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Russian Naval Infantry are so called both in English and Russian; might wish to update the title to something like USMC, Royal Marines, Naval Infantry for SEO
Great episode as always! Do you plan to do an episode on Earl Hancock "Pete" Ellis? The Marine strategic theorist regarded as the father of the island hopping strategy employed in WW2.
I like the pictures with years dated - great detail and profession instead of just adding pictures without these details. And I like the selection or choice that made it into this video. tiny details maybe but someone had added that on WW2 channel and that is great.
8:27 - later Soviet Marine infantry tended to wear Army uniform with their naval caps and the striped undershirt. Earlier in the war, the navy blue or black uniform was found to be unsuited to ground combat as it was too conspicuous. The striped undershirt had elite overtones and was also worn by paratroopers.
Naval infantry in the U.S.S.R. was quite fond of their telnyashkas (the striped undershirt traditionally worn by seamen), so they always wore that, even if their usual uniform was replaced by standard Red Army overalls to avoid standing out on the battlefield.
@@Immoralsalvage sort off. Its not official part of the uniform. Spetznaz just means special forces. Some spetznaz units are naval so they automatically wear them. Many spetznaz are ex VDV ( there is a lot of cross over between them and spetznaz units ) so they wear it to show their heritage. Spetznaz often operate with the VDV so they wear the striped shirt to blend in. But as far as I am aware it is not official uniform for GRU spetznaz.
As a Marine, I am disappointed that you did not mention the invention of the crayon. It was originally created as a durable and long-lasting food source for Marines. It was several years later that Marines learned that they could use it in their coloring books and it was adopted by others as a drawing/coloring tool.
As a Marine myself (70-74) I am HIGHLY offended by this post. WTF are you talking about? The Marines did NOT learn they could use crayons in coloring books. They learned they could use them to write letters home after the Navy taught them how to spell!😉Semper Fi, brother.
My father, who was in the Army Air Force in WWII, told me what soldiers said about Marines then: "When the Army sent out a patrol they sent eight riflemen. When the Marines sent out a patrol, they sent three riflemen, their press agent, a photographer, and three reporters." Harry Truman agreed.
The problem with the US military during WW2 is they had intitutional opposition to everyone else. The regular Marine commanders did not want glory and funds to go to special units. The Navy did not want to share intelligence with the Army. Even within the Army those close to MacCarthur would not share with other generals. That is why the Alamo Scouts were formed. Even post war credits suffered jealousy. Marines with jungle training were shunted aside. You will hear that the US had to bring Fairbairn the US to train because no one knew his style of fighting. Except there had been US Marines working with him and others on the detail to protect the Shanghai Concession all the tme Fairbairn was there. Evens Carlson was there multiple times traveled with Chinese guerrillas. Not only is his work on Makin Island well known as is his vmen's Long Patrol behind Japanese lines. They had one squad leader and three 3 man fire teams.
I hope there will be a video on Italian Frogman, they were probably the best naval special forces of the war and their almost James Bond style base near Gibraltar is a fascinating story.
I don't think they will do that, almost all Italian unit's fought very good in WW2 despite their often very poor equipment. But English literature is often "colored" with after war memories/propaganda where facts often changed. This video is also a very good example of it as the Dutch Marines are no where mentioned, while they where the first in recorded history to launch a amphibian assault with a Marine unit! This video is like talking about Atomic bombs, and forgetting about the 2 used in WW2 :) Same with airborne operations, did you know the Italian where already doing air assaults back in WW1 ? You never hear about that either do you?
@@AA-mf3om nah their navy in general was extremely well trained and their airforce had some really good pilots and this is obviously not even mentioning their mountain troops.
@UC7f57quUW8NUfcuY8raWUQA one of the things about the Italian Frogmen is that they are luckily quite well documented by the British and to a lesser extent the USA, because after the Italian surrender they became allies and showed what they had been able to achieve which fascinated them. That's why they had movies made about them and James Bond references them several times. It's unfortunate about the Dutch marines though.
@@AndrewMitchell123 yep and it gets even more James Bond as fuck, as it had an underwater hatch that they'd swim in and out of with their manned torpedoes.
A great video! Actually the Dutch also had their marines in WW2. These fought at Rotterdam when the Germans invaded. The efforts of the Netherlands Marine Corps have grown out to mythical proportions. There are rumours of marine men swimming across the water with a dagger between their teeth to fight the Germans hand to hand, which is very unlikely. Some sources claim the Germans named them 'the Black Devils', because of their dark uniforms. Still, they fought well.
In Rotterdam, but also in and around Delft and the Hague the regular troops did also fought well, all German plans should have been finished at 22.00 hours on the tenth of may 1940 with the Dutch Royals and cabinet captured and the Dutch army surrendering that day or at least the next day. The German troops led by Hans von Sponeck retreated to the nearby dunes, where they were continually pursued and harassed for five days until the Netherlands surrendered on the 15th. A lot of German troops where either captured or forced away from their planned objectives. Of those captured troops a lot where put on transport to the UK before the surrender and even more damaging was the loss of 182 transport aircraft during those 5 days, most of them being JU 52's. Anti aircraft batteries in Delft where paid for by the Calvé company, contrary to the myth they where not manned by factory workers and other civilians but by regular army personel and managed to shoot down several planes, money well spend.
Not to mention the raid on the Medway in 1667 in which Dutch Marines carried out a daring and successful attack on the British kingdom led by Michiel de Ruyter.
@@vandenberg298 which is seen as the first real landing by marines and still the biggest embarrassment by the Brits, there one and only defeat on British soil.
Soviet Marines were a bit special, due to the fact that most amphibious operations were made not from the sea but from rivers, using various support vessels, including armored boats. Soviet Marines took part in the Berlin operation, where they captured bridges ahead of the main force.
US Marines' 19th Century actions in Tripoli, Mexico and in the US Civil War foreshadowed the expanded use of sea based infantry for land combat and amphibious operations in the 20th Century. Truly ahead of their times.
Even in 1775 american continental marines invaded the british territory of the Bahamas. Not only defeating a small force of Bahamian militia men but also capturing two forts occupied by the royal navy. They also captured a royal navy ship as well as valuable gun powder supplies which would help resupply Washington at Princeton when the marines arrived and fought as line infantry.
You should read the book The Rebel Leathernecks it's about the history of the Confederate States Marine Corps. Has every single action they were involved in really cool stuff most people don't even know they existed they also had a really cool uniform.
A friend of mine who did national service here in Sweden as a paratrooper, back in 1978 or something like that, told me about when they had a US Marine tagging along on an exercise. Some kind of exchange deal. He was a crap skier, didn't know much about how to survive in winter conditions, and got really exhausted way before the Swedish paratroopers. Crap skiing does that to you. And then they did live fire exercises. My friend said that after they saw the Marine shoot with the Swedish AK4 assault rifle (that's a H&K G3), they all decided that if necessary they would carry the Marine's gear for him, and if need be even him, into combat. Because he was so valuable as a marksman that everything else was forgiven. :-)
At around 2.35 where indy is talking about machine guns. The image displayed isn't actually a machine gun but a 37mm pom pom canon. Little nugget for all you history nerds
My father was a Marine in WWII at 15 years old, and then went back for Korea. He use to say he would go to a Marine reunion before his own family reunion. Now, in fairness, that was probably because the Marines fed him better. 😆
I have a friend who was a Vietnam era marine of irish ancestry and he will tell you the marines are tough but nothing compared to an Irish mother. His best friend from the service was a black man from the south and apparently his reply was obviously you haven't meet a black mama from bama if you think the marines are tough.
Hi Indy, kind remark. Ancient Greeks were the first to organize naval infantry as a separate unit. They were called epivatai, επιβάται, meaning the ones that ride a vessel.
The Dutch came up with the present idea of marines, mariniers in the 2nd Anglo Dutch war when they invaded Britain with the raid of Chatham. Commando's where naval troops or infantry used abroad for single missions under a gouverner, admiral etc. That's why the south African army only had commando's when the British occupied it during the French oppression of Holland. They never gave it back so the Boer wars started and commando's fought the British in South Africa. Where boers and Dutch where put in concentration camps. There Churchill came up with the idea of small commando forces that do raids or guerilla (Goo-ril-la not gorilla) warfare. And he brought the ideas back to England and so it comes that both marines and commando are Dutch words used worldwide.
Gotta say of all the marines in WW2, the Soviet marines were extremely versatile. The soviets put them to use in Leningrad to plug the gap in casualties and get supplies to the besieged city, they also helped with artillery spotting at Stalingrad. And the Soviet marines destroyed coastal areas during operation Bagration during raids.
M.A. - I've always been of the opinion that the Dieppe "Raiders", were Churchills "sacrificial lambs", sent out on a forlorn mission, to help to the pressure off the Western Allies to make to hasty a landing in the North of France. Churchill always knew, or should have known, that the "soft underbelly" theory, was just that ... a theory, and yet, another forlorn hope. Stalin had been badgering the Western Allies since early 1942, to make landings "somewhere on the Continent, preferably, France", by the time of the Dieppe Landing these "requests" had reached such a crescendo, that certain figures High up in the Allied food chain, actually feared a repeat of 1917, where Russia made a seperate peace with Germany, and would leave them "holding the bag", so to speak. A half arsed failed "Raid", in an apparant attempt to take and hold a Port, on the North Coast of France, would demonstrate to Stalin, not only the willingness of the Allies to attempt at least something, while Russia was bleed white, but also the "futility" of attempting a landing in Northern France at the time, whilst "proving Churcrhill right", in his "soft underbelly" theory.
@@karlmuller3690 I agree. To put it simply, I find using the term "raid" is a bit weird when refering to a landing with 6000+ troops and 20+ armor vehicles. If it was a raid, it was a total waste of men and resources. Even the St Nazaire raid only had 250ish commandos with a sacrifical ship ready to blow. Dieppe wasted some 20+ Churchill tanks and a bunch of other vehicles... Which leads me to believe the "raid" narrative was really only pushed after the fact with the "oh, we meant to do that" effect. Needless to say most Canadians here don't have a fond historical impression of British leadership because of that event.
@@m.a.118 - Like we Aussies, I would have thought that any fondness our respective nations harboured for their ex - Colonial masters, and their capabilities, re - Military Leadership, has long since drowned in the mud of the Western Front, circa 1914-18.
@Patrick Bateman so? The power that the british empire once had is long gone by WW2. Already in WW1 it showed some pretty bad abilities from commanders and leaders at adapting to it's time. Same for the french who, by WW2, where believed to have the greatest army in Europe only to be smashed by the germans. Sure they where still one of the most powerful country on earth but that was due in no small part to the heavy reliance on it's colony. Just look at the Napoleonic era to see that. And that was a century before the current war. From that point Britain dependency on it's colonies for material and men only grew. Hell that famous battle of britain? 1/3 of the pilots where outsiders like exiles and colonials! The Canadians where seen as the tip of the allied spear in WW1 and had a beach landing at normandy, the Australians fought gallipoli and saved countless brits at sea against the japanese. New-Zeland of all places did the same and the britsh RAJ died by the millions for the crown. The empire was big, many men from all across the world fought with bravery and distinction in it's name and others where just really bad at it. That's it. No need to see ones people as better simply because they where once powerful. Stolen valor, especially from ones ancestors, is never a good look
I was a sailor on an amphibious ship during the Cold war(USS Belleau Wood(LHA-3). Amphibious warfare is the best. We in the Navy call it the Gator Navy because our ship was intended for Marines for amphibious and aviation operations.
I was aboard (temporarily) USS Belleau Wood at Pohang Korea in 1984. We amphibiously landed with the 1st ROK Marine Division there. Amazing ship, 4 ships in one really. Great Captain and Crew.
As a Marine myself (1970-1974) I would just like to say Happy Birthday to all of my brothers who served in the Army. Different branches, same objective!
"Gentleman, you have just completed the longest march of any Marine unit since the Tripoli campaign in 1803! Actually I believe you're driving some of the same humvees they were..." - Lt Col "Godfather" Ferrando, Generation Kill
Might be more relevant in a little less than two years. There's going be Marine vs Marine actions in the near future. It'll be a theme for the next two years or so, maybe three.
South African Marine veteran , served 1987- 1989 , 10 months very tough training thereafter operations on Zambezi River ...Held our own amongst a fantastic South African military , our motto , "All the way ! " 👌
@@tomjustis7237 Thanks very much Tom , our Semper Fi brothers have always set the benchmark ...sad to see the world going mad ...looks like we'll be in action again , at least I've got my 30carbine ready 😀 Godbless you and all Patriots worldwide ✝️
My father, a US ARMY Combat Engineer went in at night and cleared the beach for the Marines on Guam. I'd really like to see a video about the US ARMY Rangers.
My granddad was an Engineer in the Army. Whether it was combat engineer or not I do not know. He served in both the European and Pacific theaters. I do know he spent time in the Philippines at the end of the war and maybe some time after doing clean up work. Getting Japanese holdouts to surrender.
@@karlmuller3690 one of the men with my grandfather wrote a book about his life. I do not know the name of it. He describes in a bit of detail about the experience. For the most part they would put guards on the cave entrances and get already captures Japanese officers to order them out. On occasions where that did not work. The pumping of gasoline into caves did one way or the other.
@@karlmuller3690 My understanding from the excerpt that I read was that most came out when the gas was pumped in, without lighting. There were a few hardcore ones. By that point the war was over and these were seen as senseless deaths.
The US Marines had some forward thinking Officers in the 1920s-30s. They did a deep study of the Gallipoli Operation and why it failed. They came up with solutions for all those problems and in WWII conducted many successful Amphibious Operations.
@@Warszawski_Modernizm , His exact date of arrival is not known, but he was a soldier in Pierre Payen de Noyan's company. Pierre arrived in New France in 1687 and received his commission in 1690. Claude's first appearance in records is his marriage to Jeanne Cusson in 1696 where it is stated that he was a soldier in Noyan's company. In the 1690s France and England were embroiled in King William's War aka the Nine Year's War and this began the first of the Intercolonial Wars. Instead of returning to France after the war, he was given a plot of land in La Prairie, Québec for his service and this began a line of Guérins in La Prairie that exists to this day. In 1870, Célestin Guérin, one of Claude's descendants, his wife and two of his sons emigrated to Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. The timing of the emigration was the leading edge of a mass emigration of over 1 million French Canadians to the mill towns of New England over the next few decades.
Semper Fi Indy! I served in the US Marines back in the early 90's. During my time I went to several places that are part of World War II, having been assigned to Marine Barracks Guam and later deploying to Okinawa as part of a unit rotation in the West Pac.
US Army: We’re low on ammo, no food, and someone stole all the toilet paper and cigarettes. US Marines: *Casually walks by whistling with pockets bugling with Army supplies*
I might be mistaken, but I thought the landings in Europe were all carried out by allied army units. I believe the soviets were the only ones who used marines in Europe in any significant capacity, but that's not saying much since, as noted, soviet marines fought mostly on the front lines.
The royal marines were commandos functionally. I believe they were deployed before the main invasion force to disable and soften up the defences where they could. Similar to the paratroopers.
Royal marines were special forces, commandos etc. They saw significant action in select missions in Europe including D-day. 5 brigades in fact. So I suppose it depends on what you count as significant. Did they have significant numbers. No. Did they have significant impact. Absolutely.
For the U.S. at least no marines would be involved directly in the amphibious landings in North Africa or Europe. There simply weren't enough of them for all the amphibious operations of a global multiple front war, so rather early on it was decided to employ them in the Pacific where they'd be of most use. Given their expertise however some marine officers were involved with the planning of the D-Day landings, and some others were involved in operations behind enemy lines through assignments with the Office of Strategic Services.
Six commandos (Special service battalions) of the Royal Marines were involved in the D-Day landings. Their main role was to hold the flanks of the beachheads until the rest of the lads showed up. This was 75% of the RM commandos. They were also present at the Sicily landings and a number of major river crossings after D-Day. My boss at my first retail job was with the North Shore Regiment and fought next to the Royal Marines on D-Day. He always spoke of them with great respect.
Good topic. But impossible to cover all the history in a short video. My dad was in the Marines in the 30s. I was a Marine during Vietnam. There was a certain attitude that stayed the same all through.
I noted no mention to the Spanish Infanteria de Marina. They are the oldest marine corps in existence today. Also, the Alhucemas Landing in 1925 during the Morocco War was the first large scale landing using tanks, and was used by Eisenhower as a model for D-Day.
I think one of the first and certainly one of the most outstanding historical operations of a waterborn force is The Raid On Chatham. Performed by Dutch Marines under command of Willem Joseph Van Ghent in june 1667. They annihilated the English fleet at harbor. The stern of the captured flag ship Royal Charles is permanently exposed in the Rijksmuseum, where it can be found in the room next to Rembrandts Nightwatch.
One of the greatest aspects of this channel is, despite the overall dark subject matter presented, a considerate and appropriate bit of humor is incorporated into the presentation. This is significant because those who know how and when to laugh will know how and when to cry. Those who know how and when to cry are capable of sympathy, mercy, and prefer peace over war.
My great uncle is major Gen Ross E Rowell MOH winner USMC retired an was known as the father of air to ground surpport in WW2 ... Look him up he was a great man an our family is still proud of him
@ James Thank you for sharing about him, it's amazing hearing from the families of people involved at the time. I found this quite interesting: "On December 27, 1942, Rowell read a dispatch from Admiral Halsey on Guadalcanal speaking to the negative effects that night time raids from Japanese bombers were having on the ground troops. Based on his earlier travels and observations, Rowell immediately recommended that a night fighter unit be made "available immediately for overseas duty". This message to Marine Headquarters in Washington would be the catalyst for kicking the development of Marine Night Fighters into high gear."
@@WorldWarTwo he was why I went in the USMC an still have family on the uss AZ forward powder mag 1. An the family has fought in every war America has been in .. We came here in 1628 from Wales . An have a Aussie major Gen in the family to he fought in ww1 an ww2
I have a cousin who was a Captain with the Royal Marines 40 Commando & a friend of mine who was a Major with the US 1st Marine Division. My cousin retired from the Royal Marines in late 2009 after his tour of Afghanistan & my mate in the US 1st Marine Division retired in 2011. Both have served a long time. Both units are a highly specialised commando force. The US 1st Marine Division southern cross insignia was inspired by the the Victorian state flag after the Guadalcanal Campaign. Their march song is Waltzing Matilda written by Banjo Paterson which is also Australia's unofficial national anthem. My mate, when he & his mates came out to Australia were always awed by the esteem of 1st MARDIV history held by Australians as they are adopted sons. 40 Commando has a huge history, Dieppe, Anzio, Malayan Emergency, Falklands, Iraq & Afghanistan. US playwright & poet Epes Sargent wrote A Life on the Ocean Wave which Royal Marines adopted for their march.
As the Royal Marines used to say, "We're here to stop the officers and men from eating each other"!! On a ship of the line the marine barracks were located between the officer's flats and the men's mess decks.
in 1618 was created the " Terco da Armada da Coroa de Portugal " , " Corpo de Fusileiros "the first permanent military unit ,considered to be an specialized elite of Naval infantry...
Did you guys forgot the "Raid on the Medway"? That is the first time a specialized Marine force became world famous for doing something never done like that before. At the time it was considered world shocking and I believe it shaped Marine forces more than the 2nd World War did, as most Marine forces where already established before WW2. edit: This video is like talking about the atomic bombs, and not mentioning the first two used in WW2 (and the first 2 might have highlighted the importance of them quite a bit).
As a Dutchman I would have loved to hear it mentioned but in their defence, the focus of the channel lies on WW2. They only went over the age of sail period briefly to establish a rough idea for the viewer of what marines did before the 20th century. So it's probably not so much a case of forgetting about the Raid on the Medway but rather an issue of fitting a more specific event like the raid into the video, timewise.
@@DarkMessiah33 I do understand their focus on WW2. But Amphibious assaults where something that only became a thing when the Raid on the Medway happened, it is an historic significant event as it changed peoples perspective. And the fact it happened against the most powerful nation on earth at that time made it something that resounded worldwide. It's not something "marines did before the 20th Century", Marines changed after the the Raid on the Medway, not after WW2, or 20th Century. Before the Raid on the medway there where no opposed landings. Navies fought and after they won and the sea was safe they landed troops that could advance with support (even the Vikings only made unopposed landings). That all changed after the second Anglo-Dutch war. I guess I'm just sad that even this channel only caters to "make it a good story and ignore facts". So many people now grow up with history only being told by one biased source, it's like the last samurai movie, where an American becomes the last true samurai.
@@johnb4689 “‘make a good story and ignore the facts’” pretty baseless claim. I don’t know if it is national pride for you, but to say they do that because of what is most likely an oversight is dramatic. I think it could be worth mentioning in the video, but I don’t think it is extremely necessary to include especially as you mentioned in your own comment it is a WW2 channel. I think the context they gave was sufficient.
There actually were marines at Normandy @Lycaon Pictus while they were under navy command some marines were sent to the fighting tops of the ships aka the crows nest. They were used to snipe german naval mines exploding them so ships could pass. Also a marine photographer as well as well as a LT correspondent. Many of the ships on d day had marine compliments however just like sailors they were compliments to the ship meaning that they had duties on the ship and wernt suited for the actual land invasion. Its not well known but the us marines were in fact at the Normandy invasions and played a similar role to the one they played in the 18 and 19th centuries naval warfare.
Could you do a vid on cavalry during the Second World War? They were critical, especially on the eastern front, but are rarely spoken of in depth, seen as anachronistic hold overs
A German soldier whose unit was attacked by Soviet cavalry in 1941 noted in his journal that two men next to him had been killed with sabres "eighty years after Sadowa", a Prussian defeat of Austria in the 19th century. He had thought until then that cavalry were hopelessly outdated.
Yeah. I'm curious about this as well. The Russians had Cavalry and Guards Cav formations throughout the war. Were they a real asset or fairly ineffective as they were in the Great War? I know the Nazis had at least two Cav corps in WW2, one regular army the other SS. Were these modern mechanized cav or horse cav?
@Andy Reznick If I recall correctly, the Nazi Heer calvary division was later reformed as a panzer division after France, (24th), and destroyed in Stalingrad. And according to David Glanz and Jonathan House in "when the titans clashed", and the documentary Soviet storm, Soviet calvary mostly acted as mobile infantry after several costly and ineffective calvary charges early in the war. Starting with the battle of Moscow, calvary units will fought dismounted, whereas the horses provide them mobility during deployment amidst the snow. Soviet calvary units later formed into Calvary Mechanized Corps, mixed tank/calvary, and Mechanized units that can travel very quickly across difficult terrain. They probably seen action before operation Bagration, like in operation Uranus and counterattacks around Kursk, but Bagration is the one operation that I am sure they were used to wreck absolute havoc. They would stay in the fight up till Manchuria in 1945, after that, not sure.
Sorry, in peacetime, which was most of the time way back when sails were popular, (Royal) Marines on warships at sea mainly functioned as VIP bodyguards/ enforcers for the ship's officers. Captains could, of course, expand or contract their given assignments depending on his evaluation of their abilities ... or lack thereof.
Thanks for this interesting video. One of my grandfathers served as one of the first Royal Marine Commandos in WW2. He never spoke about his time in the war, and we only discovered the details of his service record after both he and my grandmother passed away.
"What's this?! This incredible free history video is not exhaustive down to the last country, branch, weapon, uniform and man! And especially not the one _my_ family was involved with! By God, to comments I go to give them a piece of my mind!"
What about Cortez's men who attacked Mexico City by water and defeated the Aztecs? Was that just a special Conquistador/Marine unit. (All helped along a great deal by native tribes of course.)
@@douglasturner6153 From what I know those soldiers were more like ad hoc units specially created for that siege and then disolved. The Infantería de Marina is a regular formation which has remained active ever since its creation
Thanks Chamel. That's a lot of good research. Look's like it was a derogatory term for non Spanish. Even against crude Spaniard's. Of couse the non Spanish also had their own derogatory terms for the Spanish.
i bet it has not. I would bet today's Marines in which ever military are highly trained, and skilled in ways that the Marines of yesteryear would think was voodoo and magic. Drones, Electronic warfare and communications, advances in night vision, close air support, artillery and weapons and tactics. All that being said the ones from yesteryear would recognize another Marine. I am not a Marine and I have the utmost respect for those that wear that uniform. They do not pass them out at the candy store.
Royal Marines also traditionally manned a main armament gun turret in capital ships. Good healthy competition within the RN regarding speed of loading etc
US Marines also had that tradition. The #2 turret of the USS Texas was Marine-manned during the shore bombardment and close support phases of the Normandy landings.
@@HootOwl513 yes thank you. Many people don't know that the us marines were at Normandy they just didn't participate on the land. They were in the fighting tops (crows nest) sniping german naval mines as well as the anti aircraft guns and some others as well. The u.s navy had many ships designed for marine compliments to assist them. These marine compliments didnt magically dissappear from the Atlantic fleet just because most of the marines were needed in the pacific.
@@jacobjones4766 While the trend was to pull more Marines from FMF LANT* and transfer them to FMF PAC, some ships retained a Marine Detachment. Some captains and admirals insisted on keeping their honor guard. [*Fleet Marine Force, Atlantic, Pacific -- not sure if that acromyn was in use in the Early 1940s, but it's handy.] I saw in another You Tube presentation about the Texas [BB-35] and her role in the Omaha landing, that someone at the time, suggested sending her Marine detachment ashore to help the Rangers at Pointe du Hoc. The US Army was dead against it. And it would not have been a good idea anyway. While all Marines are infantry-trained in Boot Camp and right after, the MarDet of BB-35, did not have full 782 [infantry] Gear issue aboard, and had not been training for vertical cliff assault like the Rangers had. Also interservice rivalry -- maybe not as severe as the Japanese Army/Navy Game -- but still an issue, was a factor. Best reason was that Turret Two was cracking Kraut pillboxes with 14'' rounds at close range in a workmanlike manner, but with a vengence... Taking them off that task would've been a tactical blunder.
Yeah Sipain, Pelilu, Iwo Jima, Okinawa yeah those are all just such Cakewalks. The Marines PR department just pumping up how tough they were, but boy did those poor fly boys have it rough going back to safety after each mission getting good food and hot showers.
@@Immoralsalvage Add still the 8th air Force lost more men . They must have had a cake walk . With the odds of next to Zero of living to finish your mission
@@Schaneification Ok fly boy The Marines have twice the casualties of the 8th Air force which had 40,000 killed Marines had 20,000 killed and 60,000 wounded.
@@exmarine268 I have to disagree with your last sentence there. The strategic bombing campaign against Germany slowed down their equipment production, hampered their fuel production, and delayed their transportation networks. The loss of life is disturbing of course, but if you wage total war you have to be willing to put your country's civilians on the line too. By slowing down the enemy's production you buy time for your own production to catch up, and then surpass the enemy's production. And logistics is what won the war for the Allies.
You know, it's kinda sad that despite less famous than their britain or american peers, soviet marines actually saw the heaviest fighting among the allies from 1941 until 1942, from landing against German in the north, sea raids against Germany, heavy fighting in siege of odessa, the long siege of Sevastopol, kerch landing, even in stalingrad truely unfortunate, their stories should have been more popular
They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give themselves to me. Like clay I shall mold them and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armor shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines such that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear. --The Emperor of Mankind.
A quibble: The Japanese port-city of Yokosuka is pronounced Ya-kus-ka. No idea why, but I suspect it's much like the pronunciation of English towns like Worchester (Wooster) or Gloucester (Glawster). I spent many a day and night on the streets of that splendid city. Good times...................................
Three peaces of history for you US Marines! 1. two Marines in the British Navy who were Americans jumped ship went to fight for the American revolution they still called themselves Marines! They were the very first US Marines..... 2. World War I a us Marine took three German officers and one the congregation medal of Honor! He went the wrong way and sort of disobey orders as well! Carlson's Raider's kept the Marines and Army supplied by raiding Japanese supply lines! Hitting ammo and food dump's and the Japanese had a price on there heads!!! And also saying that they were recruited from jails and insane assylumes for blood lust! Keep it up guys it was a good episode!
28th of October 1664 during the riegn of king Charles the 2nd of England the Duke of Albanys Maratime regiment of foot was formed 357 years later they are known as the Royal Marines with an added role of commandos since ww2. They have fought all over the globe. Per mare Per Terram By sea By land.
On the subject of screwed up landings (3m40s in) of troops the then Major George S Patton wrote a paper for the USA Army staff college about what a screw up the Gallipoli landings & battles were.
Minor Seas weren't the that much of dividers in the olden days - land were cumbersome to cross before the invention of the rail. The Roman empire were on the shores of the Mediterranean, the Spanish, Portuguese and British around the Atlantic first and then the globe...
Hey Indy are there any episodes dealing w the Leibstandarte SS and Bruno Gesche's battles w Heinrich Himmler over his Alcoholism even at one point making Him sign an Abstain Pact⁉️
It amused me how the Romans at first, competent in land warfare but inept in naval matters, turned the problem around by making a naval battle into a land one. [Roman Boarding Action] Carthage: "Wait, that's illegal!" Rome: "I will make it legal."
Just to correct something, the earliest versions of Marines comes from the Ramses era when he was dealing with the sea people. He had to trian Marines, sailers/soldiers, to do amphibious landings from river bank to river bank along the Nile. I also read somewhere that some Marines went on amphibious raids. This is probably phoenician mercenaries. The new kingdom was famous for highering Lybians for policing and phoenician for sailers
I read a book by an ex-Black Beret, or Soviet naval scouts. They essentially functioned the same way as commandos driving into German/Finnish waters in the Far North. Raiding outposts and capturing or killing officers. Later on they were deployed against Japan in Manchuria and Korea.
The Royal Marines were established on the 28th October 1664 as "The Duke of York and Albany's maritime regiment of foot" and only became "The Royal Marines" in 1802.
Indie and crew, i'm sad you forget about one of the oldest marine corp in Europe , the french Troupes de Marines, though they were called Troupes Coloniales (colonial troops) at that time. They were established during Louis XIII reign by the Cardinal Richelieu to be support troops to the Navy and guarding navy facilities all around the kingdom and its colonies. They distinguished themselves during the franco prussian war of 1870 by resisting to the last bullet (see Baseille battle picture), during the first world war and they were the basis of the first free french troops in french african colonies in Tchad under colonel Leclerc command. Basic summery but still i think you should have mentionned them.
The english, dutch and French claim the oldest title. But the Spanish marines were first created in the 1570s a century before the French and English counterparts. If you just consider all historical naval infantry marines its hard to say who was first, as both the ancient romans and ancients Greeks had marines
@@jacobjones4766 the first marine units(fanti da mar) were created by venice during the 4th crusade and were used throughout the maritme republic history notable mentions are siege of Candia and war of morea and other engagements
@@macknut2033 just adding shit onto the list. Congrats its one of the 10,000 organizations that claim the first title, that was my whole fucking point.
Not many US marines in Europe all US landings were army. In Pacific half of landings were army. Marines are light infantry (riflemen) with mostly naval artillery as support. Hawaii was primarily defended on land by 2 army divisions, with army coast artillery no marines except fleet base force.
"On Sunday, 7 December 1941, there were approximately 4,500 Marines stationed at Pearl Harbor and its vicinity. Ashore, in addition to Marine Aircraft Group 21 (MAG-21) at Ewa and the Marine Barracks, there were a variety of Marine units: 2d Engineer Battalion, 2d Service Battalion, 1st Defense Battalion (rear echelon), 3d Defense Battalion, 4th Defense Battalion, and a token element from the 6th Defense Battalion." "Over 800 officers and enlisted Marines were serving aboard ships at Pearl Harbor at the time of the Japanese attack. There were Marine ships’ detachments aboard the USS Arizona, California, Helena, Honolulu, Maryland, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia." www.usmcu.edu/Research/Marine-Corps-History-Division/Brief-Histories/Marines-in-World-War-II/US-Marines-at-Pearl-Harbor-7-December-1941/
while they were under navy command some marines were sent to the fighting tops of the ships aka the crows nest. They were used to snipe german naval mines exploding them so ships could pass. Also a marine photographer as well as well as a LT correspondent did actually land on the beaches.. Many of the ships on d day had marine compliments however just like sailors they were compliments to the ship meaning that they had duties on the ship and weren't suited for the actual land invasion. Its not well known but the us marines were in fact at the Normandy invasions and played a similar role to the one they played in the 18 and 19th centuries naval warfare. They also manned anti air cannons and some main guns as well. U could say their navy half was showing much more than their infantry half during the Normandy invasions.
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Without hanzi or kanji i am reduced to guessing. Insert blackball joke, stir until opening
Russian Naval Infantry are so called both in English and Russian; might wish to update the title to something like USMC, Royal Marines, Naval Infantry for SEO
Special episode about the kingdom of Egypt during WW2 please
Great episode as always! Do you plan to do an episode on Earl Hancock "Pete" Ellis? The Marine strategic theorist regarded as the father of the island hopping strategy employed in WW2.
I like the pictures with years dated - great detail and profession instead of just adding pictures without these details. And I like the selection or choice that made it into this video. tiny details maybe but someone had added that on WW2 channel and that is great.
8:27 - later Soviet Marine infantry tended to wear Army uniform with their naval caps and the striped undershirt. Earlier in the war, the navy blue or black uniform was found to be unsuited to ground combat as it was too conspicuous. The striped undershirt had elite overtones and was also worn by paratroopers.
That is correct I belive the first soviet paratrooper commander was a naval officer so his men adopted his look.
So is this where the Spetznas wearing Blue and White striped shirts comes from?
Naval infantry in the U.S.S.R. was quite fond of their telnyashkas (the striped undershirt traditionally worn by seamen), so they always wore that, even if their usual uniform was replaced by standard Red Army overalls to avoid standing out on the battlefield.
@@Immoralsalvage sort off. Its not official part of the uniform. Spetznaz just means special forces. Some spetznaz units are naval so they automatically wear them. Many spetznaz are ex VDV ( there is a lot of cross over between them and spetznaz units ) so they wear it to show their heritage. Spetznaz often operate with the VDV so they wear the striped shirt to blend in. But as far as I am aware it is not official uniform for GRU spetznaz.
Spetznatz dont have a specific uniform ,they use the uniform of the unit they are attached to or within.
As a Marine, I am disappointed that you did not mention the invention of the crayon. It was originally created as a durable and long-lasting food source for Marines. It was several years later that Marines learned that they could use it in their coloring books and it was adopted by others as a drawing/coloring tool.
As a Marine myself (70-74) I am HIGHLY offended by this post. WTF are you talking about? The Marines did NOT learn they could use crayons in coloring books. They learned they could use them to write letters home after the Navy taught them how to spell!😉Semper Fi, brother.
You jarheads and your crayons 🙄
@@tomjustis7237 I thought they just drew pictures with the pretty colors.
Bruh
Lol
My father, who was in the Army Air Force in WWII, told me what soldiers said about Marines then: "When the Army sent out a patrol they sent eight riflemen. When the Marines sent out a patrol, they sent three riflemen, their press agent, a photographer, and three reporters." Harry Truman agreed.
So, thee Marines do the work of 8 soldiers?
@@theonerob8870 well no . They would be in trouble and have to abandon the journalists .
Agents for Maccarthur's ego .
Lol. True
The problem with the US military during WW2 is they had intitutional opposition to everyone else. The regular Marine commanders did not want glory and funds to go to special units. The Navy did not want to share intelligence with the Army. Even within the Army those close to MacCarthur would not share with other generals. That is why the Alamo Scouts were formed. Even post war credits suffered jealousy. Marines with jungle training were shunted aside. You will hear that the US had to bring Fairbairn the US to train because no one knew his style of fighting. Except there had been US Marines working with him and others on the detail to protect the Shanghai Concession all the tme Fairbairn was there. Evens Carlson was there multiple times traveled with Chinese guerrillas. Not only is his work on Makin Island well known as is his vmen's Long Patrol behind Japanese lines. They had one squad leader and three 3 man fire teams.
Maybe I’m an idiot but what does this mean?
I hope there will be a video on Italian Frogman, they were probably the best naval special forces of the war and their almost James Bond style base near Gibraltar is a fascinating story.
One of the few italian units that were of high standards
I don't think they will do that, almost all Italian unit's fought very good in WW2 despite their often very poor equipment. But English literature is often "colored" with after war memories/propaganda where facts often changed. This video is also a very good example of it as the Dutch Marines are no where mentioned, while they where the first in recorded history to launch a amphibian assault with a Marine unit! This video is like talking about Atomic bombs, and forgetting about the 2 used in WW2 :)
Same with airborne operations, did you know the Italian where already doing air assaults back in WW1 ? You never hear about that either do you?
@@AA-mf3om nah their navy in general was extremely well trained and their airforce had some really good pilots and this is obviously not even mentioning their mountain troops.
@UC7f57quUW8NUfcuY8raWUQA one of the things about the Italian Frogmen is that they are luckily quite well documented by the British and to a lesser extent the USA, because after the Italian surrender they became allies and showed what they had been able to achieve which fascinated them. That's why they had movies made about them and James Bond references them several times.
It's unfortunate about the Dutch marines though.
@@AndrewMitchell123 yep and it gets even more James Bond as fuck, as it had an underwater hatch that they'd swim in and out of with their manned torpedoes.
A great video! Actually the Dutch also had their marines in WW2. These fought at Rotterdam when the Germans invaded. The efforts of the Netherlands Marine Corps have grown out to mythical proportions. There are rumours of marine men swimming across the water with a dagger between their teeth to fight the Germans hand to hand, which is very unlikely. Some sources claim the Germans named them 'the Black Devils', because of their dark uniforms. Still, they fought well.
In Rotterdam, but also in and around Delft and the Hague the regular troops did also fought well, all German plans should have been finished at 22.00 hours on the tenth of may 1940 with the Dutch Royals and cabinet captured and the Dutch army surrendering that day or at least the next day. The German troops led by Hans von Sponeck retreated to the nearby dunes, where they were continually pursued and harassed for five days until the Netherlands surrendered on the 15th. A lot of German troops where either captured or forced away from their planned objectives. Of those captured troops a lot where put on transport to the UK before the surrender and even more damaging was the loss of 182 transport aircraft during those 5 days, most of them being JU 52's.
Anti aircraft batteries in Delft where paid for by the Calvé company, contrary to the myth they where not manned by factory workers and other civilians but by regular army personel and managed to shoot down several planes, money well spend.
Not to mention the raid on the Medway in 1667 in which Dutch Marines carried out a daring and successful attack on the British kingdom led by Michiel de Ruyter.
@@vandenberg298 which is seen as the first real landing by marines and still the biggest embarrassment by the Brits, there one and only defeat on British soil.
I'm pretty sure there was a time in ww2 where a marine swam with a dagger in his mouth to kill the enemy
Soviet Marines were a bit special, due to the fact that most amphibious operations were made not from the sea but from rivers, using various support vessels, including armored boats. Soviet Marines took part in the Berlin operation, where they captured bridges ahead of the main force.
There were amphibious landings performed from sea by soviet Marines in Odessa and in Crimea during WWII thought
US Marines' 19th Century actions in Tripoli, Mexico and in the US Civil War foreshadowed the expanded use of sea based infantry for land combat and amphibious operations in the 20th Century. Truly ahead of their times.
Even in 1775 american continental marines invaded the british territory of the Bahamas. Not only defeating a small force of Bahamian militia men but also capturing two forts occupied by the royal navy. They also captured a royal navy ship as well as valuable gun powder supplies which would help resupply Washington at Princeton when the marines arrived and fought as line infantry.
You should read the book The Rebel Leathernecks it's about the history of the Confederate States Marine Corps. Has every single action they were involved in really cool stuff most people don't even know they existed they also had a really cool uniform.
A friend of mine who did national service here in Sweden as a paratrooper, back in 1978 or something like that, told me about when they had a US Marine tagging along on an exercise. Some kind of exchange deal. He was a crap skier, didn't know much about how to survive in winter conditions, and got really exhausted way before the Swedish paratroopers. Crap skiing does that to you. And then they did live fire exercises. My friend said that after they saw the Marine shoot with the Swedish AK4 assault rifle (that's a H&K G3), they all decided that if necessary they would carry the Marine's gear for him, and if need be even him, into combat. Because he was so valuable as a marksman that everything else was forgiven. :-)
At around 2.35 where indy is talking about machine guns. The image displayed isn't actually a machine gun but a 37mm pom pom canon. Little nugget for all you history nerds
As a former US Marine, thanks for telling the story of Marines throughout the world and their development and utilization up to World War Two.
6:44 The Aurora is still anchored in St Petersburg to this day. I saw it when i was there
My father was a Marine in WWII at 15 years old, and then went back for Korea.
He use to say he would go to a Marine reunion before his own family reunion.
Now, in fairness, that was probably because the Marines fed him better. 😆
I mean the are famous for their red crayons
I have a friend who was a Vietnam era marine of irish ancestry and he will tell you the marines are tough but nothing compared to an Irish mother. His best friend from the service was a black man from the south and apparently his reply was obviously you haven't meet a black mama from bama if you think the marines are tough.
Hi Indy, kind remark. Ancient Greeks were the first to organize naval infantry as a separate unit. They were called epivatai, επιβάται, meaning the ones that ride a vessel.
Thank you for the info!
The Dutch came up with the present idea of marines, mariniers in the 2nd Anglo Dutch war when they invaded Britain with the raid of Chatham.
Commando's where naval troops or infantry used abroad for single missions under a gouverner, admiral etc. That's why the south African army only had commando's when the British occupied it during the French oppression of Holland. They never gave it back so the Boer wars started and commando's fought the British in South Africa. Where boers and Dutch where put in concentration camps. There Churchill came up with the idea of small commando forces that do raids or guerilla (Goo-ril-la not gorilla) warfare. And he brought the ideas back to England and so it comes that both marines and commando are Dutch words used worldwide.
Gotta say of all the marines in WW2, the Soviet marines were extremely versatile. The soviets put them to use in Leningrad to plug the gap in casualties and get supplies to the besieged city, they also helped with artillery spotting at Stalingrad. And the Soviet marines destroyed coastal areas during operation Bagration during raids.
Good info!
5:50 - "British admirals are reluctant to try a major landing on the continent. Fearing another Gal-
*Sad Dieppe noises*
we haven't gotten there yet. It's only June 1942.
M.A. - I've always been of the opinion that the Dieppe "Raiders", were Churchills
"sacrificial lambs", sent out on a forlorn mission, to help to the pressure off the
Western Allies to make to hasty a landing in the North of France. Churchill always
knew, or should have known, that the "soft underbelly" theory, was just that ... a
theory, and yet, another forlorn hope.
Stalin had been badgering the Western Allies since early 1942, to make landings
"somewhere on the Continent, preferably, France", by the time of the Dieppe Landing
these "requests" had reached such a crescendo, that certain figures High up in the
Allied food chain, actually feared a repeat of 1917, where Russia made a seperate
peace with Germany, and would leave them "holding the bag", so to speak. A half
arsed failed "Raid", in an apparant attempt to take and hold a Port, on the North
Coast of France, would demonstrate to Stalin, not only the willingness of the Allies
to attempt at least something, while Russia was bleed white, but also the "futility"
of attempting a landing in Northern France at the time, whilst "proving Churcrhill
right", in his "soft underbelly" theory.
@@karlmuller3690 I agree. To put it simply, I find using the term "raid" is a bit weird when refering to a landing with 6000+ troops and 20+ armor vehicles. If it was a raid, it was a total waste of men and resources. Even the St Nazaire raid only had 250ish commandos with a sacrifical ship ready to blow. Dieppe wasted some 20+ Churchill tanks and a bunch of other vehicles... Which leads me to believe the "raid" narrative was really only pushed after the fact with the "oh, we meant to do that" effect.
Needless to say most Canadians here don't have a fond historical impression of British leadership because of that event.
@@m.a.118 - Like we Aussies, I would have
thought that any fondness our respective
nations harboured for their ex - Colonial
masters, and their capabilities, re - Military
Leadership, has long since drowned in the
mud of the Western Front, circa 1914-18.
@Patrick Bateman so? The power that the british empire once had is long gone by WW2. Already in WW1 it showed some pretty bad abilities from commanders and leaders at adapting to it's time. Same for the french who, by WW2, where believed to have the greatest army in Europe only to be smashed by the germans.
Sure they where still one of the most powerful country on earth but that was due in no small part to the heavy reliance on it's colony. Just look at the Napoleonic era to see that. And that was a century before the current war. From that point Britain dependency on it's colonies for material and men only grew. Hell that famous battle of britain? 1/3 of the pilots where outsiders like exiles and colonials! The Canadians where seen as the tip of the allied spear in WW1 and had a beach landing at normandy, the Australians fought gallipoli and saved countless brits at sea against the japanese. New-Zeland of all places did the same and the britsh RAJ died by the millions for the crown.
The empire was big, many men from all across the world fought with bravery and distinction in it's name and others where just really bad at it. That's it. No need to see ones people as better simply because they where once powerful. Stolen valor, especially from ones ancestors, is never a good look
I was a sailor on an amphibious ship during the Cold war(USS Belleau Wood(LHA-3). Amphibious warfare is the best. We in the Navy call it the Gator Navy because our ship was intended for Marines for amphibious and aviation operations.
Thank You so very much for your service!
I salute you Elwin38 for having the spirit of Dorie Miller! A Hero at the Pearl Harbor attack Dec.7 1941!
I was aboard (temporarily) USS Belleau Wood at Pohang Korea in 1984. We amphibiously landed with the 1st ROK Marine Division there. Amazing ship, 4 ships in one really. Great Captain and Crew.
-Anniversary of US army
-Makes video on marines
Timeghost does a little trolling
Well one of the deadliest things in this world is a pissed off US Marine who doesn't have his coffee or crayons and his rifle....
As a retired Marine, I got a laugh out of it.
Semper Fi!
And I'm here for it! 🤣♥️
As a Marine myself (1970-1974) I would just like to say Happy Birthday to all of my brothers who served in the Army. Different branches, same objective!
lol same old story, Army does the leg work and Marines get the press coverage.
World War Two, when are you gonna release a video on Claire Lee Chennault and the Flying Tigers?
I actually met a Flying Tigers veteran a few years back when I was volunteering at a hospital in California. Bless him.
@@Foreign0817 never heard of them that would be a great video.
Is guess that one is 6 months due.
Oh shoot, I almost forgot about them.
Hear hear- second!
"Gentleman, you have just completed the longest march of any Marine unit since the Tripoli campaign in 1803! Actually I believe you're driving some of the same humvees they were..." - Lt Col "Godfather" Ferrando, Generation Kill
Well made special Indy and team, you should also do one about the paratroopers of all countries in WW2
True that. Its very interesting how Soviet Union starved and yet every major city had a parachute tower.
Might be more relevant in a little less than two years.
There's going be Marine vs Marine actions in the near future. It'll be a theme for the next two years or so, maybe three.
As a Pole I hope they'll cover Cichociemni.
South African Marine veteran , served 1987- 1989 , 10 months very tough training thereafter operations on Zambezi River ...Held our own amongst a fantastic South African military , our motto , "All the way ! " 👌
A sharp salute to you and your fellow S.A. Marines from a U.S. Marine and Vietnam vet (1970-1974).
@@tomjustis7237 Thanks very much Tom , our Semper Fi brothers have always set the benchmark ...sad to see the world going mad ...looks like we'll be in action again , at least I've got my 30carbine ready 😀 Godbless you and all Patriots worldwide ✝️
My father, a US ARMY Combat Engineer went in at night and cleared the beach for the Marines on Guam.
I'd really like to see a video about the US ARMY Rangers.
My granddad was an Engineer in the Army. Whether it was combat engineer or not I do not know. He served in both the European and Pacific theaters.
I do know he spent time in the Philippines at the end of the war and maybe some time after doing clean up work.
Getting Japanese holdouts to surrender.
@@shawnr771 - Er, "convincing them politely" to surrender, I'm sure!!
@@karlmuller3690 one of the men with my grandfather wrote a book about his life.
I do not know the name of it. He describes in a bit of detail about the experience.
For the most part they would put guards on the cave entrances and get already captures Japanese officers to order them out.
On occasions where that did not work. The pumping of gasoline into caves did one way or the other.
@@shawnr771 - Well done ... or just medium
rare?
@@karlmuller3690 My understanding from the excerpt that I read was that most came out when the gas was pumped in, without lighting.
There were a few hardcore ones.
By that point the war was over and these were seen as senseless deaths.
The US Marines had some forward thinking Officers in the 1920s-30s. They did a deep study of the Gallipoli Operation and why it failed. They came up with solutions for all those problems and in WWII conducted many successful Amphibious Operations.
On behalf of my deceased Royal Marine father, 42 Commando , I thank you for this episode 👍🇦🇺
You had me at Marine.
Usa Marine here from 05 to 09
Got you by just a few years (70-74). Semper Fi, brother!
Perfect got an ad about Space Marines while queuing up for an episode on Marines. Lol.
Good job as always though guys and gals.
My 8 great grandfather, Claude Guérin dit Lafontaine, came to the New World in in the 1690s as a soldier in the Compagnies franches de la marine.
elaborate please, where did he land, what was the purpose of their mission? That's very cool, having family so deep of a heritage.
@@Warszawski_Modernizm , His exact date of arrival is not known, but he was a soldier in Pierre Payen de Noyan's company. Pierre arrived in New France in 1687 and received his commission in 1690. Claude's first appearance in records is his marriage to Jeanne Cusson in 1696 where it is stated that he was a soldier in Noyan's company. In the 1690s France and England were embroiled in King William's War aka the Nine Year's War and this began the first of the Intercolonial Wars. Instead of returning to France after the war, he was given a plot of land in La Prairie, Québec for his service and this began a line of Guérins in La Prairie that exists to this day. In 1870, Célestin Guérin, one of Claude's descendants, his wife and two of his sons emigrated to Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. The timing of the emigration was the leading edge of a mass emigration of over 1 million French Canadians to the mill towns of New England over the next few decades.
Semper Fi Indy! I served in the US Marines back in the early 90's. During my time I went to several places that are part of World War II, having been assigned to Marine Barracks Guam and later deploying to Okinawa as part of a unit rotation in the West Pac.
US Army: We’re low on ammo, no food, and someone stole all the toilet paper and cigarettes.
US Marines: *Casually walks by whistling with pockets bugling with Army supplies*
Canned peaches are exquisite
@@marcustulliuscicero.5856 peaches. Your new name is peaches
@@LvoZee05 I like it
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@@ragman2623 All right Snafu. Shit N Ass, Fuck Up
I might be mistaken, but I thought the landings in Europe were all carried out by allied army units. I believe the soviets were the only ones who used marines in Europe in any significant capacity, but that's not saying much since, as noted, soviet marines fought mostly on the front lines.
The royal marines were commandos functionally. I believe they were deployed before the main invasion force to disable and soften up the defences where they could. Similar to the paratroopers.
@@milamber319 true. But that still means that the naval invasions themselves were carried out by army units
Royal marines were special forces, commandos etc. They saw significant action in select missions in Europe including D-day. 5 brigades in fact.
So I suppose it depends on what you count as significant. Did they have significant numbers. No. Did they have significant impact. Absolutely.
For the U.S. at least no marines would be involved directly in the amphibious landings in North Africa or Europe. There simply weren't enough of them for all the amphibious operations of a global multiple front war, so rather early on it was decided to employ them in the Pacific where they'd be of most use.
Given their expertise however some marine officers were involved with the planning of the D-Day landings, and some others were involved in operations behind enemy lines through assignments with the Office of Strategic Services.
Six commandos (Special service battalions) of the Royal Marines were involved in the D-Day landings. Their main role was to hold the flanks of the beachheads until the rest of the lads showed up. This was 75% of the RM commandos. They were also present at the Sicily landings and a number of major river crossings after D-Day. My boss at my first retail job was with the North Shore Regiment and fought next to the Royal Marines on D-Day. He always spoke of them with great respect.
Good topic. But impossible to cover all the history in a short video. My dad was in the Marines in the 30s. I was a Marine during Vietnam. There was a certain attitude that stayed the same all through.
I noted no mention to the Spanish Infanteria de Marina. They are the oldest marine corps in existence today.
Also, the Alhucemas Landing in 1925 during the Morocco War was the first large scale landing using tanks, and was used by Eisenhower as a model for D-Day.
Indy talking about Gallipoli. Great War flash-backs.
I think one of the first and certainly one of the most outstanding historical operations of a waterborn force is The Raid On Chatham. Performed by Dutch Marines under command of Willem Joseph Van Ghent in june 1667. They annihilated the English fleet at harbor. The stern of the captured flag ship Royal Charles is permanently exposed in the Rijksmuseum, where it can be found in the room next to Rembrandts Nightwatch.
One of the greatest aspects of this channel is, despite the overall dark subject matter presented, a considerate and appropriate bit of humor is incorporated into the presentation. This is significant because those who know how and when to laugh will know how and when to cry. Those who know how and when to cry are capable of sympathy, mercy, and prefer peace over war.
Thank you, Sky Den. Wise words indeed
My great uncle is major Gen Ross E Rowell MOH winner USMC retired an was known as the father of air to ground surpport in WW2 ... Look him up he was a great man an our family is still proud of him
@ James Thank you for sharing about him, it's amazing hearing from the families of people involved at the time. I found this quite interesting: "On December 27, 1942, Rowell read a dispatch from Admiral Halsey on Guadalcanal speaking to the negative effects that night time raids from Japanese bombers were having on the ground troops. Based on his earlier travels and observations, Rowell immediately recommended that a night fighter unit be made "available immediately for overseas duty". This message to Marine Headquarters in Washington would be the catalyst for kicking the development of Marine Night Fighters into high gear."
@@WorldWarTwo he was why I went in the USMC an still have family on the uss AZ forward powder mag 1. An the family has fought in every war America has been in .. We came here in 1628 from Wales
. An have a Aussie major Gen in the family to he fought in ww1 an ww2
Thank you.
My father fought with the US Marines in WW2, Korea and Nam.
I have a cousin who was a Captain with the Royal Marines 40 Commando & a friend of mine who was a Major with the US 1st Marine Division. My cousin retired from the Royal Marines in late 2009 after his tour of Afghanistan & my mate in the US 1st Marine Division retired in 2011. Both have served a long time. Both units are a highly specialised commando force.
The US 1st Marine Division southern cross insignia was inspired by the the Victorian state flag after the Guadalcanal Campaign. Their march song is Waltzing Matilda written by Banjo Paterson which is also Australia's unofficial national anthem. My mate, when he & his mates came out to Australia were always awed by the esteem of 1st MARDIV history held by Australians as they are adopted sons.
40 Commando has a huge history, Dieppe, Anzio, Malayan Emergency, Falklands, Iraq & Afghanistan. US playwright & poet Epes Sargent wrote A Life on the Ocean Wave which Royal Marines adopted for their march.
A motivational Rah from an active duty US Marine overseas getting to hear the history of his own branch and fellow marines abroad. Awesome to see this
Smashing job on this episode again.
Japanese Marines were also on Peleliu, where they faced off against the US Marines in one of the most ruthless battles of WWII. Marines vs Marines.
Don't forget the Italian San Marco Marines or the French naval infantry battalions that fought just recently at Bir Hakeim.
As the Royal Marines used to say, "We're here to stop the officers and men from eating each other"!! On a ship of the line the marine barracks were located between the officer's flats and the men's mess decks.
When will you guys start making specials about uniforms from all of the different countries that were in WW2?
there are other channels dedicated to that
@@ChenAnPin I want TG to do it.
@@ChenAnPin The Great War covered uniforms, weapons, units etc, I imagine many people expect this channel to do the same
Hopefully Indy will do a video about the UDT's, the Navy's Underwater Demolitions Teams, the precursor of the famous Seals.
Thanks for these specials.
“do we have socks? I don’t know. Head to knee!”
I appreciate the odd, nerdy, high production, informative randomness of this channel.
@Jeffrey Rook We appreciate our wonderful, engaged audience!
Venetian "Fanti da mar" should've get a mention.
New Fanta flavor? :D
@@Paciat Italian marines
in 1618 was created the " Terco da Armada da Coroa de Portugal " , " Corpo de Fusileiros "the first permanent military unit ,considered to be an specialized elite of Naval infantry...
Did you guys forgot the "Raid on the Medway"? That is the first time a specialized Marine force became world famous for doing something never done like that before. At the time it was considered world shocking and I believe it shaped Marine forces more than the 2nd World War did, as most Marine forces where already established before WW2.
edit: This video is like talking about the atomic bombs, and not mentioning the first two used in WW2 (and the first 2 might have highlighted the importance of them quite a bit).
Its fine, From Medway to Waterloo, the Dutch always get forgotten about.
I haven't forgotten about Medway. I wrote about that once.
As a Dutchman I would have loved to hear it mentioned but in their defence, the focus of the channel lies on WW2. They only went over the age of sail period briefly to establish a rough idea for the viewer of what marines did before the 20th century. So it's probably not so much a case of forgetting about the Raid on the Medway but rather an issue of fitting a more specific event like the raid into the video, timewise.
@@DarkMessiah33 I do understand their focus on WW2. But Amphibious assaults where something that only became a thing when the Raid on the Medway happened, it is an historic significant event as it changed peoples perspective. And the fact it happened against the most powerful nation on earth at that time made it something that resounded worldwide. It's not something "marines did before the 20th Century", Marines changed after the the Raid on the Medway, not after WW2, or 20th Century.
Before the Raid on the medway there where no opposed landings. Navies fought and after they won and the sea was safe they landed troops that could advance with support (even the Vikings only made unopposed landings). That all changed after the second Anglo-Dutch war.
I guess I'm just sad that even this channel only caters to "make it a good story and ignore facts". So many people now grow up with history only being told by one biased source, it's like the last samurai movie, where an American becomes the last true samurai.
@@johnb4689 “‘make a good story and ignore the facts’” pretty baseless claim. I don’t know if it is national pride for you, but to say they do that because of what is most likely an oversight is dramatic. I think it could be worth mentioning in the video, but I don’t think it is extremely necessary to include especially as you mentioned in your own comment it is a WW2 channel. I think the context they gave was sufficient.
Can't wait to see what they do on D-Day :)
They are about to land Saipan.
There actually were marines at Normandy @Lycaon Pictus while they were under navy command some marines were sent to the fighting tops of the ships aka the crows nest. They were used to snipe german naval mines exploding them so ships could pass. Also a marine photographer as well as well as a LT correspondent. Many of the ships on d day had marine compliments however just like sailors they were compliments to the ship meaning that they had duties on the ship and wernt suited for the actual land invasion. Its not well known but the us marines were in fact at the Normandy invasions and played a similar role to the one they played in the 18 and 19th centuries naval warfare.
Could you do a vid on cavalry during the Second World War? They were critical, especially on the eastern front, but are rarely spoken of in depth, seen as anachronistic hold overs
A German soldier whose unit was attacked by Soviet cavalry in 1941 noted in his journal that two men next to him had been killed with sabres "eighty years after Sadowa", a Prussian defeat of Austria in the 19th century. He had thought until then that cavalry were hopelessly outdated.
That will probably pop up when the Calvary Mechanized Corps show up?
Yeah. I'm curious about this as well. The Russians had Cavalry and Guards Cav formations throughout the war. Were they a real asset or fairly ineffective as they were in the Great War? I know the Nazis had at least two Cav corps in WW2, one regular army the other SS. Were these modern mechanized cav or horse cav?
@@nicolasheung441 Hope so.
@Andy Reznick If I recall correctly, the Nazi Heer calvary division was later reformed as a panzer division after France, (24th), and destroyed in Stalingrad.
And according to David Glanz and Jonathan House in "when the titans clashed", and the documentary Soviet storm, Soviet calvary mostly acted as mobile infantry after several costly and ineffective calvary charges early in the war. Starting with the battle of Moscow, calvary units will fought dismounted, whereas the horses provide them mobility during deployment amidst the snow. Soviet calvary units later formed into Calvary Mechanized Corps, mixed tank/calvary, and Mechanized units that can travel very quickly across difficult terrain. They probably seen action before operation Bagration, like in operation Uranus and counterattacks around Kursk, but Bagration is the one operation that I am sure they were used to wreck absolute havoc. They would stay in the fight up till Manchuria in 1945, after that, not sure.
Sorry, in peacetime, which was most of the time way back when sails were popular, (Royal) Marines on warships at sea mainly functioned as VIP bodyguards/ enforcers for the ship's officers. Captains could, of course, expand or contract their given assignments depending on his evaluation of their abilities ... or lack thereof.
Thanks for this interesting video. One of my grandfathers served as one of the first Royal Marine Commandos in WW2. He never spoke about his time in the war, and we only discovered the details of his service record after both he and my grandmother passed away.
"What's this?! This incredible free history video is not exhaustive down to the last country, branch, weapon, uniform and man! And especially not the one _my_ family was involved with! By God, to comments I go to give them a piece of my mind!"
A piece of trivia here: the oldest existing marine corps in the world is the Spanish Infantería de Marina, created in 1537
What about Cortez's men who attacked Mexico City by water and defeated the Aztecs? Was that just a special Conquistador/Marine unit. (All helped along a great deal by native tribes of course.)
@@douglasturner6153 From what I know those soldiers were more like ad hoc units specially created for that siege and then disolved. The Infantería de Marina is a regular formation which has remained active ever since its creation
Thanks Chamel. That's a lot of good research. Look's like it was a derogatory term for non Spanish. Even against crude Spaniard's. Of couse the non Spanish also had their own derogatory terms for the Spanish.
superb just really excellent Robert
What an awesome service these videos are for the public. Thank you!
You're welcome!
5:07 "They also needed to possess competent technical knowledge and know arithmetic, algebra, and trigonometry." Oh how the times have changed!
i bet it has not.
I would bet today's Marines in which ever military are highly trained, and skilled in ways that the Marines of yesteryear would think was voodoo and magic.
Drones, Electronic warfare and communications, advances in night vision, close air support, artillery and weapons and tactics.
All that being said the ones from yesteryear would recognize another Marine.
I am not a Marine and I have the utmost respect for those that wear that uniform. They do not pass them out at the candy store.
Not really...the US Marines have the highest educational standards on the DOD for enlisted.
The most and largest American amphibious operations in WW2 were with US Army troops in Europe. The USMC was deployed to the Pacific.
"Per Mare, Per Terram"
Semper Fidelis
Pre 1914 Royal Marines had a vital role as bandsmen to entertain the Admiral's guests on battleships. There wartime role was to man the gun turrets.
Royal Marines also traditionally manned a main armament gun turret in capital ships. Good healthy competition within the RN regarding speed of loading etc
US Marines also had that tradition. The #2 turret of the USS Texas was Marine-manned during the shore bombardment and close support phases of the Normandy landings.
@@HootOwl513 yes thank you. Many people don't know that the us marines were at Normandy they just didn't participate on the land. They were in the fighting tops (crows nest) sniping german naval mines as well as the anti aircraft guns and some others as well. The u.s navy had many ships designed for marine compliments to assist them. These marine compliments didnt magically dissappear from the Atlantic fleet just because most of the marines were needed in the pacific.
@@jacobjones4766 While the trend was to pull more Marines from FMF LANT* and transfer them to FMF PAC, some ships retained a Marine Detachment. Some captains and admirals insisted on keeping their honor guard.
[*Fleet Marine Force, Atlantic, Pacific -- not sure if that acromyn was in use in the Early 1940s, but it's handy.]
I saw in another You Tube presentation about the Texas [BB-35] and her role in the Omaha landing, that someone at the time, suggested sending her Marine detachment ashore to help the Rangers at Pointe du Hoc. The US Army was dead against it. And it would not have been a good idea anyway. While all Marines are infantry-trained in Boot Camp and right after, the MarDet of BB-35, did not have full 782 [infantry] Gear issue aboard, and had not been training for vertical cliff assault like the Rangers had. Also interservice rivalry -- maybe not as severe as the Japanese Army/Navy Game -- but still an issue, was a factor. Best reason was that Turret Two was cracking Kraut pillboxes with 14'' rounds at close range in a workmanlike manner, but with a vengence... Taking them off that task would've been a tactical blunder.
@@HootOwl513 cool info 😎
@@jacobjones4766 Semper Fi
Alright time to takes notes thank you mate now I could tell my teacher for my quiz
Semper Fi! from a Marine Corps Dad.
The 8th Air Force lost more men than the U.S. Marines in all of WW2 - fact . As my Uncle said, the Marines had a better PR department .
Yeah Sipain, Pelilu, Iwo Jima, Okinawa yeah those are all just such Cakewalks. The Marines PR department just pumping up how tough they were, but boy did those poor fly boys have it rough going back to safety after each mission getting good food and hot showers.
@@Immoralsalvage Add still the 8th air Force lost more men . They must have had a cake walk . With the odds of next to Zero of living to finish your mission
@@exmarine268 With out control of the AIR no Army in the last 100 years have won a War . Oh I am X-Army
@@Schaneification Ok fly boy The Marines have twice the casualties of the 8th Air force which had 40,000 killed Marines had 20,000 killed and 60,000 wounded.
@@exmarine268 I have to disagree with your last sentence there. The strategic bombing campaign against Germany slowed down their equipment production, hampered their fuel production, and delayed their transportation networks. The loss of life is disturbing of course, but if you wage total war you have to be willing to put your country's civilians on the line too. By slowing down the enemy's production you buy time for your own production to catch up, and then surpass the enemy's production. And logistics is what won the war for the Allies.
Not a single mention about the French Marsouins? You spoiled my day Indy...
dominated
And no German marines either.
Semper Fi (Always Faithful), Marines!
If you have a friend tried and true...
Jalesu Bhumyamca Jayamahe
("Glorious on the Land and Sea", Indonesian marines)
The few the proud!
You know, it's kinda sad that despite less famous than their britain or american peers, soviet marines actually saw the heaviest fighting among the allies from 1941 until 1942, from landing against German in the north, sea raids against Germany, heavy fighting in siege of odessa, the long siege of Sevastopol, kerch landing, even in stalingrad truely unfortunate, their stories should have been more popular
They had to know trigonometry, to be a marine. No wonder I became a cook. I can measure out ingredients. That's the sum total of my math skills...
Most of trigonometry that they use is using values from trigonometry tables.
Death From Within
I can just about remember sin cos tan but not much else
They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give themselves to me. Like clay I shall mold them and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armor shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines such that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear.
--The Emperor of Mankind.
11:45 Rising Storm flashbacks
Great episode, Semper Fi Marines!
Another great episode 🤘
Thanks for another great video!
Dear TG team, I respectfully demand WW2 socks. Much love
9:19 'The Devil Dogs'.... that'd make a good song
A quibble: The Japanese port-city of Yokosuka is pronounced Ya-kus-ka.
No idea why, but I suspect it's much like the pronunciation of English towns like Worchester (Wooster) or Gloucester (Glawster).
I spent many a day and night on the streets of that splendid city. Good times...................................
Great episode! A technical question: When did US Marines start eating crayons?
Marine Corps Birthday is November 10, 1775. There’s your answer. -Rah
@@The_Professor_ yut!
Three peaces of history for you US Marines! 1. two Marines in the British Navy who were Americans jumped ship went to fight for the American revolution they still called themselves Marines! They were the very first US Marines.....
2. World War I a us Marine took three German officers and one the congregation medal of Honor! He went the wrong way and sort of disobey orders as well!
Carlson's Raider's kept the Marines and Army supplied by raiding Japanese supply lines! Hitting ammo and food dump's and the Japanese had a price on there heads!!! And also saying that they were recruited from jails and insane assylumes for blood lust!
Keep it up guys it was a good episode!
Loved this episode. Great job crew!
Whoa, isn't he the Sabaton history guy? Didn't know he has his own channel. Subbing!
28th of October 1664 during the riegn of king Charles the 2nd of England the Duke of Albanys Maratime regiment of foot was formed 357 years later they are known as the Royal Marines with an added role of commandos since ww2. They have fought all over the globe.
Per mare Per Terram
By sea By land.
Hey Indy you guys got the devils brigade video planed? I be love they deserve there own episode.
On the subject of screwed up landings (3m40s in) of troops the then Major George S Patton wrote a paper for the USA Army staff college about what a screw up the Gallipoli landings & battles were.
Minor Seas weren't the that much of dividers in the olden days - land were cumbersome to cross before the invention of the rail. The Roman empire were on the shores of the Mediterranean, the Spanish, Portuguese and British around the Atlantic first and then the globe...
Hey Indy are there any episodes dealing w the Leibstandarte SS and Bruno Gesche's battles w Heinrich Himmler over his Alcoholism even at one point making Him sign an Abstain Pact⁉️
The office looks so good
It amused me how the Romans at first, competent in land warfare but inept in naval matters, turned the problem around by making a naval battle into a land one.
[Roman Boarding Action]
Carthage: "Wait, that's illegal!"
Rome: "I will make it legal."
„Hey guys why dont we just build a brigde from our ship to theirs?“
„Severus, youre a genius!!“
Thank you!
Just to correct something, the earliest versions of Marines comes from the Ramses era when he was dealing with the sea people.
He had to trian Marines, sailers/soldiers, to do amphibious landings from river bank to river bank along the Nile.
I also read somewhere that some Marines went on amphibious raids. This is probably phoenician mercenaries. The new kingdom was famous for highering Lybians for policing and phoenician for sailers
I read a book by an ex-Black Beret, or Soviet naval scouts. They essentially functioned the same way as commandos driving into German/Finnish waters in the Far North. Raiding outposts and capturing or killing officers. Later on they were deployed against Japan in Manchuria and Korea.
The book was called “Face to Face” by Leonov, he was a naval scout
Good video.
The Royal Marines have the best military band in existence.
The Royal Marines were established on the 28th October 1664 as "The Duke of York and Albany's maritime regiment of foot" and only became "The Royal Marines" in 1802.
Great video, although I'm a bit disappointed that there is not a word about the French Fusilliers Marins
Indie and crew, i'm sad you forget about one of the oldest marine corp in Europe , the french Troupes de Marines, though they were called Troupes Coloniales (colonial troops) at that time.
They were established during Louis XIII reign by the Cardinal Richelieu to be support troops to the Navy and guarding navy facilities all around the kingdom and its colonies.
They distinguished themselves during the franco prussian war of 1870 by resisting to the last bullet (see Baseille battle picture), during the first world war and they were the basis of the first free french troops in french african colonies in Tchad under colonel Leclerc command.
Basic summery but still i think you should have mentionned them.
The english, dutch and French claim the oldest title. But the Spanish marines were first created in the 1570s a century before the French and English counterparts. If you just consider all historical naval infantry marines its hard to say who was first, as both the ancient romans and ancients Greeks had marines
@@jacobjones4766 the first marine units(fanti da mar) were created by venice during the 4th crusade and were used throughout the maritme republic history notable mentions are siege of Candia and war of morea and other engagements
@@macknut2033 just adding shit onto the list. Congrats its one of the 10,000 organizations that claim the first title, that was my whole fucking point.
Not many US marines in Europe all US landings were army. In Pacific half of landings were army. Marines are light infantry (riflemen) with mostly naval artillery as support. Hawaii was primarily defended on land by 2 army divisions, with army coast artillery no marines except fleet base force.
"On Sunday, 7 December 1941, there were approximately 4,500 Marines stationed at Pearl Harbor and its vicinity. Ashore, in addition to Marine Aircraft Group 21 (MAG-21) at Ewa and the Marine Barracks, there were a variety of Marine units: 2d Engineer Battalion, 2d Service Battalion, 1st Defense Battalion (rear echelon), 3d Defense Battalion, 4th Defense Battalion, and a token element from the 6th Defense Battalion."
"Over 800 officers and enlisted Marines were serving aboard ships at Pearl Harbor at the time of the Japanese attack. There were Marine ships’ detachments aboard the USS Arizona, California, Helena, Honolulu, Maryland, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia."
www.usmcu.edu/Research/Marine-Corps-History-Division/Brief-Histories/Marines-in-World-War-II/US-Marines-at-Pearl-Harbor-7-December-1941/
while they were under navy command some marines were sent to the fighting tops of the ships aka the crows nest. They were used to snipe german naval mines exploding them so ships could pass. Also a marine photographer as well as well as a LT correspondent did actually land on the beaches.. Many of the ships on d day had marine compliments however just like sailors they were compliments to the ship meaning that they had duties on the ship and weren't suited for the actual land invasion. Its not well known but the us marines were in fact at the Normandy invasions and played a similar role to the one they played in the 18 and 19th centuries naval warfare. They also manned anti air cannons and some main guns as well. U could say their navy half was showing much more than their infantry half during the Normandy invasions.
My father was aboard an aircraft carrier and he said they called them seasoning bell hops.