DNA: Blood of the Irish; Basque; Black Irish; Co. Clare bones genealogy IF
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Interview with Zlata Filipovic in Dublin, Ireland.
Researcher for Blood of the Irish ( DVD released)
2 hour documentary. RTE. Crossing the Line Films.
Winner of Irish Film and Television Awards.
Random notes on Todays Broadcast Interview
Zlata
Today we talkZ with Zlata, who was researcher for the 2 hour
series on the origins of the Irish and how Irish DNA played
a determining factor.
Bosnia to Ireland.
Zlata was originally from Bosnia, but has relocated to Ireland
for 15 years. She has studied genetics and social anthropology.
We talk about about different places in the world and how it
compares to Ireland. She notes a similar feeling from the
people of Bosnia and Ireland, despite superficial differences.
‘Y’ DNA Markers
We also discuss genetic markers which make DNA so useful
to us. They relied a bit upon the research already done at
Trinity College Dublin, and studies done in Northwest Ireland.
O’Neill connection
She spoke of the genetic signature which has had a great
influence on the Irish in the north, from ‘Neil of the 9 Hostages’
around the 5th century AD. We also note the R1b marker and
M222 of more recent discovery. The connection to the Basque
people is remarkable.
The Basque People.
Those who survived the Ice Age in the Basque area of Spain
and France, are those closest related to the Irish. The
connection dates back some 8,000 years. We also note the
DNA found in Irish caves dating back thousands of years.
That includes bear DNA and human DNA.
It is notable that the Viking connections are fewer than earlier
thought, as we have noted in earlier episodes of this podcast.
The Black Irish and the Spanish Armada
The Spanish Armada has generally been exaggerated over time,
as far as being the origin of the ‘Black Irish’ in the west of Ireland.
They actually date back thousands of years earlier than the
armada.
Clare Bones
In a cave in Clare, an ancient childs bones were found and DNA
extracted and matched to living children in Clare.
An Irish Mystery
8,000 years back is as far as we can go back for known human
settlements in Ireland - but it is some 700,000 years for England !
That remains a mystery.
Wow! Just learned something new. I already knew, through research before DNA was even talked about (I'm 71), that we were descendants of Niall Noígíallach through his son Fiachu, on my father's side (father and mother-second cousins). Now I find out about the Basque, who I am descendant of in my mother's side of the family. I have done little research on her side because we never bonded even when I was a very young child. (Hint to myself: time to research that side.) I think I have gone about as far as I can get on dad's side - way more than 2,000 years, thanks to the people who maintained that geneology, that is now available online and completed the missing links. I'm from the Caribbean, but it's Puerto Rico. Something that is not known is that the Irish have been there close to 500 years. Including the one whose bloodline is the main one. He was one of the second sons of the rich Irish that the British sent to the Caribbean as hostages/slaves in the 1500. A group escaped (or was rescued) and ended up in PR. The British and the Spanish had a treaty where the Spanish agreed to return the escaped men, but PR (not called PR at the time) refused to return them and instead passed them off as Puerto Ricans, including changing their last name to something Spanish sounding. Obviously they couldn't return to Ireland. I use the last name Ortiz (which is not Spanish, but derived from the Basque Orti and meaning son of Orti, who I don't know anything about). Our real last name is McGeoghegan. My grandson is the last of our line if he doesn't have sons; no old enough yet. I'm also part Taino, which strangely enough, some (real) Jewish Rabbis researchers believe to be descendants of one of the Lost Tribes. The British Museum is now doing research on the Tainos and have indicated that evidence shows they have been in the Caribbean for longer than was believed before. They as well as other groups of what are know as native Americans believe that some of their ancestors came from an 'large island that sunk', same as some people in Ireland. Funny how everything is coming out and how connections are being made that were not even dreamed of before.
I am part Basque as well as strongly Irish and I have found that the old Irish language is rather similar to the mysterious Basque language. I believe the black Irish i.e. black hair, darker skin and eyes and a shorter stature, hail from the Iberian Peninsular...
Chris Denchal
Irish ,including its earliest forms, is part of the Celtic language group of the Indo-European language family.Basque is a language isolate-not shown to be related to any other languages.People assume ,probably correctly that it descends from an ancestral language that predates the arrival of Indo-European languages to Western Europe.Almost certainly Basque like languages were spoken in a wider area of what is now Northern Spain and South Western France into historical times.People surmise that prior to the arrival of Celtic languages into Britain and Ireland some Basque type language may have been spoken there-but that is only a possibility and will have to remain merely a guess.
Im a towle from otoll did dna and iberian blood my dad is dark skin curly hair black irish
My Father's Mother was an O'brien. Dad and his siblings had dark eyes, black curly hair and tanned complections. He told me they inherited their dark colouring from survivors of the Spanish Armada. Dad's O'brien Grandfather was tall, dark haired , dark eyed with a curly black beard and was nicknamed Black Mike. My Sister and I have dark colouring but my Brother had Dark eyes and red hair. What an interesting interview. Thank you.
I am a descendant from Lochlain (AD 983), Lord of Corcomroe, and Maoilseachlainn, the son of Cosrach and the person the surname O'Loughlin of Co.Clare originates from. The O'Daly's were our Bards.
From Puerto Rico here with 32% Irish DNA profile with surnames of "Duran", "O'Ferran", "Killeleigh", "O'Neill", "Sullivan/Solivan" and "Branagh". I am not alone in Puerto Rico. The towns where they settled are in the interior of the Island where red-hair and freckles are not unusual. Factually, the Irish came in 3 distinct groups over the Island's 500 year history:
1...in the late 1400s-1700s as paid-mercenaries to defend the Spanish fortifications. Even today the names "O'Reilly", "O'Daly" and "O'Neill" are traced back to Irish engineers and architects who built the still-standing fortifications in Old San Juan..."El Morro" and "San Cristobal"....sanjuanpuertorico.com/fortifications/...they were given land in the San Juan Metropolitan area that even today is called "San Patricio" (St. Patrick) where they settled in large numbers.
2...they also came throughout the 1700-1800s when they were refused entry into Boston, NY or Philadelphia because any number of plagues had occurred on an immigrant ship and the ships were diverted to their next destination which was the Caribbean to pick-up sugar, tobacco and molasses. When the ships arrived in Puerto Rico, these Irish were literally thrown off the ships with no way to get to their original destination on the US Mainland in the New England area.
3...and finally they came in large numbers during the infamous potato famine when so many in Ireland were literally starving to death. At the same time the Spanish government in the mid-1800 opened the island EXCLUSIVELY to European catholics who agreed to settle, create agricultural enterprises, manufacturing, banking and import and export entures...and this included many Irish again.
Unfortunately the media image of Puerto Ricans in the US media is verrrrrry different from the reality of us on the Island thanks to American movie and theater ghetto-portrayals of us dancing on roof-tops and on fire-escapes since the1950s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico
Excellent information on the genetics DNA evidence all over the world of the "Irish".
Greg Medina amazing because I look on many Puerto Rican DNA and show many have Irish and great Britain blood. But because they only show the dark people and ghetto them every one think that how Puerto Rican are or look. Is sad but true
Greg Medina my grandmother is Puerto Rican. She is a ginger with freckles and green eyes.
Thank you.
My fathers side is from Ireland, “surname spelled Casey, but the original spelling was O’Cathasaigh” I wonder if this is where my RH- blood status comes from.
Everyone wants to be Irish, it has a clean history with powerful proof that it was stable and nurturing to all its population, that was until the English came along and destroyed it, causing untold suffering that lasted for centuries
The Irish also have blood from the Celts of northern Spain, such as Asturias or Galicia ... etc
My full blooded little sister and our Father both each did a ancestry DNA testing. I was amazed to know that from our dad were Irish, 4 kinds of African and Iberian (and apparently that's from Spain) as well as many other races listed, it's still amazing. And I didn't know I was French and German, and Scandinavian. Makes ya proud of your heritage and knowing where ya come from somewhere down along the line.
Why do we think our ancestors were primitive based on cave painting? Could it be that some random person from the ancient past painted the cave while seeking shelter? If Picasso paintings were the only thing surviving our civilization it would probably perceived by future discoverer that our art was very primitive and our eye-hand coordination underdeveloped!?
my maternal haplogroup is U5b2c. I'm a Quigley by birth. My DNA says I come from North Africa the berber people, the Spanish Basque, French, German, Scandinavian from the indigenous saami people of the laplands, Mostly Irish, British and Scottish. Related to the Cheddar man and a Chinese Eurasian government official named Hong Yu. I find it all very fascinating.
then I had s friend tell me people who are B positive you're a descendant of Ghenis Khan. i have no idea.
Kimberly Bates haplogroup? I took a test for ethnicity...but it didn't answer squat. Do hologroups help a lot more?
"British and Scottish"? Scotland is part of Britain. It's funny how most Americans don't seem to know that. Wales is also part of Britain.
Cheshire Cat
Haplogroup Info does help more.
23andMe.com will give you your Haplogroup.
But Ancestry.com stopped giving it out in 2014.
Not sure of the other companies.
Cheddar Man - Debunked
/watch?v=V690mntZD7A
My grandfather was a Black Welshman& my mom's RhOneg... My great uncle's on that side is W.F.Libby the inventer of Carbon dating. We have Welsh, Irish Scottish, German& French. MyGrt Grandpa20 times removed is Anjou Plantagenet house Edward1 through his 8th daughter Elizabeth just on my Mom's Willard F. Libby's side! That's just one line that runs to Royalty. I've been told& haven't researched it yet that we have a few more lines that run to other Royals houses. I love geneology researching is fascinating!
All Europeans have royal relations. Twenty generations ago is pretty distant, and many, or most, Europeans will have closer royal relatives. People have even more trailer trash relations, and much closer in time, yet no one ever brags about it. Funny.
Great music at the end!
Good show!
I'm 3rd gen. American Irish. Our family is from near Inchigeela, Contae Corcaigh.
Basque and south stripe of France where the great caves are.
Kaixo! greetings to Zlata the Golden, from Mostar... Tá scamalach!
my dad had dark curly hair, blue eyes and olive complexion. I'm a ginger, curly wavy hair,blue eyes and snow white.
Kimberly Bates Your dad sounds black Irish...that's what i am...
Kimberly Bates My whole Irish line had the same complexion. Dark hair, blue eyes and olive complexion. We also don't burn, like the stereotype Irish do. We tan.
I think you're just Trolling - people swallow it.
Kay Loveblacks
being Irish, he was probably pickled.
You're a great interviewer. Very interested in your work.
My surname is Clinch . My great grandfather was from Ireland . They migrated to Montana and every Clinch / Clench I have ever met here in the states ends up being related to me.
You mostly see your surname in New York, Florida and Georgia. Perhaps you all are related
I have mostly Irish blood but look a lot like our old Chinese mailman.
@Nacho He meant it as a joke. Like he looks a lot like the milkman, but not his dad.
timber_beast bha🙃
What a brilliant woman
I am too who is he
My dad is from Co Clare
16:00 I don't think that humans have lived in Wales for 700,000 years and unable to to make a ⛵ to sail to Ireland, especially when (as she said) Ireland is visible from Wales on a clear day. Think of the way that the population could go from scarce to densely populated in 1 or 2 millennia. How could it keep growing for 700,000 years without poeple finding a way to get to much needed land. The numbers are agenda oriented. We don't have any reason to believe them.
A key thing we're leaving out is a land mass called Doggerland. Before the ice melted 9000 years ago France and Denmark were connected to the British Isles. The survivors who didn't mix kept the R1b y-chromosone.
Mike Semon R1b came more recently from the Pontic caspian steppe around 4000-5000 years ago.
We Irish reject having our country described within the nomenclature "british".
Irish Celts have much DNA in common with the Iberian peninsula differing significantly to other Celtic groups found in Britain/France/ Central Europe. Clearly there was a distinct branching off of a common Celtic ancestral grouping, somewhere on the European mainland, thousands of years ago.
I am 24% Irish ,25% British and 100% Icelandic. My grandfather was dark,so I figured he must be a Black Irish.
krystal kitty
black ice
english, dutch, irish, german, powhantan native american on fathers side and 100% portuguese from the azors on mothers side
My family name goes back to 400BC and jews from Galicia Spain. Our name was changed to Chavez from the word llaves so the king who had a speech impediment could pronounce it. My family moved to Mexico and New Mexico almost 100 years before the pilgrims arrived in America because of the inquisition and I recently found out to my surprize that we are R1B1 also.
Sal Chavez Why do people always think the Pilgrims were the first Europeans in America...Jamestown...The Virginia Company was the first and they were not pilgrims....
ok probably because the first settlements failed miserably and thereafter many of the few people who could actually be convinced to emigrate to the new colony were pilgrims etc... it took a certain Methodist stoicism to make it in the new land! The pioneers had it rough all right! A lot of blood, sweat and tears went into building America!
ok ie... they were the first to settle properly!
Actually the Spaniards were the first Europeans ( St. Augustine, Fla.)
We are all spinning around on this big blue ball. Let's share and repair relationships. No one deserves more. Reciprocity + respect all as living beings. Nature maintains a balance. We are all connected ... past, present, and future.
my family is the armstrongs and yes johnnie armstrong is granddad going back in time father to father lol
my uncle Patrick Hayes always said we were moors who went to spain and came to Ireland.
Your uncle is wrong I’m afraid, no evidence of berber dna in Ireland, the ‘Atlantean theory’ of Bob Quinn was based on a hunch of his that Irish Christianity was closer to Coptic Christianity. His theories have long since been debunked.
Rudy M I do believe the tribes of Israel are mixed and consist of basque, Berber, indigenous Egyptians and more
Michael Smith can you explain?
@@imanimuckeroy2306 He means more so that the ethnic Jews of the Levant migrated to other regions at one point such as North Africa, Europe, etc. That's why you find Basques, Irish, Berbers and some Egyptians that look very similar to modern day Ashkenazi Jews. They have one of the least amount of mixture compared to other Jews so they still retain a lot of Middle eastern genetics. Eyes: Blue & Hazel, Aquiline nose, Long oval head (dolichocephalic), Short to medium stature, rare neurological & physiological diseases.
3rd Generation Irish American and I'm curious if the blood disorder, Factor 5, has a connection to the "Celtic diabetes." Hormonal birth control is an issue w Factor 5. Mom's DNA was 80% Irish Dad is almost at 60%...
In the Bible, you don't trace the line through the father, only the mother.
Christ came in the name of his father, but the genetic bloodline of the mother.
In the Bible, the mothers of the kings are given, as kings at the time had many wives so that the name of the mother was important.
irishgirl
not always...
the god of abraham isaac and jacob for example
Any truth o the Boch saga on u tube?
nobody dislikes the irish???? my goodness!
being a generalisation of course but Irish have a reputation of being hospitable and friendly and I found that in Ireland.
690 thousand years - we were predominately still part of our origination.
Imagine the fear of water travel. Not to say there won't be a plethora of bone findings yet to come, but the greater influence will be in the originating people's - potentially "Etruscans- Iberian- Basque"
+Judgement Day
Are you testing or trolling?
Judgement Day
1) The Basque
2) Trolling - the act of "baiting" for the desire to create drama, associated with the Narcissist, their desire to feed from the energies of the reactions to their baits.
Reference/see definition of - Narcissist Personality Disorder
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An American born Basque Irish R1B andRh (-) as is my son and was my husband.
Lineage of County Kerry and Cork.
i share genetic with the sardinian n the Basque I'm also RH- we are the original family of GOD ABRAHAM SEED I'm a dark person my parents from Puerto rico but our BLOOD IS ROYAL GOD KEEP US SAFE FOR A TIME LIKE THIS IF YOU GUY'S WANT TO DO YOUR RESEARCH WITH ME U MORE THEN WELCOME 2
I took a test on Myheritage and it said I am 78% Irish and British, 12% Jewish, 10% Iberian and 2% East European. But I also do geneoalgy and I have found Basque, Native American, Sicilian, French and Welsh. The test is just a roadmap...it doesn't mean the percentages are correct. I look very Medditranian and what the girls from Israel look. I don't look as Irish as the test said.
Cheshire Cat You look like a sea?
That adds up to 102% lol 78% + 12% = 90% + 10% = 100% + 2% = 102%
Cheshire Cat ..........lol, homegirl you autta see me. "African American" my azz.
There is no such a thing as British genes. Those test results are delerious
I took ancestry’s test and it has me as 69% Irish, 14% Western Europe and the rest basically a few percentages of different European regions. I also look “Mediterranean”. I have very dark eyes, curly dark hair and olive skin. Everyone always assumes I’m Italian or Greek, even Arabic. It’s interesting. I don’t look “Irish” either I guess but I am! 😊
Our surname is we thought Danish we've been American for a long time turns out the name is also very Irish DNA time I guess its only about 100.00 dollars
paul1x1 so what you find?
My family is 100% Norwegian west cost yet my dna group is Ireland and western Scotland
You descend back to British slaves during the Viking age.
Present! USA - Mom was 100% Irish -
G Grandparents from Co Kerry, (Murphy and Sullivan), Grandfather's (her dad) Lynch - family founded Lynchburg, VA - mid-later 1700's (DAR) Daughters of the American Revolution (Very Few Irish!!!!!!!!!)
And my dad app 50% Irish, (w German/Dutch, and American Indian - Cherokee, Tennessee)
I received the greater influence of Irish and a bit of Iberian influences - as I'm mistaken for Russian ALL THE TIME by Russians.
Blonde with red hair and Olive Green Eyes.
"When Irish Eyes are Smilin' ..."
+Viking Shredder American Indian Warrior
I am an American born Irish -
ha - what the beck ya supposed to say - oh I'm just an American white girl
and I love the Judgement guy "Narcissist statement" -
ahhhhh .
Like they do a gene exchange at birth over here -
lol - try to tell that to my Mother and Grandparent -
roflmbo!
Yeah - funny.
Beth Bartlett Ok, sorry to burst part of your bubble but... Lynch is a German/British name. More than likely one of the Nobles who followed William of Orange over for promised Land which began the great "Cullings or Cleansings" of the true Welsh, Irish and Scots who were then sold into slavery, indentured servitude or prison labor such as Australia.
This would have given him status as a British citizen here in the Colonies for the land, thus Lynchburg. Also, no pure blooded Irish were allowed in the original Daughter's of the American Revolution because they were still considered lower than black slaves by most even though many fought for the Revolution.
Many Irish and Scots were conscripted into British military for the war and once here, ran off with various Indian tribes and married within many of them.
As for being mistaken for Russian, not an Iberian/Basque trait. This to is also from the German aspect of your ancestry. Sorry, but true.
Hopefully from your mother's side you have the Rh- blood that is an Iberian/Basque trait.
Regardless, enjoy life and good wishes.
+Viking Shredder American Indian Warrior im up north, we irish call it north of lreland mo chara
Way too many American's think they are Irish from colonial times, the REAL Irish didn't land in America until 1840 onward long after the revolution the irish you think you are are Ulster Scots who built America along with the germans dutch and English! this irritates me as the Irish did nothing for America except flood the country which was ALREADY made for them!
Funny - the Scots WERE Irish! "Ulster Scots" means Irishman from Irish Ulster. Pmsl.
That explains Dads red curly hair.
Irish, Scottish, Welch, Cornish are very closely related. my gggf Ritherford paddled a boat from Denmark Holland area to Scotland in the year 800 his people were known as the Kings of the sea. My other gggf Alexander Alistar Og McDonnel was from Ireland in the 1100s but lived and owned a group of islands on the north west coast of Scotland and their clan was know as Kings of the Islands ?
Stephen that's really some cool stuff I love reading your comment. I had one grandfather from Italy and one grandfather from Scotland the names in my family are Johnson, Jones, and Campbell. I only show the mitochondrial DNA from my mother. My grandfather from Italy was French.
Very interesting..my Scottish grandmothers Maiden name was Holland...that makes me wonder. Thank you for that snipit of info!
Irish, Scottish, Basque, Slavic...
are all one family hence their history of defense wars, similar music, and dance, same pagan beliefs traditions...Different languages were strategically created and enforced over centuries of domination of different oppressive imperial forces.
The person in the light brown looks almost identical to me.
O negative, 53 percent irish 37 percent greek and Italian 7 percent European and 1 percent Scandinavian :)
O negative, 53 percent irish ,Scottish and Welsh. 37 percent greek and Italian. 7 percent Belgium, France Germany Netherlands Switzerland ,Luxembourg, Liechtenstein. 1 percent coucasus,1 percent British.
My mother was a Mc Manaman and her Mother was a Higgins...I am 50% Irish, 25% German and 25 % Norwegian...What can you tell me? I am also A+ blood type if that helps any...
hahaha - they don't understand the definition of "Black Irish" - beautiful people - aren't they!?!
Beth Bartlett black Irish is an American term , there is really no such thing as black Irish
I was wondering what she would say because I have heard that, but a red headed Boston Irish lady got mad at me when I repeated it to her. She said her relative married a Black Irish man. But I still thought she was wrong.
Black Irish is just an urban legend, it seems. Or disinfo. The woman who had a Black Irish relative, so she thought, told me it meant dark hair, brown eyes and darker skin.
Black Irish is an American term, it is an urban legend, it is about color, but not about race. In the 1947 movie "Lady from Shanghai" Orson Welles (white man) says he is Black Irish. It's got nothing to do with being treated black, hardly anybody in the US knew the Irish were treated so bad. Even now our media denies it. Americans believe many weird things about other whites because our leaders are Jews and they write all kinds of crazy things.
+Judgement Day
You are spreading a crock of ridiculous nonsense - it is simply - a complication that tolerates the sun better - has darker eyes and hair - and it is NOT a racial biased reference at all -
Google it genius trouble maker -
The Spanish King with a lisp story , is just that, a story , a myth , tangled up with dialects, Catalan vs Castilian miscommunication, not to mention Arabic linguistic tendencies during the Moorish occupation of Iberia. This is" the "urban legend that just keeps on giving ! Sorry ,didnt want to get into a back and forth with certain people down below. thanks
I just found out my last name is irish
Where does O Positive blood come from?
O'Riley, O' Blenis etc.
Name of McKenzie reply back
at 16 mins in...who were the woman ancestors from? very important info not to include
We concentrate here on the 'Y' DNA (male DNA), the female DNA testing (mtDNA) is not as useful for genealogical tracing in the short term usually, but is another aspect of DNA for longer time periods.
Collins, Dundalk Co.louth
and AB negative :-)
Mishe Cool
Don't tell (-) blood, on line - it's thought to be targeted -
Be safe, GO IRISH!
+Beth Bartlett yes beth your right our blood is golddust, apartnely its alien blood lol
+Judgement Day its a european blood type that not many ppl have anywere in the world l personally think its the link to prove we didnt all come out of africa but our own ancestors were a tribe here in europe
Mishe Cool Cu Chullain of the Tuathe De Dannan
Mishe Cool Collins are from cork originally ;)
from y'all interpretation on this subject in the connection FROM The Bible 👍
The reason is not the Cengiz Khan , but there are under ground tunnels both side of black sea towards Scotland , and it is known today , that the structure of clothes found on central asian white mumies is totaly the same with today's Scotish clothing . There are also many white people found in Siberia- Altai mountains Kurgans , where Chinese chronics say Turks were living as miner slaves of Mongols ...Chinese chronics says Turks got out of Siberia down to central Asia and mixed with central asian groups , but some of Turks went to North directly .
The first turks came from many alpins (finno ugorics) who emigrated to central asia from central europe 12 milenium ago. Those alpins mixed of some amerindians (white and non mongoloid) in central asia and then turkish race appeared. Mongols have come from the mixing of another amerindians and other mongoloids. Cengiz khan was a mongol, not a turk, but in the population of its empiror, turks were much more than mongols. The Turks who don't want to join this union have emigrated from central asia.
The Black Irish? Just a wild thought: Jews, booted out of Spain. Some were sold to Muslims, who might just have sold them in Ireland. It would explain the myth of the Spanish Armada.
Tuatha de Daanan. The tribe of Dan...Israelites...Irish
Please don't be saying that Dan was a white Irish? 12 Tribes of Israel all black. Dan black. Deuteronomy 28:68 not up for debate likewise Genesis 15:13-15 not up for debate. Get ready to realise how the heritage has been stolen. Black people (Hebrews) Erie. Biggest cover up in all history get facts.
Maggie Porco DANube, LonDON, DENmark, etc...
The REAL IS(is)-RA-ELites are a mixed group of people from a previous global civilization (Atlanteans) and NO they were not all black. Stop with your bullshit, this is why no one takes you seriously with your "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIEEET" nonsense, if your more evolved ancestors were to see the fall from grace your melanin rich brothers and sisters have taken they would be fucking ashamed to say the least...And no I'm not "white"/Anglo-Saxon before (or if) you make a stupid comment...
Sonya McRae it's spelled Eíre
Sonya McRae quoting the English old testament is your ultimate downfall. The old testament has been translated in 6 different languages before it was transferred in old english. Hebrew texts shows tribes color as "admoni", which reddish brown of skin. Clearly this is not black nor white. My research tells me that are the modern day Palestinians and jordanians, possibly even Armenian "pre European migration". I'm not saying blacks aren't important, or whites. Every tribe had their role. And that role in no way shape or form makes you who you are today. Rwmember, Even angels fell from grace. So this "who is the true israelite" debate is pointless. I hope you find your way. God bless.
No such term as black Irish exist but only to the Americans. Why?
In the late 1800's my grandfather's parents left Europe, specifically Basque. Their name was Guevara, aka Gebara. They were lower nobles, Ramon, my great grandfather was the grandson of Ana, Duchess of Boniva. Nobles were not liked at that time. My grandfather's family first fled to Argentina where we found census records with my grandfather's name as a 5 year old boy, then my grandfather & his brother migrated to Mexico and found census records there when he was 35 already married to my grandmother. My grandmother's family came from Spain, also late 1800. My father was a mestizo Mexican (part European part Native American). So I took my DNA test, I'm 42% Irish, 14% Great Britain, 5% Swede and only 20% Spanish. Where is the Basque? I'm only 19% Native Indian from Mexico. I'm Mexican, shouldn't I be more Spanish and Indian?
Not really...I have known many "Mexicans" in the US whose families were of German descent with names like Kreuger and Schumacher and Kirchner...In fact, there are YT videos of Mennonites in the state of Chihuahua who are a vital community and maintain VERY white marriage patterns...check them out on YT...search for "Mennonites in Mexico"...it's fascinating....And remember that the former president of Mexico was "Vicente Fox" whose father was originally "Fuchs" from the US and his mother was of European descent. So not every "Mexican" is a mestizo of any racial configuration.
theres no such thing as 14% great Britain .
Total liberal EU mythology tailored to erase the Celts, Indo-Europeans from history. Genetics proves the Irish like much of the English are descended from Celts whose origin lies on the Pontic Steppe. This is also the source of R1b- which up to 90% of Irish carry with 49% of Bashkirs carrying the same. This indicates conclusively a common origin for Indo Europeans between the Caucasus & the Urals. Genetic evidence confirms what linguists have said all along, that the P & Q Celtic languages all trace back to Proto Indo European along with Latin, Russian, Tocharian etc.
@@scramble2880 White means english, you know, real white, white white, not polish, not italians, not spaniards, not irish, not greek and of course not polish.
Ptd: not even finnish
@@juanmanuel3168 Germans and Swede not white either then?
Not basque but spanish, basques are exactly the same as rest of spanish, DNA R1bborn in the north of Spain hundrdes thousands years ago, our clans crossed northwards the Pyrennies to first inhabitate the rest of Europe after glacial ages, most westerners descend from spanish, and in some countries mixed with the germanic pole, but still the average DNA code for an european westener is R1b, SPANISH RACE.
I agree. Anyone who knows history, the Spanish Empire did spread their genes far and wide. In fact, Mexican is a nationality; Mexicans are Mestiso - the Spanish did a number on the Indigenous. Filipinos are also Mestiso - the Spanish conguered those islands too. And a lot of the Natives of North America - also have Spanish DNA.
black irish? i get confused for a Mexican during summer my family were scott irish English decents remember reading something about black celts?
BASQUES ARE NOT CELTS!!!
Not exactly, the current basques are a mix of the ancestral vascones and celts, anyway basques are R1b like the majority of spanish and irish, celts were a culture not a race, by the way a culture born in Spain not in Hallstat or Tene, that the celtic is a culture born in Spain is even affirmed by the lingüitic researchers from University of Bolonia (Italy), the oldest University in Europe, they affir with no doubt that for instance celtic languages were born in Spain.
@@enriquepascual8767 You know your stuff. Basques are Celtic (R1b) on their paternal line but are far more ancient on their maternal lines. I do also agree that Celtic culture originated in Northern Spain. Still to this day Galicians, Asturians and Basques still use the bagpipes. Definitely don't see that anymore in Southern Germany, Austria, or Switzerland.
"Black Irish" is unheard of in Ireland, its only a yankee term. I assume it to mean Irish who are of a sallower complection which is very nearly almost none of us. And the ones that are would not pass for Sicilians....
Lots of definitions for the term "Black Irish" including hair and eye color; someone who holds different political views..... and historically the Vikings were described by some as invaders who were dark Irish perhaps referring to their actions... and of course survivors of the Spanish Armada shipwreck - but that is limited due to the small number of survivors.... Seems the folks on the west coast are familiar with the term for several generations, i.e. in Galway...(as interviewed in the movie)
Quite - its rubbish. Its the British who are mixed. The "Scottish" have people from all over the world in their make up: www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/15/scotland-dna-study-project
@john patrick - that article is a lot of spiel. The Scots are not more admixed than the Irish or British. In fact the West Scots are the closest population to the Irish dna wise. That article is drawing a long bow based on ydna and not very scientific.
Jimbobjim jim I have heard that expression and exclusively from Irish people. My father and all his family were from east Cork. He had dark curly hair and a dark complexion. I'm not a geneticist, but saying that such a "type" doesn't exist is untrue.
I have an uncle by marriage who is 100% of Irish immigrant background to Canada...with BLACK curly hair and red beard with freckles all over his face...
she moves from Bosnia to Ireland (eventually) because of the war? lol?
Irish women love the bbc
The Irish are not basques, they genetically are closer to North West Europeans than Southern Europeans.
Black Irish?
Denis Long dark hair dark eyes. Not skin.
Moors
Take a test. There is a Moor on YT who had both her DNA and Family tree done. She found out she's got her black skin just 4 generations ago. She's crying in the video. 75% European.
Black irish were vikings
Well the Irish called them black!
Arabic African tribal blood in true Irish roots , Celts are not all of here was and they are extremely arabic influenced
So now you want to create Sharia Law in Ireland. Arabs are brown eyed, black haired, and dirk skinned. Irish are red/blond haired, green, blue eyed, with fair skin.