yeah honestly you're right. I mean the point seige is at right now doesn't even feel real. Literaly for a game under the name of Tom Clancy, they should have it feel like Rainbow Six. Everything now is too cartoonish.
@@BronzFor Yeah, I just hope somehow the game is brought to a better point. They seemed to be on the right track for Deimos hopefully in the future his idea is brought more to life for Rainbow to be more serious.
I agree. You and Deimos are absolutely right about Rainbow Six Siege's new and tone deaf direction. And I also wanted Maverick to be explored and have a badass, super tactical Delta Force skin. Every game wants to be Fortnite nowadays.
I started playing siege around blood orchid. I quit playing around junior year of high school (about the time Amaru came out) I came back to the game when they added Deimos and holy hell this is not the same game. Operation chimera and Para Bellum was peak imo
The Article V mission was one of the coolest things ever. I thought we would see an extension of that. And honestly, with Siege's mechanics...they could've easily done a more fancy Call of Duty style campaign (those games, btw, sell billions) but with co-op. Just sell it as $20 DLC or "story campaign" that you get skins and R6 credits if you buy it. People would buy it, especially if you release it with co-op PvE in mind. Shame that modern Ubisoft is run by greedy corporate hacks and ideologically driven buffoons. You can keep the playful atmosphere for multiplayer Siege. But make sure there's constant content that isn't just that, either. Then, I'd want to hear dialogue that sounds like actual people who work LEO/Military/Agency/etc talk like....at least, in the context of a video game/movie scene. Stuff like.... Ash: SOCOM just put together a targeting package on 'xyz' Narco cell leader and we're picking it up. Need you to get your head straight. Thermite: Yes ma'am...but why exactly do they want us on this specific op? This requires Special Reconnaissance and Infiltration methods, deep into the Venezuelan jungle. Why not send the Ghosts instead? Ash: The Ghosts are preoccupied with the South Pacific right now. That means we're up for this one. Besides, several of our members already have specializations in Recon, HUMINT, and Infiltration. And that's exactly what the mission calls for. Smoke: Heh heh. That's the thing about Team Rainbow. We have every skillset and capability. Caviera: Come on now, Jordan? You getting cold feet? You can't handle a little hide and seek? Thermite: Negative. I'm looking forward to it. Just send me the rest of the details and I'll get the rest of the crew up to speed. Ash: Good. That's what I like to hear. Dismissed.
The thing that kept me coming back to the game was just recruit, even after the rework he was still decently fun. Since the "Remaster" I just can't wrap my head arround how Ubi is this lazy, They just basically removed the fun and gave us recycled Rainbow Six Mobile concepts that suck, I would have been more than happy if he just stayed the same but allowed us to change attachments but no.
I love your opinion. There’s just something about old siege that really gives it the dark and gritty nature. You’re talking about a game that dealt with a team of operators who went out to kill terrorists just like the original games. The multiplayer was great too, and it was thanks to the literal design of the game, game modes, and creative ops. Playing this before I quit playing full time was probably the best years of my life regardless of the rage it brought me back then. Now, It isn’t even about that anymore, it’s just a joke of a multiplayer full of Gen zs who try to flex money and shit, along with a toxic player base. It became hysterical when it appealed to woke propaganda and censorship, which ruined the lore. If Ubi is out of the picture or at least get rid of weak ass propaganda, maybe Siege can be great again.
that "something".... Cant even guess what... Maybe the faceless, empty terrorist strawmen and overly dark maps that scream "im gritty and dark please love me we totally didnt do that because it was popular at the time"
Fortnite ruined the FPS/Military shooter genre, games are bright and goofy and colorful nowadays because game devs realized they can make more money by making these games more kid-friendly. The devs were trying to find a way to make the most money with minimal effort and Fortnite gave them the key.
@@AmelpsXett Take a look at most of the big FPS games, Battlefield and especially COD are going through this. They didn't just feel like doing this for no reason
To be honest I know they kept Tom Clancy's name on Rainbow Six Siege out of respect when he passed away, and any newer titles that are released. But I genuinely feel that they should remove his name from Rainbow Six Siege because I'm pretty sure that's what he would want, Tom Clancy is probably rolling in his grave right now if he could see what his game has become...
@@BronzFor Agreed. R6 went from being a hyper realistic tactical FPS shooter that was really gritty, to something that we have today that's really colorful and flashy that can be hard on the eyes sometimes...
Its sad when devs are too scared to make something dark and grim all of money yet "oh no lets not let lil timmy play an bad game" really i gown up in the 2000s to now and i hate it how everything is now is like how they didn't die just got ko
your right honestly, I would still play this game over fortnite, and if they could find a way to get cheaters out of rainbow six siege I think more people would play ranked, and it would be a lot more fun.
Not to mention Ela and D*kkaebi who are guilty of wearing gimp suit on their default skins and FOR WHATEVER REASON the world just looks away from D*kkaebi elite like it’s nothing when you can clearly see the horrendous design and animation I would rather to get rapped in the prison shower over being caught owning the skin
You are right i hate this new season its just not right somehow , and for real robots ? Greek operator couldve been so good. I agree i come back for the game itself but not for the story or feeling of tactics its an arcade shooter.
Greek here, absolutely hate that we got a wheel chair as an operator… We could have gotten someone from EKAM or Vatraxi but we got this shit. Horrible.
@@AmelpsXettif they get crippled they are either placed somewhere else outside the field or they are simply dismissed. It's that simple Gouging that ubisoft dick isn't gonna save the ridiculous changes
bro doc was shot in the head by Deimos and lived (plot armor) but in the lore only rook armor was upgraded to protect against Deimos revolver shots anyways siege lore went downhill when harry did the SI esports thing in the lore 💀💀💀. The lore was getting good up to that point (like nighthaven introduction). I’m glad the sisters in arms cinematic didn’t include the SI or anything like that but that cutscene made me wish that the conflicts would happen due to some irl military operation gone wrong where rainbow and nighthaven was working together Also an airstrike could kill all the operators in the stadium maps where the operators compete 💀💀💀💀💀💀(since it is known to the public)
That sisters in arms video was awesome I have to admit but, that was a diamond in a lot of rough stupid lore. I never thought of the air strike angle lol you have a good point there
@@its_seraph agreed, I’ll never understand it. Just make a good game! If they want to make a dumb work game make a new one, don’t ruin a good game for an agenda
Bro you can’t be serious they ruined the game with shitty balance patches saying going woke ruined them is just wrong, they ruined the game by forcing players to play how they wanted as in slow and methodical but to achieve it they are actively punishing aggressive players
1:32 A machine defeated the 2014 Dallas mass shoeter. How is it a “goofy concept” when law enforcers today still use machines to help save lives? Some departments are starting to use Boston Dynamic robot dogs recently. “I Did A Thing” attached a firearm on that dog. Even their Atlas is the closest thing to a real life Skopos.
@@BronzFor ehhh fair enough. But still, it could be real if enough people want to make it happen someday in the distant future. Even Deimos’s deathmarker was inspired by U.S. military’ hummingbird drone. The list goes on.
Deimos didnt do any meta commentary. You misunderstood the story completely and bruh lmao how are robots dumb. Boston dynamics ia around also old siege was worse bye
The Boston dynamics robots are completely fake btw. That’s a little misleading, they can stand up on their own, but every action you see them take is hand controlled and coded by people ahead of time.
yeah honestly you're right. I mean the point seige is at right now doesn't even feel real. Literaly for a game under the name of Tom Clancy, they should have it feel like Rainbow Six. Everything now is too cartoonish.
For sure. Kinda sad where the devs took the game. Maybe if Ubi gets bought out we can start to see it move back in the right direction
@@BronzFor Yeah, I just hope somehow the game is brought to a better point. They seemed to be on the right track for Deimos hopefully in the future his idea is brought more to life for Rainbow to be more serious.
I agree. You and Deimos are absolutely right about Rainbow Six Siege's new and tone deaf direction. And I also wanted Maverick to be explored and have a badass, super tactical Delta Force skin. Every game wants to be Fortnite nowadays.
Thanks 🙏
rainbow six vegas 2 is by far what Deimos is talking about.
no it wasnt
To be frank, ever since Chimera it was hard to take the game seriously.
That’s what I’m sayin! Deimos honestly. Smart valid character 😂
@@RUGER5264 we need more Deimos’s in the game
I started playing siege around blood orchid. I quit playing around junior year of high school (about the time Amaru came out) I came back to the game when they added Deimos and holy hell this is not the same game. Operation chimera and Para Bellum was peak imo
Para Bellum was a good one
The Article V mission was one of the coolest things ever. I thought we would see an extension of that.
And honestly, with Siege's mechanics...they could've easily done a more fancy Call of Duty style campaign (those games, btw, sell billions) but with co-op. Just sell it as $20 DLC or "story campaign" that you get skins and R6 credits if you buy it. People would buy it, especially if you release it with co-op PvE in mind.
Shame that modern Ubisoft is run by greedy corporate hacks and ideologically driven buffoons.
You can keep the playful atmosphere for multiplayer Siege. But make sure there's constant content that isn't just that, either. Then, I'd want to hear dialogue that sounds like actual people who work LEO/Military/Agency/etc talk like....at least, in the context of a video game/movie scene.
Stuff like....
Ash: SOCOM just put together a targeting package on 'xyz' Narco cell leader and we're picking it up. Need you to get your head straight.
Thermite: Yes ma'am...but why exactly do they want us on this specific op? This requires Special Reconnaissance and Infiltration methods, deep into the Venezuelan jungle. Why not send the Ghosts instead?
Ash: The Ghosts are preoccupied with the South Pacific right now. That means we're up for this one. Besides, several of our members already have specializations in Recon, HUMINT, and Infiltration. And that's exactly what the mission calls for.
Smoke: Heh heh. That's the thing about Team Rainbow. We have every skillset and capability.
Caviera: Come on now, Jordan? You getting cold feet? You can't handle a little hide and seek?
Thermite: Negative. I'm looking forward to it. Just send me the rest of the details and I'll get the rest of the crew up to speed.
Ash: Good. That's what I like to hear. Dismissed.
Ranked 2.0 is the worst, just why should I a gold player have to face off against diamonds and champs while having silvers in my team
The thing that kept me coming back to the game was just recruit, even after the rework he was still decently fun.
Since the "Remaster" I just can't wrap my head arround how Ubi is this lazy, They just basically removed the fun and gave us recycled Rainbow Six Mobile concepts that suck, I would have been more than happy if he just stayed the same but allowed us to change attachments but no.
perfectly said
I love your opinion. There’s just something about old siege that really gives it the dark and gritty nature. You’re talking about a game that dealt with a team of operators who went out to kill terrorists just like the original games. The multiplayer was great too, and it was thanks to the literal design of the game, game modes, and creative ops. Playing this before I quit playing full time was probably the best years of my life regardless of the rage it brought me back then. Now, It isn’t even about that anymore, it’s just a joke of a multiplayer full of Gen zs who try to flex money and shit, along with a toxic player base. It became hysterical when it appealed to woke propaganda and censorship, which ruined the lore. If Ubi is out of the picture or at least get rid of weak ass propaganda, maybe Siege can be great again.
Love this comment you nailed it.
that "something".... Cant even guess what... Maybe the faceless, empty terrorist strawmen and overly dark maps that scream "im gritty and dark please love me we totally didnt do that because it was popular at the time"
@@AmelpsXett wow bro, North Korean much? You gotta be a smartass over somebody liking something what a bum 😂
Fortnite ruined the FPS/Military shooter genre, games are bright and goofy and colorful nowadays because game devs realized they can make more money by making these games more kid-friendly. The devs were trying to find a way to make the most money with minimal effort and Fortnite gave them the key.
@@Prizrak131 good point
completely unrelated to siege
@@AmelpsXett Take a look at most of the big FPS games, Battlefield and especially COD are going through this. They didn't just feel like doing this for no reason
@@Prizrak131 they were also "dark and gritty" because it was trendy at the time, same as siege
They should bury siege and give us R6 patriots.
To be honest I know they kept Tom Clancy's name on Rainbow Six Siege out of respect when he passed away, and any newer titles that are released. But I genuinely feel that they should remove his name from Rainbow Six Siege because I'm pretty sure that's what he would want, Tom Clancy is probably rolling in his grave right now if he could see what his game has become...
@@dakotaterry5451 year 1-6 worthy on having his name, after that….not so much
you dont even know who tom clancy is and never read his books
@@AmelpsXett
Dog what are you talking about?
@@BronzFor
Agreed. R6 went from being a hyper realistic tactical FPS shooter that was really gritty, to something that we have today that's really colorful and flashy that can be hard on the eyes sometimes...
Its sad when devs are too scared to make something dark and grim all of money yet "oh no lets not let lil timmy play an bad game" really i gown up in the 2000s to now and i hate it how everything is now is like how they didn't die just got ko
your right honestly, I would still play this game over fortnite, and if they could find a way to get cheaters out of rainbow six siege I think more people would play ranked, and it would be a lot more fun.
@@WB_B love the game play, hate most of the skins and lore
Fr, why is the new operator in a goddamn wheelchair...
@@timovdbroek inclusion and representation lol Ubi falling firmly on that woke sword 🗡️
Yo wtf is this 😭😭😭 Not everyone in the world is the same this comment is so childish grow up
@@AlexCartledge huh?
@@AlexCartledgei swear i just stumbled upon some 'grrr woke mob!' side of the community that i never even heard of
@@AYONEEKO fr tho 🤣
Gotta love how the actual gameplay barely matches the story at all
Not to mention Ela and D*kkaebi who are guilty of wearing gimp suit on their default skins and FOR WHATEVER REASON the world just looks away from D*kkaebi elite like it’s nothing when you can clearly see the horrendous design and animation
I would rather to get rapped in the prison shower over being caught owning the skin
Lol
you literally could wear female gimp suits in vegas 2 lmao
i cant stop laughing at these fake fans
@@AmelpsXett lmao
You are right i hate this new season its just not right somehow , and for real robots ? Greek operator couldve been so good. I agree i come back for the game itself but not for the story or feeling of tactics its an arcade shooter.
Greek here, absolutely hate that we got a wheel chair as an operator…
We could have gotten someone from EKAM or Vatraxi but we got this shit.
Horrible.
its a tactical shooter. Its not tactical only to noobs
@@sykrotima9528 Skopos is already EKAM
and i dunno, i know its hard to understand, but irl combatants get crippled sometimes. Not a biggie you know
@@AmelpsXettif they get crippled they are either placed somewhere else outside the field or they are simply dismissed. It's that simple
Gouging that ubisoft dick isn't gonna save the ridiculous changes
bro doc was shot in the head by Deimos and lived (plot armor) but in the lore only rook armor was upgraded to protect against Deimos revolver shots
anyways siege lore went downhill when harry did the SI esports thing in the lore 💀💀💀. The lore was getting good up to that point (like nighthaven introduction). I’m glad the sisters in arms cinematic didn’t include the SI or anything like that but that cutscene made me wish that the conflicts would happen due to some irl military operation gone wrong where rainbow and nighthaven was working together
Also an airstrike could kill all the operators in the stadium maps where the operators compete 💀💀💀💀💀💀(since it is known to the public)
That sisters in arms video was awesome I have to admit but, that was a diamond in a lot of rough stupid lore.
I never thought of the air strike angle lol you have a good point there
@@BronzForyea the cinematic would be a perfect fit for a good lore ngl,
bro even ground forces could attack the stadium, not just air strikes 💀💀💀
@@Amifai that would have been a good way to end the si and start a better story arc
Typical Ubisoft go woke go broke
Adding woke characters dose not change anything but if you go out of your way to make everything woke it can do that
Ubisoft paying the price for going woke...
@@its_seraph agreed, I’ll never understand it. Just make a good game!
If they want to make a dumb work game make a new one, don’t ruin a good game for an agenda
Bro you can’t be serious they ruined the game with shitty balance patches saying going woke ruined them is just wrong, they ruined the game by forcing players to play how they wanted as in slow and methodical but to achieve it they are actively punishing aggressive players
@@scaryfeministlady371 I agree they focus too much on nerfing ops into the ground instead of having fun operators
@@scaryfeministlady371 nice ragebait account, kinda low effort tho
@@its_seraphunfortunately for you this is my main account 😢
Ok. You can have the rest but i adore the campy stupid out of pocket skins and i crave more
I’m sure you’ll get more because the game has lost its identity.
1:32 A machine defeated the 2014 Dallas mass shoeter. How is it a “goofy concept” when law enforcers today still use machines to help save lives?
Some departments are starting to use Boston Dynamic robot dogs recently. “I Did A Thing” attached a firearm on that dog. Even their Atlas is the closest thing to a real life Skopos.
@@chalexen2862 closest to but not nearly to the point of performing like an actual tier one operator. That shit is still soo far away.
@@chalexen2862 that machine was more akin to a Flores drone
@@BronzFor ehhh fair enough. But still, it could be real if enough people want to make it happen someday in the distant future. Even Deimos’s deathmarker was inspired by U.S. military’ hummingbird drone. The list goes on.
0:13 ace with pajamas is not very tom Clancy
Exactly lol
Deimos didnt do any meta commentary. You misunderstood the story completely
and bruh lmao how are robots dumb. Boston dynamics ia around
also old siege was worse bye
Boston dynamics robots aren’t as skilled as real tier one operators bye
@@BronzFor controlled robots can't be "skilled" on their own like wtf r u yapping lmao bye
@@AmelpsXett they don’t have the dexterity or agility of a real person bye
@@BronzFor you dont need it when you're on support lol bye
The Boston dynamics robots are completely fake btw.
That’s a little misleading, they can stand up on their own, but every action you see them take is hand controlled and coded by people ahead of time.
Hearing they remove t3rr0r!st hunt made me want a refund!
It was so fun learning out the operators PVE
@@beeshoney899 I miss t-hunt