I just realized you are each wearing the colors of your specialities! Jonathan in blue for medical, Alan in gold for operations/command, and Amanda in red for communication!
And I was upset that Amanda was the red shirt because the new red shirt on a mission always gets killed off. I'm not upset anymore because all their colors together make more sense.
In my organization we have a big thing about deference... I came up with a saying "Until you understand HUMILITY, you can never show true DEFERENCE" It is your humility where you can tap into compassion and understanding of other perspectives. Thank you Amanda...
Kirk and Spock's relationship is one of the most beautiful and genuine male friendships to ever grace the screen. Some have even gone as far as to deem it romantic due to their closeness. There is this quote that I think sums them up well: "It honestly doesn't matter if their relationship is truly romantic or not. A friendship like theirs is so rare and special that the public perception of it will never contradict the obvious bond of inseparable love between the two. Regardless of what kind of love it is, it is still love. And that's what's so beautiful about them." Fuck yeah.
That quote is indeed perfect! And that bond is indeed rare, as the only other possible example I can think of is the one between Sam and Frodo in the Lord of the Rings. I personally don't think either is romantic, but rather the sort of kinship one develops with those they fight alongside with in a war, facing death and suffering and finding hope in each other. Either way, platonic or romantic, their friendship is undeniable.
I found that their relationship while platonic and very strong in a bond. I would place love in that category for the two of them feel for each other, but they complement each other in a way that is very prophetic and understandable the buttheads but they'll still be cordial to each other the next day. You definitely is something rare and special
16:22 I actually really like that the turning point when Spock gets violent is Kirk saying he didn’t love his mom because in one of the first episodes of the original series, the entire crew gets infected with a virus that lowers all their inhibitions and Spock is crying alone in a room when Kirk enters and Spock says “my mother, I could never tell her I loved her” and that’s when she’s still alive! All this is to say that Spock is constantly struggling with the level of emotion (a big part of his mother’s culture) he feels comfortable expressing without betraying the philosophical ideal that is so systemic to his culture.
I think people often forget that Vulcans experience emotions and passions more strongly than humans. Much more strongly. They adopted a system of logic and discipline because they saw that their emotions were causing chaos and destruction in their society. So it makes complete sense, and makes it more impactful, when we see the Vulcan shield crack. A small smile here, a tiny twitch there, are indicators of much more intense emotions than humans are used to. Vulcans are just so much better than humans that controlling what leaks out, because they have to be.
Not that you guys should feel insecure or anything but please get Amanda back for more. Poetry never clicked with me until I listened to hers (and her readings). Little did I know she's a massive nerd as well. Insane get, guys. What an incredible episode. Thank you. 🙏🏻
This was actually my first time hearing about her, but I'm in live already! She's so charismatic and captivating, and just by how she speaks I know I'll love her writing❤
@@Cutiepie-mf4ht They won't 'cause analysing characters requires following their whole story and shows are too long for that, it's too much extra work. Zuko was an exception.
Congratulations to Amanda for successfully taking over the channel! Jonathan and Alan had a great run but I'll be looking forward to what you've got planned.
Well…we already knew that Amanda is incredibly insightful but if she wasn’t a poet (an observer of humans and human interaction), she could possibly have been a therapist or anthropologist because she just GETS it! Stunning! We are so lucky to have her during our time! 💜
Loved Amanda Gorman! Also, fun fact about Kirk eating the apple during the Kobayashi Maru test: that's a reference to Star Trek 2, where Kirk is eating an apple as he tells the story of how he beat the Kobayashi Maru exam.
Near the beginning of the video when Jonathon and Alan asked, "Why Amanda?" my brain went to Spock's mom, Amanda Grayson, and just completely forgot the guests name is also Amanda despite being in the title of this video in big letters. Also, Amanda's analysis at the end made me understand the dynamic between Jim and Spock so much better. Thank you.
Years ago, I was asked at a job interview “if you could have dinner with three people, who would they be?” I don’t remember my answer, but I know behind the shadow of doubt that whatever it was, I was wrong. The only correct answer is Alan, Jono, and Amanda Gorman.
When I saw the title I was like “is it a different Amanda Gorman?” but no, WORLD RENOWNED POET AMANDA GORMAN showed up to geek out with you (and us) over Star Trek!!! Stunning indeed ❤
I watched this movie once in college a few years ago. I don’t remember much about the movie itself, but I do remember resonating a lot with Spock-specifically when Kirk asks him if he cried when his mother died, and if he ever actually loved her at all. I’ve legitimately had people say similar things to me because I tend to keep my emotions under tight control and don’t show affection or vulnerability very openly. I really felt for the poor guy in that scene. Just because someone doesn’t *express* sadness or love or happiness on the surface doesn’t mean they don’t *feel* it deeply.
As a 73-year-old Trekkie, I loved this movie. I thought it was a brilliant move to do a reboot in an alternate history. And that’s when I fell in love with Zachary Quinto.
Yes I knew that but it’s irrelevant because none of my movie star loves are actually potential sexual partners for my 73 year old happily married self. @@Bloodangel8299
Absolutely LOVED Amanda's analysis of Kirk and Spock displaying each others personal hangups. Never looked at it that way before. Please get her back you guys - loving how much you love her content and she loves yours - such a positive and joyous environment to be a virtual part of
Amanda Gorman + Cinema Therapy?!? The collaboration we never knew we needed! You two never cease to amaze me and I am so grateful for this episode. It is exactly what I needed today. ❤
"I could not deprive you of the revelation of all that you could accomplish together, of a friendship that will define you both in ways you cannot yet realize. Spock, in this case, do yourself a favor...Put asude Logic. Do what feels right. Since my customary farewell would appear oddly self-serving, I shall simply say...'Good Luck'🖖 Rest in Peace Leonard Nimoy and Anton Yelchin.
Please please please please do Star Trek Into Darkness: the scene where they are in the shuttle and Uhura is angry at Spock and accusing him of being uncaring. The line "You mistake my choice not to feel as a reflection of my not caring, while I assure you the truth is precisely the opposite." is incredible! It hit me so hard. I very much relate to that feeling.
This literally may be the best video yet. "Humility is how we access our humanity, which is how we access our hope." I feel like that's gonna be tattooed on me at some point
Thanks to Amanda for joining the Cinema Therapy family. It has been a blessing to hear her thoughts. If I could put a single word on this episode, it would be "Enlightened."
Oh, I love these characters! Can't wait to see how you talk about them getting to know how the other comunicates. Spok was my first real form of rep as a kid with Autism that wasn't a literal robot.
Me too! Now more than ever, Spock reminds me as a guy on the spectrum that it is okay to be different psychologically and emotionally...as someone who has also experienced emotional turmoil like Spock a few times and felt I needed to repress it, I like how he grows to accept his emotions.
I'm only passingly familiar with Star Trek, never watched any of the shows but have watched a couple of the more recent movies. I never thought about Spock being a spectrum-type character, but that's a pretty great call (as the parent of a child on the spectrum myself).
I get the impression, admittedly anecdotally, that that's not at all uncommon. It's great to know that there's representation in such an admirable character.
Fun fact for all you guys stock was a literal representation of the alien learning about humanity which in another sense. Yeah he would seem like he's on the autistic spectrum and kind of like that extra layer there. It makes it him more rounded and unique
I always think of the Breaking Bad creator talking in a doc about how Star Trek was a little like the classic show Mayberry, where a big draw is that the audience wants to believe a place like this exists. Mayberry was a quaint cute place and Star Trek is full of space dangers but both are aspirational in that what we consider the best of humanity is on display. We've moved past old ways and continue to move forward and explore and meet new beings and try to understand them. It really would be the greatest feat, to get humanity back on a track where we could survive long enough to reach a reality like Star Trek and be worthy of our place in the universe.
YES! YOU'RE WATCHING THE MOVIE THAT SPARKED MY LOVE FOR CHRIS PINE AND STAR TREK! I watch Strange New Worlds now. If it wasn't for the action-packed emotions the Kelvin Timeline gave me, then I probably would've taken longer to watch the Prime Timeline, aka the Original Series. I need y'all to watch the whole Trilogy! 😩🖖🏿🌌
I hadn’t consciously noticed the “Kirk v. Spock in the hearing” aspect where the camera stops moving before. But it is powerful. it’s like the moments in soundtrack-filled movies when the music pauses for a dramatic moment. The LACK of the normally-there thing makes the moment even more powerful. Now I’m going to have to watch for this in other Abrams movies.
Wow what a coincidence! I'm a children's librarian and I'm featuring the book "Something, Someday" for a special program at my library this month. Wonderful book! And amazing video as always!
Watching you all geek out about each other was the most wholesome thing ever. I sincerely hope you have her back on at some point. She's so incredible!
Both "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" always gives me hope we can become our best selves. 2 shows where people struggle to do the right thing and deep in their heart, want to save everyone. And are willing to give their own life to save others.
❤️😭 I'm a big Trekie, so this is already a huge plus for me. But gosh, the whole humility to humanity to hope is very resounding. Thank you for helping me slow down and listen!
YES! I actually just happened to write a comment about this on the Zuko video about how these movies are a lot better than people give them credit for, and especially how they have a lot of therapeutic ideas about grief, handling emotions, friendship. And how great the writing can be with some gems of wisdom from Spock. Ik many Star Trek fans hate these movies and I can understand why, but growing up with these films and then watching all the older Star Trek series and films, I think these still hold up in their own right, they’re different but not as dumb as people dismiss them as. Have rewatched them quite a few times and compared to the nostalgia goggles of the prequels, I think the writing in these can really be quite good but ofc its also thanks to the source material and it makes sense ppl would hate a reboot of it. But man considering the reboot/remake era of that time, we could’ve had a lot lot worse
Just as a data point, I've been a Star Trek fan since I watched the original series in first run as a little kid, and I *love* the Kelvin timeline. A lot of LOUD fans hate the series, but plenty of us are happily watching, too.
@@angiepenthats nice to hear, i was really upset that Star Trek Beyond did so poorly and that since then any new movie has been caught up in salary/payment conflict with the studio that wants to severely cut the budget, but more consequently, the pay of Hemsworth and Pine whose negotiations fell through. I think thats becuz of the era of ‘every movie needs to make a billion otherwise its a flop’ when Beyond made 343 mil on a 190 mil budget, and the previous ones made 100 mil more i guess. But its insane, i mean star trek movies have never made that much money to begin with. Anyways i think a lot of fans have been upset with all the tv series of NuTrek that followed, and a lot of ppl dont watch Strange New Worlds even if its pretty decent, so idk if we’ll ever get another movie. I hope so becuz the cast & crew of these films were phenomenal, the films looked fantastic, they had fantastic performances, and I think Beyond was really leading towards the sort of fun one-off Star Trek plots people loved from the old films
If only Kirk had responded with, “What does a vulcan know of fear, least of all to be able to test or worst of all judge others’ responses to it?” In a completely even tone.
The way Spock Prime says, "Believe me, i am emotionally compromised" reminds me of Egon Spengler saying, "Sorry, Venkman. Im terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought."
I can't tell you how excited I was when I saw this notification. The Kelvin timeline gets so much hate from the Star Trek purists, but they were my comfort movies after my father died. So they will always be special to me. May all three of you live long and prosper. ❤
I adore the newer star trek trilogy. It was so well done! I ve always enjoyed star trek so the new movies really hit home with me. So happy to see this about their friendship. Their dynamic is so great. definitely one of my favorites. 💗
@@justanothermortal1373 I don't agree with you, not a fan of the Kelvin Timeline, especially the second, but the Actors did an amazing job being these characters we already knew so well.
@@Scuzzlebutt142 Thats wild the 2nd one is one of my favorites lol. I get where you re coming from though. Seems like people either love these or hate them.
@@esther589 honestly same. I mean Me and my dad rewatched the second one just randomly a few years ago cuz we both thought it was awesome, I rewatched it yesterday and still think its awesome. I 100% understand that ppl hate it becuz it technically was at its release seen as a cheap remake of Wrath of Khan changing around plot-twists to bait and trick the audience. E.g. the marketing hiding the fact that Benedict was Khan and then switching who dies at the end. I get that, if u watched Wrath of Khan first you probably might never stop hating Into Darkness. But by itself, separated from the original, Into Darkness is pretty damn awesome, most of the film is far different from wrath of khan and just explores what if this same guy was found in different circumstances. It’s just by itself I really think its a very entertaining fun movie that does exactly what you want from the new Star Trek films, all the character relationships/dynamics/arcs are great, the action is great, the visuals are great, performances great.
@@Scuzzlebutt142 that's okay :). Ironically the second one was my favourite of the three. I think I like the Kelvin Timeline cus it was what first introduced me to Star Trek, so it'll have a special place in my heart.
Here we have a heart-stirring healer, discussing humility, humanity, and hope. We are hypnotized by her humane, history-making, high-class hocus pocus. ........I should leave the alliterations to the experts 😅
That was an amazing episode. I wholeheartedly enjoy that and it definitely ended far too quickly. Many times I watch you guys I want to go sit and watch the whole movie right there with you. I feel so educated yet so entertained and most of the time I struggle to gain both without pushing the other away. And Amanda is a sweetheart I absolutely hope she comes back🩵 I also realized it’s been too long since I’ve last seen Star Trek!
The interactions among the 3 were so wholesome, lmao. How Alan and Jono were so starstruck throughout the whole thing and Amanda humility in complimenting their work was such a joy to watch. Oh, yeah, and we also learned a few things through Star Trek, lol.
exactly!! I do not know how many times I laughed at Alan's and Jono's half-open mouths and their obvious admiration of Amanda. I loved it. I would be even more starstruck!! :D
"Humility is how we access our humanity which is how we access our hope." - So beautifully put. Loved this video guys! More Trek, please. Would love to see TOS crew too.
Yay! Star Trek!! Please, please, please do Star Trek Into The Darkness!! I never thought "Benadryl Cucumber" would be able to pull of Khan, but he was incredible. Khan's character is so fascinating!! Would love to hear a a therapist react to him.
Wow! We're not worthy of Amanda! What a great episode. This is got to be one of the top 3 episodes (I'm thinking the best, but I haven't seen them all.)
Somehow, this channel made me like Star Trek 2009 trilogy even more despite that I am already a fan of the trilogy. P.S: This is the first time I heard of Amanda Gorman and I like her already!
Amanda Gorman demonstrates the power and importance of the art of communication. Not only does she possess the eloquence of a poet, but the wisdom to express herself profoundly.
This legitimately was one of my very favorite episodes! Ms. Gorman has such incredible insight, and it blends so well with the format and content of your videos. Thank you all!
The increasingly-close close-ups starting at 15:36 totally to me back to when I saw the movie in the theater. I was seated in the very front row (probably because I was running away from someone's perfume), and I remember sitting there feeling like I was looking up the nose of a giant Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto.
Oh my gosh, I LOVED this episode. I am duly impressed with Amanda Gorman's insights and appreciation for Star Trek and the Kirk-Spock dynamic. Excellent stuff!!
This is an amazing video and I loved everything Amanda said! I am highly analytical, logical, and skeptical- it’s difficult for me to let go of the control because I think I have always thought of every outcome but I have learned to listen to others and the value they bring to situations.
The great strength of sci-fi and fantasy is taking real world conflicts and abstracting them so they can be examined from a different perspective. Humans and Vulcans independently figured out how to overcome intraplanetary conflicts and go to space, but neither would have successfully created the Federation on their own.
This was so cool!! I've always loved Star Trek and especially the Kelvin Timeline, so of course I expected that I would enjoy this. What I didn't expect was to realize that when Amanda talked about Spock being punished for his emotions and Kirk hating himself for his lack of rationale that this directly parallels my relationship with my (older) sister! She was always the critical thinker---give her any opportunity and you can see on her face the on-the-fly calculation of "Is this worth the risk?" Whereas I have always been a very thrill-seeking, spontaneous, more emotionally driven person. I always hated that I wasn't as naturally composed as her, and struggle a lot with comparison between us, considering myself to be her exact opposite. But when I told other people about this, they never saw it that way, saying they thought we were very similar and didn't consider me "irrational" at all. It was so crazy to think that the perceived differences might actually be similarities, just in a different environment. Wonderful stuff as usual! P.S. have you ever considered doing something about a self-defeating personality type? I don't know any good movies that reflect that, but it would definitely be an interesting watch. Live long and prosper! 🖖
As an Aussie (not from space, sadly) I had never heard of Amanda Gorman before this. She truly impressed me. I will be looking for one of her books. Great analysis all round this episode.
If Amanda doesn't have a channel/podcast, she could totally start one. She could make it all about the interpersonal relationships/conflicts between characters in all sorts of popular media. It'd be a hit, for sure. Also, yeah, that shoulder slap sound effect was delectable.
I like Amanda the minute I see her. Her book arrangement just satisfies my soul. Mostly color coordinate and in size order 😌. And the last book on her left is in my wishlist ❤
Oooh, thank you for this particular episode! All my passions brought together! I've had a life-long interest and involvement in science fiction (particularly Star Trek), movies, reading, and politics. Can Amanda Gorman, pretty please, make Cinema Therapy a trio? You all kind of worked a specific miracle for me. I've had such mixed feelings about the Kelvin timeline. The casting is absolute perfection but, even though I understand the need for a big event to create a different timeline, the destruction of Vulcan seemed too "disaster porn" for me. (Let's destroy Vulcan or Metropolis or an entire dimension or whatever so our characters can learn something.) But, the episode reminded me how perfectly the 2009 movie dramatizes the Vulcan / Star Trek premise of "infinity diversity in infinity combinations" (IDIC) as a source of strength rather than weakness. Now, I need to rewatch it. Thank you!
So awesome to see Amanda here, and congratulations to her for having one of her poems chosen for the Lucy mission! That's amazing! For all the issues I have with the Abrams Trek movies, one of those issues is not the casting, they absolutely nailed it there. But I've gotta speak up for Karl Urban as Bones. His performance literally moved Leonard Nimoy to tears because of how much it reminded him of DeForest Kelley, so mad props to Karl. Could you guys do an episode on the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and Bones? They've always been one of the best examples of balance in friendship and in a command structure portrayed, even when Bones and Spock (mainly Bones) bicker like an old married couple.
This is such a treat! I'm unabashedly a Trekkie. I have always been fascinated with the dynamics between the different Captains and First Officers. The way that Picard is the only captain Riker has respect for and why, and the way Chakotay stands solidly behind Janeway despite his superior knowledge as a wartime captain. The way Sisko deals with his various first officers in Deep Space Nine. Please do therapy on that. If there are a group of people that need it, it would be them.❤❤❤ 😂😂
EXECPTIONAL EPISODE !!! So Sharp, Dynamic and Wonderfully Quick and Intelligent !!! Absolutely Wonderful Ping Pong Communication !!! - I LOVE THIS BRIGHT LADY !!! Please bring her on the show again !!! Thank You !!!
Every time Amanda comes in with the most astute character analysis ever my jaw just slowly dropped further and further...incredible! It sounds like she's a fan; if everyone's on board please have her back as a guest, this was sooo good!
I legit got mad when I heard how he died. He was a fantastic actor. I wanted to see more of his work. But now, because of a stupid car, that's it. There ain't a price tag big enough for the loss of that man.
Speaking as an Australian fan, it feels like the moons of Jupiter here sometimes. What an amazing special guest! I'd love to serve on a ship with Jono, Alan and Amanda as command crew. The adventures we'd have...
LETS GO! I love the Kevin Star Trek it’s what got me into Star Trek and I love Chris’s take on Jim because I thought his settle character development throughout the series was really interesting and inspiring to watch.
THERE IS SO MUCH I LOVE IN THIS EPISODE. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I absolutely LOVE Amanda’s nerdiness about Star Trek and stellar commentary. Please have her back!
So I clicked on this to soothe my wrecked heart after watching your clip on Grave of the Fireflies, and did not expect to see Amanda on here! Dressed as Uhura!! What!!! Wow I would watch the Amanda Show. Especially geeking out over ST and shipping the greatest ship of all time. I loved that you all wore the appropriate uniform colours!!
Note to the Editor: It was a *very* funny bit and i hope you feel better soon. It was also the first thought ny that popped into my head when i heard "The Amanda Show".
I am blown away by her wisdom. Just... Wow. There were a few times that I had to pause the video just to process the deep psychological punch of her words. I've personally never heard these facets of people and of humanity presented in words in such a perfect way. She is absolutely deserving of her accolaids. And her work went to space! I am jealous.
I just realized you are each wearing the colors of your specialities! Jonathan in blue for medical, Alan in gold for operations/command, and Amanda in red for communication!
Thank you so much! I didn't realize that, and now I appreciate their attention to detail even more.
goddamn. youre right. good eye.
Awesome!! It didn't click for me either! 💚💚💚 Thank you for pointing it!
And I was upset that Amanda was the red shirt because the new red shirt on a mission always gets killed off. I'm not upset anymore because all their colors together make more sense.
That's adorable.
"Humility is how we access our humanity which is how we access our hope." - our poet laureate ladies and gentlemen ❤
In my organization we have a big thing about deference... I came up with a saying "Until you understand HUMILITY, you can never show true DEFERENCE"
It is your humility where you can tap into compassion and understanding of other perspectives. Thank you Amanda...
I hope she uses that line in a poem.
gunna need this one on a shirt y'all!!!! PLEASE
At the end when Amanda compares the parallel trauma of Kirk and Spock growing up... emotions and chills. Incredible.
Kirk and Spock's relationship is one of the most beautiful and genuine male friendships to ever grace the screen. Some have even gone as far as to deem it romantic due to their closeness.
There is this quote that I think sums them up well:
"It honestly doesn't matter if their relationship is truly romantic or not. A friendship like theirs is so rare and special that the public perception of it will never contradict the obvious bond of inseparable love between the two. Regardless of what kind of love it is, it is still love. And that's what's so beautiful about them."
Fuck yeah.
That quote is indeed perfect! And that bond is indeed rare, as the only other possible example I can think of is the one between Sam and Frodo in the Lord of the Rings. I personally don't think either is romantic, but rather the sort of kinship one develops with those they fight alongside with in a war, facing death and suffering and finding hope in each other. Either way, platonic or romantic, their friendship is undeniable.
Who said that do you know?
I found that their relationship while platonic and very strong in a bond. I would place love in that category for the two of them feel for each other, but they complement each other in a way that is very prophetic and understandable the buttheads but they'll still be cordial to each other the next day. You definitely is something rare and special
of course, when you consider the pon farr theory, it's likely that they got it on at least once...
I urge you to youtube for " _Kirk's dear friend Spock_ ", you won't be disappointed 😁
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16:22 I actually really like that the turning point when Spock gets violent is Kirk saying he didn’t love his mom because in one of the first episodes of the original series, the entire crew gets infected with a virus that lowers all their inhibitions and Spock is crying alone in a room when Kirk enters and Spock says “my mother, I could never tell her I loved her” and that’s when she’s still alive! All this is to say that Spock is constantly struggling with the level of emotion (a big part of his mother’s culture) he feels comfortable expressing without betraying the philosophical ideal that is so systemic to his culture.
Oh dang, I didn’t make that connection, but yeah that’s a fantastic connection!
I think people often forget that Vulcans experience emotions and passions more strongly than humans. Much more strongly. They adopted a system of logic and discipline because they saw that their emotions were causing chaos and destruction in their society. So it makes complete sense, and makes it more impactful, when we see the Vulcan shield crack. A small smile here, a tiny twitch there, are indicators of much more intense emotions than humans are used to. Vulcans are just so much better than humans that controlling what leaks out, because they have to be.
I personally always loved the fact that it took those Vulcan bullies 35 tries to get to "yo mama".
Not that you guys should feel insecure or anything but please get Amanda back for more. Poetry never clicked with me until I listened to hers (and her readings). Little did I know she's a massive nerd as well. Insane get, guys. What an incredible episode. Thank you. 🙏🏻
This was actually my first time hearing about her, but I'm in live already! She's so charismatic and captivating, and just by how she speaks I know I'll love her writing❤
@@heehoopeanut420you should watch her inauguration speech!
Still stunned and amazed that you guys got Amanda Gorman!!
So are we!!
She's incredible. Her poem at the inauguration in 2020 just absolutely floored me.
@@JeffKelly03 totally, it brought tears to my eyes.
@@CinemaTherapyShow Question, when can you start doing TV characters for therapy session?
@@Cutiepie-mf4ht They won't 'cause analysing characters requires following their whole story and shows are too long for that, it's too much extra work. Zuko was an exception.
Congratulations to Amanda for successfully taking over the channel! Jonathan and Alan had a great run but I'll be looking forward to what you've got planned.
Us too! 😂
I'm so glad that you mentioned Anton Yelchin. He was so great in this role, and it was tragic that he died before the third movie released.
Well…we already knew that Amanda is incredibly insightful but if she wasn’t a poet (an observer of humans and human interaction), she could possibly have been a therapist or anthropologist because she just GETS it! Stunning! We are so lucky to have her during our time! 💜
Good poets are often all of those things. 😊
This is great bringing in Amanda Gorman. Such a brilliant and talented young woman.
I was really excited to see her
Loved Amanda Gorman!
Also, fun fact about Kirk eating the apple during the Kobayashi Maru test: that's a reference to Star Trek 2, where Kirk is eating an apple as he tells the story of how he beat the Kobayashi Maru exam.
I love nerd shit like this
Star Trek and Amanda Gorman is not a combo I ever expected on Cinema Therapy, but it's so perfect I am fangirling out of my mind!
Actually so hilarious how both of you just stared into the camera and let her speak, like: "Yeah, that's actually better than what I would have said".
Humility!
She has a way with words.
It’s kind of expected for a poet, but still amazing to see in action.
Near the beginning of the video when Jonathon and Alan asked, "Why Amanda?" my brain went to Spock's mom, Amanda Grayson, and just completely forgot the guests name is also Amanda despite being in the title of this video in big letters.
Also, Amanda's analysis at the end made me understand the dynamic between Jim and Spock so much better. Thank you.
Years ago, I was asked at a job interview “if you could have dinner with three people, who would they be?”
I don’t remember my answer, but I know behind the shadow of doubt that whatever it was, I was wrong.
The only correct answer is Alan, Jono, and Amanda Gorman.
When I saw the title I was like “is it a different Amanda Gorman?” but no, WORLD RENOWNED POET AMANDA GORMAN showed up to geek out with you (and us) over Star Trek!!! Stunning indeed ❤
I watched this movie once in college a few years ago. I don’t remember much about the movie itself, but I do remember resonating a lot with Spock-specifically when Kirk asks him if he cried when his mother died, and if he ever actually loved her at all. I’ve legitimately had people say similar things to me because I tend to keep my emotions under tight control and don’t show affection or vulnerability very openly. I really felt for the poor guy in that scene. Just because someone doesn’t *express* sadness or love or happiness on the surface doesn’t mean they don’t *feel* it deeply.
Still waters run deep, as the saying goes.
As a 73-year-old Trekkie, I loved this movie. I thought it was a brilliant move to do a reboot in an alternate history.
And that’s when I fell in love with Zachary Quinto.
You should check him out in the first season of Heroes. And watch ONLY the first season.
The movie sucks but most of the crew cast was good
Did you know Zachary Quinto is gay,sorry to burst your bubble!
But he is a good actor kudos for his performance!
Yes I knew that but it’s irrelevant because none of my movie star loves are actually potential sexual partners for my 73 year old happily married self. @@Bloodangel8299
@@paulrasmussen8953 The movie did not suck
Absolutely LOVED Amanda's analysis of Kirk and Spock displaying each others personal hangups. Never looked at it that way before. Please get her back you guys - loving how much you love her content and she loves yours - such a positive and joyous environment to be a virtual part of
I loved it also! After watching this I went and watched the move again the came back to listen to her analysis again. Just amazing!
Amanda Gorman + Cinema Therapy?!? The collaboration we never knew we needed! You two never cease to amaze me and I am so grateful for this episode. It is exactly what I needed today. ❤
So glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Same with me for sure!!
"I could not deprive you of the revelation of all that you could accomplish together, of a friendship that will define you both in ways you cannot yet realize. Spock, in this case, do yourself a favor...Put asude Logic. Do what feels right.
Since my customary farewell would appear oddly self-serving, I shall simply say...'Good Luck'🖖
Rest in Peace Leonard Nimoy and Anton Yelchin.
I'm thankful to be living in the same time as Amanda Gorman. What a beautiful human being.
Please please please please do Star Trek Into Darkness: the scene where they are in the shuttle and Uhura is angry at Spock and accusing him of being uncaring.
The line "You mistake my choice not to feel as a reflection of my not caring, while I assure you the truth is precisely the opposite." is incredible!
It hit me so hard. I very much relate to that feeling.
Amanda Gorman is a national treasure. Every time she speaks I feel inspired~
This literally may be the best video yet.
"Humility is how we access our humanity, which is how we access our hope." I feel like that's gonna be tattooed on me at some point
That Amanda sure can word good!
Thanks to Amanda for joining the Cinema Therapy family. It has been a blessing to hear her thoughts. If I could put a single word on this episode, it would be "Enlightened."
Fangirling over Amanda Gorman 😱 Her being one of the best poets to emerge in recent years proves that the art of writing is not dying ❤
Oh, I love these characters! Can't wait to see how you talk about them getting to know how the other comunicates. Spok was my first real form of rep as a kid with Autism that wasn't a literal robot.
Same here even though the plot sucks.Those actors did a great job bringing them to life.
Me too! Now more than ever, Spock reminds me as a guy on the spectrum that it is okay to be different psychologically and emotionally...as someone who has also experienced emotional turmoil like Spock a few times and felt I needed to repress it, I like how he grows to accept his emotions.
I'm only passingly familiar with Star Trek, never watched any of the shows but have watched a couple of the more recent movies. I never thought about Spock being a spectrum-type character, but that's a pretty great call (as the parent of a child on the spectrum myself).
I get the impression, admittedly anecdotally, that that's not at all uncommon. It's great to know that there's representation in such an admirable character.
Fun fact for all you guys stock was a literal representation of the alien learning about humanity which in another sense. Yeah he would seem like he's on the autistic spectrum and kind of like that extra layer there. It makes it him more rounded and unique
I always think of the Breaking Bad creator talking in a doc about how Star Trek was a little like the classic show Mayberry, where a big draw is that the audience wants to believe a place like this exists. Mayberry was a quaint cute place and Star Trek is full of space dangers but both are aspirational in that what we consider the best of humanity is on display. We've moved past old ways and continue to move forward and explore and meet new beings and try to understand them. It really would be the greatest feat, to get humanity back on a track where we could survive long enough to reach a reality like Star Trek and be worthy of our place in the universe.
Oooo please bring her back for more episodes, she's got great input
YES
YES! YOU'RE WATCHING THE MOVIE THAT SPARKED MY LOVE FOR CHRIS PINE AND STAR TREK! I watch Strange New Worlds now. If it wasn't for the action-packed emotions the Kelvin Timeline gave me, then I probably would've taken longer to watch the Prime Timeline, aka the Original Series. I need y'all to watch the whole Trilogy! 😩🖖🏿🌌
I hadn’t consciously noticed the “Kirk v. Spock in the hearing” aspect where the camera stops moving before. But it is powerful. it’s like the moments in soundtrack-filled movies when the music pauses for a dramatic moment. The LACK of the normally-there thing makes the moment even more powerful. Now I’m going to have to watch for this in other Abrams movies.
It's comforting to know I'm not the only person who feels sad when they see Anton Yelchin...
Wow what a coincidence! I'm a children's librarian and I'm featuring the book "Something, Someday" for a special program at my library this month. Wonderful book! And amazing video as always!
Watching you all geek out about each other was the most wholesome thing ever. I sincerely hope you have her back on at some point. She's so incredible!
Both "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" always gives me hope we can become our best selves. 2 shows where people struggle to do the right thing and deep in their heart, want to save everyone. And are willing to give their own life to save others.
❤️😭 I'm a big Trekie, so this is already a huge plus for me. But gosh, the whole humility to humanity to hope is very resounding. Thank you for helping me slow down and listen!
What a treat to see one of the great young minds of her generation on this show. Beautiful work, you guys.
YES! I actually just happened to write a comment about this on the Zuko video about how these movies are a lot better than people give them credit for, and especially how they have a lot of therapeutic ideas about grief, handling emotions, friendship. And how great the writing can be with some gems of wisdom from Spock. Ik many Star Trek fans hate these movies and I can understand why, but growing up with these films and then watching all the older Star Trek series and films, I think these still hold up in their own right, they’re different but not as dumb as people dismiss them as. Have rewatched them quite a few times and compared to the nostalgia goggles of the prequels, I think the writing in these can really be quite good but ofc its also thanks to the source material and it makes sense ppl would hate a reboot of it. But man considering the reboot/remake era of that time, we could’ve had a lot lot worse
Just as a data point, I've been a Star Trek fan since I watched the original series in first run as a little kid, and I *love* the Kelvin timeline. A lot of LOUD fans hate the series, but plenty of us are happily watching, too.
@@angiepenthats nice to hear, i was really upset that Star Trek Beyond did so poorly and that since then any new movie has been caught up in salary/payment conflict with the studio that wants to severely cut the budget, but more consequently, the pay of Hemsworth and Pine whose negotiations fell through. I think thats becuz of the era of ‘every movie needs to make a billion otherwise its a flop’ when Beyond made 343 mil on a 190 mil budget, and the previous ones made 100 mil more i guess. But its insane, i mean star trek movies have never made that much money to begin with.
Anyways i think a lot of fans have been upset with all the tv series of NuTrek that followed, and a lot of ppl dont watch Strange New Worlds even if its pretty decent, so idk if we’ll ever get another movie. I hope so becuz the cast & crew of these films were phenomenal, the films looked fantastic, they had fantastic performances, and I think Beyond was really leading towards the sort of fun one-off Star Trek plots people loved from the old films
Amanda Gorman?! You guys have absolutely gone pro tier. Youngest Poet Laureate ever on your youtube show? Awesome!
The JJ Abrams reboot in the Kelvin timeline is what got me into Star Trek so this movie will forever hold a special place in my heart.
Same!
If only Kirk had responded with, “What does a vulcan know of fear, least of all to be able to test or worst of all judge others’ responses to it?” In a completely even tone.
The way Spock Prime says, "Believe me, i am emotionally compromised" reminds me of Egon Spengler saying, "Sorry, Venkman. Im terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought."
Whoever put together the Amanda Show intro - I *LOVE* you
11:44 that gag and editor’s note 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I have no idea if this is a funny bit or not but I’m running a fever and I saw this in a spirit vision” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't tell you how excited I was when I saw this notification. The Kelvin timeline gets so much hate from the Star Trek purists, but they were my comfort movies after my father died. So they will always be special to me. May all three of you live long and prosper. ❤
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Amazing guest, amazing theme, amazing movie... And amazing editing as usual ❤
Thank you so much!
💯 Especially this 23:37 Perfection!
I adore the newer star trek trilogy. It was so well done! I ve always enjoyed star trek so the new movies really hit home with me. So happy to see this about their friendship. Their dynamic is so great. definitely one of my favorites. 💗
For real. The Kelvin Timeline doesn't deserve the hate it gets.
@@justanothermortal1373 I don't agree with you, not a fan of the Kelvin Timeline, especially the second, but the Actors did an amazing job being these characters we already knew so well.
@@Scuzzlebutt142 Thats wild the 2nd one is one of my favorites lol. I get where you re coming from though. Seems like people either love these or hate them.
@@esther589 honestly same. I mean Me and my dad rewatched the second one just randomly a few years ago cuz we both thought it was awesome, I rewatched it yesterday and still think its awesome. I 100% understand that ppl hate it becuz it technically was at its release seen as a cheap remake of Wrath of Khan changing around plot-twists to bait and trick the audience. E.g. the marketing hiding the fact that Benedict was Khan and then switching who dies at the end. I get that, if u watched Wrath of Khan first you probably might never stop hating Into Darkness. But by itself, separated from the original, Into Darkness is pretty damn awesome, most of the film is far different from wrath of khan and just explores what if this same guy was found in different circumstances. It’s just by itself I really think its a very entertaining fun movie that does exactly what you want from the new Star Trek films, all the character relationships/dynamics/arcs are great, the action is great, the visuals are great, performances great.
@@Scuzzlebutt142 that's okay :). Ironically the second one was my favourite of the three. I think I like the Kelvin Timeline cus it was what first introduced me to Star Trek, so it'll have a special place in my heart.
Here we have a heart-stirring healer, discussing humility, humanity, and hope. We are hypnotized by her humane, history-making, high-class hocus pocus.
........I should leave the alliterations to the experts 😅
Amanda Gorman and Star Trek together is a dream come true! I loved the chemistry between the three of you 😄
I see Amanda Gordon and I cry humbled by her empathy, her wisdom, creativity...thank you Cinema Therapy for bringing her.
That was an amazing episode. I wholeheartedly enjoy that and it definitely ended far too quickly. Many times I watch you guys I want to go sit and watch the whole movie right there with you. I feel so educated yet so entertained and most of the time I struggle to gain both without pushing the other away. And Amanda is a sweetheart I absolutely hope she comes back🩵 I also realized it’s been too long since I’ve last seen Star Trek!
The interactions among the 3 were so wholesome, lmao. How Alan and Jono were so starstruck throughout the whole thing and Amanda humility in complimenting their work was such a joy to watch. Oh, yeah, and we also learned a few things through Star Trek, lol.
exactly!! I do not know how many times I laughed at Alan's and Jono's half-open mouths and their obvious admiration of Amanda. I loved it. I would be even more starstruck!! :D
"Humility is how we access our humanity which is how we access our hope." - So beautifully put.
Loved this video guys! More Trek, please. Would love to see TOS crew too.
Yay! Star Trek!! Please, please, please do Star Trek Into The Darkness!! I never thought "Benadryl Cucumber" would be able to pull of Khan, but he was incredible. Khan's character is so fascinating!! Would love to hear a a therapist react to him.
OMG she is amazing!!! I cried listening to her poem!😭😭
Wow! We're not worthy of Amanda! What a great episode. This is got to be one of the top 3 episodes (I'm thinking the best, but I haven't seen them all.)
Somehow, this channel made me like Star Trek 2009 trilogy even more despite that I am already a fan of the trilogy.
P.S: This is the first time I heard of Amanda Gorman and I like her already!
Amanda Gorman demonstrates the power and importance of the art of communication. Not only does she possess the eloquence of a poet, but the wisdom to express herself profoundly.
This legitimately was one of my very favorite episodes! Ms. Gorman has such incredible insight, and it blends so well with the format and content of your videos. Thank you all!
It's fun when everyone in the room is totally geeking out for each other.
The increasingly-close close-ups starting at 15:36 totally to me back to when I saw the movie in the theater. I was seated in the very front row (probably because I was running away from someone's perfume), and I remember sitting there feeling like I was looking up the nose of a giant Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto.
Oh my gosh, I LOVED this episode. I am duly impressed with Amanda Gorman's insights and appreciation for Star Trek and the Kirk-Spock dynamic. Excellent stuff!!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
I once recited a poem by Amanda Gorman. She is so brilliant! I also watched her Ted Talk
Amanda is lovely. I have never seen anyone else just accidently alliterate in the same way I do when I'm stuck in writing mode.
I love Amanda Gorman! I love Star Trek! I love Cinema Therapy! So much awesomeness here.
We love this comment!
STAR TREK (TOS, DS9, VOY, TNG) is the reason I am who I am today🥰
And I'm from Australia!!!
This is an amazing video and I loved everything Amanda said! I am highly analytical, logical, and skeptical- it’s difficult for me to let go of the control because I think I have always thought of every outcome but I have learned to listen to others and the value they bring to situations.
The great strength of sci-fi and fantasy is taking real world conflicts and abstracting them so they can be examined from a different perspective. Humans and Vulcans independently figured out how to overcome intraplanetary conflicts and go to space, but neither would have successfully created the Federation on their own.
This was so cool!! I've always loved Star Trek and especially the Kelvin Timeline, so of course I expected that I would enjoy this. What I didn't expect was to realize that when Amanda talked about Spock being punished for his emotions and Kirk hating himself for his lack of rationale that this directly parallels my relationship with my (older) sister! She was always the critical thinker---give her any opportunity and you can see on her face the on-the-fly calculation of "Is this worth the risk?" Whereas I have always been a very thrill-seeking, spontaneous, more emotionally driven person. I always hated that I wasn't as naturally composed as her, and struggle a lot with comparison between us, considering myself to be her exact opposite. But when I told other people about this, they never saw it that way, saying they thought we were very similar and didn't consider me "irrational" at all. It was so crazy to think that the perceived differences might actually be similarities, just in a different environment. Wonderful stuff as usual!
P.S. have you ever considered doing something about a self-defeating personality type? I don't know any good movies that reflect that, but it would definitely be an interesting watch. Live long and prosper! 🖖
I LOVE 2009 star trek. It is my comfort, feel good movie. I watch it every once in a while.
[Furiously scanning Amanda Gorman's bookshelf for my next read.]
LOTR is there.
@@KristineMaitland Knew I liked her.
I do that too!
When I saw the title I screamed in joy. I love this movie so much and Amanda is the perfect guest and such an inspiration. Thank you!
That analysis at the end about Kirk and Spock's dynamic is going in my notes for how to write a good romance story.
As a writer and poet myself, I hope one day to achieve the recognition Amanda has.
I wish you luck ❤️
As an Aussie (not from space, sadly) I had never heard of Amanda Gorman before this. She truly impressed me. I will be looking for one of her books.
Great analysis all round this episode.
Thank you for reviewing this. I’m watching this film tonight. One of the best reboots ever!!!!!!
If Amanda doesn't have a channel/podcast, she could totally start one. She could make it all about the interpersonal relationships/conflicts between characters in all sorts of popular media. It'd be a hit, for sure.
Also, yeah, that shoulder slap sound effect was delectable.
"Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most Human." -James T. Kirk
I like Amanda the minute I see her. Her book arrangement just satisfies my soul. Mostly color coordinate and in size order 😌. And the last book on her left is in my wishlist ❤
‘Yes where’s Madea?’ 😂 I thought the same thing, if Madea was overseeing the trial it would have been even more hilarious. Tyler Perry, he is a god ❤
Yes! Somebody gotta tell them both off!
"set your phasers to stunning" holy crap if this isn't the best Star Trek inspired pick up line EVER
had me kicking my feet and giggling
Thank you for having Ms. Gorman on, what an amazing woman.
Oooh, thank you for this particular episode! All my passions brought together! I've had a life-long interest and involvement in science fiction (particularly Star Trek), movies, reading, and politics. Can Amanda Gorman, pretty please, make Cinema Therapy a trio? You all kind of worked a specific miracle for me. I've had such mixed feelings about the Kelvin timeline. The casting is absolute perfection but, even though I understand the need for a big event to create a different timeline, the destruction of Vulcan seemed too "disaster porn" for me. (Let's destroy Vulcan or Metropolis or an entire dimension or whatever so our characters can learn something.) But, the episode reminded me how perfectly the 2009 movie dramatizes the Vulcan / Star Trek premise of "infinity diversity in infinity combinations" (IDIC) as a source of strength rather than weakness. Now, I need to rewatch it. Thank you!
Please ask Amanda Gorman to be a guest again! She was amazingly insightful, in an inspiring way!
So awesome to see Amanda here, and congratulations to her for having one of her poems chosen for the Lucy mission! That's amazing!
For all the issues I have with the Abrams Trek movies, one of those issues is not the casting, they absolutely nailed it there. But I've gotta speak up for Karl Urban as Bones. His performance literally moved Leonard Nimoy to tears because of how much it reminded him of DeForest Kelley, so mad props to Karl.
Could you guys do an episode on the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and Bones? They've always been one of the best examples of balance in friendship and in a command structure portrayed, even when Bones and Spock (mainly Bones) bicker like an old married couple.
This is such a treat! I'm unabashedly a Trekkie. I have always been fascinated with the dynamics between the different Captains and First Officers.
The way that Picard is the only captain Riker has respect for and why, and the way Chakotay stands solidly behind Janeway despite his superior knowledge as a wartime captain.
The way Sisko deals with his various first officers in Deep Space Nine.
Please do therapy on that. If there are a group of people that need it, it would be them.❤❤❤ 😂😂
EXECPTIONAL EPISODE !!!
So Sharp, Dynamic and Wonderfully Quick and Intelligent !!!
Absolutely Wonderful Ping Pong Communication !!!
- I LOVE THIS BRIGHT LADY !!! Please bring her on the show again !!!
Thank You !!!
Every time Amanda comes in with the most astute character analysis ever my jaw just slowly dropped further and further...incredible! It sounds like she's a fan; if everyone's on board please have her back as a guest, this was sooo good!
19:45 Yelchin was also a high point of Terminator: Salvation. A wickedly talented actor taken from us too soon.
Such an avoidable death. So sad.
I legit got mad when I heard how he died. He was a fantastic actor. I wanted to see more of his work. But now, because of a stupid car, that's it. There ain't a price tag big enough for the loss of that man.
Speaking as an Australian fan, it feels like the moons of Jupiter here sometimes. What an amazing special guest! I'd love to serve on a ship with Jono, Alan and Amanda as command crew. The adventures we'd have...
LETS GO! I love the Kevin Star Trek it’s what got me into Star Trek and I love Chris’s take on Jim because I thought his settle character development throughout the series was really interesting and inspiring to watch.
Okay but that bright red on her is just *chefs kiss*
THERE IS SO MUCH I LOVE IN THIS EPISODE. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I absolutely LOVE Amanda’s nerdiness about Star Trek and stellar commentary. Please have her back!
So I clicked on this to soothe my wrecked heart after watching your clip on Grave of the Fireflies, and did not expect to see Amanda on here! Dressed as Uhura!! What!!! Wow I would watch the Amanda Show. Especially geeking out over ST and shipping the greatest ship of all time. I loved that you all wore the appropriate uniform colours!!
The amount of fanpersoning here is just so wholesome ❤
Wow. Ms Gorman is so brilliant. I could listen to her all day. Wow.. Best episode yet.
Note to the Editor: It was a *very* funny bit and i hope you feel better soon. It was also the first thought ny that popped into my head when i heard "The Amanda Show".
I am blown away by her wisdom. Just... Wow. There were a few times that I had to pause the video just to process the deep psychological punch of her words. I've personally never heard these facets of people and of humanity presented in words in such a perfect way. She is absolutely deserving of her accolaids.
And her work went to space! I am jealous.
Amanda has been one of your best guests!! Pls invite her again! She's absolutely brilliant!!!