Land restitution debate in South Africa
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- The Economic freedom fighters have come out saying it wants land to be expropriated without compensation. Many questions remain unanswered like what would happen if the land in question is the subject of a mortgage.
To discuss the land restitution bill we are now joined by the EFF's Andile Mngxitama and from Agri SA Dr Theo De Jager...
We had invited the department of public works unfortunately they could not make it.
Europeans globally love the idea of nationalism, just not when Africans do it. Reclaim your land peacefully and be prepared for backlash and retaliation from wall street and London. I've got plenty of respect for sa right now
You forget one thing. The E.U (or rather the leftist soon to be dystopian anti-white overlord) has seen that when the white becomes nationalistic there is total chaos and destruction while the non-white nationalist's barely makes any waves. That is why many of the KEY INDIVIDUALS IN THE U.N AND THE E.U HAVE BEEN PLACED IN STRATEGIC POSITIONS TO MAKE SURE ALL NATIONALISTIC SENTIMENTS ARE DROWNED OUT AND DILUTED BY MASS IMMIGRATION. I forgot their names but I KNOW FOR INSTANCE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBLE FOR IMMIGRATION IN THE U.N HAS MARXIST ROOTS.......extreme leftist political views while the other individuals are hardcore socialists. Explains a lot doesn't it. The solution? The E.U AND THE U.N MUST BE UNDONE ASAP....ONLY THROUGH EXTREMELY VIOLENT MEANS CAN WE ACCOMPLISH THIS. Question is..will white men in the west have the ballz to once again step into the breach like our GREAT ANCESTORS DID? NOPE. Lets face it, the white man has bowed to their woman and everybody else. Our time is quickly coming to an end. DEAL WITH IT.
The kind of "nationalism" that you seem to love, i.e. state ownership of land, isn't nationalism. It's slavery. The same laws that you desire to desire to implement gives your government too much control and eventually, that government will control you, via bureaucrats. You've got two choices: overthrow the current system or purchase the land back, legally. Anything else will result in increased government control..... THAT would be far worse than being land-less.
Zeljko Brekalo The super rich elite want the destruction of Europe first. After Europe is sorted out they'll get rid of the African and South Americans.
Taoiseacht
Exactly. The elite are turning the blacks against the people who feed them to deliberately starve them. They're literally chasing away the people who feed them. Typical communism.
Sally www.henrymakow.com/2017/06/Ireland-Was-Always-Ruled%20%20.html This is an article regarding my own country but it's happening all over.
Man Blessings to the South African President.Respect,Love,Blessings to the South African People’s.From the American Diaspora.
Carlos Dias join them, a passport isnt expensive.
Morgan Martin I travel around the numerous times in a year.You’re correct.I will.ill travel to SA next month ✨..I shall join them.
Africa always had great Empires from Kemet (Egypt) down into the interior of Africa. Africa do not need a white savior. That lie destroy Africa. Rise up old Africa and take your land back
Sad just Sad. When it comes to history one can't pick and choose one part of it to justify there actions. Our life here is very short by comparison. Surely we can work together to solve the issues
Zimbabwe did not debate about land..this does not need logic...just take it back...and don't even explain later
And Look where Zimbabwe is today. You must be a really smart person.
@@ntsakomarete3437 and where is SA now? do you know in Zimbabwe most Zimboz own land. Most Zimbos dont have debt..on a national level things are bad, but on a household level, people have fixed assets they can use for collateral...in SA its the opposite...wena you dont even own 1m2 of land...you just brag abt that cute mall you even dont have shares in..
"35 000 commercial farmers feed 50 billion people" Dr De Jager is a clown
There's not even 50 billion people on Earth🤣🤣
Idiot, there only 6 billion peope on the entire planet earth. Who you wanna feed?
SInce the beginning of time, people have fought over land. Lands have been conquered and taken by force, as well as lands being protected from being taken. The indigenous people of South Africa were 'conquered' and their former lands were taken. If they want the land back, they need to take it... but if they advocate for giving their government THAT much control, that they can take land from land owners.... they will end up with a larger problem than what they have now.
Julius malema is fighting at the right track only his group can save South Africa's.
I agree, Robert Magabe was a similar politician and personality to Malema and he really did save Zimbabwe
It didn't start from Jan van riebeck it start with koisan. The Portuguese Explorer documented this in the 1400. No other race existed here besides khoisans.
@Angel Star that is the truth and nothing but the truth.
If you people don't know what to do just elect Marlene as the president of South Africa's to get the land back put these land occupied the land to book for people the killed the comparcet for the people the killed.
I like this debate it's eye opener of what's at risk though while we want our land back
theft is right word, restitution means returning to legitimate owners which is not the case
we did not steal land I for one did not do this and tired of been labelled a land thieve
Ok land thief what ever you say 😂
Stuff the land, somebody stole my car.
If colonism is the root of all problems why does China, Singapure, Taiwan, South Korea all prosper now? They was colonialism there too. The reason is Asians tend to complain far less and work far harder. They know how to build, African countries have not yet proven that they can do that.
list is very long, united staes,canada,australia,singapore,new zealand ,india but only those with a certain ethnicity are hellholes: jamaica,haiti and sub saharan nations
Is there a constitution for land theft? Prison.... but they are saying just leave... Are pay for your crime.
I think there should be an equal distribution of land or at least some comfortable life for even a poor person in SA than to let minority enjoy everything. .this is also an aparthied another kind.
Actually its worse than Apartheid.
The ANC owns 82 % of the land in the country..
The point the white guy is making about the KhoiSan has nothing to do with their race, but all to do with who was here first in Southern Africa. It was the KhoiSan and not the Zulus or Khoza or any other black tribes. If you there for want to redistribute the land back to its original owner then you should give it to someone from the KhoiSan tribes and not any of the other black tribes.
What are the stolen property laws in South Africa?
Andile from Ghana.
The San people are Original Africans the Same as Zulu’s, Xhosa’s, Sotho’s, Shona’s etc. South Africa is part of Africa not an island on its own and Zulu’s, Xhosa’s etc did not arrive in boat. I still wanna hear about these wars and generals and which tribes where in it in the central of Africa? Honestly only argument Boars have is we stole land from the San ok where is the Proof on which tribes stole land from them
The San/khoisan is the ONLY originals. The Bantu and Europeans are visitors. Don't be confused and act like this is your land aswell just because you are black. Go back to central Africa where your ancestors came from.
All pan African are in support.
What ppl do with their land is none of your concern Mr European Guy....worry about Europe.
land is useful if the ppl using it are resourceful
You are getting nothing , get used to it
South Africa's should tolk about land that was taking and killed their people and you are thinking about comparcation my friend don't be stupid, he is tolk ing about money but don't think about the blood of South Africa's you purchase away.
Stop talking so much and take the land back. Then in 100 years from now, SA will be a dominant force in the global market and governed by real Africans. If they keep debating, 100 years from now, they will still be poor and still debating.
stupid and arrogant statement my good sir.
Time will tell. If they had taken the land back after apartheid, there are some 20 year old kids that would have had land right now, instead of still being poor 20 years later. Its time to end this debate and take their land.
Its land stolen from Africans. They dont wanna give it back, take it back.
South Africa is for black people
it is comments like this that make me question the intellect of the white skinned piig
Andile if you ask the Khoi San they will tell you they are not bantu african but are khoi San and the land was taken from them by the bantu and europeans
Go on and take the land,you have more than 70000000 people only in biafra land as supporting your group.
True
There were no Khoisan. There were the Khoi Khoi and the San. These were two different groups of people
There are 18 million black rural South Africans who live on 17 million hectares of black tribal land, which means that there are more black South Africans living on rural land than the total white population of South Africa put together. All black South Africans have land, but they are not allowed to own it because of the tribal land system. Except for the Zulus, all black tribal land is owned by government. So what is the point of farmland expropriation - All that it will do is put more and more farmland in the hands of government - Government does not give title to the land to the black people. No, government only leases it to black people, which is really nothing but the nationalization of farmland and at the end of the day we still have not resolved the land question, just as you have in Zimbabwe? So, the whole land expropriation is just a farce. People don't need land - People need jobs and here the government has been very successful at expropriating jobs from the whites through a process called affirmative action.
If the gentleman is worried about the SA banks being too big to fail as a result of expropriation, then forget the land (for now), and expropriate the banks first.
Ridiculous comment. How to become the next Zimbabwe. What an idiot
Commandment #10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
Refer to the bible as it suits you
pay them to step off
Does Dr De Jonga not know khoi san are black?
I love Dr Theo’s argument!
first its gonna be the farmers land and the next stage is the mines
6:52 "This is not parliament"
I wish he had of said that to me!
I would've told him "Nobody here never needed you to tell them what anything IS or ISN'T MF'R!
And even if Black Africans stole from from OTHER Black Africans, what does that have to do with YOU?!!
Hahaha 4 years the nothing has changed
The Zulu's massacred the Koi San but Andile is ignoring that fact.
I disagree
We don't need your approval.
I see where ndlozi takes his style
The Dr says, “let me finish please, this is not parliament”.
the difference between khoisan and xhosa when pronounced by a pink person is so narrow
the journalist here seems to be appeasing the white man
What's the host wearing? That's some "night life" dress, not something you wear to a debate in tv
I'm digging it. Classy yet sexy.
So basically the land was paid for that money was squandered and now they want the land back smh.
Egg stream campbell what about the genocide?
That's correct, and in 20 years time you will have to pay again
You stole my land
It seems like Khoisans are whites and are from Europe nonsense!
Just take the land back period
It's 2024,now land must be taken back Bohani Soweto
Road to kleptocracy. Could result in Zimbabwe.
Once there was land........And this land belonged to nobody, because there was nobody.......Then came the black man from mid Africa. They walked on the land and lived from it. Then came the white man and see that he can do more with this land. He worked it and developed it......then years went by..... Then the black man wanted the land back......the land that originally belonged to nobody.... Now the white man who developed it and make something of it and achieved something, don't want to give it back.....
Delusional! nc! nc! nc!
Oh your so mature....
Once upon a time there were no white people in Africa and all Africa land belonged to Africans. But, then, whites came and stole land and took it by force. So, now, if they dont give it back, Africans should take it by force.
Its not about color my friend..... In general that's just a figure of speech people use. People talk white, black, yellow, brown all over the world.... but this is something more....this is about one group that build something up..... and now the other group wants to take the benefits......sorry if calling you BLACK. I'll call you African or non-Caucasian if it makes you feel better.
You Boers, Only see Colour (Black , white). Why are you in Africa?
Communist?
I have yet to see a black farmer, farming is nothing like herding cows or sheep, have yet to see a black productive farmer in Zimbabwe..
If this goes through it will spell a disaster for SA.
YES! It will be a disaster for SA. a disaster for Europeans in SA but it will be the birth of a new nation. Sometimes you have to destroy to build.
Are Khoisan people Black or white?
shesBlessed83 they are green I think.
shesBlessed83 They are Africans. That's all that matters.
+DL23KMT they are black and your ignorant knows it!
cyndeewi you are the ignorant one everyone that was born in Africa are guess what AFRICANS wether you like it or not
shesBlessed83 I am Koisan and I am Black
The white dude is all about economics,