Speaking of feeling like watching a director, David Fincher and David Lynch are like that for me. I can spot their films in an instant! I love it, it makes the experience that much more intense!!
I loved this movie more than I love certain family members. Many people found it hard to watch, but I absolutely relished it! It is Cronenbergian body horror at is best. However, the point of this film is what kept me thinking and talking about it for weeks afterwards. It is about the violence women do to themselves in the name of beauty. It's about how men are dictating what these beauty standards are and how they are not held to the same ludicrous standards. I felt the hardest scene to watch wasn't a gory one, but one where Demi's character is getting ready to go on a date and can't get past the hatred of her own reflection while she re-does her look over and over again, never reaching that high bar she strives for. The real tragedy is that the guy who has waiting for her is the only truly nice guy in the whole film who has always seen her true beauty. So tragically relatable for so many of us. Truly courageous work by Demi Moore. RESPECT!
Sitting in the theatre thinking "Woah, it can't get crazier than this", then the film goes to the next level, then the next level, and so on. I had so many feelings about this as an aging woman. It's not my favourite horror film of the year, but it's definitely in my top 5.
It’s great to have a movie actually about something like the 80s. Films like Society and They Live actually had a political point as does this masterpiece. Malignant was the usual tame modern horror for teens
it's one of those films i'm just happy to have witnessed in my lifetime. it goes from stylistically interesting to pretty great and to perfectly my jam in the last 15 minutes
I felt like I had a concussion by the time the film was over. I am glad that I saw it in the cinema. It was one and done for me, but I have thought about it and reflected about it quite a bit.
Dennis Quaid is one of the best actors who has ever lived, and it amazes me that he is in a body horror movie! For that reason alone, I will blind buy this movie!
@@cobwebschannel Substance is one giant exercise in scapegoating a w man's vanity and insecurity on society. So I naturally detest a film built on gaslighting
It’s nice to hear a different perspective on this film. Well a male perspective that isn’t hostile or belittling of the film. Ray Liotta was hired for the part but unfortunately he passed away & that’s how they got Dennis Quaid. He’s basically doing an impersonation of Liotta, just think of the laugh you’ll see it. This movie pairs well with What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Sunset Boulevard & Fried Green Tomatoes. The first 2 deal with actresses who have been used up & tossed aside by Hollywood similar to The Substance. Fried Green Tomatoes brings in the aspect of a woman getting older & being disrespected by younger people like in The Substance. The neighbor in Substance is hostile to Demi but a pushover to Margret & out in public young people are impatient & disrespectful to old Demi but nicer to young Sue/Margaret very much like in FGT. How women are treated changes throughout their lives all because they have the audacity to get older or gain weight etc. It was subtle but important to include in the movie. Also this movie is almost like a silent film. There isn’t a lot of dialogue especially in the beginning. There are men like Quaid’s character irl, you’re a man, you’ve maybe never met them but they exist & they most definitely exist in Hollywood & upper management in corporations. You know, they’re the ones who think they can grab women by the 🐈 & it’s ok because they’re rich/powerful. who’s gonna tell them no? It’s easy to get hung up on the body horror (which doesn’t necessarily need to be scary) but the story of how women are treated, how older women are treated, how young sexy beautiful women are treated is really what drives this movie. The camera obsessively looks & salivates over young Sue/Margaret in the way lascivious men look & salivate over a young (hot) girl. The camera is a character in the movie. The fast camera work, where the camera focuses, how it follows the characters is integral to the film. The prosthetic work in this movie is top tier. Those aren’t Margaret’s boobs. Yeah, go back & watch the movie again, insane right? *ALL* of the prosthetic work on this film was insanely good. The sound design, the cinematography, the music, the costumes, makeup, prosthetics, even the font - amazing. For me it comes down to the story & for me as a woman this movie was top tier. The director did a short film years ago with a similar concept but it wasn’t a woman it was a man. The man used a program that made him appear more fit & handsome but it was funny. That nefarious element isn’t there when a man just wants to be tall, fit & handsome in the way it exists when a woman wants to be younger. Thanks for the different but respectful review/perspective. 👍🏽
I saw this remarkable film yesterday. It's extraordinary. It's worthy of superlatives, it's that good. I could write realms about The Substance, but I'll keep it short. It's actually 2 films in one, the first two thirds being an intense psychological horror and last third being utterly gory. I much preferred the 'first film'; it winds up the tension to the nth degree to the extent that it's almost unbearable (akin to the final section of Requiem For A Dream) . I'll award the 'first film' 11/10. Demi Moore deffo deserves an Oscar for her performance therein. The concluding third also reminds me of Society or another of the Brian Yuzna/Stuart Gordon productions. A final word about the editing and style of cinematography; it's in the style of Gaspar Noe and reminded me most of Spun. In other words, brill. This is a must see film.
I saw the UK premier at Frightfest with director present and an audience that absolutely went wild with it. I re-watched with my wife and enjoyed it nearly as much. At that showing I could tell some of the audience were appalled even though the reviews had been quite clear about its content. Watch her 1st film, Rampage as well. Its really good
i loved this movie! i saw so many reminders of my job. i work in a doctor’s office and we provide hormone replacement therapy and i swear it’s like the substance. these patients come in dragging, completely depleted of estrogen and/or testosterone, we do the procedure and see them again 2 weeks later and they’re like all new people. full of energy and well rested. they are now Sues lol
Happy to see it also reminded you of Malignant, because I had that exact thought, especially when *spoiler* the older self and younger self got into that fight. My favorite horror movie of the year, and I agree I don't really need to see it again anytime soon. I'm glad I got to experience it in a theater. Demi should be getting awards for her perfect performance here.
x Speaking of Demi Moore...Moore is my paternal grandmother's family name. o In an alternate history where my father's parents would not have been married, my name could have been Benjamin Moore (which is a paint company). o In the movie Indecent Proposal, Demi Moore's character is Diana Murphy...Murphy is the family name of my paternal grandmother's mother! x Watched The Stepford Wives, great movie! o That is very much a movie for sociologists (I received my bachelor's and master's degree in sociology)! o There is a lot of suspense generated as it almost seems like, at times, she is truly crazy and imagining things but it is always uncertain! o Catherine Ross's performance as Joanna is fantastic as it really just seems like she is psychologically pinned in a corner the entire time and it is only a matter of time until something happens to her! o The idea of a robot Doppelgänger replacing the real wives is one that certainly is going to be picked up again soon, it's such a thought-provoking and mindbending idea! o The ending where "Joanna" is staring into the camera during the close-up is pure legendary filmaking! † That is my favorite movie close-up of all time! x Speaking of Reagan, before I went to it at the hometown theater I thought "There is absolutely no way that they do not have jelly beans in the movie" (Weird History has covered Reagan's Jelly Bean love A LOT). o I was so sure that I went to Dollar General and bought a bag of jelly beans to give to my godfather Randy Gross (whose family owns the movie theater) before I saw the movie! † Jelly Beans are all over the movie! (Great movie too!). x I will try to think of the best time to see The Substance!
I really love how Demi had the bravery to do this film; satirizing her past career and also being completely naked. I also really love how it turns into a Gwar concert. This has been a great year for Horror. The Substance, Alien Romulus, Oddity, and In a Violent Nature: I give each of them a rating of 8/10.
@@cobwebschannelDaniel, sorry it has been a long little bit Amazon was a little slow on the Steelbook of Nightmare on Elm St. 4K. Did you still want it? It will be delivered tomorrow. Just let me know. I was out of commission too for a little bit. But I am back and if you still want it. We can work out the payment details and I can get it out to you right after Thanksgiving.
Bad casting for young Elisabeth. Demi's beauty requires a truly special counterpart. And before anyone says I missed the point of the film, no....I didn't. I simply have an opinion on the cast.
Might be movie of the year for me! Absolutely adored it, so uncomfortable. I didn't feel it's runtime! All the butts was just uncomfortable - brilliant touch
I am looking forward to finally watching this movie when it comes out physically. I hear all the criticisms, and they all sound completely understandable. I'm not going to go in expecting the greatest movie ever made. But the fact that everyone says how unique it is makes me want to watch it and support it. And I've loved Demi Moore since probably About Last Night, so I got to get this.
One thing I have to question is given Demi Moores character doesnt seem to remember anything while living as the younger character is whats in it for her?
I still haven't seen it, and I feel like it's the kind of movie I'll have to be in a very particular mood for it to entertain me. I'll probably wait until it's "free" and shoved in my face while browsing my Firestick. Plus, my Wife hates body horror, so I have to wait until she's not around.
I loved the movie and it was awesome to see Demi and Dennis Quaid. Thought the over the top- ness of it all made it perfect. My only drawback- and maybe an unpopular opinion- I wish someone else would have been cast for Sue. Just don't think MQ is that physically pretty or dynamic. 🤷
I think the substance is scary, but not in your face scary, more like subtle scary. Getting older, losing relevancy in the environment where you are in, not doing the proper job of detaching your self-worth from your youth and looks, grappling with the consequences of it, like experiencing self-hatred. The expectation of society has of you, is that once you reach a certain age, you should go into a corner and die, because you are deemed useless. For me, the scariest part was the first makeup scene and the fact Elizabeth went back to what she knew instead of starting something else, all because of how much she has been programmed to find worth in youth and looks.
this movie should have been about 90 minutes long. there could have been so much complexity between her and her clone but it was all surface level. None of the characters felt real or likeable.
So...Im not the biggest fan of body horror movies overall and Ive been kinda avoiding this one because it looked like a film school kid making a gross over-cooked music video....and...nothing you said made me feel like my first impressions were incorrect 😂😂😂😂...Im on the fence about even watching
I was disappointed. Yes, it's over the top, it has some awesome practical effects, the cast is very good, and so on. But my main problem (like you already adressed in the beginning): It is NOT scary! Compare it to one of the most iconic body horror movies of all times The Fly (I liked the homage in the climax), and you see what I mean. That one was dark and greedy, and you were very afraid of Brundlefly. The Substance is way too bright and stylish, it almost felt more like an 2 hour music video, like a weird fd up version from Call on me with Vince McMahon in it 😉. S...t, I think even Slither is scarier than this one 😅 So, not a bad movie overall, but I guess I just expected something different, and maybe it wasn't "made for me" neither.
Too explicit, almost pornographic for me. And it wasn’t too subtle, nor profound, at least not to me. I don’t like body horror, maybe that’s the reason, not my cup of tea.
@@mrtn1478That’s kind of the point though. It was highlighting how the female experience is so often affected by the male ideas and attitudes. I’m not sure if being truthful is being feminist but I did feel it was a movie “for women”, as one myself.
😂 y'all don't make fun of me but for some odd reason when I watched it it just gave Bonkers but it gave like the Bonkers of frankenhooker to me in Death Becomes Her kind of but more like frankenhooker and way bloodier devilishly wild ass movie
Speaking of feeling like watching a director, David Fincher and David Lynch are like that for me. I can spot their films in an instant! I love it, it makes the experience that much more intense!!
I loved this movie more than I love certain family members. Many people found it hard to watch, but I absolutely relished it! It is Cronenbergian body horror at is best. However, the point of this film is what kept me thinking and talking about it for weeks afterwards. It is about the violence women do to themselves in the name of beauty. It's about how men are dictating what these beauty standards are and how they are not held to the same ludicrous standards. I felt the hardest scene to watch wasn't a gory one, but one where Demi's character is getting ready to go on a date and can't get past the hatred of her own reflection while she re-does her look over and over again, never reaching that high bar she strives for. The real tragedy is that the guy who has waiting for her is the only truly nice guy in the whole film who has always seen her true beauty. So tragically relatable for so many of us. Truly courageous work by Demi Moore. RESPECT!
Sitting in the theatre thinking "Woah, it can't get crazier than this", then the film goes to the next level, then the next level, and so on.
I had so many feelings about this as an aging woman. It's not my favourite horror film of the year, but it's definitely in my top 5.
It’s great to have a movie actually about something like the 80s. Films like Society and They Live actually had a political point as does this masterpiece. Malignant was the usual tame modern horror for teens
it's one of those films i'm just happy to have witnessed in my lifetime. it goes from stylistically interesting to pretty great and to perfectly my jam in the last 15 minutes
I felt like I had a concussion by the time the film was over. I am glad that I saw it in the cinema. It was one and done for me, but I have thought about it and reflected about it quite a bit.
😂 And I 100% get that
Dennis Quaid is one of the best actors who has ever lived, and it amazes me that he is in a body horror movie! For that reason alone, I will blind buy this movie!
NEVER would have guessed he’d be in a movie like this! Respect.
@@cobwebschannel Substance is one giant exercise in scapegoating a w man's vanity and insecurity on society. So I naturally detest a film built on gaslighting
@@cobwebschannel btw, Demi Moore is actually 62 irl, not a mere 50 like the character she plays
It’s nice to hear a different perspective on this film. Well a male perspective that isn’t hostile or belittling of the film.
Ray Liotta was hired for the part but unfortunately he passed away & that’s how they got Dennis Quaid. He’s basically doing an impersonation of Liotta, just think of the laugh you’ll see it.
This movie pairs well with What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Sunset Boulevard & Fried Green Tomatoes. The first 2 deal with actresses who have been used up & tossed aside by Hollywood similar to The Substance. Fried Green Tomatoes brings in the aspect of a woman getting older & being disrespected by younger people like in The Substance. The neighbor in Substance is hostile to Demi but a pushover to Margret & out in public young people are impatient & disrespectful to old Demi but nicer to young Sue/Margaret very much like in FGT. How women are treated changes throughout their lives all because they have the audacity to get older or gain weight etc. It was subtle but important to include in the movie. Also this movie is almost like a silent film. There isn’t a lot of dialogue especially in the beginning.
There are men like Quaid’s character irl, you’re a man, you’ve maybe never met them but they exist & they most definitely exist in Hollywood & upper management in corporations. You know, they’re the ones who think they can grab women by the 🐈 & it’s ok because they’re rich/powerful. who’s gonna tell them no?
It’s easy to get hung up on the body horror (which doesn’t necessarily need to be scary) but the story of how women are treated, how older women are treated, how young sexy beautiful women are treated is really what drives this movie. The camera obsessively looks & salivates over young Sue/Margaret in the way lascivious men look & salivate over a young (hot) girl. The camera is a character in the movie. The fast camera work, where the camera focuses, how it follows the characters is integral to the film.
The prosthetic work in this movie is top tier. Those aren’t Margaret’s boobs. Yeah, go back & watch the movie again, insane right? *ALL* of the prosthetic work on this film was insanely good.
The sound design, the cinematography, the music, the costumes, makeup, prosthetics, even the font - amazing. For me it comes down to the story & for me as a woman this movie was top tier. The director did a short film years ago with a similar concept but it wasn’t a woman it was a man. The man used a program that made him appear more fit & handsome but it was funny. That nefarious element isn’t there when a man just wants to be tall, fit & handsome in the way it exists when a woman wants to be younger. Thanks for the different but respectful review/perspective. 👍🏽
I saw this remarkable film yesterday. It's extraordinary. It's worthy of superlatives, it's that good. I could write realms about The Substance, but I'll keep it short. It's actually 2 films in one, the first two thirds being an intense psychological horror and last third being utterly gory. I much preferred the 'first film'; it winds up the tension to the nth degree to the extent that it's almost unbearable (akin to the final section of Requiem For A Dream) . I'll award the 'first film' 11/10. Demi Moore deffo deserves an Oscar for her performance therein. The concluding third also reminds me of Society or another of the Brian Yuzna/Stuart Gordon productions. A final word about the editing and style of cinematography; it's in the style of Gaspar Noe and reminded me most of Spun. In other words, brill.
This is a must see film.
I saw the UK premier at Frightfest with director present and an audience that absolutely went wild with it. I re-watched with my wife and enjoyed it nearly as much. At that showing I could tell some of the audience were appalled even though the reviews had been quite clear about its content. Watch her 1st film, Rampage as well. Its really good
i loved this movie! i saw so many reminders of my job. i work in a doctor’s office and we provide hormone replacement therapy and i swear it’s like the substance. these patients come in dragging, completely depleted of estrogen and/or testosterone, we do the procedure and see them again 2 weeks later and they’re like all new people. full of energy and well rested. they are now Sues lol
Glad you finally saw it. It's never too late and I can't wait to put it on my shelf
The substance was absolutely wild.
WILD 😂
Hi Daniel! Can't wait to watch this one.
Happy to see it also reminded you of Malignant, because I had that exact thought, especially when *spoiler* the older self and younger self got into that fight.
My favorite horror movie of the year, and I agree I don't really need to see it again anytime soon. I'm glad I got to experience it in a theater. Demi should be getting awards for her perfect performance here.
x Speaking of Demi Moore...Moore is my paternal grandmother's family name.
o In an alternate history where my father's parents would not have been married, my name could have been Benjamin Moore (which is a paint company).
o In the movie Indecent Proposal, Demi Moore's character is Diana Murphy...Murphy is the family name of my paternal grandmother's mother!
x Watched The Stepford Wives, great movie!
o That is very much a movie for sociologists (I received my bachelor's and master's degree in sociology)!
o There is a lot of suspense generated as it almost seems like, at times, she is truly crazy and imagining things but it is always uncertain!
o Catherine Ross's performance as Joanna is fantastic as it really just seems like she is psychologically pinned in a corner the entire time and it is only a matter of time until something happens to her!
o The idea of a robot Doppelgänger replacing the real wives is one that certainly is going to be picked up again soon, it's such a thought-provoking and mindbending idea!
o The ending where "Joanna" is staring into the camera during the close-up is pure legendary filmaking!
† That is my favorite movie close-up of all time!
x Speaking of Reagan, before I went to it at the hometown theater I thought "There is absolutely no way that they do not have jelly beans in the movie" (Weird History has covered Reagan's Jelly Bean love A LOT).
o I was so sure that I went to Dollar General and bought a bag of jelly beans to give to my godfather Randy Gross (whose family owns the movie theater) before I saw the movie!
† Jelly Beans are all over the movie! (Great movie too!).
x I will try to think of the best time to see The Substance!
Goddammit I love this channel so much. Could watch this dude talk about every single movie ever
I still love “Enemy Mine” with Quaid
I really love how Demi had the bravery to do this film; satirizing her past career and also being completely naked. I also really love how it turns into a Gwar concert.
This has been a great year for Horror. The Substance, Alien Romulus, Oddity, and In a Violent Nature: I give each of them a rating of 8/10.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this one ! 😊
Your t-shirt is one of my favorite movies...smile
100% agree. So good.
Same here!
Probably one of my very first horror movies, I guess. The scene with the porthole scared the s... out of me 😬
@@cobwebschannelDaniel, sorry it has been a long little bit Amazon was a little slow on the Steelbook of Nightmare on Elm St. 4K. Did you still want it? It will be delivered tomorrow. Just let me know. I was out of commission too for a little bit. But I am back and if you still want it. We can work out the payment details and I can get it out to you right after Thanksgiving.
Bad casting for young Elisabeth. Demi's beauty requires a truly special counterpart. And before anyone says I missed the point of the film, no....I didn't. I simply have an opinion on the cast.
It's the best movie I never want to see again
Might be movie of the year for me! Absolutely adored it, so uncomfortable. I didn't feel it's runtime!
All the butts was just uncomfortable - brilliant touch
I am looking forward to finally watching this movie when it comes out physically. I hear all the criticisms, and they all sound completely understandable. I'm not going to go in expecting the greatest movie ever made. But the fact that everyone says how unique it is makes me want to watch it and support it. And I've loved Demi Moore since probably About Last Night, so I got to get this.
One thing I have to question is given Demi Moores character doesnt seem to remember anything while living as the younger character is whats in it for her?
I love your channel!
Thank you!
Don't feel bad, I haven't watched this yet either. I keep hearing about this and the Coffee Table which I heard is Bat 💩 insane!
"this movie this movie this movie this movie this movie this movie this movie this movie ...."
I still haven't seen it, and I feel like it's the kind of movie I'll have to be in a very particular mood for it to entertain me. I'll probably wait until it's "free" and shoved in my face while browsing my Firestick. Plus, my Wife hates body horror, so I have to wait until she's not around.
Do not eat while watching this movie.
I loved the movie and it was awesome to see Demi and Dennis Quaid. Thought the over the top- ness of it all made it perfect. My only drawback- and maybe an unpopular opinion- I wish someone else would have been cast for Sue. Just don't think MQ is that physically pretty or dynamic. 🤷
I hadn't heard of this movie. I'll stick with vintage horror, lol.
Loved this movie!!!!
Have you assessed NEON DEMON? This movie here seems something of a retread of ND.
I think the substance is scary, but not in your face scary, more like subtle scary. Getting older, losing relevancy in the environment where you are in, not doing the proper job of detaching your self-worth from your youth and looks, grappling with the consequences of it, like experiencing self-hatred. The expectation of society has of you, is that once you reach a certain age, you should go into a corner and die, because you are deemed useless.
For me, the scariest part was the first makeup scene and the fact Elizabeth went back to what she knew instead of starting something else, all because of how much she has been programmed to find worth in youth and looks.
Thak you for this review, Daniel! I was wondering if you were going to review The Substance.
I finally made it! haha
"You too, Brutus?" Don't tell me you fell for this quackery of a movie aswell!
Loved it!
this movie should have been about 90 minutes long. there could have been so much complexity between her and her clone but it was all surface level. None of the characters felt real or likeable.
So...Im not the biggest fan of body horror movies overall and Ive been kinda avoiding this one because it looked like a film school kid making a gross over-cooked music video....and...nothing you said made me feel like my first impressions were incorrect 😂😂😂😂...Im on the fence about even watching
The premise seems like a Twilight Zone story. Demi Moore is 62
What does the term you used, ONLY FAN STAR mean? Is that a thing? Thanks for any help.
I definitely have not seen another movie like it…very over the top
It didn't even feel like a 2 and a half hour movie
Wait until she makes "Revenge Of The Butts".
Saw the substance recently and as a horror film I think oddity was far better. I enjoyed it if it can be enjoyed lol 😂.
I also prefer Oddity.
never heard of it
Dennis quaid should play Vince McMahon. He stole the show for me. Style over substance….ha….substance
Ha ha ha hahaha! Film was a ride!
I was disappointed. Yes, it's over the top, it has some awesome practical effects, the cast is very good, and so on. But my main problem (like you already adressed in the beginning): It is NOT scary! Compare it to one of the most iconic body horror movies of all times The Fly (I liked the homage in the climax), and you see what I mean. That one was dark and greedy, and you were very afraid of Brundlefly.
The Substance is way too bright and stylish, it almost felt more like an 2 hour music video, like a weird fd up version from Call on me with Vince McMahon in it 😉. S...t, I think even Slither is scarier than this one 😅
So, not a bad movie overall, but I guess I just expected something different, and maybe it wasn't "made for me" neither.
Too explicit, almost pornographic for me. And it wasn’t too subtle, nor profound, at least not to me. I don’t like body horror, maybe that’s the reason, not my cup of tea.
So say you don't really like the movie without saying you don't really like the movie.
Nah, that’s not the case. It’s more nuanced than that.
So say you don’t know how movie criticism works without saying you know how movie criticism works 😂. He gave it an 8/10
Crystal (assuming that’s her real name) is a regular face around here and an appreciated supporter, she’s cool!
Of course it's crazy, it's a feminist story 😂
Not so sure bout that, for example, the male gaze is huuuge in this one
@@mrtn1478That’s kind of the point though. It was highlighting how the female experience is so often affected by the male ideas and attitudes. I’m not sure if being truthful is being feminist but I did feel it was a movie “for women”, as one myself.
Very few people are cooler than you, unlike you, most people are just obnoxious NPCs who manage one synapse every decade.
😂 You’re too kind
The end of the movie sucks.
😂 y'all don't make fun of me but for some odd reason when I watched it it just gave Bonkers but it gave like the Bonkers of frankenhooker to me in Death Becomes Her kind of but more like frankenhooker and way bloodier devilishly wild ass movie
I hope you do a 2024 round up and give your take on WICKED 🩷💚