Thanks so much for these videos. These not only help Police Officers, but also some of us undertrained Correction Officers as well! Very, VERY, much appreciated.
One of my son's is a corrections officer. My other sons compete in martial arts. My martial artist son got out of the last hold even with his other hand on his head and instantly took down the person holding his arm and wrist. Practicing your techniques with martial artists might be a good idea.
Excellent stuff. The only issue I have with the rear twist lock is that even though his other hand can't punch you, he could certainly use it to stab you anywhere along the back of your left side, the left side of your face, back of your head, left arm, even the left side of your gut under your arms. I suggest shoulders locks.
i was a state wrestler and now do armed security, i found myself hip tossing people with the hip my firearm is on which was sooo fucking dumb but thank you so much for the rear arm lock. very helpful
Te first technique needs a lot of practice and then it's effective (This is true for almost everything in the , I know). As far as I know this would never be intended as a final move, only to stop and then finalize the opponent. I was once attacked in a bus stop and I heard the guy's wrist pop because he wasn't giving up trying to hit me. Also, body posture and response was essential in this case because of the free other hand/arm.
That first "control hold" was a cool version of that wristlock thats simple enough to learn for most people, i think it can be enhanced by "cupping" the back of the elbow with the free hand, locking out the elbow (making a "C" shape with the thumb and first two fingers - sometimes known as the finger of the law and the finger of the judge, you know the one, just a cool extra piece of info) and driving him down head first. Never let his head be above yours, and watch his hips to know how he plans to move. Im just a decent fighter/martial artist. I have a friend/teacher who is a Ju-Jutsu/Judo blackbelt trained in Hayastan and other arts. He is also retired NYPD and a 9/11 survivor. He teaches classes like this, knowing that ground fighting is ok but in a Police Officer's situation, it is not something you should do unless you have to. His style is perfect for this application. I can give his contact info if interested. I am a strong believer in well trained, confident, cops using non-lethal techniques is something we as a community should all support.
For the rear wrist lock your leading left leg should not be in front of your subject. My sugguestion would be for your leading left leg to be in the rear of his left leg giving you that much more control of things start to go south. Your left leg being behind his will ensure that not only do you have a more effective wrist lock and control but if the subject does react, he is immediately at a loss of balance and you can take him down without much effort at all. That is the way i was trained. Dont leave gaps. Close distance when applying these techniques. The tighter you are to your subject, the more effective you will be as an officer when exerting your force when the time comes. The less of a gap, you leave your subject, the less chance of injury.
Great video but one thing I noticed. The correct term is not hyper fold. It is hyper extension or hyper flexion. Depending on which way the wrist is moving.
The twist lock....(center lock in hapkido) or any lock your elbow need to be close to your body for proper leverage. Once there is space it's muscle vs muscle. Never have space with joint locks
Very simple to escape... Lower your center of gravity and push your weight towards the individual while turning towards them. If you place your knee in the inside of their knee you can perform a reverse takedown
please look up sankyo.... if you want to apply sankyo you need to really twist into the person and spiral it upwards. his elbow should be pointed up. and as you spiral that really should torque the entire shoulder wrist and elbow and whole side of the body....
Blocking traffic is stupid. Agree. Uncalled-for malice, violence, and harm perpetrated by police goes waaaay beyond stupid. There was a right way to have done this. Cartman chose the wrong way. The protestors were prepared to be arrested. Not hurt or killed. The speed at which the officer plowed barricade with protesters nearby (risking bodily harm), then drew his gun on peaceful protestors, and then applied a wrist-lock control hold to one woman (while "We are not violent" was repeated in background), demonstrated a level of hate and lack of emotional control that should disqualify him from continuing any job in law enforcement. We should not entirely blame the officer, though. When we all ignore the human element in a conflict while viewing our adversary as non-human and deserving of harm/death, we become capable of all sorts of evil. The Nazi party famously had Goebbels to promote this. The US military famously had psychologists. Our society, on the other hand, has conservative and social media. Commenters cheer on as they see such violence. Rather than reflect on their own words and feel ashamed at themselves, both commenters and like-minded readers find themselves in an echo chamber with similarly-minded chimpanzees. The noise in the monkey house gets louder. More bones are lifted. More pain. More suffering. And all this time the point of the protests are forgotten. The protests against fossil fuel. The protests against improper forms of protest. Lawmaker-politicians sit idle regarding both, while collecting our tax dollars and pursuing interest of their own power and purses. The fact remains, though: Law enforcement has to stay above emotions such as hate. Not above the law, itself. Protect and serve the people, first. Not the flow of traffic with disregard. It is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. In that order. Our laws were constructed to guarantee these rights. These rights were suggested by Jefferson's Enlightenment-informed ideals. Those ideals were built atop a societal foundation of Christian love and compassion. We've taken that foundation of Christian love and compassion away. The structure has begun to topple. Hate is winning. We even (again) have a presidential candidate who embraces it. Encourages it. Hate sells, and we are buying. Make a choice to reject hate. To love your enemy. To engage in dialog instead of violence. To try to understand the viewpoint of your fellow human being. To help guide them. That is, if you truly know better. Consider their point, also, and question you own beliefs. Consider changing your heart. God save our great country.
You really need to cover the reality of this lock . You do not want them to go down or it's easier to escape and you want to keep your elbow as close to your hip as possible so he can't relieve pressure by escaping his elbow. And you want to keep his free arm away from his locked arm or he can actually reverse the lock on you... it's not as effective as people think
Thanks so much for these videos. These not only help Police Officers, but also some of us undertrained Correction Officers as well! Very, VERY, much appreciated.
I have no idea how I ran across this video but... Keep doing what your skilled at and enjoy bro. I'm gonna search more knitting tutorials now.
I saw this video years ago and nobody has ever broken this lock on me. This stuff is so under appreciated)
One of my son's is a corrections officer. My other sons compete in martial arts. My martial artist son got out of the last hold even with his other hand on his head and instantly took down the person holding his arm and wrist. Practicing your techniques with martial artists might be a good idea.
So glad for these videos- i had training two days ago and been practicing since
Thanks for the refresher.
Excellent stuff. The only issue I have with the rear twist lock is that even though his other hand can't punch you, he could certainly use it to stab you anywhere along the back of your left side, the left side of your face, back of your head, left arm, even the left side of your gut under your arms. I suggest shoulders locks.
i was a state wrestler and now do armed security, i found myself hip tossing people with the hip my firearm is on which was sooo fucking dumb but thank you so much for the rear arm lock. very helpful
Te first technique needs a lot of practice and then it's effective (This is true for almost everything in the , I know).
As far as I know this would never be intended as a final move, only to stop and then finalize the opponent.
I was once attacked in a bus stop and I heard the guy's wrist pop because he wasn't giving up trying to hit me.
Also, body posture and response was essential in this case because of the free other hand/arm.
That first "control hold" was a cool version of that wristlock thats simple enough to learn for most people, i think it can be enhanced by "cupping" the back of the elbow with the free hand, locking out the elbow (making a "C" shape with the thumb and first two fingers - sometimes known as the finger of the law and the finger of the judge, you know the one, just a cool extra piece of info) and driving him down head first. Never let his head be above yours, and watch his hips to know how he plans to move. Im just a decent fighter/martial artist. I have a friend/teacher who is a Ju-Jutsu/Judo blackbelt trained in Hayastan and other arts. He is also retired NYPD and a 9/11 survivor. He teaches classes like this, knowing that ground fighting is ok but in a Police Officer's situation, it is not something you should do unless you have to. His style is perfect for this application. I can give his contact info if interested. I am a strong believer in well trained, confident, cops using non-lethal techniques is something we as a community should all support.
For the rear wrist lock your leading left leg should not be in front of your subject. My sugguestion would be for your leading left leg to be in the rear of his left leg giving you that much more control of things start to go south. Your left leg being behind his will ensure that not only do you have a more effective wrist lock and control but if the subject does react, he is immediately at a loss of balance and you can take him down without much effort at all.
That is the way i was trained. Dont leave gaps. Close distance when applying these techniques. The tighter you are to your subject, the more effective you will be as an officer when exerting your force when the time comes. The less of a gap, you leave your subject, the less chance of injury.
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Great video but one thing I noticed. The correct term is not hyper fold. It is hyper extension or hyper flexion. Depending on which way the wrist is moving.
You need to know that both of these can be VERY EASILY countered.
When studying wristlocks, you MUST study the counter of that wristlock as well!!
The twist lock....(center lock in hapkido) or any lock your elbow need to be close to your body for proper leverage. Once there is space it's muscle vs muscle. Never have space with joint locks
You're not a fan of the twistlock because you're doing it wrong...
Very simple to escape... Lower your center of gravity and push your weight towards the individual while turning towards them.
If you place your knee in the inside of their knee you can perform a reverse takedown
he could move his lower body and get out. You also have your feet in front of him which means if there's a struggle he falls on you.
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I've actually done the First Lock in Japanese Jiu Jitsu.
my friend just did this to me today
What if the guy turns his right side into you for a take down?
Never had a moving or non-moving resistor willingly give up his hand lol
they are explaining how to do the technique and not how to to set it all up don't be so dumb
In the Twist Lock if you raise the elbow higher, isn't that what is called "3rd position"?
If your in a correct reverse come along wrist lock you dont wanna move any part of your body except to walk it is extremely painful
please look up sankyo.... if you want to apply sankyo you need to really twist into the person and spiral it upwards. his elbow should be pointed up. and as you spiral that really should torque the entire shoulder wrist and elbow and whole side of the body....
My dt instructo was so angry with me the entire time cause pressure points and hand locks didn't do shit but annoy me or in one case make me laugh.
Groin and head is exposed to the knee and a head butt.
2:52 is not a good move because if you have a taser or baton, it will be expose to the bad guy..
i got pain non compliance training at the peace officer academy, but in reality few officers use those tactics on tbe streets when arresting a perp.😑
PO/CO's all need to practice train in reality based combatives, e.g. MMA BJJ or JUDO. Learn a body lock to take down to mount/side mount to kimura.
Dont want your hand in his he can grab your hand and manipulate you Missouri department of corrections does a great job on showing reverse come along
Wow! Who's gonna let him twist his arm without resistance? It's not so simple!
SECOND TECHNIQUE WILL NOT WORK WITH KNIFE -SANKIYO DONE CORRECTLY IS THE ONE TO USE
AIKIDO BASED TECHNIQUE - RAISE HIS ARM OVER HIS HEAD AND HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE. IT IS CALLED SANKIO.
Akkcva loe
Blocking traffic is stupid. Agree. Uncalled-for malice, violence, and harm perpetrated by police goes waaaay beyond stupid.
There was a right way to have done this. Cartman chose the wrong way.
The protestors were prepared to be arrested. Not hurt or killed. The speed at which the officer plowed barricade with protesters nearby (risking bodily harm), then drew his gun on peaceful protestors, and then applied a wrist-lock control hold to one woman (while "We are not violent" was repeated in background), demonstrated a level of hate and lack of emotional control that should disqualify him from continuing any job in law enforcement.
We should not entirely blame the officer, though. When we all ignore the human element in a conflict while viewing our adversary as non-human and deserving of harm/death, we become capable of all sorts of evil. The Nazi party famously had Goebbels to promote this. The US military famously had psychologists.
Our society, on the other hand, has conservative and social media. Commenters cheer on as they see such violence. Rather than reflect on their own words and feel ashamed at themselves, both commenters and like-minded readers find themselves in an echo chamber with similarly-minded chimpanzees. The noise in the monkey house gets louder. More bones are lifted. More pain. More suffering.
And all this time the point of the protests are forgotten. The protests against fossil fuel. The protests against improper forms of protest. Lawmaker-politicians sit idle regarding both, while collecting our tax dollars and pursuing interest of their own power and purses.
The fact remains, though: Law enforcement has to stay above emotions such as hate. Not above the law, itself. Protect and serve the people, first. Not the flow of traffic with disregard.
It is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. In that order.
Our laws were constructed to guarantee these rights. These rights were suggested by Jefferson's Enlightenment-informed ideals. Those ideals were built atop a societal foundation of Christian love and compassion.
We've taken that foundation of Christian love and compassion away. The structure has begun to topple.
Hate is winning. We even (again) have a presidential candidate who embraces it. Encourages it. Hate sells, and we are buying.
Make a choice to reject hate. To love your enemy. To engage in dialog instead of violence. To try to understand the viewpoint of your fellow human being. To help guide them. That is, if you truly know better. Consider their point, also, and question you own beliefs. Consider changing your heart.
God save our great country.
You really need to cover the reality of this lock . You do not want them to go down or it's easier to escape and you want to keep your elbow as close to your hip as possible so he can't relieve pressure by escaping his elbow. And you want to keep his free arm away from his locked arm or he can actually reverse the lock on you... it's not as effective as people think
isn't that exposing your tools to his other hand?
THAT IS NOT AN ARMBAR
YOU SAY HE CANT ESCAPE...??? A KNEE STRAIGHT INTO AN UNPROTECTED GROIN SAYS HE CAN..................
smells of bacon around here 🐷
Surprised you could smell it over your meth...
This shit is funny.
just saying that no pig will ever pull this in the real life, please keep doing this kind of crap
classic training inbreeding TTP
bullshido
This is stupid, he could also get a knife out of his right pocket with his completly free right hand and, well you know.