Adam, you are simply amazing at what you do. Such a fantastic communicator, no wasted words ever. It’s insane how well you consistently speak in a clear and concise manner. Have you considered starting a Patreon, I’d love to “chip” in 😊?
This video has improved my game so much. I play off 11 but lack consisentcy and have a tendancy to close the face through impact. This has made such a difference and I am getting at least 20 yards more from the driver, Thank you Adam.
I will be taking these to the range tomorrow. I have been doing the drill with a ball behind my club sending the ball backwards. These look like they would give a lot more feel and build a foundation to NOT take it from the inside. I am so used to seeing the club face open that as you say the face looks so closed but it is not:-)
This looks good and will give it a go. The last few sesaons I have gotten in a bad habit of doing this and it is drivig me crazy. I can do it correctly in my practive swings but when for real the muscle memory kicks and and am still rolling it inside and flat. If I had a nickel for everytime I hear... "Your practice swings looks nothing like your real swing" i'd be retired! Any further advice would be greatly appreciated!
I wanted to thank you for this video. I actually practiced this very thing during my game today. I’ve been struggling hitting the ball straight with my irons, woods and rescue clubs. I really paid attention to keeping my arms in the “V” shape and straight. Did really well but did not always hit my 3 wood correctly, but I’m not giving up on that club. When I hit it I get some much more distance and closer to the green every time. Once I get down hitting my 3 wood correctly I’ll be super happy. Thank you so much. I shared this video with two of the ladies I good with who also struggle with this very thing. Thank you and God bless.
I've been a category golfer for 56 years and always 'rolled' a little. It seems counter intuititve but I know its correct so will try and incorporate. Thanks.
Yup… like Paul Hughes this has been the bane of my golfing life fanning the golf club inside (hands out club head in)… just had yet another lesson with my golf coach Mark Searle at High Post Golf Club and yet again the bad habit has crept back in! Back to the grindstone 🥴
Love these drills thanks Adam; Do you have any videos on the position of the club at the top of the backswing? I never know if my club is too laid off at the top or too steep. I can't get the club into a natural position at the top; I'm always manipulating the position before the downswing.
Thanks Ryan. Yes, I have a number of videos on the backswing and top of backswing at this channel. At www.scratchgolfacademy.com I offer full video courses, I hope you’ll check it out Best, Adam
I took the winter off from golf and just hit a bucket yesterday. I noticed that I was doing this move. Felt like I was bending my right wrist about a foot after I start my take away. I will use these drills
Great drills! I have struggled with the inside take away for as long as I can remember. I can do 3 perfect practice swings and then, you guessed it, the actual swing goes inside! I am sure it must be a mental block or something subconscious as well! Thanks for the great content as usual!
I have spent years trying to stop rolling the club to the inside at the start of the backswing. Instructors keep saying if you roll the wrists going back there's a tendency to come over the top on transition and you're changing the swing plane leading to inconsistency. However shallowing the club on transition is advocated. So is that not changing the swing plane as well and probably at a stage that is more difficult to control? My point being if you roll your wrists at the start you wouldn't have to shallow the swing on transition. I worry that I'm trying to change something in my swing that at some time in the future will be found to have been not so bad all along😂. I remember when chipping used to be ball of back foot, hands ahead of ball, hit ball first. Now it's evolving to more neutral setup and use the bounce and even brush the ground before the ball.
Brian, it’s only considered rolling if the shaft gets flatter than it’s address plane early in the backswing. If this happens the club has to steeper in order to hit the ball, not easy to manage. The shallowing in the downside isn’t so much rolling the wrists as it is the natural reaction to dynamic movement. You’ll see this in baseball, when the batter steps in to the pitch the right arm loads and the bay flattens
Larry, Not exactly sure what you’re referring to but swinging out generally means to the right of target (in to out). I like swinging from the inside to the back of the ball Hope this helps Best, Adam
Adam: I’m the student you refer to at the 45 second mark of this video. The rolling arms and folded right arm would’ve been helpful information during the lesson (or even after). We never once discussed the takeaway. Strange. Good luck with future lessons and feel free to use other parts of my swing in future videos to help other everyday golfers get better.
Bradley, Thanks for the note. In your case we moved the ball back, strengthened your grip, and changed the way your pivot worked (none of which can be seen from the down line view). I felt that this was the best way to get the club more up in front of you. The stuff I discussed in the UA-cam video might well be helpful too. I did a UA-cam a while back called ‘Best golf swing takeaway drills for your driver’ that you might find would be applicable. All the best, Adam
Interesting Subject: (Affreux) is the best way to describe my golf game-Yes,terrible.LOL.Ok,real quick: From the World of Baseball- Rod Carew(7× MLB Batting Champion, .388 Avg.in 1977! ) & Tony Gwinn(8× MLB Batting Champion) both benefited greatly from this much talked about 'Forearm-Rolled Technique' approach.To be fair though,only a partial applause can be given to the Technique, because the majority of the credit has to be given(not to any of their Physical Attributes)but to their 'non-hyper' Mindsets which allowed for the execution of impeccable Timing.LA Dodger's Hitter Cody Bellinger typifies the Baseball Swing of the Modern Era.Since there are inescapable similarities between the Baseball Swing & Golf Swing, should what clearly worked for Carew & Guinn in the past be totally abandoned for this 'New' approach that has Baseball & Golf displaying virtually identical Swings?Fun topic,eh? Les ❤
Adam , very well made video. Am I correct that in the backswing there is a little side bend which you refer to as tilt? Would yo describe this as a knock down shot ? What club were you using for this drill?
Thankyou Adam I have been playing golf for fifty five years at now reaching the age of 77. I have had a take away problem -from immediately going inside - throughout those years. I have been told about this before a number of times but simply forget I think a few weeks. Your and video explains what I should do very well. I have generally struggled with poor tempo and panic and seldom do I follow through smoothly - although I played of a handicap of eight - twenty five years ago or so . But with advancing years my panic and difficulty in remaining in tempo- and getting any real sense of repeatability and power- are making me snatch at the ball and simply loose length and direction. Thank you for your clear reminder of a key source of my so many years of mediocracy. I intend now to practice your three takeaway routines over and over until at least I get this part of my swing right - hopefully so that I swing rather than hit my shots. Prof Richard Weston
I too have struggled big time with the rolling of the wrists and have confirmed this fault when I have seen videos of my swing and was wondering if that would cause my feel of flipping at the bottom. I’m guessing that by limiting the rolling of the wrists in the takeaway would that in turn help limiting any excessive wrist action necessary to square it up at the bottom? I’ve seen other videos where rolling the wrists immediately puts you under the plane. If I have to manipulate my wrists just to get it back on plane on the downswing then somehow I need to square it up that takes tremendous timing. Maybe that explains my inconsistency. Some days good some not so good. I will try the drills and I’m sure they will help. Just a quick question though…I’m guessing it’s better to err on the club outside the hands vs rolling it inside? Oh and once again I’m the one that is always complimenting your course and how beautiful it always looks👍👍
@@Scratchgolfacademy hey I’m back again for another comment on this tip from you..one thing I noticed when you show the improper rolling of the wrists on the takeaway is the right shoulder really is very flat in relation to the ideal swing plane. And with the proper takeaway you showed the right shoulder seems to go up and not around which is a completely different feeling from what I am used to.. I am playing tomorrow and will work on that right shoulder going up and not around. Hopefully that will make my takeaway simple and easy to repeat👍👍
Your swing can be ruined in the first few feet of the backswing, setting the club on the right sequence is something i work on with my pupils. Great drills will be trying them out with my pupils in the coming weeks
Would it be fair to day the wrist should not start the movement? From my understanding, part of the rolling issue is the wrist hinge portion of the swing starts too early.
@@Scratchgolfacademy Right on. I think that's been my problem. Less so with irons, but with driver I've been going over the top way too much. Is that what is meant by creating width in the swing? No one ever explained what that means. Cranking the club inside too early leads to less width, is this correct?
Is the medicus tech outdated? My medicus mandates turning the clubhead towards the sky on the takeaway otherwise the hinge does not work correctly. This method appears the clubhead stays square on the takeaway?
Nice, but as your demos show, this is basically a fix or the take-away phase - you can only maintain this until about arms waist high. You need to demo what happens from there to the top, because it’s not obvious.
Scott, UA-cam videos are usually not watched until the end, even when they are concise. We can only tackle one thing at a time in these videos. I have many others on things like grip, posture, top of backswing, impact etc. Thanks, Adam
@@Scratchgolfacademy Thanks for responding, you’re great, Merry Christmas from Texas. I get that you can only do one topic per vid, but my point is that this takeaway is almost 180 degrees opposite from what most weekenders do, but literally leaves them ‘stuck’ waist high. So it’s sort of half a vid.
Hi Adam, great lesson and drills, thank you. As you do the takeaway, do you synch the handle of the club with your bellybutton so that your torso moves in synch with the club as you rotate?
People should know Justin Thomas and Adam Scott have neutral to weaker grips, so it is essential for them to take it back like that. The story is gonna be a little different if you have a stronger grip
Adam, you are simply amazing at what you do. Such a fantastic communicator, no wasted words ever. It’s insane how well you consistently speak in a clear and concise manner. Have you considered starting a Patreon, I’d love to “chip” in 😊?
Thanks! What’s a Patreon?
Bless you! The trail hand in front of my lead hand drill here helps a lot!!
Glad you found the video helpful
Love the way you communicate concisely and simply. You're a great instructor
This video has improved my game so much. I play off 11 but lack consisentcy and have a tendancy to close the face through impact. This has made such a difference and I am getting at least 20 yards more from the driver, Thank you Adam.
You have a very good swing and this is a good lesson.
Thanks very much!
I have rolled my hands and arms for decades and just have such difficulty correcting that move. Can't wait to try these drills. Thanks Adam!!
Hope it goes well for you Steve
Best, Adam
I will be taking these to the range tomorrow. I have been doing the drill with a ball behind my club sending the ball backwards. These look like they would give a lot more feel and build a foundation to NOT take it from the inside. I am so used to seeing the club face open that as you say the face looks so closed but it is not:-)
Hope you make progress Susan
Thanks Adam...This might help me with pulling the ball left...Get good distance but farther from the hole...
I hope you make good progress Allah
All the best, Adam
Waited about 10 years for a drill to help with this.. thanks Adam
Hope you make good progress Paul.
All the best, Adam
Thanks so much I have really been struggling turning my wrists so,am going to try your drills 🤞
Hope you make progress Ann
This looks good and will give it a go. The last few sesaons I have gotten in a bad habit of doing this and it is drivig me crazy. I can do it correctly in my practive swings but when for real the muscle memory kicks and and am still rolling it inside and flat. If I had a nickel for everytime I hear... "Your practice swings looks nothing like your real swing" i'd be retired! Any further advice would be greatly appreciated!
I’d hit some shots off a low tee literally in slow motion, it allows you to feel your swing
I wanted to thank you for this video. I actually practiced this very thing during my game today. I’ve been struggling hitting the ball straight with my irons, woods and rescue clubs. I really paid attention to keeping my arms in the “V” shape and straight. Did really well but did not always hit my 3 wood correctly, but I’m not giving up on that club. When I hit it I get some much more distance and closer to the green every time. Once I get down hitting my 3 wood correctly I’ll be super happy. Thank you so much. I shared this video with two of the ladies I good with who also struggle with this very thing. Thank you and God bless.
Thanks very much Linda, and thanks for passing the video along.
All the best, Adam
Great explanation of the problem. Knowing that alone helps.
Glad you found it helpful CK
Best, Adam
I've been a category golfer for 56 years and always 'rolled' a little. It seems counter intuititve but I know its correct so will try and incorporate. Thanks.
Hope you make progress Joanna
Yup… like Paul Hughes this has been the bane of my golfing life fanning the golf club inside (hands out club head in)… just had yet another lesson with my golf coach Mark Searle at High Post Golf Club and yet again the bad habit has crept back in! Back to the grindstone 🥴
Hope this video helps a bit Kevin
Best, Adam
Great drills and content Adam! Looking forward to putting the content to good use.
Thanks David, hope it goes well for you.
Best, Adam
Thanks Adam, you make these 3 drills look clear and succinct. I will try them out today 😊
Thanks Nick!
Best, Adam
Great drills Adam ..big changes come from right practice!
Thanks Edward!
Best, Adam
Love these drills thanks Adam; Do you have any videos on the position of the club at the top of the backswing? I never know if my club is too laid off at the top or too steep. I can't get the club into a natural position at the top; I'm always manipulating the position before the downswing.
Thanks Ryan. Yes, I have a number of videos on the backswing and top of backswing at this channel. At www.scratchgolfacademy.com I offer full video courses, I hope you’ll check it out
Best, Adam
I took the winter off from golf and just hit a bucket yesterday. I noticed that I was doing this move. Felt like I was bending my right wrist about a foot after I start my take away. I will use these drills
I hope the drills help you get going.
Best, Adam
Smooth!
Thanks!
Best, Adam
Great drills! I have struggled with the inside take away for as long as I can remember. I can do 3 perfect practice swings and then, you guessed it, the actual swing goes inside! I am sure it must be a mental block or something subconscious as well! Thanks for the great content as usual!
Thanks Paul, and hope you make good progress
Best, Adam
I have spent years trying to stop rolling the club to the inside at the start of the backswing. Instructors keep saying if you roll the wrists going back there's a tendency to come over the top on transition and you're changing the swing plane leading to inconsistency. However shallowing the club on transition is advocated. So is that not changing the swing plane as well and probably at a stage that is more difficult to control? My point being if you roll your wrists at the start you wouldn't have to shallow the swing on transition. I worry that I'm trying to change something in my swing that at some time in the future will be found to have been not so bad all along😂. I remember when chipping used to be ball of back foot, hands ahead of ball, hit ball first. Now it's evolving to more neutral setup and use the bounce and even brush the ground before the ball.
Brian, it’s only considered rolling if the shaft gets flatter than it’s address plane early in the backswing. If this happens the club has to steeper in order to hit the ball, not easy to manage.
The shallowing in the downside isn’t so much rolling the wrists as it is the natural reaction to dynamic movement. You’ll see this in baseball, when the batter steps in to the pitch the right arm loads and the bay flattens
Adam great lesson. Question- I don’t understand “swinging out”. It seems strange doing this - what keeps it from finding its target ?
Larry,
Not exactly sure what you’re referring to but swinging out generally means to the right of target (in to out). I like swinging from the inside to the back of the ball
Hope this helps
Best, Adam
Brilliant 👍
Thanks very much John
Best, Adam
Oh man! If I had this guy coaching me when I was somebody I really could have been somebody!
Ha! Happy to see you down in Naples if you ever come this way
Best, Adam
Adam: I’m the student you refer to at the 45 second mark of this video. The rolling arms and folded right arm would’ve been helpful information during the lesson (or even after). We never once discussed the takeaway. Strange. Good luck with future lessons and feel free to use other parts of my swing in future videos to help other everyday golfers get better.
well that sucks. pay for a lesson, not get it corrected, then ridiculed.
Bradley,
Thanks for the note. In your case we moved the ball back, strengthened your grip, and changed the way your pivot worked (none of which can be seen from the down line view). I felt that this was the best way to get the club more up in front of you.
The stuff I discussed in the UA-cam video might well be helpful too. I did a UA-cam a while back called ‘Best golf swing takeaway drills for your driver’ that you might find would be applicable.
All the best, Adam
@@Scratchgolfacademy Thanks Adam. Have a great weekend!
You too Bradley
Interesting Subject: (Affreux) is the best way to describe my golf game-Yes,terrible.LOL.Ok,real quick: From the World of Baseball- Rod Carew(7× MLB Batting Champion, .388 Avg.in 1977! ) & Tony Gwinn(8× MLB Batting Champion) both benefited greatly from this much talked about 'Forearm-Rolled Technique' approach.To be fair though,only a partial applause can be given to the Technique, because the majority of the credit has to be given(not to any of their Physical Attributes)but to their 'non-hyper' Mindsets which allowed for the execution of impeccable Timing.LA Dodger's Hitter Cody Bellinger typifies the Baseball Swing of the Modern Era.Since there are inescapable similarities between the Baseball Swing & Golf Swing, should what clearly worked for Carew & Guinn in the past be totally abandoned for this 'New' approach that has Baseball & Golf displaying virtually identical Swings?Fun topic,eh? Les ❤
Rolling wrists has been a real issue. Your good advice comes at a very appropriate time or me. Many thanks.
Hope you make progress Rich
Adam , very well made video. Am I correct that in the backswing there is a little side bend which you refer to as tilt? Would yo describe this as a knock down shot ? What club were you using for this drill?
Thanks Ken.
Enough side bend (toward target) to keep the golfer centered. Yes the drill has a knock down feel at impact, it was an 8 iron.
Best, Adam
I like the bucket drill even better than your former laser beam across the right thigh drill
Thanks Bob!
Best, Adam
Thankyou Adam
I have been playing golf for fifty five years at now reaching the age of 77. I have had a take away problem -from immediately going inside - throughout those years. I have been told about this before a number of times but simply forget I think a few weeks. Your and video explains what I should do very well. I have generally struggled with poor tempo and panic and seldom do I follow through smoothly - although I played of a handicap of eight - twenty five years ago or so . But with advancing years my panic and difficulty in remaining in tempo- and getting any real sense of repeatability and power- are making me snatch at the ball and simply loose length and direction.
Thank you for your clear reminder of a key source of my so many years of mediocracy. I intend now to practice your three takeaway routines over and over until at least I get this part of my swing right - hopefully so that I swing rather than hit my shots.
Prof Richard Weston
Thanks Richard, hope you make good progress
Best, Adam
I too have struggled big time with the rolling of the wrists and have confirmed this fault when I have seen videos of my swing and was wondering if that would cause my feel of flipping at the bottom. I’m guessing that by limiting the rolling of the wrists in the takeaway would that in turn help limiting any excessive wrist action necessary to square it up at the bottom? I’ve seen other videos where rolling the wrists immediately puts you under the plane. If I have to manipulate my wrists just to get it back on plane on the downswing then somehow I need to square it up that takes tremendous timing. Maybe that explains my inconsistency. Some days good some not so good. I will try the drills and I’m sure they will help. Just a quick question though…I’m guessing it’s better to err on the club outside the hands vs rolling it inside? Oh and once again I’m the one that is always complimenting your course and how beautiful it always looks👍👍
Thanks very much Tom, yes, outside the hands better than rolling inside.
Best, Adam
@@Scratchgolfacademy hey I’m back again for another comment on this tip from you..one thing I noticed when you show the improper rolling of the wrists on the takeaway is the right shoulder really is very flat in relation to the ideal swing plane. And with the proper takeaway you showed the right shoulder seems to go up and not around which is a completely different feeling from what I am used to.. I am playing tomorrow and will work on that right shoulder going up and not around. Hopefully that will make my takeaway simple and easy to repeat👍👍
At what point do you bend the right elbow as a right handed golfer?
Patricia,
Abpit after the hands are past the right leg, as viewed face on.
Best, Adam
4 pm eastern time zone
Your swing can be ruined in the first few feet of the backswing, setting the club on the right sequence is something i work on with my pupils. Great drills will be trying them out with my pupils in the coming weeks
Thanks for the comment Darren
Best, Adam
Would it be fair to day the wrist should not start the movement? From my understanding, part of the rolling issue is the wrist hinge portion of the swing starts too early.
Yes, I agree with what you say. It shouldn’t be stiff, but some motion where the core engages and the arms and club flow along
@@Scratchgolfacademy Right on. I think that's been my problem. Less so with irons, but with driver I've been going over the top way too much.
Is that what is meant by creating width in the swing? No one ever explained what that means. Cranking the club inside too early leads to less width, is this correct?
Yes, cranking it inside almost always leads to less width
Other than hitting a ball I can do these inside which is important since we’re buried in snow.
Hope you make progress Jerry
Best, Adam
It’s such a big fix , if you can hit the ball coming inside , then you’ll cream it after
Thanks for the comment
This is my #1 issue it's such a difficult habit to conquer
Hope you make progress Michael
Is the medicus tech outdated? My medicus mandates turning the clubhead towards the sky on the takeaway otherwise the hinge does not work correctly. This method appears the clubhead stays square on the takeaway?
Donald,
I’d say the Medicus would be relevant to the takeaway
Best, Adam
Nice, but as your demos show, this is basically a fix or the take-away phase - you can only maintain this until about arms waist high. You need to demo what happens from there to the top, because it’s not obvious.
Scott,
UA-cam videos are usually not watched until the end, even when they are concise. We can only tackle one thing at a time in these videos. I have many others on things like grip, posture, top of backswing, impact etc.
Thanks, Adam
@@Scratchgolfacademy Thanks for responding, you’re great, Merry Christmas from Texas. I get that you can only do one topic per vid, but my point is that this takeaway is almost 180 degrees opposite from what most weekenders do, but literally leaves them ‘stuck’ waist high. So it’s sort of half a vid.
Fair enough
Hi Adam, great lesson and drills, thank you. As you do the takeaway, do you synch the handle of the club with your bellybutton so that your torso moves in synch with the club as you rotate?
Thanks Rolando, yes I think that’s a good image
Best, Adam
Thanks for clarifying Adam!
People should know Justin Thomas and Adam Scott have neutral to weaker grips, so it is essential for them to take it back like that. The story is gonna be a little different if you have a stronger grip
I’d respectfully disagree Richard. There are a wide variety of grips and backswing combinations in pro golf.
No worries
Best, Adam
@@Scratchgolfacademy who’s Richard lol?
No idea! Blake….
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Alot of hack level players do this.
I agree Marty, it’s a very common problem
Best, Adam