Sigma 30mm f1.4 REVIEW for Fujifilm X vs XF 33mm 1.4
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- My review of the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for Fujifilm X-mount!
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00:00 - intro and alternatives
02:33 - Sigma 30mm design and controls
04:37 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm focusing
06:28 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm sharpness landscape
07:48 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm portrait quality
08:47 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm bokeh balls
09:26 - final verdict and sample images
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My review of the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for Fujifilm X-mount!
Sigma 30 f1.4 X-mount at B&H: bhpho.to/3JfaiXp / WEX UK: tidd.ly/360AWox
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00:00 - intro and alternatives
02:33 - Sigma 30mm design and controls
04:37 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm focusing
06:28 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm sharpness landscape
07:48 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm portrait quality
08:47 - Sigma 30mm vs Fujifilm 33mm bokeh balls
09:26 - final verdict and sample images
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Thanks another great review. I’m glad I spent the extra bucks & purchased the 33 , I’m finding it absolutely amazing, The sharpness, AF & colour fidelity stunning,
Mate its a pleasure to watch your review. Great job, keep it up.
Thanks, glad you enjoy them!
would love a comparison with the 35 f2!
Good work!
Have a good week!
Thanks for the detailed analysis!!
You're welcome!
It’d be nice to see how this compares to the Viltrox/tokina 33mm as they are really close in price.
The Sigma loses the body distortion correction when auto-focusing at 5:20, but the Fuji works fine. I believe the Sigma processor does not send the information to the body while changing focus. The information is sent every few ms, and if it does not arrive, the camera body turns distortion correction off instead of using the previous updated value. There is some smoothing applied by the camera, but still, the image flexes like a sail filling with wind.
good observation
Yes please! Please compare with the f2 Fujifilm prime. Speaking of Sigma firmware. How well does the company keep up with Fujifilm firmware upgrades? Would this be an important consideration? Love the sharpness of the Fujifilm lens!
The discount price and properties of the 30mm make it almost an inevitable purchase in X, L, E, m4/3 or Canon
thanks gordon as always
You're welcome!
Really torn between this and the Fuji XF 33mm f1.4, but I'll absolutely have to pick up the Sigma 56mm, that small size is perfect for a longer reach prime for street work!
IMO unless the sigma wins by considerable margin, its better to go for Fuji option to have a seamless tactile shooting experience.
@@nhancao4790 that's what I'm thinking too, plus I prefer that the Fuji is a bang on 50mm equivent as 50 is my most used and preferred focal length. If I can get lucky and snag a 33mm 1.4 second hand at some point I absolutely will do
If you can afford the Fujifilm 33, go for it - the results here should absolutely convince you. Only go for the Sigma 30 if your budget is lower. As for the 56 though, it's really close as you'll see in my next review on Friday.
@@nhancao4790 *if price is no object, remember that the fuji lens is double the price of this one
I think the Sigma 30mm was always the weaker of the 3 siblings, when it comes to sharpness. On EF-M it was also considered not-so-sharp, and the Canon EF-M 34mm the preferred alternative.
useful indeed! Thank you
Nice review, but i honestly believe that people that are considering the Sigma 30mm F/1.4 will be looking at the XF27 F/2.8, the XC 35 F/2 (or the weather sealed XF 35 F/2)
The 56 F/1.4 is a far more interesting lens as there is nothing in Fujis range that competes in the same price
XF 50mm f/2?
@@quikee9195 I temporarily forgot about the 50 f/2 😀
AF speed would be a joke on my XE2. Affirms my decision to get a Sony for these lenses. 18-50 available now too.
I prefer the lenses with the aperture ring.
Nice video. Viltrox vs sigma next!
It's not even close... the XF 33 is going to be so nice on the upcoming 43mp sensor
The firmware update for the Sigma has improved autofocus drastically in all situations. Compared to the fujicron lenses it's faster and snappier and doesn't lack to much behind to the 33mm. A value winner for sure.
How do I understand firmware update? There is no software in the lens right?
@@mathisvorndran8328 you would download the updated software from the manufacturer's site, put it on an SD card and while your camera is off, press and hold the back button while turning it on to start the firmware update for either the camera body or the lens.
@Virgine Hlalia Sigma 30 for sure, image quality is superior and autofocus is probably just a hair better
Which camera body are you using it with?
I purchased Sigma's 30mm 1.4 on sale several months ago, and I found the chromatic aberration unacceptable. I just purchased Fuji's 33mm 1.4 R WR lens and hope that it is an improvement.
Very interested in the Sigma trio, but I think I'll skip the 30mm. Thanks, Gordon!
It's definitely the weakest of the three, but still tremendous value. But if you can afford it, the XF 33 is amazing.
As a Fujifilm user the lack of an aperture ring is a failure on Sigma's part... It's kind of a staple of Fuji lenses and makes changing all the settings easy without having to dive into menus etc to change them... Thanks for the review and as always a great job
I agree, but obviously they were limited to reusing a barrel design from several years ago. If it were a new Sigma lens today, like the i series, then it would have an aperture ring.
It's not a failure. These lenses weren't designed for X-mount, they just adapted the E-mount version.
I think it's unfair to complain about the lack of the aperture ring when the alternative would've been A) to redesign the housing and significantly increase the price so it can't compete with Fuji's offerings or B) just keep them off X-mount.
Fuji also offers lenses without a control ring, where you'd change them through the control dials - you don't have to go into a menu.
@@cameralabs How does the Sigma compare with Fuji 35mm f2?
This is not a deal breaker. The Sigma lens have received stellar reviews for years'. The aperture can be adjusted in camera. Just pay a very modest amount and enjoy using very high quality glass, at the very least, try out the Sigma 56 1.4- you will be very surprised.
@@robertcudlipp3426 I understand the aperture can be adjusted in camera, but for me not having a dedicated aperture ring is a deal breaker. When I switched to Fujifilm from Canon one of the reasons was because of the more analog feel to the cameras and this lens doesn’t have that. I have used several Sigma Art lenses when I shot Canon and they were wonderful, but this also is not an Art lenses. Fujifilm makes some of the best lenses I’ve ever used, and the new 33 1.4 is no exception. I will stick with My Fuji lenses. Now if Sigma makes an Art level lenses with aperture ring and WR then I will be interested.
It has really bad CA in many circumstances which is difficult to remove
I've not used a Sigma before. For Fuji X, there's also a Voigtlander that's about 23mm that was recently announced. There's also the brand "Irix" which currently might not be for Fuji, but I was hoping that might change. The reason that I mentioned the other brands are that they are also great for sharpness as is Sigma- but also because a comparison in the future of wide angle Fuji X lenses would be fascinating. That being said, the Sigma might be the only one with autofocus.
Yes, if you're happy to manually focus, there are more options.
Can you please make a video and talk about the issue of the new samyang 12mm af f2 lens. Concerning the problem with the ibis when used in combination with the x-s10. Because for some reason, the ibis stops working. Fujifilm and samyang are not doing anything to fix this, but maybe if we get enough people talking about it, they will address the problem. Thank you.
Samyang refuse to send me lenses to test.
@@cameralabs wow! Didn’t know that. I’m having problems with my lens and camera ibis. And I found out, that many other people are experiencing the same thing.
@@Mathew-vlogs I'll see if I can find anything out, but I doubt it as I have no communications with Samyang.
@@cameralabs thank you. I know that there is not much you can do, but I appreciate you responding and trying to help.
Please do comparison with fujifilm f2.0 version!
If you look at my latest review of the XF 33 1.4, there's lots of comparisons with the Fujfilm 35 f2 which you could use for comparing against the Sigma here.
I jumped for the viltrox 33 1.4. Great lens but I believe not quite upto the XF equivalent either.
I'd like to try it sometime
@@cameralabs if you are ever in Wiltshire you're very welcome to borrow mine.
@@meme4one thanks!
Paradoxically there is a lot to choose in the 23mm focal length space, however XF23mm f1.4 R is old and still very expensive, with the new f1.4 WR being great but even more expensive, Viltrox 23mm f1.4 affordable but not good optically, then there is the f2 Fujinon which is not as sharp as the rest and very soft at closer distances. Really no solution even with so many lenses around. It would be great if Sigma make something in the near future...
I certainly agree the native 23 1.4 is both old, very, very noisy ( I purchased a copy 2nd hand) and slow to focus- in relative terms. I do like its light gathering ability's. The new f2 native version is , ok a little slower, but a far more modern lens design, quiter to focus, should that be important. Am not a pixel peeper and it has been well reviewed. That would be my choice is starting afresh, the trio of f2 etc. more modern lens were not available when I purchased my XT20 several years'' ago.
the f/2 is fine as long as you won't be up at the minimum focus distance, if you just do street photography, wider portraits etc. it's good value for money, but yes would definitely be nice to get more competition at the 23mm focal length
very nice video
Thanks!
Just curious whether the Fuji 35 f2 or this lens is the better choice at that price point
I'd get the Fujifilm 35 f2
@@cameralabs thanks! Shame that the 30mm sigma isn't quite as good as their 56 & 16mm
I thought the Sigma might be good, even at this price point. But they have simply adapted it to X mount, which is just disappointing. I was hoping they'd release it with Fujifilm aesthetics. It's important for Fujifilm lenses to have an aperture ring etc. I don't want my X-T4 to look like a Canon from the lens, I want it to all look the same, boxy, classic Fuji camera style.
Redesigning it for the (smaller) X-mount market would've increased the price significantly - to the point where you might aswell buy Fuji's competitors.
it was a price thing, which is smart imo when they're trying to get a foothold in the fuji x system
So you want to spend twice the money for aesthetics?
Looking for a prime to use for Zoom/Teams and talking head videos that frame my head/shoulders - using the X-T3. I have quite a stable of Fuji lenses but so far all of them hunt/breathe unacceptably for professional/work use in this context. This 30mm may be too long a focal length for this purpose, but is it otherwise suitable for this use case?
I can't recall if either of these breathed badly or not - I don't think i was including this test at the time I made this video. But otherwise the focal length and spec are fine for talking heads. Maybe a slightly wider, like a 23 or 24 for more of the surroundings.
@@cameralabs Thank you for taking the time to respond, Gordon! I am running some experiments with my various Fuji lenses now and confirmed 30mm is too long a focal length for my purposes. Funny that I haven't seen a comprehensive review of the different lenses for webcam use at specified distances with photo/video samples - looking for good video topic ideas?? Around 25 turns out to be perfect for me and my desk setup (with down to 18mm being fine for less formal/professional purposes in which greater context is appropriate). Of my available 20 or so lenses I am currently using the 18-55mm at around 25-27mm and it turns out to be darn good - glad I hung onto it! The 27mm f/2.8 and 18mm f/2 primes are too noisy with constant focus chatter, abrupt focus jumps, and obvious breathing. For long-term use I'd prefer a faster prime that could blur my background out a bit more and take pressure off lighting requirements. So a Fuji/Viltrox 23 1.4 may be my best options. Haven't used either lens myself so would need to rent or buy to assess focus, breathing, etc. Fuji is older and was optimized for stills so video focus may not be great. Viltrox sounds like a great option but I am less confident of its durability, warranty support, etc. Guess you get what you pay for. Love your channel and have been a long-time subscriber for the Fuji X content - thanks so much for everything you do! I can only imagine how much work it is to put together your videos.
@@cward2986 thanks for following for so long! I think for closer presentations, you want more like 24 equivalent, so on APSC, 16-18, but only you know you distances and how big you want to be on the frame! As you've said, it's handy to experiment with a zoom to find the ideal focal length.
Nice Sir 🙂✌️
Sigma 30mm f1.4 or Fuji Xf35mm f2?
hi gordon, which one would you recommend as i'm still confused which to buy between the 35mm f2 or the sigma 30mm 1.4, my body is a x-t20
Wasn't my verdict that the 35 f2 was better?
These new Fuji primes are really great, but they are way overpriced.
I have to wait for a proper review of 23 1.4 WR.
I would be getting it or the 33.
Please review 23 1.4 WR
I am confused between the Sigma 30mm f1.4 and XF35mm f2. Which would you recommend?
(They are currently priced the same in Australia)
same problem here , difficult to make the choice between sigma 30 & fuji 35 F2. I am not quite sure if sigma can release the new firmware in future since there is no option to upgrade X mount lenses in their website. . Obviously the sigma 30 F1.4 has some autofocus problem within and needs firmware update to prove how far it can go..
same here i still find it difficult which of the two to choose
I’m an avid Fujifilm user and I take a LOT of flak from other Fuji user for criticizing its autofocus system. Your tests here are a great demonstration of how Fuji has sadly become the absolute worst phase detection AF mirrorless cameras. Results observed with the XF 33mm are an example of the best Fuji has to offer…which is nervous and unsure AF even when using a LM lens. The Sigmas shouldn’t be withheld too many points for the preproduction firmware - as the native XF 33mm didn’t perform all that much better. Fuji needs to be better and I’m very happy Sigma has joined the list of options for us. I just wish there was a camera body that I could rely on to autofocus and track a subject because my X-T4, X-30 and X-100V ain’t it!
Since you keep buying Fuji bodies, it sounds like you're getting on just fine with it. I'm sure their AF is about to take a big leap forward with the upcoming processor and sensor, and even still... our egos will be just fine if we stop viewing camera brands like sports teams.
@@tjkrueger2655 I buy Fujifilm for their approach to camera design and the image quality/lenses. They’re more fun to use than any other digital camera I’ve ever used or owned. But their autofocus is terrible and Fujifilm user appear to be naïve to just significantly better other cameras are in this aspect. Every brand has its strengths and weaknesses and for some reason any criticism to a brand brings out the naysayers. So yes, I capture photos I’m very happy with every time I use any of my Fuji cameras. But I also get extremely frustrated by the number of shots it misses focus on, when it randomly drifts into the background, or when it finds a “face” in a tree. Haha I treat Fuji cameras as digital film cameras; slow, meticulous, and fun. I don’t think there’s a camera out there that even comes close to that experience. They’re a photographer’s camera through and through. But they can’t reliably track a subject to the modern standard of what Canon and Sony are doing or what DSLRs could do.
@@tjkrueger2655 No , fuji AI algorithm not intelligent as sony / cannon/ nikon. its AF system is some kind of hesitant when deciding which subjects to follow...
@@deel7114 and as I mentioned, that algorithm will get an overhaul to pair with the upcoming stacked sensor and more capable processor that's coming very soon.
i wish i watched this before buying that lens.
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No aperture ring no Sigma lens for me.
But it’s $200 more than their Canon or Sony sigma mount lenses 😔
Adobe LR now uses AI Blur, you can choose the style of bokeh you want and the intensity, it looks much better than any fast prime lens making them all a waste of money. I would just invest in the 18-55 2.8, then make it look however you want in post. AI will kill primes
I don't buy primes for the aperture, I do it for the fixed length, it forces me to move around more.
That focus breathing is pretty bad.
No aperture ring, no thank you.
Yeah it's a shame they don't put them on their apsc lenses
Man, the AF-C in video is a disaster regardless of the lens. My €200 Canon M100 is miles ahead of this mess.
haha , Fuji: leave me some dignity..