The problem with culturing is you need many of them due to their tendency to crash. I've used aquariums in the past but even though I have lots, I don't want to use many of them for this purpose.
what's your thoughts on a food web, a natural food source in an aquarium that builds up over time and eventually you don't have to add anything for very long periods of time, like it would sustain itself for a year? FF teaches this but they don't really get very specific on how to accomplish it, how long it takes and how to do it safely. If I add leaf litter from a pond where I live, what I'm likely to get is stuff I don't want and only that. Would your method of culturing via dirt and leaves from my back yard yield better results for this, instead of a water source where fish live? Thanks!
The problem with setting up a tank that sustains itself, is that it takes a great deal of knowledge and patience. I have a number of living "critters" in all of my tanks, but they are there as a treat and not to completely eliminate the addition of food. If I were to eliminate feeding, the population of fish that I would be able to keep in each tank would be greatly reduced. I'm planning one or two more videos on this topic and I will try and cover in detail what is needed and because of this the limitations as far as fish population would be. Thanks for watching!
@@FishmanEricRussell I've seen claims of 100+ fish in some old dirted tanks but maybe they treat these a little different regarding feeding and aren't as up front about it, FF has one I think was only 30 gallons. I would probably not ever have near that many fish but it's what made me wonder how there could possibly be enough food to sustain that kind of population. Thanks for your reply and knowledge
No idea. I had to buy a bail. There are lots of alternatives. One I've heard about, but haven't tried yet, is dehydrated turnip. Any plant material should work. It's mostly about smell control.
Stink-methods could maybe be easy to turn into non-stink as well, especially if the keeper has a spare airline over. Adding air to the upper part of a yar should make it aerobic and non-stink, right?
I've tried that in the past and I am trying it again now. My experience so far is a much lower production rate. You're right though in that it eliminates the stink in all but the most overloaded containers
@@FishmanEricRussell That could maybe be mitigated by having a simple horizontal fabric membrane or something else that hamper the circulation from turning over the whole jar to easy?
@@alt-swe5503 Without the turnover there would still be anaerobic areas and smell. I will give your suggestion a try. I want to explore this whole concept more anyway. Thanks for the idea and for taking the time to contribute. Much appreciated
@@FishmanEricRussell I think the bad smell would be reduced big time by an aerobic top layer while minimizing the turnover. I've seen a similar setup in anaerobic digesters for biogas production where it served the purpose of reducing hydrogen sulfide. It is probably the same thing that stinks in the cultures as well. Harvest would of course have a certain fragrance to it. If worth the effort that could be done with a turkey baster well under the surface straight into well oxygenated water. My guess is that it would work quite well.
@@FishmanEricRussell He has very similar coloring and a look of my Max he sadly passed a little while ago. He was built like a brick boss of the street dogs even crossed the road to avoid him. He completely changed when he came inside all sweet and innocent.
Sweet! I've been waiting for this!
So glad you liked it!
Thank you, Eric! This was very informative and easy to follow.
I am pretty sure we need more video that includes your little helper 🤗 So cute!
If he has anything to do with it, he will be in as much as possible. Thanks for coming by!
@@FishmanEricRussell 🤣🐈
Cool ! Didn't know it was that easy. Thanx !
Not difficult at all. There are some finer details coming in the second video, but this is the basics
I was as curious as your cat - thank you!
Cool! Thanks for watching!
Very cool, I have tried culturing infasoria recently with mixed results. I definitely will have to try this next.
Hey Patty! It works and is pretty easy; just be careful with the addition of the hay and leaves. If you add too much it will stink
@@FishmanEricRussell ok sounds good, I usually cover mine with paper towel to stop the stink 😁
You have so many aquariums! What you do in a jar - you can do on an aquarium scale!
The problem with culturing is you need many of them due to their tendency to crash. I've used aquariums in the past but even though I have lots, I don't want to use many of them for this purpose.
That time between hatching and BBS is one of the hardest parts of raising fry in my opinion.
So true my friend!
Yes! 👀🍿
So glad you liked it!
what's your thoughts on a food web, a natural food source in an aquarium that builds up over time and eventually you don't have to add anything for very long periods of time, like it would sustain itself for a year? FF teaches this but they don't really get very specific on how to accomplish it, how long it takes and how to do it safely. If I add leaf litter from a pond where I live, what I'm likely to get is stuff I don't want and only that. Would your method of culturing via dirt and leaves from my back yard yield better results for this, instead of a water source where fish live?
Thanks!
The problem with setting up a tank that sustains itself, is that it takes a great deal of knowledge and patience. I have a number of living "critters" in all of my tanks, but they are there as a treat and not to completely eliminate the addition of food. If I were to eliminate feeding, the population of fish that I would be able to keep in each tank would be greatly reduced. I'm planning one or two more videos on this topic and I will try and cover in detail what is needed and because of this the limitations as far as fish population would be. Thanks for watching!
@@FishmanEricRussell I've seen claims of 100+ fish in some old dirted tanks but maybe they treat these a little different regarding feeding and aren't as up front about it, FF has one I think was only 30 gallons. I would probably not ever have near that many fish but it's what made me wonder how there could possibly be enough food to sustain that kind of population. Thanks for your reply and knowledge
Where can one get a small amount of straw? Do you have a suggestion for other materials if I do not have access to straw?
No idea. I had to buy a bail. There are lots of alternatives. One I've heard about, but haven't tried yet, is dehydrated turnip. Any plant material should work. It's mostly about smell control.
Stink-methods could maybe be easy to turn into non-stink as well, especially if the keeper has a spare airline over.
Adding air to the upper part of a yar should make it aerobic and non-stink, right?
I've tried that in the past and I am trying it again now. My experience so far is a much lower production rate. You're right though in that it eliminates the stink in all but the most overloaded containers
@@FishmanEricRussell That could maybe be mitigated by having a simple horizontal fabric membrane or something else that hamper the circulation from turning over the whole jar to easy?
@@alt-swe5503 Without the turnover there would still be anaerobic areas and smell. I will give your suggestion a try. I want to explore this whole concept more anyway. Thanks for the idea and for taking the time to contribute. Much appreciated
@@FishmanEricRussell I think the bad smell would be reduced big time by an aerobic top layer while minimizing the turnover. I've seen a similar setup in anaerobic digesters for biogas production where it served the purpose of reducing hydrogen sulfide. It is probably the same thing that stinks in the cultures as well.
Harvest would of course have a certain fragrance to it. If worth the effort that could be done with a turkey baster well under the surface straight into well oxygenated water. My guess is that it would work quite well.
@@alt-swe5503 It is certainly worth the try. Thanks again for taking the time to make these suggestions
Is your helper a new member of your family.
We've had him for almost a year now. Got to love the curiosity of cats
@@FishmanEricRussell He has very similar coloring and a look of my Max he sadly passed a little while ago. He was built like a brick boss of the street dogs even crossed the road to avoid him. He completely changed when he came inside all sweet and innocent.
Thanks, Fish man. It’s definitely good to have something easy on the nose.🦠🦠👃👃😀😀👍👍
Makes family life easier lol!
Hi Fishman. Great tutorial!
Thanks ever so much for coming by!