The Perfect Road for a Square Wheel and How to Design It

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  • @morphocular
    @morphocular  Рік тому +175

    There seem to be a lot of comments questioning the practicality/usefulness of square wheels, particularly whether you can turn side-to-side with them. The short answer is there's likely not much practical use for them and you can't turn side-to-side. To be clear, this video was mainly meant to be an interesting application of math and geometry to a fun problem and was not meant to be practical in the slightest.

  • @kindoflame
    @kindoflame 2 роки тому +1697

    I was going to mention that a second requirement for a smooth ride is that when the rotational speed of the wheel is constant, then horizontal speed of the axle is also constant. Otherwise, you could have a 'smooth ride' where the car constantly speeds up and stops short even when the wheels are not accelerating. However, the equation dx = r*d(theta) very simply shows that the only shape that could satisfy this new condition is a circle.

    • @kfawell
      @kfawell 2 роки тому +209

      I thought of the same thing as I watched. And I imagined what it would be like to ride in such a car that's constantly jerking you forward and backwards. It made me laugh out loud. I think we would be used to a bumpy road going up and down. It would be somewhat tolerable at least. We experienced that walking and jogging for example. On the other hand, having our head jerked back and forth would be hilariously unpleasant or at least irritating. For example, as though somebody has grabbed our collar and is shaking us back and forth. I don't want to detract from the video. It was very enjoyable and solves the smoothness problem as defined.

    • @fghsgh
      @fghsgh 2 роки тому +84

      @@kfawell I've tried out one of those square wheel cars in a museum before. It was exactly like that.

    • @kfawell
      @kfawell 2 роки тому +28

      @@fghsghI am laughing again thinking about that. Were you able to watch others doing that before you rode? If yes, I suppose you had to find out first hand. I just realized you had that memory while you watched the video. I wonder how you reacted when you saw the word smooth. I really appreciate that the creator specifically defined smooth. Thank you for telling me.

    • @fghsgh
      @fghsgh 2 роки тому +20

      @@kfawell I mean, you had to pedal yourself forward, and it was pretty slow so not too bad. It also mostly felt like variable resistance, not so much speed (because that's how inertia works). But yeah it seemed like it would not be entirely smooth from seeing others too. This was also at least 8 years ago so although my memory is pretty good, I can't give an exact description of the scene ;).
      But anyway I thought the lack-of-smoothness was just from the physical thing being imperfect, until this comment said otherwise.

    • @Zildawolf
      @Zildawolf 2 роки тому +3

      Well now I’m wondering what’s the shape that’d make the most speed inconsistency possible lol

  • @cambridgehathaway3367
    @cambridgehathaway3367 Рік тому +56

    We live in an astoundingly amazing age. One person is able to singlehandedly write, animate, narrate and publish such a polished, professional, easy to understand, and intriguing video. not to mention doing all the math and even providing a formal proof they crafted themselves. Such incredible talent has existed in past ages (rare tho it may be), but never before has the common man been able to so easily and readily benefit from it. I am astounded and humbled and grateful.

  • @AsiccAP
    @AsiccAP 3 роки тому +1211

    I feel like I gained brain cells despite not understanding a word

    • @aartvb9443
      @aartvb9443 2 роки тому +101

      You didn't gain brain cells, you gained connections between brain cells ;)

    • @catcritical
      @catcritical 2 роки тому +42

      *Brain.exe has stopped working.*

    • @wildcard_772
      @wildcard_772 2 роки тому +8

      Same

    • @EverythingLvl
      @EverythingLvl 2 роки тому +13

      It's an illusion, still super dum

    • @BloonMan137
      @BloonMan137 2 роки тому +1

      @@aartvb9443 🤓

  • @thomasrosebrough9062
    @thomasrosebrough9062 2 роки тому +167

    22:12 super hype to see my favorite curve show up in this video!! A Catenary Curve is also very commonly used in architecture for its even distribution of weight/pressure.
    The most famous catenary curve is the St Louis Arch which is over 600ft tall! It differs from the identity curve by having 0.01 in each exponent of e, as well as multiplying the entire equation by -68.8, resulting in a curve almost exactly as wide as it is tall!

    • @ethansmith876
      @ethansmith876 2 роки тому +1

      Saarinen my beloved

    • @csar07.
      @csar07. 2 роки тому +12

      You ascend to a new level when you get your own favourite mathematical curve

  • @juanroldan529
    @juanroldan529 3 роки тому +351

    Awesome video! It's been just a few days since I have fallen in the rabbit hole of differential equations. I must say that I love your videos and that they inspire me to keep on improving and learning. Thank you!

    • @morphocular
      @morphocular  3 роки тому +50

      That's great! I'm so glad you found these videos so valuable. One of my hopes for this channel was to inspire others to learn and love math, so it pleases me deeply to be succeeding in that.
      I wish you the best on your continuing studies :)

    • @redtortoise
      @redtortoise 2 роки тому +1

      @@morphocular first

    • @maxwellhavoc6996
      @maxwellhavoc6996 Рік тому

      @@redtortoise I am confused by what you are trying to say.

    • @mohre401
      @mohre401 6 місяців тому +1

      Hi, is this even a differential equation? To me a differential equation is an equation in which the function itself and one or more derivatives appear which isn't the case in this example

    • @juanroldan529
      @juanroldan529 6 місяців тому

      @@mohre401 have you even watched the video?

  • @RFVisionary
    @RFVisionary 2 роки тому +38

    Great tutorial. Good didactic structure. Instructive, helpful and optically "super nice" to look at.

  • @pulli23
    @pulli23 2 роки тому +157

    I'm late: but there's a single also important point to make a "square wheel" work. The very point that needs to stay at the height also needs to be the center of mass. Otherwise a wheel would give a force rolling back/forward during part of it's movement.

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 2 роки тому +57

      We can assume a powerful motor is spinning the wheel on a fixed gear system so the wheel's mass doesn't effect the motion

    • @whoisgliese
      @whoisgliese 2 роки тому +19

      @@mujtabaalam5907 epic lateral thinking thanks

    • @gcewing
      @gcewing 2 роки тому +37

      You can always achieve that by weighting the wheel appropriately, so it's not a constraint on the wheel's shape.

    • @johnmount5487
      @johnmount5487 2 роки тому +12

      That “force” exists even if the axle is at the center of mass. If the wheel is rotating at a constant angular speed the horizontal speed is by definition not constant (changing by a factor or r).the effect is exaggerated as the axle is moved away from the axle as the extremes of the bounds of the radius get larger. The wheels horizontal speed, speeds up and slows down constantly throughout its travel for any shape other than a circle

    • @aaaab384
      @aaaab384 2 роки тому +2

      its*

  • @alriktimo644
    @alriktimo644 2 роки тому +5

    When I watched this video, I just realised that my intuition is strong that without even a mathematical description I can jump to the right conclusion, but at the same time I realised I lacked the ability to articulate since I didn't understand it mathematically or completely realising the fact that how this is so or 'How come?' in simple terms.
    I need to strengthen my mathematical comprehension of data into equations and other methods.
    Thanks 👍

  • @ineedtogetoutmore1848
    @ineedtogetoutmore1848 2 роки тому +3

    that “Pivotal Role” pun at 11:14 was painful, well done

  • @mullactalk
    @mullactalk 3 роки тому +2

    This channel is a hidden gem of maths UA-cam

  • @meade6291
    @meade6291 2 роки тому +85

    The flaw in this is a vehicle with a continuous force applied through is engine to the axle wouldn't experience bumps in the x axis, but it would experience lurches and lags in it's movement on the y axis. Therefore it still would not be a comfortable drive unless the wheels rotational speed was constantly adjusted.

    • @eventhisidistaken
      @eventhisidistaken 2 роки тому +13

      Sure, but 'continuous force' was not specified. Yes, I'm an engineer.

    • @ob_stacle
      @ob_stacle 2 роки тому +5

      and if there's any wheelspin at all you'll be on the worst road in existance

    • @meade6291
      @meade6291 2 роки тому +4

      @@ob_stacle holy shite I hadn't thought about that

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 2 роки тому +7

      I think you switched the axis, the axles aren't moving vertically at all.

    • @meade6291
      @meade6291 2 роки тому +3

      @@afoxwithahat7846 yep, and I teach coordinate plane. Shame on me

  • @bloomp7999
    @bloomp7999 2 роки тому +2

    I deeply agree with your channel description and the Poincaré quote, i'm in for what you do, keep the good work !

  • @enbyarchmage
    @enbyarchmage 2 роки тому +42

    This video made me love catenaries even more, and I already considered them one of my favorite curves of all time! 🤩
    I like catenaries bc they appear everywhere, from the Brachistochrone problem to architecture. For instance, Catalan architect Antoni Gaudi took pictures of carefully arranged sets of hanging chains and turned them upside down to model the structure of the most famous church he designed, bc upside-down catenaries make EXTREMELY stable arches. Isn't that beautiful? 🥰

  • @bifidoc
    @bifidoc 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @drmathochist06
    @drmathochist06 2 роки тому +26

    Maybe you get to this later, but the "stationary rim property" also follows from the pivot principle. When the point in the wheel is the contact point itself, then any line through that point can do for the reference line in the orthogonal motion property. Only one possible velocity could be orthogonal to every line: 0.

  • @sozo8537
    @sozo8537 2 роки тому +2

    The dopamine hit i got when i successfully calculated the equation of the road was something else. I thank you for presenting this problem.

  • @danelyn.1374
    @danelyn.1374 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like I've stumbled onto a video about a question that I never had in mind, and, along with an amazing explanation of the entire problem, has given me a solution that I am really satisfied by and solves that problem?
    plus the explanation is amazing so like, mad props

  • @saintgermain6694
    @saintgermain6694 3 роки тому +3

    I never expected it to be that intuitive! Thanks for the really really great video.

  • @tsar_asterov17
    @tsar_asterov17 Рік тому +1

    This video is amazing, and all of his videos, ngl are basically 3b1b on light mode

  • @amaarquadri
    @amaarquadri 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! You took an idea that seemed complicated at first and explained it so well that it seemed almost obvious in hindsight.

  • @LoganCralle
    @LoganCralle 2 роки тому +3

    Incredible video. I just took a dynamics course at university and I learned so much. This is an incredible application of maths. Bravo 👏

  • @_Mike57_
    @_Mike57_ 2 роки тому +21

    it's all fun and games until you have to turn

  • @gergonagy846
    @gergonagy846 2 роки тому

    I'm safe to say, that this is the most engaging video that I've ever watched.

  • @RFVisionary
    @RFVisionary 2 роки тому +2

    great tutorial. good didactic structure. instructive, helpful and optically "super nice" to look at.

  • @philosophymikebill
    @philosophymikebill 2 роки тому +41

    Do you mind if I ask what programs/language/code you used to make this video? I'm attempting to learn this sort of simulation, but I'm not sure where to start.
    Thank you for making these videos. I've been trying to figure out this topic in my head for several years and this is the first meaningful insight I've come across in a good long while.

    • @morphocular
      @morphocular  2 роки тому +27

      I actually used my own homemade software to make the animations in this video. You can find the software here if you want to play with it:
      github.com/morpho-matters/morpholib
      However, it's still largely just a personal project and the documentation is rather sparse. A more well-established and popular tool for making similar animations is called Manim, which you can find here:
      www.manim.community/
      Hope this helps :)

    • @philosophymikebill
      @philosophymikebill 2 роки тому +5

      @@morphocular I really appreciate the advice and even sharing your program! Thank you for getting back to me

    • @alexv1129
      @alexv1129 2 роки тому +3

      @@morphocular Math is interesting and fun - but I am subbing because of this right here. Amazing of you to be so kind and helpful. Good luck, creator!

    • @ianhickey3423
      @ianhickey3423 2 роки тому +3

      @@morphocular This is so unbelievably cool

  • @AJMansfield1
    @AJMansfield1 2 роки тому +38

    19:45 It seems like the road shape depends on how you parameterize the wheel's rotation then -- the function I always instinctively reach for when parameterizing straight lines in polar coordinates is the secant function, and I'd have written that line as { r(t) = sec(t), θ(t) = t }

    • @AJMansfield1
      @AJMansfield1 2 роки тому +3

      (In fact, you can choose *any* θ(t) parameterization you want, and just use r(t) = sec(θ(t)) to get a straight line for whatever speed you rotate the wheel at.)

    • @Chariotuber
      @Chariotuber 2 роки тому +2

      This is interesting. I suppose you can get from your parameterization to his by the change of variables t → tan(t'). I wonder if this freedom of parameterization has any physical meaning.

    • @AJMansfield1
      @AJMansfield1 2 роки тому +2

      @@Chariotuber I went and simulated it, and the resulting road curves *are* actually different from each other.

    • @Chariotuber
      @Chariotuber 2 роки тому +14

      @@AJMansfield1 Oh, how did you simulate it? On my end, starting with your parameterization, I ended up doing the standard integral of sec(t) which is ln(|sec(t)+tan(t)|). I then plotted this parametrically on Desmos (typing in
      "(ln(|sec(t)+tan(t)|),-sec(t))"
      on the first line) with the domain [-π/2,π/2] for t. It already looked close to the catenary shape. But to make sure, on the 2nd line I put in his solution of y=-cosh(x), and the curves stack on top of each other rather exactly.

    • @dyld921
      @dyld921 2 роки тому +7

      The parametrization of the road would change, but the shape (x-y relationship) wouldn't.

  • @dj_laundry_list
    @dj_laundry_list 2 роки тому +1

    What the hell is this? It's awesome. I think it would be more complete/satisfying to state that the vertical alignment property relies on shapes being convex, but honestly this is one of the best math(s) videos i've seen for a while

  • @AlmondAxis987
    @AlmondAxis987 5 місяців тому

    I actually watched this last year when I was in 8th grade. I didnt understand anything, obviously. And now, after learning basic calculus from youtube, it makes SO much more sense! Also, I want to say that the visual building of the road section is BEAUTIFUL.

  • @officiallyaninja
    @officiallyaninja 3 роки тому +2

    this video is so good. its criminal that you don't have hundreds of thousands of subs

    • @Happy_Abe
      @Happy_Abe 3 роки тому

      In time we’ll get this channel there

  • @H3xx1st
    @H3xx1st 2 роки тому +2

    You explained that beautifully! I am definitely looking forward to your future videos.

  • @DitieBun
    @DitieBun 2 роки тому +1

    4:15
    This is the most insane wheel I've ever seen, and I'm here for it

  • @stuartl7761
    @stuartl7761 2 роки тому +2

    6:10 I love that the first and last terms cancelled happily :D
    Loved the proof too, I must remember to check through if complex numbers might help when I come across a problem.

    • @morphocular
      @morphocular  2 роки тому +3

      A good hint that complex numbers might help is if your problem involves 2D rotation or 2D rotational symmetry. That's where complex numbers often come in handy!

  • @LunaAlphaKretin
    @LunaAlphaKretin 2 роки тому +16

    I'm curious what would happen if you impose the additional restriction of making the axle's horizontal speed (and, hence, velocity) constant (given constant rotation speed). I noticed the speed seemed to vary a lot with that particularly arbitrary-shaped wheel example at 4:18, which would probably be a disconcerting experience as a driver. Still I imagine the answer is that you can't have a road that does both - to prevent a change in horizontal speed you'd probably need a different road that causes vertical changes. What if we just say "constant velocity", allowing the vertical position of the axle to change as long as it feels like a smooth slope would for a circle-wheeled driver. I don't know how that would go, but it feels more likely to be possible.

    • @WaluigiisthekingASmith
      @WaluigiisthekingASmith 2 роки тому +4

      The second equation says dx/dx =rdtheta/dt. Differentiating a second time d^2x/dt^2= dr/dt dtheta/dt +r dtheta^2/dt^2. Given your restriction dr/dt dtheta/dt = -r dtheta^2/dt^2. Thus r'/r =u'/u. Doing what any good physicist would do and pretending we can just cancel our differentials like fractions, we get ln(r *dtheta)= c and thus dtheta/dt =c/r

    • @joaogiorgini1326
      @joaogiorgini1326 2 роки тому +4

      Make velocity constant with constant rotational speed? In other words, dx/dt=cte and d0/dt=cte. Meaning, in the second equation, r must also be a constant.
      In other words, the only shape that satisfies a truly smooth ride is a circle.

    • @bears7777777
      @bears7777777 2 роки тому +1

      I think the only way this would be possible would be to allow wheel slip. The amount of slip would be the fastest angular speed - slowest angular speed. The slip would have to occur when the point of contact is farther than the minimum. For the square, this would be when the point of contact tends towards the corners as they are farther from the center then the center of a side. I’m not sure that’s even solvable though

    • @scifiordie
      @scifiordie Рік тому

      Nobody cares bro get a life

  • @SophiaBrouchoud-se1ht
    @SophiaBrouchoud-se1ht 8 місяців тому

    Who needs to spend thousands of dollars on therapy when you have this guy and his wheels? This genuenly sooths my brain and I love to learn things like this so yippy!

  • @brucea9871
    @brucea9871 2 роки тому +6

    Very interesting video and analysis. I'll be watching more of your videos. This one reminds me of an old comic strip. It was called BC and based in prehistoric times. Their only form of transportation (other than walking) was what they called the wheel. It was a circular wheel with an axle through the centre and they stood on the axle to ride the wheel. (How they propelled it - especially uphill - is beyond me.) In one of the strip's comics (presumably before they thought of using circular wheels and hence only had square wheels) one character declares to another he has derived an improvement to the square wheel and produces a triangular wheel. "Improvement?", the second character says, confused. The first character replied "It eliminates one bump". But of course if they designed their roads as you specified they could actually have square or triangular wheels with no bumps. (Somehow I think it would be easier to come up with a circular wheel.)

  • @TheCynicalOne
    @TheCynicalOne 2 роки тому +5

    I want an entire video, or at least a short, dedicated to the orthogonal movement principle. It’s a mess and I want to dive in with full understanding! Great video about the wheels too. I feel like many of the wheels shown would slip a lot on their roads, so I guess the dream of bumpy square wheeled roads is a long shot lol.

    • @DonkoXI
      @DonkoXI Рік тому

      The proof he gave is actually pretty clean all things considered. If you are interested in understanding it, I highly recommend looking through it and trying to understand his reasoning one step at a time. You can ignore the algebraic details at first, but try to understand the concepts in the argument. If you understand the way complex numbers work well enough, it should all be pretty intuitive with some time. If you don't feel very comfortable with how complex numbers work, then stopping and thinking about each detail of this proof will actually be a pretty good way to get a better understanding of how they work.
      What feels clean to me is of course subjective though.

  • @duncanhw
    @duncanhw 2 роки тому +5

    Great video! Love how you started by making the equations and then deriving the shape from them! Can't wait for the next video.
    also, wouldn't the wine glasses in the thumbnail be knocked forward/backward due the second law of road-wheel motion?

  • @TheGiuse45
    @TheGiuse45 Рік тому +1

    This was a question on the high school finals in italy a few years back

  • @thirockerr
    @thirockerr 2 роки тому +5

    Nice video ! I would be interested to see how you would present the optimal road shape taking into account a specific mass for the wheel, the gravitationnal force.

  • @vikn331
    @vikn331 2 роки тому

    This is the perfect example of "I have no idea what this man is talking about, but I like it"

  • @sriramn1809
    @sriramn1809 2 роки тому

    First video ive seen on this channel.
    Wondering why youtube took so long to recommend me stuff from here.
    This channel is amazing!

  • @TerrifyingBird
    @TerrifyingBird 2 роки тому +1

    This problem (or rather a simpler version of the problem) ended up in an italian high school final exam, in 2017. It is to this day one of the most iconic problems to ever appear on the test.

  • @k7iq
    @k7iq 2 роки тому +4

    This is fantastic ! 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2
    But would a square wheel do good in snow or maybe even ice ?

  • @pastadcasta
    @pastadcasta 2 роки тому +1

    I have a way I like to think about it, if you take the path that the axle takes when the shape is rolled continuously over a flat surface, and use that for the road surface, the shape will roll smoothly. It's cool to see the algebraic representation of that though.
    Very cool video! ^^

    • @steffahn
      @steffahn 2 роки тому +2

      A square wheel rolled over a flat surface will actually just pivot around each of the 4 corners. Thus, the axle would take a path composed of a series of arcs (i.e. sections of the perimeter of a circle), which is definitely *different* from the series of catenaries that are shown in this video to be the shape of road that you need.

  • @blackboxlearning
    @blackboxlearning Рік тому

    I was hoping to make a video on this exact topic, but I guess it has already been beautifully covered by this channel. While checking for that, I came across this channel and I love the animations and their interactivity. Already subbed. Expect a video soon covering more stuff, cus I'm not leaving the idea :)

  • @manifaridi9200
    @manifaridi9200 2 роки тому +2

    I hate mathematics but man... look how beautiful it is.

    • @WAMTAT
      @WAMTAT Рік тому +2

      You don't hate math, you just hate how it was taught to you.

    • @blackbeast9268
      @blackbeast9268 Рік тому +1

      Trust me nobody hates math. I used to have E and was on my way to F but then i moved school and my teacher was amazing and i got A because he explained everything so well and got me motivated. Math is a language with rules and if you're teacher doesn't explain the rules in details it will be boring because you rely on common methods and formulas instead of understanding why they work.
      It's very fun and i would argue chemistry or physics are much harder then any math expect super high level .

  • @iskallman5706
    @iskallman5706 2 роки тому

    This is as good as mathematics vidéos get. The pinacle.

  • @ДаниилРабинович-б9п

    I am pretty sure you can easily derive the pivot principle from the fact the contact point is stationary:
    observation 1: the wheel is a 2D rigid body, so its motion is fully described by horizontal speed, vertical speed, and rotational speed, so it has 3 degrees of freedom.
    observation 2: the constraint that the contact point is stationary restricts 2 degrees of freedom, thus leaving 1 degree of freedom.
    observation 3: pivoting motion satisfies the stationary contact point constraints and has 1 degree of freedom.
    therefore pivoting motion is the only possible way to satisfy the stationary contact point constraint.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 2 роки тому +1

      When he said it was _really hard to prove_ I was confused, as this is the only motion available due to the no-slip-condition and the rigid body motion.
      But honestly, the statement of the question itself is almost the proof of the question. You want to figure out how to prove that all points on the wheel move periductular around the contact point, well, proof by exhaustion, there are no other ways it could move around the contact point but to pivot, and the definition of pivoting, as noted in this video, is perpendicular motion about a point.

  • @adrianmisak07
    @adrianmisak07 3 роки тому +1

    fantastic video… cant even express how impressive this is to me, I try to do math recreationally after getting my masters in applied math…

  • @vitorguilhermecoutinhodeba3253
    @vitorguilhermecoutinhodeba3253 2 роки тому +1

    It is a nice video, even though I think some properties have different names in here. Instant center of rotation is the center (no pun intended) of all this procedure, and wasn’t mentioned. The animations were very good!

  • @miguelcabaero5843
    @miguelcabaero5843 2 роки тому

    I love the production quality

  • @tracy449
    @tracy449 3 роки тому +10

    Thanks for the video. I learned a lot. Also, I have a question: If the axle moves at a constant velocity, does the wheel rotate with a constant angular velocity?

    • @morphocular
      @morphocular  3 роки тому +17

      Thanks for watching! To answer your question: Not necessarily! The second Road-Wheel equation says the axle's velocity is dx/dt = r dθ/dt, where dθ/dt is the angular velocity. So the only way both the axle velocity and the angular velocity can be constant is if the wheel has a constant radius, meaning this will only happen for the case of a circular wheel.

    • @TheHuesSciTech
      @TheHuesSciTech 2 роки тому

      @@morphocular Fascinating -- I *believe* an involute rack and pinion has the property of dx/dt = k dθ/dt, where k is a fixed property of a given gear (the radius of the gear's "pitch circle", or half the "pitch diameter", perhaps?). This would appear to contradict the statement you made above, but I believe that might be because you're assuming no slippage between the wheel and road in your video, whereas an involute rack and pinion does have slippage?

    • @cheshire1
      @cheshire1 2 роки тому

      @@TheHuesSciTech The equation you gave is approximately true, since a gear is pretty close to a circle.

    • @TheHuesSciTech
      @TheHuesSciTech 2 роки тому

      @@cheshire1 It's approximately true for all gears, yes. But I believe it's *precisely* true for an involute gear. (Neglecting real-world clearances and manufacturing tolerances, of course.)

    • @cheshire1
      @cheshire1 2 роки тому

      ​@@TheHuesSciTech You may be right, involute gears do have slippage (and the contact point jumps around instead of staying on a vertical line), so the argument from the video doesn't work in their case.

  • @kinkinawesome
    @kinkinawesome 3 роки тому +2

    Exited for the next videos!

  • @agy3256
    @agy3256 2 роки тому

    This video is pure gold

  • @mateuszbaginski5075
    @mateuszbaginski5075 3 роки тому

    I can't really point to what it is in your videos that makes them one of the best I discovered through 3B1B's SoME. Whatever it is, you are grokking it, man.

  • @lenskihe
    @lenskihe 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome 👍 I tried to solve this problem on my own once. I'm glad I watched this video, because now I know that I would never have been able to do it 😂

  • @phlapjakz
    @phlapjakz 2 роки тому +1

    it always amazes me how e manages shows up everywhere even when the problem looks like it has nothing to do with it

  • @badpriestess_
    @badpriestess_ 2 роки тому +1

    this video gave me calculus PTSD flashbacks. loved it

  • @bitroix_
    @bitroix_ 2 роки тому +1

    This is an amazing video! Thank you.

  • @Adam-pj2qh
    @Adam-pj2qh 9 місяців тому

    thats so sick, finally some applied mathemathics!!!

  • @deathpigeon2
    @deathpigeon2 2 роки тому +8

    While a flat ride is certainly an important thing for a smooth ride, I'm not convinced it's sufficient. It seems reasonable to describe a jerky ride as also a non-smooth ride. That is to say, given a constant torque applied to the wheel, the third derivative (the jerk) of the forward motion produced by the wheel spinning should be precisely equal to zero.
    Put another way, a linear acceleration of the rotation of the wheel should produce linear forward acceleration for the whole system.
    Now, I think the stationary rim principle should be sufficient to ensure that this is the case because it ensures that the rim speed and the axle speed are equal, but I think it'd be insufficient to consider only the flatness of a ride to determine if it's properly a smooth ride.

    • @klikkolee
      @klikkolee 2 роки тому +5

      We are used to vehicles which are propelled by the wheels. However, if the vehicle is moved by means unrelated to its wheels, then the criterion in the video is sufficient. For vehicles which are wheel-propelled, unless a fanciful control system regulates the wheel speed, your additional criterion is required to make the vehicle feel subjectively smooth to a real human occupant.
      The no-slip condition (stationary rim principle in this video) does *not* guarantee your criterion. The r in the no-slip equation is a function of t. Your criterion is only consistent with the no-slip condition if the radius is constant -- meaning a circular wheel.

    • @deathpigeon2
      @deathpigeon2 2 роки тому

      @@klikkolee ...Right. I was thinking it'd ensure 0 jerk because it ensures that the rotational velocity at the touching point and the forward velocity at the axel are the same, but, for constant torque, the velocity at the touching point would be in part a function of the distance from the axel so you *need* at least some slipping to ensure a smooth ride unless you have a constant distance from the axel (ie being a circle as you said).

    • @Nuclear868
      @Nuclear868 2 роки тому +1

      What if, in case of a car, we make the distance between the front and the rear wheels such that front and rear wheels are offset - when the front wheels have the highest angular speed, the rear wheels have the lowest angular speed? Yes, they will not cancel out completely, but will reduce the 'jerk' feeling.

    • @eventhisidistaken
      @eventhisidistaken 2 роки тому +2

      Who said the torque had to be constant? Stop trying to impose your roundism on the rest of us.

    • @klikkolee
      @klikkolee 2 роки тому

      @@eventhisidistaken It would be a substantial engineering challenge to create a vehicle where the torque applied by the wheels varies in perfect concert with the road shape. Without that perfection, a wheel-propelled vehicle can't have a smooth ride on an extreme road without slipping.

  • @ANZEMusic
    @ANZEMusic 2 роки тому +5

    This is a really good video. The math is fascinating, and you present it clearly with exceptional visuals, and I greatly appreciate it

  • @the25thdoctor
    @the25thdoctor 2 роки тому +1

    What I love about this is, it has a simple answer. Think gears, and a gear rack. But is far more complicated to preform

  • @Error-xl3ty
    @Error-xl3ty 2 роки тому

    Videos like this are why I love math

  • @arkdotgif
    @arkdotgif 2 роки тому +1

    13:30 WELCOME TO WHEEL SPACE. YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN REMEMBER.

  • @g10royalle
    @g10royalle 2 роки тому

    The animations are so satisfying

  • @NoOffenseAnimation
    @NoOffenseAnimation 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, I like to wonder what this would look like in practise, if someone were to try this in the real world, but of course there would be a great deal of other things to consider

  • @convincingmountain
    @convincingmountain 2 роки тому +1

    very nice video, i really enjoyed the small steps taken each time to get to the answer. and even then, there's so much more to discover! well presented and paced, didn't feel like half an hour. your consistent use of both visual and verbal explanations for each new idea is great.

  • @user-hd9oh9bk8b
    @user-hd9oh9bk8b 2 роки тому

    it's honestly fascinating how many titles and thumbnails this exact video's had. i've heard about this but never gotten to see it firsthand

  • @jursamaj
    @jursamaj 2 роки тому +10

    The horizontal motion of the axle is necessary for a smooth ride, but not sufficient. It needs to be *smooth* horizontal motion, not jerking forward and back. That, in turn, requires the wheels to rotate at highly variable speed. But that's not how driven axles tend to work.
    Additionally, when the wheel is moving up the slope, the wheel will be moving too fast at any given moment. Combined with the uphill configuration, you basically guarantee slippage. You face a similar problem on the downhill side, but inverse. Those novelty tourist attractions tend to reduce both these effects by having the front & back wheels be exactly a half wave out of phase. That way the slippage either way hopefully cancels out, and one axle can be speeding up while the other is slowing down.

  • @negi6071
    @negi6071 2 роки тому +1

    this is an amazing video, it went much more in depth that i thought it would and im so glad for that, 10/10

  • @arlyu606
    @arlyu606 Рік тому

    I reeeally love your content. Thank you for all your videos :-)

  • @ZotyLisu
    @ZotyLisu 2 роки тому

    this should have way more views

  • @WeeIrishLaddie1
    @WeeIrishLaddie1 Рік тому +2

    I'd be interested in a sister video where "smooth" was defined as "constant velocity" rather than "constant axel height", ie changing the axel height in the wheel as it rolls to keep it moving horizontally at constant speed

  • @vicslav4030
    @vicslav4030 2 роки тому +1

    aye Buddy thats aboot the moost accurate film aye seen in ayewhile friend. oh Canadaa a great and noble land oh Canada we stand on your glory

  • @MCMikeProductionsYouTube17
    @MCMikeProductionsYouTube17 2 роки тому +1

    We need him as a school teacher.

  • @firiasu
    @firiasu Рік тому

    So good explanation!

  • @aayushjachak182
    @aayushjachak182 24 дні тому

    Your videos are quite amazing , do you use a particular software to make these videos?

  • @debmalyalodh1
    @debmalyalodh1 6 місяців тому

    1:35 IDC what anyone says but THAT INTRO SONG IS FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

  • @Josephi_Krakowski
    @Josephi_Krakowski 2 роки тому

    These are the type of videos I watch at 3 AM

  • @小绿苦力怕
    @小绿苦力怕 2 роки тому +3

    When you try to stop the wheel, wouldnt it be unable to stop at some certain points though? For example, for the square wheel, if you trying to stop just a bit further forward from the x value of top of a "bump", wouldnt the wheel roll toward the next "ditch"?

  • @blaze8862
    @blaze8862 2 роки тому +1

    I haven't learned trig yet and I've only slightly touched on graphing, yet I watched a 30 minute video on the topic, and I loved every last minute of it

  • @learningFalcon108
    @learningFalcon108 2 роки тому +1

    KEEP IT UP BRO U ARE DOING GREAT WORK ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @dirichlettt
    @dirichlettt 2 роки тому

    This is a beautiful video.

  • @Danker1248
    @Danker1248 2 роки тому

    this was a very enjoyable video

  • @redyau_
    @redyau_ 2 роки тому +1

    The way you use - I assume - MAnim is absolutely outstanding. I bet you come to understand every concept you explain in an incredible depth as you code these. Really impressive!

  • @karllenc
    @karllenc Рік тому

    amaizing! just amazing video! Thanks

  • @VagueHandWaving
    @VagueHandWaving 2 роки тому +1

    If you want a non circular wheel that moves with constant speed, you can give the wheel a non uniform mass density such that when the wheel would slow down, the part on the bottom that is moving slower is made more massive. It's momentum is transfered to the entire wheel body, maintaining a constant velocity.
    Most likely the mass distribution would be such that every dTheta slice around the axle has the same mass regardless of radius.
    (Constant moment of inertia)

  • @antoinedebray7937
    @antoinedebray7937 2 роки тому

    I know a magician never reveals his trick... but I beg you to explain me something : at 20:46 you do a simplification and... tadaaa ! The square root jumps from above the fraction bar to under it. I don't get how and it puzzles me a lot.
    Would you mind giving me (or us all ?) details about this dark magic ?
    Thank you for this awesome video
    EDIT: God I feel silly for not having found the answer myself earlier but I got it. And even more because I think it is one of the easiest thing in your video...
    If anyone is looking for it: sqrt(a)/a = sqrt(a)/[(sqrt(a)*sqrt(a)]
    So yes it is quite simple to do simplification

  • @lamenwatch1877
    @lamenwatch1877 2 роки тому +2

    Let's make an ATV that dynamically morphs it's wheel shape for the terrain.
    EDIT: 27:13
    But what is the factorial of negative "ish"?

  • @oskarandreasolsen495
    @oskarandreasolsen495 2 роки тому +1

    When describing the small timesteps in the visual prrof at the end, maybe it would be more specific using a Δt->dt for smaller and smaller time steps :) But great video! really liked it!

  • @bemoji1751
    @bemoji1751 2 роки тому +1

    Finally a brain cell generator saved me from someone who force me see TikTok 🎉🎉🎉

  • @brayli86
    @brayli86 2 роки тому +1

    Must have for BMW E46 Coupe drivers 😁

  • @iamtraditi4075
    @iamtraditi4075 2 роки тому

    I know I'm late, but this is really good!

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT Рік тому

    Great video. You've earned a subscriber

  • @Cesar-ey7wu
    @Cesar-ey7wu Рік тому +1

    You would actually feel "bumps" in a square wheeled car because for a constant speed, the rotational speed of square varies (you can see it in the video : it's accelerating when it gets to the side of the square and slowing down on the corner). So if your engine is putting a constant torque to the wheel, the car's acceleration would vary four times for each wheel rotation, which wouldn't be comfy at all.

  • @ultimagnum3511
    @ultimagnum3511 3 місяці тому +7

    Is it just me, or is the beginning cut off?

  • @nalat1suket4nk0
    @nalat1suket4nk0 2 роки тому

    Awesome!!! You used math and physics so cool

  • @johnnyvishnevskiy8090
    @johnnyvishnevskiy8090 2 роки тому +3

    I'm more interested in how this transfers over to 3 dimensions and how turning affects how the shape of the road is made.