I have a 2005 Alfa 156 1.9 16v 148hp, and wouldn't change it even for a lot of newer vw's and Peugeots! Reliable, drives really good, feels great, cheap maintenance, a lot of parts available, looks great, low consumption... 🇮🇹🍀
For anyone interested On the 29th of May 2020 I did 146, miles from a near empty tank On 10.1 liters of diesel. On a 2001 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 124871 thousand miles. Enjoyd every mile.
Alfa 156 1.9 jtd is also a rocket compere to this two ... 0-60 takes 10 sec and average consumption is 5 l on 100 km,and it will last longer!JTD is the best and the first common rail diesel engine in europe
Unfortunately the usual VW bias you would expect from the motoring press - the 406 is described as getting from 0 - 60 in a "tedious" 12.5s but the Passat's 0 - 60 of a "shade over 12.5s" is "perfectly acceptable", so slower is better because it has a VW badge.........
Actually, Richard was wrong. If he was driving a TDI PD it couldn't have less than 115 hp at that time (that's the first PD engine VW had introduced on Passat B5) and the 0-60 time for this car is actually 10.5 s...way faster than the Peugeot. LAter on, Peugeot came with a revised 2.0 HDI engine which produced 109 hp, in order to match the performance of their competitors. Oh...and they were wrong again when saying that only Alfa Romeo engine came with direct diesel injection. All 3 cars were equiped with high pressure direct injection systems (Alfa and Peugeot - Common rail; VW - Pumpe Dusse)
+Dan Bucurica the 2.0 HDi was available from the start with 90 or 110 bhp in the Citroen Xantia. then developed a 16v version for the Synergie and later models, with power raising to 138, 150, 160 and 180bhp
The 110hp HDI is actually a bit older than the 90hp one. The 110 was available from october '98 in both the 406 and the Xantia, the 90hp one became available in april '99. I just don't get why they didn't test the 110 here though. Would be a much more fair comparison I think...they do claim the 406 is the most expensive car there, but I guess that's probably just 'cause they've got a top of the line model. The Passat and 406 were pretty similarly priced, at least here in the Netherlands, the Passat actually being a bit more expensive.
I've had a few 156's and currently have a 2.4 JTD pushing 180 hp ( It's a 140 hp engine that's been remapped ) and giving around 45 mpg after doing 151,000 miles, if the rust doesn't get them they can go on forever and are a lot of fun.
Yeah i don't agree with Ginny on that, i had one of these in the exec model, it was a looker and very stylish, most comfortable car ive owned, had it 5 years and loved it
this all is tragical journalism, 406 can't be boring because it is at least as stylish as alfa, they compare cars with different power, 406 with 90 hp, passat with 115 hp and alfa with 136 hp.
alfa diesel(common rail and also very powerful and sweet delivery without vibrations) hat light years beyond technology then tractor VW :) , and pumpe düse also the most unreliable, noisy and rattle diesel, with worst power delivery. the problem is not the reliability in 156, very bead chosen plastical materials inside and very small boot. they made it excellent with 159 but a real car fan can still buy 156....(i did not see any rusted 156 yet but there are many passats with rusts)... forget old cliche's alfa is the best to drive and own. but 156 interior is a question mark, check 159 better.
I have two passats one is a 1.8t and the second is 1.9 tdi they dont have rust and they dont have problems its his opinion he is a alfa lover i can see
I have owned both a 406 (2.2 HDi) and Passat (2.0 TDi). The Peugeot was impeccably reliable. The VW was hideously unreliable and outrageously expensive to fix. Better than both these cars I ran a BMW 528i (E39) which was sensationally good to own. The BMW costly ownership myth is just that.
morrow Because they were going for family cars, and a Coupé which looks cramped in the rear (though it really isn't!) and which cannot seat 5 people, is not exactly a family car choice. But of course it's an excellent vehicle. One of the most beautiful cars ever built on the outside. The inside... took a while. There's not a whole lot aesthetically wrong with the shape of the dashboard (could be a tad better to be honest) and Recaro simply makes the best seats in the world, but it took them like 5 iterations until they decided to use two-tone steering wheels and leather covered console, which is when they started to look the part on the inside.
morrow , S, realmente belo o 406 coupe, mas alfa 156 é um familiar disfarçado disfarçado de coupe e fica tbm muito bem, sendo que em coupe tbm havia o volvo s70 coupe que tbm era lindo
The a4 TDI the Octavia TDI the Toledo TDI The bora TDI the Passat TDI are soooo are the best diesel engines from that decade above all the toledo engine
I still have an Alfa 156 1.9 JTD from 2000. I love this car and will never sell it. Compared to the boring Passat and Peugeot, the Alfa brings every day a smile on my face.
I've had a 2.2L HDi 136cv Peugeot 406 for about 10 years and to be honest, this is still a beautiful car when the Passat (which wasn't yet restyled in the video) looks horrible today. Of course the second version of the Passat is way better. But I have to say that I hate the Alfa, the front part is just disgusting...
If I remember well, the Passat had not yet introduced Common rail version, rather, it had the inferior Pump duisse - noisy and thirsty Diesel design. It should have come last in the review.
+XTad1 Efficient - No. Reliable - probably. But the reveiwers were clueless Technical facts and pegged their verdict on their personal biases which we can always predict ie VW= Good, Peugeot = Bad.
Wrong. What you are referring to as "noisy and thirsty" is pre-chamber diesel designs. What made diesels awesome was direct injection. And Passat (and Audi) was first to have it. In the video this is not even PD engine, this is the high pressure Bosch VE system. Very reliable and economy is just as good as PD and Commonrail. Maybe few percent lower.
Low and behold the Passat has lasted the longest. See more B5 Passats than the 406's maybe just my area but the Passat doesn't look that old or out of place in 2018 roads
Only Passat haven’t failed the test on time . Many Passat in good conditions are on the streets today . And i think it s the only one that does not look that old yet .
eu ate concordo com a seleçao e avaliaçao, e eu adoro alfa e tenho uma 156sw jtd ,mas ,mas se aqui tivesse o bmw serie 3 , 320d,.. e o rover 75, tbm era e sao bons carros, a meu ver a nivel interior em 98 o interior mais charmoso requintado era o do rover, parece mais jaguar,. o bmw a seguir depois alfa, em estetica , alfa sem duvida, em motor alfa e bmw,embora tdi e hdi tbm bons,mas menos desportivos,..o som do motor 2,4 jtd 150hp é dos mais melodiosos de sempre,...... ainda é,..lol rsrs
а почему не сравнивали с 406 v6 215 hp Не 406 из этой тройки Красивей ! (и это у них просто не хватило Признать этот Факт) а 406 купе это шедевр от пининфарино или Он ошибался в дизайне своего Детища ? на и седан Он тоже Участвовал в разработке !
hmm why no ford? it is britain after all... ford should be no 1. vw looks boring and it sounds like bucket, alfa, nothing beautiful about it, nothing sporty as well, leaves me with peugeot and it's wonderful 2.2Hdi, oh yes, in england there were no 2.2 hdi.
Ive owned 5 all with problems. You can say i bought them as vehicles to use for a few weeks 2 i had at the same time both had injector problems even with low mileage They really are not built well
Julius Palekas eate concordo que o 406 é um bom carro bom motor, mas dai a dizer que e maravilhoso,.. uhnm, e que o alfa e feio, ou nada bonito e no minimo estranho pois toda a gente sabe ou devia saber que em 97 e anos seguintes no havia rival estetico desien incrivel avançado pra era era sem duvida alfa 156 , ainda hoje e um carro belo e charmoso e mui desportivo, o 2,2 hdi é bom sim, mas o 2,4 tbm o é ou ate melhor, o vw como carro ate devera ser o melhor,.. mas tbm escolheria alfa, e ate tenho uma 156 sw 1,9 e me satisfaz
The Passat didn't last long at all. You never see them anymore and are incredibly dull. Poor build quality killed them off, the same with the 156. The Peugeot 406 however, is still seen on a daily basis and non of them are rotten with the interior still intact. It seems you get what you pay for in the end.
@@Nikola_W211 I didn't say they are bad, I said that they are the worst of the three. 2.0 HDi and 1.9 JTDm are much better engines. The 1.9 TDi may be better than the HDi in terms of reliability, but it's much more expensive to run in thr long term.
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406 is boring? Then what is Passat?
Love Alfa 156 still beautiful after all this time
Ian Townsend yes, forever
A New classic car.👍
Always !
I have a 2005 Alfa 156 1.9 16v 148hp, and wouldn't change it even for a lot of newer vw's and Peugeots! Reliable, drives really good, feels great, cheap maintenance, a lot of parts available, looks great, low consumption... 🇮🇹🍀
That's powerul the alpha 148 hp.
And the fuel economy amazing cars the alpha
For anyone interested
On the 29th of May 2020
I did 146, miles from a near empty tank
On 10.1 liters of diesel.
On a 2001 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI
124871 thousand miles.
Enjoyd every mile.
What i find funny about the ECO figures here, is that the Pug set the world record for distance on one tank in this exact model!
Alfa 156 1.9 jtd is also a rocket compere to this two ... 0-60 takes 10 sec and average consumption is 5 l on 100 km,and it will last longer!JTD is the best and the first common rail diesel engine in europe
+Milos Ilic
HDi is better than JTD, sorry PSA group diesel was best of all time, look at history boy
You do know that the HDi is just boughten common rail JTD licence from Fiat, like the Mercedes CDi is, and many others. Do your research first.
But TDi was better engineered and built overall. Just look at how many 1990s TDis are still on the road today... These were revolutionary engines.
10secs ? More like 8.5 to me.
Unfortunately the usual VW bias you would expect from the motoring press - the 406 is described as getting from 0 - 60 in a "tedious" 12.5s but the Passat's 0 - 60 of a "shade over 12.5s" is "perfectly acceptable", so slower is better because it has a VW badge.........
Actually, Richard was wrong. If he was driving a TDI PD it couldn't have less than 115 hp at that time (that's the first PD engine VW had introduced on Passat B5) and the 0-60 time for this car is actually 10.5 s...way faster than the Peugeot. LAter on, Peugeot came with a revised 2.0 HDI engine which produced 109 hp, in order to match the performance of their competitors.
Oh...and they were wrong again when saying that only Alfa Romeo engine came with direct diesel injection. All 3 cars were equiped with high pressure direct injection systems (Alfa and Peugeot - Common rail; VW - Pumpe Dusse)
+Dan Bucurica the 2.0 HDi was available from the start with 90 or 110 bhp in the Citroen Xantia. then developed a 16v version for the Synergie and later models, with power raising to 138, 150, 160 and 180bhp
The 110hp HDI is actually a bit older than the 90hp one. The 110 was available from october '98 in both the 406 and the Xantia, the 90hp one became available in april '99. I just don't get why they didn't test the 110 here though. Would be a much more fair comparison I think...they do claim the 406 is the most expensive car there, but I guess that's probably just 'cause they've got a top of the line model. The Passat and 406 were pretty similarly priced, at least here in the Netherlands, the Passat actually being a bit more expensive.
Passat 110cv does it in 11.2 secs and the 115cv does it in 10.6 secs
I've owned both a Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110, 406 2.1TD & a VW Passat 1.9TDi 130bhp.I loved them all.
Yeah, why did they have a HDI 90?
I've had a few 156's and currently have a 2.4 JTD pushing 180 hp ( It's a 140 hp engine that's been remapped ) and giving around 45 mpg after doing 151,000 miles, if the rust doesn't get them they can go on forever and are a lot of fun.
The Alfa Romeo was released in 1997 and still looks fantastic. ❤
the 406 doesn't cut it in the style stakes? Is she pissed?
If you listen carefully she meant the interior design.
Yes you're right, she's not very clear on it though.
Of course, 406 is far more better in styling and also in handling than she explained
@@shehanperera8492 tbh the 406 is the best looking on exterior
Yeah i don't agree with Ginny on that, i had one of these in the exec model, it was a looker and very stylish, most comfortable car ive owned, had it 5 years and loved it
the 406 has 110bhp not 96..... and it's quicker than the Passat and way more interesting/stylish.
Passat also has 110 version. They both have 90 and 110 trim option.
funny is today a passat b5.5 (not this) looks very good, but the peugeot like 206 looks old
Passat TDI is more reliable and quicker engine
this all is tragical journalism, 406 can't be boring because it is at least as stylish as alfa, they compare cars with different power, 406 with 90 hp, passat with 115 hp and alfa with 136 hp.
JTD forever ... I have the 1.9L in my 147 ..
? Why ?
I will Buy GTA soon
The VW TDI sounded like a tractor compared to the modern HDI and JTD engines at the time but VW sold a lot of them anyway.
We know what happens when VW tries to refine their diesels #dieselgate
Haha because TDI power is soooo much better compare to that trash HDI AND JTD
@@enriquemalparidabermejo8332 yeah, not really. JTD has more potential
@@lucianistoc1264 lol u lit know nothing if ur saying that for real 😂😂😂
@@enriquemalparidabermejo8332 lmao, i worked with both and it's easier to get more power from a JTD, it also sounds better
alfa diesel(common rail and also very powerful and sweet delivery without vibrations) hat light years beyond technology then tractor VW :) , and pumpe düse also the most unreliable, noisy and rattle diesel, with worst power delivery. the problem is not the reliability in 156, very bead chosen plastical materials inside and very small boot. they made it excellent with 159 but a real car fan can still buy 156....(i did not see any rusted 156 yet but there are many passats with rusts)... forget old cliche's alfa is the best to drive and own. but 156 interior is a question mark, check 159 better.
@@Nikola_W211 haha,you dont like the truth?😂
I have two passats one is a 1.8t and the second is 1.9 tdi they dont have rust and they dont have problems its his opinion he is a alfa lover i can see
Pump duse tdi has to be one of the most robust engines ever built...
I have owned both a 406 (2.2 HDi) and Passat (2.0 TDi). The Peugeot was impeccably reliable. The VW was hideously unreliable and outrageously expensive to fix. Better than both these cars I ran a BMW 528i (E39) which was sensationally good to own. The BMW costly ownership myth is just that.
The vw 2.0 tdi sucks, the 1.9 is far better and I have a horrendous experience with HDI
Why 2.0 tdi sucks?
why didn't they throw the peugeot 406 coupe 2.2 hdi in there? by far the best and most beautiful diesel of it's era!
morrow Because they were going for family cars, and a Coupé which looks cramped in the rear (though it really isn't!) and which cannot seat 5 people, is not exactly a family car choice.
But of course it's an excellent vehicle. One of the most beautiful cars ever built on the outside. The inside... took a while. There's not a whole lot aesthetically wrong with the shape of the dashboard (could be a tad better to be honest) and Recaro simply makes the best seats in the world, but it took them like 5 iterations until they decided to use two-tone steering wheels and leather covered console, which is when they started to look the part on the inside.
morrow , S, realmente belo o 406 coupe, mas alfa 156 é um familiar disfarçado disfarçado de coupe e fica tbm muito bem, sendo que em coupe tbm havia o volvo s70 coupe que tbm era lindo
The a4 TDI the Octavia TDI the Toledo TDI The bora TDI the Passat TDI are soooo are the best diesel engines from that decade above all the toledo engine
What a Car the 406 hdi.. Will outlast the competition for sure
I still have an Alfa 156 1.9 JTD from 2000. I love this car and will never sell it. Compared to the boring Passat and Peugeot, the Alfa brings every day a smile on my face.
I've had a 2.2L HDi 136cv Peugeot 406 for about 10 years and to be honest, this is still a beautiful car when the Passat (which wasn't yet restyled in the video) looks horrible today. Of course the second version of the Passat is way better. But I have to say that I hate the Alfa, the front part is just disgusting...
RaZe Levleboss
406 is disgusting
If I remember well, the Passat had not yet introduced Common rail version, rather, it had the inferior Pump duisse - noisy and thirsty Diesel design. It should have come last in the review.
+stomats The old PD diesels were much more efficient and reliable than the new ones.
+XTad1 Efficient - No. Reliable - probably. But the reveiwers were clueless Technical facts and pegged their verdict on their personal biases which we can always predict ie VW= Good, Peugeot = Bad.
Wrong. What you are referring to as "noisy and thirsty" is pre-chamber diesel designs. What made diesels awesome was direct injection. And Passat (and Audi) was first to have it. In the video this is not even PD engine, this is the high pressure Bosch VE system. Very reliable and economy is just as good as PD and Commonrail. Maybe few percent lower.
@@ztech6596 first diesel with direct injection was Fiat Croma from 1985. VAG just popularise them.
Leaving the other things aside, I don't understand why one would say the Peugeot sounds better than the Alfa...
I'm sure the B5 passat used a mechanical diesel pump not PD? the face-lift B5.5 was the start of PD was it not?
The last B5's are PD. The year before B5.5 is out.
I regularly get 50+ mpg out of my 156, best I've got is 56mpg and it's done 290 000 km.
Low and behold the Passat has lasted the longest. See more B5 Passats than the 406's maybe just my area but the Passat doesn't look that old or out of place in 2018 roads
Only Passat haven’t failed the test on time . Many Passat in good conditions are on the streets today . And i think it s the only one that does not look that old yet .
406 :)
Oh and didnt they say that the Alfa was 23,000???
The best diesel car of that year was the 1.9 GT TDI in the MK4 but of all time the 5.0 V10 TDI in the VW Phaeton
eu ate concordo com a seleçao e avaliaçao, e eu adoro alfa e tenho uma 156sw jtd ,mas ,mas se aqui tivesse o bmw serie 3 , 320d,.. e o rover 75, tbm era e sao bons carros, a meu ver a nivel interior em 98 o interior mais charmoso requintado era o do rover, parece mais jaguar,. o bmw a seguir depois alfa, em estetica , alfa sem duvida, em motor alfa e bmw,embora tdi e hdi tbm bons,mas menos desportivos,..o som do motor 2,4 jtd 150hp é dos mais melodiosos de sempre,...... ainda é,..lol rsrs
what do they no about style anyway .....
а почему не сравнивали с 406 v6 215 hp
Не 406 из этой тройки Красивей ! (и это у них просто не хватило Признать этот Факт)
а 406 купе это шедевр от пининфарино или Он ошибался в дизайне своего Детища ?
на и седан Он тоже Участвовал в разработке !
Viva 406 hdi 2.0 110 ch
hmm why no ford? it is britain after all... ford should be no 1. vw looks boring and it sounds like bucket, alfa, nothing beautiful about it, nothing sporty as well, leaves me with peugeot and it's wonderful 2.2Hdi, oh yes, in england there were no 2.2 hdi.
Because fords are shit
Ford is not britain, it is EU car made in Germany or Britain,some of them in Belgium ...It is a USA manufactor that makes US and UE car models..
Ive owned 5 all with problems. You can say i bought them as vehicles to use for a few weeks
2 i had at the same time both had injector problems even with low mileage
They really are not built well
Milos Ilic tell me something new. I meant they love fords, but nothing special about those cars.
Julius Palekas eate concordo que o 406 é um bom carro bom motor, mas dai a dizer que e maravilhoso,.. uhnm, e que o alfa e feio, ou nada bonito e no minimo estranho pois toda a gente sabe ou devia saber que em 97 e anos seguintes no havia rival estetico desien incrivel avançado pra era era sem duvida alfa 156 , ainda hoje e um carro belo e charmoso e mui desportivo, o 2,2 hdi é bom sim, mas o 2,4 tbm o é ou ate melhor, o vw como carro ate devera ser o melhor,.. mas tbm escolheria alfa, e ate tenho uma 156 sw 1,9 e me satisfaz
The Passat didn't last long at all. You never see them anymore and are incredibly dull. Poor build quality killed them off, the same with the 156. The Peugeot 406 however, is still seen on a daily basis and non of them are rotten with the interior still intact. It seems you get what you pay for in the end.
pegout 406 super car..
personally I'd have the Passat, Pugs and Alfa's aren't known for being bullet proof, especially where electrics are concerned
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Peugeot 406 v6 restoration: ua-cam.com/video/2Mb4zdQdDO4/v-deo.html
Speed&Style 156
Comfort&Reliability 406
Shit&Shit Passat
You are a noob
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Yeah and the Alpha Romeo will rust in a shower, and break down weekly all show and no go, give me the 406 any day
Appalling journalism full of mistakes. Hammond droning away - never changed. Ginny still beautiful but content accuracy appalling
This goes to prove that reviewer are just a noisy and clueless lot.
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Hammond 🤮🤢
Never buy Citreon or a Renault or a Peugeot there French not being racist or anything but the engine is unreliable
In my experience the Peugeot HDI is by far the most reliable of these three.
cariusx The HDi is the cheapest to run, The JTDm is the quickest and is a bit less unreliable, and the TDi is definitely the worst.
@@konyina i have a 1.9 tdi passat had no problems with it
@@Nikola_W211 I didn't say they are bad, I said that they are the worst of the three. 2.0 HDi and 1.9 JTDm are much better engines. The 1.9 TDi may be better than the HDi in terms of reliability, but it's much more expensive to run in thr long term.
@@konyina ok
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA ALFA ....