The Cranberries: Zombie - A Powerful Protest Song | The Daily Doug | St. Patrick's Day - Episode 357
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2022
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm listening to one of the most widely known and powerful protest songs of all time: Zombie by The Cranberries. As we celebrate St. Patrick's Day today and pay tribute to our Irish friends, I take a deeper look into this song's backstory and influence. I hope you enjoy!
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“All war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.” John Steinbeck
“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent “. - Isaac Asimov
@Melor pelor So what changes anything?
Public opinion in a free society can solve A LOT! When this song came out there were random terrorist bombing all over Great Britain. After this bombing and this song public outrage was so high, even in Ireland that the IRA had to quit. Politics is difficult. Change is slow in a democracy, but it happens. Dictator's make fast changes that mostly are bad for everyone but the dictator. If people's view changes anything is possible. When we see a dictator is incompetent and stupid then THINKING can take the place of fear. Dictators are deposed.
@@rk41gator Not all dictators think only of themselves. I was born under a dictatorship in Finland. Urho Kekkonen was a dictator who said what the politicians should do and never took no as an answer. But he built the state of Finland as a social heaven for all the people by not letting business tell how things should be done. When he died all those politicians who he had not allowed to govern wrote books about what a monster that man was but all the people in Finland knew that they were just trying to bleacken the name of a good man. After his death the rightwing politicians have been dismantling Finlanbd social infrastructure and remind always how much it costs to upkeep it publicly and how cheap it will be when coimpetition is allowed. When actually business has to make profit and thus raises the price tag.
@@topilinkala1594 Healthcare should never be allowed 'for profit'. Profiting through others misfortune is morally corrupt, but in the Capitalist system it is the only option for now. Europe has good examples of how democratic socialism can work. Sure, a benevolent dictator can do wonderful things. But 'absolute power, corrupts absolutely' and what happens when he/she dies? If the next one a true monster you are stuck in a hole.
At least in a democracy, when a ruler proves corrupt or illegally tries to grab power, they can be thrown out. It is never perfect, and as we see, this process is fragile; so it is imperative for all members of a free society to be vigilant. It is only through a free press and knowledgeable citizenry that WE can keep the bad actors off the stage. It doesn't always work, not everyone will be happy; but to pray for a benevolent ruler is disaster waiting to happen. History time and again shows the folly. But when the public is educated, good can happen.
They were a great band, R.I.P. Dolores.
Yep
I've watched a lot of reaction videos for this song. It's an amazing song and heart wrenching video. But I want to thank you for giving some background and context to it all. I wish more people would do the research.
This song never fails to make me tear up. Rest in Peace Dolores. After her voice and lyrics, One of the most powerful parts of the song for me is the report of that snare drum. It sounds like gunfire.
This song was about/inspired by the last IRA bombing on the English mainland. Warrington, Saturday 20th March 1993, the day before Mother's Day, when the town centre was full of children buying flowers and presents for their mothers. I was there that day with my two very small children, one in a stroller. We were going to one of the stores to choose my husband a pair of trainers, but we were running late so we decided to go another time. Ten minutes later we would have been there, outside Scott's sports shop, where one of the bombs was planted. We heard it as we were going out of town towards our home. There could have been more than 2 tiny bodies that day. I couldn't listen to this song for years because it was so effective and reminded me so much of the event. Her keening was appreciated.
Her voice style is called "keening".- the action of wailing in grief for a dead person.
I couldn't remember the term in the moment! Thanks.
I understand keening is used primarily to express morning, perfect for this protest. The use of the same discordant repetitions give this song added power. It reaches deep into my heart.
@@Doug.Helvering hey Doug please review the cover of this by Bad Wolves, such a powerful cover and really does Dolores justice!
Saw them play this live in England in the 1990's. As a prog rock fan, I was dragged there by my wife, but it ended up being one of the best concerts I've ever been to! atb snack.
Who’s your fav prog band
As a crappy cover band guitar player from the middle of nowhere (erstwhile), we for a short while had an incredible female vocalist and played this in our set list... no other song caught the audience up as much as this simple tune. It really packs a punch and they would be "WTF just happened" when we got done. Good way to get the crowd on your side.
Music is powerful.
It’s kind of fun to play despite it being so incredibly repetitive. It just has drive.
I had the pleasure of meeting Dolores in Sarajevo in 1997. She was at the U2 concert as a fan not as a performer. She was very kind. I told her that the Cranberries - No Need to Argue CD was one of my favorites and one of only a handful I brought with me to Bosnia. RIP Delores, you certainly touched many lives with your music. Thanks Doug for choosing this song.
Riordan (RIP) had such a unique, haunting voice. This actually isn't my favorite piece in their catalog, but it just works. "Linger" is one that will get to you in other ways. Same with "Dreams".
Dreams and The Icicle Melts are my favorite among many others
And Dolores uses Sean-Nós techniques in her singing to make it sound even more Irish. Which is very appropriate as this style is used for laments.
Two chords, three chords, four chords It's all about the groove!!!
The '90's were such a phenomenal time for music across all genres. This album is one of those albums that really puts me back there and is one of the seminal albums of that decade. Cracking stuff.
The emotion in her voice gets me every time! Such a powerful song!
So glad you have chosen this today. As someone who grew up in England during the the 70s and 80s, this was that backdrop to my childhood. Watching the news and seeing bombs going off in public places was horrifying. So pleased when the Good Friday agreement actually brought some sense to it all
Yeah me too, it seemed there was always something on the news going on
I need to Hear Horslips songs today!
Trouble
Back to the 90s in a sec. Great song.
This has been my favourite song since I heard it for the first time. So powerful lyrically and musically. What makes the song for me, besides Dolores' performance of course, is the drumming. The way he uses the snare hits to drive the song is phenomenal.
Incomparable voice, incomparable band, incomparable song. Dolores O'riordan is from another world and she went back to there. To the heaven ☁☁☁☁🌣☁☁☁☁
Bless you for doing this Doug. I always love your insight, expertise and thoughts on the videos you put up.
yes 4 chords. And the same chords are played throughout the entire song! SO simple, and so good.
I don’t know if Dolores intended it, but there is a strong and apt connection to Fela Kuti’s song, Zombie, which also perfectly captures the anger and frustration felt by those who have to endure the evils of injustice and aggression. I’m thinking of the people of Ukraine tonight. Peace and love to all, from the Emerald Isle.
Excellent selection for today. I think the reason for the zombie reference is that zombies traditionally are said to have no soul, and have simple, mechanical, murderous motivations. Unthinking. Uncaring. Not a bad way to frame paramilitaries, of any persuasion, who are prepared to murder or maim innocents to get what they want.
A very appropriate song for the day, especially considering what that ultimate zombie, Vladimir Putin, is doing to Ukraine.
Happy St Patrick's Day, from the Emerald Isle itself.
yap, but Putin is not only ONE so far ... but like we all forget this or we act like idiots ... Russia, NATO, America are same shit but we have too much brainwashed people and this is very sad
Well I just said in another post that I didn't want to get into the politics of the Troubles, and then I have to see this. If this song be an analogy for the war in Ukraine, Putin would be the English. Ukrainians would be the Irish. And if Russia were to win and in some way impose its rule on Ukraine, be it as a republic of the Russian Federation, or a sort of "satellite" state, then Ukrainians violently resisting would be exactly the subjects of the song.
@@TheSequentCalculus No, it really wouldn't. The invasion of Ireland happened centuries ago. Those kids died because people chose to fight with the gun rather than the ballot box and they did not care who was caught in the crossfire. No one now, be they English, Irish or Scottish would condone what happened in the past or what happened in Warrington. We have to live in the present and look for ways to live together.
@@bobthebomb1596 You didn't understand what you read. "Zombie" is a song commenting on the actions of the Provos during the Troubles. The British were the occupiers, the Provos were resisting. In Northern Ireland, Britain acted as the colonial protector of a settler population. All this is equivalent to the Russians being the colonial protector of the Donbass separatists invading Ukraine, and the Ukrainians resisting that invasion. I am not talking about the methods, I'm talking about the relationship between the parties.
@@TheSequentCalculus The equivalence of what you are saying would be the UK bombing the crap out of and invading southern Ireland for supporting the IRA and their attacks on the independent north.
The last shot of the video is heart-wrenching!
I've been sad when I hear of the passing of a well known rock figure. I think the only times I have cried were on hearing of the death of Neil Peart and of Dolores. Such great losses not only for their music but for the poignancy of their lyrics.
Me too. Still mis them both. I think Neil had Irish roots too.
Thank you for sharing your opinion about the connections this song has to today’s events and what we need to do to address them.
Powerful song, but through the summer of 2001, a local teenage band practised this song every day in one of their bedrooms two doors away... Drove me nuts
Sorry about that!
Dolores' style of alternating her chest voice / head voice / growl / falsetto reminds me a bit of yodeling ... takes a lot of control to stay in pitch.
What a sad loss. Not only all those killed and injured during "The Troubles", but also Dolores who was taken from us MUCH too early!
Thanks for playing this one. The Warrington bombings were quite unusual. Warrington is very close to Liverpool, and, given our huge Irish connections, it was very unusual for the IRA to target this area. It came as an enormous shock that the Troubles were even reaching into our area.
By the way, sadly the video didn't play here (it must be a UA-cam geographical thing), all I got was a photo of the album cover - off to track down the video now. Thanks again, Doug! And Happy St. Patrick's Day!
Bless the Irish and everyone they meet.
I've always been very proud of my Irish heritage, it's traditions, and music. I grew up around traditional Irish music, and having my dad's birthday on St. Patrick's Day was extra special. I remember hearing this song and I wasn't a fan. I wasn't into her voice. I also never knew the message this song had. Now that i know it's deeper meaning, I have more of an appreciation for it. it takes me back to the days of hearing a few of Lennon's anti-IRA songs from the 70's. "If you had the luck of the Irish, you'd be sorry and wish you were dead. If you had the luck of the Irish, you'd wish you was English instead' Thanks for this, Doug.
I always imagine that the ending of this song is a bomb exploding. Maybe just me. Great choice Doug. By the way, I was commenting on this video (Zombie) quite a lot, urging people to get it to 1 billion views. I like to think it actually made a difference.🤣
So happy you have done this, it's one of my favorite songs, Dolores voice is amazing and the lyrics are so moving, hard for a tear not to well up in the corner of your eye. The Victoria Bomb in 1991, which killed one, I acctually walk past just before it went off, how lucky was I.
Being from Northern Ireland, and having been 8 years old when it all "kicked off", this is a song that hits home for me, and encapsulates the way many of us felt.
I shall have to try the Redbreast - I'm normally a Bushmills drinker (although I also recommend the "Feckin' Unbelievable Irish Whiskey" distilled in Co. Down).
Bushmills is very fine. YUM. But Jameson is also very popular. I hope they are allowed to sell it in Belfast. (said somewhat tongue-in-cheek)
Treated myself to a bottle of the Redbreast today . . . Rather nice :)
Just discovered your channel yesterday... love it!! Especially the prog stuff.
You should do one from the Spirt of Eden by Talk Talk, perhaps The Rainbow. All the tracks in that album are very special pieces of inspired music, and they actually work as a whole. Do the whole album!!
I was a fan of The Cranberries from their first album. When Zombie came out it was so leftfield to anything they had done. Its become iconic. I got a chance to see them live opening for R.E.M in 1995 & this song went down a storm.
A good choice of music and singing... Makes one think of what ARE we fighting for, every day.
Incredible performance all round from the band
This is the song that started me listening to rock. Love Dolores’s voice. Beautiful low notes. Beautiful green eyes. Happy St. Patrick’s Day everybody💚
Great song. Special atmosphere. Never took notice of the lyrics really. Still a magnificant song. There is in some way resemblance in band/guitar sound with Neil Young's Zuma album I suddenly realized...
Thank you so much for playing this Doug. I was in Manchester the night of the Oxford Road bomb, it’s something I’ll never forget. Senseless murder in the quest for power, fuelled by the excuse of religion. Any chance of reviewing Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2, another brilliant anti-troubles song?
The conflict in Ireland is not driven by religion. The two sides are of different religions because the indigenous population are Catholic and the Unionists who were transplanted there from Scotland are protestant. It's a political divide between those who would like a United Ireland and those who wish to remain part of the UK. Saying its about religion ignores that and seeks to invalidate the real issues.
@@catherinegillen9496 I think possibly I phrased this wrongly. I was trying to say that religion was being used as an excuse for those on both sides to assert power in Northern Ireland. For example, a ‘Catholic’ united Ireland on one side and the ‘Protestant’ Orangemen on the other.
Bad Wolves were supposed to make a cover of this with Dolores, but she passed away before the recordings.
They did it anyway, as a tribute to her:
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I have yet to hear anyone do justice to this song. Dolores was a beautiful human being.
Hey Doug Check out this version of Zombie. She was to sing with the band the next day in a recording studio but Committed Suicide in her hotel room the night before. The Bad Wolves guys incorporated her vocal track and made a Video with a person in gold paint representing Dolores.
@@christopherwhite54 check out how they used her voice track in their recording.
I’ve heard it a few times. Really liked it.
for sure, doug should 100% react to this too. make it happen, youtube community.
Thanks for this video, Doug. This is an awesome song. It's sad that the meaning hits so hard right now...
A great choice for St Patrick's Day. Dolores' death was a huge loss for Ireland.
Sad to say that was from Irish Americans that the I.R.A. got far too much of their funding.
Sad also that the sectarian little Statelet of N.I. was funded for decades from the UK. Dead Catholic children don't make the headlines unfortunately.
Sad to say the unionist paramilitaries and British army were funded by taxpayers
As it happens, my family and I flew into the Emerald Isle on this day (we're Scottish Celts, but, of course, our roots come from Ireland). Love this song, mourn the circumstance that led to it
I love when rock bands create music about historic events. That's one of the things I love about Iron Maiden and probably most of my favorite songs are dealing with something historic in nature. Having met people from Northern Ireland I really do take an appreciation to this song as well. I don't care what genre of rock it is, I appreciate it. Dolores o'riordan really does have a hunting voice and it's my favorite cranberry song and probably my favorite non-metal rock song from the '90s.
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One of the most powerful performance videos out there is their 1999 Paris show of this song. Dolores owns the stage and the crowd and never has there been such a crushing drum set.
Some of the most haunting vocals ever.
I saw them in Dallas in the early 1990s; the drummer was very tasteful and interesting.
Fergal's drumming in Dreams is just awesome.
Right on Doug... they are Zombies! Thanks for another great analyses....
Didn't scroll down the comments but remake of it just prior to her passing is worth checking I think
That "No need to argue" album is just a masterpiece. You have to listen that from the start to finish.
I think I am responsible for several hundred of those views I love this song. My brother came close to being a victim of the IRA twice in the 70's so the song hits home for me.
Caught your comment something about sample four chord progression, and Neil Young T-Bone popped into my head. A real rocker IMO, with the barest of lyrics, and a driving repetitive theme. Would love to see you cover that.
Oh, and good cover of Zombie, a song that once you hear, you don’t forget.
Great track - another good one is Dreams👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
I thought of this song the other day, with everything that's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦 this seems so apt and relevant right now. So pleased to see you go through this, its an epic, powerful, passionate and time less piece of music.
Oh and it's my birthday, happy paddy's day y'all 🍀 🎉👍
Happy birthday ☘️☘️☘️
Green Spot and Redbreast Lustau are my favorite Irish whiskeys. I’m half Irish and a Scotch drinker, but I always try to have one of these on hand also. Cheers.
Dolores once said "this song is our cry against the bombings in London, and the war in Ireland, and it needs to stop."
Hey Doug, great video! May I make a suggestion: "Mayéutica", by spanish musician Robe. It's a rock symphony, a 43 minutes song/album but it's divided on movements so you can go one by one. I would really love if you react to it
Seria genial! :)
I like your whiskey glass, I have one just like it.
Happy St Patrick's Day to all ☘️☮️❤🇮🇳
I've not had Redbreast. One I can, highly, recommend is Writer's Tears: Copper Pot. A fabulous drink. Thanks for the reaction. Best! J
We are all living on a rock 🪨
Should have done the video.....so powerful.
I'd love to see you do this song again by bad wolves for metal Monday
Great song, and a great reaction, but it always amazes me how very few people comment about how the snare beat was composed to make it sound like machine-gun fire. It may be only my interpretation but I'd guess this was very well thought out and on purposed. Cheers, Doug.
Τhe transision from Fmin to Fmaj and then back to Emin is very nice .
Happy St. Patrick's Day! 😎
R.I.P. Dolores
Now you have to do one for the Bad Wolves cover version
Bushmills is another nice Irish whisky.
The official video is so impressive as is the music.
The vocal flip…isn’t that called yodeling?
Another one of my favourites! Linger is also fantastic, from the same album I think.
I honestly don’t know what I would thing of hearing linger for the first time in 2022? I heard in in 1993 when it was in heavy rotation on the radio. Linger transports me back every time and I get chills. Powerful song that really connects me to a significant time. Definitely longing
Pretty sure it’s on a different album
It fits our worldwide narrative today mon ami
Jane Doe by Converge would be an awesome song for you to cover! Incredibly powerful and emotional hardcore punk/metal
I'm a little late to the game, as I recently discovered your channel (10 hrs ago). I've been binge watching. Going through the list of videos, being somewhat selective. I scrolled the comments and didn't see anybody mention the cover version done by Bad Wolves. They were going to have Delores sing in their cover, but she tragically passed away right before the recording. In the beginning of their video they tell of what happened. You should definitely check it out, I believe that you'll enjoy it and will not be disappointed.
Hi Doug,
On a lighter note, and a summer approaches, we might (finally) get to see Top Gun 2. How about revising the original soundtrack? I’d be interested in “Mighty Wings”. Does it go between B flat minor and F major? Whatever he did, Harold Faltermeyer made that work. Love to hear your insights.
The live version is brilliant
you should also react to Gary Moore! i think he's from Northern Ireland. A great choice would be The Loner for a Gary Moore tune. He truly made the guitar sing
It is too bad the video was apparently blocked. I think this video is one of the most powerful ever created. Although 'the troubles' were an awful time with good arguments on both sides for why each was incorrect, the point is killing is never acceptable for a solution for anything. The religious imagery is amazing and represents a lot more than simply the horror of the Irish problem. 'It's not my family' struck me in the gut. Delores did not mean it the way it came across, but said so much more. Great art often reaches beyond. It seems she sings of so many who do not care; because an issue does not affect them (my family) directly. Yet this is how we are Zombies. Going through life selfishly without thought. Great concept and great execution. One of this generation's best.
“All war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.” John Steinbeck
Have you heard the cover by Bad Wolves?
Delores' voice makes me feel so sad. Songs like Put me down, Not sorry and Linger are just so.......... I don't have the words.
@doug helvering your last line in the video about women..you should dive to the music of P J Harvey....oh and check Nina Hagen as well.
Manowar-Heart of steel (with orchestra or not)
Doug: I recommend to you a tremendous Iron Maiden epic song (11 minutes), to which you haven't reacted yet, called "The Sign of the Cross". And song by Dickinson (since the song originally came out with the third Maiden singer, Blaze Bayley). There is a very good video on youtube live of "Rock in Rio". Stunning song.
Sometimes simple is best, it wouldn't be as powerful if it were complex, because the lyrics wouldn't hit you as hard!
If you haven't already, please give a listen to Sarah Mclachlan, particularly her live version of Possession from Afterglow. Simply outstanding. Another singer with a very unique voice.
Dolores Mary Eileen O'Riordan (Burton), Ballybricken (Iers: Baile Bricin), Ierland, 6 september 1971 - Londen, 15 januari 2018) R.I.P.
A couple of suggestions for Irish whiskey (with an ‘e’ 😏). Yellow Spot, Knappogue Castle 16 Twin Wood, Waterford, and if you are ever offered a dram of Midleton Dair Ghaelach (Irish Oak), don’t even hesitate to accept it.🍀
I'll double-down on the recommendations to do the Bad Wolves cover of the song as a refreshed homage to the brilliant original
It’s just a good simple song with a powerful message.
It's that length of the conflict & the anger and trauma that become part of the culture passed on and experienced generation to generation.
Neither group thinking just reacting out of the anger, trauma and stories they consume as part of life. Like a person in deep grief who's not thinking, the mind is struck dumb and works on autopilot.
Like a zombie.
Simple, yet complex as one of the other commenters noted.
Shame you talked over most of it, but that is just my opinion - you are a reactor/analyser so I am well adjusted to your style.
Anyways....
I remember when this bombing happened (and it was not just two !) , so this resonates very close to me as a 1/2 English/Irish person with roots in Belfast.
Such a shame that after decades of abuse from BOTH sides it had to have a musician to make the cry for help.
Listening to it again now, it applies very well to the people in Russia who don't agree with the Ukranian "situation"
How Poignant !
He man woman hater by Extreme. amazing song!
She was not afraid to let her voice sound ugly and angry if the lyric demanded it... awesome.
but the really sad point is that the singer Dolores O’Riordan died about 4 years ago in London.
RIP
Trying to play along to one of my favorite songs and I realize right away it's in between keys. It's just sharp of E, lol.
Doug you should listen to Fish’s Forgotten Sons such a powerful song which reflected what happened in Northern Ireland
I'm crying with how the world is still here in the same state where this song is relevant.