James Tunney has asked me to post this message in order to clarify a remark made during this interview: Rather than being a Pope, there was a Bishop of Cagliari called Lucifer in the fourth century who was at times a representative of Pope Liberius and who argued and wrote on disputed theological matter.
@Pamelia Ferreira Why do you say that? The word used in the Greek New Testament is λογοσ (logos). Logos is definitely not one of the several Koine Greek words for "love".
This is one of my favorite talks. Words and sound do matter. And they are magical, in sense. The Irish know this better than most. And so does Tunney. He weaves a magic spell every time.
Jeffrey and James equals magic.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐😍💯 I again had to watch it until the end. No way to divide it into chunks, too good to stop in the middle. Who else watched it till the end?
My dog was chased by a Wolf once, and I called to her to come in. I could see the Wolf was going to catch her, and in desperation and instinct I let out a might KIA (martial art yell) both my dog and the Wolf stopped in an instant and just looked at me. Then I pulled my dog in and slid the glass patio door shut, just in time. The wolf sat there starring at me with those yellow eyes for at least 3 minutes. Sound does WORK
Wow! A lawyer and adept student of spirituality and culture ( both past and present) who understands how Ericksonian hypnosis and NLP powerfully impacts individuals. Not only that, but he recognizes they should be employed with wisdom rather than power. Tunney never fails to amaze!
Deep gratitude for the conversations with Mr Tunney. It seems that as our relationship with the universe passes across the corpus callosum it is fixed to language. As we interpret this language back in to relationship, we seem limited to linguistic models, themselves a limited representation of what is. We photocopy our moments of relationship with the universe, then discuss the photocopy as if it was the original. But it is not. Really enjoyed the conversation here regarding the relationship between written and spoken word where written word is locked in limited human constructed models, while spoken/sung words maintain a relationship to the resonate universe we occupy. The Now/Tao. Thank you for your unflinching energy for communication Mr Mishlove, it's enough to make a person more than before. I'm blessed with some beautiful walks here in the west of Ireland, but since I've started walking with you in my ears, I've noticed the vista more beautiful. With thanks for helping me connect with what was always there.
Yet another extraordinary, awe-inspiring, magical conversation with the magnificent, great soul James Tunney. While listening to JT I’m often reminded of another of Ireland’s great souls John O’Donohue. I wonder if they were friends?
I wonder if I listened to this before but I have listened to lots of the JM/JT interviews, and this one is really a gem. One of the best. It deserves more views.
“The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish.” - Terence McKenna
@Myth Tree I know what you're saying.. It's just that there's something in these words that I intuitively feel it's true although I can't fully intellectualize it. Words are the gate through which our mind can conceptualize the world so I feel that the their power is much greater than we can imagine.
You're a courier of a greater force. Thank you James Tunney. I look forward to reading your works and learning from you. Excellent interview gentlemen!
The ancient Egyptian people understood the power of the word - with their medu netjer. The Cippus of Horus are an excellent symbol of this. Even an unspoken word creates a thought form. We create ourselves through language.
I enjoy listening to James and your questions are probing and insightful Jefferey. Religions have understood that power lies in the tongue and as a hypnotist, I can vouch for the idea: “A gentle answer quiets anger, but a harsh one stirs it up.” Proverbs 15:1 “Kind words bring life, but cruel words crush your spirit.” Proverbs 15:4 “Thoughtless words can wound as deeply as any sword, but wisely spoken words can heal.” Proverbs 12:18 “Words have the power to destroy or heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world.” Buddha
Another marvelous talk, Gentlemen. Thank you. The thing that blew my mind was when I saw that the cymatic pattern of a photon of light- is a Maltese Cross!!
Wonderful! What a treat. When I was little, I had a completely black kitten. My mother said we should call it Lucifer. Then we found out it was female. So she was called Lucy fer short.
Tunney is a humble, and honorable man. Not just because he despises smartphones. But because he is not unwilling to risk himself just in order to comply with what's happening around him. That being said, he's just human. And should be treated as such, as I'm sure he'd like it to be that way too.
To James Tunney: How can you feel so strongly about spirit's dominance & also despise transhumanism? I feel that we should recognise the role of our body first of all, & I am in love with our wild world.
Actually, CZECH was the first vulgate language in the sense that the original New Testament was written in Septuagint Greek before being translated into Latin, and later Czech in the form of the Kralice Bible (pronounced "kralitzeh"). The reason was that Czech was a fashionable language that many people in the English court and upper society spoke, like Edward Kelly, John Dee, and even the Queen of England. Part of its allure comes from the fact that it has the fewest vowels of any modern language, a more complicated grammatical structure than Latin, and almost no synonyms, meaning that one can convey ideas unambiguously using a much shorter length of text than any other language.
Caught this this morning, just as I'm about to pick up an ordered book by Rabbi Jill Hammer on the power of the word. She has written on the original Kabbalistic text.
Excellent. I gave a lecture on this subject some years ago to the Glasgow TS. So James mentioning our local expression was 'magic' made me smile! .Hebrew was a big magical language even for 'Christian' Kabbalists, and the Masons of course. The Aaronic blessing in Hebrew thins the veil. It is worth remembering when we lament the persecution of the Roman Church, the two thousand years it perpetuated the blood libel., and it's brutal persecution of all opposition. James, Karma is tough. The Paulian Church extinguished the Celtic Church and the Druidic inheritance common to Scotland and Ireland. A great interview though. Great respect for James's intellect. And Jeffrey of course. Ive made a list for transcripts I could do. I'll be in touch Jeff! 😂
I like this word association idea, mentioned just a few seconds before 37 minutes in . ...that if you can’t immediately produce a word, you are blocked . indeed, if the person thinks she is being judged based on her answers, she will be blocked, and it will manifest as a delay in providing a word; that is to say, it would suggest that perhaps she is going through life like there’s danger (which of course there is not)
The power of trademark is no joke. There's a rather famous store in my area that, upon just a little analysis, would be generic and unattractive if not for ONE thing...their trademark. It's their secret to their extraordinary success and the company leaders probably don't even realize it.
And then there was light... A star 'was' born... human kind 'is' born, the word used the light of a star from far far away, we were all in the dark on all subjects, ignorant of any facts, instinctively living, but then one day each of us was born, became a star too... and the Devil said, "I'll light the candle"...
are you following that candle? that Devil... Thx... great talk... stay where you are, use that candle as a guide, a tool, and use the wind to do all the rowing, go with that flow... this takes one from that Sorrow into Passion, which can only lead to Joy...
Health and security 'of our future' is by far more important than our wealth.
Another fascinating talk we are blessed to have this wealth of information for free! I must ask is that a James Tunney painting behind him because it’s wonderful!
One can speak from the heart, but can one write , or text from the heart? I have a strong feeling it is possible as well, especially with emoji 😁🙏❤🐸 Music is such an incredible tool for transcendent freedom within one's self. I use it daily
Wow, brilliant, truly. Along the lines of this conversation, one of the many things I'm greatly concerned about for the young is the rhythmic, pounding sounds and the repetitive rhyming, angry and hostile words of (marketed as 'cool') rap so-called music. This genre of music is not a form of artistic expression. Rather, it is an assault (along with other mind and emotions manipulation tactics utilized in social media, videos, and TV programming) against, but not limited to, the young in particular. Historically, this is nothing new. Here however, Tunney convincingly, citing renowned spiritually inspired artistic works, reminds us of our inherent and eternal, no less than Divine nature and advises that we not see merely the immediate harm done, or in the works, then blindly and violently react (as revolts or warfare which is the intent) against others, oneself, one and all -- God no less.
At the root of words/symbols is thought/consciousness. Thought/consciousness is at the root of frequency. A word is a only sound until thought assigns meaning to that sound. In the beginning was God's thought/consciousness (word). We reside "inside" the consciousness of a Great Being.
Elle is my daughter. And im messie Jessie. My pet project is to remove the bad stigma from the word mess. The mess is the whole enchilada. The alternative is no enchilada. Elle was complaining about her hair being a mess, she can straighten it, but the alternative is no hair. It's infinite abundance with the good and bad. It's chaos without boundaries. If it's annoying to people who wish to cherry pick the toppings off the pizza, imagine how hard it is for someone who has no choice but to embody the mess in all aspects. It's hard as hell, people take the mess for granted. Want to control it so their mashed potatoes don't touch their peas.
Hey Jeffery I recall seeing you once speak to Robert Anton Wilson who is both famously Irish and had a lot of clever philosophical ideas, maybe Mr Tunney and you could talk about RAWs "Irish Logic" bits
"For men associate by discourse, and a false and improper imposition of words strangely possesses the understanding; For words absolutely FORCE the understanding, and put ALL things into CONFUSION." -francis bacon (1561-1626)
6:50 I always whistle "who can take a rainbow" ... in the morning when feeding the little people .... birds, ... and am waiting for that one who whistles it back.
Another very thought-provoking discussion, thank you for giving me something interesting to ponder. I particularly agree with Mr. Tunney that we are experiencing a period of "word inflation," which can be detrimental to insight and understanding. I wonder if it is happening in all cultures and in all languages, not only the English language, which seems to invent words and assign new meaning to existing words on nearly a daily basis?
I've had a hard time getting the symbolism. I think I've come to understand it from a strange venue. Listened to a guy talk about his years being abducted by aliens. Can't say he convinced me, but he said they were teaching him their language (over these years) with symbols. This was difficult because a complete symbol was like a paragraph. They would highlight a portion of the symbol to teach him and add another portion as he learned. So, this was a way to condense the information into a mental picture; telepathically. Whereas, an apple would be easy information to convey because it's material, non material information would be conveyed with symbols?
I wonder if Word has more meaning. In my experience from a PSI perspective as well, the word is sign and symbol as much as it is replacement and power (NLP or psyop). In that (PSI) some Words correspond with "points on future maps." A word might be revealed or stand out that corresponds with future happening. Often you can test this parapsychologically but I would think testing would occur in a better respect if you could match a series of multiple singular words with one occurrence where those words might relay rather than matching multiple singular words to separate singular situations.
Language is the House of Being. God expresses himself through language. To gather the words is to atone to the Divine. Those who master the kalam (word) are near to the Divine.
Sound man! Words,words,words ...have power ,in a way everything is language or all is mind & in the modern technological context all is code or digital ie digits/ numbers as in your bank account,the economy or stock market, the digital world where all our interactions & transactions are becoming digitised towards a noosphere or singularity or a total World Wide Web ecosystem that manages ,maintains & controls everything through AI algorithms & digital code or programming This is our modern matrix Also I see religious traditions as translations of truth to a specific locale or people’s or race All stemming from the same source of ancient wisdom which gave us magic words..prayers,mantras Meditations etc to give us power with the divine force or will acting in harmony with it for the good of all rather than petty personal ends or profit There are forces beyond our comprehension & control as mere mortal human beings with our many weaknesss & blind spots But yes it’s all to do with power & its misuse That is why these things were kept secret only accessible to adepts & initiates of utmost integrity & trustworthiness after strenuous initiations of & into the secret orders But now as Steiner said modern life is the initiation as we are pushed to the brink with all that’s happening in the world right now But also the concept of mentalism or ‘all is mind’ as in esoteric & new thought ideas or idealism Mind over matter meaning we can manifest out of the unmanifest potential of the universe whatever we need for life & the good of all ie prayer or high magic Worth looking at William Walker atkinsons work in this context A lawyer also who delved into & wrote many profound books on this stuff Also under pseudonyms such as the kybalion by the three initiates There are many of his audios if u look him up here on utube But yes the basic tenets of all is mind / consciousness or all is vibration make sense of this in a metaphysical or physical or parapsychological context But only a few traditionally posssess this knowledge or power & are capable of handling it, the high priest or king,shaman ,wizard,Druid,bard or medicine man But the more you know about this type of thing the more cautious we must be I think harmony with the Tao or natural law can help all But man has stolen the secrets of nature to create this scientific technological machine that is now in danger of ruling over man if we’re not careful But we are well informed & know what’s going on we have a defence against the insipid psychological manipulation of the mass media & political theatrics that are going on now O brave new world that has such people in it Man can either use the machine becoming its master or become more & more a slave to technology and this vast technological empire we have created that threatens the human race but also provides the means for great learning,creativity & innovation to help solve many of the overwhelming challenges we face as a human society Now is the time of a new renaissance of the spirit Amen
I’m working on a book with these ideas & I agree with most of what James says here Just trying to clarify the current situation we’re in collectively etc in this hi tech empire of the mind we’re living in! Looking forward to more contributions here..
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Every time I hear the word "abracadabra" all I can think of is that scene in Half Baked where they're meeting with Sampson for the cops and rhe code word for the cops to come in is abracadabra. Hearing Dave Chappell screaming "ABRA-CADA-BRA!" when they don't show up is hilarious. Wtf happened to comedies?
Fascinating as ever. But no reference, beyond chant (cantare etc) to music, music of the spheres etc. Also, abracadabra, has a dark etymology and words such as Hocus Pocus are political caricatures (hoc est corpus meum ) showing the power to manipulate popular opinion.
Francis Bacon "The control of information is something the elite always does, particularly in a despotic form of gov. Info, knowledge, is power. If u can control info, u can control ppl." James Tunney seems to be a reincarnation of him. Compare pics
The vibrations of sound making sand on paper vibrate, or making lit water vibrate -- a mantra manifest? hu.pinterest.com/pin/60446819971431371/ 29:00 - regarding the 'literal minds' of computer programmers: as a computer programmer of 40 years, grandson of one of the UK's first computer programmers, I must point out that you have a made an understandable gross generalization that is less accurate than many gross generalizations. There are very many programmers who are far from literalists, and in AI this is more true than anywhere else. In own AI class, 20+ years ago, we had many qualified philosophers and arts students -- I myself came with a BA in English. AI is many sided, but a large part of the research relies upon an interdisciplinary study of consciousness and humanity. Regarding anti-trust against powerful (IT) corporations - those corporations are funding the Democratic Party in the US, which gives them a massive protection. Hopefully that will soon change. 40:00 - I think the Islamic religion 'spread' to Spain (and North Africa) to because of its content, but because they murdered everyone who disagreed. Delighted to hear James' reading of The Tempest -- I had to fight for that reading at college, against the hegemonic post-colonialist reading, though I argue it is not 'magic' but early science, though the difference is slight. Thank you for a stimulating interview! Such a broad subject, so much more to explored.
Swedenborg, demons in Tibet, this stuff was old when I was a kid. Getting a lot of books off a dusty shelf and claiming they are all true is not helping anybody. Those women authors probably are getting exactly the attention they deserve, none.
James Tunney has asked me to post this message in order to clarify a remark made during this interview:
Rather than being a Pope, there was a Bishop of Cagliari called Lucifer in the fourth century who was at times a representative of Pope Liberius and who argued and wrote on disputed theological matter.
Second place 🤣
Bob says we all Pope.
@NibiruLives don't say that please. Donchakno there's a bunch of secretly neuralinked hive mind people who need ego death more than ego inflation? 🤣
@NibiruLives lmao o that explains all the high frequency high tech madness~
@Pamelia Ferreira Why do you say that? The word used in the Greek New Testament is λογοσ (logos). Logos is definitely not one of the several Koine Greek words for "love".
This is one of my favorite talks. Words and sound do matter. And they are magical, in sense. The Irish know this better than most. And so does Tunney. He weaves a magic spell every time.
another Tunney interview! We are blessed.
So true! 💯💕
“Sound will be the medicine of the future.”
- Edgar Cayce
Yes, indeed!
Everything is frequency.
Jeffrey and James equals magic.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐😍💯 I again had to watch it until the end. No way to divide it into chunks, too good to stop in the middle. Who else watched it till the end?
Yeah I always watch these all the way through.
I watch these several times.
James is incredible... his memory and all the connections he makes on so many topics....
My dog was chased by a Wolf once, and I called to her to come in. I could see the Wolf was going to catch her, and in desperation and instinct I let out a might KIA (martial art yell) both my dog and the Wolf stopped in an instant and just looked at me. Then I pulled my dog in and slid the glass patio door shut, just in time. The wolf sat there starring at me with those yellow eyes for at least 3 minutes. Sound does WORK
Pronounced kee-ya?
@@LilyGazou Yes
Sound with intent
Good job.
Wow! A lawyer and adept student of spirituality and culture ( both past and present) who understands how Ericksonian hypnosis and NLP powerfully impacts individuals. Not only that, but he recognizes they should be employed with wisdom rather than power. Tunney never fails to amaze!
Deep gratitude for the conversations with Mr Tunney. It seems that as our relationship with the universe passes across the corpus callosum it is fixed to language. As we interpret this language back in to relationship, we seem limited to linguistic models, themselves a limited representation of what is. We photocopy our moments of relationship with the universe, then discuss the photocopy as if it was the original. But it is not. Really enjoyed the conversation here regarding the relationship between written and spoken word where written word is locked in limited human constructed models, while spoken/sung words maintain a relationship to the resonate universe we occupy. The Now/Tao. Thank you for your unflinching energy for communication Mr Mishlove, it's enough to make a person more than before. I'm blessed with some beautiful walks here in the west of Ireland, but since I've started walking with you in my ears, I've noticed the vista more beautiful. With thanks for helping me connect with what was always there.
Jeffrey's eyes laugh.
Nonstop.
Magic.
❤🙏💫
Yet another extraordinary, awe-inspiring, magical conversation with the magnificent, great soul James Tunney. While listening to JT I’m often reminded of another of Ireland’s great souls John O’Donohue. I wonder if they were friends?
"We are a carrier of a greater force".. I like that. Many thanks Jeffrey and James.
I wrote that same thing. Seems his words did have great affect and resonated with many of us!
Love you two guys!
I wonder if I listened to this before but I have listened to lots of the JM/JT interviews, and this one is really a gem. One of the best. It deserves more views.
“The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish.” - Terence McKenna
@Myth Tree ..doesn't necessarily make his affirmation less relevant.
@Myth Tree I know what you're saying.. It's just that there's something in these words that I intuitively feel it's true although I can't fully intellectualize it. Words are the gate through which our mind can conceptualize the world so I feel that the their power is much greater than we can imagine.
Beautiful last words about the divinity in each of us :)
You're a courier of a greater force. Thank you James Tunney. I look forward to reading your works and learning from you. Excellent interview gentlemen!
The ancient Egyptian people understood the power of the word - with their medu netjer. The Cippus of Horus are an excellent symbol of this. Even an unspoken word creates a thought form. We create ourselves through language.
I enjoy listening to James and your questions are probing and insightful Jefferey. Religions have understood that power lies in the tongue and as a hypnotist, I can vouch for the idea:
“A gentle answer quiets anger, but a harsh one stirs it up.”
Proverbs 15:1
“Kind words bring life, but cruel words crush your spirit.”
Proverbs 15:4
“Thoughtless words can wound as deeply as any sword, but wisely spoken words can
heal.”
Proverbs 12:18
“Words have the power to destroy or heal. When words are both true and kind,
they can change our world.”
Buddha
Tremendous podcast James and Jeffrey!
Talking IS Magic!
Tunney is my favourite:)
This was an exceptionally strong messeage - especially at the end. Thankyou 👍!
Thank you, really appreciate your conversations with James Tunney.
Great conversation there. Shocked i missed it until this long.
Another marvelous talk, Gentlemen. Thank you. The thing that blew my mind was when I saw that the cymatic pattern of a photon of light- is a Maltese Cross!!
Wonderful! What a treat. When I was little, I had a completely black kitten. My mother said we should call it Lucifer. Then we found out it was female. So she was called Lucy fer short.
So wonderful 💕 thankyou both. 🕊️
Wow. We are truly fortunate to have access to talks like these. I am really warming up to Mr. Tunney now. What an intellect. Thank you so much!
Really enjoyed the final words of "not putting oneself down" it was good to hear someone else say this.
I love you James Tunney ❤
The invisible strings are plucked and I feel I have heard this music before. Thank you both for being such wonderful role models.
Thanks for the profound words amounting to the deepest spiritual wisdom.
Tunney is a humble, and honorable man. Not just because he despises smartphones. But because he is not unwilling to risk himself just in order to comply with what's happening around him. That being said, he's just human. And should be treated as such, as I'm sure he'd like it to be that way too.
My kind of discourse! ♡
To James Tunney:
How can you feel so strongly about spirit's dominance & also despise transhumanism? I feel that we should recognise the role of our body first of all, & I am in love with our wild world.
Transhumanism will destroy any semblance we have of free will. Read James' book on Transhumanism.
So fascinating and educational.. so lucky to have your program. Thank you for your gifts to us ..🙏🏻❤️😀
Thank you 🙏 for the knowledge
Actually, CZECH was the first vulgate language in the sense that the original New Testament was written in Septuagint Greek before being translated into Latin, and later Czech in the form of the Kralice Bible (pronounced "kralitzeh"). The reason was that Czech was a fashionable language that many people in the English court and upper society spoke, like Edward Kelly, John Dee, and even the Queen of England. Part of its allure comes from the fact that it has the fewest vowels of any modern language, a more complicated grammatical structure than Latin, and almost no synonyms, meaning that one can convey ideas unambiguously using a much shorter length of text than any other language.
Interesting to consider
Caught this this morning, just as I'm about to pick up an ordered book by Rabbi Jill Hammer on the power of the word. She has written on the original Kabbalistic text.
I adored this interview. It is such a fascinating topic. Thank you so much, James and Jeffrey. I wish you guys love, health, and knowledge!
Great interview!!!
James Tunney...siiigghhhh😍😍
Excellent. I gave a lecture on this subject some years ago to the Glasgow TS. So James mentioning our local expression was 'magic' made me smile! .Hebrew was a big magical language even for 'Christian' Kabbalists, and the Masons of course. The Aaronic blessing in Hebrew thins the veil. It is worth remembering when we lament the persecution of the Roman Church, the two thousand years it perpetuated the blood libel., and it's brutal persecution of all opposition. James, Karma is tough. The Paulian Church extinguished the Celtic Church and the Druidic inheritance common to Scotland and Ireland. A great interview though. Great respect for James's intellect. And Jeffrey of course. Ive made a list for transcripts I could do. I'll be in touch Jeff! 😂
Another fascinating lecture. Bravo.
I resonate with this. Thanks
I like this word association idea, mentioned just a few seconds before 37 minutes in . ...that if you can’t immediately produce a word, you are blocked . indeed, if the person thinks she is being judged based on her answers, she will be blocked, and it will manifest as a delay in providing a word; that is to say, it would suggest that perhaps she is going through life like there’s danger (which of course there is not)
Chant is the root of enchantment. Monks sang plainchant to "enchant" the church to protect it.
Wonderful talk👍 perhaps tracing back Magic to Zoroastrianism also should be talked about. James lives in my old hometown, Göteborg🙂
High value 🙏
So great.
The power of trademark is no joke. There's a rather famous store in my area that, upon just a little analysis, would be generic and unattractive if not for ONE thing...their trademark. It's their secret to their extraordinary success and the company leaders probably don't even realize it.
The Hindu tradition has something called 'The Divine Sense Of Humor' .
It helps one tro stand very still, when necessary....
And then there was light... A star 'was' born...
human kind 'is' born, the word used the light of a star from far far away, we were all in the dark on all subjects, ignorant of any facts, instinctively living, but then one day each of us was born, became a star too... and the Devil said, "I'll light the candle"...
are you following that candle? that Devil...
Thx... great talk... stay where you are, use that candle as a guide, a tool, and use the wind to do all the rowing, go with that flow... this takes one from that Sorrow into Passion, which can only lead to Joy...
Health and security 'of our future' is by far more important than our wealth.
So timely after that Paula White spectical which was incredible sight to behold
Another great interview, thank you.
Another fascinating talk we are blessed to have this wealth of information for free! I must ask is that a James Tunney painting behind him because it’s wonderful!
Yes it is.
Fascinating.
One can speak from the heart, but can one write , or text from the heart? I have a strong feeling it is possible as well, especially with emoji 😁🙏❤🐸 Music is such an incredible tool for transcendent freedom within one's self. I use it daily
Signs and Symbols rule the world.
What he's saying at 11:34 aligns with Michael Aquino's perspective on black magic
Wow, brilliant, truly. Along the lines of this conversation, one of the many things I'm greatly concerned about for the young is the rhythmic, pounding sounds and the repetitive rhyming, angry and hostile words of (marketed as 'cool') rap so-called music. This genre of music is not a form of artistic expression. Rather, it is an assault (along with other mind and emotions manipulation tactics utilized in social media, videos, and TV programming) against, but not limited to, the young in particular. Historically, this is nothing new. Here however, Tunney convincingly, citing renowned spiritually inspired artistic works, reminds us of our inherent and eternal, no less than Divine nature and advises that we not see merely the immediate harm done, or in the works, then blindly and violently react (as revolts or warfare which is the intent) against others, oneself, one and all -- God no less.
hehe... I like this guy... WHAT IF... WHAT IF PEOPLE WERE JUST HONEST!!
At the root of words/symbols is thought/consciousness. Thought/consciousness is at the root of frequency. A word is a only sound until thought assigns meaning to that sound. In the beginning was God's thought/consciousness (word). We reside "inside" the consciousness of a Great Being.
Logos. The word. The world is made of words.
Elle is my daughter. And im messie Jessie. My pet project is to remove the bad stigma from the word mess. The mess is the whole enchilada. The alternative is no enchilada. Elle was complaining about her hair being a mess, she can straighten it, but the alternative is no hair. It's infinite abundance with the good and bad. It's chaos without boundaries. If it's annoying to people who wish to cherry pick the toppings off the pizza, imagine how hard it is for someone who has no choice but to embody the mess in all aspects. It's hard as hell, people take the mess for granted. Want to control it so their mashed potatoes don't touch their peas.
An open faucet of information ☝️😅👍
Hey Jeffery I recall seeing you once speak to Robert Anton Wilson who is both famously Irish and had a lot of clever philosophical ideas, maybe Mr Tunney and you could talk about RAWs "Irish Logic" bits
Wilson was born in America, I think he went to Trinity college Dublin and famously lived with a witch whilst residing there.
"For men associate by discourse, and a false and improper imposition of words
strangely possesses the understanding;
For words absolutely FORCE the understanding, and put ALL things into CONFUSION."
-francis bacon (1561-1626)
6:50 I always whistle "who can take a rainbow" ... in the morning when feeding the little people .... birds, ... and am waiting for that one who whistles it back.
EVERYTHING is a Word...
cool painting behind you man, is it one of yours?
Another very thought-provoking discussion, thank you for giving me something interesting to ponder. I particularly agree with Mr. Tunney that we are experiencing a period of "word inflation," which can be detrimental to insight and understanding. I wonder if it is happening in all cultures and in all languages, not only the English language, which seems to invent words and assign new meaning to existing words on nearly a daily basis?
I've had a hard time getting the symbolism. I think I've come to understand it from a strange venue. Listened to a guy talk about his years being abducted by aliens. Can't say he convinced me, but he said they were teaching him their language (over these years) with symbols. This was difficult because a complete symbol was like a paragraph. They would highlight a portion of the symbol to teach him and add another portion as he learned. So, this was a way to condense the information into a mental picture; telepathically. Whereas, an apple would be easy information to convey because it's material, non material information would be conveyed with symbols?
I gotta fever and the only prescription is more James Tunney!
Good man
I wonder if Word has more meaning. In my experience from a PSI perspective as well, the word is sign and symbol as much as it is replacement and power (NLP or psyop). In that (PSI) some Words correspond with "points on future maps." A word might be revealed or stand out that corresponds with future happening. Often you can test this parapsychologically but I would think testing would occur in a better respect if you could match a series of multiple singular words with one occurrence where those words might relay rather than matching multiple singular words to separate singular situations.
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Language is the House of Being. God expresses himself through language. To gather the words is to atone to the Divine. Those who master the kalam (word) are near to the Divine.
I tend to regard the English language as a pet lizard that has mishappendly contorted itself into a dragon.
@Art Chave Lol!
I imagine the logos can evolve .
Sound man! Words,words,words ...have power ,in a way everything is language or all is mind & in the modern technological context all is code or digital ie digits/ numbers as in your bank account,the economy or stock market, the digital world where all our interactions & transactions are becoming digitised towards a noosphere or singularity or a total World Wide Web ecosystem that manages ,maintains & controls everything through AI algorithms & digital code or programming
This is our modern matrix
Also I see religious traditions as translations of truth to a specific locale or people’s or race
All stemming from the same source of ancient wisdom which gave us magic words..prayers,mantras
Meditations etc to give us power with the divine force or will acting in harmony with it for the good of all rather than petty personal ends or profit
There are forces beyond our comprehension & control as mere mortal human beings with our many weaknesss & blind spots
But yes it’s all to do with power & its misuse
That is why these things were kept secret only accessible to adepts & initiates of utmost integrity & trustworthiness after strenuous initiations of & into the secret orders
But now as Steiner said modern life is the initiation as we are pushed to the brink with all that’s happening in the world right now
But also the concept of mentalism or ‘all is mind’ as in esoteric & new thought ideas or idealism
Mind over matter meaning we can manifest out of the unmanifest potential of the universe whatever we need for life & the good of all ie prayer or high magic
Worth looking at William Walker atkinsons work in this context
A lawyer also who delved into & wrote many profound books on this stuff
Also under pseudonyms such as the kybalion by the three initiates
There are many of his audios if u look him up here on utube
But yes the basic tenets of all is mind / consciousness or all is vibration make sense of this in a metaphysical or physical or parapsychological context
But only a few traditionally posssess this knowledge or power & are capable of handling it, the high priest or king,shaman ,wizard,Druid,bard or medicine man
But the more you know about this type of thing the more cautious we must be
I think harmony with the Tao or natural law can help all
But man has stolen the secrets of nature to create this scientific technological machine that is now in danger of ruling over man if we’re not careful
But we are well informed & know what’s going on we have a defence against the insipid psychological manipulation of the mass media & political theatrics that are going on now
O brave new world that has such people in it
Man can either use the machine becoming its master or become more & more a slave to technology and this vast technological empire we have created that threatens the human race but also provides the means for great learning,creativity & innovation to help solve many of the overwhelming challenges we face as a human society
Now is the time of a new renaissance of the spirit
Amen
Much appreciated
I’m working on a book with these ideas & I agree with most of what James says here
Just trying to clarify the current situation we’re in collectively etc in this hi tech empire of the mind we’re living in! Looking forward to more contributions here..
@Christi Simcoe thank you ! Watch this space..🇮🇪✌️
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Every time I hear the word "abracadabra" all I can think of is that scene in Half Baked where they're meeting with Sampson for the cops and rhe code word for the cops to come in is abracadabra. Hearing Dave Chappell screaming "ABRA-CADA-BRA!" when they don't show up is hilarious. Wtf happened to comedies?
Yes
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Fascinating as ever. But no reference, beyond chant (cantare etc) to music, music of the spheres etc. Also, abracadabra, has a dark etymology and words such as Hocus Pocus are political caricatures (hoc est corpus meum ) showing the power to manipulate popular opinion.
Magical word: Please.
Shacharit, in 15 minutes.
Francis Bacon "The control of information is something the elite always does, particularly in a despotic form of gov. Info, knowledge, is power. If u can control info, u can control ppl." James Tunney seems to be a reincarnation of him. Compare pics
I don't know but interesting thought....
J Miishlove reminds me of David Lee Roth who is also Jewish!
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Lōgos yip a global language.
Alphazeta?
The vibrations of sound making sand on paper vibrate, or making lit water vibrate -- a mantra manifest? hu.pinterest.com/pin/60446819971431371/
29:00 - regarding the 'literal minds' of computer programmers: as a computer programmer of 40 years, grandson of one of the UK's first computer programmers, I must point out that you have a made an understandable gross generalization that is less accurate than many gross generalizations. There are very many programmers who are far from literalists, and in AI this is more true than anywhere else. In own AI class, 20+ years ago, we had many qualified philosophers and arts students -- I myself came with a BA in English. AI is many sided, but a large part of the research relies upon an interdisciplinary study of consciousness and humanity.
Regarding anti-trust against powerful (IT) corporations - those corporations are funding the Democratic Party in the US, which gives them a massive protection. Hopefully that will soon change.
40:00 - I think the Islamic religion 'spread' to Spain (and North Africa) to because of its content, but because they murdered everyone who disagreed.
Delighted to hear James' reading of The Tempest -- I had to fight for that reading at college, against the hegemonic post-colonialist reading, though I argue it is not 'magic' but early science, though the difference is slight.
Thank you for a stimulating interview! Such a broad subject, so much more to explored.
Behold! I send you out asleep amidst the woken
Swedenborg, demons in Tibet, this stuff was old when I was a kid. Getting a lot of books off a dusty shelf and claiming they are all true is not helping anybody. Those women authors probably are getting exactly the attention they deserve, none.
Yes! Logos is power. Both spoken and Unspoken.
Another great interview. Thank you ❤