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  • Top 50 of rises / improvements in betting odds compared to the official results in Eurovision Grand Finals 2011-2021. Odds were taken during the live shows before the voting.
    IMPORTANT: The betting odds placings are based on the outright market. If a country is placed 10th it doesn't mean the exact predicted place is 10th but otherwise it's not possible to create a video like this. Odds of Top 10 / 15 could be slightly different but not far away from the outright market.
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  • @PlatinSam
    @PlatinSam  3 роки тому +79

    The betting odds placings are based on the outright market. If a country is placed 10th it doesn't mean the exact predicted place is 10th but otherwise it's not possible to create a video like this. Odds of Top 10 / 15 could be slightly different but not far away from the outright market. Odds were taken during the live shows before the voting.

    • @max-5876
      @max-5876 2 роки тому

      But the difference between 26 and 13 is zero. Both >1%. So wouldn’t it be better to do a % ranking difference? So the 2% that got third gets the 12% that the third got - 2% is 10 points.

  • @alexstefan2740
    @alexstefan2740 3 роки тому +271

    A Balkan nation with a song in the native language
    Bookies: Let's put that last

    • @celular-contaprincipaligor9368
      @celular-contaprincipaligor9368 2 роки тому +13

      You're right. The nunber of Balkan Countries sending good music, but been putting in the last place it's simply UNBELIVEBLE!

  • @mrmountainman7128
    @mrmountainman7128 3 роки тому +527

    Moldova consistantly outperforming expectations

    • @Aliren380
      @Aliren380 3 роки тому +33

      Europe! Ow!

    • @peeryoutube
      @peeryoutube 3 роки тому +9

      It’s called overrated

    • @timschmieder6312
      @timschmieder6312 3 роки тому +11

      And Albania as well i think

    • @sylvain_3
      @sylvain_3 3 роки тому +36

      @Alex Erhan It's called Kirkorov and diaspora.

    • @peeryoutube
      @peeryoutube 3 роки тому +13

      @Alex Erhan This years song ended way too high. In my opinion it didn’t even deserve to qualify. The only song I liked from Moldova was from 2017 and 2018.
      Oh yeah and that has nothing to do with the country itself, just saying

  • @mickystam521
    @mickystam521 3 роки тому +129

    So how many times were you underestimated?
    Albania and Moldova: Yes

    • @x_n_x_gal9161
      @x_n_x_gal9161 11 місяців тому

      Two best countries in ESC by far

  • @WethleyPL
    @WethleyPL 3 роки тому +335

    So Lithuania is just waiting for Donny Montell being 11 in odds

    • @vladd896
      @vladd896 3 роки тому +36

      @Rebecca Woolf not exactly, I think he meant Donny Montel ending exactly 10 places above expectations twice(!), so based on that if they send him 3rd time and he will be 11th on odds he will actually end up 11-10= in the first place winning the contest

  • @kepapathanas
    @kepapathanas 3 роки тому +90

    The odds had Greece 2011 at 23rd? OMG that's so awkward if you think they actually won the semi, and got 3rd place in the final televoting..

  • @fesclix4147
    @fesclix4147 3 роки тому +111

    Kind of satisfying to see that the odds have always been a mess and not just these days

    • @wwhy6569
      @wwhy6569 Рік тому +4

      The odds are not a mess. They are correct in the long run.

  • @esccyprus
    @esccyprus 3 роки тому +204

    Can we all agree that PlatinSam is the best esc youtuberl?
    Literally he did an amazing work👏

  • @MBrix-up2wi
    @MBrix-up2wi 2 роки тому +18

    Man, our guy Cesár really said "F**k your odds and give me my 12 points." What a king.❤️👍🇦🇹

  • @giovanniscg8540
    @giovanniscg8540 3 роки тому +118

    I still can't believe that the UK in 2018 was ranked higher than Italy, Austria and Moldova according to the odds

    • @pmfrank2034
      @pmfrank2034 3 роки тому +27

      It happened just because of the ,,invasion" during her performance. She was I believe 24th before the show

    • @Tarkris
      @Tarkris 3 роки тому +11

      It happened during the show , following the stage invasion people thought she would get sympathy votes but she didn't

    • @tmdgcmct9756
      @tmdgcmct9756 3 роки тому +10

      @@Tarkris i feel like she did. she would’ve been last if she didn’t. but she didn’t get enough to get her past 24th.

    • @Tarkris
      @Tarkris 3 роки тому +3

      @@tmdgcmct9756 Yeah , I could agree to that. But she didn't really get much Televote points.

    • @giovanniscg8540
      @giovanniscg8540 2 роки тому

      @@pmfrank2034 but also Spain 2010 got an invasion, but the odds kept stable around 16th if I'm not wrong

  • @angelosvlahos
    @angelosvlahos 3 роки тому +15

    2:41 the whistle note in Crno i Belo is actually iconic

  • @ggoddf5889
    @ggoddf5889 3 роки тому +77

    what about songs that were high in odds but didnt even qualify. like belgium and greece 2018

    • @HimeFunny
      @HimeFunny 2 роки тому +1

      Finland 2015 was placed 5th and didnt qualify

  • @michellesmirnova4471
    @michellesmirnova4471 3 роки тому +84

    I do believe that it’s more accurate to talk about flops than rises, since odds are based on who people predict will win. And I understand why most people didn’t predict that these would win, mostly because a lot of these were “safe” and “basic”, although good. I’m aware you made a video about flops and what you mentioned in the pinned comment, this isn’t against the video or anything, I just wanted to give that piece of mind!

    • @PlatinSam
      @PlatinSam  3 роки тому +27

      Indeed, in this ranking it's even more difficult. Albania and Serbia are good examples. In some cases placed 26th to win but in a betting market who's finishing last they won't be the favourite because diaspora votes save them no matter what song it is.

    • @Mikowmer
      @Mikowmer 3 роки тому

      @@PlatinSam So there isn't a betting market for who will get last?

    • @PlatinSam
      @PlatinSam  3 роки тому +1

      Of course there is, but how to show this in one video if there are many other markets Top 5 / 10 / 15 / Last...

    • @mikahamari5994
      @mikahamari5994 2 роки тому +1

      You are correct, only the winners of each year are relevant in this comparison, because they are winning odds. The biggest riser is the winner whose betting position was the worst.
      But thanks for the creator of this video, this is also interesting point of view. :)

    • @KyrieFortune
      @KyrieFortune 11 місяців тому

      people have asked for this video tho

  • @neadod2902
    @neadod2902 2 роки тому +19

    I never understand why the bookies always put Albania like pretty much last🤷🏻‍♀️. They always send high quality songs and really good singers

  • @escaustargirl
    @escaustargirl 3 роки тому +15

    Donny really said “fuck the odds”

  • @filipgrmsek
    @filipgrmsek 3 роки тому +16

    That's why NEVER trust odds... Except for winner (last 2 editions)...
    Odds underrate the Balkans so hard every year😵😓

    • @nicodex592
      @nicodex592 2 роки тому

      So true, Albania especially ...

  • @milanmigi5427
    @milanmigi5427 3 роки тому +30

    Odds really hates Montenegro and Albania... Lol

  • @cabemaru1
    @cabemaru1 3 роки тому +14

    In brief, moldova, albania, lithuania, italy

  • @przemeq9476
    @przemeq9476 3 роки тому +26

    Austria in 2018 being top 3 is something that no one would have guessed

    • @bastosbastos5835
      @bastosbastos5835 3 роки тому +6

      No one ever could have guess the jury would love it that much for no apparent reasons. First by the jury when Israel, Cyprus or Italy were right there 😭

    • @kiertavasirkus
      @kiertavasirkus 3 роки тому +6

      @@bastosbastos5835 Italy was robbed by the jury that year

  • @sillybeing4450
    @sillybeing4450 3 роки тому +38

    4:17 Ah Michał Szpak.. he was robbed soo much, still hurts

    • @user-mx3xw1hb3q
      @user-mx3xw1hb3q 13 днів тому

      He robbed Margaret in the national final so that’s what he deserved

  • @orangebear280
    @orangebear280 3 роки тому +27

    Next - biggest rises in the final comparing to the semi-final

  • @italialainenkissa4116
    @italialainenkissa4116 2 роки тому +8

    I know this opinion is unpopular but... I did like italy 2011. Like, a lot. Sue me but it is what it is.

    • @batmatt6844
      @batmatt6844 2 роки тому +3

      I still think that it was one of the only good entries that year.

  • @gg454lune
    @gg454lune 3 роки тому +8

    I'm happy "Proud" beat the odds. It was my winner in 2019.

  • @eivind6713
    @eivind6713 3 роки тому +10

    2011 the most entertaining year ever. So many flops and so many surprises.

  • @ronweasley6585
    @ronweasley6585 3 роки тому +14

    waiting for moldova 2021

    • @crabrave8979
      @crabrave8979 3 роки тому +4

      The fact it was predicted 12th SF and qualified at 7th

    • @Ok-rz8ml
      @Ok-rz8ml 3 роки тому +3

      @@crabrave8979 and Israel was predicted 11th in SF and finished 5th lmao

  • @freyaschenberg1225
    @freyaschenberg1225 3 роки тому +6

    albania 2018 is quite possible one of my favourite eurovision acts , but man was i shocked when they actually qualified !

    • @dylangmail75
      @dylangmail75 3 роки тому

      same, one of my favorite entries of all time

  • @nexahs1
    @nexahs1 2 роки тому +4

    Bookies really be putting Kirkorov songs last when he's never finished anywhere except the left side of the board.

  • @AlexxxDaFuq
    @AlexxxDaFuq 2 роки тому +8

    Albania 4 times in this list, truly the dark horse of this competition😌

    • @Tv-qj2xm
      @Tv-qj2xm 2 роки тому +1

      Or the most underrated country in odds

    • @davidmaresginer6592
      @davidmaresginer6592 2 роки тому

      @@Tv-qj2xm is Moldova. Albania wasn't underestimated in 2015

  • @taniaishere
    @taniaishere 2 місяці тому +1

    Ah, our lovely Maya Sar with Korake ti znam. I still listen to it. Such a beautiful and strong song. 🇧🇦❤️

  • @orangebear280
    @orangebear280 3 роки тому +8

    Bookmakers hate Donny Montell...

  • @archigal
    @archigal 2 роки тому +2

    Zala and Gasper are one of my favorite entries ever. I'm still listening to their songs, I'm so happy they participated. Joci Papai too

  • @okmackan2054
    @okmackan2054 3 роки тому +11

    Hey mama being underrated that makes me feels sad

  • @DimDDG
    @DimDDG 3 роки тому +5

    Moldova 🇲🇩❤️❤️

  • @MikeKobela
    @MikeKobela 3 роки тому +24

    5:30 SUUS? ALBAMOGUS?????

    • @mb-176
      @mb-176 3 роки тому

      SUUSSY BAKA 😳🤪

  • @GergoMarosvari
    @GergoMarosvari 3 роки тому +15

    It seems like that Europe "didn't count us" a few times.
    (Hungary)

  • @esciveta5507
    @esciveta5507 3 роки тому +19

    love this type of video!

  • @12irissu14
    @12irissu14 3 роки тому +3

    My Favorites
    Popular (Sweden 2011) - 6 Pionts
    My Lucky Day (Maldova 2018) - 6 Points
    Shine (Russia 2014) - 6 Pionts
    Love Kills (Belgium 2013) - 8 Points
    Running on Air (Austria 2017) - 8 Points
    Love Me Back (Turkey 2012) - 8 Points
    Don't Come Easy (Australia 2017) - 8 Points
    Karma (Albania 2021) - 10 Points
    Last Dance (Greece 2021) - 10 Points
    Friend of A Friend (Czech Republic 2018) - 10 Points
    Hey, Mamma (Maldova 2017) - 10 Points
    Nobody But You (Austria 2018) - 12 Points
    Proud (North Macedonia 2019) - 12 Points
    Higher Ground (Denmark 2018) - 12 Points
    When The Music Dies (Azerbaijan 2012) - 12 Points
    Mall (Albania 2018) - 12 Points
    Russian Woman (Russia 2021) - 12 Points
    Suus (Albania 2012) - 12 Points

  • @escamante9785
    @escamante9785 3 роки тому +22

    Imagine having 20 places difference when the max u could have in 2011 were 24
    *Damn*
    BTW everyone complains Azerbaijan won in 2011,but is not like if they were last in odds, they were 4, which is very solid comparing that the one getting second was 22 in odds lmao

    • @animeandgamealex3331
      @animeandgamealex3331 3 роки тому

      Actually 25

    • @escamante9785
      @escamante9785 3 роки тому

      @@animeandgamealex3331 no 24 bc there were 25 participants, and if you got the maximum possible difference, which would be being 25 in odds and ending up first or the other way around then the difference would be 25-1=24 or 1-(-25)=24
      So yeah Italy was 4 away of having the biggest possible difference :D

    • @animeandgamealex3331
      @animeandgamealex3331 3 роки тому

      @@escamante9785 thanks. Now i understand

    • @animeandgamealex3331
      @animeandgamealex3331 3 роки тому

      @@qoobfoodisnotgood7457 but there still 10 places difference

    • @joelatkin1214
      @joelatkin1214 3 роки тому +3

      And they still deserved 1st place rather than 2nd

  • @otromambo6431
    @otromambo6431 3 роки тому +27

    Don't understimate the power of ballads lol
    I miss Moldova's crazy performances

    • @mtsg3761
      @mtsg3761 2 роки тому +3

      Another crazy performance this year that performed above expectations 😭 I wish my country the UK could just send crazy entries sometime

  • @fabianpardo9734
    @fabianpardo9734 3 роки тому +1

    I don’t know but I love the video quality of esc 2018. By the way good job

  • @x_n_x_gal9161
    @x_n_x_gal9161 11 місяців тому +1

    Jonida Maliqi was so painfully underrated it still hurts. That song had all of Albania's spirit in it, and I'm not even Albanian.

  • @FranscescaStam
    @FranscescaStam 3 роки тому +3

    Poland 2016 was my fave ever

  • @jojoelio5537
    @jojoelio5537 3 роки тому +2

    Albania 2018. I love you Eugent ❤️❤️❤️

  • @viggohelander5131
    @viggohelander5131 3 роки тому +5

    Could you please make a video of the biggest surprise qualifiers based on the odds? I think that would be interesting.
    Great vid btw!!

  • @musicislife2492
    @musicislife2492 3 роки тому +6

    Maybe a bad idea, but what if you make the top matched songs by the odds and in the results? Will there be 15 songs?

  • @BiBi-kw3no
    @BiBi-kw3no 3 роки тому +6

    Odds really hates Moldova every single year 🤦 not saying about 2021(cause it wasn't the favorite of MANY people) but seriously??? 2011,2012,2013,(2014-2016 didn't qualified), 2017, 2018, (2019 didn't qualified)??? Like really???
    These odds really understimates Moldova just thinking it's a small country so it won't place high

  • @colin4962
    @colin4962 3 роки тому +19

    Moldova is always underrated 🤷‍♂️🇲🇩...but why?

    • @DimDDG
      @DimDDG 3 роки тому +8

      Idk but I am proud of my country 🇲🇩❤️

    • @colin4962
      @colin4962 3 роки тому +5

      @@DimDDG Moldova is such a beautiful country, I really want to visit it after this pandemic again 🇲🇩
      Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪🤝🇲🇩

    • @DimDDG
      @DimDDG 3 роки тому +3

      @@colin4962 oh thx so much, it's rare to see people who want to visit Moldova :)
      I've been to Frankfurt before (I live in Belgium 🇧🇪 but I’m Moldovan 🇲🇩) but I really want to visit Germany in detail, it's a big country and there is still many things to see !! Especially when I go to Moldova in the summers by car, I go through Germany and I see beautiful cities
      Greetings from your Belgian neighbor and a Moldovan guy 🇧🇪🇲🇩❤️🇩🇪

    • @munchermuncher7663
      @munchermuncher7663 3 роки тому +2

      @@colin4962 i want a win for moldova

    • @DimDDG
      @DimDDG 3 роки тому +1

      @@munchermuncher7663 me too

  • @simonri9634
    @simonri9634 3 роки тому +3

    Can I just say that countdown was so pretty!

  • @nacht98
    @nacht98 3 роки тому +8

    Austria for me is the true winner of 2018. What a song and what a performer!

  • @somethung8188
    @somethung8188 2 роки тому +4

    Nobody but you? 20th? Have the bookies LOST THEIR MIND?

  • @robotwars666
    @robotwars666 3 роки тому +4

    serhat 26th in odds serhat after gettin 19th na na na
    iam also suprised itlay was so low in the odds in 2011

  • @Thunderworks
    @Thunderworks 3 роки тому +6

    They really put Austria 2018 at the 20th place ? They are deaf lol

  • @lukaszs.4158
    @lukaszs.4158 2 роки тому +2

    Cleo & Michał 🥰🥰🥰

  • @fabb4i2
    @fabb4i2 3 роки тому +3

    Some of the things predicted look so unreal now.

  • @ASamuel89
    @ASamuel89 3 роки тому +2

    can you make a video of the biggest changes between countries results in the semi finals and the finals?

  • @p.qmorik9207
    @p.qmorik9207 3 роки тому +6

    Eurovision 2011 was such a mess...

    • @isabelsilva1367
      @isabelsilva1367 3 роки тому

      Good songs, great lyrics and great ritms so is a really hard to predict where every song will be placed and you need to cont whit the juris

  • @nomiforslund4781
    @nomiforslund4781 3 роки тому +2

    The guy who is in the front looks like Daniel Radcliffe😂
    3:21

  • @corneliuguritanu3020
    @corneliuguritanu3020 3 роки тому

    Nice seeng and songs from 2021

  • @dominikr8428
    @dominikr8428 2 роки тому +4

    Another proof that 2011 was a hot mess and the winner was just a cherry on top ☠️

  • @nicodex592
    @nicodex592 2 роки тому +3

    2011 again, worst placings for betting odds XD

  • @Hustle127
    @Hustle127 4 дні тому +1

    Italy 2011 and Russia 2021 truly deserved

  • @annokiplik8306
    @annokiplik8306 3 роки тому +10

    I dont know if i should be worried or proud about Moldova

  • @corneliuguritanu3020
    @corneliuguritanu3020 3 роки тому +2

    Moldova the underdogs,the dark horse

  • @jorgefuenmayor2314
    @jorgefuenmayor2314 3 роки тому +3

    you can make a ranking with the contestant who placed better than their first attempt, like poli genova or natalia gordienko.

  • @ohandthefracking
    @ohandthefracking 3 роки тому +4

    i really have a question as to why Greece 2011 was THAT low lmfao??

  • @the11382
    @the11382 2 роки тому

    It seems there's a weak correlation between jury and televoting disagreeing and the betting odds being off.

  • @spingol5850
    @spingol5850 2 роки тому +1

    Did someone notice that they used the same background on lithuania 2012 as the flag parade in 2021? The same style at least.

  • @fabb4i2
    @fabb4i2 3 роки тому +4

    So apparently it's a good thing to be placed #26, #24 or #19 in the odds lol.

    • @nicodex592
      @nicodex592 2 роки тому +2

      26th, you can only place better or equal ^^

  • @nixalk1
    @nixalk1 2 роки тому

    How popular was meant to be 10th while it was the winner of the semi final?

  • @tmdgcmct9756
    @tmdgcmct9756 3 роки тому +6

    Kirkorov songs aren’t UNDERRATED by the bookies. They know that they aren’t good but for SOME reason they always end high in the grand final itself. we all know what’s going on.

    • @timschellekens7967
      @timschellekens7967 3 роки тому +2

      It’s so obvious that Kirkorov is “acquaintances” with juries of several countries.

  • @PK-xr1gb
    @PK-xr1gb 2 роки тому

    The Top 5 is amazing! (except Austria)

  • @anonimous9540
    @anonimous9540 3 роки тому +17

    I am glad Nataliya did so well. Her performance was pure fun, her personality is everything plus that 17second note... Totally deserved!

  • @DaveVampireSlayer
    @DaveVampireSlayer 2 роки тому

    Moldova: Hold my pronostics!
    Albania: Bookmakers 😘
    Italy: I end those men's carrers!

  • @masmusic4669
    @masmusic4669 3 роки тому +8

    Why is Albania the queen of these odds?

    • @sandroribeiro7644
      @sandroribeiro7644 3 роки тому +2

      Because before the show odds always puts them last or near last, doesn't matter if the song is good or bad

  • @mangomochi9847
    @mangomochi9847 2 роки тому

    What does "odds" mean

  • @methylithium
    @methylithium 3 роки тому

    Donny Montell two times here 😀

  • @AlexandrTheGreatt
    @AlexandrTheGreatt 26 днів тому

    Now the biggest rise was Moldova, who ended up in top 7 despite being in the odds on 25.

  • @screemingslay5415
    @screemingslay5415 3 роки тому

    It took me minutes to realize that those were ranks and not points, and I got confused as to why their results were so low yet it was successful.
    I am too new for this.

  • @melissa9905
    @melissa9905 3 роки тому +8

    Bookies always underrating Albania hugely

    • @wwhy6569
      @wwhy6569 Рік тому

      It does not underrating it, because if you see what happened, Albania didn't win.

  • @NuuSkye01
    @NuuSkye01 2 роки тому

    SEBI😭😭💕💕💕

  • @gvidasvalentukonis1652
    @gvidasvalentukonis1652 2 роки тому

    Lithuania just .... how much times we will be here more?

  • @q.hasnainasad5877
    @q.hasnainasad5877 3 роки тому

    Borat is from turkey?? 2012

  • @EAvaan2
    @EAvaan2 2 роки тому

    Eastern Europe really showing for good here!

  • @plebontheweb
    @plebontheweb 25 днів тому

    I remember austria 2014 being 200/1 before the competition to win. Big regret not betting on them then

    • @brianlynch8292
      @brianlynch8292 19 днів тому

      Are you for real fucking hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Conchita was that SUPPOSEDLY shit.
      Jaysus Bookmakers obviously don’t know shit.
      Conchita was out of this mothertucking world ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @achnix3167
    @achnix3167 2 роки тому +1

    Anxhela was 16th in the televote... just imagine

  • @xESCFR3AKx
    @xESCFR3AKx 3 роки тому +1

    Good job Donny lmao

  • @manuam98
    @manuam98 12 днів тому

    How the hell was Mall 24 in the odds??

  • @kaW3_4
    @kaW3_4 2 роки тому +1

    Pure Lithuania

  • @balanda23
    @balanda23 3 роки тому +1

    А где Лазарев??? В 2019 он был у буков 12, а стал 3

    • @user-dq6xw9kk4z
      @user-dq6xw9kk4z 3 роки тому

      Тут учитывается последний результат букмекеров, а последний результат Лазарева 8 место, можете сами посмотреть.

  • @koguma8823
    @koguma8823 3 роки тому +8

    jesus what do y'all have against albania

  • @raoultlam1549
    @raoultlam1549 28 днів тому

    Conclusion: the bookmakers cannot predict 26th place and they hate Moldova a lot and Albania as well

  • @__-qw8jn
    @__-qw8jn 2 роки тому

    Tamara so fuckin underrated!!!

  • @ronmedheuos
    @ronmedheuos 3 роки тому +1

    the odds at 2013 are sucks omg

  • @Lukas_vd
    @Lukas_vd 3 роки тому

    Well Austria and the nethetlands in 2014 both not in top 10 and 1st and 2nd

  • @miraniseini2931
    @miraniseini2931 3 роки тому +2

    basically every albanian song lol

  • @maczek_1892
    @maczek_1892 2 роки тому

    5:29 Amogus

  • @ionbalan7425
    @ionbalan7425 3 роки тому

    Moldova was 12th in 2011

  • @SpeedCheetah998
    @SpeedCheetah998 3 роки тому

    I thought moldovia was 25th

  • @user-vl8kw3nr5j
    @user-vl8kw3nr5j 2 роки тому +1

    What a shame to put watch my dance 23rd !

  • @sylvain_3
    @sylvain_3 3 роки тому +4

    I can rise too if Kirkorov buys a lot of the juries for me, because Moldova having 8 times 12 points in the semifinal... not even Salvador Sobral, Loreen, Mans...

    • @munchermuncher7663
      @munchermuncher7663 3 роки тому +3

      Voters underrated it and gave it votes thinking it won't be a threat while they didn't give votes to obvious qualfiers. As a result, Moldova rose