Seriously thank you so much for this upload. It is amazing that what happened in London in the 1980's is/has happened to many US cities. In NYC you see this all over the place- blighted land held for speculation while developers get ridiculous tax write-offs for promises never kept. This has been happening for the past 50 years and destroyed our cities, communities and our sense of belonging to a culture and society. Please if you have any other clips like this upload- thanks again!
It's my first time looking into this properly, and it's ludicrous to me how, this has been so intrinsic to how I view London. Every time I go through it or pass by it, I am absolutely astonished how there is so, so, so much supposed development going on, that never gets finished. It's just in perpetual construction. It always baffled me. I'd think 'Why on earth, wherever you look, is there endless construction and scaffoldings and tape, all the time?' And now I know why.
I love old London. I live in Covent Garden. I get lost in the history. I can't stand property developers. New buildings. I love old pubs too. KEEP LONDON OLD!!!
People say London has changed - the landscape always changes and nothing stays the same - but I know some great parts of London around Westminster that is still the same as it was 40-50 years ago
RIP Mr. Hoskins. From your American fan. "Who framed Roger Rabbit" was my childhood. Your country legacy still lives on. A bunch of English people migrated to South Korea to become perfect English teachers to teach English to my people. You are forever respected sir. Wish I was old enough to attend your funeral, I was only 12 or younger.
I've never heard Bob Hoskins speaking in his natural English accent before. He had a spot on American accent in the roles he played (Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Mermaids, etc)
What i like is that bob was talking about the weslthy and greed. He was wealthy but he cared.......pity in 2022 we dont have CEOs and shareholders who think more about communities like Bob did.. world would be a better place for more people not the few
Interesting video that has been uploaded......just to add a comment. 20 years later the same greedy bastards are fucking up Manchester, rest in peace Bob.....you made one of the best British gangster movies ever!
Living in wapping now, what he predicted came true. All those warehouses close to the Thames are now luxurious privately owned flats, then if you turn a corner you're in a area run by the council or housing associations
To be fair, some the council estates in Wapping look well kempt and quite pretty. Particularly the 'Wapping Housing Estate' on Green Bank-Wapping Lane-Watts Street.
@@ChoobChoob Some are private housing association which are kept better then others, Council stock is old. Some new builds are kept very well due to the cost to live in them.
@@kd84afc The 'Wapping Housing Estate' is still Tower Hamlets Council (As Tower Hamlets Homes). Honestly, when you get a chance, have a bit of a walk around there. It really is nice!
Coin St. car park... there used to be a campervan market in there. Australians desperately trying to flog off the vehicle they'd done their overseas experience in before the date on their airline ticket back down under arrived.
Lookwise or community wise? I'm not familiar with the topic but it seems like he is talking about corporate sweeping in and replacing houses with condos and business development
Lovely guy. It was the film script writer that predicted Canary Wharf and the docks. We watched Oxo and Coin street development. I tried to get a place in tge coin st dev. Taxi drivers had taken everything. Next Gen will not be taxi drivers 🤣
South bank is a post modern blight. Have you seen the one Blackfriars building that went up last year? Hoskin’s would be spinning in his grave Cheers for uploading this BTW, been searching for this for ages 👍🏼
I sort of like the wasteland look.The brownfield sites.It takes me back to the old days looking at cities,the back streets the diminishing industrial estates.Dirty old tracks,rickety old wooden fences the weed growth.
I thought it was just me fascinated with that decaying history... I grew up in 60's 70s Liverpool, the dock estate was a true time capsule, with some fantastic architechture. The god awful mismanagement of the city's development by successive clueless labour councils has managed to have Liverpool's classic waterfront removed from the UN's world heritage sites list.
wow I never knew Bob was like this..just amazing that he's like me when I walk down the street with a friend and I'm telling him or her what use to be there and what was there and now just a slab of concrete with a wooden desk inside with little men and women looking at a screen all-day.
The wharfs along Shad Thames in the video are extremely nice looking now now days, very expensive but lovely to see the old brick buildings with new life
I used to manage Butlers Wharf when it when first converted to residential. A great scheme and thr buildings were preserved for the future by virtue of the development.
It reminds me of an old scene from only fools and horses when uncle Albert goes to the docks and talks about how the landscapes have change, and about the good old days. 😂
The Labour Council in Liverpool, under the name of Militant sold out property on Merseyside, in the 70s & 80s. The new Labour Party on Liverpool council under the name of momentum, have had the governance taken off them.
The money gained from the council houses that were sold in the right to buy scheme was not made available to the Council to build new social housing and all this came from the Tory central government. The council,even today,had it's budget slashed constantly and had to cut essential services. Militant were never the problem,the problem is always the Tory party and it's class war. Bob knew this as he spoke about greed often here. RIP Bob,you were a great actor and a good guy.
@@skintslots Hi, the properties on Merseyside were sold off at a low price, because there was no planning permission, but knowing that planning permission would be guaranteed when applied for. Michael Hesletine closed down the Militant Labour council & following the Maxwell report the govt. & cps , Sir Kier being in charge, closed down the momentum Labour council!
@@vo4068 The properties sold were council houses under the right to buy scheme and were never replaced because no council was allowed to spend the money raised from them to build replacement social housing. This applies country wide and is the main reason there is a property shortage of social housing now. It was a deliberate ploy to pay back tory donors,some of the largest are developers. And Momentum was a fine movement because it represented real socialism and was a real threat to the elite running this country. Starmer was terrified because they actually represented the principles of Socialism,unlike he ever will.
@@skintslots Hi Skin In the 70s & 80s Merseyside was the 2nd biggest port in the UK. We had a strong industrial base in our car industry. Two fantastic soccer teams & a thriving music base. Because we were predominately working class, we were also heavily unionised, with the wrong sorts getting a toe hold, the likes of Militant, who were not interested in the working man, just disruption & bring the workers out on strike. Along with some failed management decisions, & strikes our car industry fell away, along with the docks, which also had containerisation, which cost jobs. We became in investable. I’m probably a lot older than you, 70’s & witnessed all this socialist malarkey 1st hand. During this period, as I’ve pointed out, the heads of militant, the champagne socialists, were busy cashing in on the land sales on Merseyside. I’m amazed that all the countries that live under a socialist type regime, the people don’t like it & are oppressed, but the left want us to go there, knowing that it does not work, except for the corrupt at the top. Us Scousers have a tendency to blame every other bugger, but not to look at ourselves. At least we still have one decent team & it bugs me to say LFC not EFC.
I love how Bob Hoskins refers to look of these new office blocks as 'Mars Bars'.
Ah good old Bob
This was exactly 40 years ago and it's as relevant today as it was when filmed in 1982.
If only people like Bob ran the Councils !
One of the greatest interpreters of the UK cinema! And also a great person! RIP!
Bob Hoskins .... Total LEGEND in my eyes.. Such a decent fella. One of the Old School ;-)
seconded
@Joel WW Well said m8 :-)
@Joel WW well said!!!!
Seriously thank you so much for this upload. It is amazing that what happened in London in the 1980's is/has happened to many US cities. In NYC you see this all over the place- blighted land held for speculation while developers get ridiculous tax write-offs for promises never kept. This has been happening for the past 50 years and destroyed our cities, communities and our sense of belonging to a culture and society.
Please if you have any other clips like this upload- thanks again!
Well said..
It's my first time looking into this properly, and it's ludicrous to me how, this has been so intrinsic to how I view London. Every time I go through it or pass by it, I am absolutely astonished how there is so, so, so much supposed development going on, that never gets finished. It's just in perpetual construction. It always baffled me. I'd think 'Why on earth, wherever you look, is there endless construction and scaffoldings and tape, all the time?' And now I know why.
Two TV legends, and so true, it's like a different planet looking at the old riverside and docklands compared to now.
Aye, Barry Norman eh. Blimey! Ashamed didn't know he was a goner (Bless.😳) & RIP to Bob H of course. 🔥
I love old London. I live in Covent Garden. I get lost in the history. I can't stand property developers. New buildings. I love old pubs too. KEEP LONDON OLD!!!
People say London has changed - the landscape always changes and nothing stays the same - but I know some great parts of London around Westminster that is still the same as it was 40-50 years ago
I wish today's celebrities cared about their cities like Hoskins did. They are too busy uploading lobster night pics to Instagram.
RIP Mr. Hoskins. From your American fan. "Who framed Roger Rabbit" was my childhood. Your country legacy still lives on. A bunch of English people migrated to South Korea to become perfect English teachers to teach English to my people. You are forever respected sir. Wish I was old enough to attend your funeral, I was only 12 or younger.
For more than ten years there’s been peace,everyone to their own patch,we’ve all had it sweet!
I used to be down there at the time taking fotos, so I remember all of this, the filming of "The Elephant Man", "The French Lieutenant's Woman" etc.
You should publish them. Part of london history
Bob Hoskins. The best ever.
I've never heard Bob Hoskins speaking in his natural English accent before. He had a spot on American accent in the roles he played (Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Mermaids, etc)
then you are missing out on some of his best films including The Long Good Friday and Mona Lisa. Get on them as soon as mate, if you like Bob's work.
@@GetToDaChoppa-k5r The Long Good Friday.
In Hook he used his accent as Smee.
What i like is that bob was talking about the weslthy and greed. He was wealthy but he cared.......pity in 2022 we dont have CEOs and shareholders who think more about communities like Bob did.. world would be a better place for more people not the few
Bob was a communist so were his family, that’s why he cares about the poor and less fortunate people
1982, how relevant is this today?So true.
40 years now!
I just can't believe Bob is no longer with us 😢
What a bloke, salt of the Earth.
@@PeterBorenius he was a brilliant actor, always gave excellent performances, a very natural talented actor
@Stefano Pavonetotally agree- the likelihood is that his family will honour him and rightly so. Such a brilliant actor. Tremendous screen presence.
If only this was longer than 7mins, could have watched them for hours!
Can't do hours but this is twice the length;
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Interesting video that has been uploaded......just to add a comment. 20 years later the same greedy bastards are fucking up Manchester, rest in peace Bob.....you made one of the best British gangster movies ever!
Living in wapping now, what he predicted came true. All those warehouses close to the Thames are now luxurious privately owned flats, then if you turn a corner you're in a area run by the council or housing associations
To be fair, some the council estates in Wapping look well kempt and quite pretty. Particularly the 'Wapping Housing Estate' on Green Bank-Wapping Lane-Watts Street.
@@ChoobChoob Some are private housing association which are kept better then others, Council stock is old. Some new builds are kept very well due to the cost to live in them.
@@kd84afc The 'Wapping Housing Estate' is still Tower Hamlets Council (As Tower Hamlets Homes). Honestly, when you get a chance, have a bit of a walk around there. It really is nice!
@@ChoobChoob I know live in Wapping lol, as I said some parts are nice and some are not.
Coin St. car park... there used to be a campervan market in there. Australians desperately trying to flog off the vehicle they'd done their overseas experience in before the date on their airline ticket back down under arrived.
What a fantastic video of London history on the brink of change and who better to tell this story, one of our finest actors ever…
My view is that the riverside has improved immensely since this was taken
Lookwise or community wise? I'm not familiar with the topic but it seems like he is talking about corporate sweeping in and replacing houses with condos and business development
Lovely guy. It was the film script writer that predicted Canary Wharf and the docks. We watched Oxo and Coin street development. I tried to get a place in tge coin st dev. Taxi drivers had taken everything. Next Gen will not be taxi drivers 🤣
Bob hoskins was the real deal. I wonder what choice words he would have used for the shard.🤔
Miles ahead of time with this 👏👏👏
It's like he's interviewing the actual Harold Shand.
They don’t make em like that anymore
No wonder he thought Judge Doom’s plan to destroy Toontown and build a freeway was a lame brained idea
Plenty of backhanders Bob. It always was and forever will be. Give ‘em a grand each to keep ‘em sweet, for expenses…
what a lovely video, two legends, in a legendy city. I wonder what they would make of it now..
South bank is a post modern blight. Have you seen the one Blackfriars building that went up last year? Hoskin’s would be spinning in his grave
Cheers for uploading this BTW, been searching for this for ages 👍🏼
I sort of like the wasteland look.The brownfield sites.It takes me back to the old days looking at cities,the back streets the diminishing industrial estates.Dirty old tracks,rickety old wooden fences the weed growth.
I thought it was just me fascinated with that decaying history... I grew up in 60's 70s Liverpool, the dock estate was a true time capsule, with some fantastic architechture. The god awful mismanagement of the city's development by successive clueless labour councils has managed to have Liverpool's classic waterfront removed from the UN's world heritage sites list.
4:50 resurrection of the daleks
Looked just like it....thankfully this was largely preserved!
RIP Hoskins and Norman
It's a fackin disgrace tha kants
Bob: "...He was so beautiful, he was so very special..."
I wonder what Bob would think of London if he was here today.
This is wonderful.
Hands across the ocean
wow I never knew Bob was like this..just amazing that he's like me when I walk down the street with a friend and I'm telling him or her what use to be there and what was there and now just a slab of concrete with a wooden desk inside with little men and women looking at a screen all-day.
If Bob was your Dad, you'd be alright.
now they want to do it in Birmingham
can't polish a turd
Bob was a communist so were his family. He was truly a great man, and sadly missed. RIP
R I P BOB WE MISS YOU
The wharfs along Shad Thames in the video are extremely nice looking now now days, very expensive but lovely to see the old brick buildings with new life
I used to manage Butlers Wharf when it when first converted to residential. A great scheme and thr buildings were preserved for the future by virtue of the development.
I really enjoyed this thanks
he was talking about the Highway. It really does separate the rich and poor
Miss him
Oh the pain... GENTRIFICATION.
Is not new.
And surprising relevant still in London, what with property prices.
Harold Shand lives!!
Still happening today !
He was a true Londoner rip Bob.
Good old thatcherite poison politics
Shame the full 50mins of it was not uploaded.😞
I really have to say: I F''king loved this guy. He was so funny and such a nice guy! One in a million!
It reminds me of an old scene from only fools and horses when uncle Albert goes to the docks and talks about how the landscapes have change, and about the good old days. 😂
Bob Hoskins proper sounded rough east end London but he wasnt from London.Not a million miles away though.
RIP Bob. A great actor and a wonderful human who realised all the problems that Thatcher's bullshit would create.
Hoskins Winstone Caine stamp and McShane the best of British hardware
You cant buy jellied eels anywhere now days.
What about Bethnal Green Road?
Walthamstow?
Amazing.
3rd world cess pit now
Bob Hoskins is funny especially in unleashed 2007
The Labour Council in Liverpool, under the name of Militant sold out property on Merseyside, in the 70s & 80s.
The new Labour Party on Liverpool council under the name of momentum, have had the governance taken off them.
The money gained from the council houses that were sold in the right to buy scheme was not made available to the Council to build new social housing and all this came from the Tory central government. The council,even today,had it's budget slashed constantly and had to cut essential services. Militant were never the problem,the problem is always the Tory party and it's class war. Bob knew this as he spoke about greed often here. RIP Bob,you were a great actor and a good guy.
@@skintslots Hi, the properties on Merseyside were sold off at a low price, because there was no planning permission, but knowing that planning permission would be guaranteed when applied for.
Michael Hesletine closed down the Militant Labour council & following the Maxwell report the govt. & cps , Sir Kier being in charge, closed down the momentum Labour council!
@@vo4068 The properties sold were council houses under the right to buy scheme and were never replaced because no council was allowed to spend the money raised from them to build replacement social housing. This applies country wide and is the main reason there is a property shortage of social housing now. It was a deliberate ploy to pay back tory donors,some of the largest are developers. And Momentum was a fine movement because it represented real socialism and was a real threat to the elite running this country. Starmer was terrified because they actually represented the principles of Socialism,unlike he ever will.
@@skintslots Hi Skin
In the 70s & 80s Merseyside was the 2nd biggest port in the UK.
We had a strong industrial base in our car industry.
Two fantastic soccer teams & a thriving music base.
Because we were predominately working class, we were also heavily unionised, with the wrong sorts getting a toe hold, the likes of Militant, who were not interested in the working man, just disruption & bring the workers out on strike.
Along with some failed management decisions, & strikes our car industry fell away, along with the docks, which also had containerisation, which cost jobs.
We became in investable.
I’m probably a lot older than you, 70’s & witnessed all this socialist malarkey 1st hand.
During this period, as I’ve pointed out, the heads of militant, the champagne socialists, were busy cashing in on the land sales on Merseyside.
I’m amazed that all the countries that live under a socialist type regime, the people don’t like it & are oppressed, but the left want us to go there, knowing that it does not work, except for the corrupt at the top.
Us Scousers have a tendency to blame every other bugger, but not to look at ourselves.
At least we still have one decent team & it bugs me to say LFC not EFC.
"Dorset House". I worked in that building a few years ago. Heh.
Saw him on anti-nazi demos.Bob was alright.
hehe property developers. I've shit'em.
Still, sound like he is on the set of Long Good Friday! Da Mafia I shat em!
Rat at 2.31
Very interesting.
How true this is how the working-class people were kicked out for the rich people to move in.
Have you ever been to Southwark
Shad Thames is unrecognisable from what it was.
That’s butlers wharf know very very nice area
The long good sellout
Real deal
Something tells me Bob was not a Tory....
How the hell was Bob Hoskins speaking? Was it cockney?
Used his mouth.
No...hes a cockney but he's not speaking it.
Plastic gangster