Christian Views on Abortion and Homosexuality | The Dick Cavett Show
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2020
- Archbishop of Canterbury, Michael Ramsey debates with Jane Fonda over his stance on other beliefs and atheism, and discusses the laws surrounding homosexual relations and abortion.
Date aired - March 13, 1970 - Jane Fonda, Peter Fonda, Henry Fonda, Michael Ramsey and Mort Sahl
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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I'm amazed at the range of guests that Dick Cavett had, it's just great, and the question so down to earth
Other than every time he was with a black person. Dick Cavett was intentionally or unintentionally racist every time they had a black guest.
@@poopsanchez6449 eh...no
@@joefitzgerald2762
He was still unintentionally racist.
You can't just eh... no something that has literal proof on the channel.
@@joefitzgerald2762 watching him drop the N bomb around Eddie Murphy is cringe every time, but they were apparently good friends, so meh. I think you have to take with a pinch of salt the decades of wrong perception that people were brought up with, so they don't even realise their behaviour was off, I'm sure at the time he was seen as socially progressive
no kim kardashian either.
I cant believe I watch these videos now in 2020 and enjoy them so much. Modern day talk shows are literal garbage when compared to those of yesteryear.
Jason Creamer I thought Charlie Rose was the only halfway decent one, until the #metoo movement ruined him.
Mike well, he ruined himself when sexually abused women.
yes, and no stupid nonstop singing segments.
This is ONE TV show. TV in the 70s was utterly atrocious, there was almost nothing to watch. It was very boring; these are selectively curated clips on UA-cam. You’d have to wait for the one hour on one day per week when something decent was scheduled. You still had the terrible late night shows. There’s much, much more variety and choice now. Go find a podcast or an in-depth interview show on UA-cam or on your favourite streaming service, and you will find the same calibre of discussion.
@@2009hdj Thats true, I remember when I was a kid in the 80's, we only had cartoons on a saturday morning for four hours. Now kids can watch cartoons all day if they want.
So refreshing. 16 minutes of controversial topics being talked about without name calling and blame tossing. Social media aint social.
Back when offence wasn't a roommate. I wish we could love people and still disagree.
"Social media ain't social."--good quote.
You misplaced the “i” in ain’t. It’s anti social.
Genuinely intelligent celebrities too.
Says the guy posting on social media lol
He sounds like how most Americans imagine all British people speaking
Yes, I just added 25 points to his IQ
Let's admit he is the way English people speak like 😭😭😭😭jk
@Arie the Aries LOL no, there are a wide range of English accents. His isn't as common as you think. Mine is most similar to his, however.
@@wrathford I was kidding I know there is a huge range in English accents
@@wrathford your blessed to have your accent
I came here expecting to be offended by his views on abortion & homosexuality but was entirely underwhelmed. People were much less polarized & full of bile back in the day. More capable of navigating the middle ground & engaging with opposing viewpoints without melting down. Civility has died & we're all the poorer for it.
To be true most people defending his views nowadays are still polite and ready to have a civilized conversation. The opposition often demonize them and avoid polite debates.
@@DC-ss2jx Exactly right. We have the tribe and their postmodernist agenda to thank for that.
You’ll notice that he doesn’t speak in talking points. He doesn’t troll with his statements. He makes statements as the original thoughts come to his mind. That’s what is missing today. It’s one thing to have a conversation with some where you disagree. It’s another when they start spouting talking points. It’s not a conversation at that point. It’s propaganda, which doesn’t deserve respect.
@@harveydodd8803 he doesn't hate atheist stop playing the victim. And the pro life side are not the ones constantly trying to shut down the others and avoiding debate.
@José Cardoso Literally didn’t say anything about him hating anyone. You’re responding to the wrong person. As for shutting down the debate with pro-lifers, most people would have a reasonable debate if they weren’t constantly being told the same lazy talking point about how “life begins at conception” and then being called baby killers. It’s not exactly the most solid foundation for respectful discourse.
Jimmy Kimmel could never handle such a personality
You mean a bigot? An enabler of child abuse?
I wouldn't even talk to him.
@@colaboytje jimmy kimmel is an enabler
@@belachaney No idea. But if he is, lock him up
@@colaboytje anyone who promotes lgbt to children is an enabler
Not only that, but honestly how many viewers would a late show pull in if their guest was the Archbishop of Canterbury? When the networks only care about ratings, there's no way any late show host is bringing on this type of guest.
Look at his eyebrows go!
ROFL
I know! So funny!
I can’t tell where his eyebrow ends and the eyelid begins.
Hes the original conehead
That's where his power is. ;););)
the Archbishop looks like Terry Bradshaw (10 years from now)..
Lol
GeorgeWashingtonX Have you seen Terry lately? He sort of looks like that right now.
GeorgeWashingtonX , I thought the same thing
I was thinking Peter Boyle. He has a Young Frankenstein look to him.
@@bryonj.5526 Hello fellow Bryon!
I keep waiting for him to say "Now Bond, PAY ATTENTION, and try to bring this back in one piece"!
Added bonus: Fonda's sitting in an 'ejector ' chair, and he pushes the button!
Thanks for that comment! That's some great stuff.
Dude, i love you
Haha hilarious. Perfect observation. Loved it, so thanks!!
@@christopherconnor5436 Cool!
The Archbishop was clearly a gentleman and a scholar of the old school. That's not a bad thing, really.
Didn't he get caught with a dick in his mouth?
@@stephenmurphy1003: No: even his detractors never identified that as one of his weaknesses.
@@christopherseton-smith7404,
Oh my bad. It must have been some other archbishops. 🤪🤪🤪😆🤣😆🤣😜😛😝😝😁😁✌💓✌✌❤💕✌😝😛😅😁🤪😆🤣
It was turning into the Jane Fonda inquisition. 🤥
@Jay Bee and the bible is also not a good representation of Jesus.
killer dress. purple is definitely his color
Wizards wear gowns not dresses, smh.😶
It’s called a cassock.
M5 T called a “cassock” or “soutane”. Evolved from medieval academic dressing of professors, which itself was taken from Roman senatorial and other officials Street wear
that colour is standard for the clergy of Church of England ...
D Kirk 😂😂😂😂
Hes trying to hypnotize us with all that rapid eyebrow motion.
Best Monty python sketch ever
ByCats4Cats ...😄👍🏾
Jane Fonda playing the dumb bimbo was Oscar worthy.
Laughed so hard 😂
I was 3 minutes 57 in and thought I might wager a comment .then I thought I might browse a wee bit ... then proceeded to stumble upon your comment .at the end of this clip if your comment is valid I shall induce a like. In any case ...carry on how now brown cow how now brown cow how now brown cow
How wrong we both were
That would be an ecumenical matter.
YES!
THAT.....THAT....THAT!
Your grace, will it still be a Grade 2 Relic.. after they.. remove it?
Okay Father Jack
DRINK!
Gosh darn it. He sounds so much like I imagined the Archbishop of Canterbury would sound like.
I love these videos. Thank you guys for uploading them!
That Justin Bieber's a cheeky bugger.
😂😂
I want this man to dictate every audiobook ever
It would be wonderful
Hello Fellow Orioles fan
he sounds a lot like Stephen Fry
I want to hear him simply say the word
Preposterous
there’s a BBC series featuring 3 ladies who were in their late teens-early twenties in the Victorian era. One of the ladies has the same way of speaking. I love it :)
That was a delightful conversation. It really was enjoyable to hear the Archbishop's views and perspectives at an interesting time.
I’m curious to know how many folk actually listen to the content of video rather than point out common human flaws.
I'll tell ya. The video has 152,666 views, as of me writing this, yet, less than 1.5k comments. So, less than 10 out of every 1000 people who watch this feel a need to speak. Honestly, seeing that brought a smile to my face. More listening than talking :)
Imagine if talk shows today were just half as interesting and intellectually rewarding as this.
Something about this makes me feel so nostalgic for those far off days. Western society and discourse seemed so much more civilised and mature than it does today. I'm sure now many people in the US would have no conception of the significance of the ABoC and care even less. Sad also to say that accent has become exceptionally rare in England and may disappear all together.
It's the same in America, when I was a boy in the 1960s you could tell where a person hailed simply by hearing them speak. Today, in the 21st century, a man from Boston sounds the same as a Southerner!
Cavett seems to be the best-I wish we had this show here in the UK.
Jane Fonda wasn’t paying attention to the subject. The ABC was answering DC’s question about the definition of ecumenism which in this case referred to relations among Christians. So when she questioned his attitude toward the brotherhood of all humans she was off topic as the ABC quickly demonstrated.
Best comment
Erick, Thank you.
That what was going to say ..spot on
Is It called The Dick Cavett Show or The Jane Fonda Show? I love Jane Fonda but come on.
Ignoring the guy going on about Astrology....
Yea she wasn't spot on but at the same time you have to play the politics of air time, especially back then when there was no Twitter for her to go to after taping. She wanted to pick his brain and to be honest it was great watching them discuss things politely. Given the format it was as much a good faith conversation as you could have.
old dude sounds like old stewie griffin
stewie is based on English Rex Harrison
Peter Boyle sure could do a good accent.l
The archbishop could have been played by Robin Williams.
John Cleese would have been more fitting IMO.
The most reacent was not Robin but Rowan Williams. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_Williams
he is truly out of Central Casting
Archbishop Michael Ramsey came from a brilliant family. His brother, Frank Ramsay was considered one of the underrated brilliant mathematicians of his time. His brother died fairly young.
We sure could use more shows like this. It's such a simple idea that's been around for a long time - conversation. It's very refreshing to see guests respectably debate controversial subjects and not shout over one another or throw personal insults at one another.
“Nothing’s achieved by being mournful about it, and I prefer to rejoice in the very impressive quality of the Christian fellowships that we’ve got”
That’s great wisdom we can carry on to multiple facets in life. Love to all from this Buddhist
"I have many atheist friends. I regret their atheism and they may lament my Christianity, but we can be friends". That part.
Although he has his faith he has an open mind as all people should regardless of their beliefs. This man sets a good example for others who share his beliefs as to show how their mindsets should be set
I believe he was possibly the last Archbishop in England, who was not only quite widely admired, but even loved for his approach, even if one disagreed with him.
Have any of you watched his ‘ debate' with Cleese and Idol? They were talking about 'The Life of Brian'. Malcom Muggeridge was there. This man is an idiot (in my humble opinion). Wish I could remember the actual show they were on!!
@@janisthompson9801 : In my opinion you have confused Michael Ramsay, with Mervyn Stockwood. A cursory Google would have identified the then Bishop of Southwark as the Anglican cleric who debated with Muggeridge, Palin and Cleese on a chat show called Friday Night, Saturday Morning in 1979.
I find it curious that you should claim to be so humble, and yet call Michael Ramsay an idiot when he did not take part in this programme you so incompletely recall.
He needs to accept abortion and homosexuality .
Then you can call him open minded otherwise he's narrow minded
Now this is a conversation!
I remember those days when we all could have civil debated and discussions like on this show. We could exchange beliefs without feeling attacked, it is a shame how far we as humans have falling so far in both having internal strength, and confidence, and having the ability to respect others beliefs during discussions. Today, you have one side that wants to force their beliefs and way of life on everyone. Where back then you could walk away from the table remaining being different without feeling like you would be attacked, or your life destroyed for being different from them.
Dissapointed Dick didn't let Jane and Archbishop Ramsey go at it. Great talk show.. I didn't appreciate when I was younger
It wouldn't be a fair debate.
Like putting a baseball team against a soccer team.
I am grateful that during the commercial break Dick asked Jane if he could have his show back.
Jane Fonda was honest, respectful and her questions quite timely. She also had the grace to avoid being argumentative. Dick Cavett was a diplomatic, gracious referee.
Jane Fonda "Respectful?" ... only if you consider her willingness to suspend her hijacking of the interview without further embarrassing yourself. Seriously, she was trying to box a clergyman into a corner.
Not only was Fonda graceful but so was the Archbishop. Both of them were actually listening to each other and could tell they were being heard. As a result, both Fonda and the Archbishop recognized they agreed on one core value that everyone has individual dignity and respect that should be acknowledged and affirmed.
I thought that hippie sounded familiar.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 I couldn't tell myself. I never heard the Archbishop speak before.
@@sew1835 Lol, nice one
Just a couple years after this interview, the great Alistair Sim starred as the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Peter O'Toole picture 'The Ruling Class'. Now, I see where Sim got the best ideas for his portrayal. He was playing THIS archbishop. The similarity in mannerisms and speech patters is too apparent to not be real. Has anyone else ever seen 'The Ruling Class'? If so, do you agree?
Oh yes .Down to the way he held his hands together.
Undoubtedly.
this was awesome and Arch Bishop was great.
That Archbishop of Cantebury is the type of leader church's need. That man was articulate, well thought out, humble (humble for a guy who has the term Archbishop in his title), and seems like an all around sound good chap.
Looking at the pic - I thought Terry Bradshaw was in a new role.
His voice is 🔥
@5:05 certainly... what a combo the Archbishop of Canterbury & Jane Fonda speaking on the brotherhood of the human race and valid ways of communicating with God, I'm 'feeling' this, very effective indeed, Happy New Year!!
@Richard Hiller There's no need to be egotistical & condescending.
“May I ask a question now?”😄
Great video. I thought that the Arch Bishops explanations on controversial subjects perfectly reconciled everything. A very wise man.
So you'd want him as your dad ?
Emperor Palpatine is really trying to hold back on electrocuting Fonda in this clip
The way he swivels at 4:50 is way too reminiscent of how Palpatine turned to meet Yoda lol
About to say look at this "Jane Fonda" and then realizing its literally Jane Fonda...
8:36 - When you realize where Ally Sheedy got the inspiration for her character's look in "Breakfast Club".
"oh all these ads" 6:02 xD
Dick Cavett is great "I think you are asking an impossible question". No fear of reprisal or violence back then.
What an interesting interview!!
1:28
He laughs like the Bleak’s House boss from Donkey Kong Country 3
Bro, dafuq this is accurate and I doubt anyone got it. SNES FOREVER
Lmao best comment on this video 😂
It's so, reasonable. Wish this was still the norm.. The world would be so different
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was an interview with Terry Bradshaw.
Lol. Had to do a double take
Is much more patient and open minded than I went into this assuming.
I loved Cavett's questions, especially the one about the archbishop's opinion on people who have a connection with God but don't go to church or are, as the archbishop phrased it, aloof from it.
Though the Archbishop's positions may not age perfectly, he expressed tolerant, even progressive, thought for the time. It shocks me how close-minded many American evangelical sects remain today. I hope his modern counterparts in other faiths can assume positions he had back then.
Wesley Swain Well said!
I believe hes l ess radical than today's evangelicals..by a long stretch.
I don't know what you mean, Wesley. The Christian faith teaches that every single human being alive is a sinner. In fact, it teaches that we are ALL guilty of complete depravity. It has taught that for 2,000 years. There are behaviors that God as put on the "don't" list and this is for our good, not to make us suffer but to prevent spiritual wounds and suffering.
@@wendyjones6077 no I'm pretty sure you just made all that up.
@@cmhardin37 That is exactly what it teaches.
I love the way he claps and says you MUST stand for something and the way he talks is like a character out of a movie. Jane is too busy thinking of what she is going to say instead of listening.
As he batteries in he's eyebrows
This type of TV is fascinating. A real civil conversation...with well rounded proponants. Cavette is introspective and genuine in his interviewing technique...he should teach a Master class. Again...this type of TV is gone..never to return. As the world spins on..we are destine to total failure....I'm afraid. This was very refreshing and enlightening....Thanks!
Really great show!
‘Very good... but between 1 and 2, it’s a nap’. I love this man.
What an incredibly progressive attitude for a christian at such a time. Very commendable.
Your assumptions have been shattered. +1
We still exist.
Anglicanism literally were the first progressive version of christianity.
Why because he thinks homosexuals need "help"
And abortion is a sin .
That's progressive ??
That's as backward as burning witches
A wonderful example of a classy, empathetic, open-minded Christian. Kudos to you Archbishop Ramsey - I hope all is well up there.
🙏❤
unless he was buried on the moon he's in the dirt with all the other dead guys.
Please explain how someone who thinks homosexuals should have access to "the help they need"
Is open-minded ????
Please explain how someone who is convinced that THEIR God is THE ONE TRUE GOD is open-minded ????
Fonda sounding like every other person without any faith lol. “Can’t we all just be right?”
Hit then nail on the head.
Thats an odd comment, given atheists are more often accused of being dogmatic
Dogmatic in their own beliefs maybe but they tend to always think religious disagreements aren’t a big deal and should be overlooked bcos they don’t think any of its real in the first place.
In which case- can't you all be wrong?
Smh you’re proving my point by only taking the pint of of view of an atheist...just like Fonda did.
I can’t believe that is Jane Fonda!!!
This was about 50 years ago so she looks way younger. However still looks good today at 80 something years old!
back when people wanted to learn and broaden their minds rather than just score points on baseless opinions. Remember, this was a mainstream talk show not some speciality show!
They're all a bunch of closet kiddie Felchers hiding behind cloth
And damn you, Dick Cavett! Yer crackin' me up here!
Between 1 and 3 in the afternoon. I need a moment😂
"Between 1 and 2 it's a nap." 🤣
I don't think the archbishop and Jane Fonda were completely in disagreeance.
her views were explained by his great wisdom.
She really does represent a very stereotypical 60s/70s attitude towards spirituality. Not meaning it as an insult. She asks questions as one supposing truth and spirituality being subjective versus them being universal. Most who are profoundly religious obviously believe in a specific universal truth.
ZN I chose spirituality over religion on the 60s. Jane Fonda made sense. He did not.
Had a very interesting conversation with someone like Fonda recently. So many assumptions about reality that she didn't know she was even making. If I believe something stupid as a Christian, at least I'm aware I chose to believe it.
Jim exactly. It’s like many of those people who believe they’re above choosing what or who to believe in don’t realize that.. that in itself is a belief system. Plus subjective reality is a bizarre topic to even bring up, it’s just not a sincere argument to make.
@@Jim-Mc You "chose" what human social/tribal drives/instincts have you to believe. Human instincts easily override reason/logic.
Gary Williams this is ridiculous. Repent. For God is coming soon.
I love these talk shows from Dick cavett he doesn't need Ed McMahon or any funny skits to do just pure knowledgeable
Just finding this guy in 2022 and I’m so impressed. Seems like almost all media these days just pulls on guests of like mind, the situations he sets up here have some actual substance and significance. It sucks that that’s clearly no longer the norm
Jane Fonda comes off as being Jane Fonda.
As soon as I recognized her when the man came out I just knew she wouldn't be able to stop herself from questioning him to make him sound like an elitist Christian.
@@danielm2554 Well he WAS precisely THAT.
@@danielm2554 She was very condescending, while the Archbishop was gracious and kind to her even though he was clearly the smarter and better educated of the two.
@@ljones436It's possible hes educated yet still believes in Fairy tales.
@@ljones436
Condescending why?... because she questions that which has never and cannot be validated?
I have 2 masters degrees, yet the most important thing I learned in my education is how to think, not "what" to think.
His "education" is in less than credible curricula.
Seminary is not education, it is indoctrination.
Religion is to social welfare, as astrology is to cosmology.
the way he moves his eyebrows it looks like a werewolf transformation from one of The Howling movies
Love this guy!
Wow two people with opposing views having a civil conversation I wish that was still common place
Eyebrow game - devastating.
Dick was extremely thoughtful and measured in his younger days.
I wish we had someone of this calibre as Archbishop of Canterbury today.
or the calibre of Rowan Williams
+Rowan Williams was a protege of Archbishop Ramsey's.
A sensitive and humane figure, lovely to see a fantastic debate here
Oh my... A feeling never left me that this archbishop was an undercover Sith lord.. 😂
“God is dead” doesn’t have anything to do with god actually being dead. It was Nietzsche’s way to say : we can no longer turn to god for our purpose of existence, we must choose our own purpose for living. He was very excited about the possibilities of choosing your own reason for living rather than being told by religion. He did fucking hate judeo-christian religion tho no doubt but god is dead is more about opportunity than simply saying something is dead
Maral Fathalian he reconciled with christian civilisation in his later years, and supposedly begged for forgiveness to the catholic School of thought in his final days
@@CurseCreep What is your source for these spurious rumours of conversion? Nietzsche famously went mad and spent the last years of his life in deepening delirium, so even if there had been a change of heart (of which there is no evidence) it would have been indistinguishable from madness.
@@ottolehto Agreed. I don't believe there is any research that points to what he's said here. Nietzsche remained a fervent dissenter of Christianity until the time he went mad.
@@09wrxin17 Meh he also praised Islam... so... Also his thoughts on the Christian-judeo religions, seems to be more of a chip on his shoulder then anything else.
You are not qualified to choose your own purpose for living.
What an amazing interview.
This man’s books are
very readable!
Whatever you think of the man's opinions, he was allowed to explain them clearly and in detail and without interruption. unheard of these days. A better time.
I was waiting for Jane Fonda to butt in with some fatuous questions. She didn't disappoint me.
@Glinkling Smearnops Sorry, but Fonda never had any intellectual input worth considering.
She showed an utter lack of familiarity with Venn diagrams.
@Funk O'Matic , That was irony, or perhaps what is known among rhetoricians as a "captatio benevolentiae." She didn't really think her questions were naive. She thought they were heroic.
She had no place to chime in under that setting. Her interview was over.
@@feez357 Must agree, she was out of place. And out of her depth.
I used to walk home from jr. high during lunch in order to watch this show. (Im a nerd)
Wise man
Then you must be very smart.
@@targetrender9529 severe nerd. Plus John Lennon interviews were a draw.
The Arch-Bishop is very courageous to stand up for what's right in the face of partisans and anti-Christians.
Hermosa conversación
George C Scott was very convincing as the almighty!
Quite a remarkable video. I had forgotten how much I couldn't care less what Jane Fonda had to say. Thanks for posting!
Yeah she's always supported human rights even if it was people we were killing.... she's a damn traitor. She did nothing good for American propaganda and lies. She was hanging out with the Enemy way before American forces started hanging out with them every year to keep relations good.
Exactly.
Isn't she great!!
@@sew1835 if you like traitors
It's reminded me of how condescending and contradictory religion is
Really like his guy. Would’ve liked to have heard him speak.
Saddens me that 50 years later we're still debating some of these things....
Such hypocrisy Jane, support freedom of thought as long as it's similar to your own.
Sounds like modern day democraps.
It was a just a discussion and an interesting one, with mutual respect shown by both parties. I wish we had more such discussions, not fewer, without name-calling or insults.
Jake Bradminster is an abomination and shouldn't be allowed to live with other people. If you don't agree with me you're a hypocrite and a tyrant and this is just, like, my opinion man.
Pretty sure Jane Fonda doesn’t believe in God so she was supporting ideas that are dissimilar from hers. Maybe follow the Archbishop’s manner and don’t personalize your disagreement with someone such that you feel the need to demonize them.
@@chrismontreuil2206 Referring to them as democraps is hardly an example of championing the concept of freedom and tolerance of thought. Ah irony.
Would have loved to hear more from Jane Fonda, great american patriot.
Pretty poor taste, referring to a traitor as a "great American patriot."
Archbishop Ramsey was a legend, a true scholar, saint, and humble man. He basically preached the truth of the Gospel on a secular TV show, and was me with respect and understanding.
Wonderful
that would be an ecumenical matter
She sounded so PC back then.
People become less PC as they get older.
@@wrathford People can change their mentality when they're older but this is not true. Jane Fonda at 81 is still very similar and got recently even arrested at a protest. She was definitely not the average mind for people around that time, even protested against the Vietnam-war.
More like a post modernist
@@asianview5589 what a clown of a woman
@@mrcoiganable2988 I'll disagree ;) you don't have to like her views, but she is a fighter
3:05 A Very Very Critical Question , Dick 👍🏻
When 2 or more gather, I am there.....
I thought the thumbnail was Terry Bradshaw