Haha thanks for the kind words! The R930 is not compatible at all with GPUs technically, and the R730XD may or may not work. I can try that one, but it needs to swap a couple of the PSUs from the R930 to allow GPUs. I need to find a better solution for render workers. I think something like a BOXX system or a threadripper PC with a few 4090 might be a good bet, but they are too expensive for this exact moment in time.
Yeah for sure. These CPUs are 135 Watts each, so 540 Watts total at full bore. I think the biggest argument for them is the unlimited RAM. I want to try a newer server sometime to see if the efficiency if better (it should be), and I am going to build a server for multi-gpu applications as well.
It is probably 60 decibels, maybe more. The fans run on full because I installed an 18 watt GPU (NVS 310) and it does not like that. The PCIE slots in the R930 are limited to 25 watts, so they are made for NIC devices and storage expansion only. So the bios is programmed to get angry if it sees a GPU in there haha.
I'm thinking without any mistake that , the whole community of renders designers are watching this channel undoubtedly, although I'm 5K Miles away from the Minotaurus homeplace.🤷
Thank you! I am always happy that people find value in my videos. I have had many more view on here than I ever expected when I started. I am grateful to have you here!
@@ContradictionDesign Reason is U have different approach. While people give blender benchmark score you gave actual render time for GPU. People report comparison between current selling article, You brought old server in discussion. That's how U stand apart 👍
@@ContradictionDesign would you recommend me an affordable renderer farm link that supports OBJ files (Sweet Home interior design 3D) that charge by work or files?
@@DavidMaynardClark I have not used other render farms personally. And I have not used that software either, although if it is packed and everything, Blender could possibly run the renders too. So I can not recommend another farm, since I haven't used them. I would be open to rendering for you, if your scenes are able to run in Blender.
The amount of memory is a big deal. And it would be cool to see some fluid simulations. Smoke simulations can easily max out the memory on a GPU. But also just the time it takes to do the fluid sims. It might not be faster than the 7950X, but maybe.😅
Yeah I need to get another big SSD for the cache, but some server simulations would be awesome. Even if it is not super fast, having all the RAM you need and enough storage for huge bake files would just make it work flawlessly. I have used more than 1 TB for a bake before on my desktop. I don't know what to expect about the speed, but we will see!
4060 ti and 7800 xt bounce around the same in Blender, with the 4060 ti winning 3 times and 7800 xt winning once out of four in benchmark scenes. I have heard that the AMD GPUs are better at unreal engine than they are at blender, but I cannot confirm it yet. I have been learning unreal slowly so I'll be able to test it eventually but not yet. But I don't have a 7900 gre. It should be just a little faster than the 7800 xt. So it is probably a wash between the 4060 Ti and the 7900 GRE
Great video man. I have 3 desktops that i would like to use as a render node. The thing you mentioned past videos was the amount of instances and software to get it working correctly. I have a 9950x/4090, 5950x/3090, and 5700x/4070. I use Maya, substance painter, zbrush, marvelous designer, and other software. New to this but would like to use blender as a renderer since it's free. I haven't set up a network drive yet or folder. Or if i should just add a dedicated cheap pc or Nas to save all files in. How should I do it to make it easier? My plan is to render 3pcs while working/sleeping and use the 5700/4070 while the other 2 render. I am also part of a free render community farm called sheeptit for blender. So that will also save allot of time
@@NovaaGrind I used an old PC with a shared hard drive for a long time. I now use a server, but it's the same idea. This is a good way to do it simply. And connect your network to all other PCs and you'll be good to go
@@NovaaGrind I would only use raid for a backup, but not for speed. Otherwise just get a second SSD for backups, and copy your files every now and then. RAID can be complicated and risky, and not really worth it for normal file storage. For speed I would just recommend to at least use SATA ssds. If you have multiple read/write events at a time, an HDD will be a bottleneck. But you can use an SSD for the working drive for the render files, and use a large HDD for backup
@@ContradictionDesign Thanks man I appreciate the info. I'll buy a couple nvme and SSDs as you said for write speed. And use HDD for back up storage. This network PC will be over 24/7 so I hope nothing dies since it's old lol. Are you going to get the 5090? I would love to see benchmarks how it scales with current hardware.
@NovaaGrind I will try to get it. But it might be out of stock for a long time, and at scalped prices as well. But I am also hoping for more info on the next generation of pro GPUs. Nvidia may have a 96 GB workstation card this time. So I may take a car sized loan for one of those instead haha. I will do what I can though.
Is there any way of you helping me do this video on blender, it is a blurry and needs to be focused by vfx l think it is. I am asking anyone for help please🤷♂️
So it is footage that you captured, and it is blurry? I have a software called Topaz AI that might be able to help clean it up. I am not sure how I would do it with Blender though.
For sure. I am getting pretty excited to see what the 5090 or titan will be like. It will be hundreds of times faster for rendering than this old server, as long as the scene fits in VRAM.
I would love to have one of those. It would absolutely destroy my r930 by a lot. However, my price list for a 7995wx setup puts it close to $15k, so there's no way I can afford one at the moment. It would be incredible to have though
I managed to get 192Gb of DDR5 working with my 7950x, but made a mistake and bought cheap mobo and didn't know it doesn't support OC (I mainly wanted high capacity RAM, everything else was secondary at that time). There's a Reddit thread that made me to go for 192Gb with 7950x and they claim OC is possible with this RAM kit. So I wonder, how much I'll be able to push it when I'll get new mobo. And I read somewhere 256Gb is also possible, but at least at that time, I haven't found any 256Gb kit available where I live (mid EU). 192Gb RAM in question is: Corsair Vengeance 192GB (4x48GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MT/s CL38 Memory Kit CMK192GX5M4B5200C38 XMP: CL 38-38-38-84 SPD: CL 40-40-40-77
Yeah all I have been hearing and seeing is that high capacity kits are very difficult to use with Ryzen 7000. There are few if any kits that have EXPO support with 4 sticks of ram too. I think the 800 series motherboards will help with it a little, but you still may need to custom OC the RAM. But 192 GB in a desktop platform is a huge deal. I am glad we are getting more high capacity options over time! Let me know how it works, because I have often pondered a RAM upgrade for my system.
i want to build a server for vfx. but im not sure what i can get for 2,000 dollars. I want to build it for making live action scenes of my favorite anime. and the only way to do that is with a render farm.
If you already have a workstation, then you can focus on building a render machine. If not, I would focus on a strong workstation that could render over night for you. I would say rack servers might be more difficult to work with, and they may not be what you want to start with. I would prioritize a new 16 core CPU like the 9950X, with a 4070 Ti Super or higher. If you need a bunch of storage space, a NAS device is probably easier to deal with than a server too. If you want me to build a PC on PCPartpicker, I can do so. Just let me know what your current hardware is, and if you are just looking to add a render PC or extra storage.
bro i hit the jackpod! this channel is gold , i allways needed these data, can you test these servers with gpu rendering ?
Haha thanks for the kind words! The R930 is not compatible at all with GPUs technically, and the R730XD may or may not work. I can try that one, but it needs to swap a couple of the PSUs from the R930 to allow GPUs.
I need to find a better solution for render workers. I think something like a BOXX system or a threadripper PC with a few 4090 might be a good bet, but they are too expensive for this exact moment in time.
Great review...Power consumption would be a consideration.
Yeah for sure. These CPUs are 135 Watts each, so 540 Watts total at full bore. I think the biggest argument for them is the unlimited RAM.
I want to try a newer server sometime to see if the efficiency if better (it should be), and I am going to build a server for multi-gpu applications as well.
ive wanting to get a new cpu and was thinking about this exact scenario. thanks for the test :)
You are welcome! Let me know if you have questions
Welcome back! Great video!
Hey thanks! I am trying to get back to it. I'm excited!
Great video, love the data. Boy is that thing loud 😂
It is probably 60 decibels, maybe more. The fans run on full because I installed an 18 watt GPU (NVS 310) and it does not like that. The PCIE slots in the R930 are limited to 25 watts, so they are made for NIC devices and storage expansion only. So the bios is programmed to get angry if it sees a GPU in there haha.
I'm thinking without any mistake that , the whole community of renders designers are watching this channel undoubtedly, although I'm 5K Miles away from the Minotaurus homeplace.🤷
Thank you! I am always happy that people find value in my videos. I have had many more view on here than I ever expected when I started. I am grateful to have you here!
@@ContradictionDesign Reason is U have different approach. While people give blender benchmark score you gave actual render time for GPU. People report comparison between current selling article, You brought old server in discussion. That's how U stand apart 👍
@@Bholu-y1d Thanks! I am just here to help and to learn as well.
@@ContradictionDesign would you recommend me an affordable renderer farm link that supports OBJ files (Sweet Home interior design 3D) that charge by work or files?
@@DavidMaynardClark I have not used other render farms personally. And I have not used that software either, although if it is packed and everything, Blender could possibly run the renders too. So I can not recommend another farm, since I haven't used them.
I would be open to rendering for you, if your scenes are able to run in Blender.
The amount of memory is a big deal. And it would be cool to see some fluid simulations. Smoke simulations can easily max out the memory on a GPU.
But also just the time it takes to do the fluid sims. It might not be faster than the 7950X, but maybe.😅
Yeah I need to get another big SSD for the cache, but some server simulations would be awesome. Even if it is not super fast, having all the RAM you need and enough storage for huge bake files would just make it work flawlessly. I have used more than 1 TB for a bake before on my desktop.
I don't know what to expect about the speed, but we will see!
Rx 7900gre or rtx 4060ti for blender and unreal engine which one is good?
4060 ti and 7800 xt bounce around the same in Blender, with the 4060 ti winning 3 times and 7800 xt winning once out of four in benchmark scenes. I have heard that the AMD GPUs are better at unreal engine than they are at blender, but I cannot confirm it yet. I have been learning unreal slowly so I'll be able to test it eventually but not yet.
But I don't have a 7900 gre. It should be just a little faster than the 7800 xt. So it is probably a wash between the 4060 Ti and the 7900 GRE
Great video man. I have 3 desktops that i would like to use as a render node. The thing you mentioned past videos was the amount of instances and software to get it working correctly. I have a 9950x/4090, 5950x/3090, and 5700x/4070. I use Maya, substance painter, zbrush, marvelous designer, and other software. New to this but would like to use blender as a renderer since it's free. I haven't set up a network drive yet or folder. Or if i should just add a dedicated cheap pc or Nas to save all files in. How should I do it to make it easier? My plan is to render 3pcs while working/sleeping and use the 5700/4070 while the other 2 render. I am also part of a free render community farm called sheeptit for blender. So that will also save allot of time
@@NovaaGrind I used an old PC with a shared hard drive for a long time. I now use a server, but it's the same idea. This is a good way to do it simply. And connect your network to all other PCs and you'll be good to go
@ContradictionDesign Nice I will do that as well. I have an old PC for Nas 2700x/1080ti and upgrade storage. Should I use raid or not?
@@NovaaGrind I would only use raid for a backup, but not for speed. Otherwise just get a second SSD for backups, and copy your files every now and then. RAID can be complicated and risky, and not really worth it for normal file storage.
For speed I would just recommend to at least use SATA ssds. If you have multiple read/write events at a time, an HDD will be a bottleneck. But you can use an SSD for the working drive for the render files, and use a large HDD for backup
@@ContradictionDesign Thanks man I appreciate the info. I'll buy a couple nvme and SSDs as you said for write speed. And use HDD for back up storage. This network PC will be over 24/7 so I hope nothing dies since it's old lol. Are you going to get the 5090? I would love to see benchmarks how it scales with current hardware.
@NovaaGrind I will try to get it. But it might be out of stock for a long time, and at scalped prices as well. But I am also hoping for more info on the next generation of pro GPUs. Nvidia may have a 96 GB workstation card this time. So I may take a car sized loan for one of those instead haha.
I will do what I can though.
Is there any way of you helping me do this video on blender, it is a blurry and needs to be focused by vfx l think it is.
I am asking anyone for help please🤷♂️
So it is footage that you captured, and it is blurry? I have a software called Topaz AI that might be able to help clean it up. I am not sure how I would do it with Blender though.
For Render work it's better to wait for the RTX 5090
For sure. I am getting pretty excited to see what the 5090 or titan will be like. It will be hundreds of times faster for rendering than this old server, as long as the scene fits in VRAM.
Whats about a AMD Threadripper 7995 WX Pro ?
I would love to have one of those. It would absolutely destroy my r930 by a lot. However, my price list for a 7995wx setup puts it close to $15k, so there's no way I can afford one at the moment. It would be incredible to have though
Wait until 10th of October: The 7995 Successor Shimada Peak will be introduced by AMD
@@Tiuhuanaca oh really? That is exactly! Hopefully there are some deals soon then!
I managed to get 192Gb of DDR5 working with my 7950x, but made a mistake and bought cheap mobo and didn't know it doesn't support OC (I mainly wanted high capacity RAM, everything else was secondary at that time). There's a Reddit thread that made me to go for 192Gb with 7950x and they claim OC is possible with this RAM kit. So I wonder, how much I'll be able to push it when I'll get new mobo.
And I read somewhere 256Gb is also possible, but at least at that time, I haven't found any 256Gb kit available where I live (mid EU).
192Gb RAM in question is:
Corsair Vengeance 192GB (4x48GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MT/s CL38 Memory Kit
CMK192GX5M4B5200C38
XMP: CL 38-38-38-84
SPD: CL 40-40-40-77
Yeah all I have been hearing and seeing is that high capacity kits are very difficult to use with Ryzen 7000. There are few if any kits that have EXPO support with 4 sticks of ram too. I think the 800 series motherboards will help with it a little, but you still may need to custom OC the RAM.
But 192 GB in a desktop platform is a huge deal. I am glad we are getting more high capacity options over time! Let me know how it works, because I have often pondered a RAM upgrade for my system.
i want to build a server for vfx. but im not sure what i can get for 2,000 dollars. I want to build it for making live action scenes of my favorite anime. and the only way to do that is with a render farm.
If you already have a workstation, then you can focus on building a render machine. If not, I would focus on a strong workstation that could render over night for you. I would say rack servers might be more difficult to work with, and they may not be what you want to start with. I would prioritize a new 16 core CPU like the 9950X, with a 4070 Ti Super or higher. If you need a bunch of storage space, a NAS device is probably easier to deal with than a server too.
If you want me to build a PC on PCPartpicker, I can do so. Just let me know what your current hardware is, and if you are just looking to add a render PC or extra storage.