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Let’s keep it a Buck, streamers ruined every game not just Tarkov.
I think game early access games being normalized ruined gaming. Plenty of fantastic games out there.
It's normal for streamers to ruin games. They push games for the self's not the majority
The fun portion of finding out how to play the games have went away. When you can look every single quest up or task.
No your just bad at games. You will never be as good as Nadia, the greatest gamer to ever live
Streamers and Pros
Boss hunting could be so much better if they would introduce a mechanic of summoning them in raid, by doing specific actions such as shooting flares, pushing buttons, placing jammers etc etc. this way if you are boss hunting there is a way for you to spawn the boss into the raid while also being part of the raid and not just leaving after a few minutes.
Every map should have its own boss spawn "ritual" that involves certain actions around the map.
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have fun getting run over by player scavs lol
I will camp it, and cheaters will farm it consistently, but still better than what we have i think
This is actually a cool ass idea!
@@janpapaj4373 it will be just like camping every other POI in the map. The more points of interest you have the less effective camping becomes
BSG simply doesn’t respect the players time
You can just stop at players. BSG doesn’t respect players
So true
@@artemroy9365 this
You could say we are truly unheard
imagine a videogame company wanting to milk as much time out of you in their videogame as possible, crazy idea, imagine if other popular AAA games did that, it would all be over
These 3 problems make me not want to play the game the most.
-Cheaters (especially on Streets) -I couldn't even get audit done because I was killed in the first 2 minutes by 12hour accounts with no armor and 30KD, I gave up after losing 2 of my best kits by cheaters back to back. High KD accounts have to be live monitored 24/7. Just get some kids from the community to do it for free.
-Stability issues. FPS and server issues. After doing the said 2 full kit raids, I decided "F it" grabbed my last MP5 and wore nothing for the ultimate challenge, I was losing all my gear to cheaters anyway. About 8 minutes into the raid I get "SERVER CONNECTION LOST" error and whenever I reconnect I get the same message and it boots me out. After a few tries I believe someone just ended my suffering bc it said "Session has ended or cancelled" error. An hour and a half from my life was gone. I seriously believe people who cheat have some psychological issues or they have been neglected as a child. Also optimize the game getting 60FPS with high end is not acceptable.
-THIS GAME IS A HUGE WASTE OF TIME. Waiting for game to launch, profile page to load, adjusting a loadout for the raid and clicking start raid can take like 10 minutes in itself, add to that you will be matching for 7 minutes is HUGE deterrent when playing a game. Only to die to a cheater, İt makes you feel dumb and wonder, why is it like this? Adjusting all the space in my standard account is also hell while people can just open their wallet and have like 7 times the space I have in the first day of the wipe, as well as a huge secure container. You know that 4 slot alpha container thing also adds to the preperation bc when you need to take something extra to raid as a quest requirement, you need to take the meds in you SC and shuffle them around your inventory. Standard edition in particular is designed to just be a one big timesink, and then they thought about making it worse by giving premium editions "priority matching", this is a big joke. From opening the game to actually playing it will take about 20 mins at least. In that time in war thunder I'm already ending my first game.
We don't need new stuff please, just fix what is broken. We need faster matching and easier stash management, better servers that won't boot you out, better FPS, no cheaters. Just fix this and many people won't quit out of rage and migrate to SPT.
Get The PVE Version, seriously.... It is a blast, and your friends who have it can join your PVE raid, too. And make sure that you are selecting YOUR area, so that match-times are faster. And you don't drop out as much. If you are not, and selecting a server across the globe, you will drop out.
@georgiaskywatchersnetwork-7268 the problem with PVE is that its 2 easy, and you dont get the satisfaction of knowing you ruined someones day after killing them
Download SPT and play it untill you know what youre doing man...
Well yeah, it's a good Strat to make money, stash space was worth every penny not playing Tetris lol.
@@SomeRandomGuy121 why would anyone go back to the cheaters after trying SPT ?
The cheater bit, just remember, The Wiggle has proven that at minimum; there's a 60% chance that there is at least ONE cheater in your raid, I'm certain that number is probably higher because how prevalent cheating is in the game, and how often people will resort to after they finally get tired of dying to cheaters and players in the top 5%.
Play PvE
it hasn't proven that. we haven't seen any numbers or anything, we only can assume because g0at didn't actually take statistics about how many raids and how many of them had cheaters in it. the "chance" could even seem like more to try to get BSG to do something more about it, because of the true number was lower, they might not take action or people won't see it as bad if it isn't a drastic number.
also, doubtful many people get tired and start cheating. they just switch games. to cheat, the prices are 100-200+ dollars.
@@hauntingthegraveplay a better game and let tarkov die
@@hauntingthegrave stop cheating
The wiggle video didn’t prove shit, the fact that you believe that there’s a cheater in 60% of raids is laughable. If those numbers were true then goat would have shown the data, but he refused and gave bad reasoning as to why he did. The video brought needed attention to the cheating issue at the time but there is no evidence for the numbers claimed in the video, except the word of a UA-camr who is known for sensationalizing stories and stretching the truth. That video did so much damage to the mentality of the playerbase and made many people far more paranoid than before regarding cheaters.
It kinda feels like BSG wants to keep streamers playing Tarkov for as long as possible for the free advertisement by nerfing everything it takes to finish the game
That’s what I have said for a long time. They want to keep the streamers happy to keep the good publicity. When the streamers cry about something it instantly gets changed to make sure the streamer has nothing to cry about and make the game look bad.
it wasnt completely free, the ones that have sacrificed the most time eventually got streamer items in game lmao
what the new generation of gamers dont understand is streamers arent advertising anything and are actually hurting the gaming space rather than helping it grow. every streamers chat is filled with people who arent playing this wipe cuz they are wimps lol
Yep, the longer those viewer numbers stay high the better in their eyes is clearly the motive here.
Or maybe they want to slow the game down when the game is released so it takes more between wipes so they can have more time to add more polished stuff.
playing this game 8-12hrs a day sounds like torture. casual players can't park here m8.
No, if u a are ture beliver marine ... this is your canon :D
That is why he does 4 hour shifts on mid to end wipe
I do 5 hours monday to friday, and 12~15 hours ou saturday and sunday, i only playing Tarkov past 2 and 1/2 years.
@@caiotavares1473how is your brain not fried
@@caiotavares1473 Do you benefit from playing a little more frquently like that ? I havent played tarkov in soooo long lol
What an absolute marine this man is, he speaks the actual truth.
I miss old Tarkov 😢
and he still is part of the problem he just removed himself as a target for people like you...
HE IS THE PROBLEM
My one true factual science backed up statement: If you make loot more scarce the RMTers make more money.
I used to love playing PVP Tarkov.
But the moment i started doubting every death and every player if they were legit or not, that is when it stopped being fun for me. Because of how rampant the cheating problem has been the past years.
Players have no idea if they were killed by legit players or not. And imo that is one of the biggest issues this game has.
you can see blatant cheaters with Unheard edition accounts that get 150 KD in 30 raids with 300 hours and already lightkeeper achievements (actually true; i have a screenshot lmao) that still haven't been banned.
Not only that but when you try to voice your concern about the cheating you get a bunch of hardons who, let's be honest, are probably cheaters since they probably nearly outnumber legit players, trying to make you look ridiculous. I think I quit like late 2022 so I don't know what it's like now but I doubt it's any better.
That calls skill issue brother
@@IIIUPUK its been confirmed that at least 60% of raids contain at least 1 cheater. stfu
Tbh, you are proving that it is the MENTALITY that has ruined it for you.
Ever since Goats video, which btw was very unscientific and proved nothing, it put a creeping doubt in the minds of players.
I have found that the reason I can still have so much fun in Tarkov is I literally don’t think about cheaters unless I get obviously killed by one.
I have some discord friends that question EVERYTHING. Every death. Every piece of loot that “should have been there”… everything.
I can tell you for an absolute fact that he is wrong most of the time.
That mentality of questioning every death will ruin the game for you.
If you are playing NA servers, there is absolutely not a cheater in every raid, or every other raid, or in every 3 raids. It’s just not true.
If it were, they would kill me. I run good gear. They would want it.
I can’t speak on other country’s servers.
@SaltySicilian that's true.Goats video is just a crap to be honest.I only question players who are less than 500 hrs,and doing some sus things,like only hs or some fast peeks and shooting instant hs.Currently these people killing me like in 30% of the times.So lets say,for 474 raid I have been killed 174 times and only ~50 of these deaths were sus.But of,not all of them were cheaters.Lets say again only 50% of these 50 were cheaters.Then we having number of deaths by cheater each 19 raid
A healthy solution would be if BSG uses "bosses ruin early wipe with their loot" excuse would be to LITERALLY REDUCE THE GEAR the have at early wipe, killa having his quest item being the helmet but instead "forgetting" his armor and AP ammo and taking a regular 6B13 and RPK being loaded with 5.45 PP or take his PP-19 or AKMS instead, making bosses still spawn regularly but not "ruining the progression with gear"
Like Tagilla used to wear a strandogg rig more than 50% of the time because people "farmed" him
Give every boss progressive GEAR instead of progressive CHANCE over the wipe
Make it 25-30% early wipe and worse boss and guard gear, but mid-late wipe make it 40-50% and give back the regular gear
If only BSG implemented cool ideas like this from the community
@@xipleadthe5ththey did it in the past, mb chances wasnt very high but killa had shitty lvl 4 armor, same for tagilla, guess what, no one liked that, they reverted that
@@xipleadthe5th this suggestion was like written by me long time ago but bsg doesn't care, they don't work at the game, they just simulate work, do bare minimum and print money
Uppon killing them their gear could just be broken beyond usable, if the gear really is a problem.
@@Aruhito_0 Well that's a terrible idea.
Imagine making changes that help normal players with normal lives who make up the vast majority of your customers instead of making changes that help streamers who play the game for living. Crazy idea.
Honestly… his 2 examples, arena and scav runs are his justification as to why boss spawn rate should be increased… cause they’re “broken”. Although I do agree with making bosses spawn more frequent as it adds a dynamic to a raid that can be fun, this is not the way to go about that… complaining about mechanisms that benefit the vast majority.
No, they are NOT your customers. They are your workers. They work for you by playing the game. How is that? Ez. They are eather: 1 - targets for streamers who invite new players and promote arcade-ish gameplay so that leads us to 2nd task - being fodder or clients for cheaters and RMT respectively who get banned, buy new account and bring money. Sorry, but regular player is not a client for BSG, he is a worker who brings new clients
They aren't changing the game to help the streamers, they are changing the game to "hurt" the streamers not realizing that it's just a small obstacle that 99% of the good players can hurdle instantly. Certain streamers and the devs have been trying to nerf my playstyle (fast Wkey aggressive PVP) for a long time and it doesn't work... Maybe they should help the ones that suck more at becoming better Tarkov players instead of focusing on nerfing all of us.
@@Hachiko814How would they make people who suck at Tarkov better exactly?
@@yevheniibodnar9008 Dark take but kind of true lol. Problem with it is if the game was better Id be happy to give them more money for dlc and from microtransactions.
thought it was gonna be some yap but youve got such a good point. They are nerfing the stuff only achievable by the top players and assuming thats how everyone plays. However in reality all they are doing is negatively effecting the rest of the 99.9% of the people for almost no reason at all.
I blame you for that as well. This is something I have fought with the community about since the game started and everyone I came in contact with wanted the game to be me more hardcore. It was not just the top 1% but even the casual wanted the game harder and harder because they lacked the foresight to understand what that would do. It was not until after the game became a 1% playground and so disgustingly gatekept did the community’s tone change. I don’t blame BSG or the streamers for what the game has become I blame the community as whole.
they know that. But they just have to do it.
Tarkov was initially supposed to be more tactical, slow-paced game. Like a squad or arma, just more focused on CQC.
But streamers come and ask to make this game into Call of Duty. And developers cant say "No". Those streamers bring attention to the game, brings more players, brings more money. Which are crucial for developers to continue making it.
Similar thing happened to Rainbow Six Siege. It was supposed to be like a SWAT PvP game. That turned out.. wel... turned out...
It is a yap, yeah, they cater to top 1% players, he didn't have to blabber for 26 minutes to express that
@@stanislav_skorobogatov he gave examples of how, then gave possible solutions. He did not just complain for 20 minutes. Someone never learned how to properly right an argumentative paper.
Good point for casuals that can't use their brain, yes, classic brainrot
We’re not even a month into wipe and I’ve only died to lvl 40+
and low level hackers, with guns that have no stock, 1 tap headshots. And bad audio making certain situations tough to dissect and etc...
I quit the game after 4k hours 3 wipes ago, where i was stupid using the found in raid ledx not for the quest instead for the hideout. Okay my mistake, than i went to a usual woods raid found a ledx, got killed by a cheater. took some days of came back and found another one after several raids. When i got it i put in my secure container and sneaked very slowly towards the extract. Raid was already very quiet and i had alot of trees and unflat terrain in all directions, suddenly i got shot from far away true all the trees while running zigzag. Every hit was a hit in chest, again and again and again and again until i finally died. Guy messaged me after and told me to not take ledx´s and put them in my secure container, he is going for people who do this.
Yeap that was the point where i lost the last bit of fun in the game and never looked back. Still enjoying to watch some content tbh but i dont see me playing it again.
As a Standard I can only agree the changes devs make to slow down streamers and nolifers affect me the most, like the FiR for Hideout upgrade
I think the stash upgrades for standard players are extortionate I’m so sorry
@@opticalsalt2306 thx for your compassion mate
@@opticalsalt2306yeah the stash size for a standard account is absolutely absurd. Almost feels like a troll by BSG
Same here for me the biggest torture is getting access to high level traders.
I'm not a streamer but already at lvl47,haven't got most of HO yet.
You don't even need hideout if you have many time to play and do tasks without them so FiR requirment for HO only affects casuals.
I don't need crafts,exp boosts,heal over time,gym when I already have advantage over most players by playing more.
HO allows ppl with less time to progress faster.
My favorite thing is getting a daily to kill a boss 3 times for a pack of Marlboros when I’m lucky to see any boss once in a week of casual play
yooo for real lol
you can reroll tasks i genuinely don’t get why you’re crying
@@SaltSpiritsgenuinley don't know why you thought your comment was intelligent. what if you don't have a reroll? it's still a dumb quest regardless.
@@SaltSpiritsthey’re making a valid point. You’re the one crying over nothing
@@SaltSpirits ooooof brother, that sunk cost fallacy is hitting you harrrd huh?
Well argued. The devs trying to limit the streamers ends up simply removing content from the game for the average players. FIR Hideout... great, so when am I supposed to find the time to grind for 30 ES lamps? Now I can't engage with the hideout properly this wipe.
Make scaving for items a higher priority.
now consider that you need 111 es lamps overall aswell
@@jakoblinton5223 thats not that many
Consider touching grass tf@@stephenlyon1358
Another argument isnthat this can prevent people just instantly going for valuable loot areas and exploring more of the map. Now this doesnt address the people who dont have alot of time to play which sucks but it can make the game more unpredictable and engaging to play. This only works perfecrly however if there are no unpredictable bugs and cheaters to take away from that fun
Once we had the best armor hitbox system and then streamers complaint about armpit now the throat. That's how we got the old stupid armor hitbox system back.
Also forgot to mention the point , if cheaters are killing bosses to loot RMT items. By making bosses spawn more frequently, it means the demand for those RMT items drop…
Surly by making the game harder and harder to progress it pushes more and more of the casual players towards buying RMT items so that they can get past certain tasks in the game. By making the game slightly easier to progress for casual players it negates the demand for RMT items, causing less cheaters that aren’t making as much money through RMT. Obviously like most games RMT cheating will always be an issue but there are ways to make it less of a monetary valuable for the cheaters to do it…
Just my opinion
Streamers ruined EFT because of twitch drops popularizing the game, causing BSG a recieve a ton of money, and causing them to get lazy. It also absolutely destroyed the point of EFT (to be a test environment for the devs to learn about things they wanted to use in Russia 2028). Your purchase of EFT was suppose to be a crowd funded investment into Russia 2028 not a potato coded nonsense they forced EFT into. Everything since then was trying to make EFT last as long as possible to maximize profits, they know the gane will never actually be complete because it was never designed to be. EFT was not the game we all were purchasing when we all invested back in the day, we all were purchasing and investing in Russia 2028. It was also suppose to be based in realism, there is zero realism left 😂.
Touch grass
@felixorth4727 I touch more grass in a day than you've seen in your existence, including pictures of grass you've seen on the internet. I touch so much grass I'm on the grass offenders list. I touch so much grass Snoop Dog and Wiz are jealous. I do have off days though, like when I'm at your mom's house at the same time as the mailman and the milkman (don't worry I just hold the camera).
@ bro I See u subbed to asmongold you still got your v Card
@@felixorth4727 why you trying to rage bait
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With honest, transparent feedback and constructive criticism like this, it’s hard to see how BSG could ignore it. Great video, Tigz!
dont worry they will ignore it lol
It’s clouded by the fact that everything else he posts is senseless crying
@@SaltSpiritsyou’re the one having a breakdown in the comments. If you’re not a paid shill, you should seek psychiatric care.
This is why I play SPT, I control all of that. And no cheaters.
But there’s no enjoyment. There is 0 enjoyment or stakes shooting AI all day. There is no challenge because you aren’t competing against anyone or anything.
@@aquativity2907bro the AI in there is better and smarter than real ppl in the live game😂
@@aquativity2907there is enjoyment and also enjoyment in knowing my time isn’t getting wasted getting killed by a cheater or a guy who plays the game 8+ hours a day for content 🤣
@@aquativity2907bros never played Skyrim
@@aquativity2907 SAIN is an AI overhaul mod that makes them legit insane. It also makes then smarter and more human like. Now obviously nothing can compare to actual pvp but SAIN is a very fun mod. There's a clip of Klean getting shit on by a bot while using sain as the bot jumps around a car and head taps him
True take. I quit 4 wipes ago because... I had a day off and decided it is time to farm killa. It had good chance to spawn already. I used the stutter method too which worked back then (I don't know if it does now). Guess what. After 5h of running around and throwing flash grenades I finally found killa. Heard his voiceline after my grenade. Right after that I saw a speedhacker zooming in front of me, killing killa and then blasting me. Did not come back to the game since, and I was playing every wipe before that. It broke me.
Yeah i quit a while ago and just play a bit of spt now and then. Dont have time for live with the bugs and cheaters. The number of times I got killed holding a door and the enemy opens the door and shoots me and then the door opens for me while I'm hitting the ground dead, your whole squad spread out over a treeline getting one tapped to the head in 1 second by a cheater, perfect nades through windows when you barely moved since you heard them sprinting up to the building, jiggle peeking or speed hacks or just desync making people impossible to hit, streamers abusing bugs to jump through floors on stream and not getting banned, and then you still have to deal with how janky the scavs are anyway with their matrix bullet dodges, ghost bullets, ghost grenades, etc. So many other games run smooth but EFT has always been a mess.
I think bosses should sit at a really high spawn rate, like 50% the whole wipe, and it's their loot that should improve over time. Give them cheap, barely modded guns with LL1/LL2 trader ammo, class 3/4 armor, and like a single stim, or something at the start, then make it better over time until it eventually reaches meta guns, top tier ammo, semi-consistent keycards, class 6 armor, etc late wipe. Increasing the amount of guards, and quality of guard loot (for bosses that have them) over time could also be a thing.
0:50 I thought he was about to plug raid shadow legend 😂
Honestly the zoom in had me convinced of the same thing lol
or war thunder or nord vpn XD i was waiting for it like "gahh... here we go again"
im a "hardcore" gamer in this context. i have 7300+ hrs in tarkov since november 2020 and i agree with this 100%.
the "FIR" requirment boosted the cheater issue to previous levels. cheaters were less of an issue before limiting and nerfing the fleamarket. back when you could litterally buy and sell everything. i miss those days, but ofcourse BSG and streamers fucked that up and this is my biggest problem since then, i dont find it as enjoyable as it was back then.
I get the point but I think we are missing the bigger picture. BSG is the one killing Tarkov because:
- They are unable to optimize the game. A 7 years old game that needs a 2500€ computer is not something that a casual audience will embrace.
- Cheaters are everywhere and you don't even get back your equipment when you die to a cheater.
Being able to play only 2-3 raids (if lucky) per day makes the punish to die to a cheater much higher, which makes people quit or go PvE.
That is the main issue with Tarkov, anything else is secondary or just empowering this two core issues.
And this is why I switched to PVE. PVP is not for people who have lives and play other games. Havnt touched pvp since pve came out and me and my friends have been having a blast with pve but game still needs work and has a lot of issues.
Bro all 3 of those aren’t even true running tarkov is completely possible on a fairly average computer learn how to change your settings
Cheaters are few and far between at least in North America where I play I’m level 28 and have not encountered a single obvious cheater this wipe and how are you only able to run 2-3 raids a day I haven’t had a que time longer than 12 minutes all wipe even wipe day quit bitching and die less.
NGL 2500 for a pc is pretty low don't be cheap yikes it's not the 1990s smh
@@gregmaclellan2436 There isn't a single game other than DCS or a simulator that requires a PC like this. You shouldn't need a $2500 PC to run ANY fucking game made with the unity engine, ever.
You're not the target audience.
Casual players or players in general, are NOT the target audience.
Cheaters ARE the target audience.
Cheater will buy multiple accounts, while you will buy only one account. Yet, they don't complain about getting banned, while you complain that cheaters overrun the game.
Nikita is the scammer of our decade.
It's crazy cause when ppl like me mention this on socials we get torn to pieces by top streamers and their followers. Streamers have absolutely contributed to almost ALL the worst changes in Tarkov and it's not even funny.
Breaking news streamer cries about game nerf aimed at streamers
you clearly didn't watch the video or play the game. The nerf doesn't affect him or other streamers who are able to play 16 hours a day anyways, it just makes some things nearly impossible for casual players who have 4 hours max to play a day...........................
@SotEnjoyer113 i watched the video and play the game it clearly only affects him. The low spawn rate is only for the people who spam 16hours a day because no casual is needing to farm the bosses in the first few weeks when it's low spawn anyways only the 16 hours a day streamers have progresses that much
The intelligence center thing is a nice idea and makes kind of sense. You gather intelligence about the boss and it raises spawn chance. Or it could be combined to figure out which map has the highest chance or smth.
Great points mate. That why I play SPTarkov. I love Tarkov, the feel, the immersion, the maps, the gunfights, the gun modding the adrenaline. In SPTarkov I make the game what I want it to be. Season selector, insane AI compared to PvE, actual heart racing gun fights. No lag, no desync, no long loading times. Just love it. I actually ENJOY Tarkov that way. I play on my own pace and enjoy the atmosphere. Hard working as well so SPT is a blessing. I also like to give myself challenges like "don't use flea market" or only use it for hideout, use only found ammo and so on. Time and day switch mods are also insane. If Im in for a snowy raid, I do it. If I want to play in summer with a heavy rain in the sunset? I do it. SPTarkov/PvE are so great, can't praise them enough.
I got so bored with sPT’s predictability. I knew exactly when I was safe, when I wasn’t. Those gunfights all over. Real snoozer after about 10 hours
@@ThrobRossDid you try literally any of the Mods that rework the AI?
@@THEmilkboxx I was gonna say. These A.I. mods make them almost as unpredictable as real people. I still play some PvP with friends every now and then. But SPT A.I. definitely punches above it's weight.
@@ThrobRossclearly you didn’t try the mod SAIN and you didn’t try the highest difficulty settings, also very easy to configure to a difficulty that you enjoy.
is the 16 patch of spt out already?
I only play PvE now because this game has no resepect for my time. When i go home from work i don't want to play a game where i need to play 10h a day or i will be in situation that i can't even compete with other player's. That's is my biggest problem with that game, i absolutely love that game but i can't really enjoy it because i simply don't have the time to play as much to be competetive.
Tarkov isn’t about competing or comparing yourself to others, and you sure af aren’t doing any of that in pve mode
@@Jason-fy4sl Well when everything is quest locked it does matter. You HAVE to stay in the race or stay in the dust and the enjoyability literally turns to shit.
@@TboneSTEAK111 yeah i started tarkov exactly on wipe day and this is my experience
there are 2 ways of playing: you brute force quests by doing research and playing lots of hours in night raids
or you just farm item quests and wait for others to go ahead of the curve so the spots are not as contested
this particular wipe its been EVEN more sweaty because of the FIR Hideout change and no flea, now even the sweats are scavving for everything....
I really like the suggestion of putting one of the collectibles in the intel center as a way to increase boss spawn. Having something in the intel center like a "Recon" thing where it functions like a scav junkbox, but instead of them bringing back loot, they have a chance to tell you "Hey, this boss has been sighted on this map" and it gives an extra 5-10% chance for the boss to spawn on said map. Great video man.
Pretty much agree with everything. Though I wouldn't limit the maps for scavving, I would say that there should be more of a time restriction as to when you can get in. For example streets is 50min, so make it to where player scavs can only spawn in at 30 or 25 min left in the raid. There have been several times that I have gotten killed by a player scav / killed a PMC as a scav just 10 min into the raid. I feel that scavving should be that and by the time you get in its likely that most PMCs have looted and left so that you actually are looking around for the scraps like a scav would be. For the last 2-3 wipes, I have learned streets and if I don't die I always pull out 500k+ (flea prices), because I get in fairly early when the PMCs are still fighting each other.
i feel like you are one of the only people with following that actually cares about the game i love your perspective and you should make more videos like this its nice knowing its not just me
I stopped playing this game a couple of years ago because I no longer had the time to invest in it. However, I still watch streamers play occasionally. Something I’ve noticed is that they spend most of their time in the lobby or queue, which is why I’ve reduced the time I spend watching streamers.
like, more than an hour a day loading was barely worth it for the unique experience of tarkov in the past
The whole bosses spawn rate and cheaters is why I moved to pve now I have to deal with the stupid goons like 4 out of 5 raids. Lol
On the bright side you get really good at killing them once you realize they bum rush instantly
@@opticalsalt2306 i had birdeye try to knife rush me in building while i had a shotgun, why did the sniper try to go for melee? who knows i dont complain
@@opticalsalt2306 I seriously have like a 40% survival rate against those pricks. Something dumb always happens. Hell I’ve never even gotten the GL from big pipe. On shoreline I’m afraid to go anywhere near their spawn location. I always struggle against them.
@@TheRowdyyOne I always die to them on shoreline tbh if they’re at the weather station so same haha
@@opticalsalt2306 Yeah, that’s how I realized if they start shooting me in the open I’m screwed unless I can find a building to hide in, then it’s incredibly easy to just aim at a doorway, lol.
the devs scamming the loyal players is not helping as well...
It's not just tarkov streamers are ruining every game they play but honestly the streamers are not to blame it's the devs that think that streamers know better about their games and change those games according do those streamers
This problem is also the same for FIR hideout items. Streamers will have no problem finding everything with the number of raids they play but for your
average player hideout becomes out of reach
It's REALLY not that hard
I actually like not being to just buy hideout upgrades. I play PvE, though.
@@MatchlessMarx maybe the first few levels but in total its like 500+ items to find. The individual items may not be hard to find but for the average person keeping track of how many out of 77 metal parts its unrealistic and too tedious to attempt
@@MatchlessMarx also it encourages players to leave raids early with items in fear of losing them decreasing pmc interactions. Id argue that compromise would be to remove the items from the flee still allowing ppl to gamma items for their hideout. But this might fk up some crafts
@jamesdavidson46 111 ES Lamp etc is crazy but doable, will take some time tho
Honestly he has a fair point.
One of the ideas to keep the community alive is also boost loot like it was 2 wipes before. (BlackMDR Meta wipe)
The loot was very good, keys had value, you could open a room and get good loot, even quest items. IMO the loot was buffed good enough not to a point where it was broken. That’s because I’m that regular guy who doesn’t play a lot. I had enough money to play with my friends which were the hardcore chads with millions.
Yes I was losing money fast, but I was able to still make it back. Unlike these wipes when I’d die, it would feel like a total dent in my balance.
Bosses spawn rates upped it’s a must, I always end up at Gunsmith 23 and give up because whenever they spawn I either die to them or die to a cheater who simply walks in and hip fires me.
(Excluding the times I die to legitimate players.)
Audio is a constant fight with you and the enemy. I don’t want to put up with losing all my stuff just because Nikita decides to touch the audio all the time and mess it and have to get used to it just for next wipe to be messed up again.
Traders armors, they should add back all the removed items like RYS T, Altyns, Zhunks etc. even if they put them up with Lv6 plates they can make BP, 55A1, M62, etc bullets available BUT MORE Expensive in a way to have a chance to combat their armors.
Traders bullets, Just add back those bullets I’m tired of playing same weapons over and over again.
Make them available even if I have to pay more for them just to play with my favorite gun then switch to another after I die, instead of scrapping that weapon because I don’t have good bullets for it.
But as of right now, they’re probably rushing the release of the game and maybe after they will listen to us.
If the Altyn glass was as fragile as it is IRL it would be perfectly balanced. No need to remove those type of helmets from traders at all.
Loot was good but streamers had a whine about having to compete with the average player for loot spawns. Now the only good loot is locked behind rare keys most players won't have
@ Last wipe I was running resort with all the best keys, Haven’t found a Ledx, Bitcoin, or anything valuable inside the rooms. Loots was nerfed af imo last wipe.
@@JordanHarrisif it was there would be no point in running it
Put streamers into their own server pools xD
It would be like watching 2 vice clamps slamming into each other slowly
Put them in a camp
With a ferris wheel.
Imagine a game exists were you are 1200% more likely to come across a hacker then a boss fight
honestly fanboys and developers already ruined it. rip
The average player takes a month to get to level 15 and is fucking terrified of facing a boss with their paca and mosin while theyre doing their early wipe fetch quests. It's got nothing to do with farming. Most of those boss quests are later down the quest line and dont even lead to anything good. This is peak streamer brain. You HEAVILY overestimate the average player's skill level. Also not everyone is going to buy or play arena. It's stupidly unpopular.
People also forget RNG exists, I've had a few wipes were I'm lvl 15 with an empty stash surviving off of scav run loot LOL. Especially as a standard player? Jesus.
Homie just explained me to a T
He said a casual player might only have 2-3 hours a day to play. Homie, I have about 8 hours a week to play. There's shit to do after work and on the weekends. What would really improve the game for me is for extracts to be closer to spawn, at least on one map. At 8 hours/week, it takes months to even pull off a successful PMC raid on one map, trying to skirt around every spawn and then getting tracked down the moment you pick up anything of value
@@kennysiskmusic3743 brother then this game isn’t for you. It’s similar to rust in the sense, if you can’t dedicate a good chunk of time to it, you shouldn’t play it; or stick to PvE. Because you bet your ass if I hear your unsuppressed mosin, I’m hunting you down.
@@TheKing77777. Lmfao what a terminally Reddit comment, thank you for the chuckle
Brother, when I finally find and kill a boss, I'm either instantly killed OR I'm running straight to exit with that boss quest item, cuz I know for sure I won't find that boss ever again this wipe, playing 3 hours every two days.
Bosses either run up to you and let you kill them without shooting at you once or they beam you across the map.
Whether it’s easy or it’s hard it’s never fun.
Damn the video playing in the background brought back so much nostalgia. I miss 20-21 Tarkov
The no inertia made my heart yearn for what we’ve lost
I started playing just after they added inertia every time I see vids pre-inertia I become depressed. Shit looks so fun
@@Jienlee99 it was the best, i blame klean
@@Am-jb8yp Seems like klean is full of L takes
@@Jienlee99 no it wasnt. Bsg should turn off inertia just to remind how bad AD AD AD, jump spams, instant QE were + with all those desync problems...
man, i spent 12 hours farming killa spamming interchange NONSTOP and i didnt see him once. makes me just wanna quit the game...
My favorite part about being a casual player is when I finally get time to sit down for a few hours and play is being put into a lobby with level 44s as a level 15 and getting gunned down in second cause of the ammo difference.
What bothers people the most who don’t have time is having to cross check every loot you extract with to see if you’ll need it later on. Time to get into a raid is also the same old slow shit.
10min+ for a scav run. soooo true
they need sub bosses and various scav camps that all have unique vibes or positioning etc.
When you used John as an example name and listed everything about me down to the hours available to play tark 😂🤣 much love and great take on this wipe, it’s been a fun one besides the obvious issues 😭
I personally would love a mechanic where every week there’s quests that mess with certain bosses to increase their chances of spawning the next week. Like Place a signal jammer here, mark these things to get taken, plant cameras here or cut cables here. Just general stuff to mess with their operations and force them to come sort out the players the next week. And depending on how many times the quest is completed it buffs the boss chance by upto 30%
I think they should divide pvp up in 2. One pvp-fast (More loot, Boss spawns, less weight, less inertia, and less restricted traders) and the second pvp-slow (Tarkov Now) Just my thoughts :)
I think a good solution to retain players who burn out before reaching high levels or the casuals who feel unrewarded is to adjust how unlocks work. Stop locking unlocks behind trader levels and garbage quests. Maybe make it so quests increase your trader limit for ammo, armor, etc. Some wipes I would like to play, but I just don't because the first 26 levels are not fun. The quests and boss kills then just become fun instead of a headache.
I’m actually confused on how the economy is gonna work tomorrow. Most of the items had their value from them being hideout requirements but now it needs found in raid gonna be interesting
items that can be used to craft needed upgrade items are going to skyrocket insane, the one's that can't are going to drop flat likely
I (level 15 from playing arena) was picking up my bronze pocket watch this morning on night-time customs before work when a streamer with max traders wearing NVGs pulled up and blasted me with m61 out of an RSASS. It was a very fair fight since we both cant access the flee market because its locked. His RSASS with m61 vs my RFB with TCW SP. Thanks for nerfing us both by locking the flee BSG.
Streamers need this advantage to bully normal players and make content for longer.
It was his rgb chair
This actually made a lot of sense and there were a lot of good points, great video!
Crazy thing is the spawn chances effect PVE too. After wipe I was trying to do the quest to kill Killa. Took me 3 days. First two times he spawned he was already dead by the time I found him... and that on easy mode PVE....
It's funny that you have to add that disclaimer right at 0:56 because people will see you providing an opinion and immediately run with it. You give an inch on an opinion that can be moderate, and somehow people immediately assume the extreme.
You can tell he’s been in the community for a long time for sure haha
@ 4:00, ive literally said this to one of the big streamers of this game and he said that its part of the game and i have to stop being a cry baby like bro i got a family and a life i dont have time to grind my fir hideout like wtf lmao
“B-b-but we run out of stuff to do after pouring 600 hours into the game on wipe week 😥😥”
i play an hour or two a day at most and i'm not having a problem so far with my hideout, it's obviously a lot slower than previous wipes but i think it should take more than a month to max out your hideout
I feel you…. I’m lucky to get 2-3 hrs a week some weeks. 2-3 hrs a day 😂😂😂😂😂
kappa was already difficult enough. Prestige is probably unobtainable for people with a life not revolved around streaming or content creation.
Soo true. At some point (1-2 years ago) i lost my job an had plenty time to play, but still never got to Kappa because i am not that good even if i had put much time to the game. Now that i have a Job again i dont think i will ever touch PVP again. More grind to be able to do because of RNG (Cheater, Spawnrate, Loadtime). I like the Prestige rewards but sadly i will never reach them cause there are not in PVE and the time between wipes is not enough for me to ever reach Kappa. For Fun i tried getting Kappa in PVE this wipe in my spare time after work before wipe hits. I got kappa one day after Wipe because i couldnt find the Evasion Armband, but still if i cant even get Kappa in PVE fast enough how how how the f should i ever get in in PVP?
@ seriously. The devs should just put more prestigious and prestige rewards in the game and make the grind a little bit easier. That way more people would be able to do it.
@@heckin.hunter Totally agree and as you progress/prestige make it the quest change a little. Like you have to shoot a Scav 2 leg and 3 arm or something. Next time you have to hit one 5 times in the balls or something. Or instead of finding tushonkas, the second time you have to find him chocolate and 5 time moonshine. So you make them a little harder each time, but you should also have the knowledge at this point and even if not most people will say: ohh shit that was different last time where do i get it? And keep playing because it feels more fresh.
what if the gamer dads and marines aren't the target audience of prestige? the life doesn't revolve around you
@@Juggernaut-bz1pt So you disagree with the video and you think just 1% of all player should ever get Prestige? Because that are alot of people who wont get it not only marines and gamer dads. We didnt say make it more easy we said make it less grindy. On the other hand if thats the intension behind it ok i let the devs decide but i dont think thats a wise decision to only go for the 1% Playerbase.
and yeah life doesn't revolve around anyone except the people you love, but whats the point saying that?
Unpopular opinion;
Streamers ruin every game they infest. Look what they did to Destiny,and look at what they tried to do to Star Citizen.
Game studios think that everyone is a nolife when streamers are involved. Content creators cause brain rots in gaming. IT makes it so nobody thinks.
I was running a pistol on wipe day, and ran into Tagilla on factory. After I nearly crapped my pants, he got stuck in a desk and I knee capped him.
Rare moment!
The ques are really weird this wipe sometimes it's above 15 min and sometimes its like 3 min
I'm pretty sure if you're waiting longer than like 4 minutes, you should re-que. There was a bugged lobby glitch for a long time.
@6:40 that ghazel came from the new years gift.
They should absolutely require you to have max scav rep to choose your map. Maps like lighthouse, streets, and interchange are ruined by the amount of player scavs.
also forces you to learn maps you might not be comfortable with and you risk nothing, so it’s a win win
NO !! DONT MAKE ME PLAY SCAV IN STREETS !! NOOOOO !!!! BAD IDEA BAD IDEA !!!
Besides, with map-to-map travel we could make it so if you really want to get to a certain place as a scav you still can, it's just a more involved journey to get there
The community involvement / contribution towards boss spawn rates on specific maps would be an exciting thing to see
i love the boss spawn % thing i would also love to see maybe in raid events causing boss spawns, ie trying to open killas extract or opening kiba and similar things like that
The queue times made me quit this wipe... 5-10min to get a raid, just to die to random shit is not fun anymore. I got better things to do
biggest tarkov issue is raid time vs queue time really dont know how to fix it with how tarkov is fundamentally
@@polan7429 its gotta be the matchmaking algorithm
Player base is falling off, especially in pvp.
@realAndysan they need to put all focus in the cheating situation. Without that fixed ppl won't come back
@@realAndysanthis ^^ back in .12.9 you got into a match roughly within 2 minutes reliably. Faster on weekends. But first 2-3 week of wipe servers were constantly on fire.
Bosses should always spawn 50% of the time. But as the wipe progresses scale their loot and XP reward. Should also have a white flare in the air at the start of the map so you know they spawned.
White flare would be too much and leave dead raids. Interchange would be no white flare everyone leave, you should still have to search even at 50%
The worst thing about arena are the teams. I constantly get horrific teammates that shoot friendlies or can't aim for shit. It just takes way longer if you get these teammates
if you constantly get bad teams it's a you problem xD
@@D3xt3r33 totally not me having nearly 1.4kd. My fault ig
Another thing they did was hide a bunch of tasks behind setup so now you have a bunch of people hiding in corners with shotguns
I only play PvE until some software gets released that can detect all cheaters - so basically, never. I used to love testing my skills against other players, but these days there are so many cheaters in every game that I doubt almost every encounter. Whether it's macros, minimap ESP, or anything else, it just feels boring. It’s like being the guy from Indiana Jones with a sword, getting gunned down by a single flick of the wrist.
I keep seeing this word "fuel" everywhere I am a bit confused
fuel
airwing fuel marine
Guess you're not a Fueler
get the Fuel marine
fuel up marine
the biggest issue with this game is one cheaters and two streamers who play 24/7 level 40+ while most casuals are 20 under
Tigz. I usually disagree but man between this video and your tiktok on how you’d save Tarkov you’ve made some really big W takes man.
I’ve gone whole wipes without seeing the bosses I’ve needed. I don’t even bother with the boss kill requests anymore.
And when you get a daily or weekly kill x bosses, I just laugh.
12:34
As a casual player who probably plays around 6-8hrs of tarkov a day when i first came to tarkov i can honestly say surviving raids were easier when doing certain quests due to the fact some peoole would try to hit bosses early raid to get some stuff early like redrebel etc
Delta Force has already somewhat addressed this problem for the genre.
The easiest solution is to separate matchmaking based on either kit value or player level. This way, casual players can play with others of similar skill or gear, while the more competitive players can face off in tougher matches. Here are the suggested brackets:
- Customs level 1-20 OR max kit value of $200,000 (5% boss spawn rate)
- Customs level 21-40 OR max kit value of $400,000 (30% boss spawn rate)
- Customs level 41+ OR no kit value limit (50% boss spawn rate)
This approach ensures that casual players can enjoy their progression without the fear of unfair fights. It allows all players to progress at a pace matching their peers, encouraging continued engagement with the game rather than quitting upon reaching a particular milestone. This also aligns the difficulty of quests with the actual challenge experienced during raids.
But your splitting the player base even more with this then, plus pve and spt player base is way to separated
I havent finished the video yet but i just wanna say i played all last wipe. Finished lightkeeper, finished kappa, level 70, killed cooldee. I did it all... point is i played a lot. In the first 2 weeks of this current wipe being out ive died to more 20+ kd suspect players than i did all last wipe. And im also stacking up the scav deaths too. They seem to have some instant shoot on sight change this wipe.
The Scav thing is real. They updated the AI to make them actually more difficult instead of just braindead annoys…. Now the scavs are actually semi smart AND have aimbot 😂😂. Personally, it sucks dying to scavs more, BUT it’s nice that fighting scavs actually feels like a challenge and when you die it actually makes sense more often than not. As for cheaters, I can honestly say I haven’t ran into any blatant or obvious ones yet.
@@iitstre_4550 Yeah dying to cheaters feels best because it cant be blamed on anything, just a cheater oh well. but there are times this wipe where a scav barely sees a part of my body and it instantly starts pre-firing where it last saw me. doesnt feel great especially when they aim at you through walls and blatantly reveal your postion to an enemy. ive gotten kills just because a scav is tracking someone though walls.
Streamers and Uber-chads are ruining this game. Streamers want more viewers so they want a CoD rip off because high action sells. Their perspective is skewed and extremely bias because they directly profit off of it and they feel they need to protect that. Uber chads are the people who will only use the meta gear and AD spam like no tomorrow, then cry because it's "not fair" and "unbalanced" that a budget kit kills them so easily; it's Tarkov; if you are not used to dying yet, there's the door. Where do they get these meta kit ideas from? You guessed it the streamers.They are crying salty chad tears about not being able to run as fast or be as quiet carrying 60 kilos (132 freedom units) of gear as someone carrying 20 kilos (44 freedom units) of gear. In what world is that not acceptable? That's basic physics that even a small child can grasp fairly easily.
JUST KIDDING TY REDDIT FUEL
I will say, the weight complaints but the SHIT out of me. The amount of times streamers specifically will say “I understand the point of the weight and inertia but it doesn’t make sense that blah blah blah…”
If it doesn’t make sense… you DONT FUCKIN UNDERSTAND THE WEIGHT SYSTEM! I’m a literal, real life serving soldier. I, and none of my brothers/sisters are sprinting through labs, jump-shotting whilst also carrying 60+ kilos of weight. If you want to be fast af, then either come in with no backpack, or remember to drop the shit before you fight. We do it in real life, it’s not hard. Complaining about weight is such a stupid ass waste of time. Go play CoD or Halo if you want to be a super soldier. (I also love CoD, so that’s my exact point)
@iitstre_4550 People wont understand the weight of a full IOTV and a ruck feels like unless they put one on. It limits tf outta you. I made this argument many times but most just dont understand. They think video games are an accurate representation
its the pushing and locking ammo further and further back for me. i quest until i can get an altyn + good armor + good ammo, and then i just pvp and have a good time. now i have to grind 100+ hours to even get the ammo, let alone the helmet. it really kills the vibe for me. i still love and play the game, but the frustration is real. i just hit level 37 to realize i can only buy 144 rounds of 56a1 and can't even purchase m62 at all, im done with spa tour.
Imagine like a weekly pool challenge, where people have to donate roubles to increase the spawn rates, like 50 mil (that's not a lot but it's early wipe) and players were capped at like 50k each, and then the spawn rate would go from like 15% to 35%. I think it could be a great way for people to feel they are contributing to something larger than just their own stash or hideout.
The cheater thing when there is a boss up is so real, I was playing with 3 of my friends and we were running a 4 man on woods. My friend was trying to kill Shturman and some dude named diddytron123 pulls up and instantly drops one of our teammates and drops me next. My friend still got the kill on Shturman and dipped outta there. The cheaters stats was 150 hours at lvl 44 with 1k kills this wipe.
Agreed with probably every point made in this video. Boss hunting can be such a hassle. 2-3 wipes ago going for kappa I had the same issue. Rushing bosses, no boss so I leave, or a cheater beats me to the boss and wipes them all out and is gone before I can even get there.
Amazing and well said... I agree totally and feel that the Idea of a community type even to increase the rate of spawn would be an insanely good idea to keep the player base up later on !
You can substitute Escape From Tarkov in your title with any game and the result would still be the same
There are also multiple other people in the map trying to get that boss when it does spawn. 5 PMC in the raid? Now your 20% chance at getting a boss is lowered to 4%. Then you have to be able to kill it, etc
legit watched desmond play woods for 8 hours today looking for shturman, saw two players the whole day, then the ONE raid where boss was up there was 3 cheaters contesting boss immediately. I have fond memories of tarkov but everytime i think about playing again i see stuff like this and realize it just wont be fun.
Haven't played in over a year, been playing since 2017. Game is just getting to be a second job every 6 months just to compete fairly with people.
The ideas you had with certain days having community events to increase spawn rate for bosses resulting in increased popularity on those maps for X amount of time meaning more PVP etc were freaking amazing! I really hope they do that!
I really like the 1 boss has a higher spawn chance feature, it would make raids feel super alive those days, and you could actually farm without being beholden to RNGesus
11:00 this is really the core of the problem.
I was really excited for this wipe. Last wipe was my first wipe I took seriously and got really far into the progression of the game. Didn't get Kappa, but was still very proud of my improvements with level and hideout. This time I was looking to actually go for Kappa. The recent changes to the hideout and flee market made all my friends quit playing and now I'm alone and unmotivated to continue because I don't have the time a streamer does to play this game. I play maybe 3 times a week for 2 or 3 hours. I have a life and these changes ruined the experience for me.
Its also a HUUGE Problem that The Boss Rates seem to be Coded in weird inconsistent ways because I started this wipe when wiki already said 20% (7-8 days ago) and am more than 100 raids deep with the only boss encounter being cultists on one random night raid where I just tried to survive asap for BP Depot
The way to fix the bossing problem is simple.
Boss spawn rates are ZERO at start of wipe.
When the first person gets the quest to kill one they start spawning globally at 10% as more people get on the quest the spawn rate just continues to increase.
By the time a good portion are on the quest the bosses are like at 50%
Your takes are so on point. PVP Tarkov is such a huge time commitment that I didn't even bother trying to progress at all for the last few wipes. I just didn't think it made sense to put any time into it as a casual player because I knew I wouldn't get anywhere near endgame Tarkov anyway. Therefore PVE was so refreshing to me and I've had such much fun playing again. But because of the dynamics you explained I will never touch PVP again. PVE made me realize how much fun the game can be if it is not destroyed by the ideal that everyone who plays it needs to play it 24/7.
I remember two years ago my first raid of the wipe (wipe day 1) I died to The Goons on Customs. Two years before that, I was able to get all my boss kills in two weeks. A lot has changed and its for the worst.