Specialized Brain suspension is madness. It's a luxury product that works worse than cheaper forks and shocks. Brain suspension is great for: 1. marketing 2. pro XC riders who have their own mechanics and don't particularly care about suspension that works well 3. status 4. people who should be on a hardtail anyway and don't mind throwing cash in a dumpster
I am an XC rider and disagree entirely with you. I have been an Epic user since the 2014 versions, and I believe it's the reverse. I have had a single problem in the 3 models I had (I even had the RS1). My experience was always the contrary. The brain system is a peace of mind; I have the power of an HT bike and the comfort of a full sus.
Your perspective and analogy is spot on! The brain system, is a counterintuitive/ counteractive piston valve system with major flaws! I was a master Toyota technician for many years, plus Master ASE certified! Rode many XC and hard tail mountain bikes! Specialized need to redesign the system!
Fully agree. The fork kind of simulates a sticky badly maintained old damper. The rear suspension can work ok if it's regularly serviced and you don't mind the clunk you feel when it opens up.
Thank you - so close to buying one of these 2nd hand. Weighing up the pro's and cons for the brain system - will it work for me anyway because I'm tough, and surely, "it must be better than the hardtail?" Even had a chat to some guys at my local dealer bike shop ("Oh yeah, we know that guy, he just had his shockers serviced here recently, it's a small world!). This also helps explain why a $12K bike from 2018 is going for only $3.5 - $4 K now. Dissapointing, as I've been investing much time into researching it, but I think youi've saved me from a rather expensive mistake.
Currently have a 2012 M5 with a rear brain and it feels really good for more general getting around.. despite being designed with the mtb market in mind.. The absorbsion when hitting something big is more like a nice feature for general purpose riding. I don't use it for trail riding.
Completely agree with you. I have a 2018 model epic with brain 2.0, and it sucks. Every time the system fails, and the repair is very expensive. And I'm not mention the time to get the bike back. The service of maintaining it every 200 hours is nonsense. I'm pretty sorry I bought it. Specialized has simple ripped us with this bike.
Here in England, Specialized dealers stop supporting Brain parts and servicing after about 5 years. I had to get rid of my dads 2015 and 2017 Epic S-Works for this same reason. Proprietary suspension sucks
Video poster is lying in several things: Even in small country where I live there are SEVERAL companies which service BRAIN dampers with no issues. Also The damper is not analyzing any terrain and such BS, it just closes on slow rhytmic vibes from pedaling, so you can pedal with full cadency and there is no bumping! I have RS-1 with brain and it works perfectly! Comfy ride with no bumping from pedaling uphill!!!
Let me guess, you rode the epic in the parking lot. I have several mountain bikes and the Epic is awesome. Fast and efficient. My other bikes I'm always locking in and out. The epic doesn't rock you around. My other bike's suspension is way more bouncy.
I had this system for 3 years and I confirm your opinion is valid. Yet, I loved it a lot but I now own a 20 pound Race Hardtail and I will never go back to Brain.
I have brain front and rear and the only part of my body who doesnt like them are my legs. THEY BURN. SO FREAKING GOOD FEELING. I have ADHD and I just love it. Other thing that barely no body talks is the REGRESSIVE suspension. In other words, when you need suspension, you have it. it's full travel. No BS. Bailed me out countless times. It gets squishy when service is needed. All right, man. Even a Ferrari needs maintenance
Had a bunch of epics. The 1st one, 2010my. That initial knock made me leave it to full open and be done with it, but I was upset about carrying the brain extra 200g on the rear of the bike. Installed a Monarch 3P, and I was surprised to find that the comfort increased significantly. Then, a S-works, same year. Shock was shot, tried a service, came worse than it was. So the service side of it is also bad. Changed both the fork and shock on that one, Sid and Monarch. Now I've bought an Epic like in this video. Full open, missing the propedal of a normal shock, since no way I would activate the brain. So I went and bought an Evo, to just be done with the brains for good. To sum it up, the main issue is the knock. Weirdly enough, to switch between the open and locked, you need to descend from the bike, and that is way worse than a classic shock. Marketing, prolongued waaaaay too long.
Good luck getting the shock worked on. Our shop won't even take them anymore because parts and service parts aren't available. And Speclized will just give it back to you. Just like what's being said in this video
$12,000 bike with a electric taped tire tube to the frame. Hmm Crazy Talk that Specialized won’t be supporting the brain after 5 years. I find that heard to believe. If true, it’s terrible for them and the consumer.
Terrible indeed. It's not a big deal for most SWORKS buyers... that bike will be long gone by then. It's just not a good deal for the person that keeps bikes a long time or buys it second hand. More importantly than all that support or lack of, is the fact that the suspension is optimized to work worse than normal. If somebody wanted it that stiff there are better and cheaper ways to achieve it. It's good for parking lot test rides, that's all.
I've had 4 Epics, the one I have now is Brainless, its great, I don't use lockouts, It works just fine as is, the brain Epics, were ok, but when you want to preload one, sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, so sometimes you're flying with the bars in your face, othertimes it just feels like a fart, you get releif, but nothing comes out of it,, I guess its a bunch of shit.. LOL !!! LOVE MY lightened up 22 pound, EPIC EVO Expert, keep all the lock outs, I'm having too much without them...and I think I'l going faster then ever...
Just get the Evo and get remote lockouts. No hassle of the brain service crap and still has the efficiency of lockouts with a bit more travel/capability.
Just get an Epic Evo and change the damper and the rear shock for having a remote lock for nearly 800 euros. Its totally insane that remote lockout is not a default option on full sus xc bikes…
I am always keeping my brain shock on the open setting because I don’t like the “clunk” feeling and it is a little more harsh when it’s on the firmer setting.
Just posting that i have a brand new zero mile 35mm Charger Race Day 2 from a 2024 Sid Ultimate 2 position remote. Its for sale right now on pinkbike. Just for anyone looking for a damper with the lockout issue corrected or wants to do a BRAIN-ECTOMY. Fits 2021 + sid 35mm.
I never like the brain, just a lag of responsiveness. The thing with the brain, what it really is is for dumb down dampen adjustment. Most folks don't really know how to adjust dampeners properly and the brain is made as the run around for that.
You are totally right men. Anyway, the suspension is not working and price to fix, here in Brazil is so outrageous. Is there a way that I can improvise and make it a hard tale? Do you have any ideia of what can be done. I love the bike frame.
I was very close ro getting the Epic Expert, wasn't crazy over brain feature but glad I didn't feel comfortable while riding the bike, decided on a different Brand.
hi. nice video. i would get your feedback on the new 2023 Specialized Epic WC with the new suspension. is the new rear suspension any better? its very similar to trek.
I haven't had a chance to see one in person yet but I'm intrigued. I don't love the concept, honestly. I wish Spesh would just make the standard epic 100/100 non brain with stiff lockouts. It would be one thing if the frame was actually a fair bit lighter but it's so close I'd rather have the extra travel. I view it and the supercaliber as "a better hardtail" more than a total full suspension rig. And in that way, they're probably significantly better.... but at a big weight penalty. I also am very curious of the "zero sag" concept will make for a harsh top-out clunk or not. Time will tell!
So what recommendations do any of you have for replacing the rear brain shocks? Mine is bolted to the frame and not integrated into the frame like the one in your video.
Ok, so I found my solution, will post all the info of what I got for the replacement once I get it installed and can share pics. I was originally going to rebuild it, but you need some specialized tools and it's $179 to have the one company I found that rebuilds them.
Lockout levers are not reliable either, but at least I have total control over the input and easy to fix. How hard is it to just switch a lever? Specialized is just known to sell solutions to problems that don't exist. Could you just reverse engineer it and remove the brain system? Maybe change the shock? I bet changing it for a Sidlux shock wouldn't be much more expensive than sending the whole bike to Specialized to fix the brain system
It'll be similar but next time I have a LV bike in the shop, yes. For what it's worth, that system is even worse because it has similar performance downsides but its even more expensive.
Ha ha, your video was a forecast of 2024 EPIC, no more Brain…so it can only means that you were right all the way. Well done video…just for the sake of honesty, I had the first version on EPIC, aluminium frame, 26” wheels…it was just the most futuristic thing, it those days , full suspension bikes were still horrible , I think it was 2002 with v-brakes …shit, I realised I have been cycling for more than 20 years
Hi man, thats an amazing trust review, i have to day that you surprise me at this point; even more when you touch the point of live valve of giant anthem. If you remenber some video before, i was asking you for choose a crank set for one anthem that i was meaning to buy, and this week i supose to do that, but now i am a little skeptik about the purchase. In orden of that, Can you tell us whi you dont like eather the fox live valve in the anthem? This Will be a stuning thing for me, now i have three more options: bmc fourstroke 01 two, Trek supercaliber 9.8 xt, specialized Epic evo pro 2023. What do you thing.? ,Thanks and keep doing this thinks
Of those options that you listed, I'd opt for the Epic Evo first. Second choice would be the BMC which has a really good suspension platform. I don't like the Live Valve or Flight Attendant automatic systems because they're complex, heavier, more expensive, and ultimately leave the suspension working worse. I think standard lockouts are both more effective at being firm AND more active when open - the only downside is having to move the lever yourself. But that's such an easy thing to do that it has never bothered me. Those automatic systems rely on inertial valves and speed sensitive sensors. The marketing will tell you that they open faster than you could ever open them yourself except for one very important thing.... you don't wait to open the system in real time. You open it or close it before you want it. You have the most sophisticated vision system already on board (your own two eyes) and you can read the terrain long before those systems ever will. Live valve even went through an update to lessen the harshness from V1 so there's your admission....it's an inherently stiff system which was improved by making it less impactful. A further improvement would be removing it all together and using standard suspension.
@@DirtCraftMTB Hi man, good enough for me on that. I can say now that the marketing almost take me that way. So, one last question: Why first the Epic evo and second the bmc fourstroke? Thanks man, you are helping me a lot. This is the first time i get serius the opinión of someone else, i think you are very profesional here
I think the Epic has better geometry than the current BMC. But of course that is subjective too. It's not going to be drastically different but the Specialized will be a little more stable and composed in rough stuff. The new 2023 BMC is pretty close to identical geometry wise so at that point, it's a toss up based on weight, cost, and availability. I do think the BMC looks better 🙂
@@DirtCraftMTB thanks man. The think is that un muy country the disponiblity(Colombia) is only over the bmc fourstroke 01 two 2022(the versión with vertical shock), and the Epic pro 2023 are getting new in the market. With you advise , i think onenif those i can get Will be fit on me. I do like a lot the pedalling and the maratons, so even the bmc can get an upgrade to 120mm rear and front; and the evo i think It would do that as great too. Will see. Thanks a lot man, in a week or less i Will tell you what i purchase
I bought a second hand Specialized Epic 2013 (in mint condition), but for a very affordable price. It's my starter bike, but I feel like it works fairly well, but it feels like it's very springy and the back wheel feels unstable in the turns, as if the back wheel is delated (it isn't). Any tips on what I can do for fixing this problem?
Add rebound damping to the rear shock. You might also have too much pressure in the shock but either way, you need to slow the rebound down. (Turn the dial clockwise)
Great explanation! But these bikes are race bike not squish -squish bikes. So it’s not the suspension that’s the problem it’s the people who buy them. Don’t get Brain bikes if you’re not a racer!
Hey man, You got everything right, its pretty stupid actually the front fork I had already swap into a standard sid ultimate 120mm and it works much smoother. But I'm stuck with the rear suspension (end up using it fully open unless I know is a super smooth terrain) what a stupid design; I've already tried it in the firm position in a very long and steep decesnt and I only got 20% of travel working.... brainless indeed. Thanksfullly now there are a couple of aftermarket yokes. I think flight attedent might be a good update. But haven't seen anyone with it yet. Don't know if the battery will hit the bottle cage.... It's not on the official page. So i'll have to wait and see...
😂 Hey, I'm over here trying to SAVE my customers money and hassle, thank you. If you think it works brilliantly that's great for you. I happen to like and recommend suspension that's always functioning.
You don't have anything to say about specialized selling a bike that only promises service for 5 years (while not providing means for bike shops, shock manufacturers, or consumers to do the work themselves)? You might be right, and you certainly have a right to express how you FEEL...but it's a silly and agro to tell the guy how he feels and not accept that he could have a different opinion. Here I am with a Stumpjumper FSR brain on firmest setting that's bobbing (more like bucking) to hell, and I wish it just had a standard shock system with a good ol' "pedal platform." It feels like a vintage Cannondale Super-V, maybe worse... PS: The extra unsprung weight on the back wheel is also a significant disadvantage to the suspension dynamics...
Specialized Brain suspension is madness. It's a luxury product that works worse than cheaper forks and shocks.
Brain suspension is great for:
1. marketing
2. pro XC riders who have their own mechanics and don't particularly care about suspension that works well
3. status
4. people who should be on a hardtail anyway and don't mind throwing cash in a dumpster
I am an XC rider and disagree entirely with you. I have been an Epic user since the 2014 versions, and I believe it's the reverse. I have had a single problem in the 3 models I had (I even had the RS1). My experience was always the contrary. The brain system is a peace of mind; I have the power of an HT bike and the comfort of a full sus.
As long as you're convinced, that's all that matters for you.
Your perspective and analogy is spot on! The brain system, is a counterintuitive/ counteractive piston valve system with major flaws! I was a master Toyota technician for many years, plus Master ASE certified! Rode many XC and hard tail mountain bikes! Specialized need to redesign the system!
For me it works fine and I believe it is a great system.
@@pauljohnston269 @gteles007,
How about service time?
@@adriant.7457 had the bike some time not had it done yet. So dont know.
Fully agree. The fork kind of simulates a sticky badly maintained old damper. The rear suspension can work ok if it's regularly serviced and you don't mind the clunk you feel when it opens up.
Thank you - so close to buying one of these 2nd hand. Weighing up the pro's and cons for the brain system - will it work for me anyway because I'm tough, and surely, "it must be better than the hardtail?" Even had a chat to some guys at my local dealer bike shop ("Oh yeah, we know that guy, he just had his shockers serviced here recently, it's a small world!). This also helps explain why a $12K bike from 2018 is going for only $3.5 - $4 K now. Dissapointing, as I've been investing much time into researching it, but I think youi've saved me from a rather expensive mistake.
I have it and to me it rocks- saves messing around. Just ride and enjoy.
Currently have a 2012 M5 with a rear brain and it feels really good for more general getting around.. despite being designed with the mtb market in mind.. The absorbsion when hitting something big is more like a nice feature for general purpose riding. I don't use it for trail riding.
Completely agree with you. I have a 2018 model epic with brain 2.0, and it sucks. Every time the system fails, and the repair is very expensive. And I'm not mention the time to get the bike back. The service of maintaining it every 200 hours is nonsense. I'm pretty sorry I bought it. Specialized has simple ripped us with this bike.
Here in England, Specialized dealers stop supporting Brain parts and servicing after about 5 years. I had to get rid of my dads 2015 and 2017 Epic S-Works for this same reason. Proprietary suspension sucks
Video poster is lying in several things: Even in small country where I live there are SEVERAL companies which service BRAIN dampers with no issues. Also The damper is not analyzing any terrain and such BS, it just closes on slow rhytmic vibes from pedaling, so you can pedal with full cadency and there is no bumping! I have RS-1 with brain and it works perfectly! Comfy ride with no bumping from pedaling uphill!!!
It definitely works on vibes 😂😂
Yeah, you're sending your vibes to pedals while riding the bike and Brain senses your vibes to give back!
your criticism is absolutely correct. then everyone can say what he wants.
Let me guess, you rode the epic in the parking lot. I have several mountain bikes and the Epic is awesome. Fast and efficient. My other bikes I'm always locking in and out. The epic doesn't rock you around. My other bike's suspension is way more bouncy.
Sounds like you need to adjust your rebound.
I had this system for 3 years and I confirm your opinion is valid. Yet, I loved it a lot but I now own a 20 pound Race Hardtail and I will never go back to Brain.
I have brain front and rear and the only part of my body who doesnt like them are my legs. THEY BURN. SO FREAKING GOOD FEELING. I have ADHD and I just love it.
Other thing that barely no body talks is the REGRESSIVE suspension. In other words, when you need suspension, you have it. it's full travel. No BS. Bailed me out countless times. It gets squishy when service is needed. All right, man. Even a Ferrari needs maintenance
Haha, you know what.... thats cool too if you love it. There's room for every opinion here 😄. I'm glad it's working for ya!
Had a bunch of epics.
The 1st one, 2010my. That initial knock made me leave it to full open and be done with it, but I was upset about carrying the brain extra 200g on the rear of the bike. Installed a Monarch 3P, and I was surprised to find that the comfort increased significantly.
Then, a S-works, same year. Shock was shot, tried a service, came worse than it was. So the service side of it is also bad. Changed both the fork and shock on that one, Sid and Monarch.
Now I've bought an Epic like in this video. Full open, missing the propedal of a normal shock, since no way I would activate the brain. So I went and bought an Evo, to just be done with the brains for good.
To sum it up, the main issue is the knock.
Weirdly enough, to switch between the open and locked, you need to descend from the bike, and that is way worse than a classic shock.
Marketing, prolongued waaaaay too long.
Good luck getting the shock worked on. Our shop won't even take them anymore because parts and service parts aren't available. And Speclized will just give it back to you. Just like what's being said in this video
$12,000 bike with a electric taped tire tube to the frame. Hmm Crazy Talk that Specialized won’t be supporting the brain after 5 years. I find that heard to believe. If true, it’s terrible for them and the consumer.
Terrible indeed. It's not a big deal for most SWORKS buyers... that bike will be long gone by then. It's just not a good deal for the person that keeps bikes a long time or buys it second hand. More importantly than all that support or lack of, is the fact that the suspension is optimized to work worse than normal. If somebody wanted it that stiff there are better and cheaper ways to achieve it. It's good for parking lot test rides, that's all.
I work with specialized, they still service brain systems 2014 and older.
Nah man i gotta disagree. The brain is an amazing shock till today. But yeah it's a headache to service and all, that's why we have brain surgeons.
I've had 4 Epics, the one I have now is Brainless, its great, I don't use lockouts, It works just fine as is, the brain Epics, were ok, but when you want to preload one, sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, so sometimes you're flying with the bars in your face, othertimes it just feels like a fart, you get releif, but nothing comes out of it,, I guess its a bunch of shit.. LOL !!! LOVE MY lightened up 22 pound, EPIC EVO Expert, keep all the lock outs, I'm having too much without them...and I think I'l going faster then ever...
XC-IFY 😂😂😂 I dont know man, i get thst they were trying something new but I love having my lockout! I dont mind the extra lever ! Good review man!
Just get the Evo and get remote lockouts. No hassle of the brain service crap and still has the efficiency of lockouts with a bit more travel/capability.
Just get an Epic Evo and change the damper and the rear shock for having a remote lock for nearly 800 euros. Its totally insane that remote lockout is not a default option on full sus xc bikes…
I am always keeping my brain shock on the open setting because I don’t like the “clunk” feeling and it is a little more harsh when it’s on the firmer setting.
That's what I've experienced while riding it. Definitely not what I like personally....
Can it be turned off? So that the suspension works every time?
Just posting that i have a brand new zero mile 35mm Charger Race Day 2 from a 2024 Sid Ultimate 2 position remote. Its for sale right now on pinkbike. Just for anyone looking for a damper with the lockout issue corrected or wants to do a BRAIN-ECTOMY. Fits 2021 + sid 35mm.
I never like the brain, just a lag of responsiveness. The thing with the brain, what it really is is for dumb down dampen adjustment. Most folks don't really know how to adjust dampeners properly and the brain is made as the run around for that.
You are totally right men. Anyway, the suspension is not working and price to fix, here in Brazil is so outrageous. Is there a way that I can improvise and make it a hard tale? Do you have any ideia of what can be done. I love the bike frame.
I would just get a new aftermarket yoke and standard shock.
I was very close ro getting the Epic Expert, wasn't crazy over brain feature but glad I didn't feel comfortable while riding the bike, decided on a different Brand.
Smart choice IMO
hi. nice video. i would get your feedback on the new 2023 Specialized Epic WC with the new suspension. is the new rear suspension any better? its very similar to trek.
I haven't had a chance to see one in person yet but I'm intrigued. I don't love the concept, honestly. I wish Spesh would just make the standard epic 100/100 non brain with stiff lockouts. It would be one thing if the frame was actually a fair bit lighter but it's so close I'd rather have the extra travel. I view it and the supercaliber as "a better hardtail" more than a total full suspension rig. And in that way, they're probably significantly better.... but at a big weight penalty. I also am very curious of the "zero sag" concept will make for a harsh top-out clunk or not. Time will tell!
@@DirtCraftMTB thanks for quick reply! do you have any chance to test the 2023 Specialized Epic WC?
@@Gerald-iz7mv hopefully this summer
So what recommendations do any of you have for replacing the rear brain shocks? Mine is bolted to the frame and not integrated into the frame like the one in your video.
Email me a photo ridedirtcraft@gmail.com
I have the same problem, do you have any recommendation to eliminate the brain?
At least one company makes a drop in linkage that allows the use of a standard eyelet shock. That's the way to go.
Ok, so I found my solution, will post all the info of what I got for the replacement once I get it installed and can share pics. I was originally going to rebuild it, but you need some specialized tools and it's $179 to have the one company I found that rebuilds them.
It's light and only saving the carbon frame from hard impact try...
I agree. It's rubbish. As a specialized EPIC owner. $500 AUD for a service every 12 months.AVOID!
Lockout levers are not reliable either, but at least I have total control over the input and easy to fix. How hard is it to just switch a lever? Specialized is just known to sell solutions to problems that don't exist.
Could you just reverse engineer it and remove the brain system? Maybe change the shock? I bet changing it for a Sidlux shock wouldn't be much more expensive than sending the whole bike to Specialized to fix the brain system
Agreed. That's what I'd do if I got stuck having to fix it for myself. Buy a standard rear shock and regular damper for the fork and swap it all in.
Thats easy to do, get a Epic EVO....
Hey, can you do a video of breaking down the problems of Fox Live Valve? Thanks!
It'll be similar but next time I have a LV bike in the shop, yes. For what it's worth, that system is even worse because it has similar performance downsides but its even more expensive.
Meh! Works fine if you set it up correctly.
BRAIN is a golden grail!
Ha ha, your video was a forecast of 2024 EPIC, no more Brain…so it can only means that you were right all the way. Well done video…just for the sake of honesty, I had the first version on EPIC, aluminium frame, 26” wheels…it was just the most futuristic thing, it those days , full suspension bikes were still horrible , I think it was 2002 with v-brakes …shit, I realised I have been cycling for more than 20 years
Hi man, thats an amazing trust review, i have to day that you surprise me at this point; even more when you touch the point of live valve of giant anthem.
If you remenber some video before, i was asking you for choose a crank set for one anthem that i was meaning to buy, and this week i supose to do that, but now i am a little skeptik about the purchase.
In orden of that, Can you tell us whi you dont like eather the fox live valve in the anthem?
This Will be a stuning thing for me, now i have three more options: bmc fourstroke 01 two, Trek supercaliber 9.8 xt, specialized Epic evo pro 2023.
What do you thing.? ,Thanks and keep doing this thinks
Of those options that you listed, I'd opt for the Epic Evo first. Second choice would be the BMC which has a really good suspension platform.
I don't like the Live Valve or Flight Attendant automatic systems because they're complex, heavier, more expensive, and ultimately leave the suspension working worse. I think standard lockouts are both more effective at being firm AND more active when open - the only downside is having to move the lever yourself. But that's such an easy thing to do that it has never bothered me.
Those automatic systems rely on inertial valves and speed sensitive sensors. The marketing will tell you that they open faster than you could ever open them yourself except for one very important thing.... you don't wait to open the system in real time. You open it or close it before you want it. You have the most sophisticated vision system already on board (your own two eyes) and you can read the terrain long before those systems ever will.
Live valve even went through an update to lessen the harshness from V1 so there's your admission....it's an inherently stiff system which was improved by making it less impactful. A further improvement would be removing it all together and using standard suspension.
@@DirtCraftMTB Hi man, good enough for me on that. I can say now that the marketing almost take me that way.
So, one last question:
Why first the Epic evo and second the bmc fourstroke?
Thanks man, you are helping me a lot. This is the first time i get serius the opinión of someone else, i think you are very profesional here
I think the Epic has better geometry than the current BMC. But of course that is subjective too. It's not going to be drastically different but the Specialized will be a little more stable and composed in rough stuff. The new 2023 BMC is pretty close to identical geometry wise so at that point, it's a toss up based on weight, cost, and availability.
I do think the BMC looks better 🙂
@@DirtCraftMTB thanks man.
The think is that un muy country the disponiblity(Colombia) is only over the bmc fourstroke 01 two 2022(the versión with vertical shock), and the Epic pro 2023 are getting new in the market.
With you advise , i think onenif those i can get Will be fit on me. I do like a lot the pedalling and the maratons, so even the bmc can get an upgrade to 120mm rear and front; and the evo i think It would do that as great too. Will see.
Thanks a lot man, in a week or less i Will tell you what i purchase
Sounds good! Let me know what you end up with.
I bought a second hand Specialized Epic 2013 (in mint condition), but for a very affordable price. It's my starter bike, but I feel like it works fairly well, but it feels like it's very springy and the back wheel feels unstable in the turns, as if the back wheel is delated (it isn't). Any tips on what I can do for fixing this problem?
Add rebound damping to the rear shock. You might also have too much pressure in the shock but either way, you need to slow the rebound down. (Turn the dial clockwise)
Yes buy a hardtail
Great explanation! But these bikes are race bike not squish -squish bikes. So it’s not the suspension that’s the problem it’s the people who buy them. Don’t get Brain bikes if you’re not a racer!
Hey man, You got everything right, its pretty stupid actually the front fork I had already swap into a standard sid ultimate 120mm and it works much smoother. But I'm stuck with the rear suspension (end up using it fully open unless I know is a super smooth terrain) what a stupid design; I've already tried it in the firm position in a very long and steep decesnt and I only got 20% of travel working.... brainless indeed. Thanksfullly now there are a couple of aftermarket yokes. I think flight attedent might be a good update. But haven't seen anyone with it yet. Don't know if the battery will hit the bottle cage.... It's not on the official page. So i'll have to wait and see...
Hello
What's the difference between Evo and standard frame of Specialized StumpJumper? Thank you
For the stumpjumper, the evo is just longer travel.... no weird gadgets or anything involved.
can you change the damper in the fork out or are they also Specialized (ha) ?
Yes.... you could change the fork damper and at least get that end functioning normally. The uppers and lowers are standard rockshox.
I have s-work epic fsr world cup 2017 model i want to swap rear shox can you recomment me fox or rockshox
Both of their inline options are pretty good. I prefer the DPS but the Sid Luxe is solid too. Either one will serve you well.
so if this is bad why is specialized the most successful team right now?
Because they pay the most to get the best athletes.
go for evo!!
Totally disagree, it works brilliant in all conditions. You don't like it because you don't make money out of it.
😂 Hey, I'm over here trying to SAVE my customers money and hassle, thank you. If you think it works brilliantly that's great for you. I happen to like and recommend suspension that's always functioning.
Yes....I would feel like you too,if I was stupid enough to drop $12K on the bike
You don't have anything to say about specialized selling a bike that only promises service for 5 years (while not providing means for bike shops, shock manufacturers, or consumers to do the work themselves)?
You might be right, and you certainly have a right to express how you FEEL...but it's a silly and agro to tell the guy how he feels and not accept that he could have a different opinion.
Here I am with a Stumpjumper FSR brain on firmest setting that's bobbing (more like bucking) to hell, and I wish it just had a standard shock system with a good ol' "pedal platform." It feels like a vintage Cannondale Super-V, maybe worse...
PS: The extra unsprung weight on the back wheel is also a significant disadvantage to the suspension dynamics...
Specialized make only overpriced crap these days