TactiCon - The challenge of designing the core game loop of strategy games

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • More than with any other game genre, the design process for strategy games is uniquely challenging when it comes to building the "core game loop" or getting to the "fun experiences" of it when creating them. How does it impact the production of new experiences with the strategy genre and how does the developer overcome it?
    Heart of the Machine: store.steampow...
    Great Houses of Calderia: store.steampow...
    HUMANKIND: store.steampow...
    Old World: store.steampow...
    Chris M. McElligott Park (He/Him) - ar...
    Arcen Games, LLC
    Indie game developer since 2009, after an early career in business software. Started out creating the cult classic AI War: Fleet Command, which press described as a "grand strategic tower defense RTS." Not wanting to get pigeonholed as a strategy developer, immediately moved into the puzzle genre, which turned out to be too casual. From there had a lot more success with 2D platformers (before they were cliche), Metroidvania and Contralike, and then tactics, simulation, RPG, adventure, city-builder, god game, roguelike, SHMUP, more 4X, more RTS. Currently working on Heart of the Machine with Hooded Horse publishing, which is a mix of strategy, tactics, and colony sim.
    Jussi Autio (He/Him) - Ga...
    Resistance Games
    Jussi is a business-oriented game designer with over 16 years of experience. As a game designer, he is heavily mechanics driven although special aching in the tooth is how mechanics can facilitate new ways of narrative. He's also a big history lover and has a 12-hour long series on history of games - from stone age to space age.
    William "Wilbefast" Dyce (He/Him) - wi...
    Amplitude Studios
    A recovering game-jam addict from Canberra, Australia, William moved to Southern France in 2008 to complete an MSc in theoretical computer science, specializing in artificial intelligence. Having worked as an R&D engineer in the serious games space, William moved to Paris to do gameplay programming for PC, mobile, and console titles before joining Amplitude Studios.
    William has been at the studio for 7 years now, joining the team to work on Endless Legend and Endless Space 2 expansions, laying the foundations for Humankind as the first designer on the project, and finally taking over as Lead Designer. He loves strategy video and board-games, ballet, cooking, walking, and psychology, among other things.
    Soren Johnson (He/Him) - So...
    Mohawk Games
    Soren Johnson is Design Director at Mohawk Games, an independent studio dedicated to making deep and innovative strategy games, where he led the design of the economic RTS Offworld Trading Company and the character-focused 4X Old World. While at Firaxis Games, he designed Civilization IV, one of the highest-rated strategy games of all time. He was also the co-designer of Civilization III, lead designer of Dragon Age Legends, and a senior designer on Spore. Soren is a frequent speaker at industry conferences, was a design columnist for Game Developer Magazine, and is a member of the GDC Advisory Board. He holds a bachelor’s degree in history and a master’s degree in computer science from Stanford University. His podcast and thoughts on game design can be found at www.designer-notes.com.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 11

  • @gregory-of-tours
    @gregory-of-tours 10 місяців тому +11

    Amazing to get a peak inside the discussions that create these games! Really like the discussion about whether (or more, how much) the AI should be asymmetrical. I think this is why I haven't liked recent civ games and one of the reasons I like Old World. Civs I to IV to me felt like playing inside a simulation. V and especially VI feel like you're playing an overly complex board game. To me the AI being deliberately asymmetrical and a part of the simulated world is far more immersive than when they act like another human playing the game. I play for the simulation of growing a civilization, not for a simulation of playing human opponents.

  • @jamesrivettcarnac
    @jamesrivettcarnac 7 місяців тому +4

    40:56 the killing of worlds
    I love that book

  • @christophercotton7149
    @christophercotton7149 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for getting these developers together! Really cool discussions!

  • @SleepDepJoel1
    @SleepDepJoel1 3 місяці тому +1

    Really enjoyed this talk, thank you so much for sharing! Excellent game design nuggets.

  • @johnhershberg5915
    @johnhershberg5915 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video. What a rare opportunity to see how the sausage is made

  • @siidaf
    @siidaf 9 місяців тому +2

    very deep and intersting conversation, thank you

  • @sjwarialaw8155
    @sjwarialaw8155 5 місяців тому +2

    I completely agree on CK3, unless one really enforces self.imposed_rules, the game is boring. Just breed great characters with lots of congenital skills, then just hire the best characters for the positions you want, keep some money to hire mercenaries to crush any rebellion because AI doesn't account for that possibility, conquer conquer conquer...
    That's why I made a mod that would hide almost all congenital traits from the player, plus certain congenitals I made them much more common, and much weaker, attraction traits for example are just ridiculously overpowered.

  • @jamesrivettcarnac
    @jamesrivettcarnac 7 місяців тому +3

    Civ 4 is best civ

  • @Dakikakipuno
    @Dakikakipuno Місяць тому +1

    He / Him / Lol