguar. I enjoyed Motocross Championship on 32X. Not saying it's the greatest game ever, but I really enjoyed it and played it for a very long time just having a fun time. But Supercross 3D on Jaguar? The first time I saw it's 10 frames per second I seriously said aloud "What the "BLEEP" is this?!?" and this is coming from someone who is very, VERY lenient on graphics and frame rate. The gameplay was horrible as well (go off the track just a tiny bit, you plummet to the floor). The worst part is that Supercross 3D for Jaguar was released some months AFTER Motocross Championship on 32X (which is a MUCH better Motorcross game running on the inferior 32X hardware, yet it plays and looks so much better) and Supercross 3D was released during very late holiday season of 1995... up against the Playstation and Saturn's first holiday season in the U.S. and was up against Playstation launch titles like Ridge Racer. From what I read about Atari behind the scenes (and it was absolute CHAOS during the Atari Jaguar years. To give one example: Allegedly, some Jaguar game testers were doing drugs on the job in the offices. If true, that might explain a lot of things), they knew they were going under by early 1996, so a lot of games were rushed out and they didn't care if they weren't fully functional / polished / finished. Supercross 3D definitely fits that since that game needs at least several months more of development.
Let land on Jaguar, @JamesRalph @AVGN #AVGN
Love your bad game review vids. Awesome dude 👌👌👍 BTW I reckon a jaguar cart for the evercade would be AMAZING!!! With the ones from your good game reviews rather than these.... Okay, maybe one of these for comedic reasoning 👍👍
The first game looks like some badly designed Roomba Simulator
I don't think there *are* 5 good Jaguar games lol
You said it perfectly toward the end, “game was finished and rushed out the door.” That’s the formula that brought down Atari during the 2600 era, games that were finished within a few weeks and pushed out into the market. It’s why we never got to see what the Atari could really do until homebrew developers started making games. I’ll bet the Jaguar could do so much more than what we saw in the released library of games.
The same can be said of any console really, a lot of homebrew developers have the benefit of time and better understanding of hardware plus programing techniques that programers couldn't even dream of back then. Plus with cart based systems larger ROM chips being cheaper to get than back then.
@@The_Real_DCT very true
It can also be said for the development of the 32X and 3DO versions of Doom, since both ports of that game were rushed pretty badly too. But that one is a whole different story.
Just look at what they are doing with the 2600 nowadays. For those willing toput in the effort.... there is still gold in that little black kitty.
@@LeoDoesAllThis You might have squoze another few frames a second or maybe a slightly bigger screen on the 32x but a real effort would required a rewite for the 32 from the ground up. No one was going to put in that kind of effort. From scratch, I think you could do even better for sure. The fact is the 32x version is hardly the worst version and is really quite good considering. It like most console ports of the time used the Jaguar version of the code was used(since it was the official and first console source from id themselves)if not ported directly, certainly for reference. It's really not that bad and hey.... it even has the music....not that this ever concerned me that the Jag did'nt...I was well sick of hearing the music from the PC version and turned music off even on the PC after a while.
I debated about buying a Jaguar when it came out. I instead decided to expand my Genesis and SNES libraries. After watching this video, I believe I made the right choice.
Overall, I'd say that was probably the right choice. I did by one as soon as they were out. It's unfortunate that there were so few games being release because for the first year and a half, it was kind of mind blowing. People scoff at it now, but Cybermorph, a free flying open world game in 1993 was a pretty big deal. And until the Saturn and Playstation came out, I couldn't keep people out of my dorm room because of Doom, Tempest 2000 and AvP. Heck, some of my friends even liked Trevor McFur.
I enjoyed my Atari jaguar. Wish I never sold it all those years ago.
Atariage is slowly building up the jaguar library. The jag can push pixels better than most any console. That should be focused on, imo. The polygon pushing is lacking.
You had both Genesis and SNES? Congratulations, it was one of the best console combinations ever, you probably spent the Console Wars laughing at the fans of each system while you played great games.
@@Hektols I wouldn't say that I laughed at them. I was a big Nintendo fanboy in the early 90s and bought a SNES as soon as it came out. But the Genesis had so many great games, and I really wanted to play a lot of them, so I caved in and bought one. I definitely supported both companies and got away from the "which system is better" nonsense that the fans got carried away with back then.
That Motocross game looks more like one frame per second.
The Power Balls in Club Drive always reminded me of the everlasting gobstoppers from Willy Wonka :D
But I swear it's a tech demo or unfinished game they shoved out the door. Atari did do that with, Fight for Life was another.
While Fight for Life was indeed broken, I enjoyed it haha.
@@johnhancockretro Oh yeah, Atari released an unfinished build as the creator refused to give Atari the finished game until they paid him! So they thought "screw it" and released it anyway!
He released the final build a few years ago, it is a much better game!
@@Larry I do wish you'd post both sides of a story when you give accounts like this Larry, you did it with Zero 5,going off a quote from Matthew Gosling, rather than getting Caspain Software bosses account and that of Darryl Still, Atari UK.
Here's Atari Corps side of things:
Statement from Don Thomas :
FIGHT for LIFE
To me, it seems like a decade since the Fight for Life
project began. For a long time, Mr. Francois Yves Bertrand,
it’s creator, worked in a cubicle next to mine at 1196 on
Borregas Avenue. Every once in a while, Francois would
invite to peer over the wall at his latest revisions and
little by little I saw Fight for Life come together as if I
were watching time lapse photography.
Francois is an extremely talented individual. He initiated
the project virtually on a single handed basis. As he
developed the project, he solicited the talents of other
wizards to help with some of the bit maps, texture maps and
sound effects used in the game. By the time Francois was
finished and submitted the final copy, the Fight for Life
team was numerous, exhausted and proud… and they should be
proud.
Atari Corporation has always prioritized the famous “fun
factor” over almost any other element in a game. The reason
for this is because eye candy is only appealing in the store
or when you show off a game to a friend for the first time.
If the game isn’t fun, then consumers look for ways to
return or sell it as soon as they decided it is boring to
play.
Bill Rehbock, the executive producer, and J Patton, the
producer of Fight for Life believed very much in the “fun
factor” formula and asked Francois to work on those parts of
the game engine first. As he did, news began to leak out
that Atari was working on a polygonal fighter and before
long, Atari was pressed into providing work-in-progress
demos to the gaming press. Unfortunately, the gaming
magazines decided to evaluate the game by terms other than
how it was being developed. While Francois was spending
relatively little time making it look good and a lot of time
at making it play well, the magazines insisted on
evaluations based on how well the screen shots appeared in
their glossy magazine pages. By the end of the third quarter
of 1995, Atari felt compelled to announce that Fight for
Life was “indefinitely postponed” while, behind the scenes,
Francois and his team accelerated final development with a
focus on the graphic elements of the game.
On Friday, April 19, 1996, Atari released Fight for Life to
the Jaguar community. As you will see below by unsolicited
Internet feedback, the game is being touted as an excellent
new addition to the Jaguar library. I finally got a chance
to look at it this morning. Please let me say first, that I
am not pretending to be a polygonal fighter expert. I’ve
seen the Virtual Fighter clones, but I have not played them
any more than maybe a quarter’s worth each. That being
established, Fight for Life definitely has the fun factor
elements I’d expect from an Atari product. Not only does the
game look GREAT!, but the mechanism to “earn” new moves as I
win bouts is a challenging motivation. I also like the fact
that each bout feels like a real time fight. Even in
instances where I found a particular one move that seems to
defeat my opponent, I have to work hard using it to win.
I’ll let the comments that follow speak for themselves, but
overall, I’d say Fight for Life kicks BUTTered buns!
And another:
Ted Hoff: I would like to also share with you that Francois Bertrand
has been asked back to complete work on Fight for Life.
It’s important that I also tell you that our official
position is the same as it has been for months…. that FFL
will be released IF and WHEN it meets Atari standards.
As you may have heard, the latest test reports have been
favorable and I’m delighted to review it, but if Atari
personnel answer your inquiries that the title remains on
hold, then they are answering your question accurately.
Atari remains faithful to publishing software under strict
guidelines so that the product Atari customers buy meets
or exceeds their expectations.
You've also got:
Bill Rehbock in his interview with Arcade Attack,talks of Atari playing with the big boys with regard F.F.L…
Since Sega’s Virtual Fighter was not fully texture mapped,Atari wanted to do a fully texture mapped game on the Jaguar and Bill himself admits the system wasn’t geared up to do this.
He also talked of Sam Tramiel focus group testing the game,knew it would review badly,ecen though some in the group thought the game was pretty cool,but Jaguar badly needed a game in this genre so it was green lit to be shipped,where as other companies would of simply pulled the plug on it.
Bill went onto say the game needed another 3 artists for art and animation and entire thing needed a bigger budget.
And further still from the Arcade Attack interview :
Silvio Porretta
There are strong rumors that the released Fight for Life was not fully completed and rushed to meet the release deadline. Is this true, and if, so how much pressure did you feel while working on this title?
Not so much. All I had to do is learn the new tools and adapt quickly. I always delivered and the president of Atari was very satisfied with my work. I think the pressure was mostly on FYB.
It is also rumored that a fabled more complete version of the game was completed by FYB but never released. Do you know if he or anyone else has the complete version of the game anywhere, and if so, how different was this version to the released game?
It’s possible that FYB has a more complete, unreleased version of the game. He would be the only person to have such version. I would think that the difference would only be in the performance and maybe a few improved animations.
You can't go off single source quotes, they never present the full story and it's straightforward to find others talking about the games development.
Hello you
@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 If a story makes a big company look bad then they'll stick with that version without even second guessing anything.
Atari Jaguar: How you want your racing games?
Literally No one: Ones that look like they were made in MS Paint with slideshow framerate.
Atari Jaguar: I gotchu.
I had about 30 or more of the games and when my sister came to visit, her son only wanted to play Club Drive. It was funny how much he liked that game. He was somewhere under 10 years old at the time.
I remember trying the Jag at an older neighbor's when I was a kid and being like "??? what IS this system, what are these games??" lol the controller and games struck me as so weird compared to what I was used to - Nintendo/Sega
Wow, what a story! I saw a mouse a few days ago!
@@datacipher Is your life really this boring that you need to bust DreamcastQ's balls?
@@GORF_EMPIRE AWWWW....I'M SOWWY Bubby. It's gonna be OK. You're a big boy.
Funny how a compilation video of bad games is pretty watchable. It's like an episode of bloopers.
"Bangin' up high the handle homey beef" ~ An actual line in _White Men Can't Jump_ . And yes, there are more like it.
I almost bought a Jaguar back in the day for Tempest 2000, then I kept talking myself out of it because there weren’t enough other games that interested me/looked decent.
Tempest X3 eventually showed up on PSX and I got that instead and loved it.
Good video! Unfortunately, I do have all of these bad Jaguar games in this video! They are bad. I remember getting some of these on the cheap, when Atari was getting rid of them.
I was trying to remember when I played Club Drive then I remembered it was one of the games on Atari 50. You're correct the game is terrible I have no idea how to play or even what the object of the game is. You are usually right on the mark when it comes to bad games.
I still have my original copy of club Drive CIB and yes I know it’s not a good game but when I was 11 years old and it was one of the first polygon based games, it was pretty fun. But it definitely deserves a place on this list. I really can’t think of anything else to put on this list but if the creator of club Drive is watching and reading comments, I enjoyed it, and I still have my original copy. Jerome’s pad rocks!
The Atari Jaguar was a missed opportunity it had decent calculating power.But unfortunately a lacklustre SDK based around the Atari TT, most games developers were not used to the hybrid system that the Atari Jaguar used.
The Jag is an example of backwards hurting a current gen console. So many developers just converted their current 68000 CPU games to use the control chip.
Bubsy on the Jag is another game that's considered as really bad, but I actually really like it.
good video, audio was a bit harsh in this one tho
not sure if it's an emulator bug yet to be ironed out, but when I tried Supercross 3D on Virtual Jaguar, I found it hilarious that sometimes the bike just refuses to turn any direction, and you can drive straight through the walls into a brown void
Emu bug probably. I never came across it on the real deal but I also did not play the game much after a while when I realized what an inexcusably piss poor ( hardly an)effort it was.
Let's talk about the graphic design of the box for trevor mcfur, what would possess them to put huge lettering for the first part of the title, then make the location it's set in small, offset to the side and looking like a nintendo seal of quality?
Lol John you're too kind, I'd think you'd be better off with a top 5 GOOD games list as that's probably all the system ever had. :D
You forgot Checkered Flag. It was impossible to control the car. I bought the Jag the first week it came out and kept telling myself it wasn't that bad....lol.
Every one says or thinks its the frame rate. It's not... it is definitely the controls. I do have the source to it. I should try to see if I can fix the control and sway out the joy pad for a rotary encoder. I already have encoder code for the DSP and it works well with an adapter to allow use of Atari driving controllers..up to 8 per console.
I like Kasumi NInja, Mc Fur and Cybermorph. But my favorite driving game of all time is : Drive Club. It had real physics that was way ahead of it’s time.
Trevor Mcfur is more bearable if you have a controller modded for Rapid Fire. You can check out cross face gaming who custom makes them. Most of the homebrew shooters in the system are great today. Making up for lost time.
Those Club Drive graphics are awful, but for the era they would've been acceptable to people who were still wowed by the novelty of early 3D polygonal graphics. I mean, think about it - Hard Drivin' was a hit at the time even though it looked and played like utter garbage, and I remember renting it on Genesis back then and being blown away that I could drive around this 3D "virtual reality" environment and experiment with the physics by driving off ramps and stuff. So as a kid, I would've probably gotten a huge kick out of being able to drive around in VR versions of a giant house or whatever in Club Drive. It was a really creative, novel idea for a driving game.
If more developers had put in the work to create games on par with Rayman, the console would've looked like a substantial upgrade from the 16 bit consoles. Instead, Atari seemingly went out of their way to port unimpressive games with tiny sprites - Sensible Soccer, Cannon Fodder, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Theme Park, Attack of the Mutant Penguins, Syndicate, etc. That isn't to say that those are all bad games, but it's odd that they'd prioritize so many graphically unimpressive titles (even by the current 16 bit standards) when their marketing revolved around how "powerful" the Jaguar supposedly was.
I actually owned a Jag for a short while and can't remember enjoying a single game that I played. The truth about the console came out years later and confirmed what we all suspected; it was never a truly 64bit system. It simply had a 64bit bus but was ultimately a 16bit system (and a bad one at that) where it counted.
With games you play?
Surprised Kasumi Ninja wasn't on this list. But yeah the Jag had some stinkers 😣😣
The basketball game and motocross are my favorite on the system,these are great games on THE JAG! I am still playing it ! Great Classic
If you like em you like em. I actually liked Cherkered Flag. 😊
Atari's biggest problem has always been hype. They allowed some awful crap on the 2600,sunk gaming but then decided to revive that business model. Over promised on the Jaguar's 64 bit capability. They completely ignored the consumer recommendation factor, most people spending that amount of money on a console do some homework. They sunk way too much money on advertising, money which could have made a good console that was actually true 64 bit. Card edge connectors for peripherals, how many ways did they cheapen out on the design, early home computer tech from the late 70's used card edge connectors to keep prices low, Atari in the mid 90's used them to keep profits high. There were a handful of good games on the Jaguar on top of a pile of crap but none of them could hold a candle to most 16 bit games. They could have still been a huge company had they not used their conman ethics. They had gaming in the palm of their hands in the late 70's and threw it away with naked greed only to repeat that catastrophe in the 90's. They failed to look at the competition against the Jaguar, consoles people owned and knew were really good and understood that the leap forward to 64 bit should look and play amazingly good as with the N64. 32 bit Playstation 1 was streets ahead of Jaguar at only half the power. When I think of Atari, I just think grubby company with very bad ethics.
The Jaguar was a 64 bit system. How did Club Drive look so blocky? There are so many other better looking racing games on the Genesid.
There are just too many other factors that affect performance. Consider that the Fairchild Channel F, the Atari 2600 and the NES are all 8-bit systems. The Jaguar is the Channel F of 64-bit.
I had a Jaguar and about 20 of the games and me and my friends were GOOD at WMCJ
I usually buy all the systems, but the Jaguars was one system I skipped during the mid 90s. I had the 3D0, Saturn, PS1, 32X, and N64. I should have skipped the 32X as it was just as bad.
I wish Atari used their vast stores of wealth and relationships with companies like Sega to make a console that was truly next-gen. They really could have catapulted the market forward. Instead, they acted like a start-up out of someone's garage.
Ah yes, Trevor McFur, with such exciting enemies as "cube", "sphere", and "rock". No seriously, let the game play, and it shows you those as the enemies to fight. The lion in the military uniform is the best part of this game.
There's actually a furry feline centric shoot 'em up on DOS called Interpose, not a great game by any means but it's a lot better than this one.
I f ing love videos about bad games
Club Drive doesn't actually look that bad. For the time pretty alright.
I'm just glad that Checkered Flag wasn't on this list. As flawed as that game was, it wasn't as terrible as everyone says.
Confucius say: Even though some games may be perceived as "bad" by a multitude of people, I'm sure even the worst are loved by someone, just like people😂
Glad I never spent my money on this console! And I always wanted it...why?
Because these are just some of the bad games. There are very good and even excellent titles for the system.
I had White Men Can't Jump. Think I bought it for the useless adapter and because I was hoping it was going to be the NBA Jam on Atari.
@Fuqutube hahahahahha
@Fuqutube 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
05:44 this reminds me of the hidden shooter on MK3 for the snes haha... anyone remembers that?
LOL! John!
I’m laughing that you can make a bad games video on the Jaguar. I had a Jaguar, and as far as I’m concerned…the only GOOD game on that console was Alien vs Predator. AvsP was actually a superb game!! It was the launch title that I got with the console. Every other game was 💩.
When the Jaguar came out, I was seduced by Alien vs Predator so I bought one while my best friend bought a PS1. Yup! I was a chump. He was a champ.
There's people out there paying a G for battlesphere. Must be good.
One of the reasons so many games looked no better than the 16 bit systems was lazy and greedy developers. The Jaguar used the same CPU was the Sega Genisis but had 2 64bit chips for graphics. Instead of programming the games for the two high powered (for the time) GPU chips, they just ported the Genisis version over because it was easy. ,
That's like the entire library. :P
These games are really terrible! Thank your for helping us get rid of them all.
where did you learn to fly?
Edit: as an idea... you have and I mean HAVE access to the best games but also the worst! keep it going as a sub series! worst games (in your opinion) and then you can run poles on what we (your viewers) think. have a video recording of game play to justify it. I'd watch it happily. The difference is that you can literally bring out the original crap games... and there must be 100's in the megadrive collection and super nes, etc
I never owned a Jaguar , I learned my lesson with the 7800. I never even looked at Atari after that.
What was wrong with the 7800? I liked it 😉
Then again most of those commenting never actually owned the Atari Jaguar.It was a machine that could have done much better than it often showed.But a lacklustre SDK and many games developers just really using the 68000 instead of the custom chips that had most of the Atari Jaguar calculating power held it back on games performance.And Atari even told games developers that the 68000 was not to be used for running main game code as it was just for use as a general controller.Yet many games developers did so anyway instead of running game code around the custom chips Tom and Jerry.So some of the blame must fall on these games developers and Atari themselves for a SDK that was based around an Atari TT rather than the more usual Windows PC that games developers were a lot more familiar with.
You know, back in the day, in the mid to late 90s I wanted a Jaguar. I am so glad I never bought one. From what I can see, there really aren't any games that are worth getting the console for.
Not true. There are a handful of decent games: AvP, Tempest 2000, Super Burnout, Iron Soldier, etc.
IMHO, the Jaguar was all hype... I took one look on the pictures of the games and they looked WORST play station or saturn, yet it was supposed to be more powerful. It was an obvious pass.
How on earth do you pick just 5?? It's rare a mainstream console has zero good games but the Jag tries very, very hard.
Tempest 2000 was great. But i bought it on Sega saturn
@@nolaxtreme You had a lucky escape. If you'd owned a Jag you'd have been too tempted to buy more than just one game.
I loved Trevor McFur but thats probably nostalgia talking.
The jaguar's best games are Rayman and it's homebrews.
Go check out the ones made by Jag mag too.
please PLEASE tell me where you got the awesome cap you're wearing. I've asked you this multiple times on tons of your videos but I don't think I've ever had a reply. I just wanna buy the hat man
It was sent to me from the designer. GameStop was selling them, try eBay
Atari had no business surviving as a company, after the Jaguar!!!!!
Jaguar had 5 games to speak of.
John, do you can Jump?
"Discount StarFox and Windows 95" LMAO
I think the majority of the Jag games could have been on this list. When the Jag was released I was really pulling for Atari but it was a huge disappointment. I ended up getting one in 2005 to complete my Atari console collection.
Atari tried to usher in a new era but they were so far behind from nintendo and sega that it was too little too late and the atari brand name had been damaged beyond repair
EVERY console has bad games but those bad games on other consoles don't get highlighted, instead everyone likes to crap on the Jaguar and all people talk about are the bad games instead of showing the good ones. And Trevor McFur is not a bad game, I finished it back in the day and I enjoyed playing it. The only bad thing about Trevor McFur is there is no music.
I hope you saw the other Jaguar videos I have done, including the ones sharing positive games and homebrews ;).
1:28 Terrible graphics? or no graphics? That game has just solid colors 🤣
We all must agree that if John doesn't like a video game it is bad! I mean, John has probably played more video games than anyone else in history, and, even in all his ranking videos he so rarely gives an F to a title. He always manages to find something good and usually gives the minimum of a D. So, take head to the game guru. If he says it's bad, it's terrible!
Well it's still opinionated at the end of the day plus I love a lot of trash games so long as they're so trash they're good 😁
Without any real life experience with the Jaguar, I can say that your choice of turds seems pretty excellent to me 👍🏻
Especially the basketball "game" at the end... Oh man, what is going on with these huge Word arts that are ugly as fuck and pop up every single second right in the middle of the screen???
It is a little know fact that whenever John wears a kilt, he can shoot fireballs. Last time that happened, people called him Angus. 🥷
I believe you, but the last game doesn't look that bad, except for the menus.
man double dragon looks like blood storm characters.
A harder video to make would be 5 good games for Jaguar.
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@@johnhancockretro wow! You found 20! I’ll have to watch that.
This is a console I can easily write off tbh
I’m doing the math and I think Atari forgot to carry a one somewhere on that dirt bike game
32 bit processor + 32 bit blitter == 64 bits. Atari themselves couldn't do the math.
Man I still love my Jaguar! Alien vs Predator, Doom, Raiden and Wolfenstein are some of my favorites. I can’t believe what the console and games are going for these days! I bought mine at Kay B toys back in 97 for $20 for the console and $5 per game.
I sort of regret selling my Jaguar. Tempest 2K was an all time classic for ANY system (as evidenced by the fact it got ported to everything) and it had a lot of other underrated games (Power Drive Rally and Iron Soldier among them).
KB Toys... Jeez that takes me back
You gotta love console clearances. I bought 8 Jags for $10 each back when they dumped it. Man I wish I bought many more.
I have to admit I had some fun with Supercross 3D (finished it) and with Trevor McFur.
Club Drive on the other hand... 🤬🤯
Oh my god that game Trever Mcfur In The ? 😂
Yes. That Trevor McFur... 😔
I actually legitimately loved Club Drive for all it's faults. It was glitchy as hell and definitely not a racing game, but the exploration was fun. It was definitely a bad game, but I enjoyed it.
I get that. I feel the same about Checkered Flag.
@@dad7275 I think, if they used Club Drive engine on Checkered Flag, then the CF game would be better. Frame rate on Club Drive is smooth compared to CF.
@@dvuemedia true. With a much better frame rate cf would have been great in my opinion.
I am absolutely love Club Drive! Every time I hear that corny music, it puts a hugh smile on my face! Club Drive falls in the category of "so bad, it's good"!
Yeah it actually looks like it could've been fun: too bad Checkered Flag has a lower framerate than 3D games on the original 1989 Gameboy.
I remember seeing the Jaguar on closeout at KB Toys about 20+ years ago for like $29.99 and all the games they had were about $10.
Me too. I also vividly recall around that exact same time KB Toys was also liquidating the last of their NES stock, which seemed to take quite a few years for them to fully drain. In particular I can remember them having Punch-Out!! w/Mr. Dream, Final Fantasy, Mega Man 6, Metroid (yellow rerelease), Kirby's Adventure, Wario's Woods, Yoshi, and Yoshi's Cookie, all for $4.99!!!! Could you imagine nowadays?! A SEALED Mega Man game for $4.99?!!
Imagine if you had bought ten of them and then sold them each for 5 or six hundred bucks on the internet, twenty years later. Lol.
@@provisionalhypothesis Right?!?
Some early 3D games made you wish they'd never entered the third dimension!
Honestly, that's how I felt about the whole 5th generation. And not just looking back in horror, even at the time I wasn't a big fan. I had an Atari Jaguar, so that system is where the novelty of 3D graphics wore off. When I realize I bet on the wrong horse, I considered buying a Saturn just because that was really the only system getting many 2D games at the time. But in the end, I didn't buy any of those consoles and just made due with my Jag and SNES while I waited for 3D mature in the next generation. I hear people crying about how they want an N64 mini, and I feel ill just thinking about it.
I loved my Saturn. But other than Clockwork Knight, it’s best games were 3D, but stylized 3D (Nights into Dreams, Virtua Fighter, Panzer Dragoon Series)
@@ressljsWhen you realized you bet on the wrong horse, you decided to get a saturn ? Oh lord. 😂
@@provisionalhypothesis Well, no. I wouldn't buy another console until the Wii. Again, one thing that made me want a Saturn was it more 2D games than PS and N64. Although looking back, I think some of the games I thought I would have been able to get were actually Japan only Saturn games. I remember the game magazines back then used to preview games from Japan but something like 75% of Saturn games in Japan never got a North American release.
That Trevor McPur lion head immediately made me think about the lion head center framed in Samurai Cop. There will never be another 90's ever again!
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Atari Jaguar SDK was based around the Atari TT and that was not as familiar to many developers.And many developers ran the game code around the 68000 because it was familiar to them unlike the custom chips inside the Atari Jaguar.And Atari had told developers that the 68000 was to be used as a controller chip, and the Tom and Jerry custom chips should be used to push the main game code.So not surprising that the machine produced less than impressive versions of some games titles.When it was coded well it could produce some good versions of games titles.Syndicate was a good example comparable to the Windows PC version and much better than the 16 bit versions.I personally bought an Atari Jaguar for games titles like Syndicate, Alien Vs Predator, Theme Park and was quite happy with the machine and the entertainment it gave me at the time.And it was a lot less expensive than buying a Windows PC to play Syndicate on that's for sure.
You hit the nail on the head with all of them except for WMCJ. I was a teen during the time that game came out and sure, it wasn't NBA Jam T.E. but for the sake of perspective of when not only development for this game started (in 1994 before the PSX release), it was a decent game and allowed you to play with all your friends. Easily far more playable than the other 4 you mentioned combined. The Jaguar isn't a bad console, the programmers who made the games are or were. SuperCross 3D? Not even finished. Cherry on the top? That was the programmer's first 3D game. Pay close attention to the title screen and you soon realize it doesn't even say SuperCross 3D. That's because Atari rushed the unfinished game out the door, like they did with many of their games sadly. Did you hear the Nirvna rip-off soundtrack in SuperCross? Surely a placeholder but shipped cause who cares!? Talk about a sore thumb indeed. (those who remember the thumb ad ;-) ) With that said, playing WMCJ in 2021 is painful as hell and is not something to waste a good Saturday night doing lol
I actually liked Trevor McFur back in the day.
I really enjoyed Trevor as well. I would never admit it in public of course.
One day, me and a couple friends got together to get drunk and browse through my game collection. It quickly went to finding and playing the bad ones. This one was that one game we all got the most enjoyment out of. The bad gameplay, the bad audio, the windows 95 1000-in-1 CDs full of klik-n-play games kind of feel.... A lasting memory, for sure.
is he a Jaguar, perhaps?
I like it too. Its not all that bad. Ive played worse.
I enjoyed it too. I still own it 😎
You forgot to mention one of the worst parts of Trevor McFur - it had no music! But Club Drive had to be the worst Jaguar game I played, hands down. I had a bunch of other games before I sold my system, but I don't really remember many of them being bad. A lot of them were just... boring.
I don't know, the title music was so bad on Trevor McFur, I think they did us a favor by not having any in game. I'd agree with your comment that most Jag games weren't awful. But too many of them felt like they were just trying to be average Genesis games with fancier graphics.
I'm so glad I didn't spend my summer job money on this system back in the day.
I enjoyed it a lot. Drive Club was the best driving game at that time. It had real physics contrary to ridge racer and Daytona usa
Well... its worth way more than most consoles. So there is a plus side. Atari collectors will pay 400 dollars to set it on the shelf.
Don't let these games leave a bad taste in your mouth. There are much better titles that would show Jag in a much better light.
Only 5?
Where did you learn to fly ?
I like that Jaguar games tried to use the whole color palate - they resembled what an an acid trip would be like in video game form - a must own for Tempest 2000 though.
Heh. I have that same "VERT DER FERK" shirt. Good stuff.
Me too!
"where did you learn to fly?" play some defender 2k until you see the hands for some fun
I played the Jaguar at my friends house when I was a kid and I didn’t even know it existed. We played a couple of shooters and I was like meh 😑… my brother and I just vastly preferred the SNES and Genisus at the time. The games for those consoles were just far more superior.
Love videos like this because it takes me back to the 90’s where they took nothing but risks. Most failed but it was fun to see them try. Sometimes it’s fun to play a horrible game and laugh at it. I didn’t know that the Jaguar was this bad. All those games look like a plug n play.🤣
This is awesome love seeing the Jaguar stuff since I missed out on that console completely! Have a great day
You didn't miss out. Terrible console, a regrettable purchase wish I never bothered, sold it when it still had some value.
thought i was gonna heave watching the dirt bike game
Club Drive and Motocross are horrible. Crescent Moon is not that bad, i've seen lots of shooters much worse.
A good system plagued by really sloppy programming due to horrid coding tools. the power is there but only a few games show it. Even those could have been better with a decent dev kit. When you have the other systems of the time allowing for C/C++ dev kits, Jaguar devs were old Amiga and ST 68k based coders with assembler.
I am the only person to review every Jaguar game. Club drive rocks. Watch my video on it and give it another try and you will see how great it is. 😃🙏
I am a big fan of the Jaguar, one of my favorite systems. Before watching this video I would guess the 5 games are Aircars, Checkered Flag, White Men Can't Jump, Trevor McFur, and Bubsy in Fractured Furry Tales.
Well I got two of them right. The Jaguar had several bad games on it, but it has excellent games like Doom, Tempest 2000, Rayman, AvP, Missile Command 3D, NBA Jam TE, Worms, Ultra Vortek, etc.
@@cooladee Man... Ultra Vortek is such an overlooked sleeper and is truly a beautiful game. The developers at Beyond Games really poured their hearts and soul into and it shows. It's not Mortal Kombat and that's perfectly fine but the game is awesome, even if a tad slower on the action side than MK. However, Atari should have dropped every single Time Warner license they were bothering with for MK3 in the end, period. Keep the FMV CDs and give everyone MK3 instead. That's what should have happened.
Aircars is horrendous, but I'm guessing it wouldn't make this list because it was released after Atari shut down. Apart from Double Dragon 5, which I never played, I can honestly say Aircars is much worse than anything on this list.
@@ressljs The funny thing about AirCars is they got the networking right, so at least you could play with a few friends networked. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too huh? ( in fairness the game wasn't finished....another songbird unfinished 'finished' release if memory serves.)
@@GORF_EMPIRE If I had multiple Jaguars and could invite friends over to play multiplayer AirCars... I'm guessing I'd no longer have friends. It wasn't a Songbird release. I can't remember who originally released it, but it wasn't Songbird. It got a second run from Wave 1 Games/Good Deal Games. As far as it being unfinished, that's not hard to believe. But there's nothing that is blatantly unfinished. No levels without enemies, pick ups that don't do anything, etc.
Having played Trevor McFur, White Men Can't Jump, and Supercross 3D, I totally agree with your analysis. I've also played Double Dragon V, but on SNES and it was terrible on there. I would also add Cybermorph to my personal list of worst Jaguar games.
This period where we got the Jaguar, Jaguar CD, 3DO, CD-i and other varying attempts at alternative gaming consoles really shows that you have to be so much better than what these companies put out to be competitive. Club Drive is dumpster Fire, wait, no, Nuclear Dumpster Fire bad from the looks of it. The whole "64 bit" push was an obvious lie and the Jaguar constantly suffered due to Atari's efforts. YIKES with these titles, I'm thankful you showed us these John. I hope to see more!
The Atari Jaguar definitely had 64bit power but it was not a truly fully 64bit machine.Rather a hybrid that had 16bit, 32bit and 64bit features to it which complicated things for Atari Jaguar games developers at the time.At a time when most games developers were more familiar with the 16bit machines of the same era.
It was not a lie. Go look at the schematics. You will see a 64 bit data bus. That is not there for show.
That shmup reminds me of like and old Win 95 educational game, so it feels nostalgic to me even tho I've never heard of it lol
The graphics on Crescent Galaxy lack depth, plus no parallax scrolling on a 64-bit architecture machine, yet your 16-bit rivals do it in their sleep?
Epic fail.
What part of an unfinished port from an unreleased console doesn't everyone get? It was another lazy rush job out the door. The only redeeming quality of this 'game' was the incredible high color depth it used. Nothing of it's time would have pushed colors that deep around that fast without spending serious graphics card money on a PC. No console at the time was capable in hardware other than the 3DO. Then you got the PS1 and others after.
You've got some Dr. Steve Brule Vibes goin on sometimes :) I'm a fan.
I’ve heard a lot of bad things about Double Dragon V before, especially the Jaguar version. Not just that it suffered from graphics that tried to be better than its 16-bit ports, but ended up being worse and awkward music, but it also had much worse controls which would lead to the player losing in almost every single battle, thanks to how surprisingly cheap their opponents were.
Yeah I made the mistake of buying Double Dragon 5 with my system. It sucked, especially as I was expecting a scrolling brawler in the style of DD1 and DD2.
Iron Solider was another game I got when I bought the console and it was actually one of if not the best Mech game I think I've ever played. Light years ahead of what it had to compete with in 1994. There was a PS1 version, Iron Solider 3. It improves on the original Jag games in a lot of ways (you can use analog sticks for a start), but something about Iron Solider 1 will for me always be the best.
In the Trevor McFur case, it doesn't help that the damned game has NO BACKGROUND MUSIC!!!!
Music could make a bad game tolerable. But they didn't even TRY with this game, lol.