E-Flite F4U-4 Corsair 1.2m BNF Basic with AS3X and SAFE Select - Model AV8R Review
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In Model AV8R Episode 44, we feature the new E- Flite 1.2m F4U-4 Corsair. This model is newly updated and upgraded. In our review we cover how it was packed, the assembly, our set up, and the model's flight characteristics. You'll see footage from our maiden, some scale flying with/without the drop tanks, and some bonus footage. This model belongs to our friend, Scott Elmore, and it is special...his father Lowell flew them in the Korean war. We'll tell you about his exploits as well. Thanks to Scott for letting us review his NIB Corsair!
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:18 Shout Out To Scott Elmore
00:48 Captain Lowell Elmore - Korean War Corsair Pilot
02:53 About the New 1.2m Corsair
04:20 Packing And Assembly
07:40 Flying Intro/Set Up Page
09:52 Flying Footage - Maiden Flight
12:14 Flying Footage - With Drop Tanks
18:22 Flying Footage - Grass Ops, No Drop Tanks
22:19 Flying Footage - Bonus Footage
23:06 Our Final Thoughts - Розваги
Adam, another great video!......................now an update on my dad, Captain Lowell Elmore. For those that don't know, my dad (96 years old) had a stroke at the time of the release of Adam's video. It's been a long road for him, but he was able to finally watch (and comprehend) the video last week. When he watched the video, he smiled and gave a thumbs up as he is still unable to speak. His visual therapy includes photos and videos and those that include the Corsair are at the TOP of the list. Adam, YOUR video is really helping my dad recover. He has watched it 4 times and will continue to watch it. He gives a stronger reaction each time. Thank you so much for the wonderful tribute to my dad! Optimistically, you can personally demo your Corsair scale flying skills for him at the flying field in the near future! Scott Elmore
Scott it was our pleasure. So glad the video is having a positive affect on him and he's on the mend! I would be honored to fly for Captain Elmore. Truly honored.
Great tribute to Captain Elmore!! Thank you for doing this Adam.
Glad you enjoyed it! Great man.
Great piloting! Next up on my shopping list!
Thank you my friend. It is a fun one for sure!
I like your chocks...paint them yellow and add some twine to hook em together!
Lol...I thought about that!
Thank you Capt Elmore... You are a great American and a true hero.... Adam, thanks for the quality video and content.
Thanks for the kind words my friend!
Thank you, Adam for the great scale flight of the Corsair. Thanks you Captain Elmore for you service to our Country. There is a great picture of the Corsair and Mustang on the EAA page that shows just how big the full scale is in comparison to the Mustang.
Tony thanks for the kind words. We have a CAF wing close to us (Dixie Wings) and they have a P-51 and Corsair. You're right...the bent wing bird dwarfs the Mustang.
Not enough good can be said about your opening and honoring Captain Elmore. As always the rest is well done, nothing less than wha tg I would expect from you Adam. Outstanding.
Thank you so much David...means a lot. They don't make many men like that anymore...truly the greatest generation.
Thank you for your service Captian Elmore.Good review and enjoyed watching.
Thanks very much for the kind words!
Fantastic Demo as always, Big thank you to Mr. Elmore for his service 🇺🇸✈️👍
Thank you Mike, and yes sir...all those boys are heroes.
Great scale flying Adam. I do love the history lesson you do behind each plane. Brilliant information on the plane 🫡
Thanks so much Chris!
Fantastic story at the beginning Adam and those landings with the prop arc looked fantastic 👍
Thanks very much Cliff!
Thanks Adam, such a professional and informative video, the footage is just superb. All the historical data just adds to such a professional end product - just awesome. Keep up the excellent work 😎👍🏻 🇬🇧
Thanks very much Sean! Really glad you are enjoying the channel.
Great take off! Looks great.
Thank you!
CPT Elmore thank you for your service. Have to get this one, great video Adam and Heidi, Salute Jeff in LA
Thank you Jeff!
Awesome video!! Thank you Captain Elmore, for your service. Excellent story. It's taken me about a month to get decent "greaser" landings with this thing. You really have to be dancing on that rudder, and I still get a ground loop now and then. Thank you for the content!!
Zack thank you very much! Glad you enjoy it. Yes, this Corsair is a challenge ground handling...especially off of a smooth surface.
Just wanted to say a very Merry Christmas to you and Heidi and family. You ARE the best and my favorite rc channel to watch!! JESUS is the reason for the season. 🙏
New to the channel and enjoying the videos. Outstanding back story in the beginning and thank you for your service. Keep up the great reviews.
Ken welcome to the Model AV8R family. Thanks very much for watching and the kind comment!
Very Interesting Adam - Enjoyed the Video - Historic information was good to learn - Stay Safe all of you - Martyn
Thank you Martyn! Glad you enjoyed it. You stay safe and well...as well!
Great review Adam, and a fantastic history lesson!! What an honour to have your friends War Hero of a Dad to watch the review!! And you did him and the E-flite Corsair proud, some great scale flying!! I can only watch in awe of your skill as a pilot, fantastic filming as always from Heidi, a very enjoyable video!! Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Captain Elmore is a true hero...all those boys on our side from the BoB to Enola Gay were all heroes. Thanks so much for the kind words Ian...you are a damn good stick yourself...
as always GR8 video and review my friend!!!
Thank you SlowJo!
I simply cannot tell you how awesome this video is! Aside from your review of this very nice re-do of the E-flite model, your tribute to Capt. Elmore is just amazing...and incredible! Thank you so much for connecting this model to the actual history of the full scale plane; well done! While not a big fan of Corsairs, I'm also a fan of Corsairs! Yes...that sounds conflicted, but HEY, I'm okay with that. Hope you are too. Great job by Heidi following this thing around, and great job job by you making sure this plane doesn't end up in the trees! Cheers to Team Gault!
Thanks brother John! I knew this would be right up your alley being the life long military man you are. Captain Elmore, you, all who selflessly serve their country...you're all heroes in my book. Glad you enjoyed the episode buddy...not a bad Corsair for sure, but the 1.6 FLRC is still the best Corsair I've flown.
Hey Adam, as always and excellent relating story about the aircraft and history Captain Elmore's heroic experiences with the plane! Also a fantastic review and flight of the E-Flite F4U, one of my favorite planes from them. I have the Parkzone Corsair and green Marine E-Flite version and will probably get this one to keep the streak going lol! Big thumbs up! Best regards!
Hey Fred Thanks very much my friend! Captain Elmore was something! You can't have to many Corsairs...lol.
Like the yellow tips on the four blade.
It does look good in the sun.
I love the F4U-4 Corsair planes, beautiful plane, nice flight and video! Thanks, ☠Semper Fi...
Thanks very much! Great airplane.
Awesome! I just madien mine yesterday! Love it
Great airplane! Congrats!
I know I am late getting to this but I have to say it, Captain Elmore, thank you for your Service 🇺🇸 you are who I tell my Daughter to look up to.
The F4U Coursair is my al time favorite Aircraft, we have 6 counting my Daughters 2. Everything from the little Rage RC Warbird to the one like in this video. Thanks Adam for all these awesome videos.
Thank you Adam. Captain Elmore appreciates that I know. Scott reads him every comment.
If you don't mind, send us a pic of you and your daughter with one of your Corsairs to our channel e mail. Your father/daughter rc story is the kind of thing we'd love to share with our viewers on a community post. Also if you don't want pics on the internet we understand that as well.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I will definitely get you some pictures! That would be great 👍🏼😃
After this really great Review i had to order one. I couldn’t resist!
Help! I’m a model airplane addicted…
We all are Peter!
Flown with a Master's touch, Adam. My favourite fruit... 1.2m Warbirds flown scale. What a fab and groovy video and kudos to Heidi for super footage. Is Hollywood missing a top class camera operator? 🤔 I think Christmas is sorted for me with this lovely Corsair...
Miss Gina you are too kind! Heidi is really getting good for sure. I love the scale flying too. Wait to you see what we do next week...you might need one!
nice intro...good look at this model...
Thank very much!
Great job Adam, I concur with the ground handling issue, and tiny prop. Mine is a handful on takeoff roll, but like you said it fly's great in the air. I would love it if someday they could get the proper color blue right, dark navy blue is the correct shade FS 15042 I still love it and will fix all those things 😎
Thank you Pappy. Yeah the tiny prop is annoying...lol. I have no doubt you'll get her like you want it. You are the Corsair master!
Looks great. I know the scale guys are gonna have a fit but ide put a 2 blade on it to up the efficiency.
A nice 2 blade Xoar WWII prop would look as good as the tiny 4 blade. Lol
Another excellent and thorough review sir! All through the video I was hoping you’d address the prop size, but you did me one better and gave a thoughtful and credible explanation. It makes sense, but it sort of kills the plane for me, as the huge prop is such a defining feature of the Corsair. My dream would be a variable pitch prop to address some of the P factor issues on takeoff that come with a large prop. It sounds crazy, but my $99 dollar Blade Nano has a durable collective pitch flybarless rotor system with cyclic control in a tiny package, so I don’t think an RPM-governed variable pitch prop would be too difficult for Horizon to pull off! A fella can dream I guess.
Thanks for the kind words buddy! I'm glad you liked the review, and that I touched on what you wanted me to. I have to tell ya...just learning to use the rudder and proper taildragger technique is the easiest fix for torque issues on takeoff. Variable pitch props on that size plane are probably not something we'll see anytime soon if ever. These planes are turning way more rpms than a nano heli. I have seen constant speed props on giant scale planes...basically they used a large heli rotor system for props. It was a big 3D plane at Joe Nall one year.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Great point about the RPM, hadn’t thought of that. Guess I’ll put away my outrage haha
@@Stinkles_ Lol!
Just a wonderful video Adam. Many thanks for honouring the Vets. I have the Arrows F4U & you are correct about the standard flaps. It was a nice inexpensive plane (around US$200) The undercarriage failed the first time out on mine but I think the undercarriage on this would be more robust. Can you access the tight cockpit to insert a miniature camera? Regards & thanks again mate.
Thanks very much! It is well built for sure. Looks like to me you can easily get in to the cockpit from underneath...cut through the bottom of the hatch.
Many thanks Adam, the new Cirrus ( here) ua-cam.com/video/A1Bx4n0kMuE/v-deo.html
Enables me to easily get to the cockpit for filming,
Regards mate
Noel
Many thanks Adam, the new Cirrus ( here) ua-cam.com/video/A1Bx4n0kMuE/v-deo.html
Enables me to easily get to the cockpit for filming,
Regards mate
Noel
Another great review Adam, with your customary skilled flying and Heidi's great camera work. Well done.
E-Flite have found a sweet-spot for sure with their 1.2m wingspan warbirds: this Corsair seems to be no exception.
I have their 1.2m P47 Thunderbolt in silver. It flies so well that it is difficult to forget that it is a warbird as it's so easy to get sucked into aerobatic manoeuvres that a warbird is not supposed to execute! Since I acquired this plane a couple of months ago I have noticed a step-change in my landing skills: to land not just this, but the other craft in my fleet, with greater confidence and accuracy. I can take off with the tail high allowing it to ascend naturally and to return with 2-point landing with the tail high running on until the tail naturally settles. It also has remarkable stability at low air speeds, and in strong crosswind landings. The E-Flite P47 has graduated into my Windy Fleet.
Is the F4U propeller a split hub with four separate blades, like FMS T28 etc? The standard 4 blade prop on the P47 is so damn fragile it only has to have the slightest contact with the ground and another £15 is lost. So for general flying I have switched to a 2-blade prop with greater diameter and greater pitch: MA 11.5x7/5, arrived at that size using power, amp and thrust checks against the OEM 4-blade. Three benefits: a more durable prop, more efficient and less torque. So the flights on 4S 2200mah HD are 6 mins rather than 4 mins and the take off roll/turn to the left is less pronounced.
Oh! The left turn on take off I have further improved following your tip in your review of the FMS Pitts Special. I've added a few percent throttle to rudder mix via a custom curve. The lack of yaw in vertical climbs is a bonus too.
E-Flite 1.2m wingspan warbirds are highly recommended.
I agree Dave...the 1.2's are great airplanes, and the AS3X seems to be tuned pretty well with most of them, and that helps the wind performance.
The Corsair's prop is the same as on your P-47 I suspect...one piece and it sucks the battery dry quickly. That would be one of the negatives to the power system for me...I hate the tiny props. Why make it "scale" and make it 3 inches too short. They could have put a power system together that has the punch but also has some duration. I ended up with the timer on 4 min. with a 2200 and coming down at 3.75 per cell and could eek out 4 1/2 if I was careful. For comparisons sake the new DuraFly Spitfire MKIIa uses the same battery, has a proper scale size prop, and I got 6 min and came down at 3.85 per cell, so I could go to 7 min easily.
I hope they re-release the P-39 1.2...that would be a cool, rarely modeled plane to have!
The Pitts is the only plane I have a throttle to rudder mix on, and it doesn't really help with take offs. It is only a 3% mix and is there only to keep the plane in yaw trim while its on step at speed from 65% to 100% throttle. I think changing the prop and adding some power...more than it was set up for...had an effect on this.
Always nice to improve and be a better pilot, glad things are coming together for you...practice, practice, practice. It doesn't always make perfect like the cliche' says, but it will make you pretty darn good! Happy flying!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Cheers Adam
Just to clarify, I'm not Spektrum therefore I don't use AX3S. I fly OpenTX (RadioMaster TX with FrSky RX). But I do fly with gyros for anti-wobble stability using SXR receivers in all models. The SXRs do need the knowledge to tune the individual gains. I get tune them how I like them!
I did find with the P47 that I did need to increase the throws of the rudder to achieve better authority for landings. I also set the ailerons to the book with mechanicsl differential to get more realistic turns.
This plane i intend to use for head tracker FPV flight control.
I always enjoy your scale precision flying Brother Adam! Any recommendations for a first Warbird? Also, ***Note: Your J3 Cub painting is in-progress and going well. But I need if possible an idea for a Scale-Correct Aircraft I.D. number to put on the painting. *I've noticed some J3's have it vertically oriented on the Rudder, others have it horizontal across the vertical stabilizer...
Thank you Mark! I know you got the answer on your other comment about the J-3. As for a first warbird it is hard to beat the 1.2 T-28 from HH. Retracts, flaps, tricycle gear, plenty of power, and reasonably priced.
@@ModelAV8RChannel T28 sounds good!
I'm new to this hobby, less than a year into it. You mentioned the prop size and the reasoning for the smaller prop. What would happen if you simply installed a more scale size prop?
Hey man welcome to the hobby and thanks for watching us!
An electric motors KV rating is the rpm's per volt without a load (no propeller). The bigger the prop the higher the load. If you go to a bigger prop...it will pull more amps. A motor and ESC's amp rating is the maximum amount of amps (constant) that a motor can pull without burning up. Amp's by the way is current/heat. So if you put a prop on that is too big you can over amp the motor and the ESC and burn them up. Obviously the right size prop and KV motor has to be figured out carefully, but the right lower KV motor could spin a larger prop and keep the amps in an acceptable range.
Adam, I've had this plane for about a year now and it flies great but my servos for my flaps buzz. I've tried everything to try to stop them. Do you have any ideas that I might have overlooked?
Usually that means the endpoints need to be adjusted in the flap settings. You want to dial the travel back one number at a time on both ends until they stop buzzing. Also maybe oil the ball links. Anything that binds them even slightly can make them buzz.
Could you post a tutorial on how to get this plane off the ground? I've broken three props now, and I'm at the end of my rope. Anything less than full right rudder has the plane shooting off the strip to the left. Too much power or not enough back elevator, and it noses over and breaks the prop. Too little power or too much back elevator, and it lifts off before it has enough air speed, and then it drops a wing and cart wheels. It's really frustrating. I wish I could practice in the sim, but the RealFlight version of this plane is nothing like the real one.
Hey man. Sorry you're having trouble with it...it is one of the more challenging taildraggers out there. We actually have you covered. Check out our "Becoming A Better RC Pilot" Episode (Episode 47). We do a scale takeoff instructional in that one, and that is the technique I use with the 1.2 Corsair.
it happens to me that after a flight of approx. 3 minutes with a 4s battery, the engine is very hot. this seems a little abnormal to me that it gets so hot. does your engine heat up too?
Not that I've noticed, but I do use throttle management a lot, so only at WOT for short spurts.
Congratulations for the video and the historical information, but the take-off is very, very critical, the model tends to put its nose down and knock the propeller to the ground, with unpleasant consequences. Do you have any advice for the take-off phase (with 4 cells and a grass runway)? Greetings from Italy
Hello Mario! You are in luck my friend. Tune in to our Episode next week. It is on becoming a better RC pilot, and there is instruction in it for a nice, long, slow scale takeoff with a taildragger.
Does anyone know where I can get replacement landing gear for this model??. I can't find them anywhere on line. Mine is only 2 months old and one of the servos went out already and the strut pins keep falling out. I'm tired of fixing it so I decided to just replace them. The problem is . Nobody has them available
Sand the rotation pin a bit, and glue it in with Shoe Goo. I've done that on a lot of 90deg rotating retracts.
@@ModelAV8RChannel . Ok thank you very much. I'll try that.
I have the 1.2 P-51 I like it how does it compare to the F4U? Why is the F4U 30 bucks more?
With my warbirds, and help from flying buddies, I am finally getting the hand of landing under power and landing with primarily the rudder and throttle.
It flies similar to the P-51. The ground handling is a bit harder with the Corsair. Yeah you need a bit of power on approach. Not sure on the price? Maybe newer?
I want to purchase with pnp.
Is it possible to fly comfortably without safe?
The plane flies very well. Whether you need SAFE or not is a matter of skill level.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Yes, the stall test was impressive.
The Warbird stalls well in low-speed turns. Does this aircraft not stall well? Not fast but very smooth
Yes, it's a well-oiled flight.
I want to buy it.
Would a 5s battery or transmission upgrade help to increase speed?
I fly rc planes. When you do a stall test. What are you looking for?
I'm looking to see what the airplane does when you stall it. Some drop the nose straight forward, some drop a wing a bit, and some drop a wing hard. I want to first know what the plane looks like as I approach a stall, that way I have an idea how to judge my speed when I get it slow. If it gives me some warning before it stalls (like a bit of wing rock), I want to know that. If it doesn't then I know the stall happens abruptly. Finally, once I know how mild or severe the stall characteristic is, I want to know how easy it is to recover, and how much altitude that requires. All this makes getting the plane slow something I can do with more confidence. Stalls are responsible for a lot of RC plane crashes. How many RC Warbirds have you seen stall and spin in while landing because the pilot got too slow on the turn from base to final? Most of the time when that happens...the pilot had no idea what "too slow" looked like.
@@ModelAV8RChannel thank you. I appreciate the knowledge.
F4U-4B in World War II?
Captain Elmore flew them in Korea. Which is detailed in the episode.