It's possibly due to the fall of the slate being a bit short rather than the opening size or the cut of the pocket, those don't go in on our star table, even with brand new Superfine
All I can say is both players have the same advantage, but sometimes pockets get so much abuse it can change the shape a little and smooth them. Or else they are inaccurate to start with. Also the nappe can have a bias when not brushed properly. Brushing into the pocket for example will make slow shots turn towards it. That should be done before brushing across the table, not afterwards.
Yeh but it favours those players that are super attacking and lack safety game more. Like Luca. Not that he didn't play v well and deserved it but the conditions probably helped him more
Those pockets are millions times easier than my local club and I always get mad because I remember these pockets exist rather in championship.
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This is the reason for all pockets have a 45° angle. Naturaly move on the cushion roll a ball on this one angle bump for one,two,and tree bump before drop in the pocket.
I get the slow/gentle strikes going in but most them where,,, wtf? Was there spin on the object ball causing them to hug? That's the best I can come up with? To be fair after Maguires pot against Robertson I relise anything ANYTHING can happen 🤣
probably the worst playing pockets I've seen in the last years. Man the pockets at the Hong Kong Masters were already big, but those were literally pool pockets. In a world championship (where the pockets usually are even a bit tighter) this is unacceptable and clearly changed the whole championship. Must be really frustrating as a player
Hey the players are playing on the conditions given to them. I think the pro should have tougher table and pocket conditions. Let’s see how much mud will be thrown at me after this, but here I go. I’m an American and have always played on 9foot tables. I don’t have much care for 9ball and can’t stand that it’s become the popular game of pool and it being compared with snooker is ridiculous. I love watching snooker and respect its difficulty. I’m more of a purest when it comes to pool and prefer to play 14.1 straight pool. It’s the better game, the harder game, and more similar to snooker if people want to compare pool and snooker. Straight pool was the original game of pool and it was played on 10foot tables with tight pockets and slower nap cloth. Then it all changed unfortunately to help bring back pools popularity. So they switched to 9ball due its faster pace, made 9foot tables the standard and opened the pockets. All for nothing more to have a fast game, and conditions that made it easy for the pros to runs racks and try shots that they wouldn’t normally attempt. Now many years later 9ball is considered the face of American pool. Young players even calling pool tables “9ball tables”, which drives me crazy. So now you see them making it a little hard for the pros bringing the pockets in Matchroom events to 4 inches. I think the tables should be 10 feet again, with 4inch pockets, and making straight pool the dominant game once again. Earl Strickland is very vocal about these changes as well. Make it hard on the pros. Get rid of the jump cues. Break cues would no longer be needed if the game was 14.1. The pool hall he play out of in NY he plays on a 10foot Brunswick with 4inch cuts. All this being said maybe snooker is becoming that way now to help speed up the game, have more centuries run, and increase its audience. Which I don’t agree with. Hopefully the game you all love doesn’t have the same thing happen to it as pool’s history has. Well there’s my history lesson. Best of rolls to everyone. Now let the bashing begin!
They were far to easy for professional matches, but the camera angles are still deceiving, when you try to compare them with the tables you play on. They would look much smaller if you saw them from the player's perspective.
What really annoys me is the straw-manning argument of "Oh! They're much tougher than the average club table pockets". As if any top professional wants the World Championship to have the same size pockets as the average club.
So this invalidates Selby's 147. More like 24. But seriously, Shaun Murphy talks about this in detail on his podcast with Phil Seymour reviewing the championships so give it a listen and see what you think.
"Invalidates". No it does not lol. You don't invalidate old 147s on easy tables. You don't invalidate thorburns 147 because he had a massive fluke on the first red. Can smell the selby hate all the way over here. Get over it lad 🤣
looks more friendly than my local snooker club's table pocket!😭
Bit like Angela white taking everything inside
Nice reference that
Pool guy: Am I a joke to you?
That pocket on the lower right in the beginning was cut faulty.
I think someone used the seniors pocket templates rather than the championship one's? The pockets that the seniors use always look very forgiving.
These past couple of World championship I've seen buckets literally and the caption matches it
It's possibly due to the fall of the slate being a bit short rather than the opening size or the cut of the pocket, those don't go in on our star table, even with brand new Superfine
Sort of pockets i need when playing 😂
This is why world snooker do not allow their pocket templates to be available to the general public.
Wath do you think of 9 ball table and Marconi cup...is not a pocket is a canyon
All I can say is both players have the same advantage, but sometimes pockets get so much abuse it can change the shape a little and smooth them. Or else they are inaccurate to start with. Also the nappe can have a bias when not brushed properly. Brushing into the pocket for example will make slow shots turn towards it. That should be done before brushing across the table, not afterwards.
Yeh but it favours those players that are super attacking and lack safety game more. Like Luca. Not that he didn't play v well and deserved it but the conditions probably helped him more
Those pockets are millions times easier than my local club and I always get mad because I remember these pockets exist rather in championship.
This is the reason for all pockets have a 45° angle. Naturaly move on the cushion roll a ball on this one angle bump for one,two,and tree bump before drop in the pocket.
I get the slow/gentle strikes going in but most them where,,, wtf? Was there spin on the object ball causing them to hug? That's the best I can come up with? To be fair after Maguires pot against Robertson I relise anything ANYTHING can happen 🤣
probably the worst playing pockets I've seen in the last years. Man the pockets at the Hong Kong Masters were already big, but those were literally pool pockets. In a world championship (where the pockets usually are even a bit tighter) this is unacceptable and clearly changed the whole championship. Must be really frustrating as a player
I also thought they were playing with pool pockets. This isn't cricket, if you know what I mean. 😊
Hey the players are playing on the conditions given to them. I think the pro should have tougher table and pocket conditions. Let’s see how much mud will be thrown at me after this, but here I go. I’m an American and have always played on 9foot tables. I don’t have much care for 9ball and can’t stand that it’s become the popular game of pool and it being compared with snooker is ridiculous. I love watching snooker and respect its difficulty. I’m more of a purest when it comes to pool and prefer to play 14.1 straight pool. It’s the better game, the harder game, and more similar to snooker if people want to compare pool and snooker. Straight pool was the original game of pool and it was played on 10foot tables with tight pockets and slower nap cloth. Then it all changed unfortunately to help bring back pools popularity. So they switched to 9ball due its faster pace, made 9foot tables the standard and opened the pockets. All for nothing more to have a fast game, and conditions that made it easy for the pros to runs racks and try shots that they wouldn’t normally attempt. Now many years later 9ball is considered the face of American pool. Young players even calling pool tables “9ball tables”, which drives me crazy. So now you see them making it a little hard for the pros bringing the pockets in Matchroom events to 4 inches. I think the tables should be 10 feet again, with 4inch pockets, and making straight pool the dominant game once again. Earl Strickland is very vocal about these changes as well. Make it hard on the pros. Get rid of the jump cues. Break cues would no longer be needed if the game was 14.1. The pool hall he play out of in NY he plays on a 10foot Brunswick with 4inch cuts. All this being said maybe snooker is becoming that way now to help speed up the game, have more centuries run, and increase its audience. Which I don’t agree with. Hopefully the game you all love doesn’t have the same thing happen to it as pool’s history has. Well there’s my history lesson. Best of rolls to everyone. Now let the bashing begin!
World championship this year was notorious for having massive pockets.
None of them would of gone in on my local table even with a new cloth on it
They were far to easy for professional matches, but the camera angles are still deceiving, when you try to compare them with the tables you play on. They would look much smaller if you saw them from the player's perspective.
Yeah but I think but I think they should be tighter
And if it would be the force of thought that makes all the difference.... ?
This isn't snooker anymore
It was an error in the table fitting
What really annoys me is the straw-manning argument of "Oh! They're much tougher than the average club table pockets". As if any top professional wants the World Championship to have the same size pockets as the average club.
Pockets like philip schofields ronson😂
And if it would be the force of thought that makes all the difference.... ?
Good job
So this invalidates Selby's 147. More like 24. But seriously, Shaun Murphy talks about this in detail on his podcast with Phil Seymour reviewing the championships so give it a listen and see what you think.
"Invalidates". No it does not lol. You don't invalidate old 147s on easy tables. You don't invalidate thorburns 147 because he had a massive fluke on the first red.
Can smell the selby hate all the way
over here. Get over it lad 🤣
Since when is snooker America pool
Hahahha