Hello Chris, I really enjoy your lessons. Been watching for some time now. I took and old club and glued a golf ball to the face for this exact drill. It is a great visual. It did it a few years ago. I will still use it for a reminder. You can see the ball and face through the swing.
Hi Chris, I never used to have a cupped wrist at setup until you advocated this in one of your videos and doing this made my game go downhill. I changed back to a flattish wrist and my game improved I wish you guys would make your minds up as it hurts a lot of golfers following and trusting you.
Hey Bob, can’t recall ever eating that a lot of cup in the wrist at set is good, there should always be some present at set up but too much can be hard to recover from. Do you happen to recall the context of when I said more cup is better?
@@ChrisRyanGolf Hi Chris in your hand position at set up video at 2.05 you call it quite a bit of extension. If i misunderstood I apologise but your wrist does look cupped to me.
@@BobskyB07 hey Bob, that may just be me not explaining this too well, there will always be quite a bit of extension in the wrist at set up, typical would be around 20 degrees. In this vidoe you can see that when I push my hands forwards I get to around 20, that’s still quite a bit, but I wouldn’t advice having the hands way back in line with the ball as that can see it move up towards 40 if not more So there will almost be a fair bit of cup in the wrist but we should never really search for more of it, sorry if I didn’t explain that too well across those two vidoes
@@ChrisRyanGolf Hi Chris, thanks for taking the time to explain, it was probably me taking it too literally as well. Keep up the good work as a lot of your videos have helped my game.
Awesome lesson, thank you Chris and something I can definitely do with on course! Just off subject, but I currently use a G400 Ping and love it… that was… until I used a golf chums QI10 Max and put the same ball 20mtrs past my well hit G400! What a driver! I’m in the market for sure now!
Chris, it also seems to be that the right arm affects the left wrist in a considerable way. If I position my right arm into a blood draw position at setup (with my right elbow pointed more at my belly), it's far easier to flatten my left wrist. Alternatively, if externally rotate my right arm, and point my elbow incorrectly more away from me and along my target line, it's almost impossible to flatten one's left wrist. Fair observation?
Chris - in the context of wrist positions, what would be your generic advice to me a 5 hcp who can, at will, either flip and add loft with a stronger grip thereby achieving enough height and spin but variable contact, or alternatively, turn the face down and get better strike and distance but with way too low a ball flight, especially with lower lofted clubs? Is it a case of picking one/ getting faster with a turned-down face/ have a balance of both with more neutral grip or by initially turning-down the face but then feeling wrist extension earlier? I'm talking ideal here for long-term improvement rather than for my swing currently.
You can achieve this with both a strong and weak grip, the key would be that the wrist has to change from set up to delivery, if you can do that with a weak or strong grip then no issues, just often easier with a neutral grip
I'm unsure whether I am interpreting your video correctly . Are you implying some reverse psychology in action here where a bowed lead wrist will cause the clubface to open to the ball-target line from around P6 -P7 ? Where the golfer is subconsciously aware that the clubface is going to be open approaching impact and will therefore strive to pivot through without stalling (and therefore assist in the clubface being square just 'before/at/through' impact? Isn't that a very speculative theory?
Yes sort of, but I’m more advocating that a neutral wrist and face will allow other good movements to happen whereas a poor clubface will promote more poor moves So ideally, neutral face and then you will Be encouraged to move better through the ball
There will be, and there should be, but with the face a little more down it just means you will be able to deliver the handle forwards and create a stronger impact
There is also a great bracket you can fit onto your golf bag in these situations it’s called iRange. It’s high quality. I saw Iona Stephen using it. It’s about 9” long. Attaches to your phone if you have a small metal plate on the back. Very versatile. Will take GoPro etc as well. Weight is no problem. (I’m a user and non associated with them. Just delighted).
Yes hit you can only have a good release if the face is close to neutral, that was the premise of this vidoe, club face influences release and release influences the body
I love this because 1. It’s viable data 2. You could literally do massive clinics with this tool and charge less for each person. Which is really what golf needs. Imagine if I could go to a clinic and wear this for a 10 minute lesson for the price of a steak dinner or something.
Hello Chris, I really enjoy your lessons. Been watching for some time now.
I took and old club and glued a golf ball to the face for this exact drill. It is a great visual. It did it a few years ago. I will still use it for a reminder. You can see the ball and face through the swing.
Great tip! This one works great for me. Thank you Chris!
Hi Chris, I never used to have a cupped wrist at setup until you advocated this in one of your videos and doing this made my game go downhill. I changed back to a flattish wrist and my game improved I wish you guys would make your minds up as it hurts a lot of golfers following and trusting you.
Hey Bob, can’t recall ever eating that a lot of cup in the wrist at set is good, there should always be some present at set up but too much can be hard to recover from. Do you happen to recall the context of when I said more cup is better?
@@ChrisRyanGolf Hi Chris in your hand position at set up video at 2.05 you call it quite a bit of extension. If i misunderstood I apologise but your wrist does look cupped to me.
@@BobskyB07 hey Bob, that may just be me not explaining this too well, there will always be quite a bit of extension in the wrist at set up, typical would be around 20 degrees. In this vidoe you can see that when I push my hands forwards I get to around 20, that’s still quite a bit, but I wouldn’t advice having the hands way back in line with the ball as that can see it move up towards 40 if not more
So there will almost be a fair bit of cup in the wrist but we should never really search for more of it, sorry if I didn’t explain that too well across those two vidoes
@@ChrisRyanGolf Hi Chris, thanks for taking the time to explain, it was probably me taking it too literally as well. Keep up the good work as a lot of your videos have helped my game.
This guy's awesome!
Awesome lesson, thank you Chris and something I can definitely do with on course! Just off subject, but I currently use a G400 Ping and love it… that was… until I used a golf chums QI10 Max and put the same ball 20mtrs past my well hit G400! What a driver! I’m in the market for sure now!
Do it! Love my MAX I’ve got so much more confidence from the tee than I used to have, great club
This video has convinced me to purchase a Hack Motion! Great video, Chris.
Awesome! You won’t regret it 🙌
Great video - thanks . Same feel with face for driver ?
Chris, it also seems to be that the right arm affects the left wrist in a considerable way. If I position my right arm into a blood draw position at setup (with my right elbow pointed more at my belly), it's far easier to flatten my left wrist. Alternatively, if externally rotate my right arm, and point my elbow incorrectly more away from me and along my target line, it's almost impossible to flatten one's left wrist. Fair observation?
Absolutely, both are on the club so one will influence the other as you say
Very smart video. When do you start to rotate the wrist?
Would this also apply to a 3-wood, or even a driver?
Absolutely yep
Chris - in the context of wrist positions, what would be your generic advice to me a 5 hcp who can, at will, either flip and add loft with a stronger grip thereby achieving enough height and spin but variable contact, or alternatively, turn the face down and get better strike and distance but with way too low a ball flight, especially with lower lofted clubs? Is it a case of picking one/ getting faster with a turned-down face/ have a balance of both with more neutral grip or by initially turning-down the face but then feeling wrist extension earlier? I'm talking ideal here for long-term improvement rather than for my swing currently.
Hi Chris, great video. How useful do you think a HackMotion would be to a golfer for practice at home?
Extremely useful, the new interface is really simple to use, but the key is that it give you info that you just can’t get from video or the naked eye
Chris, getting great results from down first then rotate body on iron swings! Really struggling with driver swing though 😢. Please help
Chris, could we achieve a similar result using a weaker grip?
You can achieve this with both a strong and weak grip, the key would be that the wrist has to change from set up to delivery, if you can do that with a weak or strong grip then no issues, just often easier with a neutral grip
I'm unsure whether I am interpreting your video correctly . Are you implying some reverse psychology in action here where a bowed lead wrist will cause the clubface to open to the ball-target line from around P6 -P7 ? Where the golfer is subconsciously aware that the clubface is going to be open approaching impact and will therefore strive to pivot through without stalling (and therefore assist in the clubface being square just 'before/at/through' impact? Isn't that a very speculative theory?
Yes sort of, but I’m more advocating that a neutral wrist and face will allow other good movements to happen whereas a poor clubface will promote more poor moves
So ideally, neutral face and then you will
Be encouraged to move better through the ball
So is there no forearm rotation on the downswing when you get the knuckles down? Something i've always been confused about.
There will be, and there should be, but with the face a little more down it just means you will be able to deliver the handle forwards and create a stronger impact
@ChrisRyanGolf Sorry for the off-topic question, but what brand is that mobile phone holder/ stand ?
It does fall over in light wind 😂
It’s actually just from Amazon, not sure if the brand I’m afraid
There is also a great bracket you can fit onto your golf bag in these situations it’s called iRange. It’s high quality. I saw Iona Stephen using it. It’s about 9” long. Attaches to your phone if you have a small metal plate on the back. Very versatile. Will take GoPro etc as well. Weight is no problem. (I’m a user and non associated with them. Just delighted).
@@davidthegolfer Thx M8, Will look for a iRange then
You can also be encouraged to use your body if you focus on a good release at the golf ball. More power too.
Yes hit you can only have a good release if the face is close to neutral, that was the premise of this vidoe, club face influences release and release influences the body
I love this because 1. It’s viable data 2. You could literally do massive clinics with this tool and charge less for each person. Which is really what golf needs. Imagine if I could go to a clinic and wear this for a 10 minute lesson for the price of a steak dinner or something.
Hi Chris when are u doing a Spanish trip with a group again .
Most likely next April Gerry
They looking in the wrong places such as youtube instructors lol
This flex feels quite uncomfortable. Why can‘t I just take a stronger grip with the left Hand
That is exactly what to do....all the rest is bullshit.
Old golf new golf whatever...Tell this crap to Bubba and Fred and alot of golfers that flick the hands at impact
Both bubba and Fred had great impact positions and wrist conditions so this wouldn’t really apply to them