Just remember: Theos, a curseless magic user using only 3 magics, was still more powerful than Durza who had five curses and probably every single magic in existence at the time from the Absorption curse Theres still hope.
@@racoonwithrabies he's referring to the past, in arcane adventures lore, when Theos was in his prime he was able to take on and go toe to toe with durza despite having no curses, which is honestly extremely impressive, it's also part of the reason as to why durza went into hiding, so he could both recover from his fight, get stronger, and raise an army of the undead
3:40 When Calvus gives this dialog, he obtains sort of an Aether aura, and his beard and hair and whatnot starts glowing the colors of Aether magic. "Even if it's only a fraction of what he had..." The more I think about it, that dialog + the Aether-like glowing makes me beleive that King Nero Caesar had the Aether Curse.
first, he had apocalypse bringer, and second, thats basically his mode spell for aether magic. the supposed 'fraction' is the blue and black glow in his explosion spells, i believe
@@fartman1314 That is actually an interesting theory. The blue and black color scheme also resemble the Death Curse. Perhaps Nero Caesar held it before Morden?
It may be good to notice that the magic circle he uses the whole time i think is **NOT** light magic. It is something else i am unsure of. Just thought i would point out the magic circle he uses.
Regarding Beringer, the reason why he got captured is because his Cloud curse is actually weak, its not even the user fault here. The cloud curse is canonically classified as a weak curse, meaning that its very weak and pratically useless. Getting this curse would be more cons than pros.
Shouldn't it be kinda strong? It's stated that it's inspired from devil fruits. So it is roughly equivalent to logia type smoke devil fruit.(since the user can transform into said element, cloud here, for example) Smoker could solidify his smoke for offensive purposes. So shouldn't cloud be also the same? Why is it weak?
@@aishikghoshclass-8sec-irol858 Cloud is basically water vapor. At most you could make it feel really muggy and probably give someone tuberculosis due to moist, but not choke out someone like smoke.
I can tell you guys from first hand experience, curses are on an entirely different scale from magic, fire curse alone has multiple ultimate skills, a recovery skill, 2 transformations, a flight skill 2 launching skills and a barrage skill. ....i miss online fighting.
Nero likely used Apocalypse Bringer, as in the King Calvus IV fight, he has teal explosions after his pillar ult, and his Aether turns from solid yellow to a more green-ish yellow. Vetex has confirmed that Apocalypse Bringer has a teal and black color scheme (inverse of Death). If it isn't Apocalypse Bringer I have no clue. I might be entirely wrong though.
Idk if someone told ya, but curses are logias, and thus being too op, therefore will not be accessible to player, however mutations like lost and ancient magic will be and they look and aouns awesome
In Arcane Odyssey i got a book from a chest, writen by Randal, "The Arcane Chronicles" witch says somebody we know as "Magic Thief" or "Dark Mage" or "Acheron" has the Absorption Curse, and used it to absorp all typees of magic but when he and Theos facht it shaderd earth and made the Dark Sea, there is alot more details that i wont say tho
I think beringer is probably the one who made the clouds that cirrus island and the other sky islands sit on but idk how they were able to put whole plots of land on these islands
Good theory but unlikely, floating islands on clouds were a thing in arcane adventures too and it while it is possible that they were created in the same way im not too sure.
If you find and read the secret journal near cirrus, you get the explanation that with enough magic energy around, these clouds can occur naturally. Berringer probably could make his own if he wanted though.
Assuming the buildings found on the islands were built on top of them while they were airborne, these islands could be hundreds of years old, even millennia by this point. Maybe scattered pieces of land cast out by Durza's attack against Theos that missed and decimated the human population in the process. Maybe something else.
Pretty sure it was created by someone else. Beringer is still a new curse user from what we’ve seen. The tree dude was older than him since the building he was in was quite old. Why would Beringer a father of Iris be the one who made it? It’s probability is low since curse powers won’t last if the owner is dead.
Random fact: The tide curse was then used by a ravenna general called Zaix but then died in the cassia war against the Thorne Empire at Cassia Town (blasted rock) oh and I'm from the future
Ye but I don’t think that’s possible considering a mortal body can’t handle that much power, unless you have a spec or a universal relic like the final boss and the king of magic
You should try powerscaling certain feats and characters with calculs. Like finding how powerful Durza vs Theos 2nd Impact Nuke and 3rd Impact Durza vs Peacekeeper Nuke when compared to tnt.
Calculating how powerful Durza's continent splitting blast actually is turns out to be extremely hard if not impossible Though other feats in AO are way easier to calculate
I find it stupid that people still cant accept warren has inferno magic. Do you guys that dubious? Or just really waiting for vetex or someone else to tell you "yes, officially he has inferno magic."
Blaze curse: Basically fire but better and hotter. Ice curse: Obvious. Tide curse: Makes one person able to control the sea, but still unable to dip on it. Energy curse: You never run out of stamina. Now i think that cursebeard is actually broken. My man can separate the seas, burn them or freeze them, and he can do it infinitely as he never gets tired (curses works by stamina use). My dude is op.
It's been confirmed already they won't be playable/usable, and will remain exclusive to story characters/NPCs only, not only cause of em being really powerful but there's only one of each curse in existence (example, only 1 death curse exists, which Morten now has, so he'll be the only death curse user for potentially the rest of the game unless if he dies)
Actually, Torrens dark flame curse(grand fire curse) is technically the strongest The reason is because it has a twist to it, i.e the curse grows immensely in strength while used for combat, torren became so strong that 6 whole unknowns had to join forces to lock him away(it is said he's slowly breaking that seal but nothing was specified) Another example of this is when torren killed freedrock 500 times before freedrock managed to escape They both were friends a long while ago but the strength growth of the curse made torren go insane, so freedrock set out to defeat him, only to be killed 500 times before being able to escape(the Lazarus curse makes the user 2x stronger whenever they respawn, to put things into scale) He's said to be sealed somewhere in the 3rd sea of AA, but we don't know where
Yes but read, the Promethean Fire Curse possesses ALL powers of other fire curse(to a lesser degree) so it will still climb in power during battle. Another thing to mention is we have no idea how drastically it improves in strength. If a Promethean Fire Curse user of equal skill fought a Darkflame Curse user of equal skill, the Promethean Fire Curse user would probably defeat the Darkflame Curse before the power increase would kick in and start punishing it. We also have no idea what “more powerful” means, whether it is talking about clashing rates, damage, or all stats at once. The thing about the Promethean Flame Curse is: 1: It possesses flames more intense than other fires except Inferno 2: It is more explosive and larger than other fires except scorch 3: It is blinding, and moves faster than other fires except ethereal/aethereal 4: It will still climb in power like Darkflame, mitigating it’s power climbing somewhat. The Promethean Flame Curse is still most definitely superior. (Also, Torren is completely uncanon, he does not exist anymore. Also I have no idea where you got the fact Freedrock was friends with Torren and got killed 500 times. All my sources say is that Torren is just so strong he could kill Freedrock infinitely, not like he ever did it)
@@CarlDaCool168 yea but the Promethean flame curse hasn't been used nearly as much as the dark flame, so not only does it have a higher power increase, it has been used for way longer as the Promethean curse is somewhere floating in space while torren is trapped, still using his powers to try to escape When both start at the same time, yes Promethean is stronger but in the context of the story, in the present time dark flame is superior
@@tehnoobleader7673 It says it increases power while in BATTLE When you are battling, the curse user becomes more powerful, but once the battle ends, the power is reset to normal. Also, please read what i said: Torren is completely uncanon, he DOES NOT EXIST. He was completely evicted from the lore from Vetex a long long time ago. He is not trying to escape his prison, he simply is nonexistent. Besides, trying to break through a prison isn’t really battling, is it? It’s also just stated by techlevel80 in an interview, that the Darkflame curse is tied with Inferno Curse for second, and the Promethean Curse is still the strongest.
@@CarlDaCool168 also I wouldn't take that power increase in battle literally, it's most likely related to using the power at all rather than just battling
The growth curse is not external. It was specifically stated that it allows the user to turn into plants and trees. A better definition of an external curse is one that gives the user an abstract ability, rather than the ability to turn into and manipulate a substance. To clarify, elemental curses are ones that give the user the ability to turn into and manipulate a particular substance while becoming allergic to magically irradiated seawater.
I think in the past the growth curse was supposed to be a size manipulating power rather than a nature one. On the arcane reborn wiki which used to be the aa wiki it says it "Allows the user to change the size of any physical object at will"
@@RootBeerIsGood No, the Arcane Reborn wiki just got that wrong. It's an understandable mistake, but even back in Online fighting, the growth curse was plant-themed. However it's only move was turning the users arm green and stretching it, so I could see how someone might see that and mistake the growth curse for a curse that makes you Antman or Elastagirl.
@@shinobidragon6026 It's elemental. Here is the exact way that Warren describes what the growth curse can do ua-cam.com/video/nq1eboDic_U/v-deo.html It says that "It allows him to turn his body into plants and trees." Sounds like an elemental curse to me.
I wonder if we'll meet trigno in ao, in the lore (i think in the sixth sea) it said he was gonna sail off to explore the rest of the world, maybe he just dies in the epicenter of the dark sea.
You gain: Super powerful and magical abilities You lose: The ability to swim I honestly think that the not being able to swim rule would be a lot more interesting then just being cursed to outlive those you love, since it would make the water actually deadly to you, but hey, that would be blatant plagiarism, and all the Blox Fruits kids would start having a seizure. The whole poison water thing in a game where 90% of the map is water could also make some intersting strategies for “hunting curse users”. And I’m not talking about the crappy One Piece game “you take 1hp per second in water”, I’m talking “you lose all your stamina an immediately sink in the water”
theory: Ravenna may have kidnapped him because Bringer might not only have the ability of transforming clouds, he could manipulate their aggression, power and mood
Curse are powerful but they wouldn’t be fun if it’s obtainable, instead I thing lost magic and ainctient magic would be better considering it can still be balanced with other type of magic and you can create builds and combos with them
When I first heard of sea curses I was intrigued and worried at the same time since from a worldbuilding and story writing standpoint the player are supposed the feel special as they can achieve feats that are nie impossible to normal people but to have multiple other characters possess a set of powers that is very powerful but are inaccessible to the players might make the story sound strange since if the player were to fight a cures user how would they win without some Deus Ex Machina or why would the player need to help other characters at all since there’s a person who can wipe out an entire island with them.
@@phattadontungtrongsit4137 yeah, after rereading your comment I believe I misinterpreted it, but it's not impossible for a magic user to overpower a curse user, as the comment above me stated, Theos never had a curse, yet was one of the strongest characters in the Arcane universe, almost managing to kill Durza when he was in his prime, who had several curses It's also stated that the player character in Arcane Adventures did eventually manage to kill Durza at the end, who also didn't have any curses during their fight with him
Sea Curses are only that powerful if you have personality, goals, beliefs and self esteem otherwise you'll just be weak, Morden almost lost to General Julian and even though he had an Ancient Curse cus curse powers comes from your own connection with the curse and yourself
imagine if we get to fight the peace keeper, it could possibly happen due to morden having the death curse, although we would definetly get clapped it could be a pretty cool fight if we get help from iris and morden.
I think the equinox is the most mysterious magic it said to be combination of the light and shadow,i dont know if it gonna get deleted or it is just theory but it said to be the highest stage of light and shadow
Whats scarier is that, grand fire curses (Inferno and darkflame I believe, maybe even promethean) from what I heard were able to destroy the entire world but darkflame curse held by torren crovus cross not a real dude anymorre grah!!
sea curses are magic yes, they make you the embodiment of said aspect of the world or magic like someone could have death magic and they would never be able to beat the death curse or someone with sand magic would never be able to beat the sand curse user as they have complete control over that magic once they become a curse user
here are the remaining three grand fire curses Scorch: The most explosive type of fire, it takes the form of accursed green fire that is highly combustible. Aethereal Flame: The brightest type of fire, it takes the form of angelic yellow fire that can blind anyone. Said to be the weakest Grand Fire Curse. Darkflame Curse which was a type of fire which spread easier than any other fire, along increasing its user power the longer it was used.
*_Sea Curses will delete your ability to dive underwater due to how unstable the reaction to ocean/seawater will be._* *_So yeah, I am still waiting on ancient magic than to get a Sea Curse (I just wanna swim, lol)._*
yes but better, sea curses doesn't need to be train to grow stronger, the sea curse grows stronger itself, unlike devil fruit it requires learn and train to grow stronger.
imo if they were added(this is a hypothetical mr. um actually we will not be getting sea curses 🤓🤓🤓) Id say that they would be really good in raw power, however as a sort of balancing feature they would have less moves than any other route in the game, im thinking only 5 to 10 at max level, you can get as many as you want, but you will have to replace slots in the singular curse bar you would get. Id think that maybe we could get like weaker versions of the actual curses by some scientist dude idk, allowing multiple players to have the same one, and also partially or fully remove the whole logia dodge crap from our loadouts.
Well you missed the time curse which was used by some broken bounty hunter who was known for only using a wooden sword, his strength and slashes causing blood flowers when slashing enemies. Really broken curse. Also Torren is the wielder of the darkflame curse, and is way stronger than basically almost everybody in the verse, including Zeus, Theos, Peacemaker, Cursebeard, Morock, AO protagonist, etc. However he isnt the strongest because he isnt ranked #1 in like this group called the 11 unknowns or something.
Torren Corvus Cross, Kingslayer whose backstory has to do with some kingdom I forgot but I read about it somewhere. His strength scales with his anger, and does not really have a limit. He can easily destroy the AO/AA world if mad enough (break the planet). He got sealed by 4 other unknowns because they were scared of him. Vetex and techno apparently implemented him but nobody could figure out how to unseal him since the 4 spots were hard to find (3rd sea) He is sealed under seas torment and two of the spots were in caves. Apparently if you do manage to summon and kill him, you are awarded either this accesory forgot its name or his sword. Source for info is techno's old messages and a lot of digging back in AA days
sond isn't canon for sure torren's strength definitely isn't canon 11 unknowns aren't canon, and half their members were weaker than cursebeard when they were still canon and before anyone tries to source the ghosts trying to talk about "the mistwalker" or "kingslayer", torren's canonicity is not the problem, it's his strength. The reason he was never canonized was because he was just a dark souls character that just beat everyone "just cuz", if tech and vetex are ever bringing torren back, they're going to make him significantly weaker
Not to sound like a complete nerd but if your including curses as a magic type the strongest magic would be the promethean fire curse otherwise its just promethean fire magic
@@Reppen555nope, there is no way to balance them lol. The lost magics are just powerful mutations. If you saw the mutation sheet that vetex posted when planning for Arcane Adventures, most of the lost magics are literally just mutations.
@@StupidestStorm An important detail you COMPLETELY ignored is the fact that Rupin actually had one of the Grand Fire Curses, and possibly the most powerful of them all, I mean the dude didn't get the title "Crimson Demon" just by spouting a few fire spells.
its still not confirmed what curse nero had, but whatever the curse it was, maybe for lore reasons nero was able to have the curse passed down through the bloodline?
@@StupidestStorm i wonder how he managed to pass a curse down his bloodline if he had one maybe if vetex confirms he has a curse then he will explain how My theory is that because u become the element of the curse when you have kids some of the magic energy of the curse also passes down to your kids 🤷♂️
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i swear to god if a conjurer puts his hands on a sea curse the world its doomed, in literal means
morocks' honest reaction
1st, sea curses aren't going to come out.
2nd, sea curses aren't able to imbue on weapons. So... Conjurer becomes a mage.
@@mdeleon9481 they can, morocks used his curse to create weapon that can use promethean flame
@@CharleanCharlea
I said imbue not create
@@mdeleon9481 that's basically imbuing anyways, morocks managed to imbue his magic into a sword to create a sword that can manifest promethean flame
Just remember:
Theos, a curseless magic user using only 3 magics, was still more powerful than Durza who had five curses and probably every single magic in existence at the time from the Absorption curse
Theres still hope.
Durza already died
theos died to prometheus lmao
@@bread8587 prometheus is the most powerful greek god in this universe lmao what did you expect
@@racoonwithrabies he's referring to the past, in arcane adventures lore, when Theos was in his prime he was able to take on and go toe to toe with durza despite having no curses, which is honestly extremely impressive, it's also part of the reason as to why durza went into hiding, so he could both recover from his fight, get stronger, and raise an army of the undead
@@bread8587 He was past his prime and he was 987 years old. But yes, he died to prometheus.
3:40
When Calvus gives this dialog, he obtains sort of an Aether aura, and his beard and hair and whatnot starts glowing the colors of Aether magic.
"Even if it's only a fraction of what he had..."
The more I think about it, that dialog + the Aether-like glowing makes me beleive that King Nero Caesar had the Aether Curse.
first, he had apocalypse bringer, and second, thats basically his mode spell for aether magic. the supposed 'fraction' is the blue and black glow in his explosion spells, i believe
@@fartman1314 That is actually an interesting theory. The blue and black color scheme also resemble the Death Curse. Perhaps Nero Caesar held it before Morden?
Nero probably had the Force Curse, the same one that Cursebeard possessed.
It may be good to notice that the magic circle he uses the whole time i think is **NOT** light magic. It is something else i am unsure of. Just thought i would point out the magic circle he uses.
@@pulsegamingbird3764 it’s the Aether magic circle.
Regarding Beringer, the reason why he got captured is because his Cloud curse is actually weak, its not even the user fault here.
The cloud curse is canonically classified as a weak curse, meaning that its very weak and pratically useless. Getting this curse would be more cons than pros.
still, how would u be able to put handcuffs on a cloud man
@@x_thescorpio Using landmass?
Shouldn't it be kinda strong? It's stated that it's inspired from devil fruits. So it is roughly equivalent to logia type smoke devil fruit.(since the user can transform into said element, cloud here, for example) Smoker could solidify his smoke for offensive purposes. So shouldn't cloud be also the same? Why is it weak?
@@aishikghoshclass-8sec-irol858 Cloud is basically water vapor. At most you could make it feel really muggy and probably give someone tuberculosis due to moist, but not choke out someone like smoke.
@@aishikghoshclass-8sec-irol858 Inspired doesnt mean equal you know
2:15 He was kidnapped because of the information he had on the Death Curse, not the Cloud Curse that he formerly possessed.
he said "how beringer got kidnapped". HOW
how the F a man that transforms into a gas can be captured
He got stabbed by a devourer and lost his curse, there's quite literally a huge ass wound in his chest
@@icarus754 I think the Devourer was still on him but I might remembering wrong
I can tell you guys from first hand experience, curses are on an entirely different scale from magic, fire curse alone has multiple ultimate skills, a recovery skill, 2 transformations, a flight skill 2 launching skills and a barrage skill.
....i miss online fighting.
Nero likely used Apocalypse Bringer, as in the King Calvus IV fight, he has teal explosions after his pillar ult, and his Aether turns from solid yellow to a more green-ish yellow. Vetex has confirmed that Apocalypse Bringer has a teal and black color scheme (inverse of Death). If it isn't Apocalypse Bringer I have no clue. I might be entirely wrong though.
I am scared about the mages in future updates when the sea curses come out.
the thing is sea curses aren't going to be accessible for players to use
@@StupidestStorm😢
How ever lost magics should lol
Idk if someone told ya, but curses are logias, and thus being too op, therefore will not be accessible to player, however mutations like lost and ancient magic will be and they look and aouns awesome
@@Tuvlvli512 wait ancient magica too? Are they the same as lost magic or are they different like will mages get a choice between the two?
In Arcane Odyssey i got a book from a chest, writen by Randal, "The Arcane Chronicles" witch says somebody we know as "Magic Thief" or "Dark Mage" or "Acheron" has the Absorption Curse, and used it to absorp all typees of magic but when he and Theos facht it shaderd earth and made the Dark Sea, there is alot more details that i wont say tho
I think beringer is probably the one who made the clouds that cirrus island and the other sky islands sit on but idk how they were able to put whole plots of land on these islands
Good theory but unlikely, floating islands on clouds were a thing in arcane adventures too and it while it is possible that they were created in the same way im not too sure.
If you find and read the secret journal near cirrus, you get the explanation that with enough magic energy around, these clouds can occur naturally. Berringer probably could make his own if he wanted though.
Assuming the buildings found on the islands were built on top of them while they were airborne, these islands could be hundreds of years old, even millennia by this point. Maybe scattered pieces of land cast out by Durza's attack against Theos that missed and decimated the human population in the process. Maybe something else.
Pretty sure it was created by someone else. Beringer is still a new curse user from what we’ve seen. The tree dude was older than him since the building he was in was quite old. Why would Beringer a father of Iris be the one who made it? It’s probability is low since curse powers won’t last if the owner is dead.
He didnt.
Cloud Curse is not powerful enough to perform such things.
The sky islands also most likely existed prior to him obtaining his curse.
I never played AA but seeing the strongest characters in there, i just say "Meh" and imagine them looking as badass as they should be.
Random fact:
The tide curse was then used by a ravenna general called Zaix but then died in the cassia war against the Thorne Empire at Cassia Town (blasted rock) oh and I'm from the future
U forgot about the ash curse used by Arsin
I shit myself whenever i sensed that guys power
@@Saithegoat Yeah u could see him from the other side of the map.
It would be cool to exist especial curses for every god so Zeus would use the "Godly Lightning Curse" and that would be cool, maybe.
I still want to know how the hell did Julian fly with glass. Pure fucking glass.
imagine the power of a fusion of all the magics(basics,ancient and lost) and sea curses
Sea curses are purely for narrative purpose and will never be accessible to players
Sea curses are purely for narrative purpose and will never be accessible to players
Ye but I don’t think that’s possible considering a mortal body can’t handle that much power, unless you have a spec or a universal relic like the final boss and the king of magic
You can't combine magics with Sea Curses
@@shinobidragon6026 its just to IMAGINE,not a fact
You should try powerscaling certain feats and characters with calculs. Like finding how powerful Durza vs Theos 2nd Impact Nuke and 3rd Impact Durza vs Peacekeeper Nuke when compared to tnt.
Durza's nuke incinerated the 5th, 6th, and 7th seas.
Calculating how powerful Durza's continent splitting blast actually is turns out to be extremely hard if not impossible
Though other feats in AO are way easier to calculate
I find it stupid that people still cant accept warren has inferno magic. Do you guys that dubious? Or just really waiting for vetex or someone else to tell you "yes, officially he has inferno magic."
he probably has the curse not magic
He literally flew to Wind-Row Island.
Only curse users can fly.
I found a sea chart that led me to a place called the “wreck of the revenge curse”, I wonder what the revenge curse would be…
Bro imagine if durza stole the Lazarus curse from freedrock. The world would literally be screwed
i wanna imagine the major of frostmill or the ruler of redwake or whatever somehow getting seacurses later in the story, good god
Blaze curse: Basically fire but better and hotter.
Ice curse: Obvious.
Tide curse: Makes one person able to control the sea, but still unable to dip on it.
Energy curse: You never run out of stamina.
Now i think that cursebeard is actually broken. My man can separate the seas, burn them or freeze them, and he can do it infinitely as he never gets tired (curses works by stamina use).
My dude is op.
Imagine if tide fruit was in one piece
He died from mental fatigue on Arcane Adventures
@@__Hate_Speech__I mean if I made 1000+ years worth of crew and it was destroyed single handedly yeah I would be pretty depressed
@@TheMentallyTired His crew held themselves pretty well, it's just that having to kill his crew (they were turned undead) really decreased his morale
@@__Hate_Speech__ The fact that my man Vetex did Arthur dirty is just 😔
Now that you mentioned that Sea Curses have the power to destroy countries, sea curses to me now are basically the arcane odyssey version of nukes.
Morden: Can control death
Morden's friend: dead
in online fighting, the growth curse was just wood magic, so ig it is wood curse but even better
Finally someone who remembers Online Fighting
@@spricker who doesn't..?
@@gomshom67iscool23 A lot of people, it’s a very old game
I rlly want obtaniable sea curses in AO, but i dont think they'll add it cuz other stat builds would automaticly die
It's been confirmed already they won't be playable/usable, and will remain exclusive to story characters/NPCs only, not only cause of em being really powerful but there's only one of each curse in existence (example, only 1 death curse exists, which Morten now has, so he'll be the only death curse user for potentially the rest of the game unless if he dies)
even if they are added, every stat build should be able to use them
Other people: talking about the video
Me: why Is there "it's Just a burning Memory" in the background?
Actually, Torrens dark flame curse(grand fire curse) is technically the strongest
The reason is because it has a twist to it, i.e the curse grows immensely in strength while used for combat, torren became so strong that 6 whole unknowns had to join forces to lock him away(it is said he's slowly breaking that seal but nothing was specified)
Another example of this is when torren killed freedrock 500 times before freedrock managed to escape
They both were friends a long while ago but the strength growth of the curse made torren go insane, so freedrock set out to defeat him, only to be killed 500 times before being able to escape(the Lazarus curse makes the user 2x stronger whenever they respawn, to put things into scale)
He's said to be sealed somewhere in the 3rd sea of AA, but we don't know where
Yes but read, the Promethean Fire Curse possesses ALL powers of other fire curse(to a lesser degree) so it will still climb in power during battle.
Another thing to mention is we have no idea how drastically it improves in strength. If a Promethean Fire Curse user of equal skill fought a Darkflame Curse user of equal skill, the Promethean Fire Curse user would probably defeat the Darkflame Curse before the power increase would kick in and start punishing it. We also have no idea what “more powerful” means, whether it is talking about clashing rates, damage, or all stats at once. The thing about the Promethean Flame Curse is:
1: It possesses flames more intense than other fires except Inferno
2: It is more explosive and larger than other fires except scorch
3: It is blinding, and moves faster than other fires except ethereal/aethereal
4: It will still climb in power like Darkflame, mitigating it’s power climbing somewhat.
The Promethean Flame Curse is still most definitely superior.
(Also, Torren is completely uncanon, he does not exist anymore. Also I have no idea where you got the fact Freedrock was friends with Torren and got killed 500 times. All my sources say is that Torren is just so strong he could kill Freedrock infinitely, not like he ever did it)
@@CarlDaCool168 yea but the Promethean flame curse hasn't been used nearly as much as the dark flame, so not only does it have a higher power increase, it has been used for way longer as the Promethean curse is somewhere floating in space while torren is trapped, still using his powers to try to escape
When both start at the same time, yes Promethean is stronger but in the context of the story, in the present time dark flame is superior
@@tehnoobleader7673 It says it increases power while in BATTLE
When you are battling, the curse user becomes more powerful, but once the battle ends, the power is reset to normal. Also, please read what i said: Torren is completely uncanon, he DOES NOT EXIST. He was completely evicted from the lore from Vetex a long long time ago. He is not trying to escape his prison, he simply is nonexistent. Besides, trying to break through a prison isn’t really battling, is it?
It’s also just stated by techlevel80 in an interview, that the Darkflame curse is tied with Inferno Curse for second, and the Promethean Curse is still the strongest.
@@CarlDaCool168 oh so torren doesn't even exist?
I guess that's AR lore then, which I'd presume isn't canon?
@@CarlDaCool168 also I wouldn't take that power increase in battle literally, it's most likely related to using the power at all rather than just battling
Imagine abyss magic
9 stack = insanity 1
Man we need eclipse magic in this game, i wanna just start a whole damn eclipse and blind everyone on the server
It's actually called "Equinox" magic. A mix of the light and the shadow magic. It's supposed to be an ancient magic in Arcane Odyssey
@@RemiGee104 o thats cool, tho i hope like you gonna need to do smth like quest to get that magic idk why it just sounds cool to me
@@RemiGee104 having mutations be called ancient or lost magic is still alien to me idk why
@freerobux49 clueless
Can't believe Calvus's grand papa was so strong cause of his Curse he soloed an entire Nation.
I always thought that the growth curse corresponded to wood magic. Oops i guess?
funny to me seems that the guy who literally had one of strongest if not strongest curse in existance died cuz he fell into ocean and drowned...
Randal could turn himself into mycelium and cover an entire island
The growth curse is not external. It was specifically stated that it allows the user to turn into plants and trees.
A better definition of an external curse is one that gives the user an abstract ability, rather than the ability to turn into and manipulate a substance.
To clarify, elemental curses are ones that give the user the ability to turn into and manipulate a particular substance while becoming allergic to magically irradiated seawater.
I think in the past the growth curse was supposed to be a size manipulating power rather than a nature one. On the arcane reborn wiki which used to be the aa wiki it says it "Allows the user to change the size of any physical object at will"
@@RootBeerIsGood No, the Arcane Reborn wiki just got that wrong. It's an understandable mistake, but even back in Online fighting, the growth curse was plant-themed. However it's only move was turning the users arm green and stretching it, so I could see how someone might see that and mistake the growth curse for a curse that makes you Antman or Elastagirl.
@@dustpanman2998 Honestly I didn't even think of online fighting but that makes sense.
Nope, its an External.
It grants the user the ability to manipulate AND fuses with plants and trees, he cant actually turn into one
@@shinobidragon6026 It's elemental. Here is the exact way that Warren describes what the growth curse can do
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It says that "It allows him to turn his body into plants and trees." Sounds like an elemental curse to me.
I wonder if we'll meet trigno in ao, in the lore (i think in the sixth sea) it said he was gonna sail off to explore the rest of the world, maybe he just dies in the epicenter of the dark sea.
bro these npc’s have the cool magic and we have the lame ones
Don't worry the cool one will be released some day
Nah we get pretty cool magics like plasma there's no plasma curse (I don't think)
@freerobux49 oh ok
Its speculated that nero ceasar had the apocalypse bringer
You gain: Super powerful and magical abilities
You lose: The ability to swim
I honestly think that the not being able to swim rule would be a lot more interesting then just being cursed to outlive those you love, since it would make the water actually deadly to you, but hey, that would be blatant plagiarism, and all the Blox Fruits kids would start having a seizure. The whole poison water thing in a game where 90% of the map is water could also make some intersting strategies for “hunting curse users”. And I’m not talking about the crappy One Piece game “you take 1hp per second in water”, I’m talking “you lose all your stamina an immediately sink in the water”
Argos' devourer didn't remove Beringer's curse, devourers shatter upon absorbing a curse
theory: Ravenna may have kidnapped him because Bringer might not only have the ability of transforming clouds, he could manipulate their aggression, power and mood
Curse are powerful but they wouldn’t be fun if it’s obtainable, instead I thing lost magic and ainctient magic would be better considering it can still be balanced with other type of magic and you can create builds and combos with them
2:42 "Tree powers, activate!"
When I first heard of sea curses I was intrigued and worried at the same time since from a worldbuilding and story writing standpoint the player are supposed the feel special as they can achieve feats that are nie impossible to normal people but to have multiple other characters possess a set of powers that is very powerful but are inaccessible to the players might make the story sound strange since if the player were to fight a cures user how would they win without some Deus Ex Machina or why would the player need to help other characters at all since there’s a person who can wipe out an entire island with them.
It's been confirmed that curses will only be exclusive to NPCs/story characters, similar to arcane adventures, so ye, ya don't gotta worry about that
@@remix2593 oh I meant in a story logic term
In arcane adventures Theos who didnt have a curse was one of the strongest beings in the lore because he trained.
@@phattadontungtrongsit4137 yeah, after rereading your comment I believe I misinterpreted it, but it's not impossible for a magic user to overpower a curse user, as the comment above me stated, Theos never had a curse, yet was one of the strongest characters in the Arcane universe, almost managing to kill Durza when he was in his prime, who had several curses
It's also stated that the player character in Arcane Adventures did eventually manage to kill Durza at the end, who also didn't have any curses during their fight with him
@@remix2593 alright thank for the info, it helps clear things up for me.
Randal: I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees.
Sea Curses are only that powerful if you have personality, goals, beliefs and self esteem otherwise you'll just be weak, Morden almost lost to General Julian and even though he had an Ancient Curse cus curse powers comes from your own connection with the curse and yourself
whats the background music you are using?
watching u fight with bellow 25 hunger in the background makes me want to bleach my eyes
imagine if we get to fight the peace keeper, it could possibly happen due to morden having the death curse, although we would definetly get clapped it could be a pretty cool fight if we get help from iris and morden.
promethean fire sea curse goes wild (everybody dies out of nowhere)
Nero had the Apocalypse Bringer Curse
Hearing that song in a regular form is weird
isn't sea curses just demon fruits but it makes you immortal and isn't afraid of water?
I think the equinox is the most mysterious magic it said to be combination of the light and shadow,i dont know if it gonna get deleted or it is just theory but it said to be the highest stage of light and shadow
Wth is that a remix of everywhere at the end of time?
Whats scarier is that, grand fire curses (Inferno and darkflame I believe, maybe even promethean) from what I heard
were able to destroy the entire world but darkflame curse held by torren crovus cross not a real dude anymorre
grah!!
promethean flame is a grand fire curse
sea curses are magic yes, they make you the embodiment of said aspect of the world or magic
like someone could have death magic and they would never be able to beat the death curse
or someone with sand magic would never be able to beat the sand curse user as they have complete control over that magic once they become a curse user
Berlinguer must so strong i mean HOW THE HECK can you get captured when you can transform into literal gas
FR man's got gutted for the plot
Nero has apocalypse bringer curse maybe
What about the grand fire curses?
here are the remaining three grand fire curses
Scorch: The most explosive type of fire, it takes the form of accursed green fire that is highly combustible.
Aethereal Flame: The brightest type of fire, it takes the form of angelic yellow fire that can blind anyone. Said to be the weakest Grand Fire Curse.
Darkflame Curse which was a type of fire which spread easier than any other fire, along increasing its user power the longer it was used.
so the cloud curse user Creed died back in AA and Beringer found the curse
We need these curses in game obtainable ones, down the line possibly.
I would love to have the cloud curse, so many possibilities.
WAITT A MINUTEEE. Didnt they talk about adding mutations to magic in AA and arcane reborn... are ancient and lost magics the equivalent of mutations)
alot of the mutations became regular magics like magma, explosion, and plasma.
*_Sea Curses will delete your ability to dive underwater due to how unstable the reaction to ocean/seawater will be._*
*_So yeah, I am still waiting on ancient magic than to get a Sea Curse (I just wanna swim, lol)._*
Sounds like a devil fruit
@@LuckyEth yah, the game does take some inspiration from one piece
It's been confirmed sea curses won't be usable/playable, only story characters/NPCs will have em, as there's only 1 in existence per curse
So their devil fruits basically
@@averagehuman-gf3qc yes
I wonder if it will be if only one player can have a certain curse
I’ve seen I felt and I died by it Trigno I’m looking at you
cataclysm magic:
vetex has destroyed mount othrys
Nice background music, It’s just a burning memory but literally 🔥🔥
So curses are basically special paramicia and logia fruit from one piece?
yes but better, sea curses doesn't need to be train to grow stronger, the sea curse grows stronger itself, unlike devil fruit it requires learn and train to grow stronger.
It would be cool if there was a kind of fighting spirit curse mainly for strength or beserker. * not a stand lol *
cloud curse... maybe it created the flying islands?
You're wrong. It's Vetex's cataclysm magic.
Whens this update coming
or if ur a regular player is just shadow. shadow is the most powerful magic but it has no synergies
Is there a poison sea curse
They fr sound like Devil Fruits
That's the inspiration.
Its so strong that it gives you the title curse thief!
I thought promethean fire magic/curse > inferno's fire?
correct
the peacekeeper is keeping most curses by themself not fair ☹
he's destroying them, not keeping them
Thanks for telling me even though i already know this one
@@dumboboi8662 you literally said he's keeping them
I just cant wait till arcane reborn releases 4th sea bro
Thats a month ago
imo if they were added(this is a hypothetical mr. um actually we will not be getting sea curses 🤓🤓🤓) Id say that they would be really good in raw power, however as a sort of balancing feature they would have less moves than any other route in the game, im thinking only 5 to 10 at max level, you can get as many as you want, but you will have to replace slots in the singular curse bar you would get. Id think that maybe we could get like weaker versions of the actual curses by some scientist dude idk, allowing multiple players to have the same one, and also partially or fully remove the whole logia dodge crap from our loadouts.
heartaches in the background goes hard
Well you missed the time curse which was used by some broken bounty hunter who was known for only using a wooden sword, his strength and slashes causing blood flowers when slashing enemies. Really broken curse. Also Torren is the wielder of the darkflame curse, and is way stronger than basically almost everybody in the verse, including Zeus, Theos, Peacemaker, Cursebeard, Morock, AO protagonist, etc. However he isnt the strongest because he isnt ranked #1 in like this group called the 11 unknowns or something.
Torren Corvus Cross, Kingslayer whose backstory has to do with some kingdom I forgot but I read about it somewhere. His strength scales with his anger, and does not really have a limit. He can easily destroy the AO/AA world if mad enough (break the planet).
He got sealed by 4 other unknowns because they were scared of him. Vetex and techno apparently implemented him but nobody could figure out how to unseal him since the 4 spots were hard to find (3rd sea) He is sealed under seas torment and two of the spots were in caves.
Apparently if you do manage to summon and kill him, you are awarded either this accesory forgot its name or his sword.
Source for info is techno's old messages and a lot of digging back in AA days
sond isn't canon for sure
torren's strength definitely isn't canon
11 unknowns aren't canon, and half their members were weaker than cursebeard when they were still canon
and before anyone tries to source the ghosts trying to talk about "the mistwalker" or "kingslayer", torren's canonicity is not the problem, it's his strength. The reason he was never canonized was because he was just a dark souls character that just beat everyone "just cuz", if tech and vetex are ever bringing torren back, they're going to make him significantly weaker
Not to sound like a complete nerd but if your including curses as a magic type the strongest magic would be the promethean fire curse otherwise its just promethean fire magic
sorry if this came off as rude or insulting
curses are based of magic, excluding external curses ofc
Well i Personally find it dumb how sea curses are a huge part of the lore but players wont ever be able to use them
They are so powerfull If they would be added, the Players that got them would Just completly dominate everyone
well im certent that vetex could balance it and most of them got made into lost magic anyways@@marcrohden8300
@@Reppen555nope, there is no way to balance them lol. The lost magics are just powerful mutations. If you saw the mutation sheet that vetex posted when planning for Arcane Adventures, most of the lost magics are literally just mutations.
It's just a burning memory.
How to get a sea curse?
You cant, the main story is the player cannot obtain sea curse
@@DummyCakes oh too bad
İs that flame just special for iris or just fire but different logo
its flare magic a lost magic version of the fire magic which is stronger than fire
She has a rare lost magic called flare, which I believe is a combination between plasma and fire magic. It is it’s own magic to answer your question.
@@BlueSoulGamer its light + fire
Trello once said it was a magic with low impact damage that focused on DoT and AoE
@@onyxcosmium6586 Basically a weaker version of the Sun magic(Sun magic is an ancient magic)
Traingo the volcano 💀
Just realized Durza and Morden have the same title of "Curse Thief"
i think Durza's title was "the magic thief"
@@StupidestStorm still pretty similar... I could see a possible connection in the future between them.
@@maskedmidas1655like maybe morden is durzas reincarnation?...
@@StupidestStorm An important detail you COMPLETELY ignored is the fact that Rupin actually had one of the Grand Fire Curses, and possibly the most powerful of them all, I mean the dude didn't get the title "Crimson Demon" just by spouting a few fire spells.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 fire isnt a grand fire curse
cursebeard is blackbeard confirmed
Freedrock could actually be the strongest person in arcane right now for all we know.
At least the strongest human
back when unknowns were canon peacekeeper was stronger than freedrock, pretty sure thats still the case
I'm so glad we are never going to get curses they are so op😭🙏🏾
Are you sure about that?
morden use the death curse
If it is true that Nero Caesar had the death curse pls tell me HOW SOME OF IT WAS PASSED TO CALVUS I NEED TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS
its still not confirmed what curse nero had, but whatever the curse it was, maybe for lore reasons nero was able to have the curse passed down through the bloodline?
@@StupidestStorm i wonder how he managed to pass a curse down his bloodline if he had one maybe if vetex confirms he has a curse then he will explain how
My theory is that because u become the element of the curse when you have kids some of the magic energy of the curse also passes down to your kids 🤷♂️
i thought it was the apocolyptic bringer curse he had? (nero)
I'm pretty sure he had the Apocalypse Bringer curse. Apocalypse Bringer is a very uncontrollable and dangerous magic .
@@cardinaluk i need to check the wiki again i forgot
I personally think promethean flame magic is the most powerful (i have not watched the video yet)
when they adding women curse?????
magic absorption
So basically most of curses are logias from one piece
Yup, the game takes a lot of inspiration from one piece