If you begin with more money, the FA will put you higher up the pyramid. Plus, this example is only for the South West, depending on your region there will be less divisions
I part own a club in the 13th tier of English football. It’s not been around for long but it’s gone through back to back promotions every year it’s been in existence I think. We’re doing well in the league this season and another promotion is on the cards, we’d be going up to Cheshire Division 1 (12th tier). It’s obviously a long journey but it’s worth it. If you have the financial backing and the right people in the right places, back to back promotions in the early days isn’t unrealistic. And when I say financial backing, I mean literally a few tens of thousands will give you a massive advantage over the other teams around you. Me and the other owners have fronted some cash and the club also has some sponsors. They use that money to hire out training facilities, equipment and a bunch of other stuff that the rest of the league don’t have easy access to.
Clubs like Wimbledon who were founded with a strong foundation of fans and comparative financial strength were placed by the FA much higher up to begin with. This example is taking a team from ROCK BOTTOM up to the very top
@@maherhamadouch2005 why are you saying it like it's something to be proud about it? "we didn't just jump the queue, we HAD TO FIGHT TO JUMP THIS QUEUE!"
It also depends on your clubs location AND financial strength when you register with the FA. This example is just for a team with hypothetically ZERO money starting in the most competitive region of the UK, Devon, the only county to have 9 regional divisions. Some have far less
The fact Devon has 9 tiers of football is insane. I haven't played in about 15 years and I feel like I could get a game for a midtable side in the Devon League 2.
The standard is actually very good in Devon, I know people that have moved away from here to London, Gloucester and up in the North and have all said that the standards better down in Devon.
Odd comment if you’ve not seen the standard in Devon. I don’t know if your any good but the standard in the Devon Prem was pretty decent 10 years ago, when we won it..
Y'all UK footballers don't understand how good you have it, you can be at any quality level and still have tons of options to play the sport you love with a team as an adult. Meanwhile in the US you stop playing in high school/college and you can't even FIND any organized leagues to save your life.
@@aiarta2280still counts nonetheless, ive always dreamed of playing pro but its not free to play here in the US like in europe. at one point my parents were paying $1500 a season and that got to be much so i couldn’t continue to go up the rankings and college football(soccer) is extremely hard and expensive to get in. at the end of it all im just gonna go to uni to study exercise sports science.
I live near a team called Redhill. Very low in the leagues but because they was an FA founded club they get invited to play in the FA cup every year. Stuff like this needs to stay in football.
@@BernardBrunu1Way of your own club, not a "career mode". Nobody wants to see Sheepshepards Little Church AFC getting from Huxstable Division 8 to Premier League. For example: The Isle of Man, Guernsey, and Jersey? All got small teams, the way they would compete you could compare to FC Sylt here. The translation should be English meanwhile. A businessman wanted to take a club from Westerland on the island of Sylt from around Lvl 8 to the "Bundesliga". Lvl 5 was the club disbanded. Too much ferry traveling, costs, long distance travels, less interest from viewers...
Amazing how thoroughly connected and tiered out the entire football league system is in England. As an American soccer (football) fan, this is something I want to scream at fellow Americans to understand. This, this, this is how you organize a sport. Relegation and promotion bring a passion and fight like no other to clubs
@Bensker it’s still a closed league though. kinda gets old watching the same teams year in and year out with nothing new to spice things up. you’ll never see a story in the NFL like Leicester City who got promoted to the Premier League and wound up winning it the following season they were promoted or Porto who despite having a smaller budget than the big European clubs still went on to conquer Europe. you don’t get any of that in American sports. and tbh the whole draft system is ridiculous and i’ll never understand why sports and education are even connected in the first place.
Conceivably, you're right. If you started out with no infrastructure and no plan beyond being a local football team, you'd start out at the bottom of your local county/district league. Dorking Wanderers are the best example of a team who started out in a local league and rose through the county ranks in neighbouring Sussex. Dorking FC went bankrupt and they moved into their ground, which helped them rise further. However, there is a difference between intermediate and senior football, though they don't really call them that anymore. Intermediate is Step 7 (level 11) downwards and senior football is Step 5 (level 9) upwards, with 6 being an uneasy buffer between the two. The discretionary element allows teams who are geared up for senior football to drop in at Step 6 or maybe even at Step 8. If you're a phoenix club and you have the stadium, they won't put you below Step 5. Macclesfield went in at Step 5, Chester and Halifax at Step 4. If you can guarantee fans and have a reasonable stadium (either own or have a long lease), they'll probably drop you in at Step 6, which is where a lot of these protest clubs have gone (FC United, AFC Liverpool, AFC Wimbledon). Good video though.
Damn... That's longer than watching your child grow up. But I hope that whoever is trying or fighting for this have all the support of his team, family, friends and partners.
Why? European sports, association club football specifically, are very locally bound cultural touchstones in society. In American sports teams move to different cities, fans don’t care and support whoever happens to represent their city that year and the leagues only care about making money. So American sports will never be like it because they lack the culture and loyalty that forms the foundation of this system.
@@SomeRandomGuy164 that's simply not true at the high school and college level. There is a ton of grassroots support for local teams and local players primarily play (only not true for major D1 colleges like Bama, even mid tier D1 colleges like Mississippi State and Iowa are primarily local players). Only our professional leagues are treated that way
@@SomeRandomGuy164 in the US high school and uni sports are very relevant (all future pro athletes play in schools, pro teams don't have an academy) so people who want to support their local team will support their local university for example. In pro sports in the US wealth is incredibly equally distributed and the no relegation stuff keeps every team relevant. I think it's way better that the currently worst team the NFL for example can go from the bottom to be a contender in just a span of few seasons with good management. In Europe, big teams are big because they have more money and the system is designed to keep them in power. Small teams have no chance to be big unless some rich sheikh buys them
This is so neat, I don’t know the quality of league 9 in Devon but it would be so cool to just form a team with your bros and be a part of the whole system
Fun fact: the worst team in all of England is called “racing mouse first”. They are at the bottom of their league in the Bristol downs football league. If they promoted every season it would take 24 years to get to the premier league
The amount of divisions in England always impresses me. And the fact that people care about their local teams and that games in lower divisions even have a crowd sometimes.
I wish we had a similar system. Even if it was just in terms of college football, I’d love to see my hometown team go from a tiny D3 school all the way up to a Big 10 contender. Would never happen, but I could dream.
well at least there is a clear, existing way of going up. In many countries, like Mexico, there is no organization to the amateur level, you just play. Here I can see there is a clear system, with structure steps. I'd prefer that.
Someone has probably already pointed this out but what league you are in doesn’t determine whether you are a professional, semi-pro or amateur team. It’s about how the players are paid. For example, all but 3 teams of the national league are professional and some national league north/south are professional teams.
I've played in those Devon leagues and the Devon premier is a high standard. You need to be a very good footballer to play in that league. It's physicaly hard and technically decent. League 8 obviously is not, it's for people who just play for fun. But I promise you that D&E Prem is way way higher standard that anyone reading this would imagine!
Wait that's a great idea. There need to be something other than promotions that make you go up divisions tho because I don't see how they would apply that to the game
@@thatsdope9571In the EA Managers there had been the possibility of Fusions for a while. A common example here is SpVgg Fürth - German Champions 19 before 45. And the "Tea village" Vestenbergsreuth. Who kicked out Bayern around 1992 in the DFB Pokal. The Club is named SpVgg Greuther (from Vesten...) Fürth. If you find a English translation about Helmut Hack, on Wiki, he was first Veste, and then long time at SPVgg the Chairman.
Went on a scout trip to Devon when I was living in France for a year when 13. Great place enjoyed cycling over the hills and watching the rubber duck races down the river
This is why I love our football pyramid because every hamlet, village,town, or city have multiple teams. I have several old school mates playing in the southern premier league for clubs like Wimborne Town Fc etc.
I am convinced everyone in England plays football cause man that is so many leagues and teams...and also if I lived in England there would be a team for me, which makes me happy
I would say 1 in every 3 men in the UK plays for a team, Sunday league football is literally ingrained in the country. Me being an 18 year old playing against grown men builders and plasterers still hungover from the night before was hilarious.
Obviously its not all that practical, but the idea that its even possible is kind of romantic, and it makes me wish American sports had a similar system. Well, that and a desire to see rival teams get relegated 😂
Was waiting for someone to post this fact.. you can jump leagues depending on good results, facilities etc.. same goes the other way. You will be capped at a certain point if you don't have scope for expansion
That depends on a number of factors: 1. The team's location 2. Financial strength 3. Whether the team was formed to replace a recently defunct team or not. Some teams can start directly from the National Team or League Two. There are teams in Germany, Italy, and Spain which started from the 3rd tier league.
In the Philippines, you are directly part of the top flight league for the next season once you pay your registration fee whether your team is from a defunct one or a literal new team.
RB Leipzig were already a team that was established in Germany that was bought by Red Bull and then renamed and re-imaged. Similar (but not the same) to MK Dons in UK. I'm almost certain England just has rules on Sponsors owning a club and changing their name/badge into what's basically an advert for the company.
@@Braindeadx16 Germany does too, the RB in Leipzig represents Red Bull however legally their name is RasenBallsport Leipzig which translates to grass ball sport iirc.
Yeah Red Bull pretty much just buys smaller professional teams in big leagues around the world to eradicate their club identity and history and rebrand them as a red bull billboard kicking a ball in a net
@@DeadZeppelin822 😂😂 they took a small failing 5th division club and in 8yrs brought them up to 1st Division while being a model club in the way it forms, buys, sells and is successful. My neighbours parents still live outside Leipzig and everyone loves the club there. The offended virgins who want purity can pound sand, fans dont care. They are way less offensive than the uber rich corporate club parasites which every year buys the best players from German teams... like Leipzig.
Nice to hear! Always thought that the "Pub league" or Sunday league would be Lvl 12 in England. Played myself in Munich in the last leagues. Our system was like C-Klasse ( Team II Most times) B-Klasse A-Klasse ( Starting first team's) Bezirksklasse Bezirksliga Bezirksoberliga ( might be, not too sure) Landesliga Bayernliga Regionalliga ( Amateurs) 3.Liga ( Pros) 2. Bundesliga 1.Bundesliga It is a matter of Region a little bit. But you get in around 7 till 9 years "straight up", like in your model.
I know what you said was completely hypothetical but even so it’s just impossible, say you start at the bottom as a 16yr old in the men’s team of a club, you get promoted every season for 15 years straight you’re gunna be 31 in the national league, even if you got to the prem you’d be 35-36, probably not playing and at the end of you’re career, still would be an amazing career though
@@nunyabusiness4682There are 2 Players here in Germany, who played in each of the 9 Levels First team in their Region. One got 3 games in the German Bundesliga around. Think it might be Werner Rank, at Augsburg.
Nice video. As well as other caveats mentioned. This also assumes you’re able to upgrade facilities accordingly to league standards. A team in the league my friend plays in couldn’t get promoted because they didn’t have their own permanent toilet facilities 😂
As an American citizen, this is absolutely mind-blowing to learn about! So in theory, somebody can start a league with their friends when they're teenagers and over the course of their adult lives, go from the lowest division in English football to the best football league in the world?! What?! That's wild to me.
But you would need to put millions if not billions of dollars/pounds into it. But in theory it is possible yes, just like in most other European countries when it comes to sports. You can always get promoted or demoted depending on your finishing position in a season
Do note that the realistic amount of time is never, but the nice thing is that there is s path. It's basically impossible for a local team to break into the highest level of pro sports because you're drawing from a tiny pool of people with no money to buy or retain genuine talent, but the fact that given enough skill and dedication it could be done is pretty nice.
The Southwest Premier Logo used in this video is actually the logo for SWPL in the United States and it makes up the 5th-7th tiers. The clubs are from the states of California, Nevada, & Arizona.
It's mental. Obviously these local leagues wont all have 8 tiers but when you think about if new clubs could ever compete we will never really see it cause amount of time.
This is a more realistic prediction, for me. So, the new club has some good players, but only a small of them are young, potential players. They do have a fine youth academy but not a lot of money. They will also never get relegated. This is the foundation for my stats. Devon Division 8 : 2 years (until promotion) Devon D7 : 1 year Devon D6 : 2 years Devon D5 : 1 year DD4 : 1 year DD3 : 2 years DD2 : 2 years DD1 : 2 years Devon Premier League (Let's call "Premier League" PL afterwards) : 2 years So the club took 15 years to exit the Devon Football League. Most older players have either retired or moved to other clubs. The entire team basically now has new players. Southwest Division One : 1 year Southwest PL : 3 years Southern Combination League : 2 years Southern League D One : 2 years SL Premier Division : 2 years National League South : 2 years Nat. League : 4 years League Two : 4 years League One : 3 years Championship to Premier League : 6 years. It took 44 seasons. Some footballers from the Devon Division 8 might passed already. And there's probably not a single trace of them either. If we count from 2023 then when the "new" club is in the PL then it has already been...2067.
It can be done far quicker than that if the new club successfully applies to start in Step 6 of the non league. This is not unheard of. Hashtag United started at Step 6 I believe.
You do realise thats not how it works- The NL North and NL South are the same tier of the pyramid, the difference is, the NL North is for teams in the north, the NL South is for teams in the south
Bury AFC are currently on this treadmill back, we have already won our 1st league, and are on track to win our second consecutive. Wish us look we need it. UTS.
I will say, there was a team who incorporated in Division 7, they went unbeaten with +127 goal difference and got promoted to Division 1 from 7. Going on to win Division 1 with ease in Devon.
Family friend did this about 5 years ago and did so well in their first season they were given a double promotion they then got stuck a year though cos of covid so have basically been promoted every year but seem unlikely to go up this year and have mayde it to i suppose 10 divisions below prem... It's really interesting to watch them develop
I’ve always wanted to own a football team but 10-19 years to become a pro team is crazy
If you begin with more money, the FA will put you higher up the pyramid. Plus, this example is only for the South West, depending on your region there will be less divisions
IF you get promoted every season
I part own a club in the 13th tier of English football. It’s not been around for long but it’s gone through back to back promotions every year it’s been in existence I think. We’re doing well in the league this season and another promotion is on the cards, we’d be going up to Cheshire Division 1 (12th tier). It’s obviously a long journey but it’s worth it. If you have the financial backing and the right people in the right places, back to back promotions in the early days isn’t unrealistic. And when I say financial backing, I mean literally a few tens of thousands will give you a massive advantage over the other teams around you. Me and the other owners have fronted some cash and the club also has some sponsors. They use that money to hire out training facilities, equipment and a bunch of other stuff that the rest of the league don’t have easy access to.
@@narwindunez thats why he put 10-19 years which is a big gap and pretty accurate
Bro really thinks he’s Ryan Reynolds huh 😂😂😂
Clubs like Wimbledon who were founded with a strong foundation of fans and comparative financial strength were placed by the FA much higher up to begin with. This example is taking a team from ROCK BOTTOM up to the very top
Dorking wanderers?
The FA didn't place us there, we had to fight to be placed there
@@maherhamadouch2005 why are you saying it like it's something to be proud about it?
"we didn't just jump the queue, we HAD TO FIGHT TO JUMP THIS QUEUE!"
@@ryan1111111555555555 no because we deserved to be directly in replacement of Wimbledon FC
@@maherhamadouch2005 deserved? why deserved?
Man city taking notes on how long it will take them to make it back to the prem 💀😭
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Man City will be renamed devon city 🤣
Haaland in the Lancashire Division 8 should be fun
@@IR._ 20-30 goals a game
@@IR._ he’ll prob end up leaving for Madrid or smth
It also depends on your clubs location AND financial strength when you register with the FA. This example is just for a team with hypothetically ZERO money starting in the most competitive region of the UK, Devon, the only county to have 9 regional divisions. Some have far less
Good that you've explained this because it sounded mental 🤣
How bout my home county of Cornwall?
@@lowencraft1404 It has a population of 6 and a half
What about london? I feel this would be very competitive
Fewer
The leagues aren't designed for team growth, they are designed for player growth.
Same thing
@@BrazilianImperialistnot at all
@@BrazilianImperialist Arguably the opposite.
The leagues are designed to accommodate all the teams we have
I think it's the opposite no??
The fact Devon has 9 tiers of football is insane. I haven't played in about 15 years and I feel like I could get a game for a midtable side in the Devon League 2.
I bet you can make it in league one
Sure bud, story up.
The standard is actually very good in Devon, I know people that have moved away from here to London, Gloucester and up in the North and have all said that the standards better down in Devon.
Odd comment if you’ve not seen the standard in Devon. I don’t know if your any good but the standard in the Devon Prem was pretty decent 10 years ago, when we won it..
Guessing because its further south its warmer and just has more people who play thus more competition.
I can feel an FM save coming on
That’s too long, imagine finally getting to the prem it’s 20 years in
Would be worth it LOL
There is an addon that adds up to 10th tier in English football.
@@Kushtahwhen in prem Mbappe, Haaland, etc already a coach
Y'all UK footballers don't understand how good you have it, you can be at any quality level and still have tons of options to play the sport you love with a team as an adult. Meanwhile in the US you stop playing in high school/college and you can't even FIND any organized leagues to save your life.
UK? All of Europe.
@@aiarta2280still counts nonetheless, ive always dreamed of playing pro but its not free to play here in the US like in europe. at one point my parents were paying $1500 a season and that got to be much so i couldn’t continue to go up the rankings and college football(soccer) is extremely hard and expensive to get in. at the end of it all im just gonna go to uni to study exercise sports science.
Your country does a pretty solid job tbh, especially considering football isn’t even a major sport there.
A town in England has multiple league system
Meanwhile my country can't even organize their own league
Devon isn’t a town, it’s a county
What country are you
@@BrazilianDaftPunkFan I hope you are aware this question is not for you... Anyway is there a football league there
Where are you from?
I live near a team called Redhill. Very low in the leagues but because they was an FA founded club they get invited to play in the FA cup every year.
Stuff like this needs to stay in football.
Oh how weird I’m in Redhill too
Nobody ever talks about our county so this feels like a personal shout out lmao
💪🏼💪🏼
Devon is a county that sticks out to me because of a fact I heard years ago, that it's the only county with 2 coastlines
Let's go cornwall
@@baconszwel7937 Cornwall does their scones wrong
Need this in Career Mode
Would be the best career mode ever
Trust me, ur going to get bored playing 19 seasons just to make the premier league
@@BernardBrunu1 yep but career mode would have to last like 40 Year's or something. So it would still be fun
So start your career at 18, and win the Premier League at 38
@@BernardBrunu1Way of your own club, not a "career mode". Nobody wants to see Sheepshepards Little Church AFC getting from Huxstable Division 8 to Premier League.
For example:
The Isle of Man, Guernsey, and Jersey?
All got small teams, the way they would compete you could compare to FC Sylt here.
The translation should be English meanwhile.
A businessman wanted to take a club from Westerland on the island of Sylt from around Lvl 8 to the "Bundesliga".
Lvl 5 was the club disbanded.
Too much ferry traveling, costs, long distance travels, less interest from viewers...
Amazing how thoroughly connected and tiered out the entire football league system is in England. As an American soccer (football) fan, this is something I want to scream at fellow Americans to understand. This, this, this is how you organize a sport. Relegation and promotion bring a passion and fight like no other to clubs
Yes can you imagine anyone being able to start their own local American football team they could dream of playing in the super bowl
@Bensker But that’s because the nfl is a closed of league. If it had promotions than it would be similar to that of the premier league
Corporate sports teams are terrified of relegation/promotion
@Bensker it’s still a closed league though. kinda gets old watching the same teams year in and year out with nothing new to spice things up. you’ll never see a story in the NFL like Leicester City who got promoted to the Premier League and wound up winning it the following season they were promoted or Porto who despite having a smaller budget than the big European clubs still went on to conquer Europe. you don’t get any of that in American sports. and tbh the whole draft system is ridiculous and i’ll never understand why sports and education are even connected in the first place.
So 40 different small splintered leagues that don’t cooperate with each other and don’t make money is how u run a sport🤨
Conceivably, you're right. If you started out with no infrastructure and no plan beyond being a local football team, you'd start out at the bottom of your local county/district league. Dorking Wanderers are the best example of a team who started out in a local league and rose through the county ranks in neighbouring Sussex. Dorking FC went bankrupt and they moved into their ground, which helped them rise further.
However, there is a difference between intermediate and senior football, though they don't really call them that anymore. Intermediate is Step 7 (level 11) downwards and senior football is Step 5 (level 9) upwards, with 6 being an uneasy buffer between the two. The discretionary element allows teams who are geared up for senior football to drop in at Step 6 or maybe even at Step 8.
If you're a phoenix club and you have the stadium, they won't put you below Step 5. Macclesfield went in at Step 5, Chester and Halifax at Step 4. If you can guarantee fans and have a reasonable stadium (either own or have a long lease), they'll probably drop you in at Step 6, which is where a lot of these protest clubs have gone (FC United, AFC Liverpool, AFC Wimbledon).
Good video though.
Good facts man I've never heard this before
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Damn... That's longer than watching your child grow up.
But I hope that whoever is trying or fighting for this have all the support of his team, family, friends and partners.
I wish American sports had anything remotely similar
Why? European sports, association club football specifically, are very locally bound cultural touchstones in society. In American sports teams move to different cities, fans don’t care and support whoever happens to represent their city that year and the leagues only care about making money. So American sports will never be like it because they lack the culture and loyalty that forms the foundation of this system.
@@SomeRandomGuy164 that's simply not true at the high school and college level. There is a ton of grassroots support for local teams and local players primarily play (only not true for major D1 colleges like Bama, even mid tier D1 colleges like Mississippi State and Iowa are primarily local players). Only our professional leagues are treated that way
@@SomeRandomGuy164 system change would help build that culture, currently it's just money shit.
@@SomeRandomGuy164 I can tell you’re just a hater who’s never watched any American sports huh
@@SomeRandomGuy164 in the US high school and uni sports are very relevant (all future pro athletes play in schools, pro teams don't have an academy) so people who want to support their local team will support their local university for example. In pro sports in the US wealth is incredibly equally distributed and the no relegation stuff keeps every team relevant. I think it's way better that the currently worst team the NFL for example can go from the bottom to be a contender in just a span of few seasons with good management. In Europe, big teams are big because they have more money and the system is designed to keep them in power. Small teams have no chance to be big unless some rich sheikh buys them
This is so neat, I don’t know the quality of league 9 in Devon but it would be so cool to just form a team with your bros and be a part of the whole system
Fun fact: the worst team in all of England is called “racing mouse first”. They are at the bottom of their league in the Bristol downs football league. If they promoted every season it would take 24 years to get to the premier league
The amount of divisions in England always impresses me. And the fact that people care about their local teams and that games in lower divisions even have a crowd sometimes.
the lower division clubs tend to have the most passionate fans too
I wish we had a similar system. Even if it was just in terms of college football, I’d love to see my hometown team go from a tiny D3 school all the way up to a Big 10 contender. Would never happen, but I could dream.
well at least there is a clear, existing way of going up. In many countries, like Mexico, there is no organization to the amateur level, you just play. Here I can see there is a clear system, with structure steps. I'd prefer that.
Someone has probably already pointed this out but what league you are in doesn’t determine whether you are a professional, semi-pro or amateur team. It’s about how the players are paid. For example, all but 3 teams of the national league are professional and some national league north/south are professional teams.
Graham Potter taking notes in reverse
Good one 😂😂😂
I've played in those Devon leagues and the Devon premier is a high standard. You need to be a very good footballer to play in that league. It's physicaly hard and technically decent. League 8 obviously is not, it's for people who just play for fun. But I promise you that D&E Prem is way way higher standard that anyone reading this would imagine!
Bro wtf in the premier League there are many trash Players.
@@ulrichk3677 I don't think you know what you're talking about
@@jamesfletcher474 you just don't understand, big difference
@@ulrichk3677wtf are you talking about
I’m interesting I’ve always wanted to see a lower league match
Can't wait for a rich Saudi prince to be bored and try the English League Speedrun in less than 19 years
They should put this whole thing in fifa Career mode, that would be incredibly fun
Wait that's a great idea. There need to be something other than promotions that make you go up divisions tho because I don't see how they would apply that to the game
@@thatsdope9571In the EA Managers there had been the possibility of Fusions for a while.
A common example here is
SpVgg Fürth - German Champions 19 before 45.
And the "Tea village" Vestenbergsreuth.
Who kicked out Bayern around 1992 in the DFB Pokal.
The Club is named SpVgg Greuther (from Vesten...) Fürth.
If you find a English translation about Helmut Hack, on Wiki, he was first Veste, and then long time at SPVgg the Chairman.
Being from Devon I found this a really nice vid cause you never see people talk about us 😂
Went on a scout trip to Devon when I was living in France for a year when 13. Great place enjoyed cycling over the hills and watching the rubber duck races down the river
My brother is actually named after Devon in England and he lives in the United States right now
I play in the Southern Combination League!!!
All the best to you bro, I hope you can play professionally someday. By the way do all these teams still play in the FA Cup or do they do qualifiers?
@@matthewhernandez8342 some of them play FA cup qualifiers but not at the proper lowest levels
Now this is a FIFA career mode I want 😂
I had dreams of forming my own team and then working our way up til we play in the EPL. But you just destroyed that dream
Not really if you start in a county with not many leagues
Devon has 9 leagues most would have like 4 or 5
Hashtag utd started in the 10th division in english football. Essex senior then isthmian d1 North then isthmian premier then national south.
This is why I love our football pyramid because every hamlet, village,town, or city have multiple teams. I have several old school mates playing in the southern premier league for clubs like Wimborne Town Fc etc.
I am convinced everyone in England plays football cause man that is so many leagues and teams...and also if I lived in England there would be a team for me, which makes me happy
I would say 1 in every 3 men in the UK plays for a team, Sunday league football is literally ingrained in the country. Me being an 18 year old playing against grown men builders and plasterers still hungover from the night before was hilarious.
@@hamzanocap 1 in 3 men is about 20million. My good sir your numbers are way off
@@hamzanocapone in three is too high
Always dreamt FIFA manager mode did something like this.
Just shows how good those professional football players are .
tottenham in the corner
Obviously its not all that practical, but the idea that its even possible is kind of romantic, and it makes me wish American sports had a similar system. Well, that and a desire to see rival teams get relegated 😂
Exactly! Could you imagine a system where the Cardinals could be sitting in St. Louis every year just praying for the Cubs to get sent now.🤣
Have to admit watching local rivals getting relegated is fun for workplace banter.
Being relegated feels like dying of shame and humiliation.
in devon you can go from the bottom division to top division in 1 season depending on your results and club size
Was waiting for someone to post this fact.. you can jump leagues depending on good results, facilities etc.. same goes the other way. You will be capped at a certain point if you don't have scope for expansion
That depends on a number of factors:
1. The team's location
2. Financial strength
3. Whether the team was formed to replace a recently defunct team or not.
Some teams can start directly from the National Team or League Two.
There are teams in Germany, Italy, and Spain which started from the 3rd tier league.
In the Philippines, you are directly part of the top flight league for the next season once you pay your registration fee whether your team is from a defunct one or a literal new team.
wow. It's amazing how deep the league system is and how many people love and play the sport at different levels!! Fantastic!!
I see why a company like Red bull decided to start RB Leipzig in Germany and wouldn't think about England.
RB Leipzig were already a team that was established in Germany that was bought by Red Bull and then renamed and re-imaged. Similar (but not the same) to MK Dons in UK. I'm almost certain England just has rules on Sponsors owning a club and changing their name/badge into what's basically an advert for the company.
@@Braindeadx16 Germany does too, the RB in Leipzig represents Red Bull however legally their name is RasenBallsport Leipzig which translates to grass ball sport iirc.
Yeah Red Bull pretty much just buys smaller professional teams in big leagues around the world to eradicate their club identity and history and rebrand them as a red bull billboard kicking a ball in a net
@@DeadZeppelin822 😂😂 they took a small failing 5th division club and in 8yrs brought them up to 1st Division while being a model club in the way it forms, buys, sells and is successful. My neighbours parents still live outside Leipzig and everyone loves the club there. The offended virgins who want purity can pound sand, fans dont care. They are way less offensive than the uber rich corporate club parasites which every year buys the best players from German teams... like Leipzig.
Nice to hear! Always thought that the "Pub league" or Sunday league would be Lvl 12 in England.
Played myself in Munich in the last leagues.
Our system was like
C-Klasse ( Team II Most times)
B-Klasse
A-Klasse ( Starting first team's)
Bezirksklasse
Bezirksliga
Bezirksoberliga ( might be, not too sure)
Landesliga
Bayernliga
Regionalliga ( Amateurs)
3.Liga ( Pros)
2. Bundesliga
1.Bundesliga
It is a matter of Region a little bit.
But you get in around 7 till 9 years "straight up",
like in your model.
The time I did a database with FM on a university team. Took me around 15 years to get to the prem 😂
🧢🧢🧢🧢
Would love this to be in a Manager Career game
Imagine becoming a club legend from the start to the prem
I know what you said was completely hypothetical but even so it’s just impossible, say you start at the bottom as a 16yr old in the men’s team of a club, you get promoted every season for 15 years straight you’re gunna be 31 in the national league, even if you got to the prem you’d be 35-36, probably not playing and at the end of you’re career, still would be an amazing career though
@@nunyabusiness4682 100% it wouldve been an amazing career
@@nunyabusiness4682There are 2 Players here in Germany, who played in each of the 9 Levels First team in their Region.
One got 3 games in the German Bundesliga around. Think it might be Werner Rank, at Augsburg.
@@horscanigunger5098 Noice, pretty cool
Nice video. As well as other caveats mentioned. This also assumes you’re able to upgrade facilities accordingly to league standards. A team in the league my friend plays in couldn’t get promoted because they didn’t have their own permanent toilet facilities 😂
As an American citizen, this is absolutely mind-blowing to learn about! So in theory, somebody can start a league with their friends when they're teenagers and over the course of their adult lives, go from the lowest division in English football to the best football league in the world?! What?! That's wild to me.
It’s wild and inspiring lol makes me want to start a club in my backyard
But you would need to put millions if not billions of dollars/pounds into it. But in theory it is possible yes, just like in most other European countries when it comes to sports. You can always get promoted or demoted depending on your finishing position in a season
What an amazing storyline for a film
@@joescho you know what?! Never even thought about that until now but that seems like an awesome movie! I'd watch for sure
Pffttttt
One of things you learn when you grow up in England
Everything seems possible until you try to do it.
Reality hits hard.
Bournemouth is really great!!
Instruction Cleared: Leverkusen a relegation team is about to win a treble.
- Xabi Alonso
Sounds like an goat challenge
Holy smokes, how many divisions 🤯 In Finland it would take a brand new Football team six to eight years to get to the league if promoted every season.
Different size populations I guess. Germany, Italy & France probably have the same amount of divisions I'm guessing?
bro that’s FKCN CRAZY!! ITS LIKE NOT EVEN WORHT LMAOOO
Football in England is acc insane. There needs to be an in depth docu series about it.
I've always wanted to know this but couldn't be bothered finding out how
Wikipedia - your highest club from your neighborhood.
League - - -) Relegation too.
Level 8 till 10 is viewable, even as a German.
Me through the whole video 🤯👀
Ikr that’s crazy
Do note that the realistic amount of time is never, but the nice thing is that there is s path. It's basically impossible for a local team to break into the highest level of pro sports because you're drawing from a tiny pool of people with no money to buy or retain genuine talent, but the fact that given enough skill and dedication it could be done is pretty nice.
The Southwest Premier Logo used in this video is actually the logo for SWPL in the United States and it makes up the 5th-7th tiers. The clubs are from the states of California, Nevada, & Arizona.
I just realised hashtag United is not that far off league 2
It's mental. Obviously these local leagues wont all have 8 tiers but when you think about if new clubs could ever compete we will never really see it cause amount of time.
This shows As a matter of fact Football has grown so much in the UK that there are so many leagues.1⚽️❤
THEN you wake up & smell the roses of reality 😂😂😂😂
Perfect soundtrack!!!
Anyone know the name?
@@thepunisher9937
Fussel's 3rd Overused Symphony
@@YesOkayButWhy somehow I can't find anything with that name 🤔
You can start in a higher division if your initial investment is greater
This is a more realistic prediction, for me.
So, the new club has some good players, but only a small of them are young, potential players. They do have a fine youth academy but not a lot of money. They will also never get relegated. This is the foundation for my stats.
Devon Division 8 : 2 years (until promotion)
Devon D7 : 1 year
Devon D6 : 2 years
Devon D5 : 1 year
DD4 : 1 year
DD3 : 2 years
DD2 : 2 years
DD1 : 2 years
Devon Premier League (Let's call "Premier League" PL afterwards) : 2 years
So the club took 15 years to exit the Devon Football League. Most older players have either retired or moved to other clubs. The entire team basically now has new players.
Southwest Division One : 1 year
Southwest PL : 3 years
Southern Combination League : 2 years
Southern League D One : 2 years
SL Premier Division : 2 years
National League South : 2 years
Nat. League : 4 years
League Two : 4 years
League One : 3 years
Championship to Premier League : 6 years.
It took 44 seasons. Some footballers from the Devon Division 8 might passed already. And there's probably not a single trace of them either. If we count from 2023 then when the "new" club is in the PL then it has already been...2067.
is there any football club where the manager is the player too or nope?
There probably is now but there have been in the past.
Player managers are more common than you think, pretty sure Vincent Kompany at Anderlecht was in his first season
@@pebbleyt1357 Edgar Davids was one of the first names that sprung into mind for me as well as Rooney at Derby.
Damn it would take Ronaldo 19 years to reach the premier league again if Al Nassar was in England?
It can be done far quicker than that if the new club successfully applies to start in Step 6 of the non league. This is not unheard of. Hashtag United started at Step 6 I believe.
These are the leagues Niran is always talking about
And then there’s RB Leipzig in Germany……. Let’s not talk about that ok😂😂
If you start a new team, it takes 10 years just to stop playing sunday league 💀
If you even get promoted every year
The English football league system is really interesting how it has 20 different tiers of fully interconnected leagues.
This is why it's so impressive that afc Wimbledon are now in the same division as the club they split from MK Dons
Wow that’s crazy
Just get a Qatari owner and move in 2years
We need someone to do these series fr
Can't wait to make it to Regionals
20 years, you forgot national League north
?
You do realise thats not how it works-
The NL North and NL South are the same tier of the pyramid, the difference is, the NL North is for teams in the north, the NL South is for teams in the south
How can England have so many football teams and still suck so hard at Football? ;) EZ FOR CROATIA
Strongest and richest league in the world?? Croatian teams wouldn't even make prem
Bury AFC are currently on this treadmill back, we have already won our 1st league, and are on track to win our second consecutive. Wish us look we need it. UTS.
That is absolutely wild.
It's brilliant, making the sport easy to engage in and participate in.
Speedrunners hate that Speedrun
That puts alot of perspective into how hard teams work to make it to the top flight divisions
Yeahhh Devon pride!!!
This is why football always causes me to have the most chaotic thoughts.
Football manager will be very fun with this idea
I will say, there was a team who incorporated in Division 7, they went unbeaten with +127 goal difference and got promoted to Division 1 from 7. Going on to win Division 1 with ease in Devon.
The number of leagues and players is astounding.
Family friend did this about 5 years ago and did so well in their first season they were given a double promotion they then got stuck a year though cos of covid so have basically been promoted every year but seem unlikely to go up this year and have mayde it to i suppose 10 divisions below prem... It's really interesting to watch them develop
Correct me if I’m wrong but I heard that when Leipzig became in team in 2008, they started out in the 5 division of German football
Red Bull "bought" the club SSV Makranstädt which was playing in the 5th division and changed the name, the emblem and all the other things
That's why investors just buy a team somewhat close to Premier League and buy all new players
It would take Winkleigh FC 18 years to be Champions of Europe
That’s why you always focus youth development in football manager
Thats why the championship is as good as any league in europe
"Zat iz futbol eritage"
Mourinho
That's why third tier English team are so big compared to other countries third tier then, being top 3 in England is massive i never realized that
That's why Billionaires just buy those clubs
It’s why Dorking Wanderers started their journey in the Sussex leagues, despite being in Surrey…
That's crazy. In Bavaria in Germany, where i live, the deepest it goes is the 12th league, but only for some areas. In my city the 10th is the lowest
Still a great chance to end up in the premier league by the end of a playing career.Worth it.
Man city be like money does the trick