I have a failed fusion l5 S1 in 1992 and have been suffering ever since. This story is so similar the Dr. denied that anything else was wrong. Later they figured out that they mis read my MRI and all I had was a pulled muscle.. Now I am tread like a criminal due to the pain meds I have been on. I am so hopeless now that I am just on gabapentin. My pain haunts me day and night. sever sciatic pain. Thanks for your video I hope people really think about surgery before undergoing the knife. I was 27 yrs old and have been permanently disable ever since.
Try Topomax instead of gabapentin. It helped me. Start very slowly. 12.5 mg at night and work up to 200 mg bid. Positive side effect it helps you lose weight instead of gain weight.
@@milekrizman sciatic pain usually does go across the butt cheek and down the leg. I have severe pain from sciatic pain everyday after having failed fusion from L4/5 & L5/S1 fusions. Both failed. Was told from 5 different surgeons that nothing more can be done! Been stuck in bed for a year now. I’m on pain pump with fentanyl now and still in severe pain. No relief.
Excellent video, with excellent reporting. I have laminectomey some 50 years ago. Ret law enforcement now 71 had fall now groin pain into both thighs buttocks can’t walk far burning pain I have also T 11,12, fractures Cervical 5,6,7 done spurs Nuro advised pars fracture to L4/5 S 1 needs cage with done in. I am very worried now waiting for operation but with all the of the above I am very concerned now.
I watched "the spine guy channel" and thank goodness I did. Highly recommend, very conservative recommendations. Recovering from a L4/5 cortisone injection and trying to avoid surgery. Feel better!
@@Just_MHO_thomasinacortisone injections can cause adhesive arachnoiditis. a lifelong soul crushing condition. not worth the risk for temporary relief. this affliction happens more often than the medical community wants to admit and most cases are undiagnosed. those reading this PLS avoid any kind of injection into the spine at all costs.
I wish you were closer to Los Angeles. I’ve been living with UNBELIEVABLE pain after failed C2 to T1, anterior/posterior surgeries in 2012. Everything you mention for this man resonates with me. I’ve tried everything including swimming, acupuncture, massage, etc. 4 neurosurgeon consults... life just isn’t worth living anymore.... waiting for a nerve test to be approved. There’s nothing else and I can’t get my insurance to approve the psych testing for a spinal cord stimulator.... sigh...
Dr. I can tell you how much your candid attitude lifted my sprits and the no “BS” call. Like a referee at a basket ball game, you see a foul or out-of-bounds activity, you call it out! As a 6’3” Farm kid the grew 7” at age 11, I was always given a man’s chores and worked my behind off as everyone else was younger or stepfather & his dad, sat in the truck and had beer while I did all of the chores for 1.5 hrs. or longer if cold. Either way, I knew only hard work with no allowance. My mechanical aptitude was everything, apprenticed at a good 2 man shop, honed my skills. I went 25 miles to the city to have benefits. I went right into a dealership and took test my boss asked for an was awarded ASE Master certification. Years later at 28, a shop tried hard to get me to quit and work for them. I did. They built a gas station/shop on a hill and did not pack the dirt. A slab of concrete sunk 8” and the three techs (Including myself) cut 2X8’s at a slant to be able to drive a normal car into and out of the shop. The boss lost his case and bought a huge backhoe and found out I could run it. Removed concrete and down 4 feet so drain pipe could be fixed. It rained in late summer. They put tarps over it then removed to dry. Two weeks or so passed and my boss asked me to run the rented earth compaction machine. I said no and argued for 20+ minutes. My pay per hour went way up and I am running this gas engine, that jumps up & down. The dry soil turned to mud, picked it up and drug it to a new location. Same problem. I knocked it over after 5 hours, locked my tool box and went home with a sore back. I woke up with the sensation of the worse sunburn I ever had. I had a surgeon with 30+ years and after laminectomy, mylogram and dropped in screaming pain. Now the fall and 29 years old. He took donor bone from hip and explained what became true. (R.I.P. / Nice guy) He told me out of 5 major muscle groups, I tore three of them near the bottom. He said these are scar tissue. 20 years pass and had a fusion using the “Harrington” procedure with pedestal screws, bars and bracket five year before. No longer could work bad elbow, torn rotator cuff, just a sum total too much. About 2 years later, dorsal nerves trapped in scar tissue and burns after bending to wash hands or work at the bench. Had an RF oblation but low, 3 bilateral. It became worse and come on quicker, but an L3-L2 epidural eliminated the pain and burning twice. Same 2005 Doc. got in and did not like what he saw. He did a good job but have the screws in S1-L5-L4-L3 and won’t go higher for the obvious reasons. Going back to have an epidural at the L3-L2 again, but if good, the only thing I can do is radio frequency nerve oblation that may help a little because it’s been soo long. Repeat again every two years or more. I can’t sit on my butt, and I have to bend for everything. Just want to stand like a man at 62, and walk to my mailbox without my abnormal long cain. I hope this works as quality of life has dropped to #2 w/10 excellent. I want to get off hydromorphone 8mg X 4 (Was 5 for 6 years) & diazepam 10mg X 4. It helps but for 20-40 minutes, then tick-tacs. Anyone reading this after April 30th, 2021. If asked by work to do heavy work, even if you are built like a bull. 28-30 is your peak!!! Stop, say no, walk away and quit if need be. It is not worth it! There are other jobs, could be hard at first, but better than a lifetime of being young and looking like your 85 years old, in pain. It is really hard to cut your caloric intake from 2,000 to 500 calories per day. In pain, you can’t burn calories so you gain weight. 5 lbs. per month X 12 = What? 160 lbs. 170 lbs.? Now close to diabetic, heart problems 25 years early! Don’t do it ever. You look after you! Know-one else will. I can’t mow my own yard. Takes 4 tries and this year, no garden! First time ever. Sad, but life is hard, don’t make it harder! I am P. O.! Omaha.
Hope you feel better eventually man, I hear you. Very sad and fcked up world out there. I wish I wasn't such a working horse through my 20s and then got rear ended by some idiot who wasn't paying attention at 40mph. It's crazy to think that these ppl can get to Mars, but can't help those who are in need of relieving their back pain. Hope you're well, hang in there and great advice to young guys out there.
@@RolandElliottFirstG I think my maternal grandfather told me that “Hard Work Will Get You Everything!” I am not sure if he mentioned when to start or how hard to work! All I know is, they spent sometime at a small garage drinking from a jug with 3 X’s on it. lol. Have a good Thanksgiving for 2021. I am waiting for spinal electrodes at the L1 level. Live lumbar nerves trapped in scar tissue that use to be muscles. The Dr. in 1987 told me that much. Hoping for 50% or more relief so I can bend (6’3” tall) and walk like mowing my yard without a cane. Even to get the mail. 3 epidurals where perfect but lasted 1 1/2 day with non-particulate steroids. Fingers crossed as few Dr’s do not want Medicare patients.
@@RolandElliottFirstG Wow, you are tall and we are both living in a 5’2” world. My lumber burning only after bending started over 11 years ago. Been getting worse and more becomes more intense as the day progresses. Now in my early 60’s, I have a lot to do and have no intention to stop now! I will keep you and everyone in my prayers. Someone always has it worse but how much will you mind let you take. I look at things I want to do in my garage and cry. It wears you down. I tell myself to keep going, just to get one thing done. I refuse to watch my neighbor mow his yard as I have to use a cane! I have to keep cardio, muscles even though my son would do it. I couldn’t sit and watch TV all day, unless real sick, that would be torture! Best of luck.
Very sad. There are incompetent doctors in many places, but this patient has clearly had one of the worst. I hope he can be seen buy a team of doctors that can repair or at least reduce the damage. Whoever did this to him should face criminal neglect charges and no longer be allowed to do any surgery.
100% agree!! And it is not as simple or straightforward as it should be! It’s a really really long in-depth journey of research to find an excellent surgeon whom you can trust. I’ve watched hours of UA-cam on surgeries, education, and testimonials. So glad I found Dr. Spiro Antonaides on here. I contacted him several years ago and he did a very complicated cervical spine surgery for me and he will be doing my L5 S1 surgery as well
@@mickypoole9226 yes. I would rather avoid but I’ve done that already for too many years. So, taking the leap of faith and hoping it improves my quality of daily living. Pain is so grinding.
Wow, this has got to be Canada!!! So sorry for this young man. I completely empathize with what you’ve had to go through. I really hope you’ve found help and are doing better now. I’m going through a very similar situation with a botched fusion, been trying to navigate our joke of a medical system since 2018. Same deal, Surgeon refuses to take accountability, and all other Surgeons that have assessed me refuse to help . I’ve went to NYC, and Germany on my own $ seeking help. Had half the revision surgery I need in Germany , now I can’t afford any more personal loans. Sent my images to multiple institutes in the states and Germany and they all agree the hardware is misplaced, screws , cage and all. It all Needs to come out in order to heal. They refuse to acknowledge that here, help me , or send me to someone that will help me. It’s beyond hopeless and frustrating. I don’t know what to do at this point. I’m only 29 and just want my life back.
Hang in. Be careful of blood pressure and sleep deprivation. Chronic Pain that is severe can cause heart attacks and strokes. It can cause suicidal depression. Sleep deprivation affects mood too. All the best to you. Hope you got some relief.
Hello Penny how are you? have you found help for your health problem ? Where do you live, have you seen doctors in Texas? I am having my surgery on the 17 and I am terrified but the pain I go through on a daily basis is out of control. the neurosurgeon here in Texas seems like he has a heart compassion for humans. If you like I can share your story with him and see what happens?. I hope you are ok considering the circumstances. God bless you ! 🙌
hello Penny. I just got my fusion done on the 17th of this month. right now I'm at the rehab and I'm supposed to leave back home on 12 /02 on. can tell you that these surgeries from my personal experience were the worst pain that I have ever experienced throughout my whole life. nothing that I would say will changed their mind or even feel my pain through my explanation. still on rehabilitation and recuperating, I don't really have strength to talk or to say anything else other than I'll be back in a few weeks and give you a more detail explanation. to help how you know how my surgery is going one thing that I dId notice right away, you know like when we holding our phones and typing I feel like my fingers are doing their own thing and typing for me, before I even touch them key pad. like they are tweaking . and I don't know if is something related to the surgery but I'm assuming it is. I'm going to talk about that with my surgeon next time when I go for a follow-up. other than that right now that's about as much as I can tell you and I'm hoping that after I heal well first I'm hoping that I will heal without complications no infections and no relapse and then my second desire is that I will notice with my daily activities if the surgery really got me stronger and pain free from that specific health problem that I have thank you
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’m a young Canadian woman who also had a bad lumbar fusion at Mississauga hospital in Canada, the trillian spine institute is supposed to be one of the”our best”, but the cocky know-it-all young surgeon I had, (Dr. Jhas for anyone watching in Canada) ignored my concerns and gaslit me, tried to say my emergency revision surgery was “as unnecessary precaution”, refused to make time to book my 6 month follow up for 11 months, at which point the hardware had set in the wrong place. I have been considering going back to Germany, where I lived in 2019, for a third revision surgery to have the hardware removed, I’m curious to know where you went for consultations and what kind of rates they were quoting you to perform the surgery? Wishing you all the best in your healing journey, I’m saying a prayer for you now to find relief. I hope things have finally started to turn around for you, solidarity sister🙏🏻❤️
This is very scary. I had a fusion @ L4/L5 where they came in from my right side. They only put a bracket on this side which would probably be ok but the spacer that they put is metallic and my new doctor can’t see if the bone graft took or not. No bone graft on outside part of fusion. The reason I got a new doctor is because I still have pain and even have new additional pain. All my doctors involved believe that L5/S1 failed shortly after surgery. First doctor had me get a round of shots to be sure that was the problem but then just threw his hands up and said that there was nothing he can do except for a pain stimulator so I went see a neurosurgeon. He got me going to three months of therapy and then surgery to fuse L5/S1 and tie in L4/L5 on my left side with additional bone graft. I’m praying for a miracle that I won’t need the surgery but I am doubtful. When I woke up from my first surgery my right leg was completely dead. No feeling or control whatsoever. You could have amputated it and I wouldn’t have felt it. The feeling and movement slowly came back and that was like the most painful dead leg I ever had. That’s why I think my first doctor is scared to work on me anymore. He said I had bad arthritis and ligaments and the bone was too brittle. I don’t think he was being honest at all. He went from being one of the nicest doctors to being completely distant. I’m tired of being on pain meds and being in pain all the time and I’m hearing horror stories with that pain stimulator.
How long ago was the fusion? I had fusion at 4/5 and I wasn’t looking at the 11 month X-ray because mine failed to fix pain- there’s no bone around the metal spacer. Maybe there’s bone inside it.. I’m just wondering if they do the surgeries different now. Maybe they don’t remove enough of the disc for the bone to connect the vertebral bodies. I’m just theorizing
Went through the same crap after my first fusion, their even suggested I see a psychiatrist.. I found a REAL Doctor here ( not US) who fixed it as well as he could, replaced the infected screws and installed a cage to support the screws.. I am pretty ok now...
I have a surgeon here in Toronto, Canada, Dr. Jhas of Trillium Spine Center, that has been “so busy” that I’m still trying to get in for my “6 month follow-up” 11 months later, and I fear I have a hardware issue because of new shooting nerve pain in the opposite leg and ongoing chronic pain around the hardware site of a different quality than originally. Unfortunately, in Canada we have such a critical shortage of surgeons that you have to wait a year just to get the first consultation, and another year for surgery (more if it’s not “urgent”), so if feels hopeless if you need to have revision surgery done to correct work in a time sensitive window. I’ve already had one revision surgery due to infection obtained in the hospital, what happens if you have hardware out of alignment during the healing process and you wait t too long to fix it? Thank you for these videos, it really helps to be informed, and to see there are surgeons out there than are such compassionate patient advocates 🙏🏻
That’s crazy. Do you have socialized medicine in Canada? In the United States, I was able to see my spine surgeon within two weeks and part of why it took so long is my work schedule so I had to make the appointment for the following week. I hope you get some relief. Back pain is miserable. It wears people down physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Honestly after seeing this I no longer feel that my lumbar spine is that bad and I’m greatful for having only one fusion revision and 4 other lumbar surgical procedures dealing with herniated disc and stenosis issues, I do have some pain issues, but over all my spine is stable but complex as far as treatment of symptoms , and I’d rather be me than him!!
I work in construction and I can see the big mistakes. I don't need to be a doctor in other to see that , I've been watching MRI in lumbar discs for couples days . Poor kid , I feel sorry for him
2008 L4_L5 disc herniated, 1 failed Epidural injection. 2 failed SPINAL BLOCKS , WALACE IMPLANT IN 2008 . WAS SUPPOSED TO REDUCE MASSIVE PAIN I WAS MAXED OUT ON FENANL. AND OXCONTION . ... DURING OPERATION NEUROSURGERY DRILLED OUT NERVE ROOT, VERTIBRA TO REDUCE PAIN ,,, IN SIATIC NERVE RIGHT HAND SIDE .... FAILURE ... IMPLANT COLLAPSED , IT WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST 25 YEARS , 2009 SAME DOCTOR OPENED ME UP AGAIN TH SAME QUACK ! OF A DR DID SAME PROCEDURE-AGAIN REMOVING more Bone from VERTEBRA L4_L5 .... AGAIN EPIC FAILURE OF IMPLANT COLLAPSED IN ONTOP OF ITS SELF ... THEN I WAS LEFT IN PAIN FOR 12 MONTHS BETWEEN SEPSIS - KIDNEY DISEASE DIABETES AND CHRONIC HEART DISEASE DUE TO A FAILD MICRODISECTOMY 2011, CAUSED A CAUDIA EQUINA SYNDROME. 2011 . IN HOSPITAL FOR CHRISTMAS...2013 NEW MAN . DID GOOD JOB FINALLY RESEARCHED THE DOCTOR.... GOT A FULL SPINAL FUSION . . LIVE WITH FAILD BACK SYNDROME AND CAUDIA EQUINA. AGED 44 . PAIN 4 REST OF MY LIFE , UNTIL I GET THE COVID-19 .... ILL BE CHECKING OUT ....
That is staggering I am a carpenter and i would ashamed if i failed to hit my mark that badly with a screw its staggering, I also have a fairly rare and interesting spine condition that started as the result of a 40ft cliff fall in 1970 at the age of aged 15 years old, I sustained a compression fracture dislocation of my lumber spine Dislocated the lower 3 cracked the 3rd in 3 places and compression fracture between 3rd and 4th, I had almost no neurological deficit at the time; and have had no surgery it all self fused, I had a fall in 2015 broke 5 ribs and a scan at that time, I also have the rare bone L6 for interest, to the situation and i have a full copy of the scan, It appears on the scan that I am developing some real problems with my thoracic spine though am having some difficulty gettting this confirmed, Thank You for a most informative video,
How sad, I went through a similar situation back in 2005, the first surgeon messed my lower back up, the pain was worse after the surgery, I kept telling him something was wrong, I was going numb from my lower back all the way down both legs to my feet, I finally was able to go back and see said Dr, only for him to say nothing was wrong, I funny had enough of his B.S. and went to the emergency room at the university of Chicago, they set me up with an appointment with the head of neurosurgery for the hospital. He sent me for all kinds of x-rays, mri's and ct-scans, finely the Dr found out the first surgeon left a big hunk of bone on my nerve, so, he set me up for surgery to remove the bone fragment and fix whatever he could. He was able to remove the bone fragment, but kept telling me how sorry he was that he couldn't do anything else, because my spine fusion was a mess, it took him over 2 hours just to remove the bone fragment on my nerve, he told the bone fragment almost severed my nerve in half, and he told me there was no surgery or grafts that he could do to fix the nerve, he sent me up with an appointment with a pain Dr, who, said she could only give me pain meds to help with the pain, and that was all. It is December 29 2019, and I still have to take pain meds to help me with the pain and help me be able to get around and do things, I will never have a quality of life (as she put it), even taking the meds, I won't, she said it's something I will have to deal with, I still have really bad pain, the medication helps, but not I wish it would, she said she could give me stronger meds, but I refused, because they are highly addictive, even the meds I take now are addictive, but not as bad as the meds she was talking about. How I wish I could go back in time an either never have the surgery or had a better surgeon do the operation, even if it meant going to another state. That was the first surgery I had ever had, I didn't know any drs, so I called my insurance company to help me out, they were the ones who referred me to the first surgeon........
Sorry to hear about your pain and issues. I've had 4 spine surgeries that never did any good to stop leg pain and now I am going to have a total hip replacement and who knows how that may affect my nerve pain, so I really understand what you have been through. Pain meds have never done my any good so no point in taking them. Hope you can get some relief.
Thanks to you, I was able to diagnose my husband's cervical problems, and got a surgeon whom fixed the problem, from a previous neurosurgeon that should not be practicing medicine.
I would love for you and your friends to look at my case to see what you think. After watching this video i became worried about where I am standing with my fusion and laminectomy, because I've become decreasingly worse since my surgery. I went back and looked at the findings and it talked about screws being out of place like you described in this video, it also said something to the affect FINDINGS: 1. There are postoperative changes of posterior segmental fusion with screw and rod construct at L4-L5. The left L4 pedicle screw breaches the outer cortex of the left pedicle. The left L5 pedicle screw breaches the anterior lateral cortex of the L5 vertebral body. There is lucency surrounding the left L5 pedicle screw raising concern for possible loosening of the screw. The hardware is intact. 2. There are decompressive laminectomies of L4 on L5. 3. There is a persistent grade 1 anterior spondylolisthesis of L4 on L5. This is stable from prior imaging. No new malalignment is seen. 4. Imaging was performed from the lower aspect of T11 through the S2 segment. The imaged vertebrae maintain their height. No fractures are noted. There are no osteolytic nor osteoblastic lesions identified. 5. The sacroiliac joints appear normal. 6. No paraspinal soft tissue abnormalities are seen.
T11-T12: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing. T12-L1: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing. L1-2: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing. L2-3: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing. L3-4: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing. L4-5: There is a decompressive laminectomy defect. There is significant streak artifact from the orthopedic hardware. The normal soft tissue planes are disrupted due to the surgery. The spinal canal and the foramina are not adequately evaluated at this level. L5-S1: There is no significant osseous encroachment on the spinal canal at this level. Degenerative endplate osteophyte and facet arthrosis is causing mild to moderate left and mild right foraminal stenosis. _________________________ IMPRESSION: There are postoperative changes of posterior segmental fusion with screw and rod construct at L4-L5. The left L4 pedicle screw breaches the outer cortex of the left pedicle. The left L5 pedicle screw breaches the anterior lateral cortex of the L5 vertebral body. There is lucency surrounding the left L5 pedicle screw raising concern for possible loosening of the screw. The hardware is intact.
You need to go to Another Neurosurgeon and and have him read your M.R.I.and help you. The Dr. Who caused this will not help you cuz they won't admit they did anything wrong.Find a good Neurosurgeon and make and appointment with him and go see a good Neurosurgeon.It looks like your current Neurosurgeon didnt know what hes doing. Do it quickly because this is dangerous. Having a screw poking through the bone and hitting soft tissue where you have blood vessels is not good.
@@Imaghostfreak67 Where do you live? What City and State and what type of insurance? I will try to find someone to help you. I'm very good at finding good Doctors and Neurosurgeons and Surgeons. You deserve the best care that there is. You are Gods Child and God wants the best for you. You must not give up.
I live in Newaygo, MI the 2 closest cities for me are Grand Rapids, and Muskegon. My original Neurologist was Dr. Ali out of spectrum health neurology in Grand Rapids. I'm so frustrated.
Dude, I mean Dr., I wanted to see the video but couldn’t take my eye off that beautiful rig behind you. I love PRS guitars. Mesa Boogie isn’t too shabby either. Well done! After watching this video, I’m absolutely terrified of my upcoming ALIF for L5-S1 in a few weeks. Having a great level of mechanical ability is important to drive a screw into the right spot. I waited for a long time to do this surgery with back pain on and off for 15 years or so. I’m going to be 55 yrs old in a month which is why I went ahead and decided to do it. Hopefully I’m not a case study for you in the future.
Hello dear doctor. I don't know how to thank you, how to thank for your help. I play your graet videos over and over. Thnak you so much. You are the best doctor I know. 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
Hello, this is a good question and confusing for people. The L3 nerve root runs down the lateral spine and courses right in front of the root of the anterior part of the transverse process of L4. So that misplaced pedicle screw could indeed be rubbing the L3 nerve root.
what will you do for a disk that is 11 milimeters out of my spine and also have a fractured on the same place this young man has. the doctor who will perform surgery on me say fusion a metal plate and screws with a braket holding it in place to help with the fusion. L5 S1 I don't like the idea of having hardware in my body but the pain is horrible 25 year and counting can't take it anymore. also the fact I won't be able to bend forward or turn side to side is scary thought.
I feel so sorry for this patient, I myself have had two spinal fusions in my lumber spine seven and a half years ago that was a complete failure after visiting my surgeon so many times and told there was nothing he could see that would be causing my extreme pain, he refused to do anything about it now after seeing another surgeon Im having more surgery to rectify the original surgery I have been diagnosed with a collapsed disk and servere flat back syndrome The hospital is a training hospital The Royal North Shore Public Hospital. The original surgeon who is a top surgeon at this hospital his name is Dr Hartin.
I've had three back operations and am still in hellish pain. I would bet that my MRI would look like this or worse. Much of the time my life is not worth living and the doctor says, "Well, I fixed you." Oh hell yes.....he fixed me, all right.
Sorry , I feel your pain I had a Trifusion in 2015 on L4 L5 S1 and the same here , they can’t shut the pain off so the put a implant in me , a spinal nerve stimulator , so between the implant tv music and my computer is some of the things I have to do to help me not think of the pain I live in everyday of my life . Now they want me to take this test to run the dye through my spine to see all of the damage that is there .
Hi Dr Gilliard. Very informative video. I feel so bad for this patient. I know what is to be in constant pain. I had a two level neck fusion in 2020 that I am still suffering from pain. I had multiple imaging done and no Dr has been able to tell me what’s wrong. It’s frustrating how a person in pain is dismissed by these surgeons.
So scared. After multiple epidural injections, nerve root blocks and multiple spinal fluid leaks and three spine surgeries later the horrific problems continue now I’m being faced with these nerve ablation procedures. I’m highly concerned because the aftermath of epidural injections in my neck left me with Essential Tremors since 2017. I’m highly concerned now having anyone get that close to my nerves in my spine. “Is it just me or is there anyone else out there experiencing such a huge amount of bad luck with their spine”
Well, that was scary. Just had a consultation with an orthopedic surgeon today about my L5 S1 problem and chronic lower back pain. Last scan was two years ago so he has ordered another. Now I am frightened.
There is something that may need to be checked. I also have a failed fusion than nobody will address. I've been back and forth with doctors and even got a new surgeon to look. My original surgeon suggested that he take out the hardware, but I refused because my pain was so bad with my original fusion surgery it required a 7 day hospital stay and 10 day rehab stay. That was 2019 In the July 2022, I severely dislocated and broke my ankle. After 4 months and so far 10 hyperbaric oxygen treatments, we are finding I may have a hardware problem. I still have open sores over my screws which won't heal. No predisposing conditions that would cause this. Every step I take is painful. Still have periods of shooting severe pain I have asked to have my hardware removed as soon as it's feasibly possible. The soonest they will do it is April 2023. Anyway, if that stops the pain, it may be my back still hurts because of the hardware. I'm going to ask for it to be removed.
⚠️ I finally was in so much pain after years with a lumber fusion wearing out the next disc up that I had an artificial disc Spinal Kinetics M6-L implanted at the bad disc level. Severe pain stopped immediately. Had to travel and pay cash, but it was an investment in getting my life back. It’s been three years and I am not perfect, but I am excellent. ⚠️ I also recently had the old fusion hardware removed. That made a notable difference as well. People with fusions without bone density disorders should consider it after two years post fusion if in pain or discomfort. I felt the rods jamming at the base of my spine (a dull impingement feeling) especially on a hard surface chair and could not walk or be on my feet long without excessive inflammation. Two screws broke as well. What opened my eyes is a surgeon said there was little room down there. So let’s get this straight, I am causing friction and scar tissue as I walk...
Hi Mike, Barcelona Spine Center Dr. Pablo Clavel is the chief neurosurgeon (nice people). He will do a SKYPE call 1/2 hour for I think it was $300 or $400 euros (credited to surgery if you go forward). The process is where you send in your medical records and MRI by email (I used Dropbox link). The review is free. They will send you what he indicates is the issue and surgical recommendations. Then you can do the SKYPE. They take credit cards. The web site is www.doctorclevel.com and it has all the forms you need for medical history. He may recommend the Spinal Kinetics M6 or the ESP. Same price. I have both a double level in the neck with ESP and the single level lumbar with Spinal Kinetics. If you are serious about this you can email me with your phone at howsecureareyou @ Gmail. Com and we can talk on the phone - I did that with a couple people on a blog that Clavel did the surgery and that amplified my confidence in the entire process. When emailing add a subject line with something like Spinal Kinetics or Dr Clavel follow through. Keep in mind this is medical tourism and is not likely covered by health insurance unless you have a progressive company funded coverage that covers this. I paid $34k for the double level neck and $26k for the lumbar. It’s up to your CPA to advise you on medical deductions.
Hi Mike, I should mention... The Spinal Kinetics M6-C passed its “FDA One Level” approval earlier this year. That is Cervical only (neck). After one level, the company follows through with approval for up to two levels. The Spinal Kinetics M6 has been a standard in Europe for 14 years. FDA is very expensive and slow. A very interesting story in and of itself. The fact is, the artificial disc was invented in Germany in the mid-70’s and the center of excellence in artificial discs world wide is in Germany. The US has been slow and most of the discs are physically hard. The Spinal Kinetics and ESP discs have a cushion center that acts like a shock absorber - emulating a real human disc. When you walk the Spine is compressed every time your foot passes contact with the floor. Read up on ASD Adjacent Segment Degeneration because that is what you want to help avoid.
@@jrchicago9216 Hi again, so I went to the Doctor who put two ADR(Pro Disc-C) at C5-6 and asked if he used the Activ_L lumbar disc and he told me he uses the Pro disc_L in Lumbar and because of degenerative disc disease I am not a canidate according to FDA RULES. He has done two lumbar levels
Hi Mike, Degenerative Disc Disease (DDD) is thrown around a bit generically. You may desire to obtain another opinion. If the bone itself is degrading that’s important (many women post menopausal) suffer from this. However, many US surgeons are not performing lumbar artificial disc implant surgeries, for various reasons (experience and complications). Here are some you could consider sending your MRI and medical history to that may have a more experienced take on this. Check out UA-cam’s from Dr Michael Janneson in Denver. In Chicago at RUSH Dr Harel Deutch. In Seattle area, Swedish Spine Dr. John Hsiang are some of the most experienced in the US. Keep in mind the US is behind and does not like lumbar implants. Many mistakes were made too and there is a gun shy atmosphere as doctors don’t want to have an insurance record of having short term revisions - having to go back in an remove the disc and fuse it. The unfortunate reasons are lack of experience and the limitations with the disc they chose to carry. Insurance is another BIG blockade that the fusion is cheaper and that limits the experience of the surgeon and is not as good for the patient. Find the real expert is the moral of the story. The small inconvenience in travel is nothing in the big picture of getting your life back. When I went to Barcelona it was at first a big decision - checking out the hospital certification, calling a couple patients, etc. When I went, it was no different than any US top hospital. In fact, it was a fun experience, the hospital was modern, squeaky clean, the room overlooked the Mediterranean Sea and the staff was very pleasant. They even had an interpreter over night just in case there was a language barrier with the night staff (less English). When you get up an stand and 80% of the pain is gone, the experience turns to joy. If you want, you can also send your MRI and health records to the surgeon I used in Barcelona for a free email response review. He also will do a half hour skype call for I think it’s something like $350 euros. If by chance you do use him, that fee is subtracted from the surgery cost. It’s about getting a clear answer from someone who has performed thousands of lumbar artificial disc surgeries with the best artificial disc made on the planet (the US is way behind because of the FDA and politics). Www.doctorclavel.com has all the forms online. I sent my MRI via an email link from DROPBOX. At least you would have a definitive answer that you are qualify medically for an artificial disc or not and know the reason why rather than the generic DDD excuse. You have to determine if it’s best to know the truth by the experts that perform thousands of these. How important is that to you?
I had a back fushion of the L4 L5 SEPT 3rd 2021. I ended up with a back infection and have had nothing but problems since. I now found out 3 of the screws are broke and the 4th screw is on the verge of breaking. I also have a grade 1 1/2 almost 2 slippage. Im in severe pain. My doctor said I need emergency surgery but he can't seem to get me in until July 29th. Today I'm debating going to the ER for the pain. Im so worried about my back.
to me, the the second MOST HORRIFYING thing in this video is that this doctor won't tell us what country and what hospital/doctor botched this surgery... that information will save countless people from having to go through the same thing!!!!
I had 2 failed spine fusions in 2010 and 2011. The first one had to be repeated due to a screw coming loose. I'm in worse shape now than I was prior to ever having the first surgery.
I had terrible left leg pain, the neurosurgeon said I had to have a laminectomy to correct. Went for surgery on 2/2021 but he did a fusion on l2-l5 and s1. In recovery I felt losing mobility in my RIGHT leg. I was told that during surgery that blood pressure dropped in my leg and damaged my nerves. Now I have drop foot, my toes are numb on both feet, the skin on my left leg is numb along with the skin on my lower right side and butt cheek plus my bowels now have a mind of their own. After 2/12 mos. of rehab to no avail I had an EMG 9mos.later and was told the nerves in my leg were fine but the problem is in my l5 from surgery. I was scheduled for more surgery on 11/2021 but my vascular surgeon stopped it and my primary didn't recommend it because I could end up in worse shape that I am now. So I guess I'll be a cripple for the rest of my life.
Oh my! I'm really sorry to read this. I would get a second opinion from doctors not associated in any way (and far away from) with the surgeons who apparently created this mess. Good luck!
If you could help me, I'd be greatly thankful. Had a fusion 10/2018. Can't do too much without pain. Not much different & even worse after surgery. Had laminectomy, fusion of L4 & L5 with cage graft and decompression.....still feeling horrible.
Hello. Hope you are feeling better. It happened to me also..bad back surgery. Loss use of my left leg..etc etc.. looking for a good back Dr. In Maryland.. to maybe fix my problem..
I had the alif procedure @ L5/ S1 in Nov 2020. Sciatica is worse in my left leg now, and has even moved into my left arm. Constant pain in my left back along with muscle spasms in my left leg and unbalanced at times. Ugh...
Thank you Dr. for your time and passion for making people walk again, and freeing them from pain. You’re a gift from God. I am horrified by what the butcher did to the poor patient. Unbelievable, that he is even allowed to keep operating is beyond comprehension!!! That butcher probably thinks he’s the best at what he does. Cocky monster 👹. God bless you and god bless the poor patients that this butcher has probably destroyed, already .
I hope this guy gets the best help after what he has been through with these other doctors,, and get out of the country you are in and I pray that you get healthy and pain Free 🙏✌🏼✌🏼💖👍💯🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yikes!!! So sad and scary. I've been told I'm a candidate for lumber spinal fusion. One Dr was ready to do it immediately and another Dr said I wasn't in enough pain to do it. Both recommended PLIF? It seems they still do this procedure in the U.S. I'm going to put surgery off as long as I can.
I had the same surgery on 01/08/2019, after a year, I have more pain than I did before the surgery, my 3 hour surgery turned in to a 5 hour surgery because the membrane around my spinal cord was torn during surgery. I wish I had never had it done, I had severe nerve pain on my right leg all the way to my big toe. I cannot enjoy the life I had even before surgery, I used to play golf 4-5 days a week, Now I cannot play 2 days in a row or I end up on the couch with my foot and let on a pillow. My insurance company denied my claim, they paid the facility but would not pay the surgeon in full, it went through 3 appeals and denied because the surgeon's decision to fuse my l5-S1 was not "Medically Necessary" so that tells me the surgeon messed up, I ended up having to pay the surgeon's bill myself or they would of sent me to collections. I cannot believe my pain I have in the right hip clear to my toes, it's horrible. I am lost and don't know what to do about it.
You mentioned drs can be sued for what they did. What if you didn’t know that’s what they did and the statute of limitations was expired? Drs shouldn’t get away with things like this. At the very least they should get their asses kicked!!!
Both of these procedures, what it looks like to be were done in a Monday.. no doctor wants to admit their fault- esp with this consequence. What works for me- If I get a feeling I’m getting short changed in regards to treatment or care- I go get a second opinion from another health care professional. Instead of getting brow beaten by the same physician. Thanks for the video- 👍🏻
Hi Douglas, thanks to you i learned everything about spine. I came from Croatia and no one accept black disc as a source of pain. I sufferend since 15, and now im 32. I had 2 artificial disc in Barcelona 5 months ago L3-L4 & L4-L5 and i feel reborn. For that patient if fusion didnt fuse, there is a real chanse to remove it all and insert ADR. Thanks for informative video, speccialy about annular tears which i had and noone accepted it as a pain source...
I have 8 screws,3 rods cage , fusions pushed out of my back I cannot walk upright sense my surgery . I’m in so much pain and now I’m told the upper back is collapsing and no one can do anything. There’s isent help and I’ve have pain down both legs neck but I could just give up I became disabled because of my surgery. Doctors around here will not see a patient until 3 years after a failed surgery if ever. I waited many years and now I’m pretty much done
All this giving me the clear picture that the Dr who performed this wasn't had any hand on experience n had tested his inexperienced skills on an innocent patients. That dr shud me punished wherever he's in this world. God please help the patient who's in a miserable pain.
In 2006 I had a car accident that left me very bad. My first surgery was to extract the fluid from the disc and push the disc since it was very close to the spine. I was 21 years old. If you saw that my bones were not strong to withstand this type of surgery and unfortunately I have lived with pain because everything collapsed puncturing nerves and everything is stuck I took hydrocodone 10 mg 325 which at least helped me control the pain for more than 4 years I didn't even go back to check my back because in fact they took away all the medications. Sometimes I can go weeks without sleep because I get anxiety in my legs that I don't feel them I fist my legs because it's frustrating to live with that feeling. They recommended that I wear a stimulation machine with morphine and another with electricity but I don't want to continue having surgeries that are not going to give me back my joy living with back pain is not living and the depression it causes you is worse 
Same , they took me of the pain medication because of opioid hysteria no matter if you live in agony and pain every second that is our stupid Canadian government.
I have spondyloloptosis.I started years ago,with grade 2 spondy. I did not want many surgeries ..adjacent issues etc and I am a life long steroid dependent asthmatic. I live in pain daily
I had a final surgery in 2011 after a work related incident,I have been in constant pain since,Doctor Steven Jacobs of Fishkill NY giving an 80% chance of success whom was a brain surgeon as I was that because the spine is alert of the rain.i have also met a patient of his at the pain management that he performed the same surgery on which failed.It has been 12 years and I had to leave NY due to the cold weather I became fed ridden and depressed,I was but on Fentenoyl & hydromophine
Which made me addicted and have never take drug.i I am now in Las Vegas ,I have gone through 28 day withdrawal.i have new doctors and have been told that I will live in pain the rest of my life.People see you and don’t know how painful living with chronic pain is.thank you for listening.i wasabandon also by the doctor when he saw that Ii was still in pain,also when he took the staples out of my back he dropped the instameny picked it up without cleaning it and continue using it my family member who is a nurse confronted him asking for his license number telling him the back surgery has a high infection rate and he called me 20times in one day asking who she was trying to talk to me.i told him I felt like he wronged me and treated me as if the failed surgery was my fault.also I was told that after surgery I should have lyes flat for 48 hours but was tiered by nurses several times .thank God that there are epilepsy like you that listen.i have asked if I could have revisions surgery and was told no .this is very hard on not just the resin but on peer families.
I am passing that same thing my doctor tells me that the surgery went well but now I have more pain and now I am passing out frequently it has been almost 2 years from my surgery he won’t take a second review
I also have congenital stenosis. I had a fusion in late 2018. Since the fusion I have been in severe pain. Just found out I will need another surgery. I’m really considering seeking council regarding my situation.
Had a back surgery in 2003. Went though the front then the back..l5 S1. Loss the use of my left leg. Got 65 percent of it back. Loss muscle mass. My leg is so skinny...worse mistake of my life..Dont know what to do after 19 years..
I need advice please. who decided what kind of metal will be used for the fusion on the lumbar? I have been told that the only material that the body doesn't reject is platinum or something like that. help me .......!
This is me to a T. Exactly same situation my main pain is in the outside of my right calf it feels like someone is giving me a chairlie horse every step. Also had a tib/fib put back together and the 2 screws are busted in half on the same leg. And having no family or friends or money living on PWD ( Vancouver B.C. Canada ) 🇨🇦 is just over 1200 a month . Rent for a 1 bedroom apt goes for around 1200 to 1800 .I went to school yo become a pipe fitter and obviously that's out the window. Now 42 think I'll try to become an outreach worker part time. So we'll see.......Cheer's.
I was used as a ginniepig for a double lumbar fusion in 2014 that has been and is a nightmare, pain has taken over my life, please consult with me as No one seems to be able to stop this Nero surgeon from doing this to people 😢 I never needed the surgery to begin with and have mri reports showing before an after , I didn't sign up for this off lable surgery, parts , he's still practicing 2022 help in Michigan
Hi my name is Ramiro Del bosque I have had several lower back surgeries and my screws keep loosening I have 10 screws in my lower back. What can I do because I’m still having a lot of pain.
Radiculopathy is a diagnosis made when the neurological examination is positive (i.e., decreased reflex, decreased sensation, and/or decreased muscle strength). Radicular pain is an adjective which describes a pain that radiates down either the upper or the lower extremity in a fairly narrow band. Its often dermatomally located.
I kept going back to my Drs and surgeons to say my left prosthetic cemented hip was painful, down the front of my leg and groin, when I walked. It took 7 years before the did anything and had to redo the hip, it has now started again the same symptoms they are telling me the same thing again, that it is fine. ?? So I will just wait until I am crippled before I go back to them, one physiotherapist said basically it's all in my mind.
Here we are in 2023, My surgeon definitely thinks my L4/L5 fusion did not get enough bone growth and that is causing the pain since surgery. I will say all the leg pain and sciatic pain was gone day 1 after surgery, but I have had pain and still have pain anytime I bend forward. My question is the original surgery was done from the back but this time he wants to do the revision at L4/L5 but coming from the front, How will he remove the screws? Can it be done from the front or will he have to do that from the back and do the rest from the front?
I am 72 years old and have undergone spinal surgery in september 21 for spinal stenosis and L3-L4-L5 listhesis.My pain and leg problems have remarkably improved.but I have developed bladder hypotonia .I have to do self caterization twice a day.i would like know the chances of recovery.
Hi, I have a question. I had my scoliosis surgery when I was 12, Im now 26. Im thinking about getting it removed since its been so long and Im having muscle strain and my back Is tired all the time. My hips joints are starting to as well.. Do you think the spine is fused enough to get it removed without recurving in the future. Thanks
CDaeda i have had extensive back surgeries (23). I had a friend I referred to one of my drs at the time, who had fixed another dr's screw up. He did this approach and had a hard time recovering. I had had an anterior approach that went horribly wrong. Just like any risks of going anaesthesia, there is always a certain percentage that that approach could have issues. My anterior approach is a 3% chance that my bowels would shut down. Well I was that 3%, for 14 days no food and had an NG tube up my nose down to my stomach bringing up anything that went down. They had knicked just above my umbilical and caused a hernia. That I can't get a dr within a 100 mile radius of that dr to fix it. Also they never sewed my muscles back properly so I can barely stuck in my stomach- I've invested in a lot of spanks. I'm not sure where your from but if you're in Florida, I can give you the top neurosurgeon in the world and one of the leading Orthopaedic. He used the Mazor* robot on my back that was the largest back surgery done at that time. Ibe had more success have posterior approaches than anything. They all say these OLLIF,TLIF,ALIF approaches are better. Safer. Less recovery etc. But having had these different approaches,also my mom, have had problems versus the original surgery they all learned, the posterior approaches have had as much if not better recovery. I wish there was a way to post a photo of my back with all my hardware and scars. Always get a second opinion and that you're dealing with the BEST surgeon in your state. Both of mine I reccomend are over 3 hrs away. And its worth every minute, mile and gas money I spend.
CDaeda good luck in which ever surgery you have. I hope I didn't scare you but after what I have been thru I make sure people are educated in making the best decision with a 2nd or 3rd opinion, without the other drs opinions.
I have undergone a similar operation on the 25th of April 2023.. Right after the operation i have been suffering from burning pain on my outer right thigh. The doctor advised me that the pain will disappear with time. The pain is still there. Please advise me what to do. I live in Africa, in Namibia.
Yes I will be getting a hold I would like see your thoughts on a spine stimulators. The pain centers are pushing these on patients. Like they are working for them and I just feel they have a kick back putting these in and are they worth it when you had 8 surgeries and still have bone problems ? And been living with adhesive arachnoiditis. I will email you thank you
Hello I had the same complain both legs on pain for a year 6 months de infuse my back cause my bone weee shifting. But I still have pain on legs and now new pain on my buttock .please help what should I do I’m always on pain pills .I can’t work ok because of pain.
I am in the same boat. Had 360 spinal fusion in 1997. S1 L5 L4. Bone graph taken off left illact joint. Now I have unstable SI joints. 2003 they took our hardware because pedicle screw in spinal nerve. Now I have 2 more herniated disc above fusions. Pain so bad. Also 2 herniated in middle of back. Pain doctor said he want treat me anymore if I don't get into a surgeon. I have been trying to but workers comp is holding it up. Then this pain doctor cut my pain meds to two hydrocodone break through instead of three. What happened to do no harm on to heir oath. I'm 64 and the pain is getting so bad. God help us
If you got care that is less than what could be provided by a similarly trailed and qualified person and it resulted in harm to the patient then yes it is malpractice. People can’t guarantee outcomes but you should be getting care that would be expected of a similar professional. Nowadays, the screws are guided in real time with a program that synchronizes with a CT scan of the spine. Then xrays are taken to confirm placement. Maybe other countries don’t have that technology but the United States does.
PLEASE HELP - I AM FINDING SOMETHING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND 11:35: isn't it the L4 exiting nerve root? Given this is the L4 vertebrae. How can it be L3? I thought at L4-L5 disc level you have the exiting L4 nerve root flowing and traversing L5 nerve root in the thecal sack. ??? 26:25: Same thing. If we are looking at the L3 vertebrae. Shouldn't it be the L3 exiting nerve root next to the screws in the extra foramin? 16:48 - It made sense to do a fusion in my opinion, because he had an annular tear in the disc at L3-L4. Although it could be argued because his disc looks healthy. ALIF - is a great fusion for a patient becaues you don't end removing bone or tampering with the CE nerve. A posterior fusion can be quite destructive not to mention scar tissue formation around the CE nerve
Hi there Dr. Sir. I hope you are doing well. I only just heard of you but I'm glad I did. I myself have a situation. I'm a single 38 male in Ohio. Just had my 5th spinal revision last month on the 28th. Ehlers danlos/connective tissue disorders genetically run in my mother's side of the family. I don't meet the Brighton score but my mothers sister and two of her children have it on the scale. I don't because my mom and dad don't have it. Though we suspect they are "silent/non descript carriers" of some sort. I had my first surgery at around 14ish/15 years of age. I can't find anyone to pick up primary care or coordinate referrals for me which is what primary care is supposed to help do. I do have a primary care provider but he is leaving for a new fellowship in two months heading to the northwest part of the state. So I'll have to start over yet again, from the beginning. I have a pain Dr but he's not board certified to dispense properly for chronic pain cause he is mainly physiatry and sports medicine. So he can't meet my mme need. I'm a multimodal chronic pain patient whom knows his rights. I just need some legit advice.
Also I am fused from my hips to about my t10. Then also I may one day need surgery at the c5-6-7. Trying to avoid it. And I have a broken right ankle that has been broken since December 13, 2019.3 surgeries on it cause of their screw up. Now I have a broken myleolar bone(I think that is how it's spelled) in my foot and with connective tissue disorder and pre-diabetes and bad blood clotting factors like von willibrands.. And I've got a "collegiately educated" team of like 40 doctors I've assembled over the last two years since moving here.. And they are all just leaving me hanging. I've got about maybe 6 out of that 40 that actually Do pay attention.and your video here basically describes me to a t.
I had mononucleosis. I got it from a cut on my hand working in broken glass from finishing up some community service hours as a juvenile. Well I got a cut from a broken wine bottle I think it was, ended up sick in a bed on rotated saline drips borderline comatic.well at that time it was between 6&7th grade for me, In a 6 month span laying in a bed my body grew and grained 9 inches of height in that time. Which is normally or typically "unheard" of. First surgery as an emergency displaced my hips so badly so that my right leg is now over an inch longer. I've asked for lifts and no referrals no progress.as a patient whom "jumps through every hoop.. And has almost 20 years of good solid records that I don't divert meds or ask for extras, I stay within 100% compliancy with no risks on me to them. But they get so scared of the Dea and their prescriber numbers are more important. But they take oaths. And by "doing no harm" they are doing more actual harm and they are being Complicit to the problem. And that's why we have high over dose rates because people are are forced to buy street drugs that are cut with bad adulterants and they do them thinking its substance a, when it's substance b, and they have no tolerance for substance b. Or maybe they even have an allergy to b.
wow, those doctors need to be reported to the medical board or something, whoever is in control there in that country. like to know what country that was in.... clearly they have no biz doing surgery to ANYONE. I refused fusions cause they are not natural movement after and have problems like this OR longterm pain due to bones being cut like that are a risk higher for issues longterm. lucky i have great doctors that took me a long time with me and goes over the smallest detail and there every inch of way from after when you wake up to calling you in the evening for the first week. hundreds of good reviews. a doctor screws up this bad omg, no way would i have that same doctor redo it! is spearing someone a few times in spine a crime in that country?
Had a Fusion in April after I ruptured the same disc about 4 years after a microdiscectomy, and the doctor says at 12 weeks my bones are not fusing? Don't smoke drink or have diabetes? What happens if my bones don't fuse? Any ideas to help with this? Immediately after fusing no more leg and radiating pain but after 12 weeks don't feel any better than I did 3 weeks after? Back feels painful when I lean forward slightly or try and lift anything?
Thanks Kickdog69, the surgeons assistant seemed a little concerned and I was thinking man its only been 3 months but I could see it in his eyes.... I started taking Vitamin D and drinking more milk and Magnesium supplement and hope in the next 2 months some fusion starts on my end. I have only been walking mostly. Started doing some assisted lunges between two chairs hoping to strengthen the glutes which may help the lower back? He told me no motorcycle because of the vibration, and no jogging.
I would never let any Medal shop worker do a Lumbar Fusion to my lower back , I've heard to many repeat bad story , imagine this , Tiger wood with his 500 millions had to have 3 Spinal Fusion ,you would think a guy like him that can afford the best surgeon to do it right the first Time ,what chance does a Dumb jock like us have under the knife the first time .
That’s terrible. I live in the United States and I asked around to nurses and patients which spine doctor I should get. He is the same one that operates on the other surgeons in my area when they have a spine problem. I got an appointment within two weeks. I’m not a good candidate for surgery though…still a lot of back pain. A lot of people complain about the American Healthcare system but there are worse ones. Free doesn’t always mean better. There are definitely some surgeons I wouldn’t want to touch me.
I have a failed fusion l5 S1 in 1992 and have been suffering ever since. This story is so similar the Dr. denied that anything else was wrong. Later they figured out that they mis read my MRI and all I had was a pulled muscle.. Now I am tread like a criminal due to the pain meds I have been on. I am so hopeless now that I am just on gabapentin. My pain haunts me day and night. sever sciatic pain. Thanks for your video I hope people really think about surgery before undergoing the knife. I was 27 yrs old and have been permanently disable ever since.
Try Topomax instead of gabapentin. It helped me. Start very slowly. 12.5 mg at night and work up to 200 mg bid. Positive side effect it helps you lose weight instead of gain weight.
does your pain go into leg?
@@milekrizman Yes. I have very bad nerve pain that goes down my left leg all the way to my foot. Its been horrible to deal with.
@@NickysMind before the surgery I had only pain in my left lower back. No pain in leg
@@milekrizman sciatic pain usually does go across the butt cheek and down the leg. I have severe pain from sciatic pain everyday after having failed fusion from L4/5 & L5/S1 fusions. Both failed. Was told from 5 different surgeons that nothing more can be done! Been stuck in bed for a year now. I’m on pain pump with fentanyl now and still in severe pain. No relief.
Excellent video, with excellent reporting. I have laminectomey some 50 years ago. Ret law enforcement now 71 had fall now groin pain into both thighs buttocks can’t walk far burning pain I have also T 11,12, fractures Cervical 5,6,7 done spurs Nuro advised pars fracture to L4/5 S 1 needs cage with done in. I am very worried now waiting for operation but with all the of the above I am very concerned now.
I'm so sick of doctors who claim the patient is crazy because they don't know what's wrong.
I watched "the spine guy channel" and thank goodness I did. Highly recommend, very conservative recommendations.
Recovering from a L4/5 cortisone injection and trying to avoid surgery. Feel better!
They just want you hooked on pills
Me too😢
@@Just_MHO_thomasinacortisone injections can cause adhesive arachnoiditis. a lifelong soul crushing condition. not worth the risk for temporary relief. this affliction happens more often than the medical community wants to admit and most cases are undiagnosed. those reading this PLS avoid any kind of injection into the spine at all costs.
They want to "avoid lawsuits."
I'm not a medical professional but Dr Gillard explained this so well I'm horrified that a qualified surgeon could make these mistakes.
I wish you were closer to Los Angeles. I’ve been living with UNBELIEVABLE pain after failed C2 to T1, anterior/posterior surgeries in 2012. Everything you mention for this man resonates with me. I’ve tried everything including swimming, acupuncture, massage, etc. 4 neurosurgeon consults... life just isn’t worth living anymore.... waiting for a nerve test to be approved. There’s nothing else and I can’t get my insurance to approve the psych testing for a spinal cord stimulator.... sigh...
Dr. I can tell you how much your candid attitude lifted my sprits and the no “BS” call. Like a referee at a basket ball game, you see a foul or out-of-bounds activity, you call it out! As a 6’3” Farm kid the grew 7” at age 11, I was always given a man’s chores and worked my behind off as everyone else was younger or stepfather & his dad, sat in the truck and had beer while I did all of the chores for 1.5 hrs. or longer if cold. Either way, I knew only hard work with no allowance. My mechanical aptitude was everything, apprenticed at a good 2 man shop, honed my skills. I went 25 miles to the city to have benefits. I went right into a dealership and took test my boss asked for an was awarded ASE Master certification.
Years later at 28, a shop tried hard to get me to quit and work for them. I did. They built a gas station/shop on a hill and did not pack the dirt. A slab of concrete sunk 8” and the three techs (Including myself) cut 2X8’s at a slant to be able to drive a normal car into and out of the shop. The boss lost his case and bought a huge backhoe and found out I could run it. Removed concrete and down 4 feet so drain pipe could be fixed. It rained in late summer. They put tarps over it then removed to dry. Two weeks or so passed and my boss asked me to run the rented earth compaction machine. I said no and argued for 20+ minutes. My pay per hour went way up and I am running this gas engine, that jumps up & down. The dry soil turned to mud, picked it up and drug it to a new location. Same problem. I knocked it over after 5 hours, locked my tool box and went home with a sore back. I woke up with the sensation of the worse sunburn I ever had. I had a surgeon with 30+ years and after laminectomy, mylogram and dropped in screaming pain. Now the fall and 29 years old. He took donor bone from hip and explained what became true. (R.I.P. / Nice guy) He told me out of 5 major muscle groups, I tore three of them near the bottom. He said these are scar tissue. 20 years pass and had a fusion using the “Harrington” procedure with pedestal screws, bars and bracket five year before. No longer could work bad elbow, torn rotator cuff, just a sum total too much. About 2 years later, dorsal nerves trapped in scar tissue and burns after bending to wash hands or work at the bench. Had an RF oblation but low, 3 bilateral. It became worse and come on quicker, but an L3-L2 epidural eliminated the pain and burning twice. Same 2005 Doc. got in and did not like what he saw. He did a good job but have the screws in S1-L5-L4-L3 and won’t go higher for the obvious reasons. Going back to have an epidural at the L3-L2 again, but if good, the only thing I can do is radio frequency nerve oblation that may help a little because it’s been soo long. Repeat again every two years or more. I can’t sit on my butt, and I have to bend for everything. Just want to stand like a man at 62, and walk to my mailbox without my abnormal long cain. I hope this works as quality of life has dropped to #2 w/10 excellent. I want to get off hydromorphone 8mg X 4 (Was 5 for 6 years) & diazepam 10mg X 4. It helps but for 20-40 minutes, then tick-tacs.
Anyone reading this after April 30th, 2021. If asked by work to do heavy work, even if you are built like a bull. 28-30 is your peak!!! Stop, say no, walk away and quit if need be. It is not worth it! There are other jobs, could be hard at first, but better than a lifetime of being young and looking like your 85 years old, in pain. It is really hard to cut your caloric intake from 2,000 to 500 calories per day. In pain, you can’t burn calories so you gain weight. 5 lbs. per month X 12 = What? 160 lbs. 170 lbs.? Now close to diabetic, heart problems 25 years early! Don’t do it ever. You look after you! Know-one else will. I can’t mow my own yard. Takes 4 tries and this year, no garden! First time ever. Sad, but life is hard, don’t make it harder! I am P. O.! Omaha.
Hope you feel better eventually man, I hear you. Very sad and fcked up world out there. I wish I wasn't such a working horse through my 20s and then got rear ended by some idiot who wasn't paying attention at 40mph. It's crazy to think that these ppl can get to Mars, but can't help those who are in need of relieving their back pain. Hope you're well, hang in there and great advice to young guys out there.
You are so correct, if you do heavy hard work , lifting etc while young it WILL catch up with you down the track.
@@RolandElliottFirstG I think my maternal grandfather told me that “Hard Work Will Get You Everything!” I am not sure if he mentioned when to start or how hard to work! All I know is, they spent sometime at a small garage drinking from a jug with 3 X’s on it. lol. Have a good Thanksgiving for 2021.
I am waiting for spinal electrodes at the L1 level. Live lumbar nerves trapped in scar tissue that use to be muscles. The Dr. in 1987 told me that much. Hoping for 50% or more relief so I can bend (6’3” tall) and walk like mowing my yard without a cane. Even to get the mail. 3 epidurals where perfect but lasted 1 1/2 day with non-particulate steroids. Fingers crossed as few Dr’s do not want Medicare patients.
To add to my other comment, i am 6'7 and have similar issues with my back.
@@RolandElliottFirstG Wow, you are tall and we are both living in a 5’2” world. My lumber burning only after bending started over 11 years ago. Been getting worse and more becomes more intense as the day progresses. Now in my early 60’s, I have a lot to do and have no intention to stop now! I will keep you and everyone in my prayers. Someone always has it worse but how much will you mind let you take. I look at things I want to do in my garage and cry. It wears you down.
I tell myself to keep going, just to get one thing done. I refuse to watch my neighbor mow his yard as I have to use a cane! I have to keep cardio, muscles even though my son would do it. I couldn’t sit and watch TV all day, unless real sick, that would be torture! Best of luck.
Very sad. There are incompetent doctors in many places, but this patient has clearly had one of the worst. I hope he can be seen buy a team of doctors that can repair or at least reduce the damage. Whoever did this to him should face criminal neglect charges and no longer be allowed to do any surgery.
I agree 100%!
Government controlled medical care
@@cindyjohnson5242 Canada.
its performed by Taliban, so...lol
you lucky they leave you alive on the new surgery
@@cindyjohnson5242 They use pain against us to kill us.
The poor soul. As someone with a not entirely successful L4 - S1 fusion, I sympathise. I hope he can find some help as suggested.
Need help
Dr. Thorne at Scripps in La Jolla. He is a master at repair.
I just had that surgery. What do you mean " not entirely successful"?
I remember reading on your website . Surgeon selection is the most important factor in spine surgery .
100% agree!! And it is not as simple or straightforward as it should be! It’s a really really long in-depth journey of research to find an excellent surgeon whom you can trust. I’ve watched hours of UA-cam on surgeries, education, and testimonials. So glad I found Dr. Spiro Antonaides on here. I contacted him several years ago and he did a very complicated cervical spine surgery for me and he will be doing my L5 S1 surgery as well
@@angelaclark5916 fusion ?
@@mickypoole9226 yes. I would rather avoid but I’ve done that already for too many years. So, taking the leap of faith and hoping it improves my quality of daily living. Pain is so grinding.
@@angelaclark5916 have you thought about total disc replacement ?
@@mickypoole9226 I haven’t
Wow, this has got to be Canada!!! So sorry for this young man. I completely empathize with what you’ve had to go through. I really hope you’ve found help and are doing better now.
I’m going through a very similar situation with a botched fusion, been trying to navigate our joke of a medical system since 2018. Same deal, Surgeon refuses to take accountability, and all other Surgeons that have assessed me refuse to help . I’ve went to NYC, and Germany on my own $ seeking help. Had half the revision surgery I need in Germany , now I can’t afford any more personal loans.
Sent my images to multiple institutes in the states and Germany and they all agree the hardware is misplaced, screws , cage and all. It all Needs to come out in order to heal. They refuse to acknowledge that here, help me , or send me to someone that will help me. It’s beyond hopeless and frustrating. I don’t know what to do at this point. I’m only 29 and just want my life back.
so sorry 😞
Hang in. Be careful of blood pressure and sleep deprivation. Chronic Pain that is severe can cause heart attacks and strokes. It can cause suicidal depression. Sleep deprivation affects mood too. All the best to you. Hope you got some relief.
Hello Penny how are you?
have you found help for your health problem ?
Where do you live, have you seen doctors in Texas?
I am having my surgery on the 17 and I am terrified but the pain I go through on a daily basis is out of control.
the neurosurgeon here in Texas seems like he has a heart compassion for humans. If you like I can share your story with him and see what happens?.
I hope you are ok considering the circumstances.
God bless you ! 🙌
hello Penny. I just got my fusion done on the 17th of
this month.
right now I'm at the rehab and I'm supposed to leave back home on 12 /02 on.
can tell you that these surgeries from my personal experience were the worst pain that I have ever experienced
throughout my whole life.
nothing that I would say will changed their mind or even feel my pain through my explanation. still on rehabilitation and recuperating, I don't really have strength to talk or to say anything else other than I'll be back in a few weeks and give you a more detail explanation.
to help how you know how my surgery is going one thing that I dId notice right away, you know like when we holding our phones and typing I feel like my fingers are doing their own thing and typing for me, before I even touch them key pad.
like they are tweaking . and I don't know if is something related to the surgery but I'm assuming it is. I'm going to talk about that with my surgeon next time when I go for a follow-up.
other than that right now that's about as much as I can tell you and I'm hoping that after I heal well first I'm hoping that I will heal without complications no infections and no relapse and then my second desire is that I will notice with my daily activities if the surgery really got me stronger and pain free from that specific health problem that I have thank you
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’m a young Canadian woman who also had a bad lumbar fusion at Mississauga hospital in Canada, the trillian spine institute is supposed to be one of the”our best”, but the cocky know-it-all young surgeon I had, (Dr. Jhas for anyone watching in Canada) ignored my concerns and gaslit me, tried to say my emergency revision surgery was “as unnecessary precaution”, refused to make time to book my 6 month follow up for 11 months, at which point the hardware had set in the wrong place. I have been considering going back to Germany, where I lived in 2019, for a third revision surgery to have the hardware removed, I’m curious to know where you went for consultations and what kind of rates they were quoting you to perform the surgery?
Wishing you all the best in your healing journey, I’m saying a prayer for you now to find relief. I hope things have finally started to turn around for you, solidarity sister🙏🏻❤️
This is very scary. I had a fusion @ L4/L5 where they came in from my right side. They only put a bracket on this side which would probably be ok but the spacer that they put is metallic and my new doctor can’t see if the bone graft took or not. No bone graft on outside part of fusion. The reason I got a new doctor is because I still have pain and even have new additional pain. All my doctors involved believe that L5/S1 failed shortly after surgery. First doctor had me get a round of shots to be sure that was the problem but then just threw his hands up and said that there was nothing he can do except for a pain stimulator so I went see a neurosurgeon. He got me going to three months of therapy and then surgery to fuse L5/S1 and tie in L4/L5 on my left side with additional bone graft. I’m praying for a miracle that I won’t need the surgery but I am doubtful. When I woke up from my first surgery my right leg was completely dead. No feeling or control whatsoever. You could have amputated it and I wouldn’t have felt it. The feeling and movement slowly came back and that was like the most painful dead leg I ever had. That’s why I think my first doctor is scared to work on me anymore. He said I had bad arthritis and ligaments and the bone was too brittle. I don’t think he was being honest at all. He went from being one of the nicest doctors to being completely distant. I’m tired of being on pain meds and being in pain all the time and I’m hearing horror stories with that pain stimulator.
So sorry you are going through this! Have you had any resolution?
How long ago was the fusion?
I had fusion at 4/5 and I wasn’t looking at the 11 month X-ray because mine failed to fix pain- there’s no bone around the metal spacer. Maybe there’s bone inside it.. I’m just wondering if they do the surgeries different now. Maybe they don’t remove enough of the disc for the bone to connect the vertebral bodies. I’m just theorizing
Went through the same crap after my first fusion, their even suggested I see a psychiatrist.. I found a REAL Doctor here ( not US) who fixed it as well as he could, replaced the infected screws and installed a cage to support the screws.. I am pretty ok now...
Wow, what's your doc's name & address?
Elaina Weeks Doctor Hertlein Sana Klinik Munich Germany, also known as OCM Munich... they are the best here.
I have a surgeon here in Toronto, Canada, Dr. Jhas of Trillium Spine Center, that has been “so busy” that I’m still trying to get in for my “6 month follow-up” 11 months later, and I fear I have a hardware issue because of new shooting nerve pain in the opposite leg and ongoing chronic pain around the hardware site of a different quality than originally. Unfortunately, in Canada we have such a critical shortage of surgeons that you have to wait a year just to get the first consultation, and another year for surgery (more if it’s not “urgent”), so if feels hopeless if you need to have revision surgery done to correct work in a time sensitive window. I’ve already had one revision surgery due to infection obtained in the hospital, what happens if you have hardware out of alignment during the healing process and you wait t too long to fix it?
Thank you for these videos, it really helps to be informed, and to see there are surgeons out there than are such compassionate patient advocates 🙏🏻
That’s crazy. Do you have socialized medicine in Canada? In the United States, I was able to see my spine surgeon within two weeks and part of why it took so long is my work schedule so I had to make the appointment for the following week. I hope you get some relief. Back pain is miserable. It wears people down physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Honestly after seeing this I no longer feel that my lumbar spine is that bad and I’m greatful for having only one fusion revision and 4 other lumbar surgical procedures dealing with herniated disc and stenosis issues, I do have some pain issues, but over all my spine is stable but complex as far as treatment of symptoms , and I’d rather be me than him!!
you just need to get a new spine fusion :)
I work in construction and I can see the big mistakes. I don't need to be a doctor in other to see that , I've been watching MRI in lumbar discs for couples days . Poor kid , I feel sorry for him
2008 L4_L5 disc herniated, 1 failed Epidural injection. 2 failed SPINAL BLOCKS , WALACE IMPLANT IN 2008 . WAS SUPPOSED TO REDUCE MASSIVE PAIN I WAS MAXED OUT ON FENANL. AND OXCONTION . ... DURING OPERATION NEUROSURGERY DRILLED OUT NERVE ROOT, VERTIBRA TO REDUCE PAIN ,,, IN SIATIC NERVE RIGHT HAND SIDE .... FAILURE ... IMPLANT COLLAPSED , IT WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST 25 YEARS , 2009 SAME DOCTOR OPENED ME UP AGAIN TH SAME QUACK ! OF A DR DID SAME PROCEDURE-AGAIN REMOVING more Bone from VERTEBRA L4_L5 .... AGAIN EPIC FAILURE OF IMPLANT COLLAPSED IN ONTOP OF ITS SELF ... THEN I WAS LEFT IN PAIN FOR 12 MONTHS BETWEEN SEPSIS - KIDNEY DISEASE DIABETES AND CHRONIC HEART DISEASE DUE TO A FAILD MICRODISECTOMY 2011, CAUSED A CAUDIA EQUINA SYNDROME. 2011 . IN HOSPITAL FOR CHRISTMAS...2013 NEW MAN . DID GOOD JOB FINALLY RESEARCHED THE DOCTOR.... GOT A FULL SPINAL FUSION . . LIVE WITH FAILD BACK SYNDROME AND CAUDIA EQUINA. AGED 44 . PAIN 4 REST OF MY LIFE , UNTIL I GET THE COVID-19 .... ILL BE CHECKING OUT ....
That is staggering I am a carpenter and i would ashamed if i failed to hit my mark that badly with a screw its staggering, I also have a fairly rare and interesting spine condition that started as the result of a 40ft cliff fall in 1970 at the age of aged 15 years old, I sustained a compression fracture dislocation of my lumber spine Dislocated the lower 3 cracked the 3rd in 3 places and compression fracture between 3rd and 4th, I had almost no neurological deficit at the time; and have had no surgery it all self fused, I had a fall in 2015 broke 5 ribs and a scan at that time,
I also have the rare bone L6 for interest, to the situation and i have a full copy of the scan, It appears on the scan that I am developing some real problems with my thoracic spine though am having some difficulty gettting this confirmed,
Thank You for a most informative video,
What's with the shiners? That docters is hungry!!!
How sad, I went through a similar situation back in 2005, the first surgeon messed my lower back up, the pain was worse after the surgery, I kept telling him something was wrong, I was going numb from my lower back all the way down both legs to my feet, I finally was able to go back and see said Dr, only for him to say nothing was wrong, I funny had enough of his B.S. and went to the emergency room at the university of Chicago, they set me up with an appointment with the head of neurosurgery for the hospital. He sent me for all kinds of x-rays, mri's and ct-scans, finely the Dr found out the first surgeon left a big hunk of bone on my nerve, so, he set me up for surgery to remove the bone fragment and fix whatever he could. He was able to remove the bone fragment, but kept telling me how sorry he was that he couldn't do anything else, because my spine fusion was a mess, it took him over 2 hours just to remove the bone fragment on my nerve, he told the bone fragment almost severed my nerve in half, and he told me there was no surgery or grafts that he could do to fix the nerve, he sent me up with an appointment with a pain Dr, who, said she could only give me pain meds to help with the pain, and that was all. It is December 29 2019, and I still have to take pain meds to help me with the pain and help me be able to get around and do things, I will never have a quality of life (as she put it), even taking the meds, I won't, she said it's something I will have to deal with, I still have really bad pain, the medication helps, but not I wish it would, she said she could give me stronger meds, but I refused, because they are highly addictive, even the meds I take now are addictive, but not as bad as the meds she was talking about. How I wish I could go back in time an either never have the surgery or had a better surgeon do the operation, even if it meant going to another state. That was the first surgery I had ever had, I didn't know any drs, so I called my insurance company to help me out, they were the ones who referred me to the first surgeon........
Nerve problems, I need to find out why I still have nerve problems
Sorry to hear about your pain and issues. I've had 4 spine surgeries that never did any good to stop leg pain and now I am going to have a total hip replacement and who knows how that may affect my nerve pain, so I really understand what you have been through. Pain meds have never done my any good so no point in taking them. Hope you can get some relief.
Ok thanks.
Life time situation😔
@@rizzlerazzleuno4733 why did you have so many spine surgeries?
@@imveryhungry112 In attempt to stop nerve pain.
Thanks to you, I was able to diagnose my husband's cervical problems, and got a surgeon whom fixed the problem, from a previous neurosurgeon that should not be practicing medicine.
Was his name. Dr Citow? Same thing happened to me. Had to have a huge revision surgery to fix it.
I would love for you and your friends to look at my case to see what you think. After watching this video i became worried about where I am standing with my fusion and laminectomy, because I've become decreasingly worse since my surgery. I went back and looked at the findings and it talked about screws being out of place like you described in this video, it also said something to the affect
FINDINGS:
1. There are postoperative changes of posterior segmental fusion with screw and rod construct at L4-L5. The left L4 pedicle screw breaches the outer cortex of the left pedicle. The left L5 pedicle screw breaches the anterior lateral cortex of the L5 vertebral body. There is lucency surrounding the left L5 pedicle screw raising concern for possible loosening of the screw. The hardware is intact.
2. There are decompressive laminectomies of L4 on L5.
3. There is a persistent grade 1 anterior spondylolisthesis of L4 on L5. This is stable from prior imaging. No new malalignment is seen.
4. Imaging was performed from the lower aspect of T11 through the S2 segment. The imaged vertebrae maintain their height. No fractures are noted. There are no osteolytic nor osteoblastic lesions identified.
5. The sacroiliac joints appear normal.
6. No paraspinal soft tissue abnormalities are seen.
T11-T12: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing.
T12-L1: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing.
L1-2: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing.
L2-3: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing.
L3-4: No posterior disc abnormality, central canal stenosis, or neural foraminal narrowing.
L4-5: There is a decompressive laminectomy defect. There is significant streak artifact from the orthopedic hardware. The normal soft tissue planes are disrupted due to the surgery. The spinal canal and the foramina are not adequately evaluated at this level.
L5-S1: There is no significant osseous encroachment on the spinal canal at this level. Degenerative endplate osteophyte and facet arthrosis is causing mild to moderate left and mild right foraminal stenosis.
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IMPRESSION:
There are postoperative changes of posterior segmental fusion with screw and rod construct at L4-L5. The left L4 pedicle screw breaches the outer cortex of the left pedicle. The left L5 pedicle screw breaches the anterior lateral cortex of the L5 vertebral body. There is lucency surrounding the left L5 pedicle screw raising concern for possible loosening of the screw. The hardware is intact.
You need to go to Another Neurosurgeon and and have him read your M.R.I.and help you. The Dr. Who caused this will not help you cuz they won't admit they did anything wrong.Find a good Neurosurgeon and make and appointment with him and go see a good Neurosurgeon.It looks like your current Neurosurgeon didnt know what hes doing. Do it quickly because this is dangerous. Having a screw poking through the bone and hitting soft tissue where you have blood vessels is not good.
@@whendis.roberts9903 I agree I've tried seeing others but no one will take me
@@Imaghostfreak67 Where do you live? What City and State and what type of insurance? I will try to find someone to help you. I'm very good at finding good Doctors and Neurosurgeons and Surgeons. You deserve the best care that there is. You are Gods Child and God wants the best for you. You must not give up.
I live in Newaygo, MI the 2 closest cities for me are Grand Rapids, and Muskegon. My original Neurologist was Dr. Ali out of spectrum health neurology in Grand Rapids. I'm so frustrated.
Dude, I mean Dr., I wanted to see the video but couldn’t take my eye off that beautiful rig behind you. I love PRS guitars. Mesa Boogie isn’t too shabby either. Well done! After watching this video, I’m absolutely terrified of my upcoming ALIF for L5-S1 in a few weeks. Having a great level of mechanical ability is important to drive a screw into the right spot. I waited for a long time to do this surgery with back pain on and off for 15 years or so. I’m going to be 55 yrs old in a month which is why I went ahead and decided to do it. Hopefully I’m not a case study for you in the future.
I’m going to now watch your video on reading an mri
Thanks for teaching us sir.
Incredibly well articulated video, thank you.
Ha.... I didn't even catch the joke.... well articulated video, terribly articulating vertebrae.
Hello dear doctor. I don't know how to thank you, how to thank for your help. I play your graet videos over and over. Thnak you so much. You are the best doctor I know.
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
Hello, this is a good question and confusing for people. The L3 nerve root runs down the lateral spine and courses right in front of the root of the anterior part of the transverse process of L4. So that misplaced pedicle screw could indeed be rubbing the L3 nerve root.
what will you do for a disk that is 11 milimeters out of my spine and also have a fractured on the same place this young man has.
the doctor who will perform surgery on me say fusion a metal plate and screws with a braket holding it in place to help with the fusion. L5
S1 I don't like the idea of having hardware in my body but the pain is horrible 25 year and counting can't take it anymore.
also the fact I won't be able to bend forward or turn side to side is scary thought.
I feel so sorry for this patient, I myself have had two spinal fusions in my lumber spine seven and a half years ago that was a complete failure after visiting my surgeon so many times and told there was nothing he could see that would be causing my extreme pain, he refused to do anything about it now after seeing another surgeon Im having more surgery to rectify the original surgery I have been diagnosed with a collapsed disk and servere flat back syndrome
The hospital is a training hospital The Royal North Shore Public Hospital. The original surgeon who is a top surgeon at this hospital his name is Dr Hartin.
I've had three back operations and am still in hellish pain. I would bet that my MRI would look like this or worse. Much of the time my life is not worth living and the doctor says, "Well, I fixed you." Oh hell yes.....he fixed me, all right.
Sorry , I feel your pain I had a Trifusion in 2015 on L4 L5 S1 and the same here , they can’t shut the pain off so the put a implant in me , a spinal nerve stimulator , so between the implant tv music and my computer is some of the things I have to do to help me not think of the pain I live in everyday of my life . Now they want me to take this test to run the dye through my spine to see all of the damage that is there .
I set my reports and scans to Dr. Roger Thorne at Scripps in La Jolla CA. He Saved my life.
I had 2 failed fusions in 2010 c4-c7 and 3rd c3-c4 in 2015. Live in constant pain!!
Hi Dr Gilliard. Very informative video. I feel so bad for this patient. I know what is to be in constant pain. I had a two level neck fusion in 2020 that I am still suffering from pain. I had multiple imaging done and no Dr has been able to tell me what’s wrong. It’s frustrating how a person in pain is dismissed by these surgeons.
I dig your Mesa Boogie and PRS Doc!
So scared. After multiple epidural injections, nerve root blocks and multiple spinal fluid leaks and three spine surgeries later the horrific problems continue now I’m being faced with these nerve ablation procedures. I’m highly concerned because the aftermath of epidural injections in my neck left me with Essential Tremors since 2017. I’m highly concerned now having anyone get that close to my nerves in my spine. “Is it just me or is there anyone else out there experiencing such a huge amount of bad luck with their spine”
I'm really sorry to hear. How are you doing after a year later? I'm going through some difficult times myself
Well, that was scary. Just had a consultation with an orthopedic surgeon today about my L5 S1 problem and chronic lower back pain. Last scan was two years ago so he has ordered another. Now I am frightened.
just get a new spine fusion :)
There is something that may need to be checked. I also have a failed fusion than nobody will address. I've been back and forth with doctors and even got a new surgeon to look. My original surgeon suggested that he take out the hardware, but I refused because my pain was so bad with my original fusion surgery it required a 7 day hospital stay and 10 day rehab stay. That was 2019
In the July 2022, I severely dislocated and broke my ankle. After 4 months and so far 10 hyperbaric oxygen treatments, we are finding I may have a hardware problem. I still have open sores over my screws which won't heal. No predisposing conditions that would cause this. Every step I take is painful. Still have periods of shooting severe pain
I have asked to have my hardware removed as soon as it's feasibly possible. The soonest they will do it is April 2023. Anyway, if that stops the pain, it may be my back still hurts because of the hardware. I'm going to ask for it to be removed.
⚠️ I finally was in so much pain after years with a lumber fusion wearing out the next disc up that I had an artificial disc Spinal Kinetics M6-L implanted at the bad disc level. Severe pain stopped immediately. Had to travel and pay cash, but it was an investment in getting my life back. It’s been three years and I am not perfect, but I am excellent. ⚠️ I also recently had the old fusion hardware removed. That made a notable difference as well. People with fusions without bone density disorders should consider it after two years post fusion if in pain or discomfort. I felt the rods jamming at the base of my spine (a dull impingement feeling) especially on a hard surface chair and could not walk or be on my feet long without excessive inflammation. Two screws broke as well. What opened my eyes is a surgeon said there was little room down there. So let’s get this straight, I am causing friction and scar tissue as I walk...
where did you travel too to get the Kinetics M6?
Hi Mike, Barcelona Spine Center Dr. Pablo Clavel is the chief neurosurgeon (nice people). He will do a SKYPE call 1/2 hour for I think it was $300 or $400 euros (credited to surgery if you go forward). The process is where you send in your medical records and MRI by email (I used Dropbox link). The review is free. They will send you what he indicates is the issue and surgical recommendations. Then you can do the SKYPE. They take credit cards. The web site is www.doctorclevel.com and it has all the forms you need for medical history. He may recommend the Spinal Kinetics M6 or the ESP. Same price. I have both a double level in the neck with ESP and the single level lumbar with Spinal Kinetics. If you are serious about this you can email me with your phone at howsecureareyou @ Gmail. Com and we can talk on the phone - I did that with a couple people on a blog that Clavel did the surgery and that amplified my confidence in the entire process. When emailing add a subject line with something like Spinal Kinetics or Dr Clavel follow through. Keep in mind this is medical tourism and is not likely covered by health insurance unless you have a progressive company funded coverage that covers this. I paid $34k for the double level neck and $26k for the lumbar. It’s up to your CPA to advise you on medical deductions.
Hi Mike, I should mention... The Spinal Kinetics M6-C passed its “FDA One Level” approval earlier this year. That is Cervical only (neck). After one level, the company follows through with approval for up to two levels. The Spinal Kinetics M6 has been a standard in Europe for 14 years. FDA is very expensive and slow. A very interesting story in and of itself. The fact is, the artificial disc was invented in Germany in the mid-70’s and the center of excellence in artificial discs world wide is in Germany. The US has been slow and most of the discs are physically hard. The Spinal Kinetics and ESP discs have a cushion center that acts like a shock absorber - emulating a real human disc. When you walk the Spine is compressed every time your foot passes contact with the floor. Read up on ASD Adjacent Segment Degeneration because that is what you want to help avoid.
@@jrchicago9216 Hi again, so I went to the Doctor who put two ADR(Pro Disc-C) at C5-6 and asked if he used the Activ_L lumbar disc and he told me he uses the Pro disc_L in Lumbar and because of degenerative disc disease I am not a canidate according to FDA RULES. He has done two lumbar levels
Hi Mike, Degenerative Disc Disease (DDD) is thrown around a bit generically. You may desire to obtain another opinion. If the bone itself is degrading that’s important (many women post menopausal) suffer from this. However, many US surgeons are not performing lumbar artificial disc implant surgeries, for various reasons (experience and complications). Here are some you could consider sending your MRI and medical history to that may have a more experienced take on this. Check out UA-cam’s from Dr Michael Janneson in Denver. In Chicago at RUSH Dr Harel Deutch. In Seattle area, Swedish Spine Dr. John Hsiang are some of the most experienced in the US.
Keep in mind the US is behind and does not like lumbar implants. Many mistakes were made too and there is a gun shy atmosphere as doctors don’t want to have an insurance record of having short term revisions - having to go back in an remove the disc and fuse it. The unfortunate reasons are lack of experience and the limitations with the disc they chose to carry. Insurance is another BIG blockade that the fusion is cheaper and that limits the experience of the surgeon and is not as good for the patient. Find the real expert is the moral of the story. The small inconvenience in travel is nothing in the big picture of getting your life back. When I went to Barcelona it was at first a big decision - checking out the hospital certification, calling a couple patients, etc. When I went, it was no different than any US top hospital. In fact, it was a fun experience, the hospital was modern, squeaky clean, the room overlooked the Mediterranean Sea and the staff was very pleasant. They even had an interpreter over night just in case there was a language barrier with the night staff (less English). When you get up an stand and 80% of the pain is gone, the experience turns to joy.
If you want, you can also send your MRI and health records to the surgeon I used in Barcelona for a free email response review. He also will do a half hour skype call for I think it’s something like $350 euros. If by chance you do use him, that fee is subtracted from the surgery cost. It’s about getting a clear answer from someone who has performed thousands of lumbar artificial disc surgeries with the best artificial disc made on the planet (the US is way behind because of the FDA and politics). Www.doctorclavel.com has all the forms online. I sent my MRI via an email link from DROPBOX. At least you would have a definitive answer that you are qualify medically for an artificial disc or not and know the reason why rather than the generic DDD excuse.
You have to determine if it’s best to know the truth by the experts that perform thousands of these. How important is that to you?
What a nightmare. Be Very Careful.
So sad. Legal action required
I had a back fushion of the L4 L5 SEPT 3rd 2021. I ended up with a back infection and have had nothing but problems since. I now found out 3 of the screws are broke and the 4th screw is on the verge of breaking. I also have a grade 1 1/2 almost 2 slippage. Im in severe pain. My doctor said I need emergency surgery but he can't seem to get me in until July 29th. Today I'm debating going to the ER for the pain. Im so worried about my back.
to me, the the second MOST HORRIFYING thing in this video is that this doctor won't tell us what country and what hospital/doctor botched this surgery... that information will save countless people from having to go through the same thing!!!!
Obviously a communist country, you know, just like they are trying to turn America into......
Do what we say or we will call you crazy.
I had 2 failed spine fusions in 2010 and 2011. The first one had to be repeated due to a screw coming loose. I'm in worse shape now than I was prior to ever having the first surgery.
I had terrible left leg pain, the neurosurgeon said I had to have a laminectomy to correct. Went for surgery on 2/2021 but he did a fusion on l2-l5 and s1. In recovery I felt losing mobility in my RIGHT leg. I was told that during surgery that blood pressure dropped in my leg and damaged my nerves. Now I have drop foot, my toes are numb on both feet, the skin on my left leg is numb along with the skin on my lower right side and butt cheek plus my bowels now have a mind of their own. After 2/12 mos. of rehab to no avail I had an EMG 9mos.later and was told the nerves in my leg were fine but the problem is in my l5 from surgery. I was scheduled for more surgery on 11/2021 but my vascular surgeon stopped it and my primary didn't recommend it because I could end up in worse shape that I am now. So I guess I'll be a cripple for the rest of my life.
Oh my! I'm really sorry to read this. I would get a second opinion from doctors not associated in any way (and far away from) with the surgeons who apparently created this mess. Good luck!
If you could help me, I'd be greatly thankful. Had a fusion 10/2018. Can't do too much without pain. Not much different & even worse after surgery. Had laminectomy, fusion of L4 & L5 with cage graft and decompression.....still feeling horrible.
Dr. Roger Thorne at Scripps in la jolla fixed my failed fusion. Recommend 100%.
Hello. Hope you are feeling better. It happened to me also..bad back surgery. Loss use of my left leg..etc etc.. looking for a good back Dr. In Maryland.. to maybe fix my problem..
I had the alif procedure @ L5/ S1 in Nov 2020. Sciatica is worse in my left leg now, and has even moved into my left arm. Constant pain in my left back along with muscle spasms in my left leg and unbalanced at times. Ugh...
Thank you Dr. for your time and passion for making people walk again, and freeing them from pain. You’re a gift from God.
I am horrified by what the butcher did to the poor patient. Unbelievable, that he is even allowed to keep operating is beyond comprehension!!! That butcher probably thinks he’s the best at what he does. Cocky monster 👹.
God bless you and god bless the poor patients that this butcher has probably destroyed, already .
I hope this guy gets the best help after what he has been through with these other doctors,, and get out of the country you are in and I pray that you get healthy and pain Free 🙏✌🏼✌🏼💖👍💯🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Some needs a good lawyer. This is EASILY a 2-4M settlement.
I have that case damaged nerve right leg
Yikes!!! So sad and scary. I've been told I'm a candidate for lumber spinal fusion. One Dr was ready to do it immediately and another Dr said I wasn't in enough pain to do it. Both recommended PLIF? It seems they still do this procedure in the U.S. I'm going to put surgery off as long as I can.
I had the same surgery on 01/08/2019, after a year, I have more pain than I did before the surgery, my 3 hour surgery turned in to a 5 hour surgery because the membrane around my spinal cord was torn during surgery. I wish I had never had it done, I had severe nerve pain on my right leg all the way to my big toe. I cannot enjoy the life I had even before surgery, I used to play golf 4-5 days a week, Now I cannot play 2 days in a row or I end up on the couch with my foot and let on a pillow. My insurance company denied my claim, they paid the facility but would not pay the surgeon in full, it went through 3 appeals and denied because the surgeon's decision to fuse my l5-S1 was not "Medically Necessary" so that tells me the surgeon messed up, I ended up having to pay the surgeon's bill myself or they would of sent me to collections. I cannot believe my pain I have in the right hip clear to my toes, it's horrible. I am lost and don't know what to do about it.
im really sorry to hear about this! Whats been your experience with physical therapy? might that help?
Start taking CBD Hemp Oil, Thc Edibles, Thc Liquid. Should zap your pain away onc get you get into a good process of taking it
you might just need a new fusion :)
I'll pray to God for you. May he reduce your pain?? And heal your nerves??
You mentioned drs can be sued for what they did. What if you didn’t know that’s what they did and the statute of limitations was expired? Drs shouldn’t get away with things like this. At the very least they should get their asses kicked!!!
Both of these procedures, what it looks like to be were done in a Monday.. no doctor wants to admit their fault- esp with this consequence.
What works for me- If I get a feeling I’m getting short changed in regards to treatment or care- I go get a second opinion from another health care professional. Instead of getting brow beaten by the same physician.
Thanks for the video- 👍🏻
Unfortunately, in this patient's country you are not allowed to change doctors or sue.
Thank you for the. very informative video. I have a botched laminectomy. Not sure how to proceed. Constant pain even with an SCS
Hi Douglas, thanks to you i learned everything about spine. I came from Croatia and no one accept black disc as a source of pain. I sufferend since 15, and now im 32. I had 2 artificial disc in Barcelona 5 months ago L3-L4 & L4-L5 and i feel reborn.
For that patient if fusion didnt fuse, there is a real chanse to remove it all and insert ADR. Thanks for informative video, speccialy about annular tears which i had and noone accepted it as a pain source...
THAT'S AWESOME , BEST MOVE YOU EVER MADE GOING TO EUROPE FOR SURGERY ! ! !
Da M hi, can you guys refer any EXCELLENT surgeons? I’m suffering with severe pains and can’t risk my money on sub standard surgeons 😭
General cutaneous syndrome. I had the same exact thing. If he has burning like fire and knife pain. They hit the nerve.
I didn't even get far enough for you to show the screw going into the nerve. I've had 23 back surgeries, 5 drs royally screwed up.
Poor thing the pain must be unbearable
I have 8 screws,3 rods cage , fusions pushed out of my back I cannot walk upright sense my surgery . I’m in so much pain and now I’m told the upper back is collapsing and no one can do anything. There’s isent help and I’ve have pain down both legs neck but I could just give up I became disabled because of my surgery. Doctors around here will not see a patient until 3 years after a failed surgery if ever. I waited many years and now I’m pretty much done
27:18 is his L5s1 ok? Why is the posterior so thin compared to the front
All this giving me the clear picture that the Dr who performed this wasn't had any hand on experience n had tested his inexperienced skills on an innocent patients.
That dr shud me punished wherever he's in this world.
God please help the patient who's in a miserable pain.
HE's more than likely killed himself because new laws on pain meds...NO ONE gets anything no matter how much they're suffering. HORRIBLE governement.
Zelda Zelda oh my I hope not but I don’t want him in pain either. So sad.
Zelda Zelda where’s that?
Took me 12 yrs to get a mri again in 2015. Been on ss supplement want to put screws an bolts in my lower back
In 2006 I had a car accident that left me very bad. My first surgery was to extract the fluid from the disc and push the disc since it was very close to the spine. I was 21 years old. If you saw that my bones were not strong to withstand this type of surgery and unfortunately I have lived with pain because everything collapsed puncturing nerves and everything is stuck I took hydrocodone 10 mg 325 which at least helped me control the pain for more than 4 years I didn't even go back to check my back because in fact they took away all the medications. Sometimes I can go weeks without sleep because I get anxiety in my legs that I don't feel them I fist my legs because it's frustrating to live with that feeling. They recommended that I wear a stimulation machine with morphine and another with electricity but I don't want to continue having surgeries that are not going to give me back my joy living with back pain is not living and the depression it causes you is worse

Same , they took me of the pain medication because of opioid hysteria no matter if you live in agony and pain every second that is our stupid Canadian government.
I'll pray to God for you. I hope he lessens your pain and heal your nerves. Amen
11:35 they could have killed him!? Wth? This is rediculous ! And it got worse! Horrible outcome.
Ask your surgeon for a cortical midline approach.
I have spondyloloptosis.I started years ago,with grade 2 spondy. I did not want many surgeries ..adjacent issues etc and I am a life long steroid dependent asthmatic.
I live in pain daily
Is that scar tissue in the skin covering the epidural and facets?
I had a final surgery in 2011 after a work related incident,I have been in constant pain since,Doctor Steven Jacobs of Fishkill NY giving an 80% chance of success whom was a brain surgeon as I was that because the spine is alert of the rain.i have also met a patient of his at the pain management that he performed the same surgery on which failed.It has been 12 years and I had to leave NY due to the cold weather I became fed ridden and depressed,I was but on Fentenoyl & hydromophine
Which made me addicted and have never take drug.i I am now in Las Vegas ,I have gone through 28 day withdrawal.i have new doctors and have been told that I will live in pain the rest of my life.People see you and don’t know how painful living with chronic pain is.thank you for listening.i wasabandon also by the doctor when he saw that Ii was still in pain,also when he took the staples out of my back he dropped the instameny picked it up without cleaning it and continue using it my family member who is a nurse confronted him asking for his license number telling him the back surgery has a high infection rate and he called me 20times in one day asking who she was trying to talk to me.i told him I felt like he wronged me and treated me as if the failed surgery was my fault.also I was told that after surgery I should have lyes flat for 48 hours but was tiered by nurses several times .thank God that there are epilepsy like you that listen.i have asked if I could have revisions surgery and was told no .this is very hard on not just the resin but on peer families.
I am passing that same thing my doctor tells me that the surgery went well but now I have more pain and now I am passing out frequently it has been almost 2 years from my surgery he won’t take a second review
L5 pars is the what I figured he needed fixed with fusion and it wasn’t addressed!?
I also have congenital stenosis. I had a fusion in late 2018. Since the fusion I have been in severe pain. Just found out I will need another surgery. I’m really considering seeking council regarding my situation.
Are you in pain worse now than before your first spine surgery? They want to do a cervical fusion on me :(
Had a back surgery in 2003. Went though the front then the back..l5 S1. Loss the use of my left leg. Got 65 percent of it back. Loss muscle mass. My leg is so skinny...worse mistake of my life..Dont know what to do after 19 years..
I’d be happy to send you my case if you’d like to use it for a class or case study, I’d actually enjoy watching the production 😊
I need advice please.
who decided what kind of metal will be used for the fusion on the lumbar?
I have been told that the only material that the body doesn't reject is platinum or something like that. help me .......!
This is me to a T. Exactly same situation my main pain is in the outside of my right calf it feels like someone is giving me a chairlie horse every step. Also had a tib/fib put back together and the 2 screws are busted in half on the same leg. And having no family or friends or money living on PWD ( Vancouver B.C. Canada ) 🇨🇦 is just over 1200 a month . Rent for a 1 bedroom apt goes for around 1200 to 1800 .I went to school yo become a pipe fitter and obviously that's out the window. Now 42 think I'll try to become an outreach worker part time. So we'll see.......Cheer's.
can the patient sue ?
Do you have time to look at my case?
Those x-rays from 2015 and you noticing it now did you crack is back by chance
I was used as a ginniepig for a double lumbar fusion in 2014 that has been and is a nightmare, pain has taken over my life, please consult with me as No one seems to be able to stop this Nero surgeon from doing this to people 😢 I never needed the surgery to begin with and have mri reports showing before an after , I didn't sign up for this off lable surgery, parts , he's still practicing 2022 help in Michigan
Unnecessary laminectomy L-3-4 part S-1; 2004 severe pain since.
Dr nick from the simpsons was definitely behind these surgeries
Or Dr Hartman from Family Guy
Hi my name is Ramiro Del bosque I have had several lower back surgeries and my screws keep loosening I have 10 screws in my lower back. What can I do because I’m still having a lot of pain.
Can a loose pedicle screw reattach with nutrition and exercise? Or a relief of pain?
No, it's not likely.
Hi Dr. Whats the difference between radicular pain vs radoculopathy
Radiculopathy is a diagnosis made when the neurological examination is positive (i.e., decreased reflex, decreased sensation, and/or decreased muscle strength). Radicular pain is an adjective which describes a pain that radiates down either the upper or the lower extremity in a fairly narrow band. Its often dermatomally located.
im having a fusion in 4 days time. After watching rhis, i dont know if i should proceed or not.
I kept going back to my Drs and surgeons to say my left prosthetic cemented hip was painful, down the front of my leg and groin, when I walked. It took 7 years before the did anything and had to redo the hip, it has now started again the same symptoms they are telling me the same thing again, that it is fine. ?? So I will just wait until I am crippled before I go back to them, one physiotherapist said basically it's all in my mind.
Here we are in 2023, My surgeon definitely thinks my L4/L5 fusion did not get enough bone growth and that is causing the pain since surgery. I will say all the leg pain and sciatic pain was gone day 1 after surgery, but I have had pain and still have pain anytime I bend forward. My question is the original surgery was done from the back but this time he wants to do the revision at L4/L5 but coming from the front, How will he remove the screws? Can it be done from the front or will he have to do that from the back and do the rest from the front?
I am 72 years old and have undergone spinal surgery in september 21 for spinal stenosis and L3-L4-L5 listhesis.My pain and leg problems have remarkably improved.but I have developed bladder hypotonia .I have to do self caterization twice a day.i would like know the chances of recovery.
He’s had triple bilateral facet fusion with screws????
is there any age limit of patient for spinal fusion
Hi, I have a question. I had my scoliosis surgery when I was 12, Im now 26. Im thinking about getting it removed since its been so long and Im having muscle strain and my back Is tired all the time. My hips joints are starting to as well.. Do you think the spine is fused enough to get it removed without recurving in the future. Thanks
I am going through this right now .
What can go wrong with fusion? Any information on the minimally invasive procedure called OLLIF.
CDaeda i have had extensive back surgeries (23). I had a friend I referred to one of my drs at the time, who had fixed another dr's screw up. He did this approach and had a hard time recovering. I had had an anterior approach that went horribly wrong. Just like any risks of going anaesthesia, there is always a certain percentage that that approach could have issues. My anterior approach is a 3% chance that my bowels would shut down. Well I was that 3%, for 14 days no food and had an NG tube up my nose down to my stomach bringing up anything that went down. They had knicked just above my umbilical and caused a hernia. That I can't get a dr within a 100 mile radius of that dr to fix it. Also they never sewed my muscles back properly so I can barely stuck in my stomach- I've invested in a lot of spanks. I'm not sure where your from but if you're in Florida, I can give you the top neurosurgeon in the world and one of the leading Orthopaedic. He used the Mazor* robot on my back that was the largest back surgery done at that time. Ibe had more success have posterior approaches than anything. They all say these OLLIF,TLIF,ALIF approaches are better. Safer. Less recovery etc. But having had these different approaches,also my mom, have had problems versus the original surgery they all learned, the posterior approaches have had as much if not better recovery. I wish there was a way to post a photo of my back with all my hardware and scars. Always get a second opinion and that you're dealing with the BEST surgeon in your state. Both of mine I reccomend are over 3 hrs away. And its worth every minute, mile and gas money I spend.
CDaeda good luck in which ever surgery you have. I hope I didn't scare you but after what I have been thru I make sure people are educated in making the best decision with a 2nd or 3rd opinion, without the other drs opinions.
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I have undergone a similar operation on the 25th of April 2023..
Right after the operation i have been suffering from burning pain on my outer right thigh. The doctor advised me that the pain will disappear with time. The pain is still there. Please advise me what to do.
I live in Africa, in Namibia.
Yes I will be getting a hold I would like see your thoughts on a spine stimulators. The pain centers are pushing these on patients. Like they are working for them and I just feel they have a kick back putting these in and are they worth it when you had 8 surgeries and still have bone problems ? And been living with adhesive arachnoiditis. I will email you thank you
Hello I had the same complain both legs on pain for a year 6 months de infuse my back cause my bone weee shifting. But I still have pain on legs and now new pain on my buttock .please help what should I do I’m always on pain pills .I can’t work ok because of pain.
I am in the same boat. Had 360 spinal fusion in 1997. S1 L5 L4. Bone graph taken off left illact joint. Now I have unstable SI joints. 2003 they took our hardware because pedicle screw in spinal nerve. Now I have 2 more herniated disc above fusions. Pain so bad. Also 2 herniated in middle of back. Pain doctor said he want treat me anymore if I don't get into a surgeon. I have been trying to but workers comp is holding it up. Then this pain doctor cut my pain meds to two hydrocodone break through instead of three. What happened to do no harm on to heir oath. I'm 64 and the pain is getting so bad. God help us
Would this be malpractice in USA?
If you got care that is less than
what could be provided by a similarly trailed and qualified person and it resulted in harm to the patient then yes it is malpractice. People can’t guarantee outcomes but you should be getting care that would be expected of a similar professional. Nowadays, the screws are guided in real time with a program that synchronizes with a CT scan of the spine. Then xrays are taken to confirm placement. Maybe other countries don’t have that technology but the United States does.
PLEASE HELP - I AM FINDING SOMETHING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
11:35: isn't it the L4 exiting nerve root? Given this is the L4 vertebrae. How can it be L3?
I thought at L4-L5 disc level you have the exiting L4 nerve root flowing and traversing L5 nerve root in the thecal sack. ???
26:25: Same thing. If we are looking at the L3 vertebrae. Shouldn't it be the L3 exiting nerve root next to the screws in the extra foramin?
16:48 - It made sense to do a fusion in my opinion, because he had an annular tear in the disc at L3-L4. Although it could be argued because his disc looks healthy.
ALIF - is a great fusion for a patient becaues you don't end removing bone or tampering with the CE nerve. A posterior fusion can be quite destructive not to mention scar tissue formation around the CE nerve
Hi there Dr. Sir. I hope you are doing well. I only just heard of you but I'm glad I did. I myself have a situation. I'm a single 38 male in Ohio. Just had my 5th spinal revision last month on the 28th. Ehlers danlos/connective tissue disorders genetically run in my mother's side of the family. I don't meet the Brighton score but my mothers sister and two of her children have it on the scale. I don't because my mom and dad don't have it. Though we suspect they are "silent/non descript carriers" of some sort. I had my first surgery at around 14ish/15 years of age. I can't find anyone to pick up primary care or coordinate referrals for me which is what primary care is supposed to help do. I do have a primary care provider but he is leaving for a new fellowship in two months heading to the northwest part of the state. So I'll have to start over yet again, from the beginning. I have a pain Dr but he's not board certified to dispense properly for chronic pain cause he is mainly physiatry and sports medicine. So he can't meet my mme need. I'm a multimodal chronic pain patient whom knows his rights. I just need some legit advice.
Also I am fused from my hips to about my t10. Then also I may one day need surgery at the c5-6-7. Trying to avoid it. And I have a broken right ankle that has been broken since December 13, 2019.3 surgeries on it cause of their screw up. Now I have a broken myleolar bone(I think that is how it's spelled) in my foot and with connective tissue disorder and pre-diabetes and bad blood clotting factors like von willibrands.. And I've got a "collegiately educated" team of like 40 doctors I've assembled over the last two years since moving here.. And they are all just leaving me hanging. I've got about maybe 6 out of that 40 that actually Do pay attention.and your video here basically describes me to a t.
I had mononucleosis. I got it from a cut on my hand working in broken glass from finishing up some community service hours as a juvenile. Well I got a cut from a broken wine bottle I think it was, ended up sick in a bed on rotated saline drips borderline comatic.well at that time it was between 6&7th grade for me, In a 6 month span laying in a bed my body grew and grained 9 inches of height in that time. Which is normally or typically "unheard" of. First surgery as an emergency displaced my hips so badly so that my right leg is now over an inch longer. I've asked for lifts and no referrals no progress.as a patient whom "jumps through every hoop.. And has almost 20 years of good solid records that I don't divert meds or ask for extras, I stay within 100% compliancy with no risks on me to them. But they get so scared of the Dea and their prescriber numbers are more important. But they take oaths. And by "doing no harm" they are doing more actual harm and they are being Complicit to the problem. And that's why we have high over dose rates because people are are forced to buy street drugs that are cut with bad adulterants and they do them thinking its substance a, when it's substance b, and they have no tolerance for substance b. Or maybe they even have an allergy to b.
wow, those doctors need to be reported to the medical board or something, whoever is in control there in that country. like to know what country that was in.... clearly they have no biz doing surgery to ANYONE. I refused fusions cause they are not natural movement after and have problems like this OR longterm pain due to bones being cut like that are a risk higher for issues longterm. lucky i have great doctors that took me a long time with me and goes over the smallest detail and there every inch of way from after when you wake up to calling you in the evening for the first week. hundreds of good reviews. a doctor screws up this bad omg, no way would i have that same doctor redo it! is spearing someone a few times in spine a crime in that country?
I'm betting Canada.
Had a Fusion in April after I ruptured the same disc about 4 years after a microdiscectomy, and the doctor says at 12 weeks my bones are not fusing? Don't smoke drink or have diabetes? What happens if my bones don't fuse? Any ideas to help with this? Immediately after fusing no more leg and radiating pain but after 12 weeks don't feel any better than I did 3 weeks after? Back feels painful when I lean forward slightly or try and lift anything?
Be patient my friend.
It takes 6 to 8 months for a fusion to take place...
Thanks Kickdog69, the surgeons assistant seemed a little concerned and I was thinking man its only been 3 months but I could see it in his eyes.... I started taking Vitamin D and drinking more milk and Magnesium supplement and hope in the next 2 months some fusion starts on my end. I have only been walking mostly. Started doing some assisted lunges between two chairs hoping to strengthen the glutes which may help the lower back? He told me no motorcycle because of the vibration, and no jogging.
@@kickdog6934 Well a year and a half and no better now. I was patient but still in pain.
Who is the doctor???
I would never let any Medal shop worker do a Lumbar Fusion to my lower back , I've heard to many repeat bad story , imagine this , Tiger wood with his 500 millions had to have 3 Spinal Fusion ,you would think a guy like him that can afford the best surgeon to do it right the first Time ,what chance does a Dumb jock like us have under the knife the first time .
I have my records an cd of my last test they pushing i need to get a joints screws bolts to support my back in l5 l4 s1
This was done in Canada, right? We don’t get second opinions or choice of doctor here.
Hello, I was actually done in India.
That’s terrible. I live in the United States and I asked around to nurses and patients which spine doctor I should get. He is the same one that operates on the other surgeons in my area when they have a spine problem. I got an appointment within two weeks. I’m not a good candidate for surgery though…still a lot of back pain. A lot of people complain about the American Healthcare system but there are worse ones. Free doesn’t always mean better. There are definitely some surgeons I wouldn’t want to touch me.