Another brilliant tip. The degree of impeccability with which you work makes every job you do truly custom. You're a furniture maker who builds houses!
I use thermowood a lot and this is a really great idea. I would have loved to learn in person from someone as dedicated to quality within the trade as you. Really love your channel mate, thanks.
Used tbis product alot Robin and love it too! Never thought to change direction as you have here.... your brain is wired different to most..... in a good way. Thanks for the video
I didn't quite understand at first, but watching through to the end it makes sense and how you have your story pole to sort it out and make these decisions before you start cladding the dormers. Particularly appreciate how you pointed out that starting with a double groove in the center makes more fiddling thandoing two towards the ends (before you got to the window edge pieces). And I could have used the blower on my job last week (instead I swap the hose on my battery vac to the blower port and make do, you know, suffering 😮💨).
The reverence you have for timber shines through in how you handle the material and conduct your business. Eternally grateful for your knowledge-sharing which I eagerly lap up. Cheers from Toronto! P.s.: I LOVE those battery powered mini blowers. Great bit of kit. Handy for dust, snow, accelerating drying, cleaning the car, etc.
Robin,can I make a suggestion re the table saw. If you fit a long radius pipe fitting onto the extraction outlet the sawdust could be directed in to a bucket rather than all over the work area. A fitting such as 87781 from toolstation. you could also extend the fitting with a short piece of pipe to suit. And please stop reaching over the blade to move the cut slivers away...
Robin I’ve been using that profile for many years, we’ve always used the reverse board method on our cabins in West Tanfield, but a slip tongue is far quicker.
Really helpful cladding videos 🙏 sorry if I’ve missed it, but do you talk specifically about the cladding fixings you’re using in any of the cladding series videos. Thanks
Just done a load of cedar cladding myself, it’s as if phones listen to you, I’ve always started in the centre, worked away, then ripped a double width tongue on the table saw glued it in and worked away
Great work Robin! I’m doing a large cladding job in thermowood and have a soil vent pipe and extractor outlet to clad round and wondered if you had any tips on how to weather proof
Nice Work RC, I used to get moaned at for bringing 240v on site, good for you ✌edit; super smart way to reverse cladding like that, I'm definitely not the sharpest tool in the box but totally got it, cheers
He does domestic work, so don't need to abide by site rules. I'm pretty sure a saw with no guard on the top wouldn't be allowed on a site and he'd have to be wearing a hard hat at all times.
are they little packing peices youved used to get the airflow behind? what sort of gap do you allow yourself for adequate airflow? cladding looks lovely.
I have spaced off the batten frames that I made by 12mm, the cladding is naturally air leaky through the tongue and groove, you may also see the fly mesh at the base of the frames too, for large areas of wall cladding we do a minimum of 25mm for ventilation
Hi Mike, I use no finish on the Thermowood, I will silver down naturally over time depending on its position and light etc, do you think a follow up video of where I have used Thermowood over the years and how it compares and what it now looks like?
Another great video Robin. I've used thermowood for the first time and it looks great, however on one side of the building which gets a lot of rain / wind hit it, dark grey blotches like mould have started to show up. Starting to think I should've put a clear coat on once the orange new colour faded a little. Have you seen this happen? Cheers
Thanks Robin, learning a lot here which will come in handy in the months ahead but two questions - why face nail rather than secret and what size/type of nails would you use?
These boards can be secret nailed but you need to have closer battens as the number of fixings is greatly reduced, I am using a 50mm stainless steel brad that is 16g, face fixing allows 2 fixings per batten
@@ukconstruction ok so you're using 16ga brads 2x batten on 600mm(?). If you went to 1x secret with the same brads what spacing would you advise - 3/400mm (?) or could you increase the nail size to compensate a bit?
Love this, reminds me of cedar cladding in New Zealand, have used this technique before. Thermowood looks great! How would it hold up in Cumbrian conditions? (Where I’m now based)
Silly question. Why not put the reveal on the front side of the cladding? If it goes in the outside it would cover the exposed trim tongue or groove? Sure the joint would be outward facing rather than on the inside of the reveal. Must be a reason..???
Does the thermowood get a coating of anything? What's the maintenance like? My dormers are a bloody nightmare to paint every five years. I don't have the luxury of scaffolding either!
Neat double-female groove trick. Love it. In electonic cables, that would be known as a "gender-bender", which is kind of non-PC these days but many many people still say it. Milennials and GenZ will no doubt invent their own term. 😆
Robin, now you’ve been using the saw stop for some time, has it made you a little over confident? Any power saw can be a little scary, and that makes you a bit more aware of the blade and the dangers. I can imagine that you are now aware of the cost involved with having the saw activate, has that taken the place of being wary of injuring yourself? Anyone who has used power tools on a regular basis and is familiar with them will know that it only takes a tiny distraction for an accident to happen, sometimes over confidence will create a situation where that could happen.
@ukconstruction Sorry I meant your technique of creating a cladding that can be redirected from the starting point, you could virtually start the cladding from the centre and work either way. If I'm right in saying that.
You are really reliant on the window fitters getting them dead center here. If you didn't build the house and were simply cladding it, this wouldn't work
I would make it work in the setting out, also did you hear that I mentioned how I make sure the windows are fitted dead centre by overseeing this work myself on site
You were made for this Robin. It’s insane how clearly and easily you can teach people.
Once again. The CLASS ACT in carpentry. Excellent Robin. Thank you.
Wow, thank you!
Aesthetics and planning is crucial. Well thought out and your attention to detail is so well articulatled Robin.
Great to see someone with a good eye for detail 👍 Nice work.
Well explained, didn't realise how complicated cladding could be
Another brilliant tip. The degree of impeccability with which you work makes every job you do truly custom. You're a furniture maker who builds houses!
Thank you Carole!!!
I use thermowood a lot and this is a really great idea. I would have loved to learn in person from someone as dedicated to quality within the trade as you. Really love your channel mate, thanks.
Thanks mate!!!
You're the consummate professional, Robin. Very neat.
A rod doesn't lie Robin! Brilliant again 👍🏽
Used tbis product alot Robin and love it too!
Never thought to change direction as you have here.... your brain is wired different to most..... in a good way.
Thanks for the video
Careful planning and considered thinking before you start - fantastic work Robin, as always ! 👏
Thank you so much 😀
Nice story pole Timber Robin and nice haircut!🙂🙃😎 Ps- I will add Robin never ever reach over a spinning blade with a long sleeve sweater
I didn't quite understand at first, but watching through to the end it makes sense and how you have your story pole to sort it out and make these decisions before you start cladding the dormers. Particularly appreciate how you pointed out that starting with a double groove in the center makes more fiddling thandoing two towards the ends (before you got to the window edge pieces). And I could have used the blower on my job last week (instead I swap the hose on my battery vac to the blower port and make do, you know, suffering 😮💨).
The reverence you have for timber shines through in how you handle the material and conduct your business. Eternally grateful for your knowledge-sharing which I eagerly lap up. Cheers from Toronto!
P.s.: I LOVE those battery powered mini blowers. Great bit of kit. Handy for dust, snow, accelerating drying, cleaning the car, etc.
Appreciate that, yep the blowers are brilliant!!!
👍 having nice flat timber makes work enjoyable.
Every day is a school day. Great video
That cladding looks stunning.
It's my favourite!!
@@ukconstruction I see why.
I was amaze to all of your videos and that kind of videos I was looking.
Brilliant- what a pleasure to watch such a professional.
Robin,can I make a suggestion re the table saw. If you fit a long radius pipe fitting onto the extraction outlet the sawdust could be directed in to a bucket rather than all over the work area. A fitting such as 87781 from toolstation. you could also extend the fitting with a short piece of pipe to suit. And please stop reaching over the blade to move the cut slivers away...
Lovely attention to detail.
Hi Robin whis I had done my apprenticeship under you. I would have learned something and still be working in a trade that I loved
Robin I’ve been using that profile for many years, we’ve always used the reverse board method on our cabins in West Tanfield, but a slip tongue is far quicker.
Love that attention to detail 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Very neat job!!
Cheers Oli!!
Love the detailing Robin, keep up the good work, wishing you every success, and thanks for sharing your valued knowledge.
Keep safe
Regards Martin✊🏻
Much appreciated
Class perfection as always thanks 4 sharing ur knowledge with us all
Excellent teacher much appreciated
You are very welcome
Lovely in-depth detail on this one robin
Top notch as per usual👌
Really helpful cladding videos 🙏 sorry if I’ve missed it, but do you talk specifically about the cladding fixings you’re using in any of the cladding series videos. Thanks
Just done a load of cedar cladding myself, it’s as if phones listen to you, I’ve always started in the centre, worked away, then ripped a double width tongue on the table saw glued it in and worked away
Smashing video, and well explained.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great work Robin! I’m doing a large cladding job in thermowood and have a soil vent pipe and extractor outlet to clad round and wondered if you had any tips on how to weather proof
Would be amazing to spend a day working with you Robin!👍🏼
Maybe one day!
Really nice piece of work!
Glad you like it!
AsCarly Simon says, nobody does it better.
Nice Work RC, I used to get moaned at for bringing 240v on site, good for you ✌edit; super smart way to reverse cladding like that, I'm definitely not the sharpest tool in the box but totally got it, cheers
He does domestic work, so don't need to abide by site rules. I'm pretty sure a saw with no guard on the top wouldn't be allowed on a site and he'd have to be wearing a hard hat at all times.
@@noire1001 sounds like the way to go !! I'm not up on all that safety stuff any more
Why can't a builder like you exist where I live so I can hire them to build to the quality you do. :(
great video robin
Robin: what products would you recommend to treat cladding to ensure it doesn’t fade so much over time? Thanks in advance 👍
What fixings are you using here? Superb finish, i will certainly be striving to reach this level of detail on my next cladding job!
I am using 50mm stainless steel 16g brads two per fixing point and 450 centres
amazing work well done keep up the amazing work you are doing were his ed gone
Thank you very much! Ed is coming back soon
are they little packing peices youved used to get the airflow behind? what sort of gap do you allow yourself for adequate airflow? cladding looks lovely.
I have spaced off the batten frames that I made by 12mm, the cladding is naturally air leaky through the tongue and groove, you may also see the fly mesh at the base of the frames too, for large areas of wall cladding we do a minimum of 25mm for ventilation
@@ukconstruction brilliant, thanks robin
super helpful! if you were to stain (black for example) does it take the stain well and would you paint before installing?
Yes Damon this stains really well and yes I would stain it first
Brilliant thanks!
Great informative video! What sort of finish/treatment do you recommend and does it maintain the warm finish as long as cedar? 😊
Hi Mike, I use no finish on the Thermowood, I will silver down naturally over time depending on its position and light etc, do you think a follow up video of where I have used Thermowood over the years and how it compares and what it now looks like?
Nice work. Is the groove in the center. So you can flip the side to the fence or is it off center so that won't work
It would be nice if the manufacturers made over sized planks with only just a tongue on for corners etc
great shout!!!!
Like a tile an half roofers get! 👍🏻
Another great video Robin. I've used thermowood for the first time and it looks great, however on one side of the building which gets a lot of rain / wind hit it, dark grey blotches like mould have started to show up.
Starting to think I should've put a clear coat on once the orange new colour faded a little. Have you seen this happen? Cheers
Hi Michael, there are some good simple biocides that you can spray this with that will deal with it, this one is really good amzn.to/3Yh1A3x
Thank you. Very clever 👏👍💪
great video, is that ladder tied to the scaffold ? HSE
Thanks Robin, learning a lot here which will come in handy in the months ahead but two questions - why face nail rather than secret and what size/type of nails would you use?
These boards can be secret nailed but you need to have closer battens as the number of fixings is greatly reduced, I am using a 50mm stainless steel brad that is 16g, face fixing allows 2 fixings per batten
@@ukconstruction ok so you're using 16ga brads 2x batten on 600mm(?). If you went to 1x secret with the same brads what spacing would you advise - 3/400mm (?) or could you increase the nail size to compensate a bit?
I am using my battens at about 450mm centres, I would say that for secret nail then as you suggest 400 centres would be the maximum spacing!!
Love this, reminds me of cedar cladding in New Zealand, have used this technique before.
Thermowood looks great! How would it hold up in Cumbrian conditions? (Where I’m now based)
Hi Daniel, this material would be fine in all conditions
@@ukconstruction thanks Robin 👍
You really are amazing😮
Hi Josh!! Thanks for watching !!
Silly question. Why not put the reveal on the front side of the cladding? If it goes in the outside it would cover the exposed trim tongue or groove? Sure the joint would be outward facing rather than on the inside of the reveal. Must be a reason..???
Does the thermowood get a coating of anything? What's the maintenance like? My dormers are a bloody nightmare to paint every five years. I don't have the luxury of scaffolding either!
I've been looking at Accoya which has a supposedly 10 years maintenance span. The problem is getting reliable independent verification of performance.
You beauty!
Nice job. But won’t that make the board narrower than all the rest.
no the face side is still exactly the same as the rest
🎉
I now need to find an excuse to do vertical cladding
Neat double-female groove trick. Love it. In electonic cables, that would be known as a "gender-bender", which is kind of non-PC these days but many many people still say it. Milennials and GenZ will no doubt invent their own term. 😆
Robin, now you’ve been using the saw stop for some time, has it made you a little over confident? Any power saw can be a little scary, and that makes you a bit more aware of the blade and the dangers. I can imagine that you are now aware of the cost involved with having the saw activate, has that taken the place of being wary of injuring yourself?
Anyone who has used power tools on a regular basis and is familiar with them will know that it only takes a tiny distraction for an accident to happen, sometimes over confidence will create a situation where that could happen.
Robin the Cladiator
Thats Good!!!!! I am using that!!!
They the should double groove all t and g clwdding/flooring it would save so much waste
Looks great but I didn’t follow any of that. No idea what you were doing
Looks like hilti have taken over the van robin😂😂
Did you suss this out yourself robin. Or was the idea handed down to you 👽🥃
Has Ed moved on?
No, he has been working in Devon at his families property and will return with me very soon
Thank you for your reply and good to hear.
Yay me first!
Here in Ireland we would need a cavity tray over the windows. Thanks for video
I wonder if thermo wood actually watch this and think of producing it as a standard product
It is a widely used material, few mainstream merchants stock it.
@ukconstruction Sorry I meant your technique of creating a cladding that can be redirected from the starting point, you could virtually start the cladding from the centre and work either way. If I'm right in saying that.
Yes David that would be good!!
You are really reliant on the window fitters getting them dead center here. If you didn't build the house and were simply cladding it, this wouldn't work
I would make it work in the setting out, also did you hear that I mentioned how I make sure the windows are fitted dead centre by overseeing this work myself on site