I'm done with Moc Belts. (Follow up and resolution)
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Oh boy do I HATE all of this.
In the 3 months since uploading my first video about my experience with Moc Belts, things really came to a head.
It took 15 months and a lot of headaches but I got what was owed. Even then there were just too many asterisks and red flags that came along the way.
Ultimately it came down to getting loud and thrashing about to get the bare minimum done. Nobody should have to go through all of this.
So he's not a scam artist (?) but just really bad at this. Definitely not worth the hassle. I'm not taking down my other video and I'm not taking down anything else I said because as far as I am concerned, I haven't lied about anything and it's impossible for Fahad to prove otherwise. All of the DMs I have with him are still up on my Twitter along my breakdown of the timeline of me dealing with him for everyone to see.
Honestly, everyone, if you can try and get your money back and put it elsewhere. If you haven't been burnt by him yet, you will eventually.
FIFTEEN. MONTHS.
Thanks for telling me your experience, I was about to get the 24K intercontinental belt, but after seeing multiple people being unsatisfied I think I’ll pass and do more research
Hey man. I ordered a belt from MOC in 2020.
And he kept asking me "when I wanted the belt". and when I told him I am ready to make the rest of the payment he would disappear and not respond for 6 to 8 weeks at a time.
I waited nearly a year and he kept saying updates are coming but non did. The only updates I got were the same update images that he sent to everyone else.
When I asked him why it is taking so long e said that I was ungrateful and I should be patient.
After a full year of false updates, no communication for weeks on end. I left the deposit I gave him and cut my loses and blocked him on all forms of communication as I was tired of his lies.
MOC is the worst in the hobby
Sorry you went through this man. I legit just bought my first belt ever from Moc belts and I bought and received my belt within a week. I guess everyone’s experiences are different
Not sure what the rhyme or reason is for who gets a belt or not. Some people who ordered before me are STILL waiting on theirs. Some got it really fast. And now they've ghosted on people across all social media. I've given them a year to prove to me and everyone that they're legit but they've gotten worse with interactions.
Glad I found your video. I was looking into ordering a belt from him. Not going to now.
glad you aren't going to place an order with him. Trust me, im going back and forth with the B to get my money back. He is such a scumbag
I was just about to make an impulse buy from MOC belts because see they have an imperfect AEW TNT title on sale for $149.99. But after seeing your videos and reading that a lot of people are having the same problems I don't feel comfortable making the purchase for that price and having to deal with what you all have dealt with. Thanks for the video warnings.
It's a shame really all he had to do was be fully honest and transparent with the times but he did this all to himself.
Great Video man,
I've been waiting since august for my MOC belt.
I just ordered the Classic Intercontinental championship from FCLUB VK, amazing work. Got it within a week.
Glad to hear it! IC title is definitely one I wanna get down the road.
Dude do they make AEW belts?
@@jchesh7617 nah, I wish. They do amazing work
3 times moc belts has made me wait for belts and everytime I messaged moc belts they keep on telling you are going to get belt but they make you play the waiting game so no more belts from moc belts for me .
I will NOT be ordering from MB again. I ordered a TV Style AEW Championship and received an Economy version. I know what I got because of the pictures presented on their own site to show the difference. I emailed for over 2 weeks about this issue and all I got was they are 100% sure of what they sent me. I just stopped emailing but your video has relight the spark to get my issue fixed. he charges too much for what he is doing.
I will always insist that everyone who has had an issue with Moc Belts get publicly loud. Even if you don't get the results you want, you cam be a cautionary tale for anyone willing to do business with them.
Sad to hear bro. Unfortunately it seems to be the norm from some of these bootleg companies.
So glad I decided to look at this video before buying. The quality is obviously shite, but 70% off, can’t beat it. But now that I know they don’t fulfill orders on time and their customer service sucks ass. I will never buy from them ever. Not even for a 99% off sale
I've been waiting for 9 months, not just empty promises
I ordered two Moc Belts few days ago. Hope it shows up within two months as he states. We will see 👀
Keep us updated. Good luck to you!
What happened?
Nothing yet. Still waiting..lol
@@jasonchen1733 did u get it
Bro it’s gonna be A LONG WAIT. I hope I’m wrong BUT.... Yeah you’re in for a ride my friend.
I'm glad I watched this
It's been close to 2 years and I still haven't got my aew belt
A good ol " calling out on social media" got me where I needed to.
It took months of calling them out on twitter, Facebook and making 3 videos here on UA-cam and even then I wasn't attempting to get anything but it worked.
My biggest goal was just making others aware of what was going on.
Been waiting since June 18th 2020 for my belt…guy refuses to give me a refund, complete trash!
Yep Sam here. Ordered a belt from him May 2021. Still haven’t gotten my belt.
I’m glad I found your video. I was gonna order a belt from them and I was very skeptical about the “good reviews” on their website. Not anymore, I guess I’ll wait till shopAew to restock on their AEW championship belts
Happy to help, it's why I still keep the videos up. On the Facebook page Moc Belts Unfiltered, Ikram is still there trolling people and making false promises. He's not as frequent but some people ordered BEFORE me and still haven't received their belts yet and he blames them for not doing a charge back sooner, yet he still promises its on the way. It's disgusting.
Yup. Ordered mine over a year ago. Has said it was ready a few times and to expect it in so many weeks. Came and went, nothing. Asked for the refund several times as the site used to say money back guaranteed, not once did he ever address the request. Got a screenshots of the money back guarantee that use to be there. He then (after the previously mentioned email that belt was ready) proceeded to ask me if a textured belt is okay. After saying it was ready. Has asked me for my address several times despite sending him screenshots of our emails and the PayPal confirmation. Legit the worst experience trying to fulfill a childhood dream. I wouldn’t be as pissed if he didn’t say it was ready. I understand something taking time. If it was stated “shit may take a year or two to come in” it would be on me. But he said it was ready more than once and to expect it in so many weeks more than once. That shit isn’t right. It’s robbery.
Fahad Inkram is a scumbag. never order from moc belt again
geez, im glad i never bought from MOC belts
Yeah man I feel you. It's such a shame because their craftsmanship looks incredible. Just the communication and customer care is dreadful. It's been over 5 months and for weeks now my belt has been in final assembly and multiple times I am quoted the wrong belt. Trying to give benefit of the doubt but damn. Glad you got yours! If you don't want it, would you like to part with it??
Ugh, almost half a year? This sucks. Sorry to hear. Just keep an open dialogue with him! And yeah I might hold onto this. This was originally a gift for someone and things escalated. I might keep this one for myself after I got them the official belt. 😅
@@DrDirtyLeggz I totally understand believe me. I just want this damn belt so bad and I am supposed to have soon. Nice to see this being addressed in these comments.
@@jchesh7617 pm me and let me know the order number and belt
@@fahadikram5459 Hi Fahad. I have several times. Order #1506. There's an unread PM for you from yesterday. Please go check and give me an accurate timeframe. Like I said I'd like to have this for review for my channel like I was promised many times and months now.
@@jchesh7617 let me see and give you update in 10 mins. If it's aew then will take some time
I learned my lesson, spending money on a FB belt page that had minimal reviews. Trust me, I have bought 2 at AJS Belts, they have a web page but also a FB group with many people, and many good reviews. Sorry you had to go through that ordeal. Hope things go better for you now on.
Been a year since I ordered my IWGP belt and still haven't received it. Bank won't reverse the transaction because its been so long since I've ordered
Yeah that's exactly what happened with me on PayPal. He was cooperative up until the 6th month when he ghosted me. I started getting antagonistic and then once the first full year hit thats when I went fully nuclear on here, facebook and twitter. I suggest doing the same!
@@DrDirtyLeggz I did. I made a short saying I was about to upload a video about my experience. They finally responded after 2 months and then they tried to offer me someone else's AEW instead of my IWGP. I'm making my videos public if he doesn't ship my belt first week in April like he said
I ordered a NWA tag belt and I'm still trying to get it
Get loud and tag him all over social media
Ordered my belt in may 2021 still no belt .. havnt heard from the dude in months .. I keep sending him the same e mail over and over .. what a pos !
Dude is trash. He just went on a tirade blaming me if nobody gets their belts anymore. People gotta pay upfront and he's just like "welp, not my problem anymore!"
I had a similar experience with MOC Belts, but I got sick of the lies and bullshit that I opened up a case through PayPal and got my money back.
Yeah, I was not lucky enough to get through on PayPal. They said "Welp, you took too long and now there nothing we can do about it." So, here I am.
Yeah, that sucks man. Did you end up opening the belt? Maybe you can sell it and get your money back on it?
@coryn5487 after going after them on twitter and putting these videos up, I finally got a box. It might have a belt in it, ot might be bricks. IDK at this point. I always wanted to do an unboxing video but it's been almost a year now 😄
I hear ya. 😂😂. Don’t let them win though, if you can get your money back or more, do it and be done with them.
Don't use moc belts people. I ordered a belt April 2020 and still no belt. Shifty communication and lack of respect
That's what kills me is the total disrespect. Like I get it if things are rough but don't be an add hole about it. That's why I made the videos
Just got an economy aew title belt. Beautiful and heavy. But some of the gems already coming off. Beautiful belt but sad to see it.
Still haven't opened my box. I'm not even sure the aew belt is in there. Thankfully my official replica is still in great condition
Same B.S. with him. He told me my belt was going to be shipped at the end of last week. Now he won't respond to my emails or messages on Facebook.
Yeah he does this all the time with other people. He'll, he's doing this with people in the comments down below right now.
I'm in your boat
Yup same here bro I ordered mine back in 12/6/20. Last time I heard from them was it's ready. 2 months ago and now won't even answer me back if it was shipped or an update. Emailed him, Facebook messaged him nothing.
Yup wouldn't you know it. Same bullshit here. Now its another "delay". Gotta be the most unprofessional business I've ever heard of. I just want my damn belt. My birthday is next week and I have tix to AEW in April. Starting to look hopeless.
@@jchesh7617 yup I ordered a N.W.A. United States championship belt 12/6/20. Heard everything from it's going ship soon bro to will send you the shipping info Saturday bro, to it's ready bro to oh my partner took my money. Then got a message that will soon be sending you your AEW belt that you ordered and had to tell him again I didn't order that it was N.W.A. United States championship belt. Now nothing.
@@johnmartinez9656 he's a grifter. I don't deny that the finished products look gorgeous but, you're most likely never gonna get it. Gonna make a lot of noise about this. I know a lot of people in the wrestling business and I will spread the word about MOC Belts because @Fahad ikram is an unprofessional joke.
Yup, and all we really want is legit communication of when the belts are going out. If there is a delay or something happens communicate to the buyers to let them know. Don't keep them in the dark or continue to lie to them.
@@jchesh7617 your payment have been struck. Take refunds from bank and order again
It's been a year and I haven't received my belt
Keep on him, get loud in social media. Even if he tried to drown you out, it means he's sweating and trying to get on top in search feeds.
I went through the exact same thing (see my video). I strongly suggest you open that box and see what he actually sent you before calling him "not a scammer". I could never do business with him again. The Facebook group (Moc Belts sucks) only had 10 members when I joined. Now it's grown A LOT. That says something.
Yeah after the noise I saw him pull throughout this year makes me regret not saying worse things about him. I really should open that box and see what he sent.
Ordered mine in November and got my bank involved to see if they can get my payment back
Were they able to get the money back?
I'm curious to know as well. Like I said in the video, if anyone used PayPal, you have 6 months to ask for a refund they're aware of MocBelts and his numerous accounts.
I never got my money back. I threatened legal action, even threatened reporting them to the authorities over in Pakistan, but no response. Fahad is a fucking thief and he'll get his eventually.
I'm starting to feel that I lost my money. I order for him and he has stopped answering my messages.
Stay on them. Go to Twitter and reach out to them. Put them on blast if need be.
I have an order #1281 from Nov 2020, he told me the same bullshit to me... When I showed him my receipt, crickets...... I pray this dude threatens me
Oh yeah, my order was from the exact same time. Keep on him, DM him and email him. Don't let up, either.
always nothing a scammer how can he sleeps
Anonymity is great for that. If they were public figures with their faces known this wouldn't have gotten as far as it did.
Bro you shouldn't complain so much. He knows what he is doing. He just wants you to place the order to get your money. He only needs to pump out XX of belts per month but not be serious about actually delivering on every order on time. He propagates himself as a massive operation but he is a one man show and leeches off customers who think he has a reputable name in the belt making industry. You should have just cancelled your credit card order and be done with it rather than a rant which he loves.
Lmao okay homie. I'll take it into consideration, even though this worked and I got my belt since my first video and this video was effective.
I've said it a million times. If Ikram and Ahmed wanna play stupid, them the consumer needs to get loud and angry.
I order My belt May 25 of 2020 it is now June of 2022 I still haven’t got my custom made belt I even messaged him and said hey you got a perfect belt ready to ship just send me one of those he said OK it will take two days that was last Wednesday and here it is now six days later and he has not shipped it he has not even messaged me so when I messaged him again he said two more days and then I’ll ship had the nerve to tell me he wants me to pay him compensation because the belt that he supposed to be shipping me is $90 more
Wow, what the hell. Just blow his spot up on twitter. Get loud and angry. He made a promise to 5 people on a FB group I'm in last week and told three of them they'd be getting their stuff shipped.
Can
You
Guess
What
Happened?!
Nothing. Because this is what he does all the time now.
Brother we discussed the issue and confident you understand the situation we face with evidence
The issue is irrelevant to the grief you yourself caused to others. If what you say happened then yes that sucks but to flat out ignore the same people that were put in a situation you let happen is inexcusable.
DO NOT BUY FROM Fahad/MOC Belts! Been waiting over 2 yrs for my AEW belt. Every 2 weeks it's either a new excuse or I just get ignored.
Me too. 2 years for my IC belt. Would not recommend buying from MocBelts. Still haven't received my belt, and he's stopped responding to my messages. Really stupid business, because I was planning on buying at least 2 or 3 more.. and he screwed me on the first belt. His loss. Saving me a lot of headache on my next purchases from a different belt maker