Jim Cornette Gives CONTROVERSIAL Opinion On CM Punk Drama
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2024
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Should AEW meet CM Punk's terms and bring him back? Let us know in the comments.
Oh how I've been waiting for my boy Jim to be on this show.
Yes. There isn't anything else to say about it. AEW is generally a lesser product in my opinion without CM Punk.
If AEW was actually run like a business. They’d be doing everything to get one of their biggest wrestlers in the ring.
@@Spider-Complexion and the evps would be appreciative of what punk did for their business, instead they influence the crowd to hate the guy who they all cried to see back! How tony can't see it's these idiots fault, is beyond me!
Absolutely.
I don’t get how people are not understanding punks side. You just gonna let people push you around while the boss does nothing? Like wtf did you expect him to do?
This! Exactly! This is the main point of it all. I never get why Punk's been called the bad guy or the "cancer" in this situation. In the past, maybe. But some people were so used to bringing up how he was this and that even to the point when it does not even make sense with the present AEW drama. And dirt sheet writers are trying to shove that kind of narrative down our throat even when it is completely disconnected.
@@reymartampus4411 probably some still bitter from 2014 and others who are both solidly "Elite" and solid Punk somehow went with "The Elite" narrative.
He handled the scrum wrong even if he had an issue with Tony’s handling of it. You just don’t dump all over the company and your boss like that. The fight I have no idea since we don’t truly know what happened with it. As for the shit leading to the show? Who knows. But clearly a huge failure of management by Tony on it. If you were planning to have this show and center it on Punk like it seems things should e been hammered out months ago. If the Steel thing was a no go for Tony then he should’ve put his foot down months ago and they agree or they move on. The idea that they’re still going back and forth at this point is genuinely just inept management.
@@Matt-cr4vv Fanboy, Tony allowed the situation to go out of hand to begin with.
Technically, they were his higher ups lol
The interpretation makes no sense: the bucks stormed into the room with the 90lbs head of the legal department to start a fight? Omega got bit because he was moving a dog?
The whole story makes no sense and this accounting of it doesn’t either. A handful of people know what’s going on and none of them have gone in depth about it nor do I trust any of the parties involved to tell the truth.
Cornette seems to be one of few that's looking at this objectively. All the others are looking for any reason to crucify Punk.
Cornette also drops to his knees for punk and hates Bucks/Omega/Khan. However me having no dog in this fight agrees with Punk and Corny
It’s absolutely insane how much credibility Dave Meltzer has lost the last few months. His reporting has been so one sided and downright horrible.
CM punk sexually assaulted a woman in 2003.
@@State.of.Emergency Does he like Punk that much? His hatred for the Bucks and Omega is well known(does he hate Khan or just think he's an idiot?) but I can't remember him feeling that strongly about CM Punk either way
@@Tony-fq5bn He def likes Punk that much because Cornette and him have similar personalities. They're both out spoken, and have no filter.
Idk why some people get so defensive whenever Corny speaks bcuz no matter how much shit he says, he seems to always deeply care about wrestling. More than some of its own fans and wrestlers today.
Because unfortunately, in all things in society in general it seems that everyone just picks a side and stick to it rather than listening to both and picking an opinion
Its because the kids these day that are my age(25 y/o) don't lnow shit about history and don't care about how things worked in the past.
Because Jim tends to hurt the feelings of the INDYMANIA or as he would put it, "OUTLAW MUDSHOW" darlings, and some of the fanbase like the darlings and call Jim the typical comments of "Out of Touch", "Old man yelling at clouds".
Sadly, a lot of people just react to things instead of listening and understanding another's perspective. Wrestling fans are especially guilty of this.
@@geesixnine
I agree with you on them not knowing anything, but I'm sorry, I'm going to have to tell you that 25 isn't a 'kid'. At 25 I was married, had 2 children with one on the way, had a mortgage and was on my second deployment in Afghanistan. I certainly wasn't a child.
I’d put money on Cornette having access to more accurate information than any “journalist” or dirt sheet writer.
You realise Cornette is is just as bad as those "journalist" since he dosent work at AEW or is in the bulding to see it first hand?
He gets info from a a 3rd party just like all those "journalist"
@@Mortallica03 Except i think there is experience to draw from here considering his past in the business.
I fucking love Jim Cornette and his direct attitude about the situation
BEEP!
Punk staying loyal to his friends instead of a paycheck speaks volumes on what kind of person he is. Good on him.
Fuck his friends this is a business life ain’t sweet
So Punk standing for up for Ace now after this ordeal happened makes him selfish but.. the whole reason ANY of this happening in the first place was cause Hangnail and company side with Colt Cabana.. stupidest double standard EVER! It’s obvious who’s wrong in this
@@thomascone5236 Same with the stupid uneducated marks like Meltzer and Alvarez.
Speak volumes that he ain't a man that can't be trusted to go through on what he says, on what he said he was going to do.
@@vincentcloud you're reaching there bro. Tony has said on multiple occasions that punk had nothing to do with the cm punk situation. And to add to that, the company didn't side with colt cabana, his friends got him a job with ring of honor off to the side out of the way of the main show.
Jim continues to have the best take on this situation. Everyone on Twitter is calling for Punk to be fired or just let him collect checks at home, meanwhile this shit has happened a thousand times behind the scenes and it's only a big deal now? Come on. The sports analogy was the best counter to everyone calling for Punk to get axed I've heard so far.
Twitter is a hell-hole for sure
Why do all of the Punk fans conveniently ignore that Punk is a toxic person? I really dont understand how his fans, and Cornette, overlook Punks very obvious toxic behavior. Everywhere he goes there is drama but it's always, conveniently, the company's fault. There are more wrestlers that don't get along with him then ones that do. The common denominator is Punk. But his fans, and Cornette, will defend him and overlook the very, very obvious fact that the guy is a toxic person who shouldn't be looked up to. He says he is all for helping women and womens rights but if you look at his past interviews and comments he's used and abused women before. He says he's straight edge but admitted to using ambien, which is a narcotic. There are also pictures of him with a beer in his hand from back in the day. He's a hypocrite who conveniently came back to wrestling when his MMA career was a complete dumpster fire, the show he was involved with was going nowhere and his inking for marvel was going nowhere. These are all facts that his fans readily ignore.
Was he great at one time? Of course, but he doesn't belong in the ring anymore. His wrestling is weak, he injures easily, and his diva attitude breaks apart whatever cohesion the locker room has. Let this sink in; Jericho is older than him, takes more serious bumps then him and doesn't injure as easily as him. His time has come and gone. And the Punk fans need to realize that putting down the old dog is better for him then letting him continue in the state he's in. And no I'm not an Omega or bucks fan, I cant stand them either. I'm just a wrestling fan that notices patterns. Can anyone seriously look at his behaviors objectively and give me a serious answer as to how and why Punks attitude and toxic behavior can be overlooked and blamed on someone/something else?
@@WarlockX4 mad?
Damn dude. You wrote a book on your hate boner for Punk.
@@WarlockX4 What kind of adult says "toxic"? Reeee meh toxic, me needa safe space.
Mr. Jim Cornette is 100% correct. AEW continues to mess up relationship with the only star that can bring them big rating.
It's already embarrassing enough that the group of EVPs of one company attacked their own superstar in his locker room like a group of dogs, knowing that he just had a 30 minute fight and seriously injured.
Cornette is 100% right....and he's been 100% right through this whole ordeal.
The Cuckamunga Kids don't care about making money for the company. They think they own their sandbox and don't want Phillip to play in it.
Why do all of the Punk fans conveniently ignore that Punk is a toxic person? I really dont understand how his fans, and Cornette, overlook Punks very obvious toxic behavior. Everywhere he goes there is drama but it's always, conveniently, the company's fault. There are more wrestlers that don't get along with him then ones that do. The common denominator is Punk. But his fans, and Cornette, will defend him and overlook the very, very obvious fact that the guy is a toxic person who shouldn't be looked up to. He says he is all for helping women and womens rights but if you look at his past interviews and comments he's used and abused women before. He says he's straight edge but admitted to using ambien, which is a narcotic. There are also pictures of him with a beer in his hand from back in the day. He's a hypocrite who conveniently came back to wrestling when his MMA career was a complete dumpster fire, the show he was involved with was going nowhere and his inking for marvel was going nowhere. These are all facts that his fans readily ignore.
Was he great at one time? Of course, but he doesn't belong in the ring anymore. His wrestling is weak, he injures easily, and his diva attitude breaks apart whatever cohesion the locker room has. Let this sink in; Jericho is older than him, takes more serious bumps then him and doesn't injure as easily as him. His time has come and gone. And the Punk fans need to realize that putting down the old dog is better for him then letting him continue in the state he's in. And no I'm not an Omega or bucks fan, I cant stand them either. I'm just a wrestling fan that notices patterns. Can anyone seriously look at his behaviors objectively and give me a serious answer as to how and why Punks attitude and toxic behavior can be overlooked and blamed on someone/something else?
@@WarlockX4 Every wrestler has toxic traits. Punk puts his grievances on the fore front. That’s just the type of person he seems to be. He’s straight up with his opinions. I don’t know where you get that more people dislike punk in the business that like him. I’ve heard quite a few people in the AEW locker room praise punk, legends praise punk. Even triple H and Vince has given punk his flowers even if there has been drama in the past. He’s his own person. No one cared about any drama he had in the past until the brawl out situation then all of a sudden punk has became the bad guy? I don’t understand that. He was defending hisself. He was in the wrong of course. After winning the world title why would your first thought be to air out your grievances against the evps and the workers? I agree with that but I assume he had enough, but so are the evps you don’t go to the biggest star in the company’s locker room to pick a fight. It’s all on Tony because he’s a terrible leader for his company and his wrestlers.
@@WarlockX4 also if you’ve seen any interviews with punk you would know he’s straight edge but has admitted to drinking a beer or having a shot with some friends for a celebration. Not doing it recreationally for his own benefit. Also if he was prescribed ambien and taking it for whatever the cause may be that’s fine. That’s a lot different than taking non prescribed medication to get a ‘high’ if you break your back and you’re straight edge are you gonna tough it out or take the pain medication they give you to ease the pain for an obvious problem? Seems like a silly argument. I’m a huge punk fan and I think this whole situation was blown out of proportion. Especially since punk hasn’t even had the proper chance to explain hisself. It’s funny how the evps can come back to the company with no explanation and no one questions them in the slightest. I’m sure I won’t change your perspective but hopefully you look at my messages objectively.
@@WarlockX4If you actually listened to the reason why he's on Punks side, you will know
I love that Jim can just point out multiple times that this has happened worst/more violently and still ended with people being able to do their jobs.
I love Cornette. It's a shame that he's had to watch the thing he loves devolve into a farce. Nevertheless, getting his take on any given week's shitshow is so entertaining that it gives you a flash of the old magic. When he gets fired up and rattles off an impromptu promo it's always captivating. There'll never be another guy who has Jim's camera presence, foolproof psychology, encyclopaedic knowledge of the business, creative mind and natural ability to speak. I'm laughably uncoordinated, but if I was a pro wrestler I'd want Jim Cornette as my manager.
Damn Right!
I think its because im not a hardcore wrestling fan and i have a life outside of watching wrestling twice a week. But this whole crucifixion on Punk has been embarrassing. You cant sit their and complain about Punk always being in the media and blame that on him when the only reason hes always in the media is because said media know they can make bank off of lying about him.
There are people in AEW who want to see it grow and succeed and reach a larger audience and then there's a group that wants it to stay PWG with a TV deal. The latter is the Elite's side.
Cornette is 100% right about this. The kids wanna act tough, but when the adults throw down, they act like scared kids.
Punk has zero fighting skills. Has never beat up anyone.
Punk might have failed in MMA but from all the reports it seems like him and ace steel won
He was literally in the UFC
@@jerrythomas4457 your just mad the bucks and omega got there ass kick
@@carloscolon3331 I couldn’t care less about those queers. I’m just saying Punk has zero fighting skills. This is pretend fighting with a bunch of chanting cucks in the audience
Nothing Jim Cornette said was controversial. The only people who see as controversial all those who follow Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks like puppies following their mother. What he said was all professional. I don't think Kenny and the Young Bucks know the meaning of the word professional.
As the old saying goes, there are 2 sides of the story, obviously the brats are liars.
And I see why Cody left AEW
Cornette having a controversial view of something? I don't believe it! He always plays it so safe and is so mindful of people's feelings! 😂 He's the best and as usual, he's spot on
He’s been spot on about the EVP’s and the bs
For years!
Almost like he’s been in the wrestling business for 5 decades and knows what the people he trusts say about them.
The fact that people at all defend the childish unprofessional elite that have never been on mainstream tv before over cm punk who’s handled mainstream fame for YEARS
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED A LONG TIME AGO IF TK COULD CONTROL HIS WRESTLERS. punk would have never have had to take matters in his own hands if the Kahn had nuts.
Punk should never take matters in his own hands he’s a worker not a boss he works for tony khan he’s not the gm or the vp he’s just a worker a wrestler why should punk have to take control and he doesn’t have a right idk what in your mind makes you believe that
@@tyleryoung9384 obviously he thought he could from the way Tony acts. He clearly been taken advantage of by lack of authority and knowledge of the business.
Tony needs to stand up for himself but Brooks has always been a toxic narcissist, Khan’s weak which is why Brooks knew he could get away acting like he has
Tony "the Kid" is as smooth as a Ken Doll. Vince used to brag that he's got Grapefruit!!
Tony has at least 5 guys in the back that have him over a barrel and I think it's showing here. He made 3 of them EVPs and they probably have some actual power, and then there's Moxley and Jericho who have power by proxy of having a boatload of fans. The five of them have him cucked. Bryan Danielson could be another one but I don't really see him as that kind of guy.
Gotta love Jim. I love listening to him
Addictive, and I hated him in the 80s.
Cornette is literally 1000% correct about this whole situation.
Cm punk sexually assaulted a wrestler in 2003.
no he is not , cuz megha was in the roam already , come on people if this shit was fair punk and ace were out and with a big law suit
eh? he got almost everything about the fight wrong:
- punk didn't actually mean what he said about coming to find him.
- the bucks burst into his dressing room.
- ace steel wasn't in the room at the time and didn't do anything at all.
- the head of legal rushed into the room (the head of legal and HR went in with them).
@@frootloop4149 Bucks never burst into Punks locker room that was a lie made up by Punks camp and wym Ace Steel didn’t do anything at all he literally threw a steel chair at one of the Bucks face which resulted in him getting put in a chokehold by Omega and then he bit Omega on the arm and we know this is true because a week after Brawl Out it was a picture of Omega with bite marks on his arm in Japan
@@frootloop4149 And what you mean Punk didn’t mean what he said 😭😭😭 dude literally said “If anyone has a problem with me come find me you know where I’m at” lmaooo and that’s exactly what The Elite did 🤣🤣🤣 don’t put that energy out there if you can’t take it
If only Cornette could give us his own wrestling show with his own selected talent.
I'd pay for that stuff
How old were you when Corny owned Smokey Mountain??
@@williammitchell4417 Smokey Mountain was actually really good, they put on a lot of talent, made Jeff Jerrett a household name, put together the Gangsters, and basically became a secondary promotion for the WWF. They just didn't have the money to become a proper 3/4th promotion in wrestling, they didn't have a TV deal, and they were openly blocked in the south by WCW because they didn't want the competition in what they perceived to be their territory.
@@christophermarang.3569 absolutely. Corny brought new talent into the business. Some of whom could have good careers. Not confusing with OVW. But Jim even gave Vince or WCW people somewhere else to work and for some to get the ring rust off so to speak.
@@williammitchell4417 I wasn't even born. Thats why I'm crying out loud.
@@frizzyrascal1493sucks for you little kid cause it was awesome
Corny the goat 🐐
What is the controversial part of his opinion? Jim's outlook on this situation is just straight common sense.
Apparently it's "controversial" that he's on Punk's side.
When common sense is controversial, that tells you something about the state of wrestling today.
@@Billinois78 You hit the nail on the head right there! Modern wrestling and common sense doesn't seem to mingle with each other very often. Too many clueless marks on both sides of the guardrail these days.
About time people realised that Punk isn't the bad guy here and that it's all a narrative being driven by Meltzer and his favourite wrestlers.
Jim is one of the few people that has actually supported Punk through this entire mess and has given facts and logical responses about this entire ordeal.
Anyone with a working brain knows Punk was right. Unfortunately that seems to be rarer and rarer these days.
@@MrItzreal Not only that, Jim has been pointing out this behavior from the cucamunga kids for like 3 years I think, saying that over time more stories would break out.
This made as much noise as it did because the tree house clashed with the ultimate "fuck around/find out" guy
Look, I will support CM Punk to the end of time! I just got Collision tickets just for him but if he ain’t in that show I’m selling them right back. I want to point out something. I do agree that Punk shouldn’t have said those things in the scrum but if there’s someone to blame is Tony Khan. Tony should’ve put his foot down when the rumors of colt cabana happened or when Hangman went into business for himself on that promo but Tony FAILED TO STOP IT THEN. So, since Tony couldn’t be a boss, Punk had to handle it himself.
Well, 3 vice-presidents and Megha (2nd face in company, only Tony himself higher when here) rushing into your room. Who you need to blame?
There is absolutely NOTHING controversial about Cornette's opinion here. It's the most sound and objective opinion that you can get on this subject.
Uncle Jim speaking facts again
Punk is AEW'S biggest draw and the elite come off as jealous to me. People argue that punk shouldn't have said what he did publicly, but nobody can dispute what he said
And the owner of the company was sitting RIGHT THERE as Punk said it… Khan could have put a stop to the rant anytime. And didn’t. So, whose responsibility was it, ultimately?
This.
I mean yeah you can really, nobody even knew for sure it was the elite who said anything. Not only that even if it was Punk is so focused on the dirt sheets and so focused on things that don't matter he will drag it down. If the EVPs said those things and leaked stuff they're wrong 100% and shouldn't have. Even then Punk just beat Mox clean at a PPV and unprovoked by anybody whatsoever and no questions asked to him Punk freaks out and flips out about some dirt sheet rumors and puts the company in turmoil for months. Just think about it. Hardly any issues before Punk got there. Then no issues till Punk starts reading dirt sheets, then look at it like this, hangman goes into business and was wrong for that for sure. Punk gets a clean win yet again over the top champion who was hangman and then that wasn't enough. Punk even tho he is "professional" goes out after taking his title and buries him on live tv. So we get past that and now we hear a new report every other day about some Punk drama. Not the elite, not hangman, not anybody but Punk and a little about TK. Why is it that CM Punk is tied to every drama filled Bs crapshoot report? Punk either grows up and stops getting upset about dirt sheets or he leaves that's it. If Punk isn't the problem why do they have to create a brand new show splitting talent in half to each because people don't wanna work with him. That's not just the elite by the way. They don't want to either but reports say a lot of the locker room doesn't like him. At the end of the day all of this is happening for the most part because of Punk. At least 75-80 percent of the blame is on Punk. Hangman deserves a little bit, omega and the bucks even less than that, and TK the most aside from Punk. Jim is not unbiased I can't believe I'm seeing that in these comments it's crazy
@@brianboazoI have to agree that Cornette is completely biased, buuuuut....... You can say Punk should have never gone off at the scrum, and I'd agree. To me, it wasn't even so much about what Punk was saying, but the fact that he absolutely humiliated Tony there. That alone is a fire-able offense as far I'm concerned, but Punk didn't go and kick in the Buck's dressing room door. They went after him. Punk started a battle of words, but the EVPs took it to the next level. To me, that escalation far outweighs any mean things Punk might've said.
@@brianboazo Lol that response could not have been worse.. you're obviously an elite fan by everything you said.. bias opinion.. I've also seen way more reports that say the locker room is dominantly in favor of punk and his return as we have gotten further and further from that press conference and the true facts started coming out lol 😂 you completely disregarded how the bucks attacked punk in his own locker room getting his door kicked in.. lol talk about bias man.. wow..
The problem was going to be that the Saturday would've had better ratings with Punk than Dynamite with the Elite.
Who doesn’t love him being honest? It’s gold
Never thought i would agree with Cornette but he is right, im not a big fan of Punk but Jim is right here.
Love or hate him, its dumb to deny the immense knowledge the guy has for every in an out of wrestling. He just loves it so much, any sign of disrespect towards it immediately gets his tongue lashings
Considering the boondoggle that is AEW, Jim is right about all of it. A federation terrorized by a bunch of immature children, led by a billionaire child.
AEW Should bring CM Punk Back he's the biggest star they could get they need to grow a set and put him on Collison this show is dead without him what's the purpose of this show if punk isn't there They're just saying this show is dead without Punk and we need him back.
"Look on my plate. What do you see ? The Cult of Meat with Extra Cheese" - Jim Cornette
Boiled or fried
The cow must die 🐄
Thanks I had just gotten this out of my head after hearing it the other day 😂
Broiled or fried...the cow must die
@@traverschandler952 I thought it was the other way around. But still a great line.
This aged amazingly well. Jim was right all along.
Cornette is just the best!
This isn't controversial. This is straight facts
clickbait title
Its the one thing Ill give props to vince (in his prime for) he could mostly get his guys no matter the ego to do the story.
This is the biggest test of AEW entire history, can the big wrestlers set their egos aside to tell the story, make money and take AEW to the next level?
Given that AEW is mostly run by guys who think theyre more over than they really are, feel like they have noting to learn from vets, and a billionares kid who got to have his inheritance early so he could play promoter, i doubt any of them really have any sense of generating money, attracting new fans and growing their business.
Vince let Shawn Michaels and his buddies run roughshod over the entire company during Michael's first main event run.
You've finally reached the point where Tom Hanks can play you :)
Sorry but Corny's better than Tom. Corny doesn't need a script.
If Tony was an actual boss this wouldn’t have been anything close to the situation it is today
Ever since the leaks started even before All Out, it was obvious that there were people in that locker room that simply didn't want Punk there and would bully him out one way or another. If you found yourself on the Elite and Jericho's side of this battle at anytime, you were cheering for the villain. No matter what you think of Punk, he stood up for himself while others were trying to screw with him. That is admirable.
This all started with Punk screwing with Colt's job though. Things escalated after Punk started getting a piece of his own medicine.
@@mimoe7587 No it did not. Tony Khan even admitted that Punk had nothing to do with Colt being off tv. In fact, Colt was primarily off tv even before Punk showed up. All of this started when the elite were under the assumption that Punk was responsible for Colt being taken off tv, didn't ask Tony Khan if that was the truth or not, went into business for themselves on tv and leaked info to Meltzer. Even if you don't like Punk, Punk was not the instigator in this situation.
@@jthom0027 Tony was clearly lying to get more hugs out of Punk. The way he treated Colt still came back to haunt him regardless.
Punk turned on a life long best friend for doing the same thing he did a few weeks ago, visit friends backstage in WWE.
So basically Tony Khan’s lack of capability is again the root cause of the issue
Turns out being a Mark doesn't actually qualify a person as a booker.
The Jacksons got their ass whipped.. thats the only reason why it's an issue. This is about their pride. Omega and Punk have already squashed it.
Best comment ever
We live in this bizarro world of modern "sensibilities" where our celebrities are expected to conduct themselves like saints. That's why something like this gets blown up and handled awkwardly.
I love Cornette. Lmao so funny and he makes it all make sense.
I agree with Jim. I'm not Pro Elite or Pro CM. Since the beginning of the conflict I know as a person if you start shit with someone to begin with you cant be surprised when you catch a receipt. Then if you come to jump somebody & catch another receipt that's your own fault. CM is just responding as it comes to him and not holding his tongue. You dont have to like the guy in order to understand that. The problem is people let their fandom invade the real truth of just leave the guy alone and stay in your lane. In this latest drama its about honoring your word after a deal has been made.
Jim may be bias against the elite, but he is completely right. Punk may be no saint in this matter but he had legit gripes against management and it all starts with how inept Tony is at dealing with conflicts and being a boss. It also is true that the dirt sheets have done nothing but drag Punks name through the mud and it seems like any time something positive comes out about Punk, Meltzer who is buddies with the Elite (they named a move after the guy) and Alvarez (who apparently grudges on Punk because punk dare date some one he liked) have to create some new story about Punk being the worse.
This pic of Corny got him looking like JBLs Dad 😂
Truth. The angle naturally drew heat and Tony Khan and the EVP's decided they don't wanna make money on it. They aren't Pro Wrestling savvy. Or professional by any standards.
As much as people don’t like Jim Cornette, he is the only one giving unbiased opinions that actually make since. AEW should pop they head out they ass and let him book or whatever.
Glad someone gets it. Tried to listen to Solomonster's take on this, and it was so indicative of the pussifued mindset of the modern smark that I cringed.
Solomonster showed his true colors as an Elite dck rider
What's controversial about this? He speaks logic.
Obviously Tony Khan hired back Ace Steel and told Punk he can work Collision TV. Then, the whiny evps found out and whined and Tony decided to give half and half. Which, just pissed everyone involved off. Good for Punk. Can't wait for Punk to dethrone Roman at WrestleMania next year! Ha.
You can kind of think if you were in a workplace and a dude was rehired after getting fired for biting people, because of nepotism to keep a big moneymaker happy, you'd be thinking you want to get the hell out of that job, and be considering suing the company for creating an unsafe work environment. But if that was the case then the Elite and Punk would be getting fired and staying that way too. So if we're already operating a business where you keep people on staff that had a fist fight, there's nothing uniquely egregious about Ace Steels behaviour and he has just as much right to be there as anyone else. If anything the Elite probably have more grounds to be fired because they're supposed to be in management.
Andrade got a paycheck to not appear on TV after assaulting Sammy. TK told him he wouldn't have to work and he'd still get a paycheck if he punched a guy he had beef with.
In Punk's situation, the people involved were the "EVP's" and a member of the AEW legal team who told the bucks and kenny that they wouldn't get in trouble if they burst into his locker room. See if you can spot the differences and the clear bias that TK has towards his employees that he thinks are his friends.
AEW should hire Jim Cornette as a heel manager. The heat from the AEW fanbase would be insane.
That's why they had Dan Lambert 😂
Cornette won't work for these clowns
Not quite the same thing, but this is reminding me of Dan Maloney. When he was playing for the Detroit Red Wings he got into a fight during a game in Toronto against a Maple Leaf player whom he beat so brutally the city of Toronto looked into pressing charges. Toronto fans hated him... right up until he was traded to the Leaf and suddenly he was a fan favorite.
It's my first time hearing Jim with a profanity censor and it's absolutely hilarious
This aged well 😂
The more i see this situation gets worse, the more entertaining it becomes 😂and the “Heaven is a Wednesday Night” song becomes true everyday regarding AEW fans😂
The fans grew up and became wrestlers instead of men… they know nothing of true conflict or struggle. Wrestling needs its balls back
They needs punk period work it out like adults
Jim Cornette is right i dont see how a reasonable adult can blame CM Punk
It was pretty clear how Cody interacted (more evident by how he didn't interact) with certain people and eventually left. There are severe issues involving the supposed EVPs and Tony wants to be buddies with everyone (and smoke their weed, thanks for that Swole 😆.)
My opinion, Cody vs Dustin has still been the best match produced by AEW (though credit the Runnels more for that) followed by nearly all the dog collar matches. Just look at who was involved in those matches versus who is being shown prominently on TV. Rare exception is the Darby vs MJF match from Full Gear. Darby and MJF are the exception to the youth league in AEW and are beyond the curve right now.
Point is, talent is constantly pushed in all the wrong ways in often poorly gimmicked matches (i.e. exploding death match 😆.) Talent is built short term and promptly butchered constantly. MJF is the only real star and wouldn't blame him if he left.
Biggest problem, aside from administrative, is all the dirt sheet "leaks" or info based on "undisclosed sources" forcing public criticism from backstage. These shenanigans never would've happened (on this scale) 20+ years ago.
What happened to ability to conceal secrecy (i.e. Jon Huber's situation) and degenerate to this bullsh!te?!
Just tired of it and not spending anymore extra money until it gets straightened out.
Hot garbage with dirt sheets adding more fuel to it constantly. Am just too old for this juvenile crap, yet want it to be more professional.
Sorry dammit, enjoy the day.
I’m thinking about every locker room fight that has occurred, except for Nailz choking Vince I can’t think of one where they didn’t squash it enough that they could still work together, or at least share a locker room.
Look on my plate, what do you seee, the cult of meat with extra cheese
Tony thinks that with time this thing will go away and everybody will forget and forgive. Take it for what it's worth, but as a person that has managed people who were very important to the company and had big egos and lines were crossed...you have to lay down the law right away. These are the boundaries and this is how it's going to be and expect them to act accordingly.
If you don't, they'll never forgive and forget. They'll constantly be fighting to have the 'last laugh' and pulling all sorts of passive-aggressive bullshit and sabotage. It will just make things more stressful for you and divide your workforce. As long as your expectations and boundaries are reasonable, the one that can't respect those expectations and boundaries is the one that needs to go.
Are we getting a full version of this convo or what
All these episodes of JCE I always see Jim as a youngster with a tennis racket flaming everyone, then I see this thumbnail. Damn boys we are getting old
Finally we have a different perspective of the issue, i was very tired of the same side using the observer PR
This perspective has been available since the get go.
this is why vince is a savage , he gets it wrong sometimes but u cannot let the inmates run the asylum
TK needs to be a boss
What part about this is "CONTROVERSIAL" ? 😂😂
Little did we know. Cornette was right all the time. Even hearing this right now its so fucking obvious but still AEW fanboys were blindfold and repeat the same thing '"Cm punk is a toxic person", like a bunch of sheeps.
Many wrestling legends or even producers of the business are on Punk's side. But y'll are telling me that a bunch of bootleg EVPs are the heroes of the situation? HA!
Jim Cornette is a national treasure
All the "he was so unproffesional" bullshit aside tell me when punk told lies
Quoting Chicago Made :
"The most important thing is to not let into the thought , thats its Us vs Them"
😮 This is Punk vs The EVP'S issue , and everyone else besides the boss should just let them resolve their stuff , and not let more oil onto the frying pan.
If Khan brings Punk back and gets a great rating, then what next? It's going to be another Rampage. AEW have cooled off so many guys that there's nobody to pop a rating.
At least it'll be lacking in flippy spotfests for those of us still watching ig
If MATT HARDY AND EDGE COULD WORK TOGETHER THERE IS NO REASON KENNY OLIVIA can't work with punk. Think about that!! Edge was f*****g matt Hardys girlfriend while he was at home healing a broken neck
How many beeps were in this clip...?
CM Punk was the only cool thing happening in AEW, without him that company is another indy promotion.
“how would twitter react to shawn michaels in 97”
This is not very controversial. Especially since Cornette walks through his thought processes.
When was this recorded? He said it's the 27th I think but we're just getting into 23rd
Seems like a completely logical opinion. What's controversial?
He's about the only one not relying on Tony's paycheques so he doesn't just automatically take the Elite's side. Somehow the non-biased are the controversial these days.
The only people saying it’s controversial are the ones who jerk off to omega and the bucks,
The fact of the matter is, this situation has happened countless times in the business historically. 9 times out of 10 everyone was able to work it out and do business. Tony VOLUNTARILY gave up power in these situations and allows Kenny, the Bucks, and Punk to run wild. The people in the wrong are Kenny, The Bucks, and Punk. Tony’s complete inability to manage is why it’s that way.
I wish Jim could book the new AEW show and pick the Talent roster.
It would be a disaster
@@jaredgarrison333 In comparison to what we get every single week... We found the young buck's mark.. You gotta be under the age of twenty five
@@kbsjudgmentroom6154 39 and prolly make more money than 7 or 8 of you combined. I don’t like aew or the bucs. I can just be objective and don’t act like some loser fan boy and believes their favorite wrestler should accept no blame and I don’t drink punks cum on a nightly bases like many of you do.
I think the timing of the Ace Steel stuff is really disrespectful. "Whoever" brought up the issue knew that this would be the perfect time to cause the most trouble.
They need him to grow the company hopefully they can work it out for better of aew 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
They’re not growing anything. Their first few episodes with him back will be elevated but then they’ll taper off
Big picture regarding the whole backstage fight...we've heard just as bad or worse happening backstage in WWE during the attitude era and before...and they shrugged it off and kept making money.
Never thought I'd agree with him but he's absolutely right
Speaking facts!
As usual Cornie is absolutely right!
Hire chicagos CP Munk instead
Cornette is on point here
I was honestly shocked that people were just so outraged by what Punk and The Elite did like Punk hasn't had locker room confrontations before. It's wrestling, a business fueled by money, ego, and testosterone and you're expecting diplomacy? Could it have been handled differently without it getting physical? Of course. But don't be surprised when it doesn't. Even when I was a ref on the indies it happened. Once again, it's wrestling.
The 'legal representative' Megha or whatever her name is, should've been the first to let go. Showed complete incompetence of her role by letting those 3 into Punk's locker room in such heated climate in her presence. But of course she is a long time professional acquaintance of the Khans, so nothing will come out of it
Only two ways it should have went down. The corperate way, everyone involved gets fired. And the professional wrestling way, they make an angle out of it and everyone gets paid. Everything else is someone messing up.
give the editor a raise!
Sorry, but Jim Cornette ist just the smartest Voice in Wrestling. Thats a fact.