I would like to thank our Mexican cousins who helped liberate our islands here in the Philippines. Muchas gracias mis amigos! Thank you for telling their story, THG.
George McKenna - just wish they would get on board today. We need their help but because we are getting out of a lop sided trade agreement, costing America Millions if not Billions of dollars in lost income, they have no interest to help secure their boarder. Entering the country illegally only invites drug smugglers and criminals, amongst all the descent people, who they pray on often. I am so glad President Trump is helping Mexico get their act together. I have over 2 handfuls of friends of Latin Decent whom served time in the military, rather pissed the “illegals” get away with it. Hmm, true AMERICANS.
I have family on the Texas coast, whenever there's a hurricane or flood, at least a couple dozen Mexican Marines and/or Mexican Navy personnel show up to help... wonderful people. I once talked to a trucker from Mexico City who drove all the way to San Antonio, on his own money, just to deliver a bell to a church. He saw that they needed a new bell online, a church in Mexico City donated one, and he just climbed in his truck... All for people he didn't even know. That's Mexico for you. Thanks History Guy!
Henry Rodgers así somos, es nuestra cultura, puedes preguntárselo a cualquier otro país, lo malo es que siempre nos ven como “inmigrantes” que lejos de buscar el daño buscamos oportunidades que acá no tenemos
After Katrina hit the US (and with US permission), the Mexican Army sent troops across the border to Houston to aid in the relief efforts. The Mexican Army has since come to our aid other times since. ¡Gracias México!
No one informs this, we knew about the first time the Mexican army went to help, but no one told this was not the first and last one. Thanks for sharing.
I would like to thank the Mexican fighter squadron 201 of their combat actions over the Philippine Islands. Their bravery MUST be remembered, along side the American Armed Forces that Liberated the land of my birth. Muchas gracias mis amigos! Fil-Am.
@@toga1022 Oh so you're one of THOSE people. Gatekeeping who to thank based on "their contribution." Nasty attitude. Many countries participated in the Allied effort, they should all be thanked regardless of how big or small the contribution was.
Back in 2007 when I visited the US Air Force museum at Wright-Patt Air Force Base, there was a small display about 201st Aztec Eagles Fighter Squadron.
@@John77Doe Wright Patterson Air Force Base is where the famous "Hanger 18" is located. I grew up not far from there, in Springfield, back in the 70s and 80s, and everybody always wondered if Aliens, or their spaceship, were really out there.
@@John77Doe Wright-Patt is home to the National Museum Of the USAF. located just east of dayton,ohio. W-P is divided into 3 separate areas,A,B,C.. W-P has the largest medical center of any USAF Air Base. The wright brothers flew their gliders less than 1 mile away from where the museum is located. the Museum is Ohio's largest free attraction. also the worlds oldest and largest aviation museum. if you plan a trip there, you should plan 2-3 days to see it all.
And then you Pay us kicking all our boxers asses for years and years Whit the fucking Manny paquiado. 😂 Or how we call him the mango pateado 😂 that guy Wass so great that we forget nationality in his fights. So great guy and kind person too.
My dad enlisted in the Mexican Army in June 1st 1944 and he often talked about the Aztec Eagles whenever we managed to get my old man to share some histories from his years in the service. He died as a 1st Captain and was also a doctor in the service
True Ambitionz 1st Captain. I used to shine the brass bars so I know. After the war the Mexican Army dismissed many of the grunts who were no longer needed but gave them an option for those who wanted to stay by enrolling in schools like crazy, he made NCO first obviously and then went to an Army College by the name of CAPOA (Centro de Adiestramiento Para Oficiales de la Armada) I believe that’s what it means but that school now operates under a different name. He graduated from that college as a 1st Lt and then pursue Medicine. He retired after 34 years of service.
David , I think you kind of missed the BIG Over-all picture , and E$pecially like it Still Very Much Continues Today : Materials = parts & all The Manufacturing Machinery + The Mechanical Education of , and Jobs . . = The Big Financial Picture - Largely provided $ from All Of N. A . Cheers to Mexico's A.F. for joining in - to also Protect their own Country in the Big Picture . Becuz ' Adolf & Antonio ' wouldn't have stopped at just N. A . Mexico's actions as to the U-boats sinking their war neutral oil freighters - Sounds 500% Right to Me !!! " Mucho Tequila and Cerveza all around to those Men " I also would have never Guessed that Mexico would even have an A.F. back in the 30's and 40's . I've actually never Seen On Here - or even Heard Of a Mexican or Brazil A.F. today or in their past past . . Kind of strange with me owning so many Canadian and USA WW2 dvds now . . ?? As I grow older , I can't seem to learn enough about it ! " I got some Mucho New Google - YT Searching to do now and in the future "
Unfortunately they went rom honorable people to . Selling drugs . And a corrupt government that doesn't give 3 shits about the amount of violence and sheer grotesque way the cartels kill each othe and people who dont join in. Yup a far cry from what they are and what Mexico is . Is not even safe to visit .just as bad as a war zone no go Zone.
albert speer albert speer Wtf are u talking about??? Selling drugs yes to the US because the high demand, you’ve ever seen those crackheads on living on streets and even rich ppl because they need their blow 😂 honestly the US has big problems too like kids shooting up schools, mass shootings, and gang violence notably in poor city’s like chiraq, south central LA, Detroi ect.. I’ve been to Mexico many many times and worst things that’s happened to me is getting fucked over by those tourist scams
Don't tread on me dude I love the USA 🇺🇸 to have a lot of respect for you guys just respect the Mexicans man you might need them in a future war 😃 have a good day
@@mopar21 Brave men willing to die for their home and people. Meanwhile you cowards are killing civilians you bastards are nothing more than Isis in camouflage.
It is with due regret to inform you, that the last pilot which integrated the Mexican 201st Expeditionary Air Force Squadron, Colonel Carlos Garduño, has passed away on the 3rd of February 2022, of old age at 102. He, and his squadron shall be remembered for their effort, and contribution to fight for freedom and liberty. May he rest in peace. 🇲🇽 - 🇺🇸 - 🇵🇭
@@noelaguirrechavez4462 agreed, when i was in middle school they actually did mention mexicos part in the war, although it was only once and unspecific
Asi es, he visto que in suburbio de Cd Mexico se llama Escuadron 201...el 201 todavia existe, y he visto que se le considera el Escuadron de Elite de la FAM!!!
This is a great piece of history. I found out about these Mexican fighters when I visited a war ship in San Diego, the Navy had a plaque honoring the Aztec Eagles..
Robert, sadly (and luckily) those men of the 201 are more recognized by the US armed forces than from the Mexican government. Until very recently they have received public honors and recognition, all which have come too late as this fine gentlemen are fading away. The Mexican government has always been wary of our military being too public.
@@arq.josecompean5860 That's non-sense!! Just bc you didn't know doesn't mean it didn't happen. I have known for years and have seen many commemorations. It is the US that tries to suppress any knowledge of this History. and only in recent years the surviving members of the 201st have been making LIVE presentations at the different Air Shows throughout the U.S. This is clear, as we can see how many people are saying, here; They never heard of this before.............................
@@jesscast5122 Nah bro the Cartels care more about covering themselves than honoring heros. Mexican Government is corrupt. In no way will it recover without detoxing the entirety of the Mexican Government.
I am a proud nephew of General Graco Ramirez, pilot of the Squadron 201 I remember him as a hero. , My wife and children also met him. Very proud of him, indeed. Eduardo Ramírez
I am 100% mexican, and my mother worked all her life in the US and is now a US Citizen. I would not hesitate to pick up a rifle and fight for either of the flags: US or Mexico. Thank you for this history lesson and God bless both of our countries.
I'm from Monterrey, México. I live just 2 blocks near a park with an amazing Memorial of 201 Squadron. Have the names of each pilot, a short story of them and an almost real size airplane. Great video, saludos compadre.
A lot of Filipinos like me didn't even know that Mexico helped to liberate our country from Japan. This should be taught in our schools. Saludos Mehiko! Saludos hermanos!🇵🇭🇲🇽
@@P71ScrewHead saludos , y siempre con la frente para adelante no importa lo que pase..piche mundo nos mira mal y nos quiere pisotear y extinguir de el planeta pero aquí seguimos y seguiremos... día a día cambiar la corrupción que hay en nuestra raza y se los aseguro que tenemos lo suficiente para ser la próxima potencia mundial ...
@@gog7790 Asi es, y gracias a AMLO estamos terminando con la corrupcion en Mexico, y no permitiendo ke paises sakeadores regresen a robar.. AMLO esta garantizando la indepenencia Mexicana e invirtiendo en nuestras fuerzas militares, aereas, y marina..
234 Million years as the Monarch of the United Kingdom and I have never heard this before. Meh video. Let's talk about why gravity and titties don't mix next. sad!
Don’t worry… you are in the AF to learn to fly and everything around it, train as a soldier, so many other things… not entirely history lol To be honest I am one of the few Mexicans who knows history, including this passage… and even that I was nicely surprised by some of the facts spoken here. Mexico and American should be more than hated neighbors… brothers and partners seem more appropriate… even the language barrier should be an strength for both, not a barrier. That will be the day… and President Trump is doing well, more than well… please avoid Biden, Warren or worse Sanders (Venezuela? Hello?) Cheers!
C-ren The Mexican Constitution forbids any involvement outside our territory… only this Escuadrón 201… and perhaps Pancho Villa, but who knows as history was been twisted almost as badly as the Alamo (**), and the non aggression incursión of the Mexican Army to give support to the victims of Hurricane Katrina in both food and cuisine (victims had enough McDonald’s after a week, they all cheered the Mexican flag) It took 18 to 20 months for the two Mexican congress chambers (Diputados and Senadores) to approve a breaking of constitutional rules and laws back then… (**) El Álamo Sure, Santana this or that… boo Santana!!! Sure sure But nobody in documentaries and much less Hollywood movies speak about the slaves… yeah! Texan land owners (under Mexican rule) had thousands or more slaves to work the fields, against Mexican laws and the constitution which states those slave were free by being in a territory of Mexico. Santana’s troops actually free several dozen slaves who were locked and chained outside the Alamo fort, living in horrible conditions. Stories say Mexican soldiers were … I can’t tell as this situation is probably myth but the solders were horrified at what monsters under Austin were. But Mexicans and Santana were the bad guys… when they attack a sedition uprising fortified in El Álamo I guess today Intersectional nonsense is payment for that and so many other things… NO! Nobody living now should pay, not our fault… America is the greatest country in the world… I hope my México can at least approach its northern neighbor a little. Cheers
Mexico 1940's: Largest supplier of war materials to the U.S. Mexico 2019: Surpasses China as the U.S.'s largest trading partner. Some things never change.
Youd think we'd be sending billions of dollars in aid to Mexico since they're literally our neighbor and we share a lot of the same problems. Just redirect the aid we already give to israel
That Airman stepping forward and asking the Mexican President that a school be built in his hometown and the President keeping his word and building that school showed us the men of those times were men of honor asking for a school that still stands today was their testament of honor.
@@TheLastCustomer What are the chances?? The priest who married me and my wife many years was a missionary priest stationed in Morelos. Padre Rickertt, he was born in Ireland. My Dad was an aviator, shot down over Europe. I still visit Mexico frequently. Someday, perhaps, I can visit. You can see his story on youtube; "Tail-end Charlie " B-24 loss. Thank you. Are you Mexican or American?
To find that video: type "B 24 liberator tail end charlie". My thanks to the Dutch underground for saving Dad is at 29:36. A School: entirely selfless. I've finished 40 years as a teacher.
My dad old me how he saw them fly over El Paso, if I'm remembering correctly, on the way back from the Pacific. I got a feeling that maybe they stopped in San Antonio at one of the many u.s. Air Force bases there before heading south.
Not surprising to me at all. For anyone who knows anything about P-47's or even WWII fighters or even WWII. Should know about the "AZTEC EAGLES". Excellent Group
@@EastLosAngeles1964classic There is one is publication , 201st Squadron "Aztec Eagles" ISBN 978-0997085884 and another to be published soon AZTEC EAGLES, which should be available soon, pre-order I have seen is available {Amazon} Good Luck
The P47D was a fine aircraft. Some US pilots preferred them over P51s. This video is "Must See" viewing for people who don't understand Mexican and US cooperation benefits both nations immensely.
For you, admirers of the "Jug" P-47, this is for you: Did you know that a couple of Mexican pilots from Mexico's 201 Squadron devised a different type of Inclined Dive-Bombing using the Republic P47D that was never intended to be executed because it lacked Dive-Brakes, and that the American commanders just allowed them to execute that tactic after the pleading insistence from the Mexicans, and that they achieved good results in spite of heavy and concentrated AA fire from the Japanese? That tactic was explained by one of the last survivors during an extended interview aired some five years ago, Try to search for it, even when it is in Spanish, as his description is full of vivid details!
For a plane that could hit nearly 600 mph in a steep dive I'd say it was the F-15 of its time. It also had a turbo-supercharger which gave it a service ceiling slightly higher than the P-51, which only had a supercharger. It was also capable of surviving damage that would have taken the '51 out of the sky. I'd love to see a flight worthy example painted in 201st livery. Some day.
@Rusty We Mexicans are good here in Mexico,it's the central Americans who you guys confuse as Mexicans who are going to the U.S. your U.S media has you guys brainwashed.
@Will Barett no one hates America we hate that you guys fail too look at the truth and blame other countries for your own fuck ups. The drug cartel began since the 1800 and USA was the reason for that they needed heroin and at the time Chinese immigrants had been going to Mexico so USA started paying local people to bring that through. Ad than they found Iraq and Afghanistan so they left Mexico to clean up their mess.... Look it up how did drug trafficking began in Mexico.... Thanks to USA but you will never look for the truth you are very sheep like brainwashed. I know the truth I decided to look into the truth and you can't hide that. It's not USA we hate it's the ignorance that y'all have that we hate. You blame Mexico for USAs mess... Very ignorant
I am very proud to say that my uncle, Jesus Tapia Estrada, was a pilot in squadron 201 of the Mexican Expeditionary Air Force and a member of the Aztec Eagles.
jed-henry Witkowski as to your ex-coworker. full of shit. to make that case clear. worldpopulationreview.com/countries/democratic-socialist-countries/ { but. will say from my opinion } why make up a so call ex-coworker. when it's actually you fabricating a Pinocchio lie. your just a radical white racist trump supporter.
Mexico and Brazil both contributed air squadrons to the Allies during WWII. Colombia and the Dominican Republic contributed air assets based in Panama to help defend the Canal.
@@John77Doe The 1st Fighter Group of the Brazilian Air Force was deployed to Italy in September, 1944, flying 445 fighter-bomber missions from November 1944 to May, 1945. They flew the same types of P-47s as the Mexican Air Force. The Air Force also flew constant patrols from the long Brazilian coastline, assisting in the sinking of one U-boat and rescuing thousands of survivors of sinkings off the coast.
@@kevinmarsh5101 Correct. The Brazilian Army supplied a full division of about 16,000 troops. They were involved in some of the hardest fighting on the Italian front, including Monte Casino. It was the largest non-Commonwealth, non-European contribution to the war other than the United States.
Quote from wikipedia: "The 201st Mexican Squadron was given credit for putting out of action about 30,000 Japanese troops and the destruction of enemy held-buildings, vehicles, tanks, anti-aircraft guns, machine guns emplacements and ammunition depots." wow...
Subltnt Ángel Bocanegra del Castillo was his name. He said..."Mr President, I'll ask you for a school in Tepoztlán, my hometown. If you allow me, I'll gladly repay it with my blood..."
Muchas gracias. I looked up the young officer and was glad to hear that he was a teacher as well as a soldier. And wow, what an interesting family name. It always makes me wonder what odd historical event these old Spanish names come from.
Thank you History guy for sharing this little known history to the world. I am from the Philippines and we, the Filipino people appreciate what our mexican brothers has done for the war. They fought over the Philippine skies to liberate us from the oppressors. A friend of mine told me of her grand father's story. During world war 2, her grand father was just a boy. He witnessed a dogfight between a Japanese fighter ( probably a zero ) and a thunderbolt. He climbed over a tree to watch the fight and cheered for the allied plane but he fell and broke a bone but stood up again and still cheered. We will never know but that thunderbolt might just have been one of the Mexican 201st. What the Mexicans did for us during the war might be little known but I do remember a mention of this in our history class in High school. Thank you again History Guy! Can you do a video about the battle of Manila, the battle of Corregidor, and that one time some Cebuano Fishermen captured a vital intel from a crashed japanese plane? Thanks!!!
The P-47 would not have been from the 201st, as they never engaged enemy fighters. That part of the war was virtually over by the time they deployed. Their service was mostly in a close air support role. I do plan more episodes on the Philippines campaign, yes. In the mean time, please enjoy these episodes: ua-cam.com/video/TZD59vApUWc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/eqkTddTNMBY/v-deo.html
Robert Tinsley Yes, and if I remember correctly it was almost equal to the number of shit birds who hid out in Canada until the biggest shit bird of all Jimmy Carter pardoned them and never acknowledged the Hero's from Canada who served under our Flag.
@@rpm12091As a Canadian, I can't agree with you. Though they should have done jail time as many did, dying for a deeply unjust war or 'patriotism' is basically never the right choice. Many of those draft dodgers have led productive healthy lives here, unlike several draft-dodging US presidents. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel after all.
Many years ago, when I was a young man, I had a job as a salesman in a gun shop in Mexico City. Well, one day one of our customers told us that he had been part of the "Escuadrón 201" and told us all about his deployment to the Pacific theater. He included the fact that he had been captured and was a prisoner of war of the Japanese. In addition, he said that the commander of the Japanese prison camp was a woman and that somehow she found him attractive. She would send him additional food at the end of the day and asked for sexual favors in exchange. One day, he said, the Japanese disappeared and the group of prisoners found themselves free and later were rescued. He returned to his unit and eventually to Mexico. Many of my friends had never heard of the Mexican participation in the war; however, it is included in the Encyclopaedia of World War II published in England. I will send your presentation to my friends. Thanks for sharing this and best you, as always.
I'm afraid such a story is very unlikely, not to mention its latin lover content. I think no 201 squadron personnel turned to be a POW. The only chance would be a downed pilot, but the only one missing was declared dead. Nevertheless, it shows the relevance of this military commitment in many minds from that generation (including those just seeking some attention). As far as I know, actual 201 squadron veterans hold a very 'elite' reverence within the mexican military. Allow me to share that -for many years- most tin toy helmets in Mexico were sold with a frontal stamp: 201. Greetings.
So that is just a bunch of lies, no 201 was POW's, there is no way in high hell that a Japanese woman was allowed to run a POW camp, and when the Japanese abandoned POW camps, they shot all the POW's or took them with, they never left them behind.
@@commissargarudaslivestream5177 Japanese army committed many atrocities toward POWs. However and commonly, most POWs camps in occupied countries were abandoned only after Japan's surrender. In most cases, POWs were simply left, not transferred or even handed out to the allied forces. POWs in Japanese territory were kept 'safe' and delivered afterwards. Of course, this does not exclude some possible isolated war crimes I have not heard of.
I just gotta say I LOVE your vids! And I am really glad to see the recognition of the contribution of the Mexican military be acknowledged in this way. Maybe you could do one on their rescue efforts during Katrina? I'm British/Canadian by birth, but grew up in the States. It saddens me that racism and ignorance so grossly undervalues our patient ally to the south. I work and hope that this will change one day, because both nations can benefit from a relationship that is more like what we have with Canada. Till that time, I tip my hat to the noble, talented country to the south and with Mexico all the success it deserves!
What a nice feeling reading your post! I've been only two times in Canada, one at Calgary back in sept 1997 and on vacation at Montreal/Ottawa/Quebec/Niagara/Toronto in 2007. Canadian people treated me as if I was a member of their family in Calgary, and nicely at the East cities. At Ottawa I was fortunate enough to go to the Battle of Britain commemoration on Sept. 15, 2007 at the excellent Canada Air and Space Museum at Rockcliffe airport in Ottawa-Gatineau, with an impressive Fly-By and a very solemn ceremony. I hope to be able to visit your country again, and wish you the best. When at Calgary in 1997, I was received by the family of a young Canadian engineer, and they treated me as if I were another son, and during a weekend the mother of that family took me to the mountains around Lake-Louise, Banff and nearby places of extraordinary beauty, but what was even more impressive, was the absolutely gorgeous conversation we had, as we found quite a few shared sentiments being both neighbors of the USA, just on different borders, but with quite similar interests and feelings. A great personal experience and very memorable. In conclusion, I believe that Canadians and Mexicans should increase their relationship much more intensely, because we have much more in common in spite of the language and cultural differences, and are in certain ways more similar than different, and should put aside the heavy interest in business, to allow more human approaches than monetary ones.
Forgot to say that my dear father, that passed in 1991, did live in London during WW-II, as he was sent by our government to prrform as the Naval Attechè of the Embassy of Mexico in London, and he lived through the Battle of Britain in 1940, until the German surrender, traveling across countries as the war progressed, was in the British sector at Normandy two days after the initial beach takeover, went to the Casablanca Conference, saw the jewish death camps, and celebrated the VE Day together with a lot of Military Attachès from many allied countries. That was the reason to visit Ottawa, to go to the Ceremony of the 67th Anniversary of yhe Battle of Britain, that according to the story that my father told me, it truly changed the course of the war in 1940.
Dear sir, your words are welcome, and thank you for the fine words dedicated to Mexicans. Unfortunately, meantime the rest of the world is gathering together with communism, America, from north to south is making noticeable differences, instead of looking for the kind of thinking that you are teaching us here. I really hope all these silly nonsense to end soon before it might be way too late. My best regards!
Thank you friend, destiny put us as very close neighbors I personally than the United states, and of course Canada for stepping in when several countries one of them was Germany! That why they sunk our oil liners, also Japan imperialist government .. and yes we may have our differences when it comes down to it if anybody attacks the u.s. will affect Mexico directly ! The same with Canada we are united by destiny and Gods will
South Korean involvement in the Vietnam War is pretty much forgotten, and i dont see many movies about Vietnam referencing the Korean, Australian and Filipino troops in vietnam.
My father, a civilian pilot with an airline with lots of military contract (Airlift International) flew ROK Tigers into Vietnam. He said they were the toughest, most elite fighters he saw. Several stories!
@Comment For No One I've heard 10000 to 30000 Canadians volunteered to fight with the USA. Much like I'm sure happened with Americans during both world wars. I'm sure a lot went to Canada as it was fighting years before the USA entered either war. Young men often see war as an adventure or a duty if they believe in the cause
This is the kind of forgotten history that I love to see on this channel. I had no idea that Mexico had such a material contribution to the war, supporting American industry and agriculture and protecting shipping lanes against u-boats. With the big population of Mexican-Americans in the USA, many of whom I'm sure are unknowingly descendants of people who emigrated to support the war effort from the wheat fields, you would like to see stories like the 201st and Mexico's material support for the war taught in schools so that we could have a common story of unity to rally around in these divisive times. Thanks for making this video.
The only connection I knew between my country and Mexico was a shared Spanish heritage, the galleon trade and boxing! This comes as as a very pleasant surprise to learn Mexico actually fought to liberate the Philippines! Mabuhay Mexico! Gracias y que Dios the bendiga!!!
They have a culturally wise unit to train foreign troops today, the “Green Beret”. The history guy has quickly become a favorite. Thanks for the content.
Their contribution is fairly well-known, and this channel generally deals in obscure “I never heard of that” history. Of course, THG is free to make whatever he dang well pleases.
I'm Mexican and my grandfather was a miner in a small town near the US border when the war broke out, the coal production (which was coal for steel manufacture) went to the US war effort and the town blossomed thanks to that. I really appreciate this episode, which is the first I've seen of this channel. In these times where old resentments are being revived, it's good to hear these history lessons.
Viva Mexico! I remember as a little boy my parents & I would travel from southern Arizona to visit relatives in Culiacan. I had no idea of Mexico's contribution to WW II. Thanks for another great video.
I am a bit late to comment but great video. My father flew for the US Navy during the war and I am now an ex-pat (dual citizen) living near Puerto Vallarta. I love both countries and this video made my day. I wish my dad was still here so I could share this with him. Although he was born and bred American he loved Mexico too! Please keep the videos coming and take care.
Thank you for doing this , when I was in high school I had a project to deliver for my social studies class I did the 201st Aztec eagles and got an A + but everyone loved the presentation and everyone learned something
Armus Skinofevil - again with that Bullstuff. You probably think its ok to cross the border illegally. I’m not racist, just anti-criminal and sick and tired of this “your a racist” if I call it like I see it. I have Mexican family and love them dearly. I served with guys from all over Latin America whom were actually getting their citizenship because of it. One of the RIGHT ways. The left just continues to be a bunch of ignorant give me, give me, socialists. Why do you think across the American population you got less in taxes this year. Because we are paying back the previous presidents debacle stimulus plan. I think if you haven’t put up”served”, you should shut up, including not being able to vote.
@Herbert Norkus we are broke because rich people don't pay taxes. And as I recall, the agriculture industry relys on cheap labor which Americans won't provide. I find it hysterical that right wing folks who claim to be christian refuse aid to those in need who simply come begging.
"Latino" isn't a Race ,is a cultural-linguistic Group. There are White latinos(Like most argentinians and uruguayans),Afro-Latinos(Dominicans and Costa ricans) and Mestizos(majority of mexicans).
If you visit Cozumel island close to Cancun, in that place is the current base of the "Escuadrón 201, Aguilas Aztecas" They´ve displayed outside of the base one P47 Thunderbolt used in WWII. Greetings from Mexico
As a Mexican I thank you for gathering the history of the "Escuadron 201". Not much of it was taught in school and I learned more details of their achievements in the little time they were in action. Gracias!
My grandfather was there, he was a mexican airforce pilot and survived the war, he died shortly after the war in a training accident with his best friend and copilot one day before my dad turned 1 year old, and on that same day his comander was going to give him the good news after he returned from his training that he was promoted to Major, in all he left a widow and 3 small kids, his best friend didnt get married and had no family, they are both burried together and when we visit my grandfather we also take flowers to his best friend, he will never be alone or forgotten.
I learned something today. Thank you and love to those who fought along side my father. Honor and respect to those who gave their lives to defend freedom 🇺🇲🇲🇽
That is a great snippets of history. Thank you to our Mexican friends for your contribution to helping us in the war. Thank you history guy for remembering that history.
it´s hard .. politicians are the problem..the drug thing, it´s their main business here and up there..now, speaking about the people, are dickheads in every country but inmy expierience working as a barman, Americans are actually very polite people this is weird but it´s easier for us to have a nice talk with an american than with a southamerican even when our english sucks as you may already noticed .
Hi, as a proud mexicand I just wanna thank you for doing this video, it remind us the importance of knowing who we are, what we done, what can we acheive and most important, that Mexico and the USA can be good neighbours if we respect and help eachother. Cheers from Mexico City.
I am a citizen of the US, and have known several Mexicans, and I have never met one that I didn't like. Hard working, friendly people, with great food and companionship. We
I had absolutely *no* idea that this had even happened. Sounds like they may not have returned to a hero's welcome, but I consider them all to be heroes. Love this channel.
Well, this is History suppressed ONLY in the US by Hating WHITE people. Even today, some get angry that his info is exposed or even mentioned!! I know!!!
Next time you do an aeronautical history segment on WW2, consider doing the Normandie Niemen squadron - Free French pilots that were sent by De Gaulle to fight with the Red Air Force on the Eastern Front.
some of my best and closest friends was Mexican when I was stationed at Ft.Bliss .This made me think of them ,I really hope they are doing well where ever they are ,I would love to see them again .great video .Thank You !
BTW, the 201st squadron still exists as part of the Mexican Air Force. With the retirement of the last F-5E fighters in 2017, there are no longer any jet fighters to fly. The 201st flies T-6C+ armed turboprop trainers, but there are moves afoot to replace the engines of the three F-5Es in storage and return them to squadron service. Even though Mexico has no real need for jet fighters, the history of the 201st almost demands that at least that squadron still fly fighters, even in a ceremonial role.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel True, but the Mexicans still want to have some jet fighters for the 201st. Like I wrote, it's as much for a ceremonial role as any operational need.
@@JoseRamirez-yi5if I had heard they aquired rebuilt engines for three F-5s but hadn't heard they were actually back flying. They will only be useful for parade flying, but that's an important thing for Mexico.
Felicitaciones soy mexicano y soy egresado del Colegio del Aire y me dio mucho gusto saber mas de lo que hoy es la Fuerza Aerea Mexicana...saludos Amigo.
As a duel us Mexican certain currently living in war torn Mexico this is nice hearing that my people come from fighters hopefully we can overcome our current war thank you!
I wish they would have taught this in US history in schools early on. I am 40 years old and this is the first I hear about this beautiful history. I am disappointed.
By the way thanks for bringing up the Potrero del llano as my great grandfather served in it when it sank, he still survived, after that many of his friends died in the second torpedo and he was assigned into the timonelle of the Uxmal, the now biggest merchant ship operational at that time, before he passed away he told our family many crazy stories he had! Also he told us that one night they loaded the ship full of gold and was sent into new york, it was full of the army of both countries and he was held at gunpoint not to say anything, he said that in just that One cargo ship they transfered from Mexico to the US about 13% of all the gold now in fort knox! So Mexico was in some shady stuff back then! Greetings from Mexico!
SU HISTORIA ES POCO CONOCIDA,FUE LA APORTACION DE MEXICO CON SU ORO PARA EL RESTABLECIMIENTO ECONOMICO DESPUES DE LA GUERRA,Y EN U.S.A.HABLAN MAL DE MEXICO.
I would like to thank our Mexican cousins who helped liberate our islands here in the Philippines. Muchas gracias mis amigos!
Thank you for telling their story, THG.
Never preachy or smug THG reminds us to remember to respect our loyal neighbors to the south.
The war was all but over by the time they arrived overseas.
My father was stationed with the 1089 Signal Company at Clark airfield Papanga Philippines.
George McKenna - just wish they would get on board today. We need their help but because we are getting out of a lop sided trade agreement, costing America Millions if not Billions of dollars in lost income, they have no interest to help secure their boarder. Entering the country illegally only invites drug smugglers and criminals, amongst all the descent people, who they pray on often. I am so glad President Trump is helping Mexico get their act together. I have over 2 handfuls of friends of Latin Decent whom served time in the military, rather pissed the “illegals” get away with it. Hmm, true AMERICANS.
@@xcalibertrekker6693 But they arrived. Nothing else matters.
I have family on the Texas coast, whenever there's a hurricane or flood, at least a couple dozen Mexican Marines and/or Mexican Navy personnel show up to help... wonderful people. I once talked to a trucker from Mexico City who drove all the way to San Antonio, on his own money, just to deliver a bell to a church. He saw that they needed a new bell online, a church in Mexico City donated one, and he just climbed in his truck... All for people he didn't even know. That's Mexico for you. Thanks History Guy!
Henry Rodgers así somos, es nuestra cultura, puedes preguntárselo a cualquier otro país, lo malo es que siempre nos ven como “inmigrantes” que lejos de buscar el daño buscamos oportunidades que acá no tenemos
After Katrina hit the US (and with US permission), the Mexican Army sent troops across the border to Houston to aid in the relief efforts. The Mexican Army has since come to our aid other times since. ¡Gracias México!
There are lots of good folks in Mexico. That needs to be said. Also...Viva los Christeros! Viva Padre Miguel Pro! Viva Christo Rey!
Henry Rodgers, What a great story, but I'm not surprised by the gentleman big heart
No one informs this, we knew about the first time the Mexican army went to help, but no one told this was not the first and last one. Thanks for sharing.
Their is a monument on Phillipine iisland dedicated to the Mexican Eagle Aztecs
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ? now I got to see it !!! in person thanks man !!!!!!!
there is a monument*
And that's awesome they're being remembered and respected :)
Nice bros
Saludos a la hermosa Filipinas, beautiful Philipines 😄
LOL!! Sorry if that's your real name. Otherwise, it's pretty funny.
I had no idea that Mexico ever played an active part in WWII. Once again I have learned something new from your videos!
Me too hahaha and I am mexican
@@johaalexia4978 how are u not gonna know if it’s in on our Mexican textbook
@@dayanavila7295 it is????
pickin lettuce an things to eat its calle braceros program
Zimmerman note
I would like to thank the Mexican fighter squadron 201 of their combat actions over the Philippine Islands. Their bravery MUST be remembered, along side the American Armed Forces that Liberated the land of my birth. Muchas gracias mis amigos! Fil-Am.
You are welcome hermano! mx-ph
You are over rating the mexican contribution by a magnitude . . .
@Águila701 do you know what a magnitude is and the sheer numbers of allied squadrons in action in that conflict. I simply stated a fact.
@@toga1022 Oh so you're one of THOSE people. Gatekeeping who to thank based on "their contribution." Nasty attitude. Many countries participated in the Allied effort, they should all be thanked regardless of how big or small the contribution was.
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Back in 2007 when I visited the US Air Force museum at Wright-Patt Air Force Base, there was a small display about 201st Aztec Eagles Fighter Squadron.
willracer1jz In what state is Wright Patterson Air Force Base?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ohio.
Near Dayton.
@@John77Doe Wright Patterson Air Force Base is where the famous "Hanger 18" is located. I grew up not far from there, in Springfield, back in the 70s and 80s, and everybody always wondered if Aliens, or their spaceship, were really out there.
@@John77Doe Wright-Patt is home to the National Museum Of the USAF.
located just east of dayton,ohio. W-P is divided into 3 separate areas,A,B,C.. W-P has the largest medical center of any USAF Air Base.
The wright brothers flew their gliders less than 1 mile away from where the museum is located. the Museum is Ohio's largest free attraction.
also the worlds oldest and largest aviation museum. if you plan a trip there, you should plan 2-3 days to see it all.
Aguilas Aztecas! They helped the liberation of my country. The Philippines.
Viva Mexico! 🇲🇽
Muchas gracias hermano filipino!
Much love from MEXICO we ain't weak
Friend Chicken Mexicans and Filipinos are primos remember?
And then you Pay us kicking all our boxers asses for years and years Whit the fucking Manny paquiado. 😂 Or how we call him the mango pateado 😂 that guy Wass so great that we forget nationality in his fights. So great guy and kind person too.
@@FerSpada Pero el Guerrero Azteca Juan Manuel Marquez se los mando a contar borregas 😆
The "Aztec Eagles" is actually quite a badass name.
Would it be Aquilas Aztecas?
Yeah man!
I thought the same!
For a Rock Band ??
End there was a pilot Nick named pancho pistolas becouse he was a trigger happy Mexican pilot
The dude who got a school built in his hometown is a badass.
Yep. His courage to step out and request for a school has resulted in many children receiving education.
Hats off to him.
It is Bad Ass!!
What a great guy.
I went to that school.
Yeah that got me right in the feels. That sort of selflessness is really admirable. I’m sure as a pilot he really knew the value of an education.
My dad enlisted in the Mexican Army in June 1st 1944 and he often talked about the Aztec Eagles whenever we managed to get my old man to share some histories from his years in the service. He died as a 1st Captain and was also a doctor in the service
You mean 1st LT
True Ambitionz 1st Captain. I used to shine the brass bars so I know. After the war the Mexican Army dismissed many of the grunts who were no longer needed but gave them an option for those who wanted to stay by enrolling in schools like crazy, he made NCO first obviously and then went to an Army College by the name of CAPOA (Centro de Adiestramiento Para Oficiales de la Armada) I believe that’s what it means but that school now operates under a different name. He graduated from that college as a 1st Lt and then pursue Medicine. He retired after 34 years of service.
Your dad was a man of courage.
skee0212 thank you! Yes he was
A A hopefully everyone could hear a story or two of your dad's memories... but if you mind, do you know the school's name that the aztec eagles built?
"Our largest supplier of material in WWII." I just thought that was worth repeating in case anyone missed it the first time.
THIS. As soon as THG starting speaking about our neighbors to the south I thought “Oil for the war effort.”
they were one of only a very few doing so, in exchange for transforming their military completely... small enough price to pay.
Perhaps you can adopt some of them.
David , I think you kind of missed the BIG Over-all picture , and E$pecially like it Still Very Much Continues Today : Materials = parts & all The Manufacturing Machinery + The Mechanical Education of , and Jobs . . = The Big Financial Picture - Largely provided $ from All Of N. A .
Cheers to Mexico's A.F. for joining in - to also Protect their own Country in the Big Picture . Becuz ' Adolf & Antonio ' wouldn't have stopped at just N. A .
Mexico's actions as to the U-boats sinking their war neutral oil freighters - Sounds 500% Right to Me !!! " Mucho Tequila and Cerveza all around to those Men "
I also would have never Guessed that Mexico would even have an A.F. back in the 30's and 40's . I've actually never Seen On Here - or even Heard Of a Mexican or Brazil A.F. today or in their past past . . Kind of strange with me owning so many Canadian and USA WW2 dvds now . . ?? As I grow older , I can't seem to learn enough about it !
" I got some Mucho New Google - YT Searching to do now and in the future "
If you feel it is necessary, be my guest.
Mexicans are a proud people with an amazing history. It is wonderful to see them portrayed in a positive light during these trying times.
"Trying times" meaning migrant caravans at the border I suppose, caravans which are comprised of mostly Central Americans and other nationalities btw.
Unfortunately they went rom honorable people to . Selling drugs . And a corrupt government that doesn't give 3 shits about the amount of violence and sheer grotesque way the cartels kill each othe and people who dont join in. Yup a far cry from what they are and what Mexico is . Is not even safe to visit .just as bad as a war zone no go Zone.
albert speer albert speer Wtf are u talking about??? Selling drugs yes to the US because the high demand, you’ve ever seen those crackheads on living on streets and even rich ppl because they need their blow 😂 honestly the US has big problems too like kids shooting up schools, mass shootings, and gang violence notably in poor city’s like chiraq, south central LA, Detroi ect.. I’ve been to Mexico many many times and worst things that’s happened to me is getting fucked over by those tourist scams
zack grumet Glad you’re proud of family history as you should those were very complicated times to live in:/
@albert speer, you obviously haven't been to Mexico. It's nowhere near as bad as you say. Millions of tourists still go there with no problems.
Respect to Mexico 🇲🇽 thanks for fighting along side the USA 🇺🇸 and Canada 🇨🇦 as long as us 3 stay brothers nobody going to invade North America 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇲🇽
I am mexican and I promise I will defend your country if there would be another world war.
Lol what does Mexico have to offer the US besides cheap labor?
Don't tread on me dude I love the USA 🇺🇸 to have a lot of respect for you guys just respect the Mexicans man you might need them in a future war 😃 have a good day
@@mopar21 Brave men willing to die for their home and people. Meanwhile you cowards are killing civilians you bastards are nothing more than Isis in camouflage.
I like the idea of Three Brothers...Tres Hermanos...standing and working together in peace as well as national emergencies. Mexico, US, Canada
It is with due regret to inform you, that the last pilot which integrated the Mexican 201st Expeditionary Air Force Squadron, Colonel Carlos Garduño, has passed away on the 3rd of February 2022, of old age at 102.
He, and his squadron shall be remembered for their effort, and contribution to fight for freedom and liberty.
May he rest in peace.
🇲🇽 - 🇺🇸 - 🇵🇭
Vuela alto, capitán.
Sending Colonel Garduno a slow salute. Thank you for your service sir!
Damn, my great uncle bucket list was to meet one of them
Descanse En Paz Don Garduno 🇲🇽-🇺🇸
Rip😢 viva Mexico 🇲🇽
Gracias por su servicio mi Coronel.
Here in Mexico there are many memorials and streets named thanks to the 201 squadron, so here in Mexico it is still remembered with pride!
I'd wish they talked more about this in schools though
@@noelaguirrechavez4462 agreed, when i was in middle school they actually did mention mexicos part in the war, although it was only once and unspecific
Asi es, he visto que in suburbio de Cd Mexico se llama Escuadron 201...el 201 todavia existe, y he visto que se le considera el Escuadron de Elite de la FAM!!!
Enserio. No sabia la vdd. Primera vez que escucho esto
I so respect our Mexican friends and Allies!
I'm sorry for our embarrassment of a president!!
Love and respect you all!!!
This is a great piece of history. I found out about these Mexican fighters when I visited a war ship in San Diego, the Navy had a plaque honoring the Aztec Eagles..
Yeah, their main assignment was to protect the NAVY ships in the Pacific Theater.
Robert, sadly (and luckily) those men of the 201 are more recognized by the US armed forces than from the Mexican government.
Until very recently they have received public honors and recognition, all which have come too late as this fine gentlemen are fading away.
The Mexican government has always been wary of our military being too public.
@@arq.josecompean5860 That's non-sense!!
Just bc you didn't know doesn't mean it didn't happen. I have known for years and have seen many commemorations.
It is the US that tries to suppress any knowledge of this History.
and only in recent years the surviving members of the 201st have been making LIVE presentations at the different Air Shows throughout the U.S.
This is clear, as we can see how many people are saying, here; They never heard of this before.............................
@@jesscast5122 Nah bro the Cartels care more about covering themselves than honoring heros. Mexican Government is corrupt. In no way will it recover without detoxing the entirety of the Mexican Government.
@@ess9163 you're stupid dude you went completely off topic
Viva Mexico! Thank you from a Filipino!
And an American
You are welcome amigo!
You cant deny lots of people should respect their work
@@archlich4489 no
It's funny how we almost forgot how we share history, last names and traditions
I am a proud nephew of General Graco Ramirez, pilot of the Squadron 201
I remember him as a hero. , My wife and children also met him. Very proud of him, indeed.
Eduardo Ramírez
Hey friend we have the same last name. There seems to be a lot of Ramirez
yo le pondria a mis hijos Aguila 1, Aguila 2, Aguila 3 ........jaaajajjajajajaaj
El tío Graco! Saludos desde Campeche!
Tengo un tio que se llama Eduardo "Lalo" Ramirez, mi nombre es Charles Arturo Roberts-Ramirez. Soy orgulloso ser mitad Mexicano, la mejor mitad!
@@charlesroberts3650 NO LA MEJOR MITAD ES LA OTRA PERO ......LA INOLVIDABLE ES LA MEXA CHINGAO JAJAAJ
I am 100% mexican, and my mother worked all her life in the US and is now a US Citizen. I would not hesitate to pick up a rifle and fight for either of the flags: US or Mexico. Thank you for this history lesson and God bless both of our countries.
I'm with you.
Yes but who are u loyal to?
2nd panzer division Loyal to the best country in the world 🇺🇸
@@2.5_RANGERok keyboard warrior
@@alexo.3758 i dont expect u to understand
I'm from Monterrey, México. I live just 2 blocks near a park with an amazing Memorial of 201 Squadron. Have the names of each pilot, a short story of them and an almost real size airplane. Great video, saludos compadre.
Vives en Las Brisas?
@punkiller666 Simón. Nas cheves, o qué?
Yes sir, there's also a memorial for the "Aztec Eagles" in the Philippines also. Saludos los primos Mexicanos!
rohli estrada Un fuerte abrazo, amigo.
I will add that to my list of places to visit and show respect to the men that helped save the Philippines.
A lot of Filipinos like me didn't even know that Mexico helped to liberate our country from Japan. This should be taught in our schools. Saludos Mehiko! Saludos hermanos!🇵🇭🇲🇽
Amen hermanos
@@gog7790 Salu2 brother, Viva Mexico, Vivan los Filipinos!!
@@P71ScrewHead saludos , y siempre con la frente para adelante no importa lo que pase..piche mundo nos mira mal y nos quiere pisotear y extinguir de el planeta pero aquí seguimos y seguiremos... día a día cambiar la corrupción que hay en nuestra raza y se los aseguro que tenemos lo suficiente para ser la próxima potencia mundial ...
@@gog7790 Asi es, y gracias a AMLO estamos terminando con la corrupcion en Mexico, y no permitiendo ke paises sakeadores regresen a robar.. AMLO esta garantizando la indepenencia Mexicana e invirtiendo en nuestras fuerzas militares, aereas, y marina..
Kyle Panuncillon - There is an impressive exhibit on the WWII Mexican Air Force at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio.
20 years in the U.S. Air Force and I have never heard this before. Thanks for another fantastic video!
234 Million years as the Monarch of the United Kingdom and I have never heard this before. Meh video. Let's talk about why gravity and titties don't mix next. sad!
What? It's all over the Place:
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Don’t worry… you are in the AF to learn to fly and everything around it, train as a soldier, so many other things… not entirely history lol
To be honest I am one of the few Mexicans who knows history, including this passage… and even that I was nicely surprised by some of the facts spoken here.
Mexico and American should be more than hated neighbors… brothers and partners seem more appropriate… even the language barrier should be an strength for both, not a barrier.
That will be the day… and President Trump is doing well, more than well… please avoid Biden, Warren or worse Sanders (Venezuela? Hello?)
Cheers!
C-ren
The Mexican Constitution forbids any involvement outside our territory… only this Escuadrón 201… and perhaps Pancho Villa, but who knows as history was been twisted almost as badly as the Alamo (**), and the non aggression incursión of the Mexican Army to give support to the victims of Hurricane Katrina in both food and cuisine (victims had enough McDonald’s after a week, they all cheered the Mexican flag)
It took 18 to 20 months for the two Mexican congress chambers (Diputados and Senadores) to approve a breaking of constitutional rules and laws back then…
(**) El Álamo
Sure, Santana this or that… boo Santana!!! Sure sure
But nobody in documentaries and much less Hollywood movies speak about the slaves… yeah! Texan land owners (under Mexican rule) had thousands or more slaves to work the fields, against Mexican laws and the constitution which states those slave were free by being in a territory of Mexico.
Santana’s troops actually free several dozen slaves who were locked and chained outside the Alamo fort, living in horrible conditions.
Stories say Mexican soldiers were … I can’t tell as this situation is probably myth but the solders were horrified at what monsters under Austin were.
But Mexicans and Santana were the bad guys… when they attack a sedition uprising fortified in El Álamo
I guess today Intersectional nonsense is payment for that and so many other things… NO! Nobody living now should pay, not our fault…
America is the greatest country in the world…
I hope my México can at least approach its northern neighbor a little.
Cheers
@@RebeccaCampbell1969 im glad i wasnt the only one to realize this
Nope, Never heard of these Mexican WW2 heroes. Thank You for sharing.
you should probably read more about WWll history
So you're stupid
Jorge Leon he’s not stupid it’s just not a lot of people talk about it
Francisco Contreras yeah but you can’t call him stupid for not knowing
There are such sad little people in the world.
I'm deeply honored for learning this. I live along the Mexican border. Thank You for putting this on line.
Mexico 1940's: Largest supplier of war materials to the U.S.
Mexico 2019: Surpasses China as the U.S.'s largest trading partner.
Some things never change.
Better Mexico than China.
Mexico and the United States are brothers will always be brothers long live our relationship may we both flourish and prosper as nations
Youd think we'd be sending billions of dollars in aid to Mexico since they're literally our neighbor and we share a lot of the same problems. Just redirect the aid we already give to israel
avacados and american owned companies building their shit (like freighliner trucks)
I didnt know Mexico surpassed China as a supplier to the US, these two countries despite their political tension, support each other very well
That Airman stepping forward and asking the Mexican President that a school be built in his hometown and the President keeping his word and building that school showed us the men of those times were men of honor asking for a school that still stands today was their testament of honor.
De que puebla esta la escula?? (sorry I can't write in Spanish) !! Wonder where
@@TheLastCustomer What are the chances?? The priest who married me and my wife many years was a missionary priest stationed in Morelos. Padre Rickertt, he was born in Ireland. My Dad was an aviator, shot down over Europe. I still visit Mexico frequently. Someday, perhaps, I can visit. You can see his story on youtube; "Tail-end Charlie " B-24 loss. Thank you. Are you Mexican or American?
To find that video: type "B 24 liberator tail end charlie". My thanks to the Dutch underground for saving Dad is at 29:36. A School: entirely selfless. I've finished 40 years as a teacher.
@@TheLastCustomer Awesome ! Thanks for the info.
@@DGill48 Tepoztlán, Morelos
History Guy you consistently come forth with surprising facts. I thought I knew a lot about WWII, but I've never heard of the Mexican Squadron. Bravo!
Same here cheers🍻
Check out the Brazilian units that fought in Italy if aren't aware of them
@@davem2369 I will. Thanks.
My dad old me how he saw them fly over El Paso, if I'm remembering correctly, on the way back from the Pacific. I got a feeling that maybe they stopped in San Antonio at one of the many u.s. Air Force bases there before heading south.
Brazil was the only Latin American nation to fight the Axis on the ground, wasn't it? That would make an excellent video. @@davem2369
My grandfather was one of those pilots, and he didn't make it back home.
Rest In Peace Brave Airman, your contribution will always be remembered.
How sad and grateful he died honorably.
He stopped off at the Cantina to see Juicy Lucy and her tricky capesta
BS liar!
What a bunch of lies. My dad was a real US Marine in WW2 Okinawa! His cousin died in 1944 B24s over Truk. Liar
Thanks for sharing this. I have large parts of my family who are either Mexican or Chicano - and US veterans. Their story deserves respect...
Not surprising to me at all. For anyone who knows anything about P-47's or even WWII fighters or even WWII. Should know about the "AZTEC EAGLES". Excellent Group
Mr Dyer, is there any books on the subject, would love to get more knowledge. Gracias
@@EastLosAngeles1964classic There is one is publication , 201st Squadron "Aztec Eagles" ISBN 978-0997085884 and another to be published soon AZTEC EAGLES, which should be available soon, pre-order I have seen is available {Amazon} Good Luck
The P47D was a fine aircraft. Some US pilots preferred them over P51s.
This video is "Must See" viewing for people who don't understand Mexican and US cooperation benefits both nations immensely.
The biggest thing for P-47 were the armor and 8 guns,
Pio Sian itt could take a serious beating and still bring you back home and it was a great tank killer
For you, admirers of the "Jug" P-47, this is for you:
Did you know that a couple of Mexican pilots from Mexico's 201 Squadron devised a different type of Inclined Dive-Bombing using the Republic P47D that was never intended to be executed because it lacked Dive-Brakes, and that the American commanders just allowed them to execute that tactic after the pleading insistence from the Mexicans, and that they achieved good results in spite of heavy and concentrated AA fire from the Japanese?
That tactic was explained by one of the last survivors during an extended interview aired some five years ago, Try to search for it, even when it is in Spanish, as his description is full of vivid details!
For a plane that could hit nearly 600 mph in a steep dive I'd say it was the F-15 of its time. It also had a turbo-supercharger which gave it a service ceiling slightly higher than the P-51, which only had a supercharger. It was also capable of surviving damage that would have taken the '51 out of the sky. I'd love to see a flight worthy example painted in 201st livery. Some day.
People who flew them both said that it was like a MAC truck and a Mercedes Benz like the P47 & P51
Thank you for showing people the history of my country Mexico. As a USA citizen and Mexican, you did good.
It's not your country if you were born in usa dumbass and if you're so proud about your country mexico then go live over there
@@boomchakalaka1976 don't be a douche
Never heard this on pbs
Thank you Mexico, for your part!
Mexicans are good people that really just want peace,love,unity. God bless USA.
@Rusty We Mexicans are good here in Mexico,it's the central Americans who you guys confuse as Mexicans who are going to the U.S. your U.S media has you guys brainwashed.
@Will Barett no one hates America we hate that you guys fail too look at the truth and blame other countries for your own fuck ups. The drug cartel began since the 1800 and USA was the reason for that they needed heroin and at the time Chinese immigrants had been going to Mexico so USA started paying local people to bring that through. Ad than they found Iraq and Afghanistan so they left Mexico to clean up their mess.... Look it up how did drug trafficking began in Mexico.... Thanks to USA but you will never look for the truth you are very sheep like brainwashed. I know the truth I decided to look into the truth and you can't hide that. It's not USA we hate it's the ignorance that y'all have that we hate. You blame Mexico for USAs mess... Very ignorant
I am very proud to say that my uncle, Jesus Tapia Estrada, was a pilot in squadron 201 of the Mexican Expeditionary Air Force and a member of the Aztec Eagles.
Mexico thank you for your sacrifice and commitment.
try to tell that about this part of the war as to Mexico to Trump. must remember Trump shits on us LATINOS.
If you're in any way related to THE GENERAL. That's a great load to carry. Respects!
@@cruzsilva5004 A former coworker told me that Mexico is Socialist. He is not a big fan of his goverment.
jed-henry Witkowski as to your ex-coworker. full of shit. to make that case clear. worldpopulationreview.com/countries/democratic-socialist-countries/
{ but. will say from my opinion } why make up a so call ex-coworker. when it's actually you fabricating a Pinocchio lie. your just a radical white racist trump supporter.
I speak for all good Mexicans and believe me we are grateful for allowing your country to support them until the end of the conflict
Never once had I ever heard of this Historic event. Are we blessed to have The History Guy around to enlighten us of our forgotten History.
IDK why......It;s all over the place....
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Mexico and Brazil both contributed air squadrons to the Allies during WWII. Colombia and the Dominican Republic contributed air assets based in Panama to help defend the Canal.
Sar Jim Where was the Brazilian fighter squadron deployed?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@John77Doe The 1st Fighter Group of the Brazilian Air Force was deployed to Italy in September, 1944, flying 445 fighter-bomber missions from November 1944 to May, 1945. They flew the same types of P-47s as the Mexican Air Force. The Air Force also flew constant patrols from the long Brazilian coastline, assisting in the sinking of one U-boat and rescuing thousands of survivors of sinkings off the coast.
@@sarjim4381 Brazil also sent a combat division , which was part of allied units that took Mont Casino .
it’s COLOMBIA...not...Columbia!
@@kevinmarsh5101 Correct. The Brazilian Army supplied a full division of about 16,000 troops. They were involved in some of the hardest fighting on the Italian front, including Monte Casino. It was the largest non-Commonwealth, non-European contribution to the war other than the United States.
I salute our Mexican brothers in arms bravo
Amen brother! I am with you. I feel bad that when I was in High School we never were taught any of this. That is sad. And I love History.
Quote from wikipedia: "The 201st Mexican Squadron was given credit for putting out of action about 30,000 Japanese troops and the destruction of enemy held-buildings, vehicles, tanks, anti-aircraft guns, machine guns emplacements and ammunition depots." wow...
Those numbers are hard to verify, but close air support is invaluable, and certainly saved many allied lives.
Wow!!
Damn. Hell yeah
Killed 30,000 Japanese!? I'm calling el bullshit.
30,000 Japanese troops put out of action by 33 pilots?? Holy numbers batman.
Bravo to the young soldier who asked the President for a school in his home town.
Subltnt Ángel Bocanegra del Castillo was his name.
He said..."Mr President, I'll ask you for a school in Tepoztlán, my hometown. If you allow me, I'll gladly repay it with my blood..."
Muchas gracias. I looked up the young officer and was glad to hear that he was a teacher as well as a soldier. And wow, what an interesting family name. It always makes me wonder what odd historical event these old Spanish names come from.
Thank you History guy for sharing this little known history to the world.
I am from the Philippines and we, the Filipino people appreciate what our mexican brothers has done for the war.
They fought over the Philippine skies to liberate us from the oppressors.
A friend of mine told me of her grand father's story. During world war 2, her grand father was just a boy. He witnessed a dogfight between a Japanese fighter ( probably a zero ) and a thunderbolt. He climbed over a tree to watch the fight and cheered for the allied plane but he fell and broke a bone but stood up again and still cheered. We will never know but that thunderbolt might just have been one of the Mexican 201st.
What the Mexicans did for us during the war might be little known but I do remember a mention of this in our history class in High school.
Thank you again History Guy! Can you do a video about the battle of Manila, the battle of Corregidor, and that one time some Cebuano Fishermen captured a vital intel from a crashed japanese plane? Thanks!!!
The P-47 would not have been from the 201st, as they never engaged enemy fighters. That part of the war was virtually over by the time they deployed. Their service was mostly in a close air support role.
I do plan more episodes on the Philippines campaign, yes. In the mean time, please enjoy these episodes: ua-cam.com/video/TZD59vApUWc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/eqkTddTNMBY/v-deo.html
Did you know that thirty thousand Canadians joined the U.S. in Vietnam. No? Most Canadians don't either, it's history, that deserves to be remembered.
Robert Tinsley Yes, and if I remember correctly it was almost equal to the number of shit birds who hid out in Canada until the biggest shit bird of all Jimmy Carter pardoned them and never acknowledged the Hero's from Canada who served under our Flag.
@@rpm12091As a Canadian, I can't agree with you. Though they should have done jail time as many did, dying for a deeply unjust war or 'patriotism' is basically never the right choice. Many of those draft dodgers have led productive healthy lives here, unlike several draft-dodging US presidents. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel after all.
Most fought as Marines, it was stopped due to a fear we were creating a US Foreign Legion, I have met a couple of these wonderful neighbors.
Yes.
Also the Aussie and South Korean contributions.
Many years ago, when I was a young man, I had a job as a salesman in a gun shop in Mexico City. Well, one day one of our customers told us that he had been part of the "Escuadrón 201" and told us all about his deployment to the Pacific theater. He included the fact that he had been captured and was a prisoner of war of the Japanese. In addition, he said that the commander of the Japanese prison camp was a woman and that somehow she found him attractive. She would send him additional food at the end of the day and asked for sexual favors in exchange. One day, he said, the Japanese disappeared and the group of prisoners found themselves free and later were rescued. He returned to his unit and eventually to Mexico. Many of my friends had never heard of the Mexican participation in the war; however, it is included in the Encyclopaedia of World War II published in England. I will send your presentation to my friends. Thanks for sharing this and best you, as always.
The customer maybe was lying, there's is no way that a Japanese woman would be allowed to be the commander of a prison camp.
That is a bad ass. What a unique input. Thanks
I'm afraid such a story is very unlikely, not to mention its latin lover content. I think no 201 squadron personnel turned to be a POW. The only chance would be a downed pilot, but the only one missing was declared dead. Nevertheless, it shows the relevance of this military commitment in many minds from that generation (including those just seeking some attention). As far as I know, actual 201 squadron veterans hold a very 'elite' reverence within the mexican military.
Allow me to share that -for many years- most tin toy helmets in Mexico were sold with a frontal stamp: 201.
Greetings.
So that is just a bunch of lies, no 201 was POW's, there is no way in high hell that a Japanese woman was allowed to run a POW camp, and when the Japanese abandoned POW camps, they shot all the POW's or took them with, they never left them behind.
@@commissargarudaslivestream5177 Japanese army committed many atrocities toward POWs. However and commonly, most POWs camps in occupied countries were abandoned only after Japan's surrender. In most cases, POWs were simply left, not transferred or even handed out to the allied forces. POWs in Japanese territory were kept 'safe' and delivered afterwards. Of course, this does not exclude some possible isolated war crimes I have not heard of.
I just gotta say I LOVE your vids! And I am really glad to see the recognition of the contribution of the Mexican military be acknowledged in this way. Maybe you could do one on their rescue efforts during Katrina?
I'm British/Canadian by birth, but grew up in the States. It saddens me that racism and ignorance so grossly undervalues our patient ally to the south. I work and hope that this will change one day, because both nations can benefit from a relationship that is more like what we have with Canada.
Till that time, I tip my hat to the noble, talented country to the south and with Mexico all the success it deserves!
What a nice feeling reading your post! I've been only two times in Canada, one at Calgary back in sept 1997 and on vacation at Montreal/Ottawa/Quebec/Niagara/Toronto in 2007. Canadian people treated me as if I was a member of their family in Calgary, and nicely at the East cities. At Ottawa I was fortunate enough to go to the Battle of Britain commemoration on Sept. 15, 2007 at the excellent Canada Air and Space Museum at Rockcliffe airport in Ottawa-Gatineau, with an impressive Fly-By and a very solemn ceremony. I hope to be able to visit your country again, and wish you the best. When at Calgary in 1997, I was received by the family of a young Canadian engineer, and they treated me as if I were another son, and during a weekend the mother of that family took me to the mountains around Lake-Louise, Banff and nearby places of extraordinary beauty, but what was even more impressive, was the absolutely gorgeous conversation we had, as we found quite a few shared sentiments being both neighbors of the USA, just on different borders, but with quite similar interests and feelings. A great personal experience and very memorable.
In conclusion, I believe that Canadians and Mexicans should increase their relationship much more intensely, because we have much more in common in spite of the language and cultural differences, and are in certain ways more similar than different, and should put aside the heavy interest in business, to allow more human approaches than monetary ones.
Forgot to say that my dear father, that passed in 1991, did live in London during WW-II, as he was sent by our government to prrform as the Naval Attechè of the Embassy of Mexico in London, and he lived through the Battle of Britain in 1940, until the German surrender, traveling across countries as the war progressed, was in the British sector at Normandy two days after the initial beach takeover, went to the Casablanca Conference, saw the jewish death camps, and celebrated the VE Day together with a lot of Military Attachès from many allied countries. That was the reason to visit Ottawa, to go to the Ceremony of the 67th Anniversary of yhe Battle of Britain, that according to the story that my father told me, it truly changed the course of the war in 1940.
Dear sir, your words are welcome, and thank you for the fine words dedicated to Mexicans. Unfortunately, meantime the rest of the world is gathering together with communism, America, from north to south is making noticeable differences, instead of looking for the kind of thinking that you are teaching us here. I really hope all these silly nonsense to end soon before it might be way too late. My best regards!
@@alfredomarquez9777 Sir, your English is absolutely stunning good. Congrats.
Thank you friend, destiny put us as very close neighbors I personally than the United states, and of course Canada for stepping in when several countries one of them was Germany! That why they sunk our oil liners, also Japan imperialist government .. and yes we may have our differences when it comes down to it if anybody attacks the u.s. will affect Mexico directly ! The same with Canada we are united by destiny and Gods will
South Korean involvement in the Vietnam War is pretty much forgotten, and i dont see many movies about Vietnam referencing the Korean, Australian and Filipino troops in vietnam.
Asmin Siza - Wow, I knew about the Aussies but not the others. That would be cool.
My father, a civilian pilot with an airline with lots of military contract (Airlift International) flew ROK Tigers into Vietnam. He said they were the toughest, most elite fighters he saw. Several stories!
More history that deserves to be remembered.
Asmin Siza and the Kiwis.
@Comment For No One I've heard 10000 to 30000 Canadians volunteered to fight with the USA. Much like I'm sure happened with Americans during both world wars. I'm sure a lot went to Canada as it was fighting years before the USA entered either war. Young men often see war as an adventure or a duty if they believe in the cause
After the Eddie Albert story I was wondering about Mexico's standing in the war....Thank you again for this fantastic upgrading of my brain cells
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til wow respect from us filipinos, thank you for the mexican fighter squadron for helping liberate us.
your welcome! and would do it all over again as we mexica always considered the Filipino people as our brothers
This is the kind of forgotten history that I love to see on this channel. I had no idea that Mexico had such a material contribution to the war, supporting American industry and agriculture and protecting shipping lanes against u-boats. With the big population of Mexican-Americans in the USA, many of whom I'm sure are unknowingly descendants of people who emigrated to support the war effort from the wheat fields, you would like to see stories like the 201st and Mexico's material support for the war taught in schools so that we could have a common story of unity to rally around in these divisive times. Thanks for making this video.
The only connection I knew between my country and Mexico was a shared Spanish heritage, the galleon trade and boxing! This comes as as a very pleasant surprise to learn Mexico actually fought to liberate the Philippines! Mabuhay Mexico! Gracias y que Dios the bendiga!!!
They have a culturally wise unit to train foreign troops today, the “Green Beret”. The history guy has quickly become a favorite. Thanks for the content.
Still hoping you do a piece on the Polish Pilots of the RAF in WWII
I love how "The battle of Britain" movie portrays them. Heroes all.
I knew a fellow who was Polish Pilot in the battle of Britain, he was a great guy! and a fascinating man.
Their contribution is fairly well-known, and this channel generally deals in obscure “I never heard of that” history. Of course, THG is free to make whatever he dang well pleases.
Or the American pilots who fly for Poland during the Polish-Soviet War.
I would like to see a segment on Flying Sergeants in the Marines in the South Pacific.
This is why I love this channel. You learn about history that would other wise go unheard.
My uncle was a P-38 mechanic deployed to protect the Panama Canal. They did U-boat patrols. Forgotten deployments, like the Aleutian islands.
???? what does that have to do with the price of tomatoes?
I'm Mexican and my grandfather was a miner in a small town near the US border when the war broke out, the coal production (which was coal for steel manufacture) went to the US war effort and the town blossomed thanks to that.
I really appreciate this episode, which is the first I've seen of this channel. In these times where old resentments are being revived, it's good to hear these history lessons.
Another story that more citizens of USA should know about.
Why's that?
@@weirdshibainu US citizens tend to be very parochial and know much less about the world than those in other nations.
@@linda1lee2 That sounds racist. Shame.
I know. Our educational system doesn't focus well on history outside the US and Europe.
@@dodgeplow Why should it? We're destroying much of our history under the guise of racism. Statues torn down, history books redacted.
Viva Mexico! I remember as a little boy my parents & I would travel from southern Arizona to visit relatives in Culiacan. I had no idea of Mexico's contribution to WW II. Thanks for another great video.
Thank you for bringing this to light.
Respect & Gratitude!!
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60 years old and NEVER knew that! Thanks very interesting sir!
Mexico is such a great country, good people, good food, good music, good scenery.
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Thank you for this chapter. Saludos desde Mexico!
I am a bit late to comment but great video. My father flew for the US Navy during the war and I am now an ex-pat (dual citizen) living near Puerto Vallarta. I love both countries and this video made my day. I wish my dad was still here so I could share this with him. Although he was born and bred American he loved Mexico too! Please keep the videos coming and take care.
I share your compassion for history, I'm always reminding my friends of this and that and still learn everyday. So thank you very much
Thank you for doing this , when I was in high school I had a project to deliver for my social studies class I did the 201st Aztec eagles and got an A + but everyone loved the presentation and everyone learned something
Col. Carlos Garduño died on Feb 03 2022 the last survivor of the 201 squadron, fligh high Aztec Eagle.
Great episode. There would be less racism in today's society if we had more positive stories about this country and people.
Armus Skinofevil - again with that Bullstuff. You probably think its ok to cross the border illegally. I’m not racist, just anti-criminal and sick and tired of this “your a racist” if I call it like I see it. I have Mexican family and love them dearly. I served with guys from all over Latin America whom were actually getting their citizenship because of it. One of the RIGHT ways. The left just continues to be a bunch of ignorant give me, give me, socialists. Why do you think across the American population you got less in taxes this year. Because we are paying back the previous presidents debacle stimulus plan. I think if you haven’t put up”served”, you should shut up, including not being able to vote.
Don't feed the trolls.
@@CatMan_7 stuff it. Take it someplace where someone cares. Not this comments section.
@Herbert Norkus we are broke because rich people don't pay taxes. And as I recall, the agriculture industry relys on cheap labor which Americans won't provide. I find it hysterical that right wing folks who claim to be christian refuse aid to those in need who simply come begging.
"Latino" isn't a Race ,is a cultural-linguistic Group.
There are White latinos(Like most argentinians and uruguayans),Afro-Latinos(Dominicans and Costa ricans) and Mestizos(majority of mexicans).
If you visit Cozumel island close to Cancun, in that place is the current base of the "Escuadrón 201, Aguilas Aztecas" They´ve displayed outside of the base one P47 Thunderbolt used in WWII. Greetings from Mexico
I went there some years ago to an Air show and they flew some of those planes.
As a Mexican I thank you for gathering the history of the "Escuadron 201". Not much of it was taught in school and I learned more details of their achievements in the little time they were in action. Gracias!
My grandfather was there, he was a mexican airforce pilot and survived the war, he died shortly after the war in a training accident with his best friend and copilot one day before my dad turned 1 year old, and on that same day his comander was going to give him the good news after he returned from his training that he was promoted to Major, in all he left a widow and 3 small kids, his best friend didnt get married and had no family, they are both burried together and when we visit my grandfather we also take flowers to his best friend, he will never be alone or forgotten.
I learned something today. Thank you and love to those who fought along side my father. Honor and respect to those who gave their lives to defend freedom 🇺🇲🇲🇽
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It wasn't called world war to exaggerate. Majority of countries were involved like it or not. Also, thanks Mexico!
A terrific video.. I did not know about the contribution Mexico had to the prosecution of WWII.. Thank THG, this is my new thing I learnt for today..
LOL here is some more:
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FUERZA AÉREA EXPEDICIONARIA MEXICANA.....ESCUADRON DE ATAQUE 201.....52 MISIONES DE COMBATE....30.000 BAJAS JAPONESAS....EN APOYO A INFANTERIA NORTEAMERICANA
Steve Leslie My friend Patricia of Mexico City father was a Mexican P47 pilot in the 201st in the Pacific. Last name Carillo.
Dile a patricia que le doy el reconocimiento y honor a su padre por poner el nombre de mexico en alto
This is really cool I have been a ww2 buff my whole life in 40 years of study I've never heard of this! Thank you
That is a great snippets of history. Thank you to our Mexican friends for your contribution to helping us in the war.
Thank you history guy for remembering that history.
Mark Armstrong Mexico will always help the United States. May god bless our relationship. We are brothers
Yes! Thank you Mexico. One day I'd like to see this crazy era lead to better understanding.
Believe me, so do I.
it´s hard .. politicians are the problem..the drug thing, it´s their main business here and up there..now, speaking about the people, are dickheads in every country but inmy expierience working as a barman, Americans are actually very polite people this is weird but it´s easier for us to have a nice talk with an american than with a southamerican even when our english sucks as you may already noticed .
Wow I didn't know this about Mexico, May their WWII generation RIP.
Thank you for giving a voice to the Aztec Eagles and the Braceros like my late grandfather
Wow, didn't know that. I would like to thank those brave young men.
Hi, as a proud mexicand I just wanna thank you for doing this video, it remind us the importance of knowing who we are, what we done, what can we acheive and most important, that Mexico and the USA can be good neighbours if we respect and help eachother. Cheers from Mexico City.
My gpa was part of the 201st and flew in the pacific
My father served in the pacific. Took three tries before he could get in at 35 years old, but he finally convinced them
Pinchi Mentiroso...............
You seem more like an internet troll to me
Mister Chief My uncle was a pilot in the Escuadron 201, his name was Lt. Praxedis Lopez Ramos.
No manches!!! Qué chido!
Not enough people know this here in Mexico either, you are not at fault, my friends, good video on it!
in Mexico is Well known. except by the callejeros Marihuanos!......
It's a good contribution. Here in Mexico we don't remember to much that part of our history. Great video! Muchas gracias.
I am a citizen of the US, and have known several Mexicans, and I have never met one that I didn't like. Hard working, friendly people, with great food and companionship.
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I had absolutely *no* idea that this had even happened. Sounds like they may not have returned to a hero's welcome, but I consider them all to be heroes.
Love this channel.
Well, this is History suppressed ONLY in the US by Hating WHITE people.
Even today, some get angry that his info is exposed or even mentioned!! I know!!!
I didnt even know this and I love history...sad I never saw this in history books while in school.
I think maybe because historians only like to talk about the big things and not the small ones
Next time you do an aeronautical history segment on WW2, consider doing the Normandie Niemen squadron - Free French pilots that were sent by De Gaulle to fight with the Red Air Force on the Eastern Front.
That's something I'm looking up
I saw a whole exhibit on that at the French Air and Space Museum. They even had a couple of the Migs they flew on display.
Planes of Fame airshow in California has a Yak-3 with those markings
"We fly with out fear!!! Fly aztec eagles fly!!!! Lt. Mondragón 201st Fighter Squadron "The Aztec Eagles"
GOOD ON YOU COMPADRE!
Mis respeto sir!
some of my best and closest friends was Mexican when I was stationed at Ft.Bliss .This made me think of them ,I really hope they are doing well where ever they are ,I would love to see them again .great video .Thank You !
I brought us together even more, married a filipina from Makati and I'm from Jalisco Mx. I love the Phillipines, cant wait to go back.
I'm Mexican and my girlfriend is from the Philippines:)
BTW, the 201st squadron still exists as part of the Mexican Air Force. With the retirement of the last F-5E fighters in 2017, there are no longer any jet fighters to fly. The 201st flies T-6C+ armed turboprop trainers, but there are moves afoot to replace the engines of the three F-5Es in storage and return them to squadron service. Even though Mexico has no real need for jet fighters, the history of the 201st almost demands that at least that squadron still fly fighters, even in a ceremonial role.
They are used in a counter-insurgency role, where the turboprops are just as effective.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel True, but the Mexicans still want to have some jet fighters for the 201st. Like I wrote, it's as much for a ceremonial role as any operational need.
Actually there's 3 f5 still operating they were brought back to service in 2018
@@JoseRamirez-yi5if I had heard they aquired rebuilt engines for three F-5s but hadn't heard they were actually back flying. They will only be useful for parade flying, but that's an important thing for Mexico.
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Wrong there's like 6 or 7 f5s flying
Great story of little known history. Thank you again for a great story.
Felicitaciones soy mexicano y soy egresado del Colegio del Aire y me dio mucho gusto saber mas de lo que hoy es la Fuerza Aerea Mexicana...saludos Amigo.
As a duel us Mexican certain currently living in war torn Mexico this is nice hearing that my people come from fighters hopefully we can overcome our current war thank you!
@albert hdz LOL xD
Hey! I suggested this one! Thanks, History Guy!
Great Job.
Thankyou Mr The History Guy for another fantastic episode of history. Cheers from downunder
I wish they would have taught this in US history in schools early on. I am 40 years old and this is the first I hear about this beautiful history. I am disappointed.
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One of the Brazilian P38 who fought in Italy, is now on display in a square near my home in Curitiba Brazil. Great airplane.
P-47 not P-38
P38s were made out of WOOD. Are you sure that one is the Original?
By the way thanks for bringing up the Potrero del llano as my great grandfather served in it when it sank, he still survived, after that many of his friends died in the second torpedo and he was assigned into the timonelle of the Uxmal, the now biggest merchant ship operational at that time, before he passed away he told our family many crazy stories he had! Also he told us that one night they loaded the ship full of gold and was sent into new york, it was full of the army of both countries and he was held at gunpoint not to say anything, he said that in just that One cargo ship they transfered from Mexico to the US about 13% of all the gold now in fort knox! So Mexico was in some shady stuff back then! Greetings from Mexico!
SU HISTORIA ES POCO CONOCIDA,FUE LA APORTACION DE MEXICO CON SU ORO PARA EL RESTABLECIMIENTO ECONOMICO DESPUES DE LA GUERRA,Y EN U.S.A.HABLAN MAL DE MEXICO.