When the game takes long enough and Luna loses that plus 1 big item advantage, it's pretty much over. PL just killed her over and over with soviet attacks.
Gorgc had it very very easy because the target of the coil + Swap combo was always Leshrac, this lesh suffered this BS the entire game lol. Imagine if Luna was a better target... Gorgc would just throw his monitor, because he got tilted even not being the main target of the combos.
Basically as Pika said, unless its a 5v5 teamfight where you think you can hold them long enough so heroes with high aoe impact heroes like earthshaker will follow up then its a bad move. Here the coil is more of setup for the swap and the swap is just to outposition and disjoint the carry from his team for easy pickoff.
@@jiminsbulge9448 basically coil to keep the carry locked for some time till phantom girl can walk and swap the enemy pos 1 out of their teammates protection and safety thats all. Maybe you get it now.
guys what do u think about shard and left talents PL? the spamming one. Is it still good? coz they nerfed it right? this video didnt aint updated yet coz it is 1 week delayed, i watched this strean
It’s still pretty good. The nerft just stopped people from going Aether Lense/Octarine that much. But it s still a good upgrade for farming and kitting.
There is no one showing on the map, they know that most of the dire should be close to bottom side of the map so Venge is solo and the enemy T1 is still up.
@@bleach0959 yooo thank uuu :< as a support i always die bc i think i shouldnt show in situations like that but i don't feel i have a concrete reason why, so I show anyway and die aha
@@Bloodynine606 so you dont need to play a hero to know its limits, the reliability of its spells etc? the guy was making errors that both bsj and qojqva were pointing out. to play any hero well at immortal level is going to take some degree of familiarity with the hero. this is like saying there isnt much to learn in chess as long as you know how the pieces move. wraith king is about as basic as it gets. can you play him at an immortal level?
BSJ knows what the viable options are, he is very aware, it's about choosing the marginally better option, and recognizing what are the all the pieces of information that can go into making the multiple decisions. He's not making decisions like this is the obvious right decision and the obvious wrong decision. It is, there's a 60% chance option A is right and a 40% chance option B is right, and what are the pieces of information or intuitions that can shift that balance.
Gorgc was very mad at this game, he hated pl and he hated the puck coil and venge swap combo
Gorgc is very mad in general lol
Ahahaha yea i watched it
this game was so much fun to watch from both perspectives
Man I remember watching this from Gorg's perspective and man that coil swap combo was dirty..
But now i know the value of lotus orb
When the game takes long enough and Luna loses that plus 1 big item advantage, it's pretty much over. PL just killed her over and over with soviet attacks.
Soviet attacks 😂 best description of pl I've ever seen.
Soviet march starts playing XD
soviet attacks im fucking dying..... :D
hey BSJ,since u are part of the Liquid family u should invite Insania to coach you when u play support.That would be dope
Bro bsj the fact that you’re great at the game and then there’s qojva and then sumail. Fucckk there’s levels to this shittt
So many levels
The number of times i've accidentally denied the aegis and then face palmed is burned into my memory for eternity.
For the glory of the algorithm..... and obviously BSJ as well.
Really cool bsj, thank you!
Commenting for algorithm. Great content BSJ and Qojqva!
Puck nerfed into oblivion, u know it with 3-rd skill cd, but you really start to feel it when u can't cancel black hole with the coil.
Gorgc had it very very easy because the target of the coil + Swap combo was always Leshrac, this lesh suffered this BS the entire game lol. Imagine if Luna was a better target... Gorgc would just throw his monitor, because he got tilted even not being the main target of the combos.
They didn’t wanna target Luna early because BKB. But after puck aghs and 25 Missle talent they started targeting Luna.
I think bsj think less when qoqva is coaching him
Thats a natural consequence of trying to understand and listen to another person
@@willmurray1172 yea i thought so too
Hahaha you guys did dirty on gorgc luna XD hahaha
Hahaha if only bsj has a perma coach like ppd, he would win more games XD hahaha
Haha so much toxicity in this community XD haha
your legend never leave lane on 5 for 10 years lose.
It's really pleasing to watch BSJ getting microed .. 😂😂 taste of own medicine 😛
His face after he took the immortal haha
The Team Liquid videos production is always so good!! TY BSJ :)
Well played, love the aegis steal=)
My favorite streamers playing together. I like that series.
Up for algorithm^^
I’m a herald noob so could someone explain why you would want to swap someone out of coil?
Give them damage, stun and opponent went out of position which enables enemy hard to save.
Basically as Pika said, unless its a 5v5 teamfight where you think you can hold them long enough so heroes with high aoe impact heroes like earthshaker will follow up then its a bad move. Here the coil is more of setup for the swap and the swap is just to outposition and disjoint the carry from his team for easy pickoff.
@@pika2031 I didn’t understand that whatsoever haha
@@pluckyleon6640 oh ok, that’s way over my head, way too advanced lol thanks
@@jiminsbulge9448 basically coil to keep the carry locked for some time till phantom girl can walk and swap the enemy pos 1 out of their teammates protection and safety thats all. Maybe you get it now.
guys what do u think about shard and left talents PL? the spamming one. Is it still good? coz they nerfed it right? this video didnt aint updated yet coz it is 1 week delayed, i watched this strean
It’s still pretty good. The nerft just stopped people from going Aether Lense/Octarine that much. But it s still a good upgrade for farming and kitting.
@@bleach0959 It's nice to have but a basher enables you much more i feel like
If Puck wasn't nerfed to oblivion, I think this would be a common combo for TI10
5:00 how the hell does he know
There is no one showing on the map, they know that most of the dire should be close to bottom side of the map so Venge is solo and the enemy T1 is still up.
@@bleach0959 yooo thank uuu :< as a support i always die bc i think i shouldnt show in situations like that but i don't feel i have a concrete reason why, so I show anyway and die aha
Welcome in Utrecht bro
What happened at 17.23 ? How did luna spawn illusions at BSJ ?
Lotus orb on pl's q and gorgc also had shard.
@@ppmpyae1152 Oh so that’s why there was also a Undying illusion running around.
all of that shenanigans
3 smokes free to buy,why does no one buy smokes
BSJ i really like your compendium talent photo. such a photogenic guy.
I thought qojqva was going to play with BSJ but this is good enough
Just a normal Herald game.
My dota is freezing in The main manu, I already put some inicialization codes. It wasn't happening a month ago, anyone knows how can i fix it?
it used to happen to me but when i changed my direct x to 9 it stopped
@@akhileshsuthar5067 thanks dude, but it didn't work for me.
Just contacted the support
@@thebestenderplayer oh well...also let me know if u come across a solution...might help me in my post directX 9 dota
GEORGE C
15:31 😂😂😂
More Vengeful spirit games pls
Venge can stun magic immune, is basically immortal with aghs, and can swap magic immune? Wtf is this hero
Pretty garbage
@@ElderWillows Only if you're bad. Even in pro matches she has 26.8% ban rate, 21% pick rate, and still has 53% winrate.
Bsj+Qoqjva? Even miracle goes down. Let alone a rank 400 george
5:01 :D
why would you choose a high level ranked game to learn pugna?
Because not everyone smurfs and maybe not everyone cares about getting even more MMR.
@@FelixIsGood they could just play unranked, no need to smurf or potentially lose mmr and mmr for their teammates.
It’s not meepo not much to learn really
@@Bloodynine606 so you dont need to play a hero to know its limits, the reliability of its spells etc? the guy was making errors that both bsj and qojqva were pointing out. to play any hero well at immortal level is going to take some degree of familiarity with the hero. this is like saying there isnt much to learn in chess as long as you know how the pieces move. wraith king is about as basic as it gets. can you play him at an immortal level?
@@auto1nfanticid3 You said it. 👏 100% agree
words.
5:10 XD
taking aegis for content
some ppd gameplay :D
so never leave lane on 5 lose ar... HAHA
pango is carry their team for a long time not luna..
pity pango
genius players 👍
loved it
Well you clearly do care about it since you mentioned it at the end of the video lmao
That was so bad, i think i played better. And im herald.
I have 32 games with a pugna on my team and only 3 of those are wins. He’s such an awful hero.
Yeah...he is pretty bad rn
Comment and Like for griefing Aegis
pls more
he gets coached xD
accidental toxic XD
ooof gg !
Not gonna lie I think Mr.Gorp played really good this game
Algocomment
Pog
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gg
bro stop with the cringe thumbnails bsj. we dont wanna see ur expressions
doesnt feel like BSJ learned something. Like he knew all what qojqva said, kinda pointless coaching
consolidation still has its merits
it is fun to watch them. This is good content, because game was hard for bs
BSJ knows what the viable options are, he is very aware, it's about choosing the marginally better option, and recognizing what are the all the pieces of information that can go into making the multiple decisions.
He's not making decisions like this is the obvious right decision and the obvious wrong decision. It is, there's a 60% chance option A is right and a 40% chance option B is right, and what are the pieces of information or intuitions that can shift that balance.
Nope he did
No one cares that you are in EU playing against people who are obviously better than you.
omg chill bro
Gorc simp located
I care, more than enough
Nobody cares about you
archon spotted