Your explanation reminds me of a very "Destreza"-like approach. Prioritizing safety above all, assuming equality between opponents, and demonstrating principles using pure irrefutable geometric proofs.
Glad you enjoyed the video. On my Patreon page www.patreon.com/christopherhein you can support my work, giving me the ability to buy better equipment and have more time to make some of the corrections you suggested. Thanks for your considering support!
Yes I have, the thing is- many historical European arts have basically the same techniques, Kotegaeshi, Nikkyo, Rokyo, Gokyo, Ikkyo, even Sankyo can all be found in historical European arts- so it doesn't look much different.
@@ChuShinTani Fascinating! The natural follow up question for me being, is Armored sparring with Katana Simulators something that you may incorporate into your Aikido school? Is this a possibility for a future video?
We train with shinai you can see a bit of in in the Sunday budo training video. I also have a video from about ten years back on UA-cam of is doing bokken sparring. I've been shifting my weapon curriculum around for a few years, I've been thinking of putting on my Patreon page in the near future.
@@ChuShinTani ua-cam.com/video/76GCudXcFq0/v-deo.html To anyone following this thread, the above is the link for the Bokken Sparring mentioned above. Fantastic!!! Before finding your Channel, I had always seen the angles, wrist control/locks, and distances that Aikido plays in as Sword oriented. Seeing them put together like this was beautiful!!! OSS!
In my opinion there really arent any aikido Hand2hand striking techniques- they are just weapon techniques that are done with out a weapon in you hand- making them much less effective than their original intended purpose.
@@ChuShinTani yes I watched that video and somewhat agree in regards to any weapon being an extension of the arm, however neck chops and thrusting straight punches are legit. I am currently researching how to set up the hand2hand aspect of aikido and I am looking at the curriculum of aikido and trying to "crack the code" how to purely use aikido against any style. So currently I am piecing together the strikes and footwork and this aspect of angles from swordfighting is very vital upon atemi with irimi and similar to many striking arts even boxing.
Best of luck to you. This is what I started off trying to do, but the more I learned the more I realized that it was less productive to work on unarmed Aikido than it was to work on it as armed.
@@ChuShinTani thanks, I know and I respect that journey you made and agree with a lot of your conclusions. But I wonder what was your strategy of aikido going in? When you say aikido working better against armed I suppose you mean in regards with principles of disarming or freeing one's weapon hand and such? Since I'm not an aikidoka and probably the martial art I know the least of, I would really appreciate it if you could display the strikes and grips and gi grips (like mune dori and such) there is in the aikido curriculum. I think there's a lot to uncover from aikido to make it function. I am staying tuned until the next one Chris, hope to see more
There is a bit of misconception here. If I make an action you do not get to make an action. It is already over. I have the initiative. I am first. Your reaction is late. Probably wrong. Source: all fencing styles.
In sport fencing that is the "rule of priority", whoever starts their attack first is the only person that can score a point. That rule was made because of the "action for action" phenomenon I'm explaining here. In sport fencing there are always lots of doubles (both people hitting at the same time)- because of the "action for action" phenomenon I'm explaining. The "rule of priority" is made so the judge can determine who "should" get the point. In an actual sword engagement, both get injured. If you're thinking about an actual sword fight you should worry about "action for action" if you're sport fencing you should worry about the "rule of priority".
No, I don't know that I have an approach to "Japanese swordsmanship", just swordsmanship. But to directly answer your question, I don't teach sabre to my Aikido classes.
I believe someone else linked to it in the comments below- ua-cam.com/video/76GCudXcFq0/v-deo.html There are also some live shinai sparring clips sprinkled throughout several of my other live videos.
@@ChuShinTani thanks so much really enjoy the video great to see sparing with Bokken quite interesting how much it ends in standing grappling that no one wants to go to the ground with because there are 2 3 ft razor blade being held. I have found Shinai sparing can be a bit to fast 2 reasons the weapon is light and there is less fear as when hit by a bokken you know about it. Not seen you Shinai sparing that being said?
@@ChuShinTani thanks for you kindness to sharing this with me. I still think Shinai changes things quite a bit would love to know your thoughts on the tools/ weapons use in sparing? I.e bokken v.s Shinai as a substitute for katana? Though any thing else to on the matter. Big respect for want you are doing for Aikido think its poignant.
Excellent points! 3:52 the idea of being ready for the opponents return shot, even after receiving a life-ending cut, is what much of kendo is sadly missing today imo.
As said zanshin (the whole concept not just the motion) are basically about that, and in kata all that is deeply studied But I think you miss the main point, kendo is not about learning how to beat Miyamoto Musashi or prevail in Sekigahara battle, otherwise there still been jujitsu projections, Atemi, upward and horizontal cuts, trusts to the guts and face, Kesagiri cut on the shoulders and so on. In my opinion Kendo evolved as a tool for developing character through relationship
That mustache is legendary!
I think so too! It's a good look on him!
Again this is a great presentation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Man, your videos are just sooo great. I really want to try Aikido
I was trying to explain this to my friends... you made it easy and fast.
Your explanation reminds me of a very "Destreza"-like approach. Prioritizing safety above all, assuming equality between opponents, and demonstrating principles using pure irrefutable geometric proofs.
Very thorough explanation of the mathematics of sword combat. Great video.
Shout out to Josh.😁👍🏾
Thank you kindly!
Will Do!
Now you're speaking my language. Tachi No Kata is my favorite part of Aiki.
perfect. indeed sum up in a very clear way. a gold. thanks
Nice of you to say. Glad you enjoyed it!
Can you up the mic a bit. The talking segments are very low volume compared to the jazz saxophone coming after :D.
This.
Sorry about that, I'm still trying to get on top of my sound issues!
Just tie the mic on those beard brother
I’ve done karate 🥋 but swordsmanship ⚔️ is next on my list
Good work , thank you but please improve your very quiet mic. And do not feel the need to use distracting filters and film effects.
Glad you enjoyed the video. On my Patreon page www.patreon.com/christopherhein you can support my work, giving me the ability to buy better equipment and have more time to make some of the corrections you suggested. Thanks for your considering support!
Chris, did you incorporate your Aikido into HEMA sparring? A video of you HEMA sparring, pulling off some disarms would be amazing! Great video!
Yes I have, the thing is- many historical European arts have basically the same techniques, Kotegaeshi, Nikkyo, Rokyo, Gokyo, Ikkyo, even Sankyo can all be found in historical European arts- so it doesn't look much different.
@@ChuShinTani Fascinating! The natural follow up question for me being, is Armored sparring with Katana Simulators something that you may incorporate into your Aikido school? Is this a possibility for a future video?
We train with shinai you can see a bit of in in the Sunday budo training video. I also have a video from about ten years back on UA-cam of is doing bokken sparring. I've been shifting my weapon curriculum around for a few years, I've been thinking of putting on my Patreon page in the near future.
@@ChuShinTani The JSA practitioners out here love this sort of stuff! Gimme more! :D
@@ChuShinTani
ua-cam.com/video/76GCudXcFq0/v-deo.html
To anyone following this thread, the above is the link for the Bokken Sparring mentioned above. Fantastic!!! Before finding your Channel, I had always seen the angles, wrist control/locks, and distances that Aikido plays in as Sword oriented. Seeing them put together like this was beautiful!!! OSS!
These basics of angle and attack are they applied to the aikido hand2hand striking as well? Would be very effective and similar aspect
In my opinion there really arent any aikido Hand2hand striking techniques- they are just weapon techniques that are done with out a weapon in you hand- making them much less effective than their original intended purpose.
@@ChuShinTani yes I watched that video and somewhat agree in regards to any weapon being an extension of the arm, however neck chops and thrusting straight punches are legit. I am currently researching how to set up the hand2hand aspect of aikido and I am looking at the curriculum of aikido and trying to "crack the code" how to purely use aikido against any style. So currently I am piecing together the strikes and footwork and this aspect of angles from swordfighting is very vital upon atemi with irimi and similar to many striking arts even boxing.
Best of luck to you. This is what I started off trying to do, but the more I learned the more I realized that it was less productive to work on unarmed Aikido than it was to work on it as armed.
@@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh You might wanna seek a teacher from Tenshin Ryu Budo (Seagal student lineage). Could expand horizons on the concepts you seek.
@@ChuShinTani thanks, I know and I respect that journey you made and agree with a lot of your conclusions. But I wonder what was your strategy of aikido going in?
When you say aikido working better against armed I suppose you mean in regards with principles of disarming or freeing one's weapon hand and such?
Since I'm not an aikidoka and probably the martial art I know the least of, I would really appreciate it if you could display the strikes and grips and gi grips (like mune dori and such) there is in the aikido curriculum. I think there's a lot to uncover from aikido to make it function.
I am staying tuned until the next one Chris, hope to see more
There is a bit of misconception here.
If I make an action you do not get to make an action.
It is already over.
I have the initiative.
I am first.
Your reaction is late.
Probably wrong.
Source: all fencing styles.
In sport fencing that is the "rule of priority", whoever starts their attack first is the only person that can score a point. That rule was made because of the "action for action" phenomenon I'm explaining here. In sport fencing there are always lots of doubles (both people hitting at the same time)- because of the "action for action" phenomenon I'm explaining. The "rule of priority" is made so the judge can determine who "should" get the point. In an actual sword engagement, both get injured. If you're thinking about an actual sword fight you should worry about "action for action" if you're sport fencing you should worry about the "rule of priority".
I'm curious if you have any sword experience besides Aikiken or Kendo?
1.33, Liechtenauer, Hutton sabre, and I read a fair amount about historical swordsmanship.
@@ChuShinTani so what is your approach yo Japanese swordmanship? Is it sabre?
No, I don't know that I have an approach to "Japanese swordsmanship", just swordsmanship. But to directly answer your question, I don't teach sabre to my Aikido classes.
Have you got any live sword (bokken) sparing video would love to watch them?
I believe someone else linked to it in the comments below- ua-cam.com/video/76GCudXcFq0/v-deo.html There are also some live shinai sparring clips sprinkled throughout several of my other live videos.
@@ChuShinTani thanks so much really enjoy the video great to see sparing with Bokken quite interesting how much it ends in standing grappling that no one wants to go to the ground with because there are 2 3 ft razor blade being held.
I have found Shinai sparing can be a bit to fast 2 reasons the weapon is light and there is less fear as when hit by a bokken you know about it.
Not seen you Shinai sparing that being said?
ua-cam.com/video/nRjC1woeCmc/v-deo.html there are a few clips here
@@ChuShinTani thanks for you kindness to sharing this with me.
I still think Shinai changes things quite a bit would love to know your thoughts on the tools/ weapons use in sparing?
I.e bokken v.s Shinai as a substitute for katana?
Though any thing else to on the matter.
Big respect for want you are doing for Aikido think its poignant.
Excellent points! 3:52 the idea of being ready for the opponents return shot, even after receiving a life-ending cut, is what much of kendo is sadly missing today imo.
That's what zanshin is for, there is no ippon unless you demonstrate awareness of incomming attacks, and make distance.
As said zanshin (the whole concept not just the motion) are basically about that, and in kata all that is deeply studied
But I think you miss the main point, kendo is not about learning how to beat Miyamoto Musashi or prevail in Sekigahara battle, otherwise there still been jujitsu projections, Atemi, upward and horizontal cuts, trusts to the guts and face, Kesagiri cut on the shoulders and so on.
In my opinion Kendo evolved as a tool for developing character through relationship
imagine two fighters who defend themselfs rather before attacking... holster theýre swords and go drink a beer together