Much appreciated; Fraser was a natural raconteur and had more experience of the antiquated British prison system than almost any man of his era as such this is a valuable oral history.
exactly he went thru a lot of punishment like the birch and the cat 9 tails ect . human rights abuse before we had the EU court. I'm sure now we out of EU British justice will go back to the dark ages
you forgot to mention why he was so experienced in the british prisons system,could it be he was a total idiot who was the most failed criminal in england as he spent most of his criminal life banged up.
I won't slag him off but i don't think he did as much as people make out, i mean he lived till he was 91, he didn't go away till he was 18, he spent 42 years inside, that's 60 years gone & he didn't do anything from the age of 65 or even earlier, untill he passed away, thats another 26 years gone. That leaves 5 years at the most !
Frazer in his day was dark and up for anything.... he’s harder than anyone here... so quick to judge. Courtney, reading etc call him what they do because he was 70 when they met him.... don’t judge him as soft you fools. He was a torturer
Mate he was No bully he was a coward- notorious for stabbing you in the back/Leg and running off, not to mention he was was 5’4 a very very small man- never known to fist fight as he didn’t have the courage.
It's a very strange thing, there are lots of videos of Fraser talking about the Krays, the train robbers, Freddie Foreman and many other people. Oddly enough there are no videos of those people talking about Fraser, why is that I wonder?
A serious man he was proper tool merchant but thats what came in handy and his loyalty that he had made him very useful. He seems to have reformed himself the way he talks he actually seems a gentleman. But an evil 😈 heartless emotionless man really, well he was here he seems to relize his ways definitely a psychopath. Very interesting man
I met Frank once on the train.........I asked for his ticket and he was alright........Tony Lambrianou was with him...................Frank was going on Blankety Blank..........and Tony was appearing on Kilroy Silk......nice blokes.............better than the normal punters..........
Regardless of what he was/did outside of prison, how he chose to do all those years inside was something that few men could tolerate or survive. Today’s prison life and when he was locked up are completely different and the draconian system back then was brutal.
Prison conditions now are luxury compared to the 1950s and before,as prisoners even for trivial offences were fed just bread and water.The birch punishment was used that caused unbearable pain.Also the sentences were generally much longer.
The thing that obviously leaps to mind for me having watched THIS: Do NOT commit serious crime and you will not end up behind the door, and 'living' a torturous and horrific 'life.' There is fuck all glamour in this story. End-fucking-of.
he never attacked nowhere near the amount of screws he claimed, he allways carried a weapon on the outside aswell, he wasn't good with his hands like he says, he had to use a weapon, not a tough man at all
Thanks for this. It answered a question I had about why he was good when they threatened him in the psyche prison. What was 'the shitter', maybe Dysentery? It was also just good in general, to learn how people can be - it's a bit of a wake up call, life was harder than most people thought ..
Both lenny McLean and Charles Bronson who were both a hand full and both rate him as a man not to mess with so is Albert reading telling the truth so not sure what to believe.
I worked with his son David Fraser about ten years ago we work together for quit a few months proper gentleman always dressed like a gentleman and manners to match old school just like his dad I met him few times nice quit man shows you.don’t get it people like that now.
He was well mannered, and quite a funny charming character by this late stage in his life. He was certainly a violent man but he lived by his own set of principles, he would never hurt women or children or elderly people. I wouldn’t have wanted him coming after me, he was fearless. RIP Mad Frankie
@@darrenfry4695 There are women who make thousands of selling bath water and farts in a jar.. The point being, just because a couple of tools will buy it doesn't mean much.
The biggest pretender of them all. Liked by no one of any relevance in the underworld. He is nothing but a storyteller who was just fortunate to have been around in an era that is glamourised.
He was a baby walking amongst a pack of wolves, on his own he couldn't hunt or hurt anyone, 1 on 1 is fair game but i think pack hunters are just cowards, rot in pieces!
Well it's difficult to say .theres no fair play in mental institutions and prisons ..or in war .its a fallacy. Maybe there is in sport .the staff use weight of numbers . They do nothing on their own .when they executed someone they tied them up .put s good over their head .pierrepoint wasn't a hero .he couldn't hunt anybody down on his own. Nor could the psychiatrist in broadmoor .they're not heroes .they're cowards too .
You probably think all these people working in institutions are brave ..they're in a system .maybe you think that the cops in america who killed the black man by kneeling on his neck are brave .and deserve a medal for doing their job .heroes. I dont know..they have power and guns and are backed up by the government system. They're not brave .they'll probably get away with it .like Fraser said if they killed him in broadmoor .they would have just put natural causes on the death certificate ..when they say they're all heroes its propaganda .they're covered. The judiciary .police and army officers .politicians aren't heroes. They have a position in a hierarchy .the screws and psychiatric nurses aren't heroes .they never tell anyone what they do . On their own they're the biggest screaming cowards . Alive
When the screw was giving the prisoner the cat .the prisoner couldn't see him .so he sisnt know which screw had given it to him .because the screw feared reprisal. That's how much of a hero he was . The magistrate is no hero ..its propaganda..the doctors and psychiatric nurses and prison officers .dont let the prisoners and patients know their names ..in case of reprisals .revenge for their abuse .they're not brave heroes
I went to the doctors surgery a few weeks ago .they locked the doors .in case they got corona virus .they were crapping themselves .they're not brave heroes .shakespearos
@@Scarizza White on white knife crime is just as much an issue in Glasgow, can't deport inequality/poverty, the same social issues rise up no matter the colour of who's filling the shoes.
@@SoundsInstinctive She went up the food chain, his Barrister, local MP, head of the home office, etc, etc, screws have been killing inmates, since Prisons opened, they usually hang ya, then it's passed off as a suicide, difference being, they make the noose and place you in it.
@@Scarizza May be so Chief but I can only go on what I’ve seen in different interviews with other people who knew him or what I might read. So far I’m not convinced tbh.
@@Scarizza Tbh I couldn’t care less either way, was just giving a point of view. Dunno much about Reading tbf apart from the obvious YT uploads. They all say one thing and someone says another and what makes you think that Bronson/ Dali’s word is worth more than anyone else’s?
@@Scarizza I’m not a hater nor a lover of, all pretty nasty individuals. But I’ve not seen or read anything that gives proper legitimacy to him being a hard man like Roy Shaw for example. The most I hear about Frankie is he was a small man who couldn’t have a row but was good at hurting people who were tied to a chair that might make him a ‘legend’ in one sense but not a hard man in the physical violent / fighting scheme of things. And you didn’t answer my question as to why you think that Bronsons word is any more legit than anyone else’s mate?
@@Scarizza Yep, pretty much, and you still haven’t given me any reason to change my mind other than Bronson says he was a hard man which is just another opinion from someone who wasn’t around at that time. I truly do not care either way if I’m right or wrong and I’ve no idea why your in love with the myth of this ‘ legend’ but ...... you keep believing that mate 😉
Please believe me he didnt need tools cause he could have a straightner just with his fists respect to the fraser family uf anyone in contact with his boys mention jeff deadman
@@patterdale4332 5 foot 4 before he got old. Short for an adult male, but Frankie was completely fearless and so dangerous, he’d use any weapon. Shot and stabbed so many people. He was more feared than any of the others. Everyone wanted Frankie on their side. It’s hard for people who have only ever seen him as an old man to understand just how terrified people were of Frank
Albert reading and Courtney are hardly impartial towards Frank, I’m from a mans world like he was.farming culture,hoss men culture and traveler gypsey culture and I can honestly say being a buy is frowned upon so Frank Fraser would no doubt deny totally and utterly he was any kind of bully
Much appreciated; Fraser was a natural raconteur and had more experience of the antiquated British prison system than almost any man of his era as such this is a valuable oral history.
exactly he went thru a lot of punishment like the birch and the cat 9 tails ect . human rights abuse before we had the EU court. I'm sure now we out of EU British justice will go back to the dark ages
you forgot to mention why he was so experienced in the british prisons system,could it be he was a total idiot who was the most failed criminal in england as he spent most of his criminal life banged up.
Bummed this guy in prison once, he loved it
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I won't slag him off but i don't think he did as much as people make out, i mean he lived till he was 91, he didn't go away till he was 18, he spent 42 years inside, that's 60 years gone & he didn't do anything from the age of 65 or even earlier, untill he passed away, thats another 26 years gone.
That leaves 5 years at the most !
For a Bully that enjoyed dishing out assisted punishment makes you wonder just how hard he was
Nothing but a bully, beat people tied up doesn’t make you double hard, Albert reading described him perfectly
Albert reading.......now that’s a hard man...not big but fuck me he would give the bogeyman nightmares
Frazer in his day was dark and up for anything.... he’s harder than anyone here... so quick to judge. Courtney, reading etc call him what they do because he was 70 when they met him.... don’t judge him as soft you fools. He was a torturer
@@charliebowen5071 all the decent old school bunch shun him...he wasn’t liked back then and up till his death...a bully and coward
Mate he was No bully he was a coward- notorious for stabbing you in the back/Leg and running off, not to mention he was was 5’4 a very very small man- never known to fist fight as he didn’t have the courage.
@@charliebowen5071 do was Vlad The Impaler but that didn’t make him hard mate 🤣😉
One of the most sanest people I ever heard speak
It's a very strange thing, there are lots of videos of Fraser talking about the Krays, the train robbers, Freddie Foreman and many other people.
Oddly enough there are no videos of those people talking about Fraser, why is that I wonder?
In regards to the Kray's Fraser's relationship was more with their father, it was only with them when it needed to be.
Toby von Judge talks about Mad Frankie and the Krays in this video ua-cam.com/video/u-SpRJ1P-Jw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LiamGalvin
Frankie was definitely 1 of a kind. Legend he is. Big Respect from the States. 👍🇺🇸🗽🇬🇧👍
@@justonsullivan3807 respect for what exactly you muppet ?
@@frankv9131 😂 tough guy,
@@justonsullivan3807 your mother thinks so mush 😘
@@frankv9131shut up
A serious man he was proper tool merchant but thats what came in handy and his loyalty that he had made him very useful. He seems to have reformed himself the way he talks he actually seems a gentleman. But an evil 😈 heartless emotionless man really, well he was here he seems to relize his ways definitely a psychopath. Very interesting man
I met Frank once on the train.........I asked for his ticket and he was alright........Tony Lambrianou was with him...................Frank was going on Blankety Blank..........and Tony was appearing on Kilroy Silk......nice blokes.............better than the normal punters..........
Mad ? Who exactly did he take down without a weapon or on his own.
Regardless of what he was/did outside of prison, how he chose to do all those years inside was something that few men could tolerate or survive. Today’s prison life and when he was locked up are completely different and the draconian system back then was brutal.
Prison conditions now are luxury compared to the 1950s and before,as prisoners even for trivial offences were fed just bread and water.The birch punishment was used that caused unbearable pain.Also the sentences were generally much longer.
The thing that obviously leaps to mind for me having watched THIS: Do NOT commit serious crime and you will not end up behind the door, and 'living' a torturous and horrific 'life.' There is fuck all glamour in this story. End-fucking-of.
Frankie’s a legend
this man is a ledgend even though hes a bit mad,r.i.p frankie ,great interview.
How was he a legend?
he never attacked nowhere near the amount of screws he claimed, he allways carried a weapon on the outside aswell, he wasn't good with his hands like he says, he had to use a weapon, not a tough man at all
Legend
Thanks for this. It answered a question I had about why he was good when they threatened him in the psyche prison. What was 'the shitter', maybe Dysentery? It was also just good in general, to learn how people can be - it's a bit of a wake up call, life was harder than most people thought ..
the shitter is where you have a shit
Both lenny McLean and Charles Bronson who were both a hand full and both rate him as a man not to mess with so is Albert reading telling the truth so not sure what to believe.
prison governor stamps insaaaain on Frank's record
I worked with his son David Fraser about ten years ago we work together for quit a few months proper gentleman always dressed like a gentleman and manners to match old school just like his dad I met him few times nice quit man shows you.don’t get it people like that now.
Edward Burgess: ICF Bill Gardner ?? ...
Jeff deadman
@Onemoreround500 frank fraser jr and Jeff deadman grew up together now what a film that would be
Tells a great story
Why does everyone in the comments hate this guy? I get he's a criminal but some folks are taking it personally.
I would have never had asked Frank Frasier to ground my pepper for my grilled kippers.
He's so polite for a killer?
Doint forget they where gentlemen proper gentlemen
the only thing frank killed were the cockroaches in his cell
He was well mannered, and quite a funny charming character by this late stage in his life. He was certainly a violent man but he lived by his own set of principles, he would never hurt women or children or elderly people. I wouldn’t have wanted him coming after me, he was fearless. RIP Mad Frankie
A Legend in his own mind.
Well he's sold enough books, wonder how many books about your life would sell.. lol 😂, the title of your book,," hiding behind a screen"
@@darrenfry4695 I dont hide old chap, Just out of interest so has Enid Blyton. Have a lovely day
@@darrenfry4695 There are women who make thousands of selling bath water and farts in a jar.. The point being, just because a couple of tools will buy it doesn't mean much.
you wouldnt say that to his face, slimeball keyboard warrior.
@@darrenfry4695 lol, good one, paul pariser middle name is wimp, his nickname at school was gimp the wimp
He tells a tale about attacking Albert Pierpoint which has been proven to be a complete fabrication
The rude boys of Today would be fucked if the old skool were still about
The biggest pretender of them all. Liked by no one of any relevance in the underworld. He is nothing but a storyteller who was just fortunate to have been around in an era that is glamourised.
He tells story’s different in interviews
whip 😂👍🏼👊🏻
@@farmerfamily6661 franks stories are mostly lies.
I should think so, ( after doing forty years).
his 'mates' dumped him over someones garden wall and left the murder weapon with him. That's how popular he was.
I can imagine him talking before the killing
Give it 10 years it'll be the Chinese triads etc
He was a baby walking amongst a pack of wolves, on his own he couldn't hunt or hurt anyone, 1 on 1 is fair game but i think pack hunters are just cowards, rot in pieces!
Well it's difficult to say .theres no fair play in mental institutions and prisons ..or in war .its a fallacy. Maybe there is in sport .the staff use weight of numbers . They do nothing on their own .when they executed someone they tied them up .put s good over their head .pierrepoint wasn't a hero .he couldn't hunt anybody down on his own. Nor could the psychiatrist in broadmoor .they're not heroes .they're cowards too .
You probably think all these people working in institutions are brave ..they're in a system .maybe you think that the cops in america who killed the black man by kneeling on his neck are brave .and deserve a medal for doing their job .heroes. I dont know..they have power and guns and are backed up by the government system. They're not brave .they'll probably get away with it .like Fraser said if they killed him in broadmoor .they would have just put natural causes on the death certificate ..when they say they're all heroes its propaganda .they're covered. The judiciary .police and army officers .politicians aren't heroes. They have a position in a hierarchy .the screws and psychiatric nurses aren't heroes .they never tell anyone what they do . On their own they're the biggest screaming cowards . Alive
When the screw was giving the prisoner the cat .the prisoner couldn't see him .so he sisnt know which screw had given it to him .because the screw feared reprisal. That's how much of a hero he was . The magistrate is no hero ..its propaganda..the doctors and psychiatric nurses and prison officers .dont let the prisoners and patients know their names ..in case of reprisals .revenge for their abuse .they're not brave heroes
I went to the doctors surgery a few weeks ago .they locked the doors .in case they got corona virus .they were crapping themselves .they're not brave heroes .shakespearos
Need to bring those punishments back for the knife wielding cowards of today.
Didn't work with Fraser.
He was more violent and sadistic exactly because the punishments of the time were so depraves.
@@Scarizza White on white knife crime is just as much an issue in Glasgow, can't deport inequality/poverty, the same social issues rise up no matter the colour of who's filling the shoes.
Totally
How would the rude boys of Today deal with old skool geezers ??
Not many have had it harder than Frank in jail, they broke his legs & would have killed him, if it wasn't for his sister,God bless her.
What did she do to save him?
@@SoundsInstinctive She went up the food chain, his Barrister, local MP, head of the home office, etc, etc, screws have been killing inmates, since Prisons opened, they usually hang ya, then it's passed off as a suicide, difference being, they make the noose and place you in it.
Be lucky stay safe
I'm just sweeping the floor
The scars look more like self harming to me. Dunno how he got the hard man rep?
@@Scarizza I’m sure there are many hard men in the world but Mr Frazier wasn’t one of them imo mate
@@Scarizza May be so Chief but I can only go on what I’ve seen in different interviews with other people who knew him or what I might read.
So far I’m not convinced tbh.
@@Scarizza Tbh I couldn’t care less either way, was just giving a point of view.
Dunno much about Reading tbf apart from the obvious YT uploads. They all say one thing and someone says another and what makes you think that Bronson/ Dali’s word is worth more than anyone else’s?
@@Scarizza I’m not a hater nor a lover of, all pretty nasty individuals. But I’ve not seen or read anything that gives proper legitimacy to him being a hard man like Roy Shaw for example.
The most I hear about Frankie is he was a small man who couldn’t have a row but was good at hurting people who were tied to a chair that might make him a ‘legend’ in one sense but not a hard man in the physical violent / fighting scheme of things.
And you didn’t answer my question as to why you think that Bronsons word is any more legit than anyone else’s mate?
@@Scarizza Yep, pretty much, and you still haven’t given me any reason to change my mind other than Bronson says he was a hard man which is just another opinion from someone who wasn’t around at that time. I truly do not care either way if I’m right or wrong and
I’ve no idea why your in love with the myth of this ‘ legend’ but ...... you keep believing that mate 😉
09 checking in
The clever ones don't get caught
“Good fun though”
He killed a dog incase it grassed him lol
"Just my luck it'd be the first one that could talk and it'd say "Mad Frankie done it!"" 😂
Lovely violence but did not want a bar of the War. Mmmm.
Apparently not why fight for the country .?
I wonder if he actually believes his own stories, because nobody else does!
Frances Davidson Fraser most certainly Scots origin and not North American Indian unless the names came via the Americas,
Please believe me he didnt need tools cause he could have a straightner just with his fists respect to the fraser family uf anyone in contact with his boys mention jeff deadman
Benny he was 5ft 2
@@patterdale4332 5 foot 4 before he got old. Short for an adult male, but Frankie was completely fearless and so dangerous, he’d use any weapon. Shot and stabbed so many people. He was more feared than any of the others. Everyone wanted Frankie on their side. It’s hard for people who have only ever seen him as an old man to understand just how terrified people were of Frank
Frank legend Billy Hill and the richardsons knew the score
I've heard stories about Jeff deadman was one hard man he and frank jr grew up together in the 50s and 60s in South london old school
Fred ain't Dead
My dad met franki feazer
So?
It’d be nice if you could spell his name, seeing as you and your dad are such fans.
paul connelly sorry my spelling isn’t great
We are not fans dad just met him once
The fact hees done so many years in different prison doing long sentences lots of our fathers got to meet Frank or speak to him over the years
But that's life
Pentovill 👍👍👍big love
How many years did he do ?
How many people did he kill if any ?
40 years in prison! Not sure how many...
Bullshit or sponsored bullshit?
Frank t😭🤔🤗🤗🤗🇦🇹🚆
Wrong un like his sons..little wanna be chiv merchants
Ended up in sheltered housing at taxpayers' expense. tax payers paid for the time in jail. think about it!
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Whoooosh crAck
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So I'm guessing these type of guys weren't serving their country then in world war two?
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don't do the crime if you don't like doing the time!
😀😀😀😀😀😀 put me in small large ❤❤
Albert reading and Courtney are hardly impartial towards Frank, I’m from a mans world like he was.farming culture,hoss men culture and traveler gypsey culture and I can honestly say being a buy is frowned upon so Frank Fraser would no doubt deny totally and utterly he was any kind of bully
i done the dana, i may well have been in frankies cell, haha. what a man.